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Tuesday, September 3, 2013

EAGLE1'S UPDATE, 3 SEPTEMBER

• Eagle1’s update: his team tried to purchase VND on the forex yesterday and again today (they are active traders and can trade even on holidays); 

they were blocked both yesterday and today – they tried to purchase the Indonesian Rupiah and the IQN (new symbol for the IQD) and had the same result – blocked from purchase; 

they are also seeing a lot of strange things on their screens, and believe it’s due to the global currency reset being imminent 

• Eagle1 and Frank agree that the GOI and CBI are not in control, the IMF is

• Eagle1 said his sources are still stating that the release is imminent, and Sept 5 is the date in their opinion that if the rate is not released, they will pull the trigger

• Eagle1’s opinion is that he would be astonished not to see the rate this month

• Frank asked the family to check with WF locations if they have a De Le Rue machine, but don’t say anything about the dinar

Bluestar came on the call at this point

• Bluestar noted that there is no WF exchange center in Washington DC; Bluestar asked Eagle1’s opinion; Eagle1’s opinion is that WF may open up exchange locations there; Frank reminded that there are other banks in DC which will also exchange

• Bluestar raised concerns about WF capability – Frank reminded how secretive WF is still being (saying the IQD is a scam) so they are not going to disclose their exchange facility plan

• Bluestar reported that a high elected US official was visited by a high ranking China official; this was a confirmed meeting but Bluestar does not want to go into specifics; Frank replied that China has a voice in this, but the IMF is in control; Frank reminded that China has no ability or authority to release the global currency reset

• Eagle1 said China is one of 8 leading central banks in the IMF, so they have a real voice, but they are not the only voice

• Frank stated all his teams are on full red alert, and are taking the month of September as red alert

• Eagle1 said all systems are tested, forex and bank screens are already loaded with the new rates, but no information on exactly when they will release it

• Bluestar asked if the family will look into forex; they normally do 47.9 trillion per day in exchanges – look at what forex is doing to see if there is loss

• Frank’s opinion is that the 2014 budget will be in front of parliament on Thursday, and Frank and his teams are hopeful that the rate is in the 2014 budget

• Bluestar has heard a rumor that there are a very select few that have received loaded and active Qi cards, they are very specific individuals who have performed important things for Iraq; 

Eagle1 said he has heard the same rumor, and he said that there are those who have new cars, appliances, new clothing, cell phones…. Something is happening

• Frank said he has always stated there are those who are being rewarded, including some foreign investors that are allowed in now; Frank said also that all Qi cards are not the same – they are different depending on what department the individuals work in, pensioners, gov’t employees, etc.

TK CHAT UPDATE: 9:03 PM EST, 3 SEPTEMBER

HEY BIG AL
[TERRYK] GUESS IT MIGHT HELP IF I UNGHOST
[TERRYK]   LOL
[TERRYK] HEY SIS
[Agent 007] hey
[TERRYK] SO I'M STILL HEARING LATE TONIGHT
[TERRYK] NOTHING HAS CHANGED
[okdinar]   How are you feeling
[TERRYK] DOUBLE DIGITS
[dkg]    is this our rv night
[TERRYK] I'M STILL SORE OK THANKS FOR ASKING
[melissahawkins] [Beach]Im great....hoping tonight is REALLY our night!
[mark7] Hey TK
[TERRYK] BE NICE RIGHT
[Agent 007] it sure would
[TERRYK] BUT I TELL U I'M NOT HOLDING MY BREATH
[mack]  TK. . . do you think we need a few more weeks?
[TERRYK] I HAVE BEEN DOWN THIS PATH SO MANY TIMES SINCE APRIL 4TH WHEN THIS WAS A SURE THING
[TERRYK] WHO KNOWS MACK
[ladysarah] Well tomorrow is the 4th again
[TERRYK] DEPENDS ON IF WE CAN GET PAST ALL THE PROCEDURES
[TERRYK] AND CODES
[TERRYK] AND O
[TERRYK] YEA IT IS LADYSARAH
[dkg]  TK do you know what UU5422 means
[TERRYK] TELL ME
[TERRYK] SOUNDS LIKE A SUB
[TERRYK] OH THAT WAS U2 THE BAND
[TERRYK]  LOL
[dkg]   TK I don't know Mountain Goat said 95% knows what this is and it is who is holding this up I am the 5% who has no clue hope you do
[TERRYK] DID U GOOGLE IT
[dkg] no
[TERRYK] WHY NOT
[dkg] didn't think about it
[TERRYK] IT JUST MAYBE JOHN KERRY
[TERRYK] RIGHT
[TERRYK] I WOULD SUGGEST YOU READ THE CREATURE FROM JECKLE ISLAND
[TERRYK] AND THAT WILL ANSWER YOUR UU5422
[TERRYK] IT'S ABOUT THE GOOD GUYS AND THE BAD GUYS AND WHO IS DOING WHAT HOLDING THIS UP TO GET MORE FROM WHAT THEY DON'T REALLY DESERVE
[TERRYK] IT'S WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR 4 YEARS
[TERRYK] AND MOST JUST STICK THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND
[TERRYK] AND NOW THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS TALKING ABOUT THIS EVERYONE IS GOING OH WOW OH WHOOO
[realism] Do you have a link for that TK?
[TERRYK] BUT HEY THAT'S OK
[TERRYK] GO INTO OUR FORUM
[TERRYK] IT'S ALL THERE
[TERRYK] THING 1 TALK IS SUCH A GOOD START
[TERRYK] I FOUND MY COPY YESTERDAY AND WENT BACK INTO  IT
[TERRYK] I SUGGEST YOU ALL GET A COPY AND READ IT
[THJ]  So how can the bankng cartel still be holding this up?
[TERRYK] HEY ATJ
[TERRYK] UNTIL THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT
[TERRYK] OR POSITION THEMSELVES IN A SITUATION THAT MAKES THEM ALOT OF MONEY
[TERRYK] WELL I DO HAVE THIS
[TERRYK] THAT THE MARSHALLS ARE ON NOTICE
[TERRYK] FOR TONIGHT
[TERRYK] THEY ARE TOLD THAT THEY CAN NOT GO HOME UNTIL THE PP ARE DELIVERED
[TERRYK] WHOO HOO
[js86901]  TK did you say you were losing hope? i just read that in another room..
[TERRYK] I FIND THAT A LITTLE MUCH
[TERRYK] BUT HEY IT'S COOL
[TERRYK] NOPE NEVER SAID THAT
[TERRYK] ROOM DID I SAY THAT
[mimirose]  Nope 
[js86901] i didn't think so... you are the most positive guy i know!
[js86901]   so you think this is for real this time?
[TERRYK] I'M A HOPIN
[js86901]  where do you think we will see it first?
[TERRYK] CBI
[TERRYK] WELL I'M CONCERNED ABOUT SYRIA ORDEAL AND WHAT THIS WILL DO TO THIS
[TERRYK] IF ANYTHING
[TERRYK] I THINK ALL WILL COME TO THEIR SENSES
[subtle] kinda matches with what zap said....3rd and 4th for pps to START being delivered
[TERRYK] WHEN DID ZAP SAY THAT
[TERRYK] HE DID NOT EMAIL ME
[TERRYK] AND I USALLY GET EMAILS 
[TERRYK] FROM HIM
[subtle] sunday
[TERRYK] U ALL KNOW WHO THAT IS RIGHT
[TERRYK] SO U KNOW NANO THAT HE IS IN THE KNOW CORRECT
[laidback] hammerman
[TERRYK] NO
[TERRYK] IT'S NOT HAMMERMAN
[TERRYK]   LOL
[subtle] no way
[TERRYK] I SAID IN THE KNOW
[JT] I know everyone is waiting for TK to say something else. But, we can chat while we wait.
[TERRYK] SURE GO AHEAD
[TERRYK] I'M DONE
[TERRYK] JUST SITTING HERE TALKING TO A FEW SOURCES ON HERE IN PM
[js86901] 9-3-13 Dinarmaven: I've been in a technical career for over 35 years... banking, CTO, CEO, finance... I have never seen anything like this! The technical issues aside, we have seen this be a political football for months and a disappointment to the whole world...and we are just along for the ride. I know frustrations abound. Impatience reigns. Anger is somewhat below the surface for the people still waiting, INCLUDING IRAQ...from what I hear tonight, we are BACK. I expect big things to happen. My contacts are ready and have been told to be on alert- HIGH alert - for the next 24 hours.
[TERRYK] BIT = NOT MUCH
[TERRYK] I AGREE WITH THAT JS
[TERRYK] HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR THE PAST WEEK RIGHT
[JT]   All I can say is that God was watching over you and that it wasn't anymore serious than it was.
[TERRYK] SO LETS SEE WHERE IT GOES
[js86901]  that's good. it goes along with what I heard today as well...
[TERRYK] JT THAT IS SO TRUE
[TERRYK] YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TRUE
[TERRYK] I'M BUISED FROM MY RIGHT ANKLE TO THE TOP OF MY HEAD
[TERRYK] THAT UNIT WAS ABOUT 800 LBS THAT FELL ON ME
[JT] WOW!
[TERRYK] I DON'T KNOW HOW I GOT OUT FROM UNDER IT
[JT] By Gods grace.
[TERRYK] I HAVE DISASSEMBLED IT 
[TERRYK] AS SORE AS I WAS
[TERRYK] AND NOT USING IT AGAIN
[TERRYK] IT'S REALLY A WAREHOUSE SHELVEING UNIT HEAVY DUTY
[TERRYK] STEEL RACKING SYSTEM
[TERRYK] WITH 1INCH PLYWOOD AND 2 BY 10 CONSTRUCTION WITH
[TERRYK] LOADED CRATES OF STORAGE STUFF
[TERRYK] JUST STUPID WHAT I WAS DOING
[TERRYK] DUMB
[TERRYK] AND ALL BY MYSELF
[TERRYK] ONLY BY GODS GRACE
[JAD] SO TK, what are we hearing tonight???
[TERRYK] ALL I'M HEARING JAD IS THIS MAYBE GOING DOWN IN THE WEE HOURS AGAIN
[rich17]    Do you still believe the RV goes first...and then followed by the PP's?
[TERRYK] NO THEY ARE TO HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME
[TERRYK] IS WHAT I'M BEING TOLD NOW
[TERRYK] OK ALL TIME FOR MAY MASSAGE
[TERRYK] GOD BLESS U ALL
[TERRYK] SEE U RICH PEEPS 
[TERRYK] IN THE AM
[TERRYK] GOD BLESS YOU ALL

BLC ADMINISTRATOR SHREDD CHAT, 3 SEPTEMBER

Subject: BLC Administrator Shredd Chat 9/3/2013

[rsp1] Shredd Any words of wisdom for today?

[Shredd] ummmm, buy low and sell high lol,  we got the first part down  - seriously though, for me, until Turki speaks, I'm just waiting on the sidelines, we have no clue as to what his plan is re: zeros project

[rsp1] He has kinda disappeared from the limelight

[Shredd]  yes and even though the project is separate from the rate moving, they are closely related and dependent on one another. 

The small denoms cannot be introduced without a strong rate of at least par and the rate cannot free float right away, having the market determine rate and pace of increase without having small notes at the ready so, for me, I wait for the CBI to speak,] much more is happening that is very positive, many signs of progress, that is for sure
  [Shredd] I think it is very interesting the faster pace of budget talks I also love the continued pressure from the GOI to have strength to the dinar, we've never had support like that before.

I also like the unacceptance of the lag in dinar pricing ,again the perspective that since reserves are so high and now out of VII, it is expected that the dinar realize "significant" increase so, it's all good, just waiting for the horse's mouth instead of it's arse

Said a member of the Finance Committee MP / coalition of Kurdish blocs / Dler able, for the assignment corporate banking and private banks accused of laundering money and smuggling currency over the past months to the judiciary for prosecution.

Said is capable (of the Agency news): that the Iraqi dinar will see a significant improvement its price vs. international currencies, especially after the resort’s central bank to correct mistakes that occurred during the last period, which led to the low exchange rate of the dinar.

Pointed to: that company mediates (banking) and private banks accused of laundering money and smuggling of foreign currency will be brought to justice for the purpose of trial and reduce repeat

These phenomena, being harmful to the economy and the value of the dinar.

said: that the central bank was able to over the last period of the rescue of the Iraqi dinar from degradation and to stabilize its price, stressing that the development of the dinar is much better than before and will see an improvement over the coming period.

http://www.ikhnews.com/index.php?page=article&id=99002

[tlm724] that the Iraqi dinar will see a significant improvement its price vs. international currencies

[Shredd] what peeps sometimes forget is what the dinar rate could already be based on reserves and supply....it's just being falsely held down until.......?

[tlm724] Shredd exactly ! what we see on the CBI site isn't accurate imo

[Shredd] they need to nail down the processes to maintain stability which primarily is affected by outsiders sucking it (the "bleeding" of the dinar) and also corruption and terrorist financing,

[rsp1] Keeping us in the dark...for a reason... hmmmmm

[Shredd] imo, once the CBI has this at acceptable levels of control, they can introduce their new dinar don't wanna pour new wine into old wineskins

[Shredd] agreed timmy

[rsp1] that could be awhile then...since there is so much corruption and money laundering.

[Shredd] rsp I don't think it's a conspiracy but the peeps the CBI wanna keep in the dark are the terrorists

[rsp1] and for good reason...

[Shredd] re: speculating, what is outside of Iraq is out, the CBI is not concerned about us

[rsp1] Nor should they be.

[Shredd] rsp the CBI doesn't need to eliminate all the terrorists, just have controls in place so they cannot economically gain from the exchange, they've busted them already with pallets of dinar so control is what they are after, control in pricing, the bleeding outside of their borders and corruption at all levels

[rsp1] I've noticed a significant increase in arrests lately in the articles.

[therealbubbie] hey for all they know some of the people working at the CBI can be terrorists   

[Shredd] true we've seen arrests for corruption, that is for sure

[Shredd] so, the reserves are there, the new dinar is ready imo, the project to remove the zeros is laid out, VII is done, plug those last few holes via passing laws, implement needed controls and let's see what happens, the sovereign rating is a big one too like I commented on earlier

Raise the level of Iraq's credit rating attracts investments and achieve development. called Economists actors economic government in the country need to speed up resolving the issue credit rating of Iraq because of its great importance in attracting foreign investment and give the perceptions of the economic right to the investing companies as well as being one of the most factors in the banking sector reform. According to the economic expert d.

The appearance of Mohammed Saleh, the classification of Iraq credit now, although he did not specify yet officially, he is at a temperature of B-returned him a good indication of the reason for optimism, noting that it could be rated country credit through bonds sold in global markets because the presence of a credit rating, and that was low , it is better than no rating basically.

http://www.alsabaah.iq/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=53119

[Shredd] We see so many articles talking about the importance of investment in Iraq. First, there is the investment where companies are expanding their business into the region. This type of investment will grow slowly, especially as political and security instability continue to be an obvious issue.

[Shredd] Second, there is the investment where bonds and other security types like derivatives, equities and asset-backed securities are closed and traded in the global financial markets.

[Shredd] This article is talking about this second type that can grow much, much faster. What most people don't understand is this type of very lucrative investment cannot take place with Iraq being at a "NR" rating (not rated).

The reason why is financial products that represent investors, like funds, insurance companies and investment management firms do not have the ability (per their underlying governing documents) and appetite for "NR" securities due to the extreme high risk it brings.

[Shredd] That all said, for Iraq to come out in the "B" rated range will open many doors in the investment into Iraq at the global financial markets level. This greases the wheels of any economy and will introduce Iraq to all of the investment players that will make the fastest, most impactful effect on Iraq.

[Shredd] Sure, we want to continue to see more and more articles about companies coming into Iraq. This is very good for the local economy and brings jobs to the area.

But, Iraq emerging from not being rated to a "B" range rating will open the doors that will have the greatest effect on Iraq taking a seat among global investment and will also bring strength and support to the dinar.

[Shredd] This will also allow all to see what the response and perception of Iraq will be as we will be able to watch what the pricing and trading trends are. If it is positive, which I believe it will be, investors will see the appetite for Iraqi debt in the markets. This will in turn translate to investor demand and that is what we want to see.

[Shredd] This is not the first time we've seen this topic recently, but again, I just wanted to explain how important this is for Iraq realizing substantial investment growth...the kind that puts it on the investment map per se!

[Shredd] ...just another side to this big picture that we may not realize is needed before Iraq joins the wto, they need an acceptable rating

[tlm724] Shredd bubbies found an article last night about WTO, let me show it for those that may not have seen it

[Shredd] so, all forward progress,....very encouraging. yes i read that, that economist is wise!

Baghdad - Mostafa Hashemi said academic economist d. Majid Baidhani that Iraq's accession to the WTO will give the country's economic advantages contribute to increase production and improve the quality and put an end to the entry of goods poor to markets.

said Baidhani told (morning) that liberalization of trade in services and encouraging foreign investment will lead to encourage the movement and flow into the country as reflected in the The reality of the economic activity.

explained that it would put an end to the competition of goods and commodities-backed Iraqi countries produced and sold at less than their prices in their countries.

He pointed out that Iraq had committed to in advance, indirectly, to join the World Trade Organization by signing the document the International Covenant. aims document signed by Iraq prior years to determine the approach the state in the political, economic, social, humanitarian and implementation mechanism.

They also check in with States interested in Iraqi affairs in the era or a partnership, vows to Iraq from his part to abide by the curriculum stated, by contrast, operates a signatory to help cope with these challenges and achieve the stated goals.

pointed Baidhani to that of the most important negative effects on Iraq is not included oil in international trade agreements and on the economic effects of the fact that large oil component of the foundation of the GDP of Iraq, as well as the private sector is still limited activity in the field of industrial and agricultural production.

Indicating the importance of identifying and selecting goods which country when he entered full membership organization. http://www.alsabaah.iq/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=53386

[Shredd] "The reality of the economic activity. explained that it would put an end to the competition of goods and commodities-backed Iraqi countries produced and sold at less than their prices in their countries".  right there...is key. Iraq imports nearly all of what they need so the entry of goods and profitable pricing will be key

[tlm724] Shredd they are also doing the second reading on the product protection today, so we should see that passed shortly . that protects anything made or produced in Iraq from being undersold by imports, keeping the money at home which brings on encouragement to produce locally

[Shredd] yes, another facet that is being improved

[rsp1] They seem to be getting a foothold there too, timmy

[Shredd] and they need to fully implement tariffs which we continue to read in the news

[tlm724] indeed

[Shredd] in my very humble opinion, I feel if the CBI's plan was to slowly manage the rate to a dollar, they'd already be moving that direction but since they are not, a singular move in conjunction with removing the zeros is the most logical approach again, in my opinion 

[tlm724] Shredd yes I agree imo we will see the rate come out of the gate near par to the dollar hence the transition will be smooth and easy

[Shredd] so, to me, the delay that continues month by month after VII especially proves that even more and unless the free floaters think it will take over a year and a half to get to around a buck, their time is quickly running out too, not enough time to raise that quickly and again, NO ONE can assume how the "market" will respond.

everyone assumes the "market" would push the dinar to a buck or more in a matter of months.....really? what proof or historical evidence are they assuming this ?

in fact, with all the political and security instability, the "market" very well may be hesitant to jump on Iraq especially with no rating, very little debt available to invest in by the way

[Shredd] you see, the "market" for Iraq is not strong as far as available issuance's so even though the appetite may be strong for iraqi debt, the supply of it to invest in is extremely low

[tlm724] Shredd Bondlady reminded me that the IQD we currently hold came out Oct  2003 so to me that is an indication that currency reform / change can accure within that time frame, doesn't have to be fiscal year beginning imo

[Shredd] well, that was changing from a currency that was to be destroyed

[Shredd] per shabibi, it cannot move unless on a fiscal year 2003 was a MUST situation.  Iraq couldn't wait till the follwing Jan in 2003

[tlm724] Shredd so is this ! they cannot continue like this they will destroy all the monetary changes they have achieved, this may be a slow go but they have achieved much !

[Shredd] not sure, they are operating with the dollar just fine, just not sure....you have a good point.....I'm just reciting what Shabs said things change though ...ie the governor   

[Shredd] so, outside of the "market" on the finance side you have the street side, consumer side that level of investment is coming but takes time as infrastructure grows and more companies come into iraq, that will continue to grow. ISX is another plus, much growth there!

[tlm724] Shredd lets not forget India   

[Shredd] so the memo of understanding for trading in dinar, in my opinion, was a whole different issue

Adoption of local currencies in the Indian Iraqi dealings. BAGHDAD - morning praised a member of the Finance Committee MP Dler capable, Bembagesat both Iraq and India to agree to be economic transactions and trade of the two countries in local currencies, stressing that it will support the value of the dinar and make it desirable internationally.

said capable in a press statement that talks of the Iraqi delegation headed by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and a ministers and economists, with the Indian side about the accreditation in business dealings between the two countries on local currencies and not the dollar and this measure will support the value of the dinar and improves positioned internationally.

said: that the Iraqi dinar is strong and covered with reserves much of hard currency and gold, especially during the recent period improved exchange rate dinar and significantly against the dollar, making the nations economic as large as India maintains the Iraqi dinar and deal him, this is an indicator of economic well for the Iraqi dinar.

 This was confirmed Minister of Indian that both Iraq and the Indian Tbagesoa on strengthening bilateral economic relations, and the possibility of adopting local currencies Iraqi and Indian in the business dealings of the two countries instead of the U.S. dollar.

http://www.alsabaah.iq/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=52851

[Shredd] Strengthening bilateral relations via trade is all about electronic transactions.This is a good thing like timmy pointed out because India is choosing to denominate their trade in dinar will strengthen the confidence and value of it. This is not about paper folks...it's all good!

[Shredd] rsp1 long answer to your question, but there you go 

[rsp1] I knew you had something good to say. Thank you for your take on this whole investment.

[Shredd] yqw and now, I give to you lighters, today's show is brought to you by Hopium, smoke it while you got it. Shredd -out

DINARMAVEN POST, 3 SEPTEMBER

[dinarmaven] You know how tired we all are of hearing that we're done... Until I started talking to contacts I never understood the craziness associated with this process. 

I've been in a technical career for over 35 years... banking, CTO, CEO, finance... I have never seen anything like this!  The technical issues aside, we have seen this be a political football for months and a disappointment to the whole world. 

The US spent precious lives and capital in this process, and we are just along for the ride. I know frustrations abound. Impatience reigns. Anger is somewhat below the surface for the people still waiting, INCLUDING IRAQ. 

When I started posting, it was on the precipice (this was only two weeks ago.) and from what I hear tonight, we are BACK. Nothing has changed since last night. I expect big things to happen. 

My contacts are ready and have been told to be on alert- HIGH ALERT - for the next 24 hours. 

I hope and pray. Period. Until next time - DINARMAVEN

EXOGEN UPDATE, 3 SEPTEMBER

Stage2Omega:

DIRECT INTEL 10:02 PM EST (3 SOURCES)

Posted by EXOGEN on September 3, 2013 at 10:09pm

PER CONVERSATION WITH CME CONTACT ALL CURRENCIES ARE SHOWING LIVE IN THE SYSTEM AS OF RIGHT NOW AND TRADERS ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO TAKE PLACE WITHIN NEXT 48 TO 72 HOURS. -------------------------------------------------------------- 

PER CONVERSATION WITH AGENCY CONTACT THE GCR SHOULD BE RELEASED BEFORE FRIDAY IF ALL GOES AS PLANNED --------------------------------------
 NOTE: WE HAVE ALSO JUST CONFIRMED THE FRANK26 & EAGLE 1 INTEL IN REFERENCE TO MORE INTRA OFFICE BANK MEMOS HAVE BEEN GOING OUT NATIONWIDE & ADDITIONAL DEL A RUE MACHINES ARE BEING SHIPPED NATIONWIDE AS OF RIGHT NOW. -----------------------------------------------------
 WE WILL VERIFY THE WELLS FARGO LOCATIONS IN RALEIGH IN THE AM, WITH OUR BANKING CONTACTS. COME RV!!! EXO

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 3 SEPTEMBER

TNT:
[mort] be happy...happy...happy...from the calls i got today this will be our week so just hang in there and be happy & let it happen...like i have said many times- "gods timing is always perfect"!!

[yodadog] just imho, I think Tony's update was that both sides have reached a truce, and the trouble in Iraq over the weekend, has again sparked an urgency to move forward with the RV.

okrocks] The news IS... Right now there is a truce between the egos! A definite "lets get this part done now", because there are too many other things going on in the WORLD....

[TRISHA] I was pretty bummed out after Tonys call but I have taken some time to put the pieces together. Here's what I got: The egomaniacs have come to an agreement(huge), there are people in the call centers as of 7 am (also huge) Tony had stuff he wanted to say but couldn't unless we asked him and his dang line didn't work so sure, he was frustrated. He also said that a call tomorrow may not be necessary (really huge), I think he was trying in everyway possible to give us the big hint that this is going down in the next 24 hours. That combined with Mtn Goat saying this week, which to my recollection she has never said and all of the other signs, I have come to the conclusion that we are in a very good place
[gmancometh] Summary of key points from TNT call. TONY: “on Iraq TV there were saying the IQD would revalue against the USD in the coming days (TV scroller). That was a good thing. I like what Mtn Goat said this morning, i.e., the explanation about the different rates on the Qi-Cards. I clearly explained that several weeks ago………..as of this morning, the UST is "go" from the people I talk to. From the IMF, it's "go". We've been hearing that all obstacles have been removed. But while you were on the boards freaking out on Mtn Goat, Okie, etc., I'm all over the world getting info that it's happening now. I'm getting that the bank people went in at 7AM this morning, as told them last night to expect a busy day today. Everybody is saying "go" and it will be sooner rather than later………everybody is on high alert. It could happen at any point. If something else happens I will send out a blast.”

 [wantingfreedom] We are so very blessed to be on this journey . . grateful for the opportunity to be part of history . . we are chosen to not only upgrade our lives, but bless others, help change our community, and our world!! This RV WILL happen . . we must be patient and just know it's coming! (money) (money) (money) (hotdog)

[wantingfreedom] *¨`*• ♥ •*¨`*• ♫♪♫♪ singing ... ♫♪♫♪•*¨`*•♥ •*¨`*• Does Anyone really know what time it is ??? I DO!! It's RV TIME!!!! ♫♪♫♪•*¨`*•♥ •*¨`*•

 [..buddydog] 10:42 PM lxxxxxx: Hello Guys Thanks for your prayers and all the calls and text. I have not talked to most of the people I talk unto until this evening. I can tell you this thing was supposed to go several times in the last two weeks. Well guess what we are still here waiting, however there are things (and please don't ask) going on behind what you can see. I can and will tell you we are Back on trac and the next few days may just bring us what we all are looking for. Remember changes are or in our case were made at the last minute to enable some of the First and Business class folks to revisit the Depot and make a second order. God Bless and see you at the Bank

TK CHAT, 3 SEPTEMBER

[TERRYK] HELLO HELLO HELLO
[TERRYK] WHAT'S GOING ON MY FRIENDS
[TERRYK] WHOO HOO
[TERRYK] HOPING TODAY BRINGS US MUCH $$$$
[TERRYK] TINA CAN U POST CALL IN INFO FOR TOMORROW
[TERRYK] THANKS
[TERRYK] HEY AL WHAT U DOING BRO
[TERRYK] KKT
[TERRYK] STUD
[TERRYK] GARY
[garyfla99] gm tk how r you feeling
[garyfla99] how's the pool coming
[TERRYK] THEY ARE NOT HERE 
[TERRYK] WONDERFUL DAY TOO 
[TERRYK] 76
[TERRYK] HIGH OF 85 TODAY
[TERRYK] AND NO SHOW POOL GUYS
[TERRYK] THEY HAVE 28 DAYS TO FINISH
[TERRYK] GRRRRRRR
[TERRYK] ALL THE INDICATORS POINT TO TODAY
[TERRYK] ALL SOURCES THAT I HAVE TALKED TO TELL ME TONIGHT
[TERRYK] NO LATER THAN THUR
[TERRYK] HEARING DOUBLE DIGITS FOR DINAR
[TERRYK] AND LIKE 4 BUCKS ON DONG
[TERRYK] WE ARE GOING TO BE IN THE MONEY
[NavyVet] I'm hearing a lot of concern coming out of Bagdad........
[TERRYK] YEA I BET THEY ARE ABOUT TO HAVE A FIT
[TERRYK] HEY NAVYVET
[TERRYK] WHAT ARE YOU DOING THIS AM
[NavyVet] sup TK?
[TERRYK] MY GUY OVER THERE IS TELLING ME THAT THE SHOPS ARE LIKE WHERE ARE WE GOING TO GET OUR STORE GOOD FROM
[NavyVet] waiting to do Gods work, my friend....
[TERRYK] THEY ARE AFRAID THAT THIS SYRIA STUFF WILL IMPACT THEM
[NavyVet] hearing the same....
[NavyVet] over 6100 killed in Iraq so far this year..... doesn't sound over to me........
[TERRYK] NAVEYVET
[TERRYK] LOOK AT IT THIS WAY
[TERRYK] HOW MANY KILLED IN THE USA THIS YEAR
[TERRYK] THERE IS ALWAYS KILLINGS 
[TERRYK] NO MATTER WHERE 
[NavyVet] point......
[TERRYK] WHAT WAS THE TYPICAL
[TERRYK] IN THAT COUNTRY PRIOR TO THE WAR
[MikeH]    beach and i signed up for the TCB card last night
[TERRYK] THE NORM
[TERRYK] WOW BEACH YOU WILL LIKE IT
[TERRYK] ITS KILLER
[obxlady1]    yea but...the USA isn't trying to enter the international market!
[Finnigan]    ,They have been fighting for a thousand years and will fight for another thousand years!
[TERRYK] BUT OBXLADY WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ENTERING ANYTHING 
[TERRYK] WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW MANY PEEPS WERE KILLED
[TERRYK] RIGHT
[TERRYK] BIG DIFFERENCE
[TERRYK] BE RIGHT BACK POOL GUYS ARE HERE

STRYKER POST, 3 SEPTEMBER

Stryker - I am being told by some real reliable sources that the 2014 Budget holds the key to currency reform and why there is an historic move of urgency to get it passed. With the National & Kurdistan Alliances in full agreement of the implementation of all 7 points that were agreed to in April the next progression is to pass the 2014 Budget.  We are right on the edge of Currency Reform my friends, IMO.

TONY'S CC NOTES, 3 SEPTEMBER

(Note: There were quite a few Technical Difficulties during call..Unknown if all of call was recorded)

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Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U:

TONY - Good morning, TNT! Let's get this show on the road!

T = TONY | C = CALLER

T - Good morning! I know you had a lot of questions from the weekend. I have a bit of info to share right now.

T - everything is good. IT was an exhausting weekend for a lot of people. I did get calls which is why I put out a blast. There was a lot of info over the weekend. We have a lot of new people on the boards, so maybe they're not used to way we do things here at TNT.

T - I'm going to give you the info first so if you need to leave you can.
PLEASE STAND BY.....PROBLEMS WITH THE BROADCAST BOARD.

T - I got some calls over the weekend that let me know we're right on track. I got calls from people who belong to 2 different gov't agencies and it was explained to me again that a lot of sites are being watched and analyzed & recorded. We need to be a little more careful about how and what things are said.

T - this site was the topic of discussion at several different locations. I've been told we need to be careful for giving too much info. I got complaints I was giving out too much info. People that got mad are the ones who don't like you knowing the truth.

T - if it goes too far, they will give me a head's up if I'm saying too much. I'm trying to give you the correct info about the process that's going on.

T - There is a lot of misinformation being put out. I'm seeing it from other places. I want everybody to know that we don't rely strictly on the agencies we have contact with here and in Iraq. We also have boots on the ground in other locations (Iraq and here). That's why we can bring it to you within 10 minutes of it happening.

T - there is a lot of politics involved, in particular in the past week or 2. Lots of egos involved as well. Right now, supposedly there is a truce between the egos, a definite "let's work together and get this done" because there's more going on in the world.

T - As you know we came over from PTR, the before that People's Dinar, then before that Dinar Vets. Each time we left it was because of changes in the boards. We are here today because this was the adult board - where we can bring info and discuss it like adults. Everybody doesn't have to agree with me. But we have to be able to discuss it in an adult way. It's about helping each person here discuss, debate and educate.

T - We give out info all the time. We always get "no that's not happening" then later it comes out that it's true. They see the whole picture. There's always a little truth to every story - it's part of the process and who we're getting the info from. Then it's out job to take all that info, put it together, and find out where we are TODAY about the RV.

T - It's taken me years to put the pieces together. It would have made sense to me if I knew the rest of the story. I don't care if people want to disagree respectfully. Let's not let our board deteriorate into what the last board was like.

T - you can't think that I'm going to let anyone be prejudiced against anyone else. I don't want that to continue, i.e., slurs, negatives, etc. Anything that is derogatory or hurts anybody - no one needs to say it

T - We are about the dinar. Are there conspiracy theories about the Republic, Treasury notes, etc.? I don't see us waking up one morning and it changed over night. A little info is a dangerous thing. Some people are confusing others about the UST notes, TRN notes, etc. I've told you there are different levels within our gov't, the Bilderburg Group, Carlisle Group, etc. You can look these up yourself. But right now we don't care about those things. I'll leave that right there for now.

T - That info I just put out is in response to info that Okie and Mtn Goat put out. It stressed a lot of people out. Nobody is an expert at this. People were asking "what is Tony going to say?.

T - I'd be completely wrong if I said it's not political. Every banking system, gov't agency, etc. has said it's done. The system is ready. There just needs to be an authorization. We went from problems in Iraq, to B3 problems, to tech problems, to where we are today.

T - we haven't seen anything from Iraq about HCL, agreements, etc. because those have been completed. They are not having the RV because it's not up to them. Over the weekend there were some definite issues in Iraq, but it didn't have anything to do with Maliki. It lets us know there is a powder keg that is building.

T - that powder keg was reignited this past weekend because it helps spur things along. Also, on Iraq TV there were saying the IQD would revalue against the USD in the coming days (TV scroller). That was a good thing. I like what Mtn Goat said this morning, i.e., the explanation about the different rates on the Qi-Cards. I clearly explained that several weeks ago.

T - that powder ket was reignited this past weekend AND IT HELPS..

T - you have to realize that we are in the process, not just hearing about it, but we are in it as it happens, when other places just hasn't gotten it,

The upgraded lines hold 5,000 callers and they have exceeded that amount. As a result their board is locked up.

T - we came over here and only expected 200 peeps, but in a little over 2 months we have over 12,000 people and climbing.

Q - if the RV rate is factored into the $600T bonds sent out to the countries, what is the rate that was used? A - somebody figured it out that it came to the base rate of 3.44

Q - If world can agree on bond rate why not RV rate? A - the whole rate thing is the higher the rate better it is for us, more dollars for when dollar went down. benefit for US. other countries rates driven up too.

Q - I am hearing today that the rate keeps rising, but with more pressing issues the pressure is on.

T - as of this morning, the UST is "go" from the people I talk to. From the IMF, it's "go". We've been hearing that all obstacles have been removed. But while you were on the boards freaking out on Mtn Goat, Okie, etc., I'm all over the world getting info that it's happening now. I'm getting that the bank people went in at 7AM this morning, as told them last night to expect a busy day today. Everybody is saying "go" and it will be sooner rather than later.

T - that's why it's a good thing that Iraq put it back on their TV. We needed them to bring it back before their people. They are once again asking "where is our place in the world?" We needed that powder keg reignited to get this thing rolling along.

T - currency exchanges are UST. Anything put into a FCA is foreign currency and backed by UST when transferred back to USD.

T - we try to take conspiracy stuff off the board before it gets too far out there. try not to be political. over the w/e whole RV was political situation. saying this morning they've removed that componite and going to go on. I'm not trying to censor anyone. just 2 far left or right it starts arguments.

Q - Talk about the plans A & B. Anyone cashed out SKRs? A - the world plan was 3.44, there was a $14 plan and a $20 plan. Supposedly there were agreements that, depending on which day this happens or how far out it goes, will determine which plan. I don't personally know anyone who has cashed out SKRs. I heard that some priviledged people (person who know a banker at a high level), did CE. What can we do about it? Nothing. People of priviledge are going to get things we can't get. Once the RV happens we will be in that group.

Q - Another group is attempting to put together a group to get SKR status for early CE. A - let me answer that by saying that last week people were picked up/arrested and questioned in Reno and they can't explain where their dinars are that are missing. Why would you even get involved in something like that? Would I do it? No.

Q - Do you think the banks will give the same rate on reserves? A - yes, you're supposed to include those reserves in the amount they ask you about so they can decide where to send you for CE.

T - everything I'm getting is saying we're back on track; obstacles have been removed; 3 different agencies are in agreement and waiting on a time. Call-in centers are manned. Everybody is on high alert. It could happen at any point. If something else happens I will send out a blast. If not, we'll do our regular call tomorrow. END OF CALL.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 3 SEPTEMBER

9-3-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony    All is done in Iraq, doesn't take a rocket scientist to see they are done and ready but they cannot announce it because it's not up to them. Period.  [Are there still plans A & B?]  There were several plans,  there was a $14 plan, a $ 20 plan and $3.44 plan, depending on how long it gets drug out.  I'm hearing  we are back on track.  Three different agencies are in agreement once again.  Bank people were called in at 7:00 a.m. and told to expect a busy day.  The call in centers and the cash out centers are manned and security is still there and everyone is on high alert.  [post 2 of 2]

9-3-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony   There is a lot of politics involved, egos involved, over the last week or two.   Right now there is supposedly a truce between the egos.   A definite lets work together to get it done because of all that is going on in the world today. Every banking system,  all government agencies say it's done, no computer problems, the system is ready, they just need authorization.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

9-3-2013  Intel Guru Mnt Goat   First let me say there was an outside window of Sept 1st  planned for this RV to be activated. This date is now passed and still no RV. The decision not to bomb Syria is a break from the storm, a temporary clearing in the skies, the sun may even poke through and give us some warmth.  I am hearing nothing but really good prospects that this is the week and I also heard that there are many reasons for wanting this to go international not just for us but for issues, events and pressure once again building in Iraq. They need this RV desperately.

9-3-2013  Intel Guru EXOGEN   CONTACT WORKING IN KUWAIT JUST GOT TO THE STATES AND HE COULD NOT BRING IQD BACK TO THE STATES.  WAS FORCED TO PLACE IN ACCOUNT IN IRAQ...BEFORE HE LEFT WAS TOLD WOULD NOT BE TOO LONG.  CONTACT ALSO SAW ON CNBC TODAY: WORLD WIDE EXCHANGE!!!  WAS ON THERE FOR 1 MINUTE TODAY.

9-3-3013  Intel Guru Jester   WE ARE AWARE THAT OTHER ISSUES EXIST...POLITICAL ISSUES THAT MUST BE RESOLVED...SO UNTIL THAT HAPPENS ALL THE THIS THAT OR THE OTHER THINGS SIMPLY DOES NOT MATTER...I DO NOT SEE 2014...BUT I DO BELIEVE IT IS STILL GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME.   

9-3-3013  Intel Guru Jester    THE MORE DEEPER I GET THE MORE I UNDERSTAND WE DID NOT REALLY KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON...THE PROCESS IS THE PROCESS...MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAT WE EVER HAD ANY IDEA IT WAS...WHAT I CAN TELL YOU NOW IT THERE IS NO BACK DOOR...MOST OF WHAT EVERYONE IS PUTTING OUT THERE IS ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON THEIR HOPES OF WHAT THEY THINK MAY HAPPEN...BUT IT DOESN'T...IT NEVER PANS OUT...  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

9-3-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    [If civil war does break out will it close our window I THINK THEY WILL DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE INCLUDING THE RV TO HELP PREVENT CIVIL WAR FROM HAPPENING...  IF IT DOES GET TO THAT LEVEL WITHOUT THE RV YES IT WOULD BE A HUGE SETBACK FOR US...I DON'T SEE THE IMF, WORLD BANK, UNSC ALLOWING THINGS TO GET TO THAT LEVEL...

9-3-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   HEARD RUMOR OF MASS KILLINGS IN IRAQ TODAY.  I PRAY THEY CAN HOLD THINGS TOGETHER LONG ENOUGH...TO GET THE RV DONE BEFORE THE COUNTRY FALLS BACK INTO CIVIL WAR. REPORT CAME FROM BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND ONE SOURCE FLEW HIS FAMILY OUT TODAY AND SAYS HE WILL NOT RETURN TILL THE RV HAS HAPPENED AND CALMED THINGS DOWN...THINGS ARE NOT AS SAFE TODAY THERE AS THEY WHERE THREE MONTHS AGO. 

9-3-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   [You stated that you were not discouraged about this week possibly being the period of their currency reform. Do you believe the pressure from parliament and international community on Maliki and the CBI your reasoning? I think Maliki does what he does to his utmost advantage.  Should this happen this week it will be due to some inherent political need he has.

MNT GOAT POST, 3 SEPTEMBER

Hi Everyone,

Today there is a break from the storm as there is some clearing in the skies and this will give us some hope that all may be well, at least for now. There are however many new storms brewing in the horizon and if you pay attention you too can hear the rumbling of the thunder and see the distant flashes of the lightening.

A bit of house cleaning

In many of my posts I use the term “they” to describe some entity that is holding back the revaluation of the Iraq dinar.  I have had many requests during and after my last three posts to explain  the “they”. 

So at requests of the members I wrote  UU5422 in part to clarify this term. So I hope everyone now has a clear understanding of who is holding up the RV and their disposition? 

It is a group of political leaders of the USA (the bad guys)  the second layer of government (the bad guys) using the RV as leverage to negotiate with groups (the good guys) who have exposed their plans for world dominance and the means to which they propose to do it.
From the hundreds of replies I received from the UU5422 post I can see that about 95% of the members understand what was told them. That leaves about 5% who do not. Not a bad percentage and I will leave the 5% in their own Disney fantasy.

Since TNTDINAR is not a conspiracy site but rather a site dedicated to the revaluation of the IQD I will not attempt to go any further on this topic or elaborate on anything else I said in this post.

Go back and re-read it. I believe my point has been made. I can back up everything I say on my posts. I leave everyone with the seeds of truth. It is now up to you to plant them and make they grow. In other words get off you ____ and do your own research. I am not going to spoon feed you! We are all adults. This applies mostly to the 5%.

I have spent years and years of  investigating these facts so you too can see clearly now if you chose to. You can believe what I say or you can spend years of digging and researching as I have. I do not owe anyone anything. You do not pay me for my time spent, my telephone calls or time away from my family. I am blessed to have this 95 % of you members who do understand and I will always try to assist where I can to bring you news of this RV, if I am allowed to.

But remember one thing – if you ask for the truth be careful…..you just may get it and it may shock you. Be prepared of it. I will always to try to answer all constructive questions when I can through the TNT mailbox.

Please stop sending me your personal emails and/or telephone numbers. This is not smart no matter how much you trust me. You are all about to be millionaires. Someone can put together a nice mass marketing scheme and use your personal information.

So what it the news today

There are still many articles coming out of Iraq on the conversations between the CBI, the GOI and Parliament. These articles are interesting since they tell us they do need the remove the zeros and delete the zeros projects completed and they need them done now.

I do want you to step back and remember these statements have been ongoing since before April of this year. That is already 5 months.

So where is the RV? 

Why have then not completed these projects already? We know for a fact the CBI planned to RV last July 2012 over a year ago.

I know for a fact there were plans to RV again in April 2013 but the CBI was told to hold off again until further notice.

These projects are not completed because they await the international rollout announcement. This can not be done until the UST gives the final go ahead. This will not happen until some higher political figures authorize it.

Iraq can not do anything until they are given the green light from sources that are telling them to stall. They are stalling by telling the people what they must to satisfy them and let them know its coming and they are still in control of it.

But we all know who “they” are who are really in control of it. In July we saw that out of desperation they began to pay various rates on the Qi Cards depending on the program you could receive differing sums of money.

Mores Notes about the Qi Cards

Just want to interject a bit in my thoughts today and tell you a little more about these cards. I had a long conversation with my contact in Iraq yesterday on this topic and I wanted to pass it along to you.

The citizen does not automatically get the card. They must apply for the card, go through the identity process and they return to the office to pick them up. Then depending on their program, funding can or can not be allocated on the cards.

The rates vary since the laws dictate which programs are paying out what rates.

So why do we hear some have no cards? Cause they never applied for them. Why do we hear some are getting paid  98 cents (ration fund), while others are getting $1.17 (pension fund) and others are getting $3.44 (money owed to contractors) and others are getting nothing $0.00. It depends on the program. You see now?

So to make a long story short if you were to ask one person in a providence if they have money on their card you can see how the answers could be no. While in the same providence or another providence you could ask the same question and get an entirely different answer. 

This does not mean the cards are not loaded for some and they are paying out at RV rates. The maximum rate on the cards I am told in $3.44 and this makes perfect sense to me.

I can remember in mid 2012 I was told that the rate would come out at $3.44. This is showing exactly what I was told over a year ago. I did not believe it then since I admit I was stuck in a process that it had to come out lower, and then have the final RV later to bring it up to the $3.44. I was wrong. But this is a dynamic situation over in Iraq and the process has now varied.   

Is the USA going to attack Syria

On Sunday I have heard that your president Obama made an executive decision not to bomb Syria for now. Behind closed doors it was said there are other ways of dealing with the crisis. This decision was made due to lack of  being able to put together a coalition and receiving the approval needed from the UN Security Council.

There is also talk of not wanting to take a gamble that Iran would blockage the Straight of Hormuz in the Pursian Gulf / Gulf of Oman. Personally I believe it was a guaranteed move since Iran already came out with a warning to the USA that this would happen. The US Navy could take care of any blockage but at what cost?

If this did happen it would severely impede the oil exports to the USA, China and Europe causing gas rationing and much higher cost in USA. Not a politically smart thing to do.

However most importantly  this could also cause an escalation of a new war in the Middle East some say WW3. So I hope you can learn from this episode why it is important that the long term strategy of the USA is to gain complete control of all the Middle East. That is their long term plan.

My gut feeling has always been that this RV would have to happen prior to any bombings or invasions of Syria. That is only my personal opinion however and I have no evidence to back this up. This may in fact be also one of the reasons why Obama made his decision.
 
How does this effect the RV rates?


First let me say there was an outside window of Sept 1st  planned for this RV to be activated.

This date is now passed and still no RV. 

As I mentioned in my last post UU5422 about the impeding storm but that now it is underway. The decision not to bomb Syria is a break from the storm, a temporary clearing in the skies, the sun may even poke through and give us some warmth. 

So who won this battle?

I believe the good guys won and we will see the lower of the rates be activated in the banks very shortly.

I am hearing nothing but really good prospects that this is the week and I also heard that there are many reasons for wanting this to go international not just for us but for issues, events and pressure once again building in Iraq. They need this RV desperately.

Hope this helps.

Ps- this is the real goat no one has hacked into TNTDINAR….lol…

Peace and Luv to ya all,
mnt goat   
  

TNT CHAT, 3 SEPTEMBER

TNT:

 [hannys] so, not trying to get anyone rauled up or anything but do we all really think some people are already cashing out?

[CAJUNGIRL] hannys yes

[august] hannys, I KNOW for a FACT they are!

[funkitty] hannys sure skr is definitely possible 

[donhutto] They get theirs..we get ours

[hannys] august oh really?

[august] hannys, yes High officials.

[august] hannys, I have a friend that is in Washington, DC High Official. I was invited, but declined because of the particulars.

[suny] August u were invited to washing DC to cash in?

[august] hannys, I know we are misfed info, but I have no reason to lie to you. I opted to wait along with my group. 

 [august] suny, no not in DC

[kegler] august Any idea when us common folks get to go the bank?

[john316] hannys remember the train ride we were on with loechin? well the first class and business class got their SKR and my understanding is they can borrow against them..... So cashing out as opposed to SKR ? possible. 

[hannys] john316 nice

[august] john316, some of them did a monetary exchange.

[suny] thats good news august can u tell us what state?

[august] suny, RENO

[funkitty] august wow, that's nice to know. I am curious what particular stopped u from participating 

[august] funkitty, my gut.

[diamondd] all the indicators point to today all sources that i have talked to tell me tonight no later than thur …. hearing double digits for dinar and like 4 bucks on dong we are going to be in the money 

[kwb] My source says this won't go past the 8th of this month

[prosperous1] August I feel good about today - thanks for keeping us on focus

 [august] prosperous1, I feel super duper good about tonight!

[hoosierbigbucks] We have all heard the saying "going to the bank", but being a private banker, do you really know what to say and how to say it. This is a very important part of the process. you must have a confidence and a professional demeanor about you, a maybe a bit of calm arrogance. Folks remember, we have the upper hand here, there are numerous banks that will take our money becasue they ALL want it. However there is less than 1/2 of 1% of their customer base that are true multi millionaires....this is where all of us Dinarians will have the leverage....trust me, it is really a Barter type of exchange.

 [august] hoosierbigbucks, you are so right! Confidence, don't be overanxious to sign anything, ask questions with poise and confidence. Articulate your thoughts. Have your questions written, and just remember they WANT and NEED your Dinars. You have the upper hand. Act accordingly...

GENERALS64 CHAT FROM MIG FORUM, 3 SEPTEMBER

[generals64] Sparkles :...Good Morning and NO..............this entire process is done by and through checks and balances....Why would any bank or government facility tell you or I what they were doing?....

[generals64] the system has to go through their timing not anyone elses....

[generals64] Imagine the time you found a mistake (from the bank) while balancing your check book....Then multiply that times millions...bingo...lets start over...

[Sparkles] Correct

[generals64] This has to be done right and not exactly right now.

[generals64] I too am frustrated.....I had a Passing out spell yesterday and my wife blamed it on the Dinar....the doctor blamed it on to much sun and heat.....Who is right?.....Who is qualified?

[Sparkles] I understand the frustration and it was probably both

[.BJ] Sparkles yes both

[generals64] None of these people (nor myself) is in the KNOW....I too know bankers within all of the big 4 banks...they know nothing....Some of them are Branch managers....some of them are the Custodians....Who knows....and, why would we be privy to "Insider Trading" information...think about that....

[generals64] For what its worth:.

[generals64] #1. We have a team of negotiators working on this daily..

[generals64] #2. We know what direction it is going in

[generals64] #3. We have dealt with the banks directly and not through a wanna be

[generals64] #4. I know who is really going to send out the email

[generals64] #5. I know the email system was the way the bank wanted it done.

[generals64] #6. I know you won't be notified by the bank if you are not on the list

[generals64] #7. I know I want this over with as soon as possible.

[generals64] #8. I know that we are progressing forward and nothing is holding it back except for the checks and balances within the world Global System

[generals64] I also know....No One...Not me, Okie,tony,mtn.goat?, no one is going to have a huge advanced notification when it does happen.