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Monday, October 28, 2013

TK POST,28 OCTOBER

10-28-2013   Intel Guru TerryK    HEARING THAT IRAQ SIGNED OFF ON EVERYTHING... SET TO GO AND WAS IN THE PAPER GAZETTE SATURDAY NIGHT.  THIS WAS TO GO DOWN FRIDAY IS WHAT I WAS TOLD.  SO WHAT I GOT WHEN ALL THE BANKS SYNC TOMORROW NIGHT WE SHOULD SEE IT HAPPEN.

SPGURU CHAT , 28 OCTOBER

hi! Are we still sitting at the 2 minute mark? Or is it "Overtime"? (rofl) 

[spguru]: 1 min to go 

spguru: No more bad guys and can't keep it from you 

spguru: dont worry about details only on game over 

[Lyinca]: spguru Delta says his Canadian banker friend is seeing the lower denoms in the catalog now...can you confirm ? 

[spguru]: Lyinca can confirm!

[spguru] Everyone knows it is done just waiting on it to show here for you guys.

[spguru]  Listen to Tony

[Mya] spguru, Tony said looking for it tonight.... ???? Do you agree. . Thumbs up thumbs up?

[spguru] I agree

[spguru] chillimac,  I know this longer this goes,  even those that doubt will see and i know some is out there already. There are reasons friends and family on here.

Chillimac]  cant wait for the morning sunrise waaa hooo

[spguru]: me either

[spguru] No rates please you will be happy if we got a field goal and maybe safety

[Startnow] Do you agree with Tonys intel?

[spguru] YES!

[spguru] startnow:   No one needs to stay up unless they want to because it will be there for everyone no panic

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This was hard to capture because the room was going so fast !!  

Have an awesome night, everyone!!

TONY BLAST, 28 OCTOBER

11:33 PM EST

Ok everyone the thing I didn't want to tell you on the call this morning is ................

The lower denoms are now listed and available for you to see in the banks foreign currency catalog that is to be effective 1 Nov 2013.

Please don't bother the banks.  This is why I didn't tell you this morning.

The RV is on the way.........closer than you think.......

TNTDinar
Tony

TNT CHAT WITH SPGURU, 28 OCTOBER

TNT:

Harleyman-4ever:  10-28-2013 Intel Guru Bluwolf My CEO Canadian Bank friend just called me and informs me that the lower demons appearing in the banking catalog are circulating in Iraq as well as in other countries, listen folks all this implies is that a rv is imminent asn."

[Gstealth7] For those of you who are in doubt of this happening, think about why would the Three letter agencies be screening cc and etc??? Just a thought...

[spguru] Everyone knows it is done just waiting on it to show here for you guys.

 [Mya] Spguru. Tony said looking for it tonight.... ???? Do you agree. :). Thumbs up thumbs down?

 [spguru] Mya agree

trigger: spguru hi! Are we still sitting at the 2 minute mark? Or is it "Overtime"? 
spguru: 1min to go

spguru: No more bad guys and can't keep it from you

spguru: dont worry about details only on game over

1yinca: spguru Delta says his Canadian banker friend is seeing the lower denoms in the catalog now...can you confirm

spguru: 1yinca can confirm

[spguru] seems to be calm in here and people must have seen the light and things look good again sorry about friday it wasnt me but i didnt see it coming and really want this for all of you

OKIEOILMAN POST, 28 OCTOBER

[OkieOilMan] GOOD MONDAY AFTERNOON AMERICA, SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR WORLD WIDE FRIENDS. WELL AS I STATED ON YESTERDAY'S POST THIS SHOULD BE A VERY PRODUCTIVE WEEK.

 SEVERAL MOVEMENTS REGARDING OUR BLESSING IS FINALLY COMING TO LIGHT. THE LOWER DENOMS ARE NOW IN CIRCULATION AND IRAQ HAS AN INTERNATIONAL ACCEPTED CURRIENCY IN AT LEAST 6 COUNTRIES.

THEY HAVE MADE THEIR ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THE UMTEENTH TIME TO THEIR CITIZENS ABOUT THE RE-EVALUATION OF THEIR CURRENCY.

I HAVE OIL FIELD PERSONEL CONTACTS THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID AT THE ESCALATED RATE OF OVER 27 DOLLARS.

THE DIGNATARIES FROM SEVERAL COUNTRIES INVOLVED HAS TAKEN PLACE IN D.C. AND THEY HAVE FINALLY WORKED OUT THE FINAL ARRANGEMENTS CONDUSIVE TO THEIR BENEFIT. 
THIS DELAY HAS AND IS BENEFICIAL TO US BECAUSE THE DELAY HAS HAD A DIRECT RELATIONSHIP TO THE FINAL RATE, WHICH IS MUCH HIGHER THAN ANTICIPATED. IN OTHER WORDS----YOU HAVE MADE MONEY AND ARE UNAWARE OF IT.

THIS DELAY WILL PROVE TO BE WORTH THE WAIT.

I SEE THE FED MEETING IS TOMMOROW AND WEDNESDAY CONCERNING THE QUANITIVE EASING AND THE TAPERING OF THE FED'S PRINTING OF ADDITIONAL CURRENCY. THIS MAY ALSO BE AN INDICATOR OR PROJECTION OF WHAT WE EXPECT PRIOR (PRIOR AT THE PRESENT TIME) TO OUR R/V.

GET YOUR PLANS SOLIDIFIED AND WRITE DOWN THE NECESSARY STEPS YOU ANTICIPATE TAKEN WHEN THE FINAL NOTICE IS GIVEN.---

I AM AWAITING THE RELEASE OF THE 800 NUMBERS AS WELL AS THE NOTIFICATION OF THE FINALITY OF THIS PROJECT.

THE 1ST OF NOVEMBER IS THE START OF IRAQ'S NEW 10 YEAR PLAN OF PROGRESS TOWARD THE NEW STEPS TO BE TAKEN IN IRAQ CONCERNING THEIR FUTURE PROJECTION OF THE COUNTRY'S ADVANCEMENT AND THEIR GOAL'S FOR THEIR COUNTRY. -----

MORE TO FOLLOW AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE-------BLESSINGS GALORE

EXOGEN UPDATE, 28 OCTOBER

1. THE BANKER WILL GIVE YOU THE CERTIFIED CHECKS AT EXCHANGE
2. IF YOU HAVE LOANS CALL THE LOAN COMPANY AND GET PAYOFFS IMMEDIATLEY

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 28 OCTOBER

10-28-2013   Intel Guru  Bluwolf    My CEO Canadian Bank friend just called me and informs me that the lower demons appearing in the banking catalog are circulating in Iraq as well as in other countries, listen folks all this implies is that a rv is imminent asn. 
10-28-2013   Intel Guru TNT Tony    [Will rates go down on Nov. 1?]    It might, but I don't think so. I don't know what the time frame is. They wanted to do at least 4 days at that stable rate, then let the market determine the rate. But something else happened last week - the rate changed when that was part of the margin they left in there. It changed significantly on Friday and you guys will benefit from that. I've been saying just over $30.  [Is this IQD rate above $31?]  Yes, it's not $33 but over $31. With so many things being made public about 11/01, you should be getting ready. The 1st is not that far off.  You should be ecstatic - the plan is there - the announcement is scripted out - there is light at the end of this tunnel!   [post 3 of 3]

10-28-2013   Intel Guru TNT Tony     Somebody asked...about the high rate. That high rate is YOUR rate, and is the same rate you're going to get. They can't give it to some and not to everybody. The high rate is your rate - not some formula. Our 30 days is still our 30 days. They were going to have 10 days over there and we get 30 days. Their 10 days ends on Friday. We've known this since last Wednesday - people have been notified that Friday is the last day and that there will be a rate change effective that day if not before. But that is the cut-off day.  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

10-28-2013   Intel Guru TNT Tony   [via FlPatriot59]   A whole lot happened over the weekend. I'm going to make it short and sweet. It's complete. The announcement is set up. It could happen any moment, but not today as bank personnel are not in position. They won't be in position until late tonight. So don't expect anything until then.  What you should be excited about is that, as I told you about the 1st, there is more info coming out of Kirkuk, Iraq. They've already notified them that the 3-zero notes will not be accepted inside Iraq after Nov. 1.  Not only that, the LDs have gone public.   [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

10-28-2013   Intel Guru EXOGEN   THE FAT LADY IS NOW SINGING...PREPARE FOR THE LIFE CHANGING EVENT THIS WEEK!!!

10-28-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   very possible scenario that maliki WILL not depart for AMERICAN SOIL until the election vote is solved wed. He will want to know for sure his election status before he comes and meets with o. I have said this before but again after THE REPORT AGAIN THIS MORNING THAT NAJAFI SAYING AGAIN THAT THEY WILL COMPLETE THE ELECTION LAWS THIS WEDNESDAY SO HE WILL FIND A WAY TO DELAY THE TRIP. HE IS ALSO GOING TO NEED SOMETHING TO DEAL WITH o and BIDEN BESIDES MORE PROMISES. Biden has said Maliki has failed over and over. 

10-28-2013   Intel Guru Loechin   As I have said in times past a certain someone was getting dealt with. I am amazed still at the way people want to control things who have no control. If all goes according to plan then we will be in the banks this week sometime. As of right now the ceiling rate if you dare is set again but watch out for the traps.

10-28-2013   Newshound Guru tim724   Iraq is just now getting this system in place. They must be linked with their customs and when the tariffs are fully implemented they must be linked to the CBI, again for ACCOUNTABILITY!Remember Dr. Shabibi said he needed stability and security in order to make the change? Well imo security means this: A secure system that enables full accounting of ALL monetary transactions within the country as well as international transactions ! The stability falls within this same premise, a secure system that eliminates fraud, waste and corruption...Governor Turki has said they are making great progress with it.  I just don't see how the CBI can do an increase without this system in place.  [post 2 of 2]

10-28-2013   Newshound Guru tim724   The question has always been, why hasn't Iraq RV'd their currency? After much thought I have formed an opinion...The answer is so simple...In order for Iraq to fully deal in their own currency they have to be electronically linked both in country and throughout the world!  Electronic Banking is absolutely necessary for Iraq to progress forward. How can the CBI raise the value of their currency without accountability?   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

10-28-2013   Intel Guru Delta   THE TRADE AND INVESTMENT FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT BETWEEN US AND IRAQ (TIFA)  WAS APPROVED BY IRAQI PARLIAMENT ON 12/2012. BUT IT WAS NOT PUBLISHED ON THE GAZETTE UNTIL 10/26/2013. SO THEY HAD TO WAIT ABOUT 10 MONTH TO PUBLISH IT. SO NOW AS OF 10/26/2013 THIS LAW IS IN EFFECT.  WE ARE EXPECTING THE GOV OF CBI "TURKI" TO GET BACK TO IRAQ TODAY. IT'S A HIGH POSSIBILITY THAT WE SHOULD SEE SOME KIND OF ANNOUNCEMENT THIS WEEK. 

10-28-2013   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    [Are the call in centers or cash out centers manned?]  MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ON CONSTANT CALL FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION.  [Do you feel that Monday is our day for the release of our blessing?]  THIS COMING WEEK HOLDS GREAT PROMISE.  [post 2 of 2]

10-28-2013   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   [Do you feel that Nov 1st is our date for this blessing?]   IT APPEARS BEFORE THAT DATE.  [with all the double digit talk and now single digits again for the iqn...what is your opinion as to what we can expect for rates on the iqn and vnn THE ONLY SURE WAY IS WHEN YOU GO TO THE BANK---THERE A LOT OF CONFUSING RATES BEING PUBLISHED (SOME ARE TRUE THOUGH).  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

10-28-2013   Newshound Guru Doc   This is why it is most probable reform will come in the form of some type of float to allow the currency to appreciate as the economic output of the country increases over time.  We do not rule out  some type of RV first but anticipate it to be in the order of a few cents or 10s of cents and not $3+ or higher.  Overall progress continues.  The rumored high rates and immediate implementation are false.  There is no credible public or private sources to support it.   Supported information indicates late this year into next year at the earliest.  However, things are progressing forward.  We report, you decide.   [post 4 of 4]

10-28-2013   Newshound Guru Doc   When considering the date and rate one must keep the overall goal in mind.  First the goal is for a stable currency over the long term.  Secondly it needs to be fundamentally strong. The first goal is accomplished by having infrastructure laws in place and functioning.  They include those dealing with banking, tariffs, investment, etc.  They include theEconomic Reform Act and HCl.  Without these any currency reform would fail.  Secondly, to be strong, it must be implemented within proven macroeconomic principles.  This is why the rumored high rates are preposterous.  They would destroy Iraq economically.  [post 3 of 4....stay tuned]

10-28-2013   Newshound Guru Doc   We are also encouraged by the recent visits of Maliki and such to various governments especially the USA.  Before we go further we must say here that Maliki does not need an RV for this visit.  We have to remember just a few short months ago the US was publicly denouncing support for Maliki.  We believe this to be due to his friendliness with Iran and his dragging his feet around implementation of the Strategic Framework agreement.  We have to also remember he is running for reelection and needs all the friends he can get.  His visit to the US is simply to give a status report around implementation of the framework and to get reassurance of US support going forward.  However, this we believe is very good.  It should help accelerate the timeline toward currency reform.  With the election in April we are hopeful the initial float will have begun before then.  [post 2 of 4....stay tuned]

10-28-2013   Newshound Guru Doc   We are closing out October with much the same status as we started.  The news has focused on some progress specifically passage of the Economic Reform Law by the CoM.  This is indeed great to see.  We still must exercise patience in that it is not law as of now.  It still must go through parliament which we believe will not addressed until December.  The HCL has been in the news but again most likely will not be addressed until December.  With this the key infrastructure will not be in place "at any moment" and therefore 
our opinion remains that currency reform will not occur in the short term.  These laws are not official until you see them in the Gazette period. 

BLUWOLF POST, 28 OCTOBER

10/28/13 Bluwolf: My CEO Canadian Bank friend just called me and informs me that the lower demons appearing in the banking catalog are circulating in Iraq as well as in other countries, listen folks all this implies is that a rv is imminent asn. Blu

TONY CC RECORDED LINK & NOTES, 28 OCTOBER

REPLAY   805-399-1500    409029#

BlogTalkRadio RECORDED LINK

Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U:

[FLPatriot59] TNT CALL - T= Tony | C = Caller TREAT ALL AS RUMOR UNTIL YOU HAVE LEFT THE BANK WITH YOUR RECEIPT SHOWING YOU ARE A GAZILLIONAIRE.

TONY:Good morning, TNT! It's Monday, October 28, 2013 at 1:05 PM EDT. It's a great, great day. I'm glad we got everybody here. A whole lot happened over the weekend. I'm going to make it short and sweet. It's complete. The announcement is set up. It could happen any moment, but not today as bank personnnel are not in position. They won't be in position until late tonight. So don't expect anything until there.
T - What you should be excited about is that, as I told you about the 1st, there is more info coming out of Kirkuk, Iraq. They've already notified them that the 3-zero notes will not be accepted after Nov. 1. Even if I could tell you the exact moment it's not going to happen, it won't matter based on what I just told you. I can verify this but if I told you wyoul'd do what I asked you not to do. Not only that, the LDs have gone public.

T - I got excited and I know I can see them. Take my word for it. They are viewable here in the USA - you don't have to go over there to see them. By the 1st you should be able to see them for yourself. If they don't tell you where, I will on Friday.

T - Somebody asked in the Forum about the high rate. That high rate is YOUR rate, and is the same rate you're going to get. They can't give it to some and not to everybody. The high rate is your rate - not some formula. Our 30 days is still our 30 days. They were going to have 10 days over there and we get 30 days. Their 10 days ends on Friday. We've known this since last Wednesday - people have been notified that Friday is the last day and that there will be a rate change effective that day if not before. But that is the cut-off day.

T - The could have 72 hours to exchange if the rate goes live tonight or tomorrow. But something is going to change on the 1st one way or another. All agreements are in place, and that's why all was quiet over the weekend. At this point it really doesn't matter who's in charge. We did get it down to one person and they were penalized as we were when we held it up. There is now a work-around for any problems and we have come down to the final day. We just don't know the time. You should be ecstatic - the plan is there - the announcement is scripted out - there is light at the end of this tunnel!

Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM NOW....


Q - Will rates go down on Nov. 1? A - It might, but I don't think so. I don't know what the timeframe is. They wanted to do at least 4 days at that stable rate, then let the market determine the rate. But something else happened last week - the rate changed when that was part of the margin they left in there. It changed significantly on Friday and you guys will benefit from that. I've been saying just over $30.

Q - Last Friday is was scheduled to go and we're in the same situation. A - It is expected to happen between now and Friday but I expect it between now and tomorrow.

Q - What are the multiplier rates? Do they apply? A – Nope

Q - Do we have to negotiate it up from $3.25? T - It coming out at a low rate is not a concern for us. Banks, at every level, have the rate and they have been paying out at that high rate for maybe 23 days now.

Q - Has the VND been affected by any rate change? A - Nope

T - There is a ceiling rate and we are pretty close to it. I don't know it would go any higher for us, but it might on the open market.

Q - Will the VND go up or can we negotiate it? A - At the rates they are, a year ago we were debating .05 with somebody. We thought the world would explode if it came out higher. And now it's at $3.84 and you want to negotiate a higher rate and take a chance? That's up to you.

Q - What rate will be better between dealers and banks? Okie said "bank, bank, bank." What about security? A - I don't know if that's correct or not because no one knows the rates. And there won't be any security other than what is at the actual locations (banks and dealers).

Q - When we call the 800# to schedule an appointment, do we subtract the $25K note we CE early? A - Yes.

*CLARIFICATION - Nobody knows the "DEALER" rates.

Q - What about the deletion of the 3 zeros. Isn't that a LOP? A - Their ministers (Iraq) will be explaining everything to them on TV, radio, etc. It won't have anything to do with us. We will still be turning in our notes and getting the value for them.

Q - Forms of ID? A - Passport, DL, credit card statement. If you're going to use a new email be sure to set it up before your appointment phone call.

Q - What does the NDA cover? A - You, your attorney, CPA, etc. I would make a list of exceptions for all my people to sign so they will not talk about this. That way HS can't go after them.

Q - What about Canada rates? A - I don't know about procedures for CE in Canada. We have an international area on the Forum so you can talk about this. Someone should have, by this time, contacted banks and ask about their procedures. I would do this today!

Q - If the site closes down post-RV and an NDA is in effect, how can we get phone numbers and rates? A - I don't know. I think we will put rates - those are public. I'm going to make sure I get clarification about this and not take any chances. We may have to change the site to an investment site, millionaires club, etc. as long as we don't talk about the dinar.

T - The new rate at $27.87 is something you should not need to negotiate it at all. You'll be able to check any bank's rates from their website and verify the rate. If I didn't know anymore than I know, I'd take my money and run! Everybody from WS investors to regular bank guys, etc. are saying they're not taking any chances and gambling on the rate. It's an opportunity of a lifetime - the traps aren't worth it if you don't know what you're doing. I'm exchanging then I'm gone!

Q - Is Mrs. Renfrow still jumping up and down? A - Not today but she was on Friday. She doesn't want to hear it anymore - she says "just tell me when we're headed to the bank."

"LIVE" Q&A CALLS STARTING NOW. C = CALLER | T – TONY

C - You told us $30+ and I'm wondering is it like .25 above, etc.? T - It's more than that. I'm waiting for somebody to put it on the boards. I'm feeling really go about it tomorrow. It'll be here by the 1st.

C - When you call for your appointment, do you include your reserves? T - Yes, include the reserves. C - Rates at dealers? T - I think it'll be the market rate and it seems like it would be unfair to them if not. It would be them out of business. I expect them to be competitive. It makes sense for the gov't to allow them to complete so it can be done within 4 days. That way they only have to deal with wire transfers and you won't have to go anywhere.

C - Is this actually about the 5-year plan that expires on 10/31? T - It would actually be a 10-year plan and the new one starts on the 1st. Let me clarify this, since some will say you knew this timeframe all along: what we know is that all the new agreements start on the 1st. The RV should have happened years ago. The next 10 years plan starts on the 1st.

C - Are there other currencies that are good lateral moves? T - No, I will afterwards for special family members minur all the people we kick out. LOL.

C - Will we get a copy of the NDA when we leave the appointment? Since that doc tells the whole story. T - Well somebody walked out with it or I would not have it. I have not heard what our line is to say. It's not in the current NDA. NDAs are primarily for sophisticated investors, so that's why it's up to us to educate people we have given this money to. It's on us to drill the importance of the NDA into those people.

C - Are you seeing any upward movement for the VND, ZIM, etc.? T - I have not heard anything about them.

C - Are you having a meeting anywhere besides Vegas? T - I'll be meeting with people in Atlanta while I'm there. I'll do something in NC when I go home. And I'll do something here in Sacramento. I will do those 3 prior to Vegas and will post that info on the boards.

C - Is this IQD rate above $31? T - yes, it's not $33 but over $31.

C - I'm more confused than before I started after listening to this call. I will take the $27.87 so fast it will create a vacuum. T - It's not worth negotiating - it's a trap. Take the rate they give you!

C - Frank at Sterling Currency said he would lock in rates until our appointment. Would Frank continue to honor agreements that rate? T - I can't say that for him. my belief is YES. it's a live rate if the banks shut down for some reason. Does not shut down his business. He will make appointments as fast as he can but he can always wire the funds to you. Even if the rate changes, you will get the current rate at the time of your appointment.

T - Banks will give you the rate AT THE TIME OF YOUR APPOINTMENT. Sterling/DB says they will lock in your rate when you make your appointment with them, even if it changes.

C - Will this be chaotic? T - If everybody helps and tells all their people the process, the procedures, how to act in the bank, etc. just follow things, everybody gets paid. They think there are 4M people with less than a million dinar. If they start acting like fools it'll shut it down. I'm having a meeting with 40 people in a room and tell them how to act and everything before they get their money. You can go to www.freeconferencecall.com - it won't cost you anything - and have your own call with your people.

C - Will there be enough PBs for us all? T - They've changed the levels of who gets a PB and who gets a WM. Some millionaires will be like everyday citizens. You'll get somebody to work with you but it may not be a wealth manager. You'll get an account manager, possibly not a wealth manager.

C - At the appointment, will we be able to walk out with a black card? T - Not at every location. Most will already have an account and they'll have you use that. They will give you checks and cashier's check, just to get money into people's hands as fast as they can.

C - With Turki landing in Iraq today, according to Delta, is that a big deal? T - The 3-zero notes will not be honored as 3-zero notes. A $25K note will be a $25 note. The lower denoms will be in effect with a new rate.

C - Will the amount of VND we walk in influence the rate we get on that currency? T - The rate could change the very next day. If it's on Forex yes. It's already tradeable internationally. If all are turning it in and no one is buying it, it will go down. But we think there will be others buying it too.

HOLD FOR TONY BREAK....

C - Looks like the "Price is Right" between the $31 and $32. Sounds like you're completely dispelling the multiplier theory. T - We know we have only 30 days and this isn't the real rate forever. We have a 30-day Cashout period. Even when the rate drops down to its bottom rate it'll be over $4. It's just a matter of how fast we get to it and CE.

C -Some have struggled with that rate but you've said it has something to do with oil credits. T - yes, and agreements we don't see. That $310T didn't just come out of thin air. This is about money to some countries, survival for others. It's too much for some to even consider. We're talking about digital and creating a value for money for what we operate on. The backing for this new currency is being created - it's a global reset - and they're going to tell us how to define it. The rates are there for a period of time to reach their goals for that period then it will drop down to the rate they really need it to be at in order for the GCR to work.

C - As of Saturday, the TIFA was approved and published. A hold-up in Iraq was electonic banking. T - On Friday we were notified that their currency was international and announced in their mosques. As of Nov. 1 the 3-zero notes won't be accepted. Now things are actually being made public.

C - How will we get the 800#s? T - I will post them as soon as I get them. I don't even know how I'm getting them but they keep telling me I'll get them. We'll post them on the home page of the website, they'll be in the Forum, and I'll do a Tony Blast.

C - I have a group of 26-27 people. Can I negotiate the spread for the group at my appointment? T - If you're walking in with $25K or less they won't negotiate with you. If you have more than that you have to go in as individuals. They are not accepting groups. Of course, if you want to go to 26 different appointments with your people and negotiate for them, you can try. They have been instructed to make you happy and not let you leave with your money. That should give you enough to fight with right there.

C - Can we take a lawyer with us? I'm dyslexic and can't read contracts. T - Yes, I would definitely take one with you.

C - Can this go past the 1st? T - I don't think it can. It is completely done. They've worked out all the problems. The speech is scheduled. It has been authorized. We just have to wait and see what time they do it.

C - Who is set to make that speech? T - I'm not sure I can say it. C - You mentioned it won't happen today since the bank personnel aren't in place, but will be in place late tonight. When is "late tonight?" T - They don't have to be there for this to happen, but they're on stand-by between 3-4PM EDT. Before they had them come in first, but it's not a requirement. They're not on call, not on standby, etc. right now. If they get put on standby I'll let you know. I always believed it would happen between and 2-5AM EDT. That has been a time we have always looked for it and when it has been scheduled . It always circulates around the 9-10AM and 3-5PM EDT timeframes.

C - You feel confident it won't go past the 1st? T - I feel real good about it because of the info I've received. I just can't see them, after Friday, saying they can't accept 3-zero notes then say they're still good after they've turned them in. All the dates around the world are saying effective Nov. 1.

T - To go back and say we had to undo it would be embarrassing on a global scale, but nothing is impossible.

C - Is the CE of the 1st $25K note a WF policy or a UST policy? T - Every bank should be accepting the $25K. Every bank has the option to take more than that. If you have 2 notes, or only $80K, etc., then they can opt to go ahead and CE it. You also have the option to take a $25K not to each bank. C - Can you go to 1 WF branch and CE and to another WF in another state? T - Not sure about that. Not sure if you can go to branches of the same bank. Separate banks, yes.

TEXT FROM PAM: "Please tell Tony to say the IRS is alive and kicking." T - I can't believe anyone with common sense would think the IRS is gone. Why would someone believe that and no taxes anymore. Some folks were saying there would be new UST notes. Where are they? They said Bush, Biden, Clinton, et. al., would be arrested. Why would any adult believe this mess?

C - What types of ID do we need? T - Usually when people ask you for 2 types of ID to open an account what do you give them? You can give your DL, passport, birth certificate, etc.

C - Is the IQN international now? T - They are telling their people it is now international and six countries where they can use their cards as of Saturday. There is proof of it here in the USA but I just can't tell you right now.

C - Are we going to have time to deal with layaways in that 1st 54 days? T - I didn't say you are limited to 4 days. It's supposed to be a 30-day process. You can go to 4 different banks - not branches of the same bank - and exchange $25K notes. It will be up to each branch if you can CE more than one note at each branch. There will be a gradual downturn of the rate, not a big drop from $30 to $4.

C - I live in FL and you mentioned you had a list of locations. Is there anything in Orlando? T - I said I have a list for MY locations.

C - Is the ZIM the $100T AA Series? T - I heard it's the $100T AA Series and it has dropped from .89 to .22. I don't know if they're dropping 6 or 9 zeros.

 [FLPatriot59] NOTE: I'm not transcribing repeat questions.

C - If I sign an NDA first at the appointment, won't my attorney have to sign one as well after the fact? T - The one you will sign includes your attorney, but have him sign a separate one as well. You can make up or find your own for your attorney to sign. Use the one you sign at the bank - change the names - as a template for the one you'll give your attorney.

C - How will the CBI show $32 and not have the ME go up in flames? T - It might, but will be for a short time. Look at it this way: you're an Iraqi citizen and my dollar is worth $32 of theirs. Why would I get made at that? The only ones who need to be concerned about it is people who travel there and pay $32 for one dollar and then try and buy something over there.

[FLPatriot59] *CLARIFICATION: Might show that high on the CBI...NOT the ME go up in flames.

C - What rate did the whales get that cashed out this past weekend? T - I won't give you that but it's more than $27.87. And $33 is not the ceiling.

C - You said something about reserves out of state, needing to be before Friday for high rate, etc. I'm confused. T - I didn't say the high rate last until Friday. I don't know how long it will last. I said you can call the dealer and arrange for him to come to you or you can go online, place a sell-order and have them wire the funds to your bank (if his rates are competitive). Or you can choose to sell it and set your appointment 15-20 days out. That locks in your appointment. No restrictions there. Will he ship it to you? Yes he will. If the rate is competitive the option is there for you to CE with the dealer and have them wire the funds to your bank account.

C - What did you say about Friday? T - In Iraq they have been notified that the 3-zero notes will no longer be accepted there as 3-zero notes. That does NOT apply to us.

T - We're here' we're here we're here but I don't know when. With all the frustration from Friday, that has been resolved over the weekend. The speeches are written and announcements are prepared. It has all been released to 1 person for this to go at this point. With so many things being made public about 11/01, you should be getting ready. The 1st is not that far off. If something happens I'll do a blast. Enjoy your day!

 END OF CALL.

LOECHIN & SPGURU CHAT FROM TNT FORUM, 28 OCTOBER

daz] its going to be a potentially challenging day here in chat at least for a few hours. We, the tempered and seasoned, must take the high road and embrace those less prepared and, ignore those with intentions to project their fears and shallow understandings of the process we are in, they are without a social filter and we must remain diligent and strong in the face of distractors. We will stand together ...be kind and gentle even if they are not...we all get to the same finish line together

[loechin] As I have said in times past a certain someone was getting dealt with. I am amazed still at the way people want to control things who have no control. If all goes according to plan then we will be in the banks this week sometime. As of right now the ceiling rate if you dare is set again but watch out for the traps. You may want to take the rate offered get your money and run pay the 11% and be done with it.

[rich17] loechin Are we back to looking at "this week sometime" rather than days or hours? I mean no disrespect, but has something slowed it down again?
[loechin] rich17 I'm just being cautious

[RockingTheFreeWorld] loechin sure hope so and soon lol

[spguru] Friday I was shocked things didn't happen. I was told to change my approach. Which I did. Football is now theme. I spoke of 2 min warning. Okie landing in dark. Believe me it will prove to be spot on.

People not friends make it hard for others. Not worried as I am not hiding who I am.

It makes me sick to see some in here to say something's about anyone in a negative way. I will go about the work that needs to be done. Pay it forward and no one can change my plan period

ryan31] people....perhaps the "amount" of time on the clock is not the important thing.....maybe we missed the point. i think the point is it is close......hold tight.....it is coming......it is close......be ready......

Spguru: Finally!

 [normanross] spguru maybe okie lands tonight when its dark?

[Pam D.] spguru ...........thank you for coming back in . This is a huge event. There have and are 'dark' forces at work trying to stop it.

TK CHAT, 28 OCTOBER

[TERRYK] MORNING ALL
[TERRYK] WHAT?S GOING ON
[TERRYK] WHERE IS THIS DARN RV
[TERRYK] HEY ZIG
[TERRYK] TEDDY
[TERRYK] MIKE
[TERRYK] BEACH
[TERRYK] PRECIOUS
[TERRYK] LEO
[TERRYK] AND PEEPS
[TERRYK] IM CONFUSED
[TERRYK] THIS WAS TO BE RELEASED FRIDAY
[TERRYK] AND WE SEE IT SUNDAY NIGHT
[TERRYK] AND AT THE BANK TODAY
[TERRYK] BUT WHAT THE DOUBLE HOCKEY STICKS
[Precious] hear of any farm claims or PP going out?
[TERRYK] YEA HEARD THAT SATURDAY
[TERRYK] THAT'S A GREAT THING
[TERRYK] BUT HERE IS THE ISSUE WITH THAT 
[TERRYK] I HEARD THAT LIKE 8 MONTHS AGO
[TERRYK] THOSE WENT OUT
[TERRYK] BUT SAW THE ARTICLE SATURDAY
[TERRYK] SO I GUESS THAT MEANS ITS REAL RIGHT
[hopeful2&2] just heard on fox, they are expecting the dow to go over 16,000 this week
[Precious] wow
[TERRYK] BE RIGHT BACK
[TERRYK] CALL
[Precious] bring news

SPGURU CHAT, 28 OCTOBER

spguru) It is a great day of football.. TNT team looking great on field. More TD scoring all morning and big$$ for the team.. This is happening. End of game and believe the time is right .. Yes we r .. No overtime .. No sleep. Been on field first hand. Working... Oh u will, my order was complete and those that doubt well u might be on side line but you will get mop up time ..AB knows my schedule and u asked for proof I helped her with it. I am doing what I can and it is a beautiful day 
12:23 PM pt [spguru) AB share what u want. Time to eat. I am fine with it... We have a four TD lead. Other team ran out of time 12:41 PM [spguru) Everyone will be enlightened soon. Ce when u have time. 
[Jane) spguru How much time is left in the 4th qtr? 
[spguru) Under5
 [spguru) Rv done, plans need to be ready. 

Chilimama: It’s the great Pumpkin (RV)  Let us learn from Linus!http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xiSIQzwIPzQ#t=0

[rayren98] ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸❤¸¸.•*¨•*♫♪ $$ We're in the Money, we're in the Money! $$ ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸❤¸¸.•*¨•*♫♪ ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸❤¸¸.•*¨•*♫♪ I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it. I know, I know, I know I see an RV! …. A Sho-NUFF RV! ♪♫•*¨*•.¸¸❤¸¸.•*¨•*♫♪]

[spguru] Waiting for someone to share good news.

[spguru] 2 min warning now

spguru] This is first one I have given

[1yinca] spguru got it...we are almost finished

[spguru] Pay it forward. Please be smart this is what worries me that people don't under what it takes to get here and now it will change

[showmethemoney] spguru for the record there is 2- 2min warnings in a game..

[spguru] Well this 2 mins in 4th

[spguru] I am out can't stay on have to rest to help others tomorrow early

 [gnosis] For last 2 nights spguru has pointed towards late evening PT for the release of the 800's sounds like he's saying it again

[mailboxmoney] guys i think we are waiting for 2:00 a,m, thats the time we always look for and that is 2 hours away

spguru] I believe okie will be happy to see the lights of course he will be landing in dark. From what I know.  Spguru] It is now Monday it is time.

[ratjman] spguru Thank you so much i am so ready but very calm do not like drama just do it folks like you handle your regular business and hopefully everyone will not know anything is up unless you are a braggert type person who likes your business on the street.

[tdooly] blessings2u SPGURU said Okie will be landing in the DARK so YES, we should see Tony Blast before daybreak --- before 6 AM.

[greatdaynedinar] all the two minute warning means it's it's really really close to the end of the game. Another way of saying it's here SOON