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Wednesday, November 20, 2013

OKIEOILMAN POST : Q & A, 21 NOV

[..okieoilman] NO THE ONE NOTE SCENARIO IS NOT OFF THE TABLE BUT IT CERTAINLY CONTRIBUTED TO THE CHAOS THIS MORNING STOPPING THE IMPLEMENTATION

[..okieoilman] THERE ARE NEARLY 5 MILLION AMERICANS WITH DINAR---WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE IN THAT LINE WAITING FOR ONLY THE OPPORTUNITY OF EXCHANGING 1 NOTE OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF EXCHANGING ALL YOUR NOTES----------THE DECISION IS YOURS TO MAKE

[..okieoilman] IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE WE CAN BE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY IF WE PURSUE WHAT THE NEW YORK PEOPLE DONE. THAT LESSON SHOULD NOT BE HARD TO ABSORB SHOULD IT?

[..okieoilman] THIS REMINDS ME OF AN OLD ADDAGE THAT IF WE PULL ON THE OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE ROPE WE ACCOMPOLISH NOTHING---HOWEVER---IF WE PULL ON THE SAME END OF THE ROPE THEN THERE ARE SOMETHING TO BE GAINED.

[ellenge50] So 800 numbers coming soon
[..okieoilman] ellenge50 ---HOURS AWAY IS THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FORGOING ANY MORE INCIDENTS LIKE I RELAYED TO YOU

[cookieb] Excuse me sir, I have a question. There is so much confusion here at the end. How to know who to trust. I trust you. Do we go with the g64 group as planned or trust Tony? I'm sorry to interrupt. But I've never asked a question and it seems like the time is nigh.
[..okieoilman] cookieb --I PERSONALLY AM GOING WITH MR. SMITH AND MR. WESSON AND NO ONE ELSE

[Orion] ..okieoilman This whole fiasco makes no sense. The banks don't control the RV, just the CE. If the RV is done and we are just trying to manage a herd of 5M, it is not clear how they will ever control the mob. Those of us on this site get it but the other 4.9M will need mace or something to get the message.
[..okieoilman] Orion --PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE ELABORATED MORE---THE UST HAS RELEASED THE R/V TO THE BANKS---IT IS IN THEIR DISCRETION AS WHEN TO SAY AS BOB BARKER USED TO SAY----"""COME ON DOWN"""

[CigarDan] ..okieoilman we then will be held hostage to the most stupid among us.... Wow....
[..okieoilman] CigarDan -NOT ON A LONG TERM BASIS--THERE NEEDS TO BE A NEW LOGISTICAL APPROACH UTILIZED

[rem6330] Doesn't surprise me - after 31 yrs on the streets as a cop and 4+ yrs working for Uncle Sam - I have lost a lot of respect for people in general - they are uneducated animals and really have no concept of how to be proper in society. It is sad that there are those that think that they are entitled to something without paying their dues. I still say that Isreal, for example, has the right idea - everyone has an obligation for 2 yrs. in the military upon graduation from High School - respect & disciplin
[..okieoilman] rem6330 --THATS THE BEST POST OF THE NIGHT MY FRIEND

[CigarDan] ..okieoilman the actual system to RV created the problem by M [..okieoilman] CigarDan -NEGATIVE--OTHER GLOBAL EVENTS ENTERED INTO THE PICTURE

[Orion] ..okieoilman I understand, but am just not sure how the banks will ever control the masses. Maybe us vets need to post ourselves at the front door of the banks.
[..okieoilman] Orion --AS I SAID BEFORE--THAT ISSUE IS BEING DISCUSSED AND HOPEFULLY SOLVED AT THIS EXACT MOMENT

[CigarDan] ..okieoilman we then are victims of being uninformed....no matter how hard you and others have tried...
[..okieoilman] CigarDan --IT IS HARD TO FOLLOW YOUR TRAIN OF LOGIC MY FRIEND

[Orchid] ..okieoilman Maybe a Military Individual should head this up? At least then we would know that no one would be left behind
[..okieoilman] Orchid --BRILLIANT OBSERVATION

[1blessedchicasbetterhalf] ..okieoilman Te Banks have said it's a Scam all along... So if you don't have an Appointment, you are told it's a Scam and sent on your way... (solution 1)
[..okieoilman] 1blessedchicasbetterhalf --O.K.---WERE ALL GETTING OUT IN LEFT FIELD AGAIN--KEEP FOCUSED

[coffeehound17] ..okieoilman so you are saying that the banks never thought or prepared for this over the last, I don't know..... 12 months?
[..okieoilman] coffeehound17 --ALL CONTINGENCYS (SP) CAN'T ALWAYS BE CONTEMPLATED--YOU KNOW--HINDSITE?

[Toriboo] Question: What can we do about the people who are not reading this or when you post it on Recaps? So it won't happen again?
[..okieoilman] Toriboo --AGAIN FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME--THE PROBLEM IS BEING ADDRESSED---NUFF SAID ON THAT
[8:29:37 PM] Taffysmom4: [shamrockbigfoot] If the powers and gurus dont know when this thing is gonna pop how in the world does bus loads of people time and activate bus loads at banks at the same time ur supposed to be able to cash out?
[..okieoilman] shamrockbigfoot --WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT SOMEONE DOESN'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE ACTIVATED-------

[AustinTx] ..okieoilman Do you know if any of the people was able to C/E and was the rate still high?
[..okieoilman] AustinTx --NOT THE PARTICULAR GROUP I WAS REFERRING TOO---YES---SOME HAS REDEAMED---SOME BEING THE KEY WORD

[coffeehound17] Okie... Copy. But with all respect sir this seems like a obvious issue to prepare for. Thank you
[..okieoilman] coffeehound17 --THEN WHY DON'T YOU FIX THIS STUPID MIX-UP---????

[..okieoilman] THERE WILL BE NO BANNING OF INTELLIGENT RESPECTIFUL QUESTIONS

[..okieoilman] PLEASE UNDERSTAND--I KNOW THE NEXT WINDOW--I TOLD YOU IN MY ORIGIONAL POST--JUST BE SATISIFIED AND KNOW ALL THE ****ING IN THE WORLD WILL NOT ACCOMPOLISH ANYTHING------BE A PROBLEM SOLVER AND NOT A PROBLEM STARTER

[soupkid] Sir, do we have any idea of the next window of opportunity?
[..okieoilman] soupkid ---YES AND I STATED IT IS HOURS AS THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY BARRING NO FURTHER INTERFERENCE

[shamrockbigfoot] If the bus loads of people knew when it was gonna happen then why didnt we know?
[..okieoilman] shamrockbigfoot --THATS THE POINT---THEY DIDN'T KNOW

[~KiniBop] ..okieoilman I was just looking on a currrency dealer site and thay are still open for business ... with the pre-RV prices ... wouldn't they be shut down or at least have the RV prices in place to avoid "double-dipping"?
[..okieoilman] ~KiniBop --THE UST WILL INFORM DEALERS WHEN TO EITHER STOP SELLING OR RAISE THEIR PRICE TO REFLECT THE NEW VALUE

[gapeach56] okie ... it looks like the evening/weekend would be a good time to roll this out. at least the general public wouldn't be around when the crazies descend on the bank.
[..okieoilman] gapeach56 --BANKS WILL DETERMINE THAT

[Frenchy] ..okieoilman Of the supposed 5M Dinar Holders Only about 20,000 or 25,000 are Active On these Boards Waiting for the 800#s and supposing Each one Gives the 800" to 2 People and Thats a BIG IF Thats 60,000..Where are the rest Going to Hear or even Know it has RVd if Not Following any Protocals?
[..okieoilman] Frenchy --DON'T WORRY--WHEN IT GOES LIVE IT WILL REGISTER 8 ON THE RICTOR SCALE--IT WILL GO AS VIRAL AS A FLU BUG ON AN AIRLINER

[sas] Well I think any of us that can wait a day or two should voluntarily stand back and give folks with urgent needs a chance to get to the front of the line. Okie, will the dealers be able to offer a rate close to the banks?
[..okieoilman] sas --I DON'T WANT LIABILITY FOR ANSWERING THAT QUESTION---LET ME PHRASE IT THIS WAY--I HEAR (KEY WORD) THE DEALERS WILL BE COMPETITIVE THUS ALLOWING SOME WITH RESERVES TO DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THEM IF THE RATE IS EQUITABLE

[lulu] okieoilman, do you know why they did this1 note thing in the first place knowing full well this would happen? Thank You!
[..okieoilman] lulu --YES--THE ORIGIONAL INTENT WAS TO HELP EXPEDITE THOSE WITH RESERVES TO HAVE THE FUNDS TO REDEAM THE RESERVES

[..okieoilman] THIS SCUTTLEBUTT REGARDING DEALERS HAVING A COMPARABLE RATE HAS JUST ARISEN TODAY--TRUE??--WE'LL SEE

[midnightrock] What is your thought on ZIM
[..okieoilman] midnightrock --GREAT OPPORTUNITY

[..okieoilman] NO DRAMA --OK--SO WHAT'S THE ANSWER TO HUMAN EMOTIONS OUT OF CONTROL-------------

[..okieoilman] WHERE IS DR. PHIL WHEN I NEED HIM?

[preacherman] ..okieoilman No Q's just thanks for the info. Gonna help the Mrs. make the bed and then get in it. Blessings. Will check in the mornin'. Who knows, maybe I'll have an unasked question by then. All has been answered at this point, at least it seems so. Blessings of the Lord. Good night and Keep The Faith
[..okieoilman] preacherman --GOOD NIGHT MY FRIEND

[..SpecialAgentGibbs] ..okieoilman Shock therapy has offered some outstanding results....jus say'n
[..okieoilman] ..SpecialAgentGibbs --I TRIED A LOBOTOMY ONCE----DUH---GUESS DATS WHY I DUNT SPEL 2 GUD
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] ..okieoilman Goober    

[nicole&paul] Okie do you get to call this thing still?
[..okieoilman] nicole&paul --SUPPOSED TO

[..okieoilman] I CAN'T EVEN READ ALL THE QUESTIONS MUCH LESS RESPOND--I TYPE 60 WORDS A MINUTE BUT STILL CAN'T KEEP UP

[royall57] ..okieoilman My suggestion is to allow people with reserves to make a second appointment to cash in reserves for the same rate and eliminate the one 25k cash in.
[..okieoilman] royall57 --REGARDING YOUR QUESTION--HERE IS SOMETHING TO KEEP IN YOUR MIND--THE RATE WILL NOT BE A CONSTANT FACTOR--IT WILL VARY SOME NEARLY ON A DAILY BASIS. NOW--SOMETHING ELSE--TRY TO GET YOUR APPOINTMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO PRECLUDE A DECLINE IN RATE--THERE WILL BE A VARIANCE

[.~dinarmama7] [midnightrock] do you know if the million notes are going to have any value or just the trillions?
[..okieoilman] .~dinarmama7 --REGARDING MILLION NOTES--SURELY YOUR SPEAKING OF THE ZIM'S
[.~dinarmama7] ..okieoilman I believe the person was yes
[.~dinarmama7] Just trying to help you catch back questions.
[..okieoilman] .~dinarmama7 -REGARDING THE ZIMS--I AM ONLY AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITY OF THE 50 AND 100 TRILLION DOLLAR NOTES

[..okieoilman] COMMERCIAL BREAK

[r2d2] ..okieoilman Got a situation. As I told you before I represent an elderly friend with a POA to handle her Dinar. You said it was enough. But, We are taking her to Europe next week. If It doesn't RV before we leave, I not only have hers, but ALL of mine, and don't want to miss a higher rate. Can I assign another POA for both of us?
[..okieoilman] r2d2 --BEYOND MY EXPERTISE TO ADVISE ON THAT--CONSULT AN ATTORNEY

[nml] ..okieoilman Do you know if husband and wife can exchange at the same time? We have each purchased separately but will have account in both names. 
[..okieoilman] nml --RULE 1--HARD AND FAST--1 PERSON--1 APPOINTMENT--NUFF SAID

[brian1] Okie, why the UST don't try to deliver the 800 around 3 am, so most of east coast will be sleeping and west coast getting to bed
[..okieoilman] brian1 --YOU MUST EITHER HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL OF BE PSCHIC---

[..okieoilman] I THINK IT MAY BE FRUITFUL FOR A REPOST OF MY ORIGINAL POST AND TO READ IT SLOWLY WITH COMPREHENSION--THAT MAY ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS

[..okieoilman] WHEN I SAID MUCK UP THE WATER---ANOTHER WORD CAME TO MIND---BUT NOT PRINTABLE----HEH HEH

[..okieoilman] THIS ALMOST SOUNDS INCOMPREHENSIBLE BUT THE STATED GOAL OF THE UST IS TO TRY TO ACCOMODATE AND REDEAM AS MANY DINAR HOLDERS AS POSSIBLE IN ONLY 7-10 DAYS. THAT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE 30 DAY DEADLINE BUT THE LONGER YOU WAIT THE RATE WILL START TO DROP.---RE-READ THIS WITH UNDERSTANDING

[AustinTx] ..okieoilman Do you know out of the 5Million people, aprox. how many are in the U.S.
[..okieoilman] AustinTx --YEP--THAT IS THE USA CITIZEN NUMBERS

[kyblue] There truly may be a herd of idiot Dinarians but I can't help but wonder if a lot of those callers and stampeeders are plants to make us look bad and to mess things up for us. they moved awfully fast???
[..okieoilman] kyblue --NOPE
[9:02:26 PM] Taffysmom4: [..SpecialAgentGibbs] ..okieoilman PERHAPS THEY WANT TO GET DONE QUICKLY FOR THE CHRISTMAS SHOPPING SEASON EH?
[..okieoilman] ..SpecialAgentGibbs --THATS A STRETCH
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] (an attempt at humor)
[..okieoilman] ..SpecialAgentGibbs --ATTEMPT BEING THE KEY WORD?

[KettleP] Are we still getting our 800 # from here by email?
[..okieoilman] KettleP -HERE AND ELSEWHERE

[Hunter711] Even if all on the dinar boards follow the instructions fully we are only a small percentage of the estimated 5 million dinar holders. The rest will do their own thing.
[..okieoilman] Hunter711 -AND YOUR GOING TO PREVENT THAT--HOW?

[gtoy] Logistically the mistake was made when the IQD was allowed to be ce'd at banks. The IQD should be exchanged offsite. They cant release #800's and allow people to be buying more while they wait for their appointments. Banks could exchange all other currency. Is there any chance that this will not happen this year?
[..okieoilman] gtoy --SECURITY PRECLUDES THAT SCENARIO

[LuvDinar] ..okieoilman It is a pity that it appears no-one engaged a Social Psychologist on this matter. Mob Mentality is all about a belief of limited resources - it appears that the perceived limitation is time. Remove the belief that there may not be sufficient time and the mob-think goes away. The dropping rate makes these people panic. The only other psychological solution is consequences. Perhaps freeze funds for 30-days for people rushing banks rather than making appointments? 
[..okieoilman] LuvDinar --TOO DISCREMATING (SP) DESCRIMINATING(?)

[gtov725] Okie how far out of the window has the debacle caused us to fall?
[..okieoilman] gtov725 --I KNOW OF TODAY FOR SURE--PREVIOUSLY I AM UNAWARE

[gtov725] Do you think we are still in current timeframe
[..okieoilman] gtov725 -ABSOLUTELY

[loumat] Mr. Oil Man...did you see how well recieved G.W. Bush was last night on Jay Leno? this country is starved for any remnants of leadership. The country is starved for honesty and integrity. I hope that with our good fortune, we will committ to turning this country back to the principles of its founding. good fortune to all!
[..okieoilman] loumat --SAW THAT BILLBOARD WITH HIM AND THE CAPTION WAS---"MISS ME YET?"

[..okieoilman] TOO ALL OF YOU AND THERE ARE MANY, THAT THOUGHT G.W. WAS A BAD PRESIDENT----JUST COMPARE HIM TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW[JBK] Probably already asked but will the banks take callls for appt immediately after the 800 numbers are released even if in the wee hours of the a.m.?
[..okieoilman] JBK --GOOD QUESTION----THE APPOINTMENT PLACEMENT CENTERS WILL BE 24 HRS A DAY FOR 30 DAYS OR AT LEAST UNTIL THE CALLS SUBSIDE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THERE REDUCED HOURS

[..okieoilman] JBK --GOOD QUESTION----THE APPOINTMENT PLACEMENT CENTERS WILL BE 24 HRS A DAY FOR 30 DAYS OR AT LEAST UNTIL THE CALLS SUBSIDE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THERE REDUCED HOURS
8:12 PM [kennypth] How about confiscating the IQN from those who rush the bank wothout an appointment? .....that would stop them in their tracks and bring order to the process? Put those who rush the banks to the back of the line?
[..okieoilman] kennypth --THIS IS NOT RUSSIA MY FRIEND

[moreagles] OKIE, do you believe we will have a shot at appointments on Thursday
[..okieoilman] moreagles --THATS WHAT WERE HOPING AT THIS MOMENT BARRING ANY MORE UNFORESEEN INCIDENTS

[LuvDinar] ..okieoilman In reality, how long can the mob-the-bank last? The majority of dinar holders will make our appointments and follow procedure. Maybe they just need to beef up security for 24 - 48 hours and just ride the bull! I'm at a loss....   ... and about G.W... I even miss Clinton these days.
[..okieoilman] LuvDinar --YOUR ASKING ME TO EXPLAIN HUMAN NATURE TO YOU---I AM NOT CAPABLE OF THAT

[DinarBob] ..okieoilman Do you know the difference between the WF group rate or other large groups and bank rate? (not asking the rate difference) Is there a large rate gap, any rumored tax consequences etc.... I am pleased to see President Bush and VP Cheney making public appearances. I think it is for a good reason that they are emerging.
[..okieoilman] DinarBob MANY QUESTIONS--THIS GROUP THING I AM STILL PONDERING

[Hallalman] With the NDA does it state who you are allowed to disclose it to such as gov. agencies, who may leak info. on you?
[..okieoilman] Hallalman ---YES IT STATES VERY CLEARLY----NO ONE

LOECHIN UPDATE, 21 NOV

IT"S OVER I TELL YOU....... Many have been sending me a boatload of cow dung telling me I was nuts, a Tonyite, a stupid Evangelist, for ever thinking we were even close. 

A bunch of people told me they liked me till I started sounding like TNT Tony, and I though WOW what an honor to be compared to Tony. 

So TODAY yes TODAY, Chase Bank was told that this is the day the release is scheduled for, and yes it has been confirmed several times, and yes that's at the LOCAL level Chase Banks. 


Is it going to happen today, well I am hearing that tonight they have plans to roll this baby out. So I am looking like I have never looked before. So as of right now we are on alert knowing that all is done, completed, etc

Last night Tony did a call, as far as I am concerned the most informative call ever.


 You need to get the notes and print them off and follow them to a tee. He dealt with exchange and it was awesome, amazing information on the do and don'ts of exchanges.

Rates are stinking high on the IQN, and the VNN. So when the 800 numbers hit call and make your appointment and OBEY the rules. As of right now we are excited more then ever and wait for the email from the Banks.....


SPGURU EARLY EVENING 20 NOV, 21 NOV

Lurking until I can safely talk . I can't and will not let others hurt my friends and family. 

They bring no value other than the opposite to TNT family and can't prove a thing otherwise. That's what gets everyone going is when that starts up.

 People will not handle blessings when it is time if they don't learn from this. We are only 20K people that have it. There is still 5mm (as in 5 million)

We have other things TNT says if it sounds good and yet tearing us apart in our home. I see they r now using pay it forward but don't agree with other things. 

Let's get our house in order this blessing is here and you have been told it is coming. It has no exact time but all is great. I know first hand. I know some of you believe. 

I wish I could share more. But I did make promises to be here til the end and also signed many NDA. So far I have stayed loyal to both.

added: I am disappointed you don't have this in your hands yet. Plan and simple no reason. 

It is not about us but this is past old. Others have received the blessing it is time and yet you wait. I encourage you to be patient and wait for your blessing it is worth it for sure. Love you family and friends.

OKIEOILMAN UPDATE, 21 NOV

0:05 PM [..okieoilman] GOOD WEDNESDAY EVENING EVERYONE. THIS POST WILL BE OFFENSIVE TO SOME AND TO OTHERS THEY WILL PERFECTLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IS PRESENTLY GOING ON.

TODAY WE WERE INFORMED OF RECEIVING OUR 800 NUMBERS FOR OUR APPOINTMENTS. THE REASON WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED IT IS BECAUSE OF THE FOLLOWING.

MY SOURCE JUST INFORMED ME THE UST HAD ALREADY GIVEN PERMISSION TO THE BANK'S TO ACTIVATE THE PROCESS AND FOR A VERY SHORT WINDOW THIS MORNING AND AT THEIR SOLE DISCRETION, THEY DID SO. 
  AS IT HAPPENED IN 3 LARGE EAST COAST BANKS THERE WERE LITTERALLY BUS LOAD'S RUSHING THE BANK'S.
THE BANKS BECAUSE OF FEAR AND SECURITY ISSUES PASSED THE SITUATION AS IT TRANSPIRED TO THE UST AND REFUSED TO ACTIVATE THE R/V.

 NOW THAT SHOULD BE WARNING ENOUGH TO ALL OF US THAT THE RUSH TO THE BANK WILL HOLD UP THE PROCESS FOR US ALL.

WHOEVER FIGURED OUT THE LOGISTIC'S OF THE REDEMPTION MUST HAVE BEEN THE SAME I.T. COMPANY TRYING TO ACTIVATE OBAMACARE. (PERSONAL OPINION).

THE OPTIMUM SITUATION WOULD HAVE BEEN TO ISSUE THE 800 NUMBERS SEVERAL DAYS AGO CONTINGENT ON A DATE OF IMPLEMENTATION, RATHER THAN GIVING THE "ONE NOTE PROVISION" TO EVERYONE.

THIS ISSUE WILL PREVAIL UNTIL WE ALL REALIZE OUR ACTIONS CAN AND HAS HAD AN ADVERSE EFFECT UPON ALL OF US. AS LONG AS EVERYONE CONTINUES THIS DEBACLE WE WILL ALL SUFFER.

 PLEASE WAIT UNTIL YOUR APPOINTMENT AND THEN CASH IN YOUR CURRENCY (EXCHANGE I SHOULD HAVE SAID).

I AM BEING TOLD OF A NEW TIME LINE ONLY HOURS AWAY. NOW---DON'T LET THAT INFLUENCE YOU INTO BEING ANOTHER TROUBLE MAKER AT THE BANK'S.

THE LOGISTICS INITIALLY WERE FLAWED AND WE ARE LIMITED TO IT'S FLAW'S. WE (AT LEAST SOME OF US) COULD HAVE BEEN AT THE BANK TODAY EXCEPT FOR THOSE MENTALLY CHALLENGED INDIVIDUALS WHO DEPRIVED US ALL OF OUR BLESSING.

STAY AWAY FROM THE BANKS UNTIL YOUR APPOINTMENT AND DON'T BE A BLACK FRIDAY SALE'S OPENING INDIVIDUAL WAITING TO BE TRAMPLED TO DEATH.

 PLEASE HEED THIS ADVICE, IT IS PROBABLY SOME OF THE BEST ADVICE YOU WILL EVER RECEIVE. DON'T MUCK UP THE WATER FOR OTHERS OUT OF GREED OR INTENTIONAL CONDUCT.

10:11 PM [..okieoilman] THERE ARE NEARLY 5 MILLION AMERICANS WITH DINAR---WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE IN THAT LINE WAITING FOR ONLY THE OPPORTUNITY OF EXCHANGING 1 NOTE OR WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY OF EXCHANGING ALL YOUR NOTES----------THE
DECISION IS YOURS TO MAKE

10:12 PM [..okieoilman] IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE WE CAN BE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY IF WE PURSUE WHAT THE NEW YORK PEOPLE DONE. THAT LESSON SHOULD NOT BE HARD TO ABSORB SHOULD IT?

10:14 PM [..okieoilman] THIS REMINDS ME OF AN OLD ADDAGE THAT IF WE PULL ON THE OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE ROPE WE ACCOMPOLISH NOTHING---HOWEVER---IF WE PULL ON THE SAME END OF THE ROPE THEN THERE ARE SOMETHING TO BE GAINED.

10:16 PM [ellenge50] So 800 numbers coming soon

10:16 PM [..okieoilman] ellenge50 ---HOURS AWAY IS THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FORGOING ANY MORE INCIDENTS LIKE I RELAYED TO YOU

10:19 PM [..okieoilman] Orion --PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE ELABORATED MORE---THE UST HAS RELEASED THE R/V TO THE BANKS---

IT IS IN THEIR DISCRETION AS WHEN TO SAY AS BOB BARKER USED TO SAY----"""COME ON DOWN"""

EXOGEN UPDATE, 21 NOV

99.9% OF PEOPLE IN IQD LAND HAVE NO BANK CONTACTS, NO AGENCY CONTACTS,

NO IRAQ CONTACTS, NO IMF CONTACTS, NO CIA CONTACTS, NO FBI CONTACTS,

NO HOMELAND SECURITY CONTACTS, NO WORLD BANK CONTACTS, NO CONGRESS

CONTACTS, AND WHAT THEY RATTLE OFF IS 1000% B.S.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DO NOT LISTEN TO THE NEGATIVE DREAM STEALERS!!!!!!!!!

DO NOT LISTEN TO THE GURU BASHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

IGNORE PEOPLE WHO ONLY TALK ABOUT OTHERS.................

WE DID A CALL FROM 8:00 PM EST UNTIL 5:30 AM EST

AND NOT 1 OF THESE FAKE OPINIONATED DREAM STEALERS

WHO HAVE NO INTEL EVEN CAME TO THE CALL SO WE

COULD DEBUNK THEM IN PUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!

THEY ARE A BUNCH OF BOARD POSTERS, WHO BRING

ZERO TO THE TABLE.......................

THEY FEED ON NEGATIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!

100,000,000,000 FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PREPARE TO EXCHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 20 NOV

11-20-2013   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   WE ARE AWAITING ON THE RELEASE OF THE 800 NUMBERS---THATS IT---THATS ALL---THEY CAN APPEAR ANYTIME NOW---NUFF SAID!!!

11-20-2013   Intel Guru Delta
   [via refinisher]  On the CBI web site, the Arabic one (not English) the CBI has implemented a new policy that the banks in Iraq must be within 2% on all profit margins dealing with currency exchange. BASICALLY  it means anyone selling their dollars to the bank for dinars would not get "fleeced"...why would they want to sell their dollars?  because once Iraq gets put in to article 8 by the IMF, Iraq can only have 1 currency, (Dinar), article 8 means their currency is international!!!   this new policy starts DEC 1st and JMO, after DEC 1st...Iraq feel free to raise the value if you like!!!

11-20-2013   Newshound Guru tlm724
    I believe...there will be series of events, many already happening now, that will come about to show us what we seek, namely, laws being amended, the launch of the plan for the new currency and increase in value and the electronic system being turned on...and it is certainly possible that this could indeed be fast tracked!!  [post 2 of 2]

11-20-2013   Newshound Guru tlm724
   
we need the Banking laws amended to comply with several points 1. modern banking strategies and international banking requirements 2. Basel compliance 3. to comply with the IMF requirements for reform 4. and because some of them no matter apply, next is this...they DO indeed go by a schedule...now are they continuing with the schedule no one knows.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

11-20-2013   Intel Guru Bluwolf
   Check List:   high rates-yes, banks ready-yes, cc ready-yes, are all issues with Iraq covered-yes, will 800# and appointments be giving-yes, will it be close - yes it is already close to home...
11-20-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   All dinar news is sounding very promising and getting closer to completing all their task.

11-20-2013   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG
   Article:  "Raising zeros from the Iraqi currency strengthens and raises the value of dinar, says economic committee member"   This is another member of the Economic committee in Parliament speaking out in the media…why??   ...they want it as bad as we do – maybe worse. Every time it doesn’t happen when “supposed to” the Finance and Economic committees just go bonkers in the media. It would not surprise me there was some “internal word” it was supposed to go down a couple of days ago. Then didn’t.   this might explain the flurry of articles (unwanted by the CBI* *).

OKIEOILMAN UPDATE, 20 NOV

[..okieoilman] WE ARE AWAITING ON THE RELEASE OF THE 800 NUMBERS---THATS IT---THATS ALL---THEY CAN APPEAR ANYTIME NOW---NUFF SAID!!!

[..SpecialAgentGibbs] VERY SIMPLE, IF YOU RUSH TO THE BANK FOR THE SUPPOSED ONE NOTE EXCHANGE, AND ACT LIKE A BUNCH OF JACKWAGONS, DON'T BE SURPRISED OF THE BANKS GET PO'D AND SHUT THINGS DOWN

SMILE EVERYONE, JUST GOT A CALL BACK FROM A FRIEND WHO HAD IQN FOR YEARS, SO LONG HE THOUGHT THEY WHERE STILL 3.44.

I CALLED HIM TOLD HIM ABOUT LATEST DEVELOPEMENT. HE LAUGHED.

HE CALL ME BACK AND SAID HIS BANK CALLED HIM TO GIVE HIM UP DATE TH
AT HIS PURCHASE YEARS AGO IS GOING DOWN. HOW ABOUT THAT!!!

ALREADY BLESSED POST, 20 NOV

[Already Blessed (PAM)] I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT YOU FORM SOME SKYPE GROUP CHAT ROOMS BECAUSE THIS CHAT MAY BE CRASHING OR CLOSING TODAY....AND YOU WILL STILL WANT TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER!
[Already Blessed (PAM)] 800 NUMBERS WILL BE POSTED ON ALL TNT WEBSITES....FORUM AND CHAT BUT CHAT WILL PROBABLY CRASH FROM ALL THE PEEPS TRYING TO GET IN....FORUM MAY OR MAY NOT CRASH BUT THIS ROOM WILL BE SHUT DOWN WHEN TONY GOES TO THE BANK AND SIGNS THAT NDA                
[Already Blessed (PAM)] TALKING TO RAY ON THE PHONE.....HE HAS ME ALL EXCITED! I JUST CAN'T HIDE IT!

BLUWOLF POST, 20 NOV

DON'T BE THE NORMAL YOU, YOU ARE NOW A MILLIONAIRE, IDIOTS DON'T PROSPER

Listen up people stop and I mean stop acting up before the race begins. You need to act accordingly you need to be in style, you need to transform yourselves into the new kids on the block and stop acting like cows stampeding to the slaughter house.

This unlikely behavior creates a big risk, a lot of logistics and security issues for all banks. Not to mention that stupidity itself can make you show your weakness to the predators that will be out there scanning the area to see who can be pickup.

Listen this is not a black Friday scene at a local Walmart this is you being a pro. and doing your thing in complete order.

So when you receive your instructions with the coded 800# just breathe in calmly make your appointment call,study your area for your exchange, just be there at least a day before so you can see the whole scenario or battle grounds. Then when going to your appointment just make it proper to be there professionally just 15 to 20 minutes before your schedule appointment. 
A word to the wise this venture no longer is in the US government control, its a go gentlemen and ladies and it just will pop up period.

So please do us all a great favor stop storming the banks with phone calls for I hope you know by doing so you are responsible for the banks delays period so stop being the idiots in the room. WF will be buying your dinar and no you will not be sent to the end of the process line if you ask to negotiate a higher rate, now I want the people transmitting to the contrary ( I think banking imposed ) to just stop for it is falsely and not so. I say the truth before God so how about it.

And on the subjects of scammers in Puerto Rico from my neck of the woods, my 1,900,000 are all ok in peace, in calm, highly dinar and bank educated just waiting on our friend and bank group leader to give the notice to this exchange.

It is greediness that makes some become stupid, become idiots. It is not being so that makes you prosperous for God already has sent out His value accomplishments to all His children to the dime (no peanuts).

Check List; high rates-yes,, banks ready-yes,, cc ready-yes,, are all issues with Iraq covered-yes, will 800# and appointments be giving-yes, will it be close - yes it is already close to home, Reno what gives? -there on alert and on the move now no more bs.

Just be patient America Gods gift is among you be prosperous.

My time now transpires and in a few days it shall be no more.

Shala
Bluwolf

TONY CC LATE TUESDAY : RECORDED LINK & NOTES, 20 NOV

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Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U:

TNT CALL STARTING NOW......

T = TONY - Call will be for 1 hour only.

T - Good evening, TNT Dinar. You know it's something special or I wouldn't have called this call. You guys are being really bad, on the board, asking for info, news, etc. I have info you are looking for, what you've been waiting for your whole life.

T - There were some big meetings today in Iraq. This is what you want to hear. Plus, some things on how to protect yourself nationwide. I've been asked to tell you this by some agencies so you'll understand what I'm telling you.
T-I've been asked to tell you that you must be under control. Act like you've been in a bank before, that you've been in a line before, that you've had money before. Some of you will be investigated based on the amounts you have. They are actually already targeting a segment of people.

T - They are going to do some investigations, remove some people, looking for people. I'm trying to get all this out front not to scare you but to warn you. Hopefully - what is planned right at this moment - today the called in bank people, sent them home, then 30 minutes called them all back in, waiting for something to happen. They have planned for something to happen. The banks have the 800#s, but I don't. I was told I should receive them in the early morning hours. This may change. Go to sleep because you'll be up early.

 T - I don't think it's going to happen tonight, but they are planning for you to be at the banks tomorrow. That's the plan right now. They're trying to get 5M people done in 5 days. If you get an 800#, call that number. Those people have 2 minutes - reiterated today - to make your appointment. They will either hang up or pass you to a supervisor if you take too long on the call. You don't need to ask questions about bank accounts, setting up accounts, etc. They do not have those answers. What they do is you go here or here, your name, email address, how much do you have. Now here are the 2 options they'll offer you. The next time you talk to someone is at your bank appointment.

T - I told you to use a new email address, a new computer, etc. so you're not attached to anyone on this board, on the internet, etc. They have leveled the playing field so they can get 5M people processed in 5 days. The exchanger's rates WILL BE competitive with the banks. They will be notified sometime between now and tomorrow morning that you will fill out an NDA. You will sign an NDA and you will not transfer ANY foreign currency without signing the NDA.

T - If somebody walks into the bank driving a bucket, an old car that barely runs (excuse the profiling), raggedly pants, uncouth, etc., holding 1M dinar, he's getting investigated. Dress appropriately when you go to the bank. You don't have to wear a 3-piece suit, but dress appropriately. Go with your peeps who've never had a bank account before. You guys with the billions, trillions of dinar, you will be audited and have to show receipts for your currencies after the masses have gone through. They will audit and require receipts. This could go all the way to July, August of next year. KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS - even after you exchange. You will need them for the audit that most of us will go through.

T - We should have the 800#s in the morning. The rates will be competitive. The banks will determine whether to cashout 1 $25K note or 4 $25K notes. They have that option. Walk into the bank and ask them. We don't know how they'll do the NDAs with the exchangers, but hopefully they'll have that worked out in the morning. The NDA is SERIOUS. They will look at making examples of people. Today they stressed to me how serious the NDA is, especially as fas as you talking to your family and friends. They will go after drug dealers, anybody else involved in criminal activities.

T - They want you to be CALM. Don't be rushing to the banks at one time. They're trying to make this go orderly. It will start with us then trickle out to the other. There is no "company line." Just don't say anything!! Some of you who go to Vegas will be able to say "look what I won." And it's a reason they have money in their pocket. But they are taking it seriously. There are a couple of news outlets that will carry some countries and their economic growth. You won't be part of it. There are designated news locations that will take care of that already setup.

T - After your cash-in you can make an appointment and go back to change your bank account. Banks change rates differently. Chase changes there's at 7AM every morning, they all change them at different times of the day. So none of them will give you a rate over the phone. So just because we post the opening rate when you get there it may be different. Not dollars, but pennies, nickels, etc. But I can tell you the rates will go down quickly, not 15-20 days. But not $5, $10, $20 a day. But they will go down gradually.

T - The Big 4 banks are ready. It will take a little longer for the Tier 2 banks to be ready. If you're out in the west, for example, even though you call the 800# they may not be ready. When you go in, the bank tellers won't know. The branch managers won't know. They'll be briefed in the morning. Don't get mad if they have to make a call or get approval. Those who go in first will face this. In the beginining they won't know as much as you know and they're on the wrong side of the counter. Don't get mad at them!! Understand what they're going through as they talk to you. Make it as smooth as possible. It's not their fault. Remember, those Marshals and law enforcement officers in the banks are on their side and you will be asked to leave and will put on a list.

T - In Iraq they did get to the rate they needed to. There will not be any big announcements. Right now they're telling them in the mosques that on Thursday evening they will be explaining everything to them. Their celebrations will be a couple of days afterwards. Those things they said would need to happen will be announced afterwards.

T - You can only expect to hear that some military guys were fortunate over there. But the big thing tonight is that the NDA IS SERIOUS. They want the masses acting right. Otherwise, you will be escorted out the door.

T - Taxes - put 50% away for taxes, 25% away to do work for you, 25% for you to spend. They're trying to get a 10% tax in place but it hasn't been passed. They fully-expect you to be broke in 2 years or less. They expect you to go through this money like water. DO NOT BE THAT GUY - IT WILL HURT YOU THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. It's only for 90 days, until February. We should know by the end of December the tax rate, but put the 50% away until we know.

T - I really didn't expect to see this until sunrise tomorrow morning. I didn't expect them to call the bank people back in tonight either. We can't do anything about it anyway. I'm going to sleep until they call with the 800#s numbers. We'll then schedule another call 30 minutes later. It'll be put on the site and I'll share an additional info at that time. The reason I'm doing this call tonight is to share this info with you so you'll not miss it when the RV call comes in.

Q&A STARTING NOW...


 [FLPatriot59] Q - What about cashing out a $25K note not at your own bank? A - You don't have to go back to your bank. If you don't have an account there, I'm sure they'll open one for you. If you have people like this who don't have an account already, you may want to go with them and help them out. That's what I wanted to do tonight - make sure you're calm and know that everything won't work right. It may not be smooth, but you can control that. You can be happy, even if the employees aren't.

T - They DO NOT want you going in groups to the bank. Go 1 or 2 together to help each other. Just don't go in groups, i.e., 10-20 family members. Don't draw attention to yourself. If you see a big line, go to another bank.

T - This system was put in place for people who DO NOT have reserves. If you have hard currency make your appointment and let them know what you have in reserves. The banks are not going to hold the rates for you. Make sure whoever you get your currency from will lock in your rate. They're trying to get all the hard currency through the system as fast as possible.

Q - Difference between call center and cashout center. A - The call center will set your appointment. They have 2 minutes to set it up with you. Don't ask them questions because they can't answer them. They have quotas to meet, so don't waste their time asking questions. The Exchange Center/Cashout Center, they have 20 minutes scheduled for your appointment. They'd prefer you go to a bank where you already have an account set up. If not, they will set up a Premiere Account for you and have you work on the rest with your wealth manager at another appointment.

Q - Will the IQD have a different rate than the IQN and will the NDA apply to both at the exchange? A - I don't know because they're going with the IQN and VNN. I would not ask for IQD. The NDA applies to ALL currencies. I don't think the banks will supply you with a copy of the NDA (blank) to review beforehand.

T - I'm doing this now because we expect to see this tomorrow before the sun rises. That is the plan. Whenever it is, I wanted you guys to already have this info. Be planning, know how you're going to call your people, they're going to have to know this. The banks and the gov't agencies are depending on you to do your part in getting this info out. The reason we're getting this info now is that they appreciate what we're doing to help you, i.e., helping our economy grow, keeping you from going broke. They want you to succeed. They want this to be a long-term investment for you and prepare for your future. They don't want you to run through your money in 6 months. Try to help others! Pay it forward!

"Live Call-in" STARTS NOW...C = CALLER | T – TONY

C - Husband & wife joint account? T - Yes, if it's going in the same account.

C - Regarding the VNN, if they don't respond to VNN and they say VND, what do I say? T - If they say $10 then that's the one you want.

C - Do we need gift letters for audits later? T - Everybody won't be audited. They'll audit at certain rates, probably not at $1M, but higher. They're going to audit if they feel the money came from criminal means. If you gave a gift letter with the currency it will make it better and smoother for everybody.

C - Is the appointment for all currencies? T - Yes, you can do them all at the same time. You need to keep the IQN separate from the VNN.

Q - Would it be wise to go to a different branch? T - Go where you value your privacy. If it feels comfortable go to a different branch.

T - IN REVEIW - We are expecting to receive the 800#s sometime between now and tomorrow morning. The plan is to have everybody in the banks starting in the morning, east coast to west coast. Rates are still good. Please, please, please, be calm and professional. Let's do this the right way: we don't want to draw attention to ourselves and we don't want issues with bank personnnel. Even afterwards, you have money, you have millions. That doesn't make you smart. It just makes you a rich dummy. When you go back to the bank next week, you'll still need to have respect. They didn't know. They beiieved their bosses and followed wha they were told. I expect them to be upset. It's in the past - over and one with. Let's live our lives right. That's what they wanted me to get out tonight. BE PROFESSIONAL. BE CALM. DO NOT SHOW UP IN GROUPS>

T - We'll try and have a call in the morning. We should be able to. I'll have any updated info they give me. Guys, I don't know if this will happen but this is what I was briefed, that it's supposed to happen.

T - If there are any changes I'll do it on the morning call. Have a good night - go to sleep!!!

END OF CALL