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Thursday, November 21, 2013

LOECHIN UPDATE : MORE ENCOURAGEMENT!!, 21 NOV

11:40 AM Central time......loechin: This is ALL I will say today, the process as you know it is OVER.
And what you care about is OVER. The RV is over, and the Banks in fact have the RV
in hand and will release it to us when they are ready again to do it end of story guys.

SPGURU POST UPDATE, 21 NOV

Spguru wrote Nov 21st @02:53pm: friends best thing right now is not to try and figure it out, i know that is hard but tony is helping you a lot wait for him.
Spguru @ 03:10 pm pst: ok so just picked out my fortune cookie "your life will be prosperous". well if true then all of you will be right there too "hint". I tell you I don’t comment on other info but trust TNT and Tony, trust Okie.
SPGuru @ 04:53 pm pst: Ok so here is what you been looking for. I known all day that new times had been set. The time is soon and it is more evident that is still coming. So enjoy your evening be back after football game to confirm things are still going forward for all of your blessings. Need a break just like all off you. Remember time is on our side now and exact nobody know that but it is coming.
@ 05:01 pm pst: thanks everyone also spending time with the kids soup cold bad weather and football. sports family. I hope you all enjoy your evening. Even the naysayers can we all just have a great night of piece between it all for one night please. Thanks I really understand how you all feel.

OKIE UPDATE, 21 NOV

 [..okieoilman] I AM RECEIVING VERY POSITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT MAY TRANSPIRE IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE NIGHT TONIGHT--PRAY THIS IS SO

A BANK STORY FROM TNT FORUM, 21 NOV

A Bank Story
PB = private banker
PM = private messages
WF = Wells Fargo

6:32 PM Karen and Bob: My chat room friend and fellow transcriber, dakotaman, WAS at the bank today!!!!!!! Now who would like him to tell his story?????
6:32 PM dakotaman: I went and emailed my PB at WF if he wanted to take care of my exchange or should i use the 800 system?
6:32 PM dakotaman: Ten minutes later the response, "I will definitely take care of you. How soon can you come in?”
6:33 PM dakotaman: I set the appointment for 2 this afternoon eastern.
6:33 PM dakotaman: Packed all the stuff into a briefcase and went today. Cool as a cucumber
6:34 PM dakotaman: I arrived on time. I went in and he said what would you like to exchange today? How much do you hold in hand? Is it here?
6:35 PM dakotaman: He loves foreign currency. He examined the IQN,VNN,ZWN and IDN loved the watermarks
6:37 PM cj101: Dakotaman. Is that the story? You took the funny colored paper into the bank, you were well received, and the banker liked the watermarks on the funny money??? 
6:37 PM dakotaman: OK so anyway he calls the exchange location which I know where that is anyway right near the airport
6:38 PM dakotaman: He spoke with a woman there at length she was bringing him up to snuff
6:39 PM dakotaman: Long story short he learned that he jumped the gun. Although he was saying it was to revalue all the while he learned otherwise.
6:39 PM dakotaman: He apologized to me twice, I was disappointed but not surprised.
6:40 PM cj101: dakotaman. So you didn't get paid for an exchange but you got first hand confirmation that the RV is imminent? Is that right??? That is GREAATT!! You must have floated home!
6:40 PM dakotaman: He says that it is close but that he thought through the urgency of email that it was already done.
6:40 PM dakotaman: We sat and brought each other up to speed on what each other knew.
6:41 PM Karen and Bob: dakotaman While we all wish that you HAD been able to exchange your pretty paper ... we are much happier to know you'll be here with all of us transcribing tomorrows call & keeping us company tonight! We would've missed you!
6:42 PM cj101: dakotaman. That is very cool! Thank you for sharing. I'm glad for you. Not quite a pay day but a great confirmation.
6:42 PM wewillsee: to Dakotaman did he give you a hint as to when?
6:41 PM dakotaman: I now know the varieties of perks available, he knows where I wish to be, how much control I can accept and expect.
6:41 PM Lake Lady: to dakotaman Karen and Bob all good news!
6:42 PM cj101: dakotaman. That is very cool! Thank you for sharing. I'm glad for you. Not quite a pay day but a great confirmation!
6:43 PM dakotaman: I didn’t come away rich in money but i came away rich in knowledge, experience. This was a DRY run and very good dry run. I found that the security concerns aren’t there at least not here
6:43 PM a_li'l_fox: to dakotaman do you mind if i ask what bank? was it one of the big ones Tony talks of?
6:45 PM dakotaman: I will now address the PMs I been knocking down for the past ten minutes. I debated for the past 4 hours whether to say anything or not.
I decided that if the calm and reassurance reached one other person then I could deal with all the idiots that just wanted to laugh or make fun.
There ya have it, 80 minutes spent with a PB. We are nearly there.

ALREADY BLESSED POST, 21 NOV

Already Blessed (PAM): JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH TONY! EVERYTHING IS STILL ABSOLUTELY AWESOME...HE WILL DO A BLAST LATER TODAY...NO WORRIES!
 Already Blessed wrote Nov 21st @12:12pm: LIGHTEN UP GUYS.....NO BAD NEWS....WE ARE USED TO WAITING FOR IT! HANG IN THERE....IT IS REALLY ALMOST OVER! TONY WILL DO A BLAST LATER TODAY....NO WORRIES...IT IS ONLY NOON THERE...GIVE HIM SOME TIME TO GATHER INTEL, CONFIRM AND VALIDATE.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 21 NOV

11-21-2013   Intel Guru TNT Tony   [via Already Blessed]   Everything is still absolutely awesome...NO bad NEWS...WE are used to waiting for it! Hang in THERE...IT is really almost over!

11-21-2013   Newshound Guru Lojak
   This ride is about to end, and the crazy rates will not be happening.

11-21-2013   Intel Guru Winalot
   Let's have a reality check.  I can see no way possible for the rates being thrown around to be possible.  You can believe what you want.  BUT!  When you are standing in line at the bank, and you get to the point of exchanging, and they tell you $3.++ on the dinar, and $.05 'ish on the VND...remember one thing.  AT THAT RATE, THIS IS THE SINGLE BEST INVESTMENT YOU WILL HAVE EVER MADE IN YOUR LIFETIME! I would also like to add a word about the smart cards...NOTHING HAS CHANGED~!  The Iraqi's still worry EVERY DAY if they are going to be able to feed thier children. 

11-21-2013   Intel Guru Loechin
   There were verified situations that did concern the Banks and that has been given attention to by the right people this morning. Can this continue NO and it won't either.  We are right now in an EVERYTHING MOMENT. Right now at this very moment everything in your financial life is about to change. NO ONE knows the exact moment that this is coming, that we know anyway. Is there a back date, yes and do we know It yes, but it won't be told to the masses either.   Keep the faith that the RV is here, it has been completed, and it's in the hands of the Banks. When they release it, we will know it...   

11-21-2013   Newshound Guru Adam Montana
    [Is the CBI the only one that can institute this RV or can the IMF or another organization force it?]  The IMF cannot force the CBI to raise the rate. The CBI is the only entity that can approve or deny a change in what they are paying for it, and that is what sets the rate.

11-21-2013   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man
    [do you believe we will have a shot at appointments on Thursday?]  THATS WHAT WERE HOPING AT THIS MOMENT BARRING ANY MORE UNFORESEEN INCIDENTS.  [Can you divulge the rate...?]  RATE STILL UNBELIEVABLY HIGH AND HAS BEEN CONSTANT FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW.  [do you see this being resolved and all of us who follow the rules at the banks soon?]  ABSOLUTELY YES.  [post 2 of 2]  

11-21-2013   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man
   THIS ALMOST SOUNDS INCOMPREHENSIBLE BUT THE STATED GOAL OF THE UST IS TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE AND REDEEM AS MANY DINAR HOLDERS AS POSSIBLE IN ONLY 7-10 DAYS. THAT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE 30 DAY DEADLINE BUT THE LONGER YOU WAIT THE RATE WILL START TO DROP.  THE APPOINTMENT PLACEMENT CENTERS WILL BE 24 HRS A DAY FOR 30 DAYS OR AT LEAST UNTIL THE CALLS SUBSIDE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THERE REDUCED HOURS.  [post `1 of 2....stay tuned]

11-21-2013   
Newshound Guru Kaperoni    [How long do you think the large notes will be good?]  the CBI said institutionally they will accept them for up to 10 years but if you dont buy that..the IMF has a rule...any IMF member who does a currency change, must honor their currency for at least 12 months so you have at least a year.  under shabibi the CBI complied with the IMF and if they would have requested Article VIII it would have been granted and the dinar would have begun to rise.  under Turki the monetary policy is a mess.  the outside pressure is building around Iraq to make changes.  they cannot sit and do nothing much longer.  [post 2 of 2]

11-21-2013   Newshound Guru Kaperon
  [your thought on the "opening float" ?]  it will start where it is, 1166 and rise fast...the rate could climb to 1 to $1 or more.  its up to Iraq and the IMF and until the CBI conforms, nothing will happen.  ...if the dinar we hold, is going to be a "hard currency" as stated by the CBI it must float that is a fact, hard currencies cannot be hard, unless they float and if the dinar we hold is going to be held in central banks around the world "for a very long time" as the CBI stated as a reserve currency...it has to be priced correctly so they can buy and sell.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

11-21-2013   Intel Guru EXOGEN
    PER DIRECT CONVERSATION...WITH  CONTACT...EVERYTHING IN IRAQ IS COMPLETED, AND NOTHING REMAINS BUT THE RELEASE OF THE 1-800 NUMBERS.  NEW SECURITY CONCERNS AND SOLUTIONS PRESENTLY BEING DISCUSSED IN REFERENCE TO EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE  IN 2 STATES AT BANKS
11-21-2013   Intel Guru TD   Being at an impasse, Parliament is now on vacation till mid December and unlikely to do much rest of December either. There is progress in works at the GOI level building upon nation alliances, contracts being signed, etc. Several times now my source indicates that some great articles/news to come out at November's end and I'm not privy to much additional details.     [post 2 of 2]  

11-21-2013   Intel Guru TD
   So Where are we REALLY?  Just check the CBI website and that pretty much says it all. Keep in mind, no one can stop something that hasn't even started. What is going on is political posturing by mainly M [Maliki]  supporters to release at the best time to get the most bang for your buck which is re-election. And that schedule is spring of next year.  It is primarily M's backers who are holding up revisions of bills and additional laws passed & implemented. They feel timing before election time ( no one knows or has decided exactly which month as of yet) will yield a return to their cozy seats.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

11-21-2013   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    HERE IS SOMETHING TO KEEP IN YOUR MIND--THE RATE WILL NOT BE A CONSTANT FACTOR--IT WILL VARY SOME NEARLY ON A DAILY BASIS. NOW--SOMETHING ELSE--TRY TO GET YOUR APPOINTMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO PRECLUDE A DECLINE IN RATE--THERE WILL BE A VARIANCE.  [post 2 of 2]

11-21-2013   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man
   
[800 numbers coming soon?]  HOURS AWAY IS THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FORGOING ANY MORE INCIDENTS...PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE ELABORATED MORE---THE UST HAS RELEASED THE R/V TO THE BANKS---IT IS IN THEIR DISCRETION AS WHEN TO SAY AS BOB BARKER USED TO SAY----"""COME ON DOWN""".  THE UST WILL INFORM DEALERS WHEN TO EITHER STOP SELLING OR RAISE THEIR PRICE TO REFLECT THE NEW VALUE.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]
11-21-2013   Newshound Guru Millionday   UN security council meeting:  The title of the report  "Add DFI funds to raise the cash reserve value of the dinar"   the addition of dfi to raise the value of the dinar and place them under international law.    the UN has told the US that they need to arrange the return of iraq`s money right away.

11-21-2013   Intel Guru Loechin
   OK guys here is what I know...there were groups of people in NY and it caused some real concern.  However,  I can tell you we are OK and what I'm told is that everything that was held off is OK now. The Banks are nervous and when this happened today, they don't want things to get crazy. Remember the public has no idea about this.  [do you think they will be another hold up?]  no.  

11-21-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   IT MAY FLOAT BUT NEVER FROM WHERE IT IS NOW. IT WILL BE ALLOWED TO FLOAT FROM A MUCH HIGHER RATE THAN THAT...IF AND WHEN IT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO FLOAT THEN IT CAN FLOAT AT 2% EVERY 30 DAYS UP OR DOWN. THE CBI STATED A FLAT RATE WAS WHAT THEY WANTED. THE STARTING RATE HAS BEEN SPECULATIVE BUT IN ALL OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION I HAVE EVER SEEN IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN $3.22 TO $3.86 AND ALSO BEEN STATED MANY TIME CLOSE TO KUWAIT. TIME WILL TELL.

OKIEOILMAN POST, 21 NOV

11-21-2013   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   THIS ALMOST SOUNDS INCOMPREHENSIBLE BUT THE STATED GOAL OF THE UST IS TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE AND REDEEM AS MANY DINAR HOLDERS AS POSSIBLE IN ONLY 7-10 DAYS. 

THAT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE 30 DAY DEADLINE BUT THE LONGER YOU WAIT THE RATE WILL START TO DROP.  THE APPOINTMENT PLACEMENT CENTERS WILL BE 24 HRS A DAY FOR 30 DAYS OR AT LEAST UNTIL THE CALLS SUBSIDE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THERE REDUCED HOURS. 

Okie_Oil_Man    [do you believe we will have a shot at appointments on Thursday?]  THATS WHAT WERE HOPING AT THIS MOMENT BARRING ANY MORE UNFORESEEN INCIDENTS.  [Can you divulge the rate...?]  RATE STILL UNBELIEVABLY HIGH AND HAS BEEN CONSTANT FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW.  [do you see this being resolved and all of us who follow the rules at the banks soon?]  ABSOLUTELY YES.
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  ..okieoilman] I HAVE JUST READ THE REMARKS MADE BY OTHERS REGARDING MY POST THAT RE-CAPS POSTED. 

I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE REASON YESTERDAY'S DEBACLE INFLUENCED THE RELEASE FROM THE BANKS AND YOU RECEIVED IT WITH SCORN AND DIS-BELIEF.

WELL I SUPPOSE THAT IS YOUR PEROGITIVE. EVERYTHING REGARDING THE HOLD UP FROM MENTALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE AT THE BANK WAS FACTUAL AND TRUE.

THE COMMENTS ALLUDED TO ABOUT EXCUSES AND ME BEING DILUSIONAL ARE CERTAINLY NOT APPRECIATED. TO THOSE WHO CONSTANTLY CHALLENGE FACTS BEING FURNISHED (AT NO COST)--LET THEM EAT CAKE.

 I HAVE DONE MY BEST TO HONESTLY FURNISH THE BEST INFORMATION I POSSESSED. THOSE DOUBTERS ARE NEARLY ENOUGH TO MAKE ME SIT BACK AND WATCH THEM DIG FOR INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE NO ACCESS TOO. 
 THIS IS A DISGUSTING DISPLAY OF CONDUCT BY THOSE WITH NO CONTACTS BECAUSE THIS DOES NOT FIT INTO THEIR OWN OPINIONS WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHERE WE ARE PRESENTLY.

I AM CONTEMPLATING NOT FURNISHING ANY FURTHER INFORMATION AND LEAVE THEM IN THE DARK.

 I APPRECIATE ALL THOSE WHO RECEIVE WITH MY BEST INTENTION THE INFORMATION I FURNISH.-----BLESSINGS TO THOSE WHO AREN'T MENTALLY CHALLENGED

[..okieoilman] I HAVE NO INTENT OF PUNISHING ANYONE. ON THE CONTRARY I HAVE ONLY TRIED TO HELP--IF THAT IS AN EXCUSE--SO BE IT. YOU NEED TO REALIZE WHILE OTHER INTEL GATHERERS HAS A CREW HELPING THEM, I HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY ON MY OWN.

IT SURE GET'S LONESOME OUT ON THIS LIMB SOMETIMES. ALSO REALIZE I HAVE BEEN GOING THRU THIS SAGA FOR 10 YEARS NOW AND IT'S TOLL SEEM'S TO JUST NOW BEGINING TO TAKE AN EFFECT ON ME.

MWKD POST, 21 NOV

MWKD Nov 21st @09:53am: If you want the truth, there were incidents at the bank... In more than two states.. No you won't be able to find out because it isn't meant for you to find out... Yes as I have old you there IS. A backwall. Don't forget who runs this country, some of you won't understand that.. I will NOT give you the date, and honestly I hope Tony doesn't either.. Sit back and relax, those kinks are getting ironed out and this should all be over VERY soon

EXOGEN UPDATE: DIRECT INTEL 7:53 EST, 21 NOV

PER DIRECT CONVERSATION 5 MINUTES AGO WITH
CONTACT EVERYTHING IN IRAQ IS
COMPLETED, AND NOTHING REMAINS BUT THE RELEASE
OF THE 1-800 NUMBERS. NEW SECURITY CONCERNS
AND SOLUTIONS PRESENTLY BEING DISCUSSED IN REFERENCE TO
EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE  IN 2 STATES AT BANKS.
EXPOSURE MITIGATION PLAN IN MOTION VIA AOP.

LOECHIN POST: OK WHAT HAPPENED?, 21 NOV

LOECHIN - OK What happened ?

First of all let me say that ALL IS WELL..... Ok I waited for a while before I can into the forum to post anything. In my years of being invested I have never had more confirmations of this thing going like I did today. 

Even down to local banks being given the all go signal today this morning. In Iraq right now the IQN has made the people very happy because of what has taken place in country. 

I verified all the intel I was given this morning at least five times from people in the US and abroad and it was the exact same info that today the RV was scheduled to go.

If people think that this is going to go off for the US with idiots acting crazy like the verified accounts Tony has told us today then think again. 

Is the RV stopped no but did the stupid actions of some crazed dinar people scare the crap out of some of the banks yep you better believe it.....

Where are we now well I for once in my life I don't have an answer but I can assure you we are going to find one.... People please follow the rules......