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Monday, November 4, 2013

TONY CC RECORDED LINK & NOTES, 4 NOV

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Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U:

 [FLPatriot59] TONY'S CALL WILL BE TRANSCRIBED HERE. Duplicate questions from the call-in portion will not be transcribed. Silly chit-chat will also not be transcribed. We reserve the right to do that. Enjoy!

TONY - Good evening, TNT Dinar. How are you guys doing tonight? It's November 4 at 7PM EST. We're doing a late-evening call because I had one helk of a day. You won't believe what I'm going to tell you. Our lines are maxed out. We have set the record for Blog Talk Radio, according to them.

T - I'm going to give you the bad, the worse, and the good part. I want to leave you on a good note. 
We have 5K on the line and both are maxed. We tried to get in the Forum today and our Forum has been shut down. The Forum servers, per the company, are demanding more traffic than they can handle. It's more than all their other customers combined, so they shut us off.

T - In the meantime we have the 5 sites. You can still view the Forum but we just can't add anymore info. I would love to give you everything you need for the new site, but we have over 20K people and 100 people are donating to support the site. It is what it is. I'm proud to say we blew 2 companies out of the water, but on the other hand we could do things better but they cost money. If there's anything on the Forum you want you should go ahead and copy and save in case we don't get it up in time.

T - Here's what happened today. You're not going to believe it. I'm going to tell you a story for you to understand. We were talking about getting early pay out and I had an opportunity to get to Reno today and CE at $8. Since I'm so close I decided to check it out. I've heard about investigations and arrests, etc. So I'm in Reno and we're supposed to meet these people down by the valet and go to a secret location. But then we had to go up to the business center and complete some paperwork. We went up there for a CE at WF for $8, who would do a wire transfer directly to our WF account, all cash today. No SKRs. All cash. So we go to check it out.

T - We go upstairs to the business center thinking we're going into the business center, thinking we're going in to complete the paperwork. Instead, we were standing in the hallway filling out paperwork. That was my first clue, but I'm playing along. Then we get to the Q&A. The guy starts explaining how this will work, fill out paperwork, get it notarized, etc.. Then they realized they were running out of time, so they said let's forget the paperwork and go to the exchange location and do the money part.

T - I said, "wait a minute, this was supposed to be a cash transaction and we'd get paid within 2 hours in cash." It turned out to be a bait & switch. They were giving an SKR - Safe Keeping Receipt - with the name of the guy (Paymaster) and somebody else (a lady elsewhere) would sign it that we gave him our dinar. Do you see a problem with this? I can't believe they're trying to pull this over on people and that people are believing it. In fact, they're getting mad at me because I'm asking questions. They should have thanked me for trying to keep them safe.

T - So we go to a house in a cul-de-sac - this is the "secure location" - and we're supposed to give him our dinar. We were to put all our dinar in one box and they'd take it over to a bank and run it thru a DelaRue Machine to find out whose was counterfeit. I asked the guy in charge how they would determine whose dinar was counterfeit and he didn't know. We get to the house and it has a lockbox on the door. They tell us they're tired of staying in hotels. I asked one of my intel guys to check it out and supposedly there were 9 separate people living there. These people are going in there giving them their dinar, sitting at a dining room table counting currency.

T - We found out they are involved in high dollar fraud cash things. They were absolutely doing what we've been hearing about for years. I don't even know the paper trail. The guys in charge, who gets the money, you don't ever see. The ones you saw claimed they weren't even getting the money. A bunch of people gave away their future today. Here's the kicker: I asked why they're doing this and they said it'll only be worth $3 later and wanted to offer $8 now. I watched them counting their money and giving it to them. We told a few people - some stayed, others left.

T - Okay, I told you something bad, something worse, now let's go to something good. It was a crazy day today. There was a lot of misinformation out there about Maliki and the meetings. He was over here and some agreements were made. There were some personal things that had to do with somebody's personal survival and the growth of Iraq. Here's my problem: I don't know what's public and what's not. Everybody knows about the SOFA and that Maliki is trying to get protection for Iraq, i.e., more advanced weapons, but not boots on the ground in the traditional sense.

T - Some last minute requirements were made on both sides. At 12:02 AM EST last night Maliki made a speech and announced to his people about their currency, that they'd be the strongest in the region, etc. but he didn't say what he was supposed to say and that's why we didn't have an RV today. Supposedly right now, today, the 800#s were supposed to come out after 2PM. Nothing is saying it can't happen later tonight. The required personnel are in position right now and it can go anytime. I haven't given up for tonight or tomorrow. Bank personnel go back to their old jobs tomorrow, so hopefully this one is it. If not, it's still a good week and it should be sooner rather than later.

T - I still hear some are saying it's supposed to be 1:1. Even though their rate may change ours will remain the same. That would cause their country to be punished for something because of one man. We could still see this tonight, tomorrow, in the next 3 days or the next 3 hours. There's nothing that has to be done - not the rates, not the banks, etc. It's all political at the last minute. I didn't read the article about the election laws, but it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter to us either way.

T - The rates are still the same. If I was you I'd still be happy and making my plans.

Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM STARTING NOW...

Q - Will there be banks in Hawaii to CE? A - I believe that will be true and they will get the same rates as other banks.

Q - What percentage have already exchanged? A - Zero. 1/10th of 100th of a percent.

Q - What other currency are you expecting to fly through? A - Next thing will be the Norwegian. But it won't be like this for sure, i.e., boards, conversations, etc.

Q - What about payoff reserves and have bank accounts set up and have Sterling transfer to bank? A - I don't think so, that's a question for dealer

T - WF has an international 800#. That number is 800-626-9430 for international currency. This is NOT the 800# you will get for CE.

Q - Have you heard about the shut-down on the 13th/14th of this month of the US grid, banks, etc.? A - It doesn't really make sense to me, going through this having the banks give you all this money then take it back. They could cancel 13303 right now and not give it to us. You think they have to plan some massive scheme to take your dinar and then pay you off then take it all back? Guys, I'm not into all that.

Q - If a foreign bank has branches here in the US will they see our rate? A - All banks in the world will see our rate.

Q - When do you honestly see the 800#s? A - I expect to see them right after the RV is announced. When Maliki left the RV was supposed to occur when he touched the ground and made an announcement. He made an announcement but it wasn't the right one. Now we have to wait for him to do it again.

Q - Have others cashed out (spguru, et. al.) and how much longer will we have to wait? A - I guess we're not special like spguru. There are a whole lot of people getting paid - that has not changed. It is not about what you know but who you know.

Q - Are they playing TOny or us? A - we are getting info you should probably never have. You're in the moment of discussions and agreements you shouldn't even have. You're being involved in country-to-country negotiations that nobody else in the world is. You're on a whole other level of global negotiations. Once you see it and understand it, it makes you see things differently.

Q - Where are the LD Tony mentioned a week ago? No photos? A - They are out in Iraq. I got info from 4-5 different people. They're supposed to be in use tomorrow. At least that's what they're being told.

Q - The clock is ticking and we're waiting on politics. A - That is not the clock that is ticking. The clock that is clicking is the Christmas season and the impact it will have on our economy.

Q - Do election laws in Iraq have anything to do with the RV? A - No, it has nothing to do with the RV.

"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW...C = CALLER | T = TONY

C - Will the NDA apply to the VND? T - I understand it will apply to all currencies involved in the GCR. They write the rules. They don't want anybody to know that we became wealthy with something everybody could've known about.

C - If you have less than 1M IQD can you CE without an appointment? T - You can CE $25K one at a time but it will be up to the bank to determine if you can do more.

C - As long as Maliki is around could this go on forever? T - I think he was trying to make himself relevant but after today I don't think it counts anymore. He upset the apple cart and it's a do or die moment now. The IMF will step in by Thursday if he doesn't do what he's supposed to do.

T - I hate to keep putting dates and times but I give you what I get. Hopefully this is the last window we'll get. It could go in the next 30 minutes. There is nothing RV-related holding it up.

C - We did the same thing months ago at $5 in Reno. There were lots of red flags. T - I know people - a whole group in Reno - who lost billions of dinar. The money goes to the Paymaster and he decides how much you get. You have to request so much money and they pay you out, collecting interest, etc. There are so many scams out there. One of those deals may be legit, but you're far more likely to fall into one that is not.

C - Do you think Maliki screwed this up with translation issues? T - No, he knew what he was supposed to say and he decided to do it his way. But they told him he was not going to do it his way.

C - So with a back wall on Thursday, we could go from $32 to $3.44 in one day? T - It actually went from $32 to $36, which was the ceiling the rate, but now it actually showing the ceiling is higher. It will affect their rate but not ours.

C - Do all the banks have to be closed or open? T - It can go anytime. They had something in place they wanted to do and now there are no restrictions. It can go anytime, any moment.

C - We heard something about 70% of the 3-zero notes were turned in? T - Maybe 70% of the 3-zero notes in Iraq, but there are 5M folks here. Whales didn't drop billions.

C - Who corrected Maliki and is controlling what he says? T - I better not say. You'll get me in trouble. Want to talk about something else? They've been playing a game of poker, going back and forth daring each other. At some point somebody has to execute. The key is if he makes we're good. If he doesn't, somebody else does and he loses.

C - I have a large amount of IQD to deposit into a 501c3. I want to negotiate so will I be affected by traps, even tho I'm a 501c3? T - That is why they put them in there, the way they put it to me. They don't really care who it is. It is a higher tax, but it's a little more complicated than that. They did put other things into the traps besides just taxes. I don't know if it comes out at $36 what the new ceiling is. They keep saying the rate is so high they don't want anybody negotiating. But if you choose to take that chance, then okay. They're not going to tell you the ceiling rate and you have to know it and do it right. If you want to know that ceiling rate ask Pam.

C - At the CE should we ask that they use a DeLarue machine? T - When you get your appointment call them and ask them if they have one. There are a bunch of places you can go to. One of them will have a DeLarue Machine.

C - If we take a $25K to CE, will we just take it to the teller window? T - You will start there but you will be directed to a desk for the paperwork. Or you can just go to the Customer Service desk first.

C - What is this guy in Iraq supposed to do in order for them to go forward? T - Just make an announcement like he did at 12:02 AM EST, but make it in a different way. Let's just say he has to make an announcement.

T - $36.86 (IQN), over $6 (VNN), $1.08 and .22.

C - How strong do you feel about it? T - I don't and can't feel strong about it. I can only tell you what is being discussed and being planned right now. But I don't know what will happen tonight or tomorrow to change what I've heard.

C - Someone on your Forum said it's Thursday to Sunday and if it doesn't happen by then it will be next Thursday to Sunday. Seems so rigid. T - I don't know anyone who would say M-F, and it if doesn't happen, etc. We are part of the process and not just guessing. Rates have gone up due to penalities for delays, etc.

C - What is the .22 for? T – ZIM

C - Now that the Forum is down, will we go straight to the new website? T - I can't even edit it myself. We'll have to look at the other sites and get it moved over. We're working with what we can to get this going. If I can get another server we will. Right now we have 100 people carrying 20K people.

C - It looks like Thursday is the end of the trail and that November is critical for the USA and the rest of the world. T - I don't know. They've said this so many times but he called their bluff. What they're doing is clearly not working. I can't say it's a hard and fast date. But does it look good? Yes. Do they have a plan for that? Yes. It does look good, so let's hope this is it.

C - Why do you think they would let him return to Iraq to make an announcement rather than make it here? T - I actually could give you an answer but I'm not sure I can. Let me try this: there were some things that needed to be corrected before the announcement was made, for it to go right and for some trusts to be built. Once those are done the announcement could be made. Some of those things were done but the announcement was made in a different way.

C - You said the ZIM was be at .22. Are they taking off 6 zeros? T - Yes, Everything is adjusting so I guess it has to as well.

T - We're been on now for 2 hours and it's been a long, long day. I can't believe the audacity of the people (in Reno) and can't believe the peopel who fell for it. I felt sorry for them. I told them if it didn't turn out right I would expose them to 50K people tonight and I did. Regarding the Forum, we're working to put it back up as fast as we can. As far as the RV, it could be tonight, tomorrow or the night after. People at every level here in the US were upset that it didn't go today. Their plans changed like our and we could see it at any moment now. Enjoy the rest of your night and hopefully we'll get some good news tomorrow.

END OF CALL.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 4 NOV

11-4-2013   Intel Guru Delta   URGENT FROM IRAQIA TV:  IRAQI PARLIAMENT APPROVE THE ELECTION LAW. THE ELECTION WILL BE ON 4/2014.
     
11-4-2013   Intel Guru Loechin   As of right now we simply are waiting for Iraq to tell it and they deserve that right. As far as the rates...we are in the $30 plus range. I encourage you to stay in the game and see what happens in the next few days. I believe we are within several days of our event.

11-4-2013   Newshound Guru Administrator Bob   This past weekend was filled with good articles supporting the transition to a free market economy.  Today, Parliament passed the heavily contested Election Law.

11-4-2013   Newshound Guru Doc   The reason for Maliki's short trip will only be know in due time.  Our speculation is he did get his tail handed to him but most probably due to lack of progress in meeting timelines as related to the Strategic Framework Agreement and his friendliness toward Iran.  As we have suggested over the years progress in Iraq is 2 steps forward, one step back. Unfortunately the one thing that is vividly glaring as too slow is political stability.  Several articles pointed this out and directly blamed in on Maliki's lack of support for implementing the power sharing arrangements he has at least publicly supported.  We can speculate that Washington told him to meet his timelines and his obligations or the US will not support his presidency.  [post 2 of 2]

11-4-2013   Newshound Guru Doc   As predicted Nov 1 came and went with no fan fare.  We warn all that you will see many rumors that the shorter than planned trip to the US by Maliki is due to him rushing back to Iraq with his tail between his legs to announce the RV.  This true will prove false and, in general, our opinion holds that there will be no substantial currency move in the immediate term.  We continue with our conclusion that the month of November will pass with no fan fare.  Our conclusions continue to be based on the facts that there is no creditable public or private sources confirming an immediate RV and simply Iraq's infrastructure is not completely in place to support currency reform for the long haul.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

11-4-2013   Intel Guru EXOGEN   PER CONVERSATION WITH A PERSON TIED DIRECTLY TO AOP, LOOK FOR MAJOR E.M. MOVEMENTS SOON (AoP=Authors of Plan, E.M= Emerging Markets).

11-4-2013   Newshound Guru Millionday   Quote:  "Counting banking expert application of the Basel banking standards in Iraq of the good things that push to achieve stability through the creation of fair competition between government and private banks through the services offered by these banks to citizens"  so it is now  they are applying it...and thats the news -- that my friends is what we had to have, no doubt in that.  nice time to move to the global market with total international banking regulation compliance...it appears they are preparing for just that -- the move to the market which takes their currency with it...sounds great.   [post 2 of 2]

11-4-2013   Newshound Guru Millionday   Article quote:  "implementation and adoption of international standards with regard to capital adequacy capital and liquidity ratio rate."   international standards means they are ready to go. Quote:  "Stressing that the banks do disclose risks to participants in the financial market and banking..."  financial market includes nasdaq forex etc -- currency market.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

11-4-20-13   Intel Guru Mnt Goat    Do not be so shocked about the nondisclosure agreement (NDA) you will have to sign. It is now part of this process to silence or tone down those who will partake in the rewards of this financial rewards. Remember...the US government decided not to fund the war by doing a massive US Bond drive. Instead they schemed the plan to use Exec Order 13303 to which in part allows average US citizens private ownership of the Iraq currency.  So this still is the plan to be used to pay for the war in Iraq and we are the so-called investors who supported this plan. We can  be proud of ourselves since we have been instrumental in helping millions of Iraq citizens survive the aftermath of the war and to help that country build up their CBI reserves for reconstruction. All they truly need now is to revalue the provisional currency...

11-4-2013   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG     4) Maliki's trip to DC got "mysteriously" cut short by a day. It was supposed to be 5 days and Maliki was called back by an emergency (we still haven't heard what that is)...let's give the "dissenters" here in the US a couple of days to write a few pieces...then give the Arabic feeds a couple of days to figure out what happened and "have at" Maliki for a couple of days. I think by about Wednesday we should have an idea of how badly things are going to get for Maliki.   I think this DC trip went about as good for us as it could have.  Hang in there...  [post 3 of 3]

11-4-2013   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    3) Maliki made quite a case for arms support from the US (based on faux terrorism fears). The US was supportive but not particularly forthcoming with public confirmations of any future weapons shipments. This is a problem for Maliki. Personally, I think he needed the US to fork over the weapons without the money. He has deals cooking with Russia, but I am not so sure he's got the money. Further - no one really believes he won't try to use these weapons on his own people (aka - terrorists).  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

11-4-2013   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    there seems to be a "significant divergence" of narratives on the situation in Iraq. On one side Maliki's Press Office seems to want to push the story of a "complete embrace" by Washington - However... On the other side there seems to be a very different perspective.  1) Maliki put out press that he was going to a meeting with President Obama and discuss the future of Iraq...In fact, he met with President Obama very little.  2) Upon hearing this narrative by Maliki, Vice President Biden immediately invited ALL the opposition leaders - not a good sign for Maliki to have a series of "negotiations" in DC followed immediately by a visit with all of your opposition members.    [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

11-4-2013   Newshound Guru Millionday   they have a deadline...[Sunday] ...deadline for election law to be done.  so they have two choices -- either work it out or take what has the most votes. they say it is absolute. so as you can see -- they are at the crunch  have to have it done.  infrastructure is going when they pass the election law -- the kurds said if they get what they want they will vote it through but we will see.

11-4-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    head lines looking good-----Iraq participates in 3rd round of WTO negotiations as a prelude to accession to the World Trade Organization (WTO) they are preparing for this coming week.  WTO REQUIRES A INTERNATIONAL TRADEABLE CURRENCY.  THAT MEANS A NEW RATE OR THE WORLD WILL BUY THEIR COUNTRY CHEAP. 

TNT CHAT WITH LOECHIN & SPGURU, 4 NOV

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[roadglide] loechin ...I saw that Exogen posted that congressmen and others have already exchanged...is there a chance that the rest of us could be bypassed?

 [loechin] roadglide We will get our turn

[Leoff] loechin - that sounds good for us correct! CL will push that button soon then...

[tidalwave] Loechin - IMF taken charge? Doesn't that mean a low rate?
[loechin] tidalwave Not as of right now

[Pam D.] Loechin - Did you receive word that it's today?

 [loechin] Pam D. No but it could happen anyday

[Normanross] Election law passed today

[TeddiB] Normanross where did you see that.

[Normanross] Delta said it

spguru] If it was me. I would stay calm and listen not chatter. Doesn't matter who said what at this point. Please just stay calm.

FRANK26 UPDATE, 4 NOV

11-3-2013 Intel Guru Frank26 ON MONDAY… I WILL INTRODUCE TO YOU A BRAND NEW ATTITUDE FROM WELLS FARGO. I HAVE AN 800# OF THEIRS THAT YOU CAN CALL WHERE THEY ASK YOU WHAT STATE YOU ARE FROM? THEN THEY GO ABOUT TELLING YOU WHERE YOU CAN GO AND EXCHANGE AT ANY FOREIGN CURRENCY CENTER OR BANK THAT THEY REPRESENT IN THE USA. THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT AS OF THIS COMING MONDAY THE 4TH THEY WILL EXCHANGE ALL FOREIGN CURRENCIES. SEASONS CHANGE WITH TIME. HEY WELLS FARGO IT’S ABOUT TIME.
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Here are some rough notes I took on the dinar portion of F26's Sunday night cc...
Go GOD!!!  Go RVVV!!!   Abundant blessings to all, S~  aka Feeling Blessed   :-)


F26 is saying that it's time to start a new chapter in our life.  He is opening up his mother's Bible that he hadn't opened up since she passed away 5+ years ago, and he got emotional.  He feels deep in his heart that we are being prepared to do great things for God.

F is going to start with our veterans, soldiers, handicapped, widows, widowers, buy debts to help people with their mortgages, etc.; go to the 4 corners of the world.
  F said how many times have we said that nobody likes Maliki.  Nobody wants to support him.  F is telling us, because O can't do anything with this blessing that is about to occur.  So O invited M over.

  O gave M a dirty look and M goes up to O and says he would like F16s, helicopters, tanks, drones, etc.  In the meantime, O is giving him a dirty look.

M asks him to support M running for a third term.  The next thing you know, O says (per F's dream on his blue couch)...O said, you want what?  Are you crazy?  Show me the money!

M said can we buy these things then?  O said no...hold on...here is what he thinks we are going to do.  We're going to tell you... (Not sure if he said these numbers as a date or what..I missed this part...17th, 18th, 19th)...you can have these things under one condition...that we drive them, we train them, we have control over them.

F says there is a lot more to this...he'll share on Monday's cc.  He believes we are very close.  He wants to tell us something.

If you did not read post #1 or post #2 from this week.  Understand the 6 month process up until May 2014.  What did Delta tell you about this coming out at a sucker bet?

If they come out at a 1 to 1, we'll be running over each other to get to the banks.

Countries around the world are using the IQD to support their currency or their country...like in federal reserves or currency back-ups.  They have a lot.

Do you think when the value goes up...let's say it goes up tomorrow, 1 to 1, do you think these countries are going to cash out the dinars they have on reserve?

 Light bulbs.  Why not, F asks.  Join us after our first hour of investment night on Monday night's cc, we will bring you dinar info starting in the 2nd hour.

O told M to get himself home quickly, to go int'l.  Monday we'll be talking about the WTO telling Iraq to hurry to get in there.

Also will talk about many banks are doing things that are going to surprise you.  We'll give you an 800 number of banks in the U.S. that have been a pain to you.

If you read post #2, did you read how F defined the election law?  Did he not say, maybe it could make it easier for the distribution of lower denoms for the citizens of Iraq?

Monday they'll talk about the citizens each getting a chunk of money.  Will also talk about key (Qi) cards.

Behind the mosque walls where they pray at 5:00 a.m., they have a leader announce things, and they are not going to tell you about what they hear, nor will they share it on the streets.  They will only share it privately.  F's teams will be able to share.

Do not be so much in a hurry over the next 6 months.  Understand what Delta told us about 1 to 1.  When are they going to come out with this?

F said he already told us it would be in the year 2013.  Deep in his heart, we need to start to get ready.

If it hasn't happened by Monday, F is going to start to tell people how to exchange their currencies.

Many of you are going to cash out their dinars right away.  See you on Monday at 7 p.m. Eastern Standard time.

EXOGEN POST: DIRECT INTEL 8:33 AM, 4 NOV

Stage2Omega: 

DIRECT INTEL 8:33 AM EST 

PER CONVERSATION WITH A PERSON TIED DIRECTLY

TO AOP, LOOK FOR MAJOR E.M. MOVEMENTS SOON.

EXO

(AoP=Authors of Plan, E.M= Emerging Markets)

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Stage2Omega:

THE REALITY OF THE EXCHANGE YOU DO NOT KNOW!!!!

1. POLITICIANS HAVE EXCHANGED

2. SOVEREIGN ENTITIES HAVE EXCHANGED

3. BANK EXECUTIVES HAVE EXCHANGED

4. HIGH RANKING MILITARY OFFICIALS HAVE EXCHANGED

5. ARE TAKING PLACE DAILY

6. WHALES HAVE EXCHANGED

7. PTB & INSIDERS EXCHANGE DAILY

8. POLITICIANS WHO HAVE NOT EXCHANGED ARE UPSET

9. PEOPLE IN CONGRESS HAVE EXCHANGED

10. THE RATES GO LIVE FOR PRIVATE EXCHANGES DAILY

11. TO 70% OF THE THE LARGE NOTES IN USA HAVE ALREADY BEEN EXCHANGED

12. BANKS ARE DOING PRIVATE EXCHANGES DAILY FOR SELECT PEOPLE