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Saturday, December 28, 2013

EXOGEN UPDATE: COMPLETE OVERVIEW OF BONDS, 28 DEC

Stage2Omega:
THE BOND QUESTION ANSWERED FOR DINARLAND

COMPLETE OVERVIEW OF BONDS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_%28finance%29

NOTE: A COUNTRY/GOVERNMENT CAN NOT SELL/TRADE BONDS ON THE  OPEN MARKET WITHOUT AN INTERNATIONALLY TRADEABLE CURRENCY-HINT HINT!!

CAL POST FROM TNT CHAT, 28 DEC

CAL: treat this as Rumor, but the guy who got me involved in the dinar 3.5 years ago, was involved 1.5 years before me. He knows of the Admiral's Group. I do not know if it is the same as who Tony talks about in the past. Non the less, he just told me the Admiral's group today cashed out with the Chinese and should be hitting their accounts very soon. That is all I was told! No more detail than that! I pray that this is true!!! Come on RV!

CAL: UPDATE: No SKR, will receive Cash! RV should be triggered not long after that!?! My friend does not know the Admiral, but someone in the group. Again, though I trust my friend, you know how hear say is, please take as rumor! I am encouraged for my friend trust his!!

Lady Mary: Cal, what is SKR?

GoldMiner: SKR= Safe Keeping Receipt

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 28 DEC

12-28-2013   Intel Guru Arizona Heat   [the PTB could release this anytime? Does it have to dependent on any of these events? Could they not release it now?]   YES YES YES. THEY COULD POP THIS AT ANY MINUTE OF ANY DAY.  THE IMF HAS THE POWER TO RELEASE ANY RATE ON ANY GIVEN DAY, THEY HAVE THE POWER TO RELEASE IRAQS RATE AS IRAQ IS IN DEBT TO THE IMF, WHEN IRAQ TOOK LOANS FROM THE IMF, THEY GAVE UP CERTAIN RIGHT OVER THEIR CURRENCY...THE RELEASE OF THEIR RATE IS ONE OF THEM.   [post 3 of 3]

12-28-2013   Intel Guru Arizona Heat
   DONT LOOK AT ONE INDIVIDUAL ARTICLE AND HANG THE RELEASE OF THE RV ON THAT. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.   REMEMBER WHY WOULD THEY GIVE ANY INCLINATION OF WHEN THE RELEASE WOULD BE, IF THEY DID, THERE WOULD BE A RUN ON THIER CURRENCY AND ALL HELL WOULD BREAK LOSE.   [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

12-28-2013   Intel Guru Arizona Heat
   JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT: THE US GOVERNMENT HAS PROVIDED DRONES AND HELL FIRE MISSLES TO IRAQ TO CURB THE VIOLENCE THERE, PLUS F18'S.   DO ANY OF YOU THINK THAT WE WOULD GO TO THESE MEASURES IF THERE WAS NOT SOMETHING IN IT FOR THE US? THEN THE ARTICLE ABOUT BONDS BEING PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE OF VIOLENCE. HMMMMM, THINK ABOUT IT. THEY NEED PROTECTION, WE NEED OIL CREDITS.   [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

12-28-2013   Newshound Guru Millionday
   Article quote:   "Iraq other in improving the payments system and the adoption of modern systems in a number of ministries after it adopted this system and has trained a number of employees on e-governance as well as the central bank began this step in order to improve the payments system."    now this is great  the expansion of economic advancement in all areas...the budget money will be sent through and is set up already by CBI -- it will all be electronic as we have here and also sent from accounts for all government electronically...all fees -- tariff--- customs -- contracts -- licenses -- etc.  this is e-governance,  huge advancement.

12-28-2013   Intel Guru WILDDUCK
  
 i like big deals that get real quiet, i said a long time ago when this gets close silence will reign.

12-28-2013   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
   1166 is not the official rate. That is the CBI rate.  Again, we know this because the IMF docs refer to the official rate, and the auctions themselves refer to the official rate as 1179. As well, this can be confirmed by the statements earlier this year when the IMF referenced the laps in monetary policy in which it went as high as 9%.This only makes sense looking back at the auctions in March - May 1179/ 1290.

TONY CC TRANSCRIBED BY MONTANA (27 DEC), PART 1, 28 DEC

GOOD MORNING TNT
DEC. 27TH
AND ITS FALLING ON A FRIDAY
NO BETTER DAY THAN TODAY
I HOPE ANYWAY
DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE CALL WILL BE
GIVE YOU THE INFO
ANSWER QUESTIONS
AND GO ALONG OUR DAY
WISH HOPE DREAM
AND I'LL GO TO THE BANK
IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE DATE/TIME
I GOT A TEXT
THAT SAYS DON'T SAY THE DATE OR TIME
KILLS ALL THE INFO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE TIME 
BUT THE MEETING WENT GOOD
YESTERDAY
MEETINGS AFTER THE MEETING
AND A NEW UNDERSTANDING AMONG EVERYONE
SOME PPL THAT DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT CL
WAS DOING WHAT SHE WAS DOING
SO THEY PUT THING OFF
JUST DIDN'T BELIEVE IT
EVERYONE HAS SKELETONS IN THE CLOSET
AND DIDN'T THINK SHE'D EXPOSE THOSE TO GET THIS DONE
ESPECIALLY FOR US
TO GET THE RATE FOR US
DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK SHE'S DOING THIS FOR US
SHE'S DOING THAT FOR THE PROGRAMS AROUND THE WORLD
AND SHE IS FIGHTING FOR US TO
BUT ….
BACK AND FORTH - BUT AT THE END THEY DID AGREE
ON THE TERMS, CONDITIONS AND TIME LINES
SUPPOSEDLY THE 32 RATE STILL SHOWING
AGREED TO HAVE SECURITY AT THE CALL CENTERS AND
THE EXCHANGE LOCATIONS
WERE TO BE THERE AT6AM AND BE READY AT ANY MOMENT
SET A DEADLINE
AND THINGS WE'VE LOOKED AT
ARE THE BONDS IN IRAQ
AND EVERYONE IS SAYING THEY ARE GOING LIVE 
TOMORROW
WITH A SELL OF BONDS TO THE PUBLIC
AND NO ONE KNOWS HOW THEY CAN DO IT
WITHOUT A PUBLIC RATE
LEGAL?
HOW TO ASSIGN A RATE? IF THERE ISN'T A MARKET RATE TO GO BY.
THESE ARE IRAQI BONDS
COUNTRY TO COUNTRY, WHO LOANS WHO
BUT THE BONDS ARE IN THE FRONT
SO ITS AN ISSUE
CAN THEY STILL DO IT TOMORROW?
THEY MIGHT, BACK ROOM, WE KNOW HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO WORK
LOTS OF THINGS HAVEN'T WORKED LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO
MORE PPL ARE IDENTIFIED
NOTIFIED THAT ARREST WARRANTS ARE PENDING
AND WILL BE DONE OVER THE WEEKEND
INVESTIGATION
RETIREMENTS - EFFECTIVE THE FIRST
PPL PLANING THEIR ESCAPE ROUTE
SOME STILL FIGHTING THE 32 RATE
HEARD CL AND DIDN'T BELIEVE HER
SHE MADE IT CLEAR SHE IS WILLING TO SACRIFICE HER CAREER TO GET IT DONE
GIVE HER KUDOS 
DOMINIQUE STRAUSS KHAN DIDN'T
THE BANK IS READY
GOT THE PPL THERE
WE DON'T HAVE THE FINAL NDA
BUT THE LATEST CHANGES TO IT
INCLUDE IN DEPTH WHO THE SPOUSE IS
SIGNIFICANT OTHERS
FRIENDS AND OTHERS
WHO YOU CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH
TRYING TO MAKE IT TIGHTER
IT INCLUDES THE NEWS MEDIA ON ALL DIFF. LEVELS NOW
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT YET
SO I CAN'T READ IT TO YOU LIKE BEFORE
ITS BEEN CHANGED 3 TIMES
AND THEY LISTEN TO THE CALLS, READ THE BOARDS
AND AS YOU MAKE SUGGESTIONS, THEY PICK THEM UP
AND CLOSE THE LOOPHOLES AS THEY GO
IF SOMEONE IS CONCERNED ABOUT SIGNING THE NDA
THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING W/ THE MONEY
OR TELLING SOMEONE THEY SHOULDN'T
IF THAT'S NOT YOUR PLAN
THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE CONCERNED AT ALL
AND IF YOU TAKE THE 3.85 OR 5.85
DON'T HAVE TO SIGN THE NDA
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DONT' WANT TO WORRY ABOUT HOMELAND FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS
THEN DO THAT
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT AREN'T US CITIZENS
DON'T KNOW
WE DISCUSSED BIRTH CERT'S AND PASSPORTS, 
DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL USE TO ASK YOU TO PROVE YOU ARE A US CITIZEN
BUT IF I WERE YOU - I'D CALL THE BANK NOW
BUT YOU CAN'T GET YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE OVER THE WEEKEND
OR A PASSPORT
IF THAT'S REQUIRED
BUT THEY ARE SAYING YOU HAVE TO HAVE PROOF TO GET THE CONTRACT RATE
IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE/PASSPORT
GO FIND IT AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SCRAMBLE AT THE LAST MIN. TO GET THIS RATE
THE BIG THING - I THINK, AND OTHER PPL
SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN TO MAKE THESE BONDS VIABLE TOMORROW
COULD BE RESCHEDULED
BUT I HEAR THERE IS A PUSH TO GET IT FINISHED
ITS THE END OF THE YEAR
IT DIDN'T WORK FOR THE ECONOMY
BUT FOR TAXES
AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT
BUT GIVES NO ONE TO MOVE MONEY AROUND
AND 28TH, 29TH, 2 DAYS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR
SO THEY'LL GET THE TAXES
IT WORKS OUT FOR THEM
THERE IS A PROVISION
& THEY KNOW --- FOR EVERYONE THAT'S CASHED OUT -- THEIR ACCOUNTS TO BE FROZEN
FOR YEARS
UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETE
AND SHE WILL ABSOLUTELY WILL
AND FILE THEM AS EARLY AS THIS EVENING
FOR THAT TO HAPPEN
EVERYTHING ELSE IS DONE GUYS
MALIKI AND BARZANI MET AND ARE WILLING TO SETTLE EVERYTHING
CAN'T TELL YOU WHY IT HAPPENED
BUT IT DID
MISSILES AND OTHER MILITARY EQUIP. DELIVERED TO IRAQ YESTERDAY
TO FIGHT TERRORISM AND OTHER REASONS
ALL IRAQ ISSUES ARE RESOLVED
IN THE MOSQUE THEY EXPLAINED THE PURPOSE OF THE MONEY
AND THE 3 ZEROS
AND THEY TOLD THEM IF WE HAVE DIFF. RATES, DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THEM
SO THEY WOULDN'T BE UPSET IF THEY DID HEAR IT
IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT IN CASE
SO TODAY CAN BE A GREAT DAY 
OR A CONFUSING DAY
I'LL GO W/ GREAT
WE HAD PPL THAT--- I'LL  PUT IT DIFF. THEN HOW IT WAS PUT TO ME
WHO HELD IT UP
AND WHO GOT PAID
THE GOOD OLE BOY NETWORK AT WORK
CERTAIN PPL GETTING THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY PAID
AND I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE KNOW
NOT ON HOW MUCH THEY HAD
BUT THE RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAD IN THE PAST OR THE FUTURE
HOW GOV. WORKS, HOW POLITICIANS WORK
BUILDING FOUNDATIONS/RELATIONSHIPS
NOT FOR THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO RETIRE
BUT FOR THE FUTURE POLITICAL PARTIES
( TONY GAVE AN EXAMPLE )
( OF FUTURE DONATIONS FOR WHO WILL BECOME GOV. SOMEDAY…ETC… )
PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE
WANT YOU TO KNOW WHATS GOING ON
OUR GOV. AND HOW IT WORKS
ITS REALITY
SO THAT WAS ONE ISSUE
AND THAT'S HOW PPL ARE FINDING OUT THAT THEY WERE CASHED OUT
NOT WHAT YOU KNOW BUT WHO YOU KNOW
THE BANKS DID SOMETHING SIMILAR
THEY WERE TRADING THE MONEY
SINCE LAST TUESDAY
AND SOME HAVE BEEN REMOVED/ARRESTED
AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS IN CHARGE
NOT ENOUGH CHIEFS AND TOO MANY INDIANS
SO ONE WOULD CALL AND SAY GET YOUR PPL READY
AND THEN ANOTHER WOULD SAY ON HOLD
THEN THE OTHER WOULD CALL AND SAY WHY DID THEY DO THAT
EVERYONE HAD THEIR OWN REASONS
AND THE BANKERS DIDN'T CARE
THE LONGER THEY HOLD IT
THE MORE MONEY THEY MAKE
OFF BOOK MONEY
THEY'RE NOT GAMBLING
HOW MUCH MORE MONEY CAN WE MAKE TILL THE REST OF THE MONEY COMES IN
NBC YESTERDAY, THE FOREX TRADERS ARRESTED
AND WHY?
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK WE'D GET CAUGHT
TOO HIGH ABOVE THE FRAY TO BE NOTICED
BUT THEY WEREN'T
AND THAT'S THE BEGINNING
THE LEVEL OF WHAT THOSE PPL ARE AT
OVERNIGHT, THINGS RESOLVED
LOOKING FOR PPL TO COME IN AT 6AM THIS MORN.
AND TO LOOK FOR THE 800#S
AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN
I'M STILL LOOKING FOR THEM
EVERYONE IS STILL IN PLACE
OTHER THAN THAT
LETS DO Q & A
DC IS NOT HERE 
I WILL TELL YOU THIS
I KNOW YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME
( LOST THE INTERNET )
( TONY IS READING A QUESTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME ---- WE ARE AT 29 MINUTES INTO THE CALL )
( HE WANTED THE 3 LETTER AGENCIES TO HEAR THE QUESTION )
( I missed approx. 5 min. of the call -- Internet is back on )
( he's discussing the Mayor and Gov. and who you are to donate ….)
SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU'LL DEF. BE INVOLVED IN
AS LONG AS YOU ARE WRITING THE CHECKS
THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE TRADERS WAS LAST YEAR
THIS YEAR ITS ABOUT GOV. OFFICIALS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN IT
THE NAMES WILL COME OUT LATER
AND HAVE SOME REASONS BEHIND IT
WANTED YOU TO HEAR HIS MESSAGE
AND NOT A WHOLE LOT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT
EXCEPT WHERE DOES IT GO FROM HERE
live 
next 956
c-the bonds
t- no one can figure out how they can do it w/ out a public RV
c- i have Zim and VNN
t- I've heard the rates are still the same, still on the boards, haven't gone up or down, no final decision till it goes live, but it should go at the same time
c- nothing else to ask, thank you, 
next

TONY CC TRANSCRIBED BY MONTANA (27 DEC), PART 2, 28 DEC

next
c- why is it important to separate the money, not to put money in an acct. w/ money in it
t- dinar is supposedly backed by the new treasury notes, and the rest is fed. notes, and the dinar can come in a new tax rate, in case the dinar has a lower tax, and if you keep it together then you'll pay the high rate, but every dinar is tracked by the UST and they are accountable for it, diff. then the Fed. Res
c- did they resolve the reserves or do we have to work it out ourselves
t- there are a couple of issues, but not getting the answers, don't tell me the plan, how can I tell them, what I asked for, whats the reserve  policy - we don't know it - not making it public till 30 min. before the call, well how does that help -- whats the policy - ID - what is the ID, and then you get there and say its the wrong thing, you want mass confusion, but trying to get the answers, a lot of things that they didn't fully think thru yet, and how to get info to the ppl after I cash out,  you want it done in 5-7 days and you want them to figure it out on their own,  don't think they followed it out till the end, if they haven't thought about it…….
t- its worse than Obamacare,  at least they are doing something and this hasn't even got started and its a big mess already
c- leads me to - they don't want us to put dinar on reserve right before they were going to do it, thats an unrealistic expectation
t- I didn't like it being an excuse, take it away, but some saved their money all the time and now at the last min. I have money and can buy some - its unrealistic, but its not my purpose for being here, there's plenty in the US to accomplish what they want to… and no one pays me if you buy dinar,  but when they say this is one of the reason, I don't have a problem saying that, but lets take it away so they can't use that as the excuse,  stop feeding us BS,  now we are at the point of … Iraq is done done done, why can't they revalue their money,  7,8 countries already done, and another guy got paid yesterday in Jordan, took him 3 min. to get cashed out, so if it works there, why doesn't it work here
t- so those excuses don't work here - the real issues are that there are a bunch of crooks as politicians, and worry about today and tomorrow and get their buddies paid
t- my own group said sh*t give me the $5 - everyone wants the 32, but I'll figure how to make it grow
c- now the crooks need good lawyers
c- thank God for CL and all that she's done, and keep her and her family in prayer, so they can prosper
TONY-- WE CAN TALK BOUT THIS
AND BE REALISTIC
MY PERSONAL OPINION
SOMEONE SENT ME A PM AND SAID THAT 2020 IS WATCHING ME
DOESN'T MEAN THEY ARE NOT
BUT WHO DOES THAT HELP
WHAT IDIOT WOULD TELL THEM TO LISTEN TO ME
BUT YESTERDAY PAM GOT A MESSAGE ---WANT TO TELL THEM
PAM - NO BABY YOU GO AHEAD
T- I FORGOT -- HOW THIS GROUP IS SENDING THINGS TO THE NEWS, SEND IT TO 20/20 AND WHAT DO I THINK ABOUT IT?
T- IF YOU SEND IT, THEY WILL INVESTIGATE, NO NO, I DON'T THINK ITS THE THING TO DO
T- TOLD PAM TO SEND THEN A MESSAGE TO DELETE THEM FROM OUR SITE
I DON'T WANT THEM TO BE A PART OF US, AND STOP IT FOR 5 MIL. OTHER PPL, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO DO AN INVESTIGATION -- I DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT ---CUT YOUR NOSE TO SPITE YOUR FACE --- DON'T GET A DIME, AFTER YOU WANT TO DO IT, ITS JUST YOU AND HOMELAND, BUT RIGHT NOW YOU ARE AFFECTING ALL OF US, AND IN THE END --- THE NEWS IS CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT -- UNLESS YOU CAN FIND A ROGUE NEWS -- YOU ARE ONLY GIVING THEM A REASON FOR THE NDA, SO THEY CAN HAVE RECOURSE….. DON'T SEE WHY YOU'D CALL THE SENATORS… THEY KNOW ABOUT IT, THEY'RE THE ONES GETTING PAID, AND YOU WANT THEM TO KNOW THERE IS GOING TO BE AN UPROAR AND THAT MAKES SENSE -- SORRY, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT AND DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF IT
next  818
c-negotiating factor here, for the rates
t- here is part of the problem, i give you more info then I should, thats not finalized and got it from a good source, 2 actually, but thats part of my thing - you need to give me the info so I can explain - not 30 min. before it goes, and I'll have more questions then they do, and you want me to explain it, so I'll know, but the answer was --they're not concerned with it -- we'll figure it out
t- saying things at this point and know they are listening to the call, fix it sooner then later
t- with one 800# the group - not the Admirals - they already turned in their dinar and paid at their rate - there is another 800# for certain groups and another one for the US to get Oil Credits and another one for China to get Oil Credits and it can change, but each one has a diff. NDA attached to it and that can change - since the NDA changed in the last 3 days, but you are in the middle of it and keep you involved
c- so if we are not involved w/ any group -- the 32 is for us?
t- if you aren't part of the group, a citizen then you get to choose between the $32 rate and the $36 rate, who do you want to get the oil credits, whats your decision
c- whats your decision
t- lol -- it depends on each person, some are not going to care about the extra 4 dollars, and its more important for the US to get the Oil Credits,  don't know who they are, but …. thats 2M,  who does that makes sense to… we know the US could have gotten as many Oil Credits as they wanted,  don't know why they'd give us an option like that, makes no sense to me
c- got to ask for the rate,  
t- when you call that number,  let me not do that till …. not giving all the info now, and its confusing enough
615
c- thank your
570
c-the NDA - keep tweaking it -- I'm not going to blab about where I got the money
t- I understand it, but they listen to the calls and look on the boards, they have a task force, thats what they do, and they find loopholes and they close them, and as we stay on the boards, they tweak the NDA for those scenarios, 
t- as ppl say they are going to do this and that,  tracking it anonymously  IP address, fingerprints on the letter and they will take it away from you - they are listening and keep tweaking it--- they cover all the sites and know who the site owners are.
cut him off --- what was his number,   570  ---  I can always depend on Montana---
c- so the 4th floor … and the 6th floor
t- so the guy on the 4th floor tells us that its done--he said it because he did everything that he was to do and handed it over to the IMF - because he did his part and thats what he thought - but by the time it gets to the 10th floor,  they say put it on the desk and the guy on the 4th floor doesn't know that…. 
then 3,4 days later they get it back - they're not lying to us, but they completed their part -- and we have guys that say --they wouldn't have brought me in if they weren't ready, got to be ready to announce, they called in ppl… but they brought them in and paid them --- diff. levels to this -- and unfortunately I talk to as many ppl at diff. levels, but not talking to Jack Lew and Pres. O, and other than that, we go and base it on that
c- ty
321
c- so the actual RV took place in Iraq and 7 others, so can't they do the bonds its held up here
t- the word from the highest of the high, was get it done as soon as possible -- serious and sacrificing herself to do this and she feels its important enough and supposedly everyone is on board and documents completed and getting this done and yes, Iraq had an IN COUNTRY RV and the cards are loaded, and the notes are not good as of the first and 3 days left, they explained to them how the currency will work -- and not because of the --- they didn't activate it in their country and the 7 countries that are, haven't pushed it down to the levels, but ppl that cashed out like our guys here, and who they know, so things going on, that are out of the norm and still happening  and this brings me to something else
on the boards they're still saying prove it, can't see it happening
well prove to me those that cashed out, but they did
and you won't see it
LOT OF COUNTRY'S YESTERDAY HAD ON THEIR TV THAT THERE WAS ---GOING TO BE A GLOBAL REVALUATION TODAY - INDIA, ALGEZARA -- THEY HELD IT OFF AS LONG AS THEY COULD
so ppl always want us to prove it to them
Either you believe it and look for it or you don't, but no one is going to put out a press release, for you!
Those are ppl that should never have gotten involved, they don't' understand global events…….simple, like its a bad thing, and it is when you talk about it on this level, ie. CIA AND FBI and working on a case, listen to wire taps and the you say PROVE IT TO ME, before we go to trial… got to get out of that mindset in this, its for unsophisticated persons
c- prove to me that it didn't….put the ball in their court
t- they're not capable of this, no contacts, and I say this and when I do my intel call - frustrated and I ask questions myself and I have a lot more info than you do, its not the question that you ask, but HOW YOU ASK - and the answers that I want to give ppl - if you ask it respectfully….. versus you are lying and there is no way it could have happened
c-in case they are listening --- we had 30 days,   then we had 5-7 and now we are down to 4,  tick tock, please release them
t- lol
c- hope we have a blast later today with the 800#s
t- got so many messages….
t- ppl telling me not to say idiot…. and something about computers…. or 570
T- I KNOW THINGS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT CAN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE RESPONSE ON THE BOARDS - WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND… THEY KNOW IT AND ARE FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE -- A FEW PPL CAN CAUSE THIS ON A GLOBAL SCALE BUT THEY ARE -- ITS A FEW PPL IN THE RIGHT COUNTRY -- IN ANOTHER COUNTRY - THEY'D BE SHUT DOWN,  ITS ALL POLITICAL
BACK AND FORTH, REPUBLICANS / DEM'S  - SOME OF IT,  THEY ARE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH AS THEY CAN - WHILE YOU CAN, BECAUSE YOU WONT' SEE THIS AGAIN -- SOME OF US WILL, BUT  MY WIFE SAYS TO ME --HOW MUCH DO YOU NEED -- AND I SAY--AS MUCH AS I CAN GET --WHEN BILL GATES STOPS THEN I'LL STOP -- PAUL ALLEN, RUPERT MURDOCH, FACE BOOK, WHEN THEY STOP MAKING MONEY - I'LL STOP -- THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT,  THERE IS A REASON FOR 3O FOR 30 AND ITS GONE AND MIKE TYSON WENT THROUGH MILLIONS AND ITS GONE,  PPL WIN THE LOTTERY AND ITS GONE -- AND THAT'S WHAT THE POLITICIANS ARE DOING AND THEY KNOW THE LOOPHOLES AND THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO GET MORE, AND ITS NOT ALWAYS GREED AND WHAT SOME OF YOU WILL BE DEALING WITH AND SOME SAY THEY ARE YOU FRIEND AND HOW TO MAKE MONEY AND IF YOU GO THRU 10 OF THOSE AND YOU'LL BE BROKE - AGAIN - ITS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME EVENT - CREATING MONEY FOR ME -- THIS OPPORTUNITY IS TO CREATE GENERATIONAL WEALTH,  THIS INST' ABOUT ME OR MY KIDS,  BUT ABOUT THE NEXT 5 GENERATIONS, AND THEY CAN LOOK BACK AND SEE WHERE IT STARTED,  5M. 50 MIL, OR 500 MIL.  PLAN FOR NOT YOUR FUTURE, BUT YOUR FAMILY'S FUTURE….
646
954
c- Merry Christmas,  how are you really feeling,  3 years plus. , can it take place over the weekend here.. or delayed 2 weeks
t- all I can do, is tell you what I've been telling you and if the bonds happen tomorrow, and do it the way its supposed to, then it should be here, if they are planning something else,   according to the meetings, then we should be here, no other reason, for this not to happen right now, nothing tech. to hold it back, thats not used as an excuse, nothing in Iraq or their gov. its all done, nothing here in our gov. no budget issues, legal, none of it is an issue, but some ppl did something wrong and are called on it, how does it get covered up - explained w/out ppl getting their heads cut off at the moment, and ppl threatened and do they believe the threats, playing poker…. do I think it could happen, yes, it should have already happened,  I like the fact that the bonds are due tomorrow and the WTO audit is Sunday… unless they do it in the back and officially document it and not officially tell the public and they are telling the ppl in Iraq the 3 zero notes are not good on the 1st,  so somewhere it has to end…
610
c- doing a good job, hope its over soon, think we'll be at the end soon?
t- I just answered that question
c- answer it again
t- that was the whole answer
c- maybe we shouldn't do calls
t- I think its important that they know and see that we are engaged, and how we will impact the community and this is what they are missing out on…. they control the news and media - so that doesn't get too far, except ppl losing out, and that we're helping them to close the loopholes,  I promise you there are guys in the chat room that are on the task force, they are tracking ppl and other things
t- the more info you have, the smoother it goes when you get to your appt. and pass it on to those not on the call, so if we didn't have the calls you'd be lost, the 32 rate won't be up long, and if you didn't know what you need to go in, you'd miss that way
c- we ask the same things all the time
t- just shows me that you weren't paying attention to the last caller
next 404

TONY CC TRANSCRIBED BY MONTANA (27 DEC), PART 3, 28 DEC

next 404
 
c- blessedandhighlyfavored…..
c- what do you think about the UN op. rates and haven't' been done yet
t- they can come out at the end of the month or…
c- Dec. 27th is the publishing date
t- today can be a great day -- hard for me to say what I planned on saying and they sent me a text to say not to say it
t- but they are there in case it happens,  everything reasonable says that it should happen before tomorrow , it should be a public rate, but the UN - I don't think the rates come out till 3
c- any info released from the Mosque
t- talked about the 3 zeros' and don't pay attention if the US rates are diff. so ppl don't get upset and again thats why the rates will only be there a short period of time and by the time they hear it, it will be over and the International rate will be there
 
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c- invited you to a party in Dallas
c- sounds like we are right around the corner in this thing and the 3 signatures are JL, CL and O… where is our Pres. in this
t- my understanding is he said to get this done, ASAP,  can't tell you exactly what he said, the UST told me not to say dates and time, but he has given a directive 
c- Mountain Goat,  Th. - Sun window
t- I head Tues- Thurs for years -- some say Thur. - Sun due to Iraq, but at this point, w/ the bonds being done tomorrow and the WTO on Sun. I don't think it any of it applies and in DC they say don't pay attention, banks open or closed, none of it matters,  but now we are at the point, multiple agencies and countries, the issue is a personal one now, of who gets their head chopped off and paying the 32 back, and its no, and the accts.  no, and the sooner you let it go, the less pain it will be, and now they are dragging it out and are you bluffing and last nights answer was yes, we are going here even if I wallow in the mud and last night was the first time they took her serious
c- can't give date/rate, but how will I be celebrating New Years
t- I hope to be celebrating mine in Vegas, the only way is if the RV happens, but I wanted to celebrate Christmas there and there is no way that…. nothing - no history - nothing left there to be done, between Iraq and China and the US and they did it enough times w/ the rates, etc.. not even being discussed at this level, right now the only thing being discussed is the corruption and how to resolve it so the RV can go thru
c- celebrate in Dallas
t- is that the place where the buses drive to the banks
lol
 
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c- good evening - how are you?
t- super super
c- when did America start being last, we'll be last to share the dinar blessing and if they didn't try to critique the rules and the corruption for the 30K - why let the masses wait
t- first of all, we weren't last WE WERE FIRST --none of the other countries got it, until our politicians got it,  our elite were the first - before the IMF released it last Monday and before the 7 countries started paying their elite and they were wrong and were called on it, and to fix it - so they don't' get prosecuted and they are working on some sort of agreement that they can live with it
t- so now CL is saying … investigating … and instead of one level… many levels,  and now last night she said she's doing it and some were surprised with what she did do and what she's going to do and then they said you'll put yourself in the line of fire and she said she's willing to
t- they weren't worried, they were going to cut it off and then they'd have to justify it, and let the 32 come out for only 2 hours, and thats it,  and she said nope you're not going to do that, and the length of time for the Americans to get that rate, and not everyone will get that rate, even if its not fair, then it has to appear fair-- getting into too much info….
c-ty so much
 
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c- had a little story about the media, and the radio - a few conglomerates that own the stations - and when the info got out there, it got shut down before you could believe it --- and a similar story - a time period before that - it was big news -- its not about small town anymore -- this really happened to me --- the current story is that the dinar is a scam -- and its shut down - so you are our only outlet for the news - the thing that comes to mind, is knuckleheads - but those that want to do a class action suit, that would close it all down and stop the RV and 10 years down the road, whatever we got - we'd have to give half to the lawyers
t- I agree with you -- don't know how to say it --- honestly just assumed that ppl know things, and my wife and friends get on me -- but ppl don't know what you know, not just this case, and I say - why not, I'm not a genius…. but when Pam called me - it would ruin this for all of us - then the Gov. would say, we had to stop it - because of this lawsuit --………why don't ppl see that from the start -- who does this make sense to - not thinking the process thru,  if I do this, what are the repercussions -- I look at things and achieve goals and then I go to the goal and back it down  ( if I need 100K in the next 12 months,  its 8K a month, or 2K a week, or 500 a day or 80 an hour  )
But ppl don't do that… I have to talk to Pam as my conscience ----- if I do this, they'll take it wrong and I have to word it this way - but why come up with idiotic solutions that are not solutions to this problem --- if you go on Yahoo, the late night talk show guy - showed News Stations and how every news broadcaster was saying the same thing, not close, but the exact same thing -- but thats what was loaded on the prompter,  they get it and its read out,  its controlled chaos and now you think you can send this to 20/20 and expose it, and you don't think they'll check the gov. on this -- A GLOBAL EVENT-- and who does this make sense to?
Once you react -- YOU'VE MESSED IT UP FOR ALL OF us….
c- the 32, versus the 36 rate and it depends on what number we call -- are there traps with the 36 rate and are we negotiating for the spread?
t- don't think there is negotiating involved -- the # is attached to the rate, which is attached to the country already
t- they are clearly saying if you want this rate, if you want the oil credits to go to this country, I only got part of the info
t- the # with the oil credit is straightforward
c- they'll get the ppl thru quicker
t- and its not going to be there forever and they'll both go down until they receive an international rate
c- why pay a spread when you are putting millions in the bank
t- again what I know is that each bank, was told, not to let the money out of the door - whatever it takes, so if you don't think you should pay it, there is another bank thats got the same rate.. do your own thing, will you have options - yes
c- thank you, can't imagine doing what you do, it has to consume your life
t- it is, every night all night - and need to give the intel guys credit, we already have a call after this call and do calls all day, the IMF, CBI, all on diff. time zones, and when they are at the office and awake,  its not just a 2 hour call, this morn. when they are on, and you are asleep - I'm getting text messages and conf. calls at 6am my time, its 9am there and we have to talk before the meeting.
They ask me the same thing, they want to know what I'm hearing, they don't talk to each other, and they rely on us to pass info back and forth, and sometimes I know its BS and still have to do it anyway, its how biz. is done in DC, they lie to each other and we have to figure it out.
At some point the truth comes out.  Then the threats come out and the investigation comes out and then thats where we are really at,  something that ends their careers, and it gets to that point and here we are…
 
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c- do I have your permission to speak to the PTB 
t- absolutely, no curse words
c- want to say, normal person, not significant, doing what I can do to make a better life for me and my family, not mad any anyone for cashing out early, but the thing that makes me sad, is that … altered our country and I'm proud of the country, but unfortunately now, the Gov. is not taking this under consideration, everyone knows someone that served our country and we are those that should be…. if it weren't for our ancestors, they wouldn't have the freedom they have…. the elite are more justified than we are, and yet we the ppl of the USA to form a more perfect union…… its not just them that have and want to keep what they have…. wealthier than us… so many on this call that wants to help this country and do special things to stimulate the economy and do good things… 
t- okay, you are absolutely right - and we are here and should have our turn and I think its coming down to that, messages now, if there is a way out and try to negotiate it at the last minute and its holding us up and I agree, 37K and 50K in the US have already cashed out at the high rate, and some with 5mil dinar and if thats done, when does it get to be our turn and realize they did things that they shouldn't have done and classified as illegal but if it goes thru then its legal and let bygones be bygones and how to save their neck and now they are saying they weren't aware and now they are saying no - you were on the ledge
some things still need to come to some sort of conclusion in order for tomorrow to happen and that's what we are waiting to see
c- we are really good ppl 
 
OK GUYS
WITH THAT
THE MODS HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR YOU 
NOT 24/7 
THE AFTER DARK CREW
I KNOW ABOUT YOU
THEY HAVE FUN AND A GOOD TIME
TNT AFTER DARK
 
ITS OK -STAY CONNECTED
OUR MODS AND INTEL TEAM
WORK HARD TO KEEP THE ROOM CIVILIZED
AND KEEP YOU FROM BEING IN THE DUMPS
NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT
ARGUING WITH EACH OTHER WONT' SOLVE IT
 
NOT BEING DEMANDING OR IGNORANT OR ARROGANT
WITH EACH OTHER
 
OUR INTEL TEAM, LETS THANK THOSE GUYS
PAM, RAY , AND 8, 9 OTHERS AND DO A CALL
FROM AROUND THE WORLD
AND HEAR WHAT OTHER AGENCIES ARE GETTING ABOUT THE US
AND GIVE US STUFF THAT DON'T EVEN LIKE US
AND WE TAKE IT.. YOUR GOV. BLAH BLAH BLAH
AND SOMETIMES I HAVE TO SAY YOU ARE RIGHT, CROOKED AT SOME LEVEL
NOT THE ENTIRE GOV. BUT INDIVIDUALS
 
BUT THE GOOD THING IS
PROGRESS MADE A THE 5PM MEETING
WENT TILL MIDNIGHT LAST NIGHT
MADE DECISIONS, SIGNED DOCUMENTS AND DEF. BE BACK BY NOW
SET A TIME FRAME FOR IT TO BE ACCOMPLISHED
WAIT TO SEE IF IT HAPPENS
MOST AGREE, ABOUT THE BONDS TOMORROW
THEY CAN WAIT TILL THE LAST MIN. 
AND BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND SIGN THINGS AND SAY ITS DONE
AND THE PUBLIC WON'T KNOW ITS DONE
BUT WE HOPE ITS IN THE PUBLIC
SAME WITH THE WTO
AND EVEN THOUGH IRAQ WAS ACCEPTED IN THE WTO
NOT IN FLASHING LIGHTS
BUT EVERYONE WANTS IT TO BE PUBLIC
THE END OF THE YEAR IS IN OUR FAVOR
TAXES, ONLY 2 DAYS TO DO THAT
VERSUS THE FIRST OR 2ND TO MOVE MONEY AROUND IN A YEAR
LETS HOPE TODAY IS THE DAY
IF ANYTHING EXCITING - WE'LL PUT OUT A BLAST
IF SUPER - WE'LL DO A CALL
 
PAM- IF IT HAPPENS TODAY - ITS WORTH THE WAIT - BE BE KIND TO THE MODS
RAY -- HANG IN THERE, WORTH THE WAIT
 
ALL RIGHT GUYS THAT'S OUR DAY
 
ENJOY THE REST OF OUR DAY