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Sunday, September 29, 2013

12THMAN POST, 29 SEPTEMBER

12thman said:Please post alone: I just wanted to come in real quick and share what has been given to me as mid day today. Sorry for the late post on this info. 

I have returned from a very long yet productive weekend in Waco, Tx. I have received a call from the main HR saying that we still look good for Oct. 1st. 

He didn't give me to much info because he is waiting for his WF contacts to call him. Im in hopes he calls back this evening to let me know what he has found out. I will say he was excited about our chances. 

Now could it go past the 1st, yes it can ladies and gentelman. And, if it does, we all need to prepare our minds and hearts for the chance that it does. For many, being on this ride for so long, you probably will just shrug it off and say what's the next date.
But for many, the idea of another date to wait for is just to much to bear.

Therefore I say, seek The Lord now and ask Him to prepare your body, mind and heart if the ride continues. He is our strength when we are weak...our Hope when all has failed...we are close and with each new news tidbit or post from Okie etc, we see the puzzle coming together.

 Don't give up on the Father...He will bless us all soon and very x 8 soon. Ps...it's awesome how God sends fellow dinarians across my path. I had the opportunity and pleasure to meet a fellow believer and dinarian while at lunch in Waco. And your probably saying why is he telling us this...God has chosen each one of us to be a part of this great historical ride that will soon be over.

 He has a plan for each and everyone that will receive His heavenly blessing. It might be building a church, giving to the poor, feeding the hungry, taking care of our Vets, sending missionaries to foreign countries our going with me on a water well mission (Baylorman1).

But whatever it is, I pray you do what He calls you to do...that my friends is why we are to receive such wealth.

Not to buy the cars boats clothes etc...it's to do God's work to further His Kingsom.

OKIEOILMAN UPDATE, 29 SEPTEMBER

[..OkieOilMan] WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF POSSIBLE IMPLICATIONS RELEVENT TO THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION TO FUND THE GOVERMENT AND THE DEBATE ON A CLEAN BILL COMING OUT OF THE CONGRESS THAT IS PALATABLE TO THE SENATE. 

THE USA OFFICIALLY RUNS OUT OF MONEY ON OCT 17TH AND THE LAST TIME WE HAD A GOVERMENT SHUT DOWN WAS UNDER THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION FOR 17 DAYS.

 THERE SEEMS TO BE MORE CONTENTION AMONGST CONGRESS AND SENATE THAN THEY WERE THEN. IT IS ANYONE'S GUESS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS LOGGERJAM ISSUE WILL AFFECT THE R/V. REMEMBER THIS POINT IN HISTORY WHEN YOU VOTE FOR THE SENATORS IN 2014. 

THIS ENTIRE ISSUE PRESENTING ITSELF TO US IS ALL DUE TO "OBAMACARE" WHICH THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS OPPOSE. THE DEMOCRATIC SENATE MAJORITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UPHOLDING THIS TRAIN WRECK. 

THE SHUTDOWN IF IT OCCURS---IT WILL HAPPEN AT MIDNIGHT TOMMOROW NIGHT. TODAY, WHILE THE CONGRESS IS SCRAMBLING TO PREVENT THIS TRAIN WRECK------THE SENATE IS NOT EVEN IN SESSION----

GOD BLESS AMERICA---OR WHAT AMERICA USED TO BE.

COUNTMILLIONS POST FROM TNT FORUM: RUMOR FROM IRAQI REGION, 29 SEPTEMBER

First of all, I want to thank Tony and Okie for their work and information.  I am new here, but I have been looking at a variety of different sites with the understanding that 95% of the information is conjecture or gossip from other sites.  Tony and Okie have pushed relentlessly to sift out as much of the BS that is out there.  We all have to understand that we believe a R/V is imminent, it's the when and how much that everyones up in arms about.  Well anyway thank you Tony and Okie and the others that are doing so much for us.

Now to the rumor I have heard,  I have 2 women who work for me that are from the Iraqi area.  The rest of their family lives in the area and communicate daily, with these two sisters.  They have stated that the Dinar in Iraq is increasing in value to the point now they cannot afford to travel back home with the amount of money they have.  It is all in USD.  When I told them  of the amount of IQD I have which is not that much. her eyes bugged out and she said "WOW You are very very rich man".

I asked her what the rate was there and she could not tell me a specific amount, but her family In Iraq is very happy with how things are moving there.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 29 SEPTEMBER

9-29-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   [when you say the bank is in control do you mean only WF?]  THE UST WILL ISSUE THE GO AHEAD CODE TO ALL THE BIG 5 BANKS THEN IT WILL FILTER DOWN FROM CORPORATE BANKS TO SUBSIDARIES.  [can you explain the difference in IQD vs. IQN & VNN? And why we are supposed to state IQN?]  THE DIFFERENCE IS THE AMOUNT YOU WILL RECEIVE UPON REDEMPTION--THE IQD IS TO BE EXCHANGED AT A MUCH LOWER RATE THAN THE IQN---SAME SCENARIO APPLIES THE THE VND
NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED AS THE VNN
.

9-29-2013  Newshound Guru Stryker  CAN YOU SAY POWER SHARING, I CAN!!!! Article Quote:  Maliki said "The session government next will cancel a number of
ministries and will switch its powers to local governments so those governments
willingness to work under those variables.
"  Power sharing is part of the Erbil
Agreement and the Agreed upon 7 points by Maliki & Barzani in April. Another sign that things are coming together nicely.

9-29-2013  Intel Guru TD    I've been silent to see how the last details (which are complex) would materialize (or not) and I'm happy to report positive news. All parties have agreed upon time frames, conditions are met and execution to be implemented. Can't give exact date but it's very close. Iraq is about to enter world markets in every financial way including currency being traded. You will like the return but I must tell you these rumors of $25 + are simply…unrealistic so keep yourself grounded and expectations realistic. Above all else your anxiety level about conclusion to this saga is a much needed relief to us all.

9-29-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   [okie do you see oct 2nd as a back wall
date?
]  NOPE--I WOULD HOPE BUT OCT 8TH IS ALSO IN PLAY--I AM NOT SURE THERE ARE SUCH A THING ANYMORE AS A BACK WALL---IT IS IMMENENT NOW.  [recently some people have said this could go to 2014, 2015, even 2016.
Do you see this going into 2014 or beyond
?]   WELL---I NEVER SAY NEVER---BUT THIS HAS  FOOLED ME MORE THAN ONCE. BUT---GIVEN ALL THE OCT 1ST. AGREEMENTS PROGRESSING NOW I DONT SEE IT GOING ON A GREAT DEAL LONGER.   THE 3 SIGNATURES NECESSARY FOR THIS TO PROCEED WAS ONLY OBTAINED LAST THURSDAY----AND NO---OBAMA CAN'T STOP IT NOW.  [post 3 of 3]

9-29-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    [One intel provider yesterday said that a contractor has exchanged internationally for 25.87. Can you also, verify this intel.YES LAST THURSDAY HALLIBURTON CONTRACTORS WAS PAID (ON THEIR CHECK) AT THE RATE OF 25.87---BUT---THERE WERE A 7 DAY HOLD PUT ON ALL BUT 3.44 PER DINAR ON THEIR CHECK WITH THE CAVEOT OF REMAINING AMOUNT DUE IN 7 DAYS.  [post 2 of 3….stay tuned]

9-29-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   THIS WAS SCHEDULED LAST APRIL. 
BUT--THE LONGER IT HAS BEEN DELAYED HAS A POSITIVE EFFECT IN RELATION TO THE RATE. EVERYTIME IT WAS DELAYED THE RATE OF EXCHANGE ROSE, SO IN ESSENCE WE HAVE PROFITTED FROM IT. IT HAS RISEN DRAMATICALLY SINCE THEN [Is the 25.87 the rate you are hearing?]  YES THAT IS THE RATE THAT HAS BEEN ON THE BANK SCREENS FOR SEVERAL DAYS---THE RATE CAN BE CHANGED AT THE LAST MOMENT BUT THAT RATE IS SHOWING INTERNATIONALLY PRESENTLY.  EVERYONE NEEDS TO BEAR IN MIND THE PRESENT POSTED RATES ON THE SCREENS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE UP UNTIL 2 MINUTES BEFORE GOING LIVE.  [post 1 of 3….stay tuned]

9-29-2013  Intel Guru TerryK   THE RV WHAT IM BEING TOLD IS SET FOR THIS WEEKEND STILL…RATES STILL HIGH WHAT IM HEARING.

9-29-2013   Intel Guru TNT Tony   I am still looking for this before the first of Oct.   All the news that I have received today still says that people have been paid at the rate of $25.87 (in Iraq and in D.C.).  
Your turn is coming

WINALOT POST: NEW IRAQI LOWER DENOMS, 29 SEPTEMBER

Note To Recaps From Winalot:


New 1/4, 1/2, and 1 Dinar notes. 


I believe these are new???  Please post and see if anyone can shoot em down!!! 


Remarks along with this picture were "good days"  "return good days"!!  Winalot
From Straight Talk Chat:

[dinarboat] Knock, Knock. Anyone in here see an RV?

[WINALOT] i just found pictures of the lower denoms!!!!!!!! 1/4, 1/2, and 1 dinar!!!!

 [Shawnieb] WINALOT where did you see the photos?

[WINALOT] i sent to recaps... They should have posted shortly

[WINALOT] Shawnieb i found them online watch for them on recaps

[WINALOT] wheels the 1/2 dinar is tan….the new one

[wheels] WINALOT from what i have heard the lower notes were printed same time as the large, just not released

[WINALOT] wheels would not surprise me at all anyway... here's hoping I got it right! Lol  ok... gotta run.... enjoy!! we gotta be close!!!

EXOGEN UPDATE: PREPARE FOR RV, 29 SEPTEMBER

Stage2Omega:

 STAGE2OMEGA RESPONSE TO GURU BASHING!!!!  FROM stage2omega TO You 

99.9% OF THE PEOPLE BASHING WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO EXCHANGE, WHAT TO SAY AT BANKS, KNOW WHEN THE RATE GOES LIVE, BE EDUCATED ABOUT THIS INVESTMENT, KNOW ABOUT MULTI CURRENCY ACCOUNTS, BROKERAGE ACCOUNTS WHAT BANKS TO EXCHANGE AT, BANK RATES OR ANY OF THAT WERE IT NOT FOR GURU'S.

IT'S TIME YOU TELL THEM THANK YOU!!!

THEY SPEND HOURS OF TIME AWAY FROM FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PREPARE FOR RV!!!!      EXO

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TONY: 1000% ACCURATE INFORMATION….OUR INTEL SOURCES MATCH ALL IN THE BLAST

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK TONY!!!!!!!!!  YOU ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB...........

DO NOT LET THE NEGATIVE PEOPLE DISTRACT YOU

THE BANK & IT INFRASTRUCTURE INFO IS ON POINT…WE HAVE CONFIRMED THE EXCHANGES LAST WEEK TOO

NOTE: TNT DINAR MEMBERS ARE SOME OF THE LIVEST MOST POSITIVE. COOLEST, GROOVY PARTY PEOPLE IN IQD   LAND....................

PREPARE FOR RV!!!    EXO

30M BACKD UP TONY'S INFO, 29 SEPTEMBER

30M Backs up Tony’s Info: Pretty much what Tony was
talking about! 


9-28-13 30M:   I want to explain a little more in detail now what I could not explain last night. Last night in my update I said I can’t go into details right now but we need to make a careful, calculated decision when exchanging.I found out that Obama had instituted a 9% tax.

Bottom line is we’re going to have to make a calculation when we’re going into a particular rate for our exchange.I’m hearing there may be a cutoff amount for the return that may be counted as an investment.

Depending on the amount you’re exchanging you may have to take a lesser rate in exchange for not having it considered an investment.The amount could be the trigger – not certain, but we’re looking into. I want you to know you may not want to run in and demand the highest rate possible and then get hit with more taxes.

There may be a threshold where some of what we have is considered an investment.
Before we get all excited, let’s relax and wait for additional information to develop. What you call it when you go in (exchange or investment) has nothing to do with it. What is being talked about right now is a threshold that puts you into the investment category based on the amount you exchange, not what you call it. We don’t have that last piece of information with the rate. I’m hearing from multiple sources that is being worked out right now.

We’ve got to know the spread (low end/high end for the rate) and what is that magical dollar amount that might move us into the investment category.  

TONY BLAST TONIGHT, 29 SEPTEMBER

TONY BLAST TONIGHT

I am still looking for this before the first of Oct. All the news that I have received today still says that people have been paid at the rate of $25.87 (in Iraq and in D.C.).  Your turn is coming. Now that's all the good news there is sense I did the call yesterday.

It seems like every weekend, this board just goes crazy.  There is always someone willing to tell you that their intel is better than anyone else's and that they are the only one who possibly know everything that is going on.

I always tell you to gather as much info as you can and then fill in the missing pieces of your puzzle (this requires that you do a little work on your own and to use some common sense).  No one knows 100% what is going on.  Everyone gets pieces.

I get pieces from all around the globe, 3 letter agencies, boots on ground (here and Iraq), banking contacts in 5 different countries, politicians, call centers and cashout centers and a host of others.

Now if you think for one second that the entire world has gotten together and said let's all tell Tony a bunch of lies, so that he can tell everyone on his call, YOU ARE AN IDIOT (the mods will kick you out if you use this word).

First of all, I am not that important and second of all you are not that important to the PTB, that they have to devise a world wide conspiracy plan for you.  I have told you several times and you should know that if they didn't want you to have this money, they would have changed the rules a long time ago.  But believe what you want.

Now for the last couple of years, I have brought you information days and weeks ahead of some others, yet they have the nerve to questions my sources.  There are members (haters in disguise) who have come here not because they want to hear what I have to say, but just to cause a problem or to disrupt the harmony that we have as a team.

You know who they are or can find out by checking on all of the post that they have made.  We know where most of them have come from, which once again is mind boggling, they didn't want us over there and yet they keep coming over here.

Guys don't let them upset your weekend.  The mods are watching and a plan of action is in motion. You will see the results tomorrow.

As far as challenging my information, that's ok, but calling me a liar (no matter how it is disguised) will not be tolerated by my wife (she's making me do this update).

Guys I think it is ok to have open discussion, I think you are adult enough that no matter who comes over to our site to post, you will figure out who is telling the truth and who is trying to slowly manipulate you.  I see some of you doing and pointing out the facts for others, but it is up to them to see it for themselves.

I have constantly been trying to give you hints of things to look for in peoples character that exposes who they are.  I am hoping that I am doing the right thing, because as soon as the RV is announced you will need this super power,

So let me answer some of these questions that you have regarding the latest information.

"1)president has given his final signature – How many times have we heard this before? How many times must he signoff? This is funny since we are told that this is out of Iraq’s hands since they signed off. How many times must Iraq signoff? I do not take any of this information with any legitimacy.

Well first of all I have confirmed through the agencies in D.C., that this did in fact happen Thursday evening.  Has this ever happened before, yes.  Was it revoked,yes.  Did I already tell you that it takes 3 signatures to accomplish this, yes.

Has Iraq signed off, yes.  Was it revoked, no.  Do we need them to signoff again, no.  They are not in charge and have not been for quite sometime.  Why someone would want you to think that Iraq could be in charge one week and the U.S. the next and then back to Iraq and back to the U.S. makes no sense to me at all.  


We now know that the UN took a vote on Friday and announced that Iraq was now out of Chapter 7, we know this morning that there was a news article welcoming Iraq into the WTO.  If I was you, I would look up those qualifications (you might be surprised at what you see).  If Iraq was in charge of the RV, there would have been a public announcement by now.

2)private exchanges of the iqd/iqn have been completed in the last 24 hours in the u.s.a. by invitation only for select individuals – Really? I am simply amazed that they would still even be bold enough to tell us this. How many times have we heard this before?

We have heard several times that private exchanges have taken place and that people have received skrs.  We have even heard that cards were loaded in Iraq and have received confirmation from boots on the ground.  

What we have not heard in the past but are now hearing from contractors in Iraq and from privilaged people in D.C., is that they have received or participated in a currency exchange which started late Thursday night and into Friday at the rate of $25.87.  

As of Friday evening this was stopped, due to the fact that the public announcement was not made as scheduled.

3)technical issues, correct rates not showing up in all the banks again. But we are told there are no more technical issues over and over again. Sorry once again I think this is just stalling. I do not believe that after all the testing they did on this technical process there are still issues in this area. Even after they had a clean run last weekend?. Were we being simply lied to.

I clearly stated earlier in the week that all the technical issues had been removed and that the banking systems was ready to go.  I even told you about them catching those who were trying to manipulate it for personal gain.  

On the call I explained to you the new security system that was put in Thursday night.  I even explained to you how it was put in a region at a time and why they did it this way.  If someone has better info ask them to please share.

4)We are waiting for the 800/888 number so we can call in to make appointments.
Why would the exchange centers and calling centers be manned and ready for almost a year now if there has been and is no one to call in and make an appointment? In fact this is the latest reason for the activation hold up. I just do not believe this.

They have been manning banks and call centers since Feburary.  Don't forget guys this was supposed to happen in April.  They had the basis for the rollout to take place, but the closer they got to actully having to do this, the more they realized that they weren't ready.  

This plan has been just like the RV itself (changed many times).  As groups changed lately and the playing field has now been leveled amongst the banks, the rollout system had to be revamped.  

I know some of you think you know what it takes to complete this, but you don't.  We are not talking about you calling AT&T and saying I need 5 800#s for my company and them running by Monday (which would not happen).

  We are talking about the UST issuing out new numbers to each bank.  We are talking about each one of those banks then having to setup their call centers to process you according to their unique procedures.  There is a whole lot more involved in this then you think.


Here's a good example from one of our members:
10:18 PM [psychicgrama] I ust got off the phone with a very interesting man who explainedto me some of what is going on with 800#. What I found out was this, they had to wait until every state & territory of the US was closed & ready to test. He said this happens with a lot of companies who set up 800 numbers.

This situation is special because of security & timing. Once Hawaii, puerto rico etc were all closed down, the they have to test everyting for continuity & connectivity, its tested once, twice, so on & so on. once they arre convinced it is "live" then they turn it on & make sure it is going to stay on they make calls into the system, do transfer calls from all the satelLite banks etc.

Once it is a solid working phone setup they turn everything on & sit & wait to make surethere are no "bugs" then run security taps etc. When all of that is done it will go live. I only trust this man cause he works for the GOV. Hes not personally involved but know what has to happen. Dont be surprised if this just shows up at any time"

5)The macros in software used by operators in call in centers to manage appointments had to be revised. We were told that the centers were manned and ready for almost a year now so why all of a sudden now that when they want to activate the rates (and with such urgency so we are told) that they only now went back to revisit this call-in process when they have to us it? …and found the problems? What the heck have they been doing for the last year? Who designed and tested this software? I do not believe this could be so messed up and so incompetent. Sorry!"

See above answer.

The sad part about this blast, is the fact that I had to do it at all.  This is information that I've told you all week long and none of it has changed.  One person came on here and gave you their opinon of what they think is going on.  They explained to you how they interpreted some articles in Iraq newspapers and what they think needs to be accomplished in order for you to see the RV. 

While I respect everyones opinon, I don't necessarily agree with everything they say.  I know for a fact that most of the things they are waiting on to be accomplished, have already been accomplished, they are just waiting to be made public.  They will not be made public until the RV is announced.

So, I can say this one more time.  I feel that I have some of the best connections/resources available.  I fully 100% trust their information or I wouldn't be passing it on to you. 

I do get information at times that completes my puzzle a little more than yours, but you have to know by now that the only reason I don't pass it on is because of their security.  I know we are ahead of most on receiving intel and that is most of the problem with those that disagree.

We also know from experience that they do catch up, but we never hear them come back and say.......oh yeah, they were right.  It really doesn't matter though, because we don't need it.  All we need is the RV...

Let them laugh now and tell you that we don't know what we are talking about, it's ok, this is not a competition (not to us anyway).  When the end comes you will know who knew, who was just guessing and who was just trying to manipulate you for their own purpose.

Don't be surprised to see some familiar faces depart this site.