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Wednesday, September 18, 2013

JESTER CHAT, 18 SEPTEMBER

[Jester] HELLO AMERICANS... HOW ARE YOU ALL TONIGHT?

[Jester] OK... LET'S GET THE UPDATE OUT OF THE WAY... THEN WE CAN PLAY OR DO SOMETHING ELSE... NO SENSE DRAGGING IT OUT... THERE IN NOTHING MUCH CHANGED... EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE AT A STANDSTILL RIGHT NOW... AND I MEAN EVERYTHING... IT IS REALLY WEIRD...

[Jester] I THINK PART OF IT MAY HAVE TO DO WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE AT THE TOP OF THE WF FOOD CHAIN THAT WERE REPORTED TAKEN CARE OF LAST WEEK...

I CAN REPORT THAT SOME THINGS IN PROCESS LOOK LIKE THEY WERE HELD UP TO REASSESS THE VALIDITY OF THE TRANSACTIONS...

SINCE HE IS REPORTEDLY NOW PLANNING HIS RETIREMENT IT SEEMS AS IF THE REPLACEMENTS ARE TRYING TO GET A HANDLE ON THE SITUATION...
[RoseRedTyler] Jester Do you put much credibility in information gleened from the media out of Iraq, or is most of your conclusions verbal, mouth to mouth.

[Jester] RoseRedTyler HMMMM... MOST OF IT IS A VERY VARIED MIXTURE OF CONTACTS ACROSS THE PROCESS....

[2562bce] Jester Is John Stumpf the one retiring? Is the UST now waiting for WF to get reorganized?

[Jester] 2562bce WELL WE HEARD LAST WEEK IT WAS A LITTLE MORE SUCCINT THAN THAT BUT THAT IS THE RESULT... LOL

[2562bce] Jester Stumpf was told "Do or die" if I remember right.

[cchad3] Jester Regarding the Fed statement today 1) I thought Bernanke resigned as Fed Chairman effective September 1, does he stay in as acting Chairman until a successor is appointed? 2) If the Fed is loosing control and is broke, how do they continue printing funny money to the tune of $85B per month?

[COdreamer] Jester Any comment on the Fed's decision to not taper the bond buying program?

[Jester] COdreamer cchad3 GOOD QUESTIONS... WHAT CHOICE DO THEY HAVE UNTIL THE TIME COMES?? IT IS MY OPINION THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AROUND SEPT 1ST.... YOU MAY RECALL THE WE GOT PROBLEMS POST CAME OUT THAT SAME DAY...

[dave_144] Jester So are we only waiting Strumpf replacement to get up to speed? If so I sure hope they are VERY fast learners!!!

[Jester] dave_144 I CAN'T SAY IF THAT IS THE CASE OR NOT.. DO NOT TRY TO PUT A BACK DOOR ON IT... THE FACT IS THAT LAST WEEK THINGS WERE PROGRESSING AND NOW... NOTHING... LETS GET THEM PROGRESSING AGAIN BEFORE WE START TRYING TO FIND THE END... WE HAVE TO START FIRST...

[2562bce] Jester When you say "validity of the transactions" is this regarding the "trading platforms" we read about awhile back or something else?

[Jester] 2562bce DO YOU KNOW WHAT A TRADING PLATFORM IS? NOT SURE THAT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT...

[2562bce] Jester Not really, that is why it is in quotation marks.

[COdreamer] Jester Any thoughts as to the current lack of progress?

[Jester] THERE ARE INDICATIONS THAT THINGS MAY GET MOVING AGAIN HERE IN A DAY OR SO... THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR NOW... THEN WE WILL LOOKD FOR THE INDICATIONS OF THE END...

[COdreamer] Jester Sorry, I was typing when you were. Do you think any decision on Syria this coming Friday may put a damper on things?

 [Jester] COdreamer WASN'T AWARE OF ANY DECSION BEING MADE THAT WOULD AFFECT ANYTHING... LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY DEAD ISSUE TO ME...

[Jester] THEY HAD TO DO SOMETHING QUICK TO EXTEND THE DISTRACTION AND THAT IS WHY WE ARE SUFFERING THROUGH THE THINGS WE ARE NOW IN THE NEWS...

[hopeinwyo] Jester I'm almost afraid to ask this, but, even though you cannot give rates/dates, are you feeling you can see a light at the end of the tunnel or at least some end approaching?

[Jester] hopeinwyo AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW... IN MY MIND... THINGS ARE UNCERTAIN BECAUSE IT IS TAKING LONGER TO CLEAN UP THE MESS AND FULLY HAMSTRING THE PERPETRATORS... THE SYSTEM MUST BE SECURE... THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE WORKING ON... THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO ALLOW THE BAD GUYS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE START UP FUNDS TO BEGIN AGAIN... THAT IS THE PROBLEM RIGHT NOW...

[Jester] IT MAY GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER... BUT THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING... AND THEY DO NOT WANT THAT... THEY WANT TO MINIMIZE THE FALLOUT... AND THAT TAKES LONGER...

[sillycindy] < is waiting for the right bed time story Jester told the wrong one tonight lol

 [Jester] sillycindy THE GOOD PART IS IT WILL ALL COME OUT OKAY IN THE END AND WE WILL BE WHERE WE WANT TO BE...

[dave_144] sillycindy And they all lived happily ever after!!!

[Goose] Jester if carp hits the fan like people can't make this happen maybe they have to wait another year or two will you tell us as soon as you know?

 [Jester] Goose I WOULD... BUT I DON'T SEE THAT HAPPENING... THERE IS A BALANCE OF PEOPLE IN THE WORLD HURTING THAT REALLY NEED THIS... BUT WE JUST CAN'T AFFORD TO LET THE BAD GUYS GET BACK IN POWER THE WAY THEY ARE NOW... IT IS TAKING LONGER TO GET THAT WRAPPED UP THAN PREVIOUSLY ANTICIPATED...

[Rider] Jester Have you heard about the "Truckers to Shut Down America" in Washington, D.C. on October 11-13 to protest the corruption of the constitution?

 [Jester] Rider YEAH I SAW THAT... NOT A BAD IDEA... I HOPE THEY NOTICE... WE WILL...

[lulu] Jester do you think the bad guys are trying to prolong this to hype up more negativity and hopelessness , blood and war so it can't manifest?

[Jester] lulu IT IS POSSIBLE... I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO COVER UP THEIR IDIOT MOVES IN THE MEDIA RIGHT NOW THOUGH...

[hopeinwyo] Jester Sometimes I want to throw my hands up in despair...but then i remember that God has His own Duct Tape to tie up the perpetrators of corruption and make them powerless. Let's ALL ask Him to do miracles and surprise us and the good guys, too!

 [AdmrKris] hopeinwyo And so it shall be done. Amen.

[Jester] hopeinwyo WELL FAITH WILL KEEP YOU FROM WORRYING... IT IS A GOOD IDEA...

[mango] 2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

[hopeinwyo] Jester Faith will also move the Hand of God.

[Jester] mango ONE OF MY FAVORITES... WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO...

 [mango] Jester one of my favorites to but thats were it starts

[hopeinwyo] Not ONE person the shore of the Red Sea, with pharoah's army hot on their heels, thought God would part those waters!! Expect the "impossible".

[mango] With God all things are possible

[BocaLinda] Hopeinwyo yes and amen!

[lulu] Jester any current events we should be keeping an eye on besides the obvious

[Jester] lulu NOTHING I CAN SAY BUT WATCH THE NEWS... THINGS ARE GETTING WORSE FOR THOSE GUYS BY THE MINUTE...

[lulu] Thx Jester, I also think we can do our part by watching our thoughts and words to stay positive

[Jester] OK.... LET'S HAVE A LITTLE FUN... NEED TO RAISE THE VIVBRATIONS IN THIS ROOM... THAT WILL

[Jester] lulu EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING...

[BocaLinda] God bless you Jester for telling us like it is! You are 180degrees from the others.

 [Jester] BocaLinda WELL THERE ARE SOME TRYING TO PUT OUT WHAT THEY CAN... MTN GOAT MAY BE OFF A LITTLE ABOUT THE REPUBLIC STUFF BUT THE REST IS WORKING FOR ME RIGHT NOW.... IT MAKES SENSE...

[BocaLinda] Jester yes she is the closest to what you've been saying

I4U CHAT, 18 SEPTEMBER

I4U:

[FLPatriot59] [Austin-Powers-For-PM @ TNT CHAT] Listening in on BGG call. He is speculating that all the chat rooms went down due to a hacker group out of Syria called Anon Ghost who decided to deface a whole bunch of websites, and targeted the addonchat server by going through the back door.

[shatterstar] well guys I think that the next 48hrs are going to be very interesting. I hope things get resolved soon....

[FLPatriot59] shatterstar What are you hearing?

[shatterstar] FLPatriot59 all the meetings concluded today. Iraq is making the announcement that they are waiting to have their currency made international. that announcemnet requires prior approval. invitation to WTO. Iraqi bank in Europe. Something is happening

 [misskitty05] shatterstar I hope you are correct!
[shatterstar] misskitty05 me too.. I hope there arent any more complications.

[FLPatriot59] shatterstar What's the timeframe on that announcement? Do you know?

[shatterstar] FLPatriot59 sorry had a phone call. The first day I was looking for it was tomorrow, with a fallback to Friday if there was a delay. I know it will not happen over the weekend. So then we are back at next week.

[FLPatriot59] shatterstar You said "was looking for it was tomorrow." Are you no longer looking for it tomorrow, or is that still a possibilty?

 [shatterstar] FLPatriot59 Im looking for it tomorrow.

 [FLPatriot59] shatterstar I hope you're right!!

[shatterstar] I should clarify. Out of all the days this week, The first day I thought it could happen would be thursday

 [FLPatriot59] Okay, everybody who agrees tomorrow should be the day, please stand. The rest of you can jump in the moat. Lol

[FLPatriot59] Chats were back up by 4PM or so. Calls still happened today (tho GET cancelled their call for tonight, per the Fed, so they say). Everything is running normally now. If the PTB wanted to shut anything down it could've shut everything down, not just chats. So, IMO, I don't think it's related (of course, I could be a paid gov't spokesperson just telling you what you want to hear). Lol

[FLPatriot59] [jaybird @ TNT] Afternoon Family.....several of you have asked if Frank will be doing a post or a CC tonight....I have spoken to him and can tell you it will be a blue post....concerning I-team information.....and as he said.....it is interesting....but I won't steal his thunder, you need to read it from him.....tonight between 8 and 8:30 est. Alabama is also doing a DO NOT MISS CALL tonight.

[BLESSME] Flpatriot whats the good news??

[FLPatriot59] BLESSME We're are looking real good for anytime between now and Friday, most likely sooner rather than later.

[chefbear96] FLPatriot59 are you really feelin the anytime between now and friday?

[FLPatriot59] chefbear96 That's pretty much what most are saying.

[chefbear96] FLPatriot59 sounds good to me

[wittsend] FLPatriot59 It would not surprise me to see the chatrooms interrupted for some period of time as a pre-cursor to the "event" to keep pandemonium to a minimum.

 [FLPatriot59] wittsend That's what someone else speculated in another room. Perhaps it was a "dry run" to tampen down the fervor.

 [wittsend] FLPatriot59 ...or a test run.

[FLPatriot59] wittsend Could be.

[BLESSME] Wittsend what did she say about chat rooms today?

[wittsend] BLESSME She said something about her well-placed source saying that they wanted everyone to simmerdown and let this thing happen.

[wittsend] FLPatriot59 What do you think about her opinion of the dichotomy between the IQD and IQN?

[FLPatriot59] wittsend I do know we've been told when the IQD goes international, it - along with others - will change 3-letter codes. We actually saw this happen earlier this summer when IQN showed up briefly. I'll find her post and check it out again.

TONY'S CC CALL NOTES FROM FIPATRIOT59, 18 SEPTEMBER

TNT CALL - 9/18/13
Good morning, TNT. We're getting started here a little late simply because I was getting a lot of emails, texts, etc. Seems there are 2-3 threads in the Forum regarding Mtn Goat's posts. Here's my thing and it makes sense to me: I've been getting calls to the Mods asking "is it Mtn Goat, is it not Mtn Goat, etc."

The bigger pic isn't who the person is but is the information accurate? Doesn't matter whether they can spell or not, if they're in the mountains or on the beach. I don't care. I just want to know if the info is correct. I don't understand the whole argument. I've said we're not going to let 10-15 people ruin it for 15,000 people. We'll delete everyone of them and we'll move on. All of these personal attacks is not what TNTDinar is about. It's not why we came over here. This is a team working together, finding the best info we can.

It's about the information, not about you, me or anybody else. Discuss if you believe the content of the information, not if somebody can spell or not. If you give a little more respect, you'll get more respect.
Nobody's account has been hacked. All of the chat rooms being closed is because they're all on the same server. There is no gov't intervention. If they wanted us all shut down this call wouldn't be going on. The servers are down due to a power outage.

The good info is that everything is still on track. Today is the day when things could possibly happen. Yes, the bank people did go in yesterday and early this morning. Bank people who were told if it didn't happen Monday it wouldn't happen until Oct. Well those people were called in yesterday and today. They're trying to push to get it done by Friday.

The rates are still over $23 and $3 as of this morning. The system is still working and things could happen anytime between this afternoon and Friday. An announcement is projected. That's the timeframe we're being given. Bad guys are still being picked up.

I'm waiting for confirmation that there may be a final resolution to the tax rate. Regardless, the majority of you will be audited next year. They brought on 50,000 new tax auditors just to do audits. When you're thinking of your strategies, trusts, LLC's, etc., you better know how those things work. And you need to be involved in those for the next 5 years.

If you fail to be involved you can be audited and fined for back taxes plus penalties. You need to hire pros to handle your tax situation. Make sure you keep up with your monthly reports, filings, etc. You need to be prepared for the long term.

You need to know what's going on - more than just getting a trust, LLC, etc. so it won't look like you're just avoiding taxes.

All of our people are still there. As of this morning everybody is still at the banks. Not much has changed since Monday.


"LIVE" Q&A STARTING NOW (C = Caller / T = Tony)
C - Bernanke is supposed to have a news conference today followed by the POTUS, Kerry, and Jack Lew. Related to the RV?
T - We read the POTUS was supposed to have speeches everyday, but not seeing it. Then we see he's making another speech today. This morning when the POTUS was speaking to the business leaders he said "our deficit has been cut in half since he's been in office." He said that yesterday as well. Not sure where he's getting that from.

C - Iraqi Parliament still going on 5-day break tomorrow? If so, we were told the RV would have to occur first.
T - So far they are still scheduled to start their break tomorrow. Everyday, including today, they're putting their financial people on TV saying their currency must go international. It has to be declared international, then the rates change and the process is completed. That's what they're expecting.

C - How does the debt ceiling debate tie into the RV?
T - I'm hoping from the info we're seeing that this journey is over this week. It's supposed to end this week. The gov't runs out of money on Oct. 1. The POTUS said he didn't want the debt ceiling as part of the debate and the Repubs want Obamacare part of the debate. Are they all going to play that game? I can see where the RV and GCR can be part of that, but I don't think it will get that far. I'm hoping this parts gets completed before they make an announcement about Syria on Friday. That's why everybody is pushing for this to be done.

C - Have you personally seen the Oct 2 memo or just heard about it (related to the public RV of currency)?
T - I've been told by people who are in the training classes who have seen it. They've already been trained and supposedly they're receiving additional training. More new people have been brought in for training.

C - With all the news, meetings, etc. Mtn. Goat saying it won't happen until Oct and that it's in Iraq's hands, is very confusing.
T - They (Iraq) are just as eager to get this done as we are. They wanted to come out with an announcement today (at the end of their national meeting) and if they were in charge it would be done.

C - So who is really holding it up?

T - It's not Iraq, it's not the banking system because that's working. Who is concerned about the ME right now? It's either us or the IMF. There has been an agreement about what military action can or cannot take place via the UN and how that affects the agreement on Friday. There are 2 people that can do this: the IMF which will load the lower rates and the UST which will load the higher rates. They're still using what's happening in the ME as a bargaining chip. They set a date and before that date comes, something new happens. So they're hoping it happens before Friday and before something else happens. Syria, the GCR, etc. are 2 separate issues - but is it really?


C - On a scale of 1-10, how confident are you it will happen this week, this month or this year?
T - I am more confident it will happen this year, absolutely, before the new year. Before the end of the month, very confident. I feel good about today. We are more likely to see it by Friday than by the end of the year. JL is saying all the things we want to hear but we still don't see the RV. At some point people will want to see the numbers to back up what they're saying.

C - So on a scale of 1-10, you'd say 7 for this week,9 for this month and 10 for this year?
T - yes, good numbers.


C - Do you know anything about what people in the UK will do for CE?
T - Have no idea. We think DinarTrade has an office there. You should contact them. DinarUK is also in London.

Q&A BEGINNING NOW:
Q - if the RV doesn't happen this week, is there a back wall?
A - no there is no back wall.

Q - can you describe the money flow thru the WF private placement CE?
A - Don't know. They don't give out those details. The UST is supposed to get 11% for the deal, and another 2% to the person who set it up. If it came out at $28 (based on the contract I received), it would net at $18 to you.

Q - Your thought about Mtn Goat's posts?
A - When I say I like her posts, it doesn't mean I necessarily agree with everything she posts. I like her details, things I cannot post. We're not 100% in agreement. I've only heard from 2 people that thought it wouldn't go until October. We're not waiting on laws, system, codes, etc. It's working and we're only waiting for someone to authorize it to go. Explain to me why it can't happen before Oct. 15 if you're going to put that out there. If you're not going to substantiate it don't put it out there. I'm not saying they're wrong, but it's just your opinion. Tell me why if you know it's not going to happen until January. What's the rationalization and maybe we can all understand it? You may have a piece of the puzzle I'm missing. If you share what you know and why you think it's that way, we can all put the puzzle together. It's not about gurus.

Q - why do some gurus only see the lower rates if they have the same access as you?
A - obviously they don't have the same access. I'm seeing those rates at every level and they all change at the same time.

Q - Is the UST paying for all these "dry runs"?
A - Yes.

Q - Question about taxes, WF CE, etc. (Tony ran about 4 questions together).
A - I don't think the banks will handle the taxes. They haven't been trained to do so. How can they take 11% out of your money? I did hear 9.7% and a new form given to the banks and then given to you to file by yourself - UNCONFIRMED. But that makes more sense than the 11%.

Q - do we need to put long term Capital Gains currency exchange in a separate account?
A - All I know is we're been told to keep the IQD and VND in separate accounts.

Q - Can we put the 50% held back for taxes in an interest-bearing account to make money while we wait on the tax situation to resolve?
A - Yes, why not make money on those funds while you wait.

T - keep in mind that they are trying to rush you into making a mistake. Anytime somebody gives you a deadline, there's a reason for that. Be careful.

Q - what are the ceiling rates?
T - This morning the VND was at $4 and the IQD at $23. I can't give you the ceiling rates. If I do, 2 things will happen: they'll lower it and lesson the days. And you don't want me to do that.

Q - do you advise we CE the IDR first, then the IQD and VND?
A - it depends on how much of any currency you have will determine the deals you can negotiate. With most people the IQD and VND will be negotiable.

Q - I've run out of answers to members of our church who think it's a scam. What can I say to them?
A - Tell them to have faith. Research. Tell them to check out articles and archives for more info to alleviate their fears.

Q - Is Tony using a bank?
A - I have appointments at DinarBanker and banks. I will negotiate the highest rates, perks, etc to get the highest of everything I can out there. I'm not looking at banks that don't do IPOs.

Q - do you have travel reservations made this week?
A - I looked at private planes yesterday. It's $60,000 for private jet travel.

TONY - The info is very simple: we're waiting on it. The bank people are there now. Everybody's looking for it today thru Friday. Over in Iraq it's being announced that the last piece of the process is for the IQD to go international. Then it's all over. We're all waiting on one single thing to happen.


If anything else happens we'll do a blast-out. It's a super fantastic day and I'm waiting for it. I'm sure I'll get info after this call and I will share it if it's important.

END OF CALL. 

MNT GOAT UPDATE: TODAY'S NEWS, 18 SEPTEMBER

(Note: She has added more details pertaining to this mornings intel post:)

Hello Everyone,

Hope all are well.  Today was a bright and clear day here in the Alps. Some clouds moved in later but I don’t think its going to rain. I hope I am not putting rain on your sunny day.

Yes this is now the real mnt goat.....lol....
 

Our business of revaluation news for today

The news today will be brief since there are not many changes to report since my last post. I still do not expect to see this RV until later in September or early October. There are many reasons for this and I have tried to tell you in my last post. Please go back and re-read it UU7534 this news has not changed. 
I do not believe in bank stories alone as one of my sources since I believe they are using the banks to bring out corruption and in the process string us dinar investment  holders along for the ride with all these claims of false episodes of RV. This is not fair to us and has kept us on this never ending roller coaster ride.

However I do also see that this effort in the long run will be to our benefit and this will protect our investment even more and help the people in Iraq.  I do not discount the value of bank intel as these stories have some merit in the overall big picture as long as you have other creditable data to back it up too.

I have some really good sources in CBI and they are telling me Iraq still must post the new IQN rate on their CBI site to make it official and final.

The IQD rate will not be activated until the IQN goes international. I know Iraq already signed off on the RV  in March. This is not new news. This situation is dynamic. This does not invalidate my new intel.

The USA also signed off on the RV last March - so where is it? This reasoning of some intel providers makes no sense and they still stubbornly say its out of Iraqi hands.

It was out of their hands and turned over to the USA for activation but since it was held up the circumstances have changed and I think it may be due to the Syrian crisis.

If we truly want to get to the heart of this revaluation effort we must take all intel into consideration.

Here is what happened. 

As a last minute directive from Maliki from the GOI in order to fully support this RV and post the rates on CBI, they decided  last week to do yet another sweep and effort to remove yet more 3 zero notes from circulation in country.

They decided to do this at the request of the CIA through Maliki. As you know he is their patsy. They are doing this to defend the country and the middle east from these terrorist or would-be terrorists who have large sums of dinar.

This might also be related to Syrian issue? I have a bank contact in Iraq also that told me they were seeded with a large amount of USD from the CBI in order to proceed in this effort.

He told me explicitly the instructions they were given.

Am I making all this up? Why would I and what do I have to gain from this?

I can see now that some intel providers are either getting directions from someone in the UST to say what they say on these calls or they  just plain don’t know all the facts I know.

You should not plan on any CBI rate getting posted until they complete this new effort. I do not see this recent project being completed until late next week or early October.

Having said this Iraq is always late in their promise to deliver. I wish like everyone else this not to be the case since I too need the RV. Could this once again stall the RV and have it spill yet into another event. Maybe !  Read on.

So in conclusion, like I addressed in my last post the country of Iraq does absolutely still play a vital role in holding up this RV. This is a recent development as the situation changed.

The IQN and IQD must RV at the same timeframe. I did not say Iraq is the only ones holding it up but they do have control over their own future currency. 

I am also now hearing grumblings about using this RV as yet another political leverage in dealing with the USA debt ceiling. I do believe the IMF will allow this to go down this road. If it does however we could all be waiting  yet longer.

I want to also stress this very important point – when we hear about Iraqi news in USA or Europe it is usually 1-2 weeks old already and Iraq usually has either
1) already done the event to which the news talks about or
2) changed directions and did already something else or
3) the article or news just talked about a probable action(s)/ event(s) and was totally taken out of context.

So you see it is not easy to find the truth and make conclusions on the news.

I still believe strongly that the new IQN will be published on the CBI site first and it will be the catalyst that will begin the final process in bringing us the activation of the IQD rate in the USA and other countries and be the trigger for the other international currency revaluations as part of the global currency reset of over 190+ currencies.

PS- I wish I could tell you it is happening tonight or this week and bring you some hopium but I strongly feel this is not the case. Time will tell. Just want to be honest.

Hope this news helps everyone.

Peace and Luv to ya,
mnt goat

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 18 SEPTEMBER

9-18-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony   Parliament is still scheduled to start their break tomorrow. We know people in Iraq that say Iraq has signed off on it and it is not in their hands.  They want this as much as we do. On Iraqi TV the people are being told that to complete the process they have to go international and the rate will change and process will be complete.  People that thought it would go to October are now looking for it today.  From the information that I am getting this journey is about to end.  This could get done in the next hour.  [post 2 of 2]

9-18-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony   Everything is still on track.  Bank personnel went in this morning & are on alert for it at any moment, anytime.  The rates are $23+ for IQD and the Dong was at $4 as of this morning.  It can happen from this afternoon to Friday is what they are trying to accomplish.  There is to be some kind of announcement regarding Syria by Friday, hopefully they get this accomplished before that.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

9-18-2013  Intel Guru Mnt Goat   I still do not expect to see this RV until later in September or early October. There are many aspects to this RV process and the pieces must all align to make any assumptions or conclusions.  I still believe strongly that the new IQN will be published on the CBI site first and will be the catalyst that will begin the final process in bringing us the activation of the IQD rate in the USA and other countries and the trigger for the other international currency revaluations as part of the global currency reset of over 190+ currencies.

9-18-2013  Newshound Guru Stryker   Article:  "Zebari sends letter to his Kuwaiti Counterpart over mutual relatins"  Quote: "The letter referred to the mutual relations and the latest regional updates in addition to settling the joint issues,"   This sure looks like the check to me, or at least the formal letter of payment in which the UN will be forwarding to Kuwait at the end of this month or the very beginning of October. See, they pay the compensation to Kuwait either at the end of each quarter or the beginning of the next and that starts and ends September 31st.  Can you say, Chapter VII released in FULL? I can!   Full release means that Iraq will have all their frozen funds, be able to finally show their true wealth and Economic with Currency Reform will follow soon after. 

9-18-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3       AT THIS TIME IT IS TRUELY DAY BY DAY AND IT CAN BE DONE AT ANYTIME.   I KNOW WE HAVE SAID THIS BEFORE BUT THIS TIME ACTUALLY IT IS VERY REAL...THE TIMING AND ALL THE COMPLETIONS OF LAWS AND AGREEMENT ARE IN PLACE AND WITH MALIKI MONDAY SIGNING OFF ON THE 5 YR ECONOMIC PLAN THE RELEASE HAS HAPPENED FOR TURKI TO ACT, OR THE IMF.  SO WHO KNOWS WHEN OR WHERE IT WILL COME AND WHOM FROM. WE HAVE A DOUBLE CHANCE AT THIS TIME.

MNT GOAT POST, 18 SEPTEMBER

Hello Everyone,

Hope all are well. Today the skys are clear and I can see for miles on top of the mountain.

I have to do some house cleaning first in the post and this is dirty work and no one really likes to do it but it is necessary or else you sit and live in the filth. I will use yet another analogy but remember this may not apply to all members reading this post and I it is not intended for all  members.

Please do not take as an insult if this does not apply to you since I do believe the majority of members on TNT are good hearted, good intended people who come here for the RV news, not gossip or anything else. 

Did you ever work on an apple orchard? In some of the larger ones they keep the apples over winter by putting them in a cold storage. They try to maintain a constant temperature all year to keep the apples fresh and crispy so we can eat and enjoy apples for many seasons.
The fact of the matter is that over time some of the apples are simply going to rot and begin to smell. As they select the apples for market they have to weed out the bad ones in order to preserve the good ones. If this is not done the rotten apples will contaminate the good ones and soon the entire bunch is spoiled.

As I wrote in my last couple posts it seems there are 80% of members on this TNT site who truly want to learn and know all sides of the information and news about this revaluation.

Then there are some others (the other 20%) who are closed minded and those that are frustrated and are taking their frustrations out on those who bring the news. They corrupt the boards and fill it with nonsense.

The rest of us (the 80%) wonder just what their real intent of these members. Seems some intel presented on this site may not fit nicely to their hopium guidelines as they are vented more on bashing rather then on learning.

Sometimes I think their main objective is nothing more than to take over the forum and create chaos. Is this you? We need to just ignore these bad apples in the future and maybe we can all call them out for the nonsense they create.      
 
But in the overall analysis I still can’t help but keep asking myself this question- if you hate or dislike mnt goat so much then why do you read my post, why do you even care about my private life or anything about me for that matter.

I just don’t get it.  Am I that much of a celebrity?

Has my news been really spot on? Remember I too can have scans made of IP addresses and I too can revel your identities and I can have this done quicker than you know. But who really cares who you are?

I am just here to bring RV news so we can all learn from this process.
I just wanted to bring this all out in the open today since this  is getting scary and too tell you going forward I am not going to stop my posts because of a bunch of bad apples.

Our business of revaluation news for today

The news today will be brief since there are not many changes since my last post.

I still do not expect to see this RV until later in September or early October. 

There are many reasons for this and I have tried to tell you in my last post. Please go back and re-read it UU7534 this news has not changed.  I do not believe in bank stories alone as one of my sources since I believe they are using the banks to bring out corruption and in the process string us dinar investment  holders along for the ride with all these claims of false episodes of RV.

This is not fair to us and has kept us on this never ending roller coaster ride. However I do also see that this effort in the long run will be to our benefit and this will protect our investment even more and help the people in Iraq.

 I do not discount the value of bank intel as these stories have some merit in the overall big picture as long as you have other creditable data to back it up too.

There are many aspects to this RV process and the pieces must all align to make any assumptions or conclusions. The problem that most have with this process is they rely too much on just one piece of information to the puzzle and do not see how it fits in to the big picture.

Some don’t even have the other pieces to the puzzle or are able to take the wheat from the weeds so that makes it even harder for them and they assume way too much. Remember this – if you mix up multiple puzzles together it will yet be even hard to solve.

Some get carried away in the world financials and so can’t see the political side. You have to consider it all. It plays its part .   

Like I addressed in my last post the country of Iraq does absolutely still play a part in holding up this RV since the IQN and IQD must RV at the same timeframe.

Iraq is mainly concerned about the value of the IQN and we can see many, many articles from the CBI, Finance Ministry and the Parliament telling us this is the time to get the revaluation done and get the currency international or else there will be severe economic consequences in the near future.

I want to also stress this very important point – 

when we hear about news in USA or Europe it is usually 1-2 weeks old already and Iraq usually has either 1) already done the event to which the news talks about or 2) changed directions and did already something else or 3) the article or news just talked about a probable action(s)/ event(s) and was totally taken out of context. So you see it is not easy to find the truth and make conclusions on the news.

I still believe strongly that the new IQN will be published on the CBI site first and will be the catalyst that will begin the final process in bringing us the activation of the IQD rate in the USA and other countries and the trigger for the other international currency revaluations as part of the global currency reset of over 190+ currencies.

Hope this news helps everyone.

Peace and Luv to ya,
mnt goat

DIZZYBEAR POST: THE END IS NEAR!, 18 SEPTEMBER

Dizzybear:   Hey Folks….we’re inching closer and closer to THE END of this long trip….. Did you notice that neither Summers OR Gheithner want the FED Chairman job…..hmmmm, I wonder why. AND, today Jack Lewis said he’s “anxious”, rad that to mean NERVOUS, about the shut down of government coming September 30th at midnight IF Congress doesn’t do something SOON!

Meanwhile, Boehner says he knows the deadline and he’s not worried!! Curious confidence to say the least…and it could happen IF everything goes perfectly!! But, that never happens in Washington….sooooooo, something else is afoot here…..can you guess WHAT that is? Look at the calendar kids…. The end IS near!!!  []

I4U & JESTER CHAT FROM DINARRECAPS FORUM, 18 SEPTEMBER

I4U:

[bailey2..] Randy says the RV will be before Friday. The IMF and Malaki have been at war over the rate. Malaki wants a high rate the IMF wants a lower rate. Will be resolved very soon. That's it....

[KajunRedBull] bailey2.. Well U Geaux RK! Just come right out and say what ya mean! 

[Bear'sOpenHeart] bailey2.. Finally something I can agree with Maliki on...

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Jester's Place:

[Jester] HI EVERYONE...

[peachestenn] Jester Question...how difficult is it to dismantal and "Act" like the Federal Reserve Act of 1913? Is it an offical law that our country untilize MOnetary Realism or private banking instead of a public sector system like the UST? I have been doing some research again :)

[Jester] peachestenn NOT HARD... TAKES AND ACT OF CONGRESS...

 [peachestenn] Jester So did congress pass the dismanteling of the fed reserve act or does it need passing idk just picking any one's brain that can chime in...

[lulu] Jester I thought the federal reserve act is up for review December 2013. 100 yrs is up

[Oracle] lulu The law was changed (forget the year) it doesn't expire.

 [Jester] lulu THAT IS A MYTH... 

[Jester] There was never a 100 year (or 99 year as some other similar lies state) charter for the Fed.

[Jester] It was set up in 1913 with each individual Federal Reserve Bank having a 20 year charter.

[blest40] Jester Are there a large amount of arrests happening this week, like we heard there would be?

[Jester] However congress passed the Pepper McFadden Bill in 1927 giving the banks perpetual charter. The system can only come to an end as a result of an act of congress.

[peachestenn] Jester and that has not happened yet maybe that is what we should be looking for

[Jester] peachestenn BEEN KEEPING MY EYES PEELED... LOL

[IvanTulafitov] hope 2014 is not WW3

[Jester] IvanTulafitov INTERESTING THING ABOUT WARS... THEY ALWAYS SEEM TO HAPPEN ABOUT THE TIME THE PUBLIC IS ABOUT TO HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO WAKE UP...

[hopen4it] Jester yeah but I think to many people are starting to catch on

[IvanTulafitov] Jeckyl Island... that was all in secret... it does kinda worry me that the GCR is being planned in secret... how do we really know this isnt the next 100 year master plan for world domination... just sayin its a thought not too worried about it tho

LATE TUESDAY NIGHT TNT CHAT, 18 SEPTEMBER

LATE TUESDAY NIGHT:

TNT:
[august] my take is that the articles are a good indication of all intel aligning, coupled with the announcements, stocks currency markets, and the President O's speeches. All is really really good. This is going to be a stellar week.

[Pinkie] Randy says the RV will be before Friday. The IMF and Malaki have been at war over the rate. Malaki wants a high rate the IMF wants a lower rate. Will be resolved very soon. That's it.....

[snooky22] Is the randy call a recording or live?

[Pinkie] snooky22 ~ No. Just a private email to my husband.

[jms] Randy usually don't go out to far on a limb......jmo

 [Pinkie] jms ~ Your right he doesn't. He is friends with my husband-Attorney

[19rue] jms I agree. If it were on a call or posted somewhere, I think I would be more likely to believe it.

[Pinkie] 19rue ~ Oh you can believe it.......... or not. Makes no difference to me.

[rocky751] 9-17-2013 Mailman11 we can now add that we know the imf is waiting for iraq to move into art 8. Its their call. But now we see that the wto has given them an invitation for them to join them as full fledged members... But we also know that invitation has to include a tradeable currency. One that is recognized wordwide...we always knew they had the resources to back a currency change. Lets hope the wto's invitation will be accepted by iraq and then we can all see what we have been waiting for all these years..an rv...jmho as i see things transpire 

 [TXCowgirl] Iraq did accept the WTO invitation.