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Sunday, September 15, 2013

ZAP & SUSAN POST, 15 SEPTEMBER

Greetings and Salutations,

When a society suffers collective amnesia, when it loses its historical consciousness, the values formed through that society's history inevitably erode. That decay undermines the society's political, social, and intellectual cohesion, and may threaten its survival. Introduction:The Mainstream of CIVILIZATION, 1989

From ZAP..........HI ALL

FOR SOME REASON UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, SOME HAVE DECIDED MY IDENTITY IS REALLY THAT OF MARION HORN JR. OF FIVE STAR TRUST. WOW. BELIEVE ME, IF I WAS MARION, THEN THE OTHER GUYS ON THE TRUST WOULD BE WALLOPING ME AND GIVING ME SH** FOR SENDING OUT THESE MESSAGES.

BESIDES, I WRITE ABOUT THINGS OTHER THAN “GET ME AN AUDIT SO I CAN PAY TAXES AND GET THE MONEY RELEASED FROM THE TRUST”. 
THAT IS MARION’S SOLE FOCUS…GET A PRINT OUT OF THE ACCOUNT AND GO TO THE IRS, PAY TAXES, AND BY DOING SO, FORCE THE FIVE STAR FUNDS TO BE OFFICIALLY RELEASED. MARION DOES NOT HAVE ANY TIME TO DO SUCH NEWSLETTERS, OR BOTHER WITH THE PROJECT SIDE – IT IS ALL ABOUT GETTING THE TRUST MONIES RELEASED. HE REFUSED TO GIVE EM UP TO THE CABAL, AND PAID A PRICE FOR MAINTAINING THAT INTEGRITY, AND THAT IS WHAT HE IS ALL ABOUT NOW.

THIS IS IN RESPONSE TO THE FOLLOWING:

Hello Susan, Marion (ZAP), and Mr. X,

My name is MR. XYZ. I and my family live in [SOME COUNTRY]. I (we) have applied for the position of Director of a non-profit organization that oversees humanitarian projects that are to be funded via philanthropists out of Europe as well as some funding coming through the St. Germain trusts. As I understand, the acceptance, funding, and admin are to be done in house - that is we (the npo) will be responsible for the entire operation.

I am very interested in what you are doing with respect to having your operation web-based and interactive with the requesting clients. I am also interested in having a Galactic presence for any help that they are willing to give - both in admin and vetting - anything would be a great help.

Would you be willing to 'sub-out' Mr. X when he is finished with your project? We are willing to compensate whatever his fees are and 'it's for humanity' - a great cause. [MY COUNTRY] is a great country and he would enjoy visiting here.

[ZAP: I GUARANTEE HE WOULD – REALLY NICE PLACE]

I would like to be able to duplicate our npo operation as a template for other npos in other countries to help them get started (free of charge of course). I'm a bit of an idealist and visionary so I apologize in advance if you think I am out of line for making this request ("who says NO first, if you don't ask?).

Warm Regards

MR. XYZ

P.S. We have always enjoyed Poof's contributions (and now Susan's) and welcome Marions thoughts and revelations.

SO, MUCH THANKS FOR SAYING WHAT YOU SAID. THERE WILL BE MANY SUCH OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL WHO CHOOSE THIS PATH OF HELPING OTHERS THROUGH THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE (NOT FOR EVERYBODY AS THAT HAS ITS PARTICULAR CHALLENGES), AND DEDICATION AT THIS LEVEL IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE ACCUSATION, NO, I AM NOT MARION. I WEIGH FAR LESS THAN HE DOES, HAVE NOT HAD HEART SURGERY, AND I AM NOT CONCERNED WITH MONEY AS HE IS, JUST PIGS AND THEIR FLIGHT QUALIFICATIONS.

IN ANSWER TO THIS EMAIL

I am sending this to the e-mail address I used when I wanted a consultation with Poof. Since allegedly Poof is gone I hope this will get to someone that has taken his place; Susan ZAP, et al.

YES JAMES HAS PASSED AND IS SORELY MISSED BY US

ZAP, in your last report you stated "and it has started. The coming week, I think Wednesday is the target date here, we will see announcements and release of funds for the redemptions". Well Wednesday has come and gone and I have seen nothing. Just like hundreds of times before, none of the predictions ever come to pass.

YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW CLOSE WE DID IN FACT COME TO THIS. THE HEAD GUY OF WELLS FARGO HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO OBEY ORDERS, SO HE DID, AND LOST HIS JOB BUT KEPT HIS LIFE (THAT’S HOW SERIOUS THIS ##### IS PEOPLE). HIS PLACE WAS TAKEN BY A TRIUMVIRATE, AND THESE 3 ARE NOW CHARGED WITH THE RELEASE. IT IS TO BE THIS COMING WEEK, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING EVERY SINGLE DAY TO DATE.

I would ask that if you don't have good solid information about what is happening, that you just say nothing. Getting hopes up just to have them dashed once again is somewhat cruel on your part.

THAT WAS SOLID INFORMATION, OTHERWISE I WOULD HAVE KEPT SILENT. WITNESS WF CHIEF BEING FIRED – THAT IS NO SMALL MATTER.

I realize that you think you are helping but sometimes it is better to say nothing than to give out erroneous information. After so many years, everyone’s psyche is fragile and bad info doesn't help to make it better. You need to understand that there are hundreds that believe this whole thing is a fraud and will never happen. Frankly I have never seen anything that indicates it is for real, just a lot of rhetoric.

IF IT WAS RHETORIC, LIVES WOULD NOT BE LOST. LOOK AT JAMES. HE GAVE HOPE FOR YEARS AND THE BEST INFORMATION HE COULD WITHOUT STEPPING OVER THE LINE. NOW AT THIS TIME IN THIS PROCESS, WHEN ALL THIS IS GETTING DONE, HE WENT FROM HEALTHY TO CANCER OF EVERYTHING (MASSIVE SYSTEM ATTACK FROM CANCER OF LIVER, PANCREAS, LUNGS, BRAIN, ETC) IN ONLY ONE MONTH. THEN HE DIED. HE WAS ABOUT TO REVEAL EVERYTHING AND THEY COULD NOT AFFORD THIS.

If you have credible information that can be verified them bring it on. Otherwise I suggest you zip it.

I WILL NOT ZIP ANYTHING, JUST ZAP. AND CREDIBLE INFORMATION? HMMMMM….ONLY IF YOU HAVE ACCESS TO THE HIGHER LEVELS, CAN YOU VERIFY SUCH INFORMATION. ASKING FOR VERIFIABLE INFORMATION IS A 2-EDGED THING HERE. BY IMPLYING YOU CAN VERIFY INFORMATION, ALSO MEANS YOU CAN BE PRIVY TO SUCH INFORMATION, YET YOU SEEK IT.

Thank you,

The Godfather

YOU ARE WELCOME. WANT TO TRAIN PIGS?

Q&A from our readers to ZAP: 

People sometimes loose confidence in one's quality of information when projections do not come to pass even though projections are just that, projections. An example would be the RV date and rate projections. Please provide some understanding as to why the projections of the RV dates given have never come about.

BECAUSE THE LANDSCAPE FOR THE RESET WAS STILL NOT READY DESPITE BEST EFFORTS. DATES HAVE COME AND GONE. PEOPLE HAVE COME AND DIED. THE EFFORT CONTINUES.

Is it just so fluid and enormous a task involving so many countries or the Cabal putting up road blocks or it's just not time yet as we are waiting on a particular date?

YES. TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CABAL ACCOUNTS CAN WIELD MUCH POWER, SO THAT THE CABAL STAYS IN POWER. HOWEVER, THIS TIME IS ABOUT OVER. THEY ARE TRYING THEIR BEST TO GET THE RESET DONE, AND THE RV ANNOUNCED.

Have we reached a significant position that we can now move ahead putting many of these things behind us? Has the Cabal finally been dealt with?

YES AND NO. FOR THE MOST PART, YES. THERE ARE A FEW MORE ITEMS BEING NEGOTIATED ON AND THE MAIN THING HERE, IS ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS. WHEN THE CABAL ASKS FOR THAT, THAT PERSON GETS REDEMPTION. OTHERWISE, JAIL OR SOMETHING PARTICULARLY SPECIAL TO SUIT THEIR REQUIREMENTS.

Earlier you said the process for us to receive F&P was to start the bond redemptions, make AU settlements to the countries then we would see the RV. Where are we in this process now?

YES. THE REDEMPTIONS HAVE INDEED STARTED, AND TOMORROW, THE FUNDS FOR THESE REDEMPTIONS START FLOWING. GOING TO BE A MASSIVE WEEK OF ACTIVITY IN THIS REGARD AS MANY HAVE ALREADY BEEN CLOSED, PAID, BUT MONEY WENT TO ESCROW UNTIL THE FUNDS ARE RELEASED. THEN THE FORMAL SETTLEMENTS CAN BE DONE, THEN THE RV.

How long will it take to complete the redemptions?

ABOUT 2 YEARS TO GET ALL THE OLD DEBT TAKEN OUT OF THE SYSTEM, SYSTEMATICALLY. NOT A FIVE MINUTE JOB.

Is paying the countries just a push of a button?

NO. IT IS A CAREFUL IDENTIFICATION PROCESS, THEN NEGOTIATION, THEN SETTLEMENT. THEN A BUTTON IS PUSHED, AND DEBT IS ZEROED.

Does each phase have to be completed before we can move to the next phase?

YES. THE ONLY CAVEAT IS THAT ONCE A PROCESS IS STARTED AND VALIDLY EXISTING, THE NEXT PHASE CAN KICK IN AND BEGIN. IT OVERLAPS.

We have been told that the F&P is sitting in the US and is not part of the program funds. If this is true then why can't the F&P be paid out now?

IT CAN, BUT THE CABAL HAS BLOCKED IT AT EVERY TURN. THE FURTHER CIRCUMSTANCE IS THAT THE REDEMPTIONS MUST BEGIN BEFORE THAT IS EVEN CONSIDERED BEING LET OUT.

Does the F&P have to be paid out before the new system comes in or does that make a difference?

NO. THE NEW SYSTEM WILL BE IN PLACE FOR THE F&P. THE NEW SYSTEM WILL SUPPORT THE RELEASE. THIS IS IMPORTANT. OTHERWISE WE COULD HAVE ECONOMIC CHAOS, AND THIS IS WHAT UNCLE SAM DOES NOT NEED.

Are we waiting for the new banking year to start Oct. 1 to move ahead with our payout?

PRETTY WELL SO IN MY OPINION. AGAIN COMMON SENSE. WITH THE NEW BANKING YEAR'S WE CAN HAVE A NEW SYSTEM IN PLACE AND ACTIVE, SO OUT WITH THE OLD, IN WITH THE NEW.

What are the chances that our F&P will be coming out by the end of October, 50%, 80%, 90%, 100% or sometime in November?

NO COMMENT BUT REALLY REALLY CLOSE.

Does Basel III, the part that will allow us to be paid, have to be in place before Oct 1 when the new banking year starts?

BASEL III IS ONLY THE PROTOCOL UPON WHICH THE NEW SYSTEM WILL STAND ON. WIKIPEDIA DEFINES IT AS:

global, voluntary regulatory standard on bank capital adequacy, stress testing and market liquidity risk. It was agreed upon by the members of the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision in 2010–11, and was scheduled to be introduced from 2013 until 2015; changes from April 1, 2013 extended implementation until March 31, 2018 however.[1][2] The third installment of the Basel Accords (see Basel I, Basel II) was developed in response to the deficiencies in financial regulation revealed by the late-2000s financial crisis. Basel III was supposed to strengthen bank capital requirements by increasing bank liquidity and decreasing bank leverage

A lot of the folks in the programs are in their latter years and fear they will not understand the process of receiving their deliveries and funds. They have heard about the non disclosure and are afraid that if they talk to anyone at all even sons or daughters or sign a delivery slip at the door that they will be breaking a non disclosure agreement. Would you please make a few comments regarding these issues?

NON-DISCLOSURE WILL BE SPECIFIC AS TO WHAT CAN BE SAID OR NOT. ACCEPTING A DELIVERY DOES NOT BREAK NON-DISCLOSURE SO THEY ARE SAFE.

Who can we talk to?

YOUR WIFE OR HUSBAND, YOUR BANKER, YOUR LAWYER, ETC. BUT HANGING OUT ON THE STREET CORNER AND TELLING EVERYBODY ABOUT IT IS A VIOLATION.

Who do we listen to for the correct information? Should we fear any problems with the Cabal?

LISTEN TO ALL THE INFORMATION OUT THERE, AND DO NOT DO ANYTHING OR ACT ON THIS INFORMATION UNTIL SOME PERIOD OF TIME PASSES, AND YOU CAN SEE WHETHER IT IS CORRECT OR NOT. SCAMS FALL APART IN A MATTER OF MINUTES OR DAYS SO BE PATIENT, AND THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS COME OUT. THERE WILL BE GOOD SOLID INFORMATIONS COMING OUT FROM SELECT SOURCES. THEY WILL BE TRUSTWORTHY. IF I GET SUCH INFORMATION, I WILL SPEAK.

Recently the pretense of a war with Syria has been on everyone's mind. Most Americans and many other peoples are tired of war the profiteering that wars create for those in influential positions and positions of power and wealth. What conclusions can we draw from these new agreements to settle things peacefully and expediently?

THEY DID NOT RECEIVE SOME TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS THEY NEEDED TO GET THAT WAR UNDERWAY AND INSTALL MORE FEAR AND MARTIAL LAW. IT FELL APART. SO NO CHOICE BUT TO DO IT PEACEFULLY. YAY TEAM.

Has the Cabal finally been put in a position that prevents a war from starting?

YES.

Are there other forces controlling this new outcome for a peaceful settlement?

YES. MANY. AND THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE US ARMED FORCES, AND THEIR STAND OF “PISS OFF” IN RESPECT OF ANOTHER WAR WENT A LONG WAY TOWARDS THE PEACEFUL SOLUTION. OBAMA LISTENED WELL.

Is this a sign that our programs and payouts are truly going to happen quickly now?

YES IT IS. IT IS THE TIME OF OUR HUMANITY RISING PAST THE OLD AND INTO THE NEW PARADIGM. IT IS OUR EVOLUTION. THERE ARE A GREAT MANY THINGS IN PLACE ALREADY FOR THIS TIME.

THE MATRIX FUNDS ARE READY FOR RELEASE, THE DEBTS WILL BE ZEROED, AND WE WILL ALL GET TO THE WORK. THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AWAIT.

AND THIS WEEK WILL SEE THE FIRST FUNDS RELEASED, AND THE PRELIMINARY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE PROJECT SIDE PUT IN PLACE. REMEMBER IT IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY, BUT PEOPLE, AND WHAT WE CAN DO TO RECONSTRUCT THIS BLUE BALL WE CALL HOME. FOCUS ON THAT, AND THE MONEY WILL COME BY ITSELF TO HELP.

IN LOVE AND LIGHT IN OUR SERVICE

ZAP

“GOD IS; I AM; WE ARE”

“BE GOOD, BE LEGAL, TELL TRUTH”

POOF Says.....Sometimes you can tell more by who stuck a sock in it, than the daily back and forth that goes on out here. I know some folks who used to swagger with power out here, are having a hard time breathing right now, as their power has been stripped of them and their greatest fears are being realized. Whole piles of attorneys can't even help them now, as the brave new world dawns upon them, and shines it's light upon their dark deeds. Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

All other events have been confirmed from many directions, so we wait with great anticipation, as the whole sole of the final shoe drops across this world.

That's it, can't say anymore. There are details it wouldn't be prudent to be dropping out here, let them finish, all of it will become clear anyhow.

Consultations upon request until the doorbell rings.

Love and Kisses,

Susan & Staff

Office of Poofness

P.S. Many of our loyal subscribers have had trouble receiving the newsletter recently. I have sent them.....but our email service located in Tel Aviv seems to be having server problems, possibly due to the unrest in that part of the world, causing us problems getting the newsletter out to you. Please go to www.rumormillnews.comreading room to view the latest newsletter if your newsletter does not arrive by Sunday evening. As soon as our server problems clear up we will continue to send out the newsletters just as we always have.

Thanks,

Susan 

ARIZONAHEAT POST, 15 SEPTEMBER

09/15/13 
[ArizonaHeat] Here is something you need to take in, The next time you hear of Iraq cashing in or Iraq has revalued and they are all rich or spending money.

1) We ?the US? are the basis of which currencies are valued in the most part.

 2) All international currencies are traded in the foreign exchange (forex)

 3) the forex value of the US dollar in comparison to other currencies changes on a day to day basis. Such as the GBP. Right now I believe the GBP to the dollar is 1.59. so that means 1 us dollar is worth 1.59 to the GBP. The point im trying to make here is that when the Dinar revalues and goes international, that rate will be on the forex. So to make math simple, say the Dinar revalues at 4.00 That means that 1 US dollar in Iraq would be worth 25cents. Now what would the dinar be valued at in Iraq?

 Well 1 dinar would be worth 1 dinar. So before the revaluation if any Iraqi holds 25000.00 dinar note his dinar after the RV will be worth 25000.00 dinars. No more no less. The revaluation process is going to bring wealth to the Iraq people by giving them a higher purchasing power. This was that 1 gallon of milk that now cost 2000.00 dinar will now cost 1 dinar. Making it easier for the Iraqi people to buy goods and services on a local basis.

 The RV will not make the people of Iraq rich overnight. It will however gradually ease the pain of buying simplistic items you and I take for granted everyday. At this time the government of Iraq supplies food and durable good to the people of Iraq. It is in no way adequate to their needs. But in time after the RV and the price of food and services will be obtainable to the people of Iraq, the food subsidies will diminish and the Iraq people will have the wealth from the HCL agreement for each family in Iraq. There by making them one of the wealthiest countries in the world. So stories of an Iraq revaluation and someone being rich in Iraq is false and misleading

LOECHIN POST, 15 SEPTEMBER

5:31 PM PT (loechin] Quiet as a church mouse tonight 
(loechin] Dad had a good day 
(donk] loechin are we at plan b I have not been following 
(loechin] No, plan A 
(loechin] A is the plan we want $20 plus 
(loechin] VND and IQD same basket
 (loechin] It could go anytime 
(loechin] Ok BBL tonight

POPPY3 POST, 15 SEPTEMBER

9-15-2013 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3: i...expect to hear great news in the coming days. I have been told from a great source that given the committee's that are meeting daily finish with agreements ready to place in front of the full parliament when they next convene.  if all goes as planned we will at this time be planning our exchange of currency before the end of sept. if these committee's don't reach agreements prior to the next full parliament meeting then we could see further delays into october. I have received a message today from a great source that they could possibly make a rate change next week. He was not sure of this timing but he had been told last wed. that a push was being made to meet monday as a deadline.  he stated that he had never been told that the meetings had completed their task or not and that they may have already completed the agreements and if so then all the parliament would need to complete is the vote on banking laws and the hcl so the public can get paid.  EITHER WAY...WE CAN SEE THAT OUR WAIT IS ABOUT OVER AND THE BLESSING IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER FROM WHERE WE ARE TODAY. 

TNT CHAT, 15 SEPTEMBER

TNT:

(Already Blessed] tony is still watching for it to happen any time so monday is still looking good to us

(tiffer213] My daughter is a manager in a major hotel chain that has entertained Middle eastern royalty. She has spoken to Iraqi visitors and has been told the dinar has Rv'd and the people are buying things that they have never been able to. My daughter is an owner of IQD. JP Ponie ...

lxxxxxx] Quiet as a church mouse tonight …Dad had a good day (donk] lxxxxxxxx are we at plan b I have not been following (lxxxxxxx] No plan A …. A is the plan we want $20 plus ……..VND and IQD same basket…….It could go anytime

[dizzybear] Okay Kids, is it JUST me OR are things starting to line up!! The Congress seems to be disinterested in the urgency of continuing resolution for the federal budget, you know BY September 30th or a ..... shutdown?? Then, neither Larry Summers or Tim Gheitner want the Fe Chairmanship, maybe cuz it won't exist after a reset... maybe? Hmmmmm, kids, I think we're at the end of the line! Too many big things are NOT being talked about!!! WHY??
[derosegirl] Should be an interesting week with the National Meeting in Iraq on the 19th of this week (which we have been waiting for so they can pass the HCL Law),Wall St. Journal posted the emerging market were going to blast OUT on the 19th(someone posted that link, also we will be 30 days before our new asset backed currency is to come out on or near the 18th or 19th (I believe that is why they are giving us 30 days to cash out at a high rate) They need to have this foreign currency so become Basel 3 complaiant This is my speculation! :} I think this is our week !!!!

[gramsnjesus] derosegirl great post

[derosegirl] Sorry that was Oct.18 or 19th our currency is to come(asset backed) out that gives them 30days needed for us to cash out. Also they need a tradable currency to be able pass the HCL law Folks have you plans! I feel everything is in line!!

[lxxxxxx] Getting many calls tonight... All I will say is if everything will stay in place then this could be our week. I don't look for tomorrow but come on baby after that....

[derosegirl] lxxxxxxx I totally agree this is our week I just posted all the things happening this week here and in Iraq! Anyway from here to Thursday!!

[gmancometh] I will check under my bed tonight for the RV monster. If he is there, I will slay him, then we can have our RV. OK, I'm losing it.

[dizzybear] the usual reason for NOT on Monday is the weekend international banking books get reconciled over the Sunday/Monday account update period... so, it's VERY UNLIKELY there would be cash distributions on Monday... just ain't enough time in the day.....

[alwaysconfused] It could still RV tomorrow and we could be in the banks on Tuesday.

[GJHHonor] Blaino said that the VND COULD COME before the IQD at .47

  [rednckmomma] anything is possible on this little ride of ours

[brokerman] dizzybear so the RV can only happen Tues-Thurs??

[dizzybear] Brokerman.... since EVERYONE plans to cash out OR exchange dinar, Monday is a hard day for that to happen,,, but after Monday... Yep, everything would be ready for the rest of the week.

[brokerman] dizzybear so when Tony says to look for it EVERY morning that doesn't mean MONDAY...

[FLAfellow] ♫♫Monday Monday, hope to trust that day, Monday Monday, sometimes it goes my way Oh Monday morning, you gave me no warning of what was to be Oh Monday Monday, come on and bring to us RV?♫♫

[FLAfellow] ♫♫Every other day, every other day, Every other day of the week is fine, yeah But whenever Monday comes, but whenever Monday comes The guru's say it is finally time....♫♫

[FLAfellow] ♫♫Monday Monday, be good to me, Monday Monday, I need a text from sensored pleeeeease. Oh Monday morning, Monday morning please guarantee That Monday evening we would all millionaires be.♫♫

[FLAfellow] ♫♫Every other day, every other day, Every other day of the week we hear, yeah That whenever Monday comes, that whenever Monday comes It will be an RV cheer....♫♫

[WarBear20] FLAfellow . are you caling it for monday ! ? lol

[FLAfellow] WarBear20 .. Im calling it every day ... like all the rest lol

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 15 SEPTEMBER

9-15-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru Arthur     Article Quote: "Which will enhance confidence of the world."  Just opening up the dinar from the worthlessness it is to a floating regime will not "enhance the confidence of the world" and do it "in the coming weeks" as they clearly just announced.   IMO the finance committee who controls the CBI is saying that their economy is about to have POSITIVE GROWTH which could be directly attributed to the improvement in the rate of the Iraqi Dinar which will then, IN THE COMING WEEKS, give the world a new confidence in their economy. Seems to me they are in effect announcing a full blown RV in the coming weeks.  [post 3 of 3]

9-15-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru Arthur    Why would the Finance Committee be clamoring almost daily for a stronger dinar commensurate with its oil production and exporting capacity, its gold, and its foreign currency reserves if you were just gonna float it from toilet paper?  Why would you need to form a new committee just 72 hours ago to set what they called "the equal price of the dollar to the dinar" if all you were planning to do was float it from where it was?  They could've done that anytime without passing the new RV laws they are about to pass.  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

9-15-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru Arthur   Although no one can know for sure the way this is gonna start till after the fact, IMO there are several problems with the float from 1166 theory... I have looked at the articles in question and am not seeing enough evidence to make that leap mainly because it is totally contradictory to other things they have done and are doing toward preparing for this revaluation.  [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

9-15-2013  Newshound Guru Doc   We had our currency experts do an interesting exercise.  They calculated today's value based on starting with the value during Sadam's reign and adjusting for increased money supply, inflation and current oil output.  The results were in the range of 50 cents to $1.  This is telling in that all mid term goals stated by the CBI, SIGR, etc. has not changed from the $1 target.   Our opinion remains that the immediate $3+ opinions have no concrete foundation.  The most likely scenario and one the CBI has indicated is a float which we believe will progress to the $1 range gien  appropriate time including oil output increases.  Unfortunately even this scenario is awaiting the GOI to do its part and pass the necessary supporting laws.  We report, you decide.  [post 2 of 2]

9-15-2013  Newshound Guru Doc   Many rumors continue and time has proven all false.  Obviously the "at any moment" crowd has been shown inaccurate.  Other arguments which are incorrect are the value will "increase to that of Kuwait because if it is lower then Iraq will not be getting equal value for its oil" and hence it has to RV at $3+.  This statement simply reflects a lack of understanding of global currency markets and can easily be seen as false when looking at Saudi.  Saudi's currency is $0.27.  Does this mean Saudi gets less for its oil then Kuwait?  Of coarse not.  The fact is oil is priced in USD and not the local currency.  Each country receives USD and then converts to local currency.  It is irrelevant the value of their local currency.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

9-15-2013  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Article:  "The need for governmental sector efficient and highly productive. Our strong foundations for a stable dinar"   Some good quotes for sure in that from Shabs..."We have succeeded in maintaining the purchasing power of the dinar and stability in spite of the problems of political stability and inefficient implementation of the government investment budget."  "The auction process and mechanism begins to withdraw the Iraqi currency and ease pressure on the market and is being done through swap cash dinars dollar..."   Sure seems that Shabibi is trying to convey a sound message of good monetary policy.  He clearly mentions an.."urgent need for an efficient government sector and high productivity"  which is telling the GOI/Maliki and parliament to get moving.  It's time.

9-15-2013  Intel Guru TD    Remember they have drawn a drop dead date of completion of their currency reform as of June 2014 and work to achieve the stability of the currency takes time for market forces to take hold. SEPTEMBER 30th/OCTOBER 1st though remains viable BUT subject to parliament agreements & closure when they meet September 24th & onward.  [post 2 of 2]

9-15-2013  Intel Guru TD   Today's meeting did not go as hoped. There was no consensus reached by all blocs regarding elements of the all critical HCL Law. Therefore strike September 17th as a possibility of a major announcement. Well like I said...with Iraqi affairs you can AT BEST be cautiously optimistic. My contact did confirm though that pressure is mounting from all sides and time is getting short.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

9-15-2013  Newshound Guru Doc   For all practical matters we are exactly where we reported several weeks ago.  We also anticipate we will be here for many more weeks.  There has been no further movement in passing the remaining laws needed to support currency reform in the long term. All is no where close to complete.  In fact Parliament will not reconvene for another week.  In our last update we pointed out HCl would not be considered until at the earliest this upcoming session.  We eagerly await to see if it will be addressed. Our opinion continues that currency reform will not happen until there supporting laws are passed.  The stated stated back drop for the "delete the zeros" project is June 2014 and not tomorrow or next month.  The are many articles calling for it which we view as positive.   

9-15-2013  Intel Guru Jester    I AM STILL AWARE IT COULD BE A BIT OF TIME...AND NOW EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING THE SAME... MOSTLY ANYWAY.  I SURE HOPE I AM WRONG.  [A bit...as in...this year?]   I DO THINK WE WILL BE FINE BY THEN.

ARTHUR POST, 15 SEPTEMBER

Post By Bailey2
[12:49:51 AM] Arthur:
(ARTHUR) Someone asked me what do I think about the idea that there is no RV as we think it is and the IQD is just gonna float from 1166. 

Although no one can know for sure the way this is gonna start till after the fact, IMO there are several problems with the float from 1166 theory not the least of which is the way I believe they have added their own extra dimension to the "floating regime" articles that isn't there, 

but the most glaring discrepancy now is the fact that, he first started theorizing this early in the year back in March and April. 
  Back then there may have been time for the natural forces of the currency markets to push the dinar to a 1 to 1 by January 2014.

But as you can see we are about to enter the final quarter of 2013 leaving little time for this to happen by the January 2014 date they have specified, and the longer we go, the less credibility this theory maintains.

Kaperoni and others have honed in on few Iraqi articles over the past few months where they mention they will follow a "floating regime" after revaluing the dinar, meaning that the IQD would float according to supply on the world currency markets.

Although these articles do appear to indicate a free float they are taking another jump and saying that the articles are implying that this "floating regime" will start from the 1166 dinars to the USD.

 I have looked at the articles in question and am not seeing enough evidence to make that leap mainly because it is totally contradictory to other things they have done and are doing toward preparing for this revaluation.

Why would the Finance Committee be clamoring almost daily for a stronger dinar commensurate with its oil production and exporting capacity, its gold, and its foreign currency reserves if you were just gonna float it from toilet paper?

Why would you need to form a new committee just 72 hours ago to set what they called "the equal price of the dollar to the dinar" if all you were planning to do was float it from where it was?

They could've done that anytime without passing the new RV laws they are about to pass.

AND LOOK AT THIS LATEST ARTICLE:

Finance committee member sighted POSITIVE GROWTH of Iraqi economy through CURRENCY RATE IMPROVEMENT

14 Sep 2013

Haidar Al-Abadi, the Parliamentary Finance Committee stated, “THE COMING WEEKS will see more IMPROVEMENT IN THE VALUE OF THE DINAR AGAINST THE DOLLAR which will enhance the confidence of the world.”

Look at the last sentence.  "Which will enhance confidence of the world."

Just opening up the dinar from the worthlessness it is to a floating regime will not "enhance the confidence of the world" and do it "in the coming weeks" as they clearly just announced.

IMO the finance committee who controls the CBI is saying that their economy is about to have POSITIVE GROWTH which could be directly attributed to the improvement in the rate of the Iraqi Dinar which will then, IN THE COMING WEEKS, give the world a new confidence in their economy.

Seems to me they are in effect announcing a full blown RV in the coming weeks.

NESARA UPDATE, 15 SEPTEMBER

Nesara BlogSpot: John MacHaffie
RV/RESET Rumors

CONFIRMED - UPDATE Sign off of the Syria Peace Agreement in Geneva has been accomplished. RV TO FOLLOW!

RUMOR - New International Court being established to offset the Hague which has been corrupted. When in place, arrests will be processed.

INTEL GURUS have been requested to be silent this weekend. DO NOT CALL the banks.

JESTER CHAT, 15 SEPTEMBER

[Jester] AFTER MONTHS OF LISTENING TO THE SAME THING OVER AN OVER I WAS REMINDED THAT THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS... DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT...

NOW NOT WANTING TO ADMIT THAT I MIGHT BE LEANING THAT DIRECTION... I SIMPLY SET OUT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE HECK I WAS MISSING...

BECAUSE IF I CANNOT ACCEPT THE INSANITY PLEA THEN I HAD TO GET MY BUTT IN GEAR AND ADMIT I DIDN'T KNOW AS MUCH AS I THOUGHT I DID...

SO WE WENT LOOKING... AND IT TOOK SOME TIME...

[Jester] SO LET ME DO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT TO THINK ABOUT TONIGHT...
[Jester] LETS SAY WE KNOW THERE IS A RESET... A GLOBAL RESET OF 192 COUNTRIES... AND WE HAVE POSTULATED THAT ALL COUNTRIES WILL BE VALUED TO THE EXTENT OF THEIR NATURAL RESOURCES AND GOLD...

WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR SOME TIME.. YOU ARE WITH ME SO FAR RIGHT?

 [dharma37] Jester yes... Go on..

[Americana] Jester 10-4

[Jester] SO WE HAVE ALSO BEEN AWARE THE ARE WAITING ON THIS SYSTEM AND THAT SYSTEM AND CIX AND BANKS AND FOREX ETC. ETC.... RIGHT?

[Hannah] yep

[Truth] Yes, Jester.

 [Jester] SO WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME ANYONE HEARD OF A SYSTEM ISSUE... AND KEEP IN MIND I WAS SAYING THERE WERE NO SYSTEM ISSUES FOR A LONG TIME BEFORE EVERYONE ELSE QUIT DOING IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SEE IT THAT WAY... HENCE THE DAWNING OF THE IDEA... BUT NO ONE ELSE HAS MENTIONED A GLITCH OR SYSTEM ISSUE IN A COUPLE WEEKS... HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT?

 [RoseRedTyler] Jester check

[AdmrKris] si

Jester] NOW GO BACK ABOUT 2-3 MONTHS... REDWOLF USED TO GIVE ME A REPOT EVERY DAY TALKING ABOUT CURRENCIES DOING THIS OR THAT OR THE OTHER THING... AND WE'D GET EXCITED ABOUT IT AND REPORT IT IN THE ROOM AND EVERYONE WOULD GO OK WHATEVER.... AND GET BACK ON THE NEAREST PHONE CALL... REMEMBER?

 [Jester] OK... POSTULATE WHAT THE RESET IS... THE ADJUSTMENT OF THE VALUES OF THE RESEPCTIVE CURRENCIES... AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT ALL ALONG...

DO A HISTORY OF WHAT THE CURRENCIES HAVE BEEN DOING OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS... SOME ARE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THEY WERE... SOME UP AND SOME DOWN.... BUT INTUITAVELY THE DIRECTIONS YOU WOULD EXPECT IN THE COUNTRIES THAT ARE MOVING AROUND...

[Jester] THEY ARE DOING IT A LITTLE AT A TIME... OVER TIME... AND THEY ARE GETTING THEM WHERE THEY BELONG...

HeartLand] Jester stealth mode-like

[shark] Jester -Wish the iqd and vnd will change......lol

[Jester] shark THE IQD IS NOT TRADEABLE... IT IS PEGGED... IT CANNOT CHANGE...

[gretco] So its not going to be all the currencies at once? 8)

[fidahu] So where does that leave us? I thought the Chinese wanted our dinar. Is there any chance of the whales cashing out and something happening to keep us little guys from exchanging?

 [Jester] AND I DO NOT KNOW HOW THE DONG AND THE RUPIAH AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS STARTED... THEY WERE ALREADY HERE WHEN I ARRIVED... SO NOT SURE HOW THAT WILL ACTUALLY GO AT THIS TIME... IS IT A DINAR LAND RUMOR? THAT IS ANOTHER THING WE ARE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW... HOW DID THAT START? WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?

[VenusVisitor] Jester where are you going with this? IQD is floating? Purple Pigs are in flight?

[Jester] WE TOOK TI AT FACE VALUE... BUT I HAVE NEVER HEARD AN ACTUAL GOOD REASON FOR THEM SHOWING UP IN THE DEALERS PAGES...

 [Jester] SO WE ARE PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER NOW...

[constitution] it would be so nice if the would -get the good people of Iraq where they belong they so are deserving of this

 [Jester] constitution YOU ARE ASSUMING THE SAME THING EVERYONE ELSE ASSUMES.... THAT THE RV WILL HELP THEM SIGNIFICANTLY THE WAY TI WILL HELP US... IN THE END A DINAR IS STILL A DINAR THERE...

[Jester] THEIR BUYING POWER OUTSIDE IRAQ WILL INCREASE... WITH THE DINAR ANYWAY... BUT A DINAR IS STILL A DINAR IN COUNTRY....

[Lineman21] What's all this about calling the banks is what is holding this up. If that's the case, the bad guys have a way to stop this and they win. I'm not byeing it!!!!!

[zorro] Lineman21 I'm with U!!!

 [constitution] Jester withthe way you said the dinar is pegged that is the same as saying its stilla black balled currency in the USA right ?

 [Jester] CALLING THE BANKS HAS BEEN PART OF THE PROBLEM... THEY NOW CONSIDER US UNRULY... LOL

[gretco] Jester are you trying to break something to us as you did before?

[Jester] gretco NOPE... JUST GIVING YOU SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT... WE HAVEN'T GOT THERE YET... TELLING YOU WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON....

[Jester] I AM STILL AWARE IT COULD BE A BIT OF TIME.... AND NOW EVERYONE ELSE IS SAYING THE SAME... MOSTLY ANYWAY.... SO I WOULD SUGGEST MAKING SURE YOU ALL DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO MAKE SURE YOUR FAMILIES ARE TAKEN CARE OF IN THE MEANTIME... JUST LIKE I DID BEFORE...

[VenusVisitor] Jester, please what are you trying to say....

[Jester] VenusVisitor SEE? YOU WANT THE INFO BUT THEN YOU DON'T LIKE IT... THERE IS NO TRANSLATION... I AM SAYING IT AS PLAINLY AS POSSIBLE...

[Savannah] Jester A bit....as in....this year?

Jester] Savannah I DO THINK WE WILL BE FINE BY THEN...

 [constitution] Jester i am going to ask one more thing . as long as the IQD is on the black ball list of unecceptable currencies here in the country even if they did RV , the US would still have to remove the iqd from the black ball list of unexceptable currencies right ?

[Jester] constitution WELL I HAVE NOT HEARD IT WS BLACKBALLED... THAT IS NEW... WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?

[Cher] Jester Are you sure that the things you are waiting to see must be pre RV?

[Jester] Cher OK... YOU CAN TRY TO SECOND GUESS WHAT I AM TELLING YOU THAT WAY TOO... BUT EVERYONE ELSE IS JUMPING ON THIS CART WITH ME OVER THE LAST WEEK... SO WHY DO YOU NOT BELEIVE WHAT I AM TELLING YOU NOW?

[Lake Lady] In otherwords, you're telling me to go get a job??? :o

[Jester] Lake Lady UMMMM.... IF YOU CANNOT MAKE IT TO THE END OF THE YEAR WITHOUT ONE YES... I DON'T THINK IT WILL GO THAT FAR... I SURE HOPE I AM WRONG... BUT WHAT IF IT DOES? ARE YOU PREPARED FOR THAT?

[Lineman21] The bad guys having been winning for going on 100 years. They have had are presidents shot to keep control. Every year it's the same song and dance. Looks like the bad guys won again.

 [Jester] Lineman21 THAT IS NOT THE CASE.. AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT IS WHAT IS TAKING LONGER... WITHOUT A DOUBT... THE BAD GUYS WILL NOT WIN.. IT IS JUST TAKING LONGER TO MAKE SURE..

[lulu] Jester thank you for keeping it real, we all need to live our lives I have a friend hanging on every guru word I get that Some people really need this but living our lives positively and believing enmass is the best way through this

[Jester] I AM SORRY FOLKS... I AM SPEAKING PLAIN ENGLISH... I SIMPLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM SAYING...

[Kermit53] Bad Guys are being hurt in the pocket book big time

 [Jester] Kermit53 YOU GOT THAT RIGHT... THEY ARE HURTING BAD... AND WE MUST MAKE SURE THEY KEEP HURTING TO MAKE SURE IT ALL GOES RIGHT....

[zorro] Jester I'ts getting closer all the time! Not IMO, it's a fact Jack :)

[Jester] zorro AND THAT IS THE TRUTH.. AND THE WAITING WILL BE WORTH IT... BECAUSE THEN IT WILL TRULY BE YOURS...

[zorro] Jester And our kids, and their kids; YES!

[Jester] AND THAT IS THE PLAINEST I CAN WRITE THE STATEMENT.. IT MUST GET DONE RIGHT... OR THE BAD GUYS WILL BE RIGHT BACK IN BUSINESS...

[jeff548] Jester What are you now all of a sudden saying....this is the reason why people call it a scam... one moment hipe hipe hipe then now you pull it all back like you never said any of it would happen.

[Jester] jeff548 YOU ARE NOT LISTENING ARE YOU? I HAVE EXPLAINED THAT MANY TIMES AND YOU SIMPLY CHOOSE TO IGNORE IT...

[zorro] Jester You always said "no date, no rate" and "fluid situation". You can lead the horse to water but sometimes the thing wont drink (or read). IMO. Thanks for staying the course!

[Jester] BEEN A NICE NIGHT... I REALLY ENJOYED THE VISITING... IT WAS A NICE CHANGE....

[Jester] TAKE CARE... GOD BLESS YOU ALL.. AND GOD BLESS AMERICA...