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Wednesday, August 21, 2013

JESTER CHAT, 22 AUGUST

[Jester] HI EVERYONE.. NICE TO SEE YOU ALL...

[GodsGurl] JESTER GRUNT0311 did a great job of holding down the Court while you were out

[Jester] GodsGurl HE IS GOOD THAT WAY.... HE IS A PRETTY SMART FELLOW... AND A GOOD FRIEND TO HAVE...

[RV4life] Jester did you hear about Jack Lew in Reno and getting settlements done in HK?

[Jester] RV4life THAT IS A LITTLE BACKWARDS BUT CLOSE ENOUGH... WAS OVER THERE TO SIGN OFF ON THE GOLD BACKED CURRENCY LAST NIGHT... BACK TO RENO TODAY... HEARD HE IS BACK TO WASHINGTON TONIGHT... AND HE IS SCHEDULED TO TOUR SOME INDUSTRIAL SOMETHING OR OTHER IN SF TOMORROW.... THE GUY MUST LIVE ON THAT PLANE...

[TechDude] Jester can you please just break out with some great news early? This staying up with your board until midnite on worknights is taking a TOLL! Lol
[Jester] TechDude YOU OUGHT TO HAVE MY LIFE... I WILL BE UP UNTIL THE WEST COAST CLOSES AND BACK UP WHEN THE EAST COAST OPENS...

[jackinback] Jester .....So if CL starts this at 3.44 will we add oil credits on that or let it float first?

 [Jester] jackinback THEY WILL ALL COME OUT AT THERE ASSESSED ASSET VALUE... WHATEVER THAT IS WILL NOT FLOAT THAT MUCH... REMEMBER ASSET BACKED DOES NOT GIVE MUCH ROOM FOR CHANGE UNLESS SOMETHING BIG CHANGES IN THAT COUNTRY...

[bigbear] Jester Are there any schuled announcements that you are aware of

[Jester] patsiayn bigbear IF I KNEW THE SCHEDULE FOR THAT I WOULD BE TELLING YOU... WE KEEP HEARING IT AND ALL WE CAN DO IS WAIT ALONG WITH YOU....

[paradisegirl] Jester Does the annual Fed meeting in Jackson Hole have any relevance to this event??

[Jester] paradisegirl SINCE IT DOES NOT SEEM SOME OF THE RELEVANT PLAYERS ARE THERE I AM NOT EXPECTING MUCH THERE...

[fhdinar] Jester any news on number tres?

[Dinangme] Jester You expecting another call tonight regarding 3rd man flying?

[Jester] fhdinar Dinangme ALREADY KNOW... HE IS STILL WAITING...

Shivohm] Jester But what if the "Market" disagrees with the Asset valuations of IMF?

[Jester] Shivohm HOW CAN THE MARKET OVERCOME THE ACTUAL VALUE? THAT IS THE WHOLE IDEA... TO LEVEL THINGS OUT...

[Jester] FAIR IS FAIR... A BRICK OF GOLD IS A BRICK OF GOLD... A SACK OF DIAMONDS IS A SACK OF DIAMONDS... UNLESS THOSE COMMODITIES CHANGE A BUNCH THE CURRENCIES REMAIN THE VBALUE OF THE ASSETS...

[Blessed94] Jester where should we look out for this announcement?

[Jester] Blessed94 JUST KEEP YOUR EYES PEELED... AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE HEAR...

[VenusVisitor] Jester how are you feeling with today's intel, are we in the window still

[Jester] VenusVisitor WELL SOME THINGS GOT DONE TODAY... THERE WERE SOME ORDERS DONE THAT NEEDED TO BE COMPLETED RELATIVE TO OUR INVESTMENT... LEW WAS THERE... I HEARD ALL THAT WAS FINISHED AND NOW THINGS ARE ABOUT READY TO GO....

[justified] Jester question...you always say no timeline, no date or rate, no backdoor or can you track progress but yet you tell us the RV is close. Yet there is nothing to say that this will not take months or even years.The GOI still debates removing zeros and why would any contractor tolerate frozen funds they could not pay payroll, vendors, etc so that report is doubtful. Why would not this all be misinformation? ...I worked for CDI btw.

[Jester] justified WELL THEN YOU TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT IS WORTH... WHICH IS WHAT YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT... IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE WAY I AM DOING IT THEN I GUESS YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM TO GO FIGURE OUT SOME OTHER WAY TO GET IT DONE...

[bigbear] Jester Eagle1 is saying that that the old T.A.G account is going to be offered at W.F. any truth. That would secure our deposit

[Jester] bigbear I SAW THAT... SO I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON IT... HOLD ON AND I WILL FETCH WHAT I READ REAL QUICK....

[Jester] The Transaction Account Guarantee (TAG) program was created in response to the financial crisis to help settle the nerves of depositors with large bank accounts. It allows participating banks and financial institutions that have non-interest bearing accounts, like some checking accounts, to offer unlimited FDIC coverage, instead of the regular $250,000 coverage per depositor. The additional TAG insurance doesn’t apply to interest-bearing checking accounts, savings accounts, money markets, or CDs.

[Jester] The TAG program has been extended through the end of 2010, but participating institutions had a one-time opportunity to opt out of it by April 30, 2010 and let their coverage expire on July 1, 2010. Over 1,000 institutions decided to get out and save money on the rising expense of the program. If your bank discontinued TAG insurance and you have an account that doesn’t earn interest, then your coverage has simply been reversed back to the FDIC’s general deposit insurance rules. For most people, that isn’t a big deal, because if they had over $250,000 in cash it probably wouldn’t be sitting idle in a non-interest bearing account!

[Jester] NOW THE WAY I READ THAT IT ALREADY ENDED... AND SINCE THE DODD FRANK PART THAT SUPPORTED THAT ALSO ENDED... I AM GUESSING IT IS A MOOT POINT...

[Catwoman] Jester I believe what was said was an account "Equivalent to the TAG account" was going to be made available by WF.

[bigrichflorida] Jester TAG acct ended 12/31/2012

[Jester] bigrichflorida JUST TOOK IT OFF THE NET... FROM INVESTING WEBSITE TODAY... IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT NOW IS THE TIME...CHECKED SEVERAL PLACES AND THEY ALL HAD PRETTY MUCH THE SAME INFO...

surfnomad] Jester CDARS is also an option

[Jester] surfnomad I LIKE CDARS BUT THERE IS A PRACTICAL LIMIT THERE TOO... SO GET SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE COVERED OR LLYODS OF LONDON... HAHAHAHA..

[Jester] LOOK... TAG ACCOUNT SHMAG ACCOUNT... WHATEVER... YOU GUYS NEED PROFESSIONAL ADVICE ON THIS SORT OF THING... NOT ADVICE FROM A DANG CHAT ROOM OR GURU BOARD... LOL.

 [bigbear] Jester Is there any problems running the Ghost program with forex----This is what others are using as a excuse

[Jester] bigbear WE GET A REPORT EVERY DAY ON THAT... NO PROBLEMS ARE WHAT WE ARE TOLD... DID HEAR THAT THERE WAS SOME SORT OF SNAFU IN THE CIX LAST NIGHT BUT THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY...

[Jester] WE DID TRACE THAT TO SOME SORT OF PAPERWORK ISSUE... I KNOW THAT SOUNDS CRAZY... BUT A PAPERWORK ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE RATES WITH THE COUNTRIES THAT NEEDED TO BE INPUT TO THE CIX... SO MAYBE SOME ASSUMED IT WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE PROGRAM WHEN IT WAS REALLY SOMETHING ELSE...

[Grunt0311] Jester SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE SOMEONE DIDN'T DO THEIR JOB QUITE RIGHT... LIKE VERIFYING THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PASSED BETWEEN DEPARTMENTS... DANG I LIKE MY ANALOGY.

[Jester] Grunt0311 WELL THAT IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT SOUNDED LIKE TO ME WHEN I HEARD IT... IT SEEMED SILLY AT THE TIME BUT THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT I THOUGHT IT WAS MORE PLAUSIBLE THAN A SYSTEM THEY HAVE BEEN TESTING FOR A LONG TIME MESSING UP...

[justified] Jester if you can't track progress then why would this not take months more or longer?

[Jester] justified WHAT MAKES YOU THINK WE CAN'T?

[gramps77] Jester sO am I understanding you to say that Lew delivered something in writing to China that they accepted and that a public announcement is not now needed?

[Jester] BUT THEY CHANGED THE RULES ON ONE OF THE PEOPLE WE ARE WATCHING... I REPORTED THAT LAST NIGHT... SO NOW IT IS NOT AS CRITICAL... BUT ONLY CAN MAKE A DAY OR TWO DIFFERENCE.... SO WE KEEP WATCHING...

[Shivohm] Jester Just an observation! The “average” IT project has significant delays due to a variety of reasons – some understandable and others totally ridiculous! Compared to an “average” IT project this is a HUGE Mega-Magilla! It would be nothing short of miraculous if this project can ever come in on time! Stuff will happen! Murphy lives on! All we can do is patiently wait and enjoy the ride and it will finish when the PTB are ready to declare a victory! I am like the next guy wanting to retire and sipping margaritas

[Jester] Shivohm AND YOU ARE SO RIGHT WITH THAT POST... THE MAGNITIDE IS GINOURMOUS...

[surfnomad] Jester Was the paper work error A crazy number like $400 per dong tha tcame out thats what I heard today but has since been corrected

[Jester] surfnomad YOU MADE ME LAUGH... BUT YES... IT WAS ABOUT THAT SILLY WHEN I HEARD IT..

[dave_144] Jester How does the Popes Sept 1 decree play into all of this? Will it have any effect on rounding up all the rats?

[Jester] dave_144 LOT'S OF THINGS LINING UP FOR THE 1ST IN MY OPINON... I DO THINK THE POPE GAVE EVERYONE DUE NOTICE TO GET THEIR AFFAIRS IN ORDER... OR ELSE...

[wisemonkey1] [gramps77] Jester so am I understanding you to say that Lew delivered something in writing to China that they accepted and that a public announcement is not now needed?

[Jester] wisemonkey1 PRETTY MUCH... WE HAVE BEEN AWARE FOR SOME TIME THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS... WE ARE AWARE THEY HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED ACCOURDING TO OUR SOURCES SEVERAL TIMES ALREADY... WE HEARD TONIGHT COULD BE THE NIGHT EARLIER... BUT THEN SOME OTHER THINGS DID NOT QUITE GEL THE WAY WE WERE HOPING SO WE ARE NOT EXPECTING TONIGHT... And IT IS GETTING PRETTY LATE...

 [luckyb] jester what does the pope mean when he says affiars in order , this i cannot under stand ,

[Jester] luckyb DID YOU READ THE DECREE?/ IT IS PRETTY CLEAR...,

 [Dinangme] Ouch on not happening tonight

 [wango1] Dinangme the annoucements and they can go at anytime

[Grunt0311] ampman02    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/francesco/motu_proprio/documents/papa-francesco-motu-proprio_20130711_organi-giudiziari_en.html

[Rusty_Nail] Wango , Dinangme.... Figuring the RV timing well...Its like bbq ribs. You can take them out early but they ain't done. So you watch then put a little bbq sauce on them and when the meat is falling off the bone it is done. You can't rush them. They are done in their own due time.

[Jester] THE OTHER INTERESTING THING THAT I SAW RECENTLY WAS THIS... Apostolic Letter Issued Motu Proprio for the prevention and contrast of laundering activities, financing of terrorism and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction (8 August 2013)... WHICH HAS NOT BEEN TRANSLATED TO ENGLICH YET BUT I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THAT....

[Jester] THAT IS FROM THE WESITE OF THE VATICAN...

[luckyb] now that i know but how can the pope have that power is he like the highest president of the world or something like that ? i thought he was just the head of the catloic church

[dave_144] luckyb My understanding is All governments are based on Vatican laws. And he has removed their protection.

[Jester] HE IS THE LEADER OF THE CHURCH NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT... EVERYTHING ELSE IS AN OFFSHOOT OF HOW IT WAS STARTED.. SO... MAKE YOUR OWN DETERMINATION OF WHO IS THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD... BUT SINCE I KNOW WHO HE FOLLOWS... I KIND OF THINK HE MIGHT VERY WELL BE...

[Jester] THE MAIN THING IS IT IS VERY REFRESHING TO SEE SUCH A POWERFUL MAN IN ANY REGARD STEP UP AND DO THE RIGHT THING... WISH A LOT OF OTHER POWERFUL PEOPLE WOULD FOLLOW THAT EXAMPLE....

[greasee5] this document issued by Pope Francis is historic on multiple levels, but most significant above all others in that it recognizes the supremacy of the Golden Rule, The "color of law" will no longer be sanctioned, only the "Rule of Law." = no man is above the law

[Jester] GUYS... WHEN IT HAPPENED I WAS AWARE THAT THEY WANTED SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT POWER... WHO WAS PURE OF HEART AND SPIRIT... TO TAKE THAT JOB... FOR OBVIOUS REASONS....

[Jester] I FOR ONE THINK THEY PICKED THE RIGHT GUY... AND NOW IT WILL BE OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE WE PICK THE RIGHT GUYS IN THE FUTURE TOO... EDUCATION WILL BE KEY TO THE SUCCESS OF THE FUTURE...

[markb] Jester - toolfan4 had a great question : Jester these announcements have me puzzled....are they going to preempt prime time tv for a 3 hour announcement on a subject most peeps will not understand or care about....we will care but thats about it.

[Jester] markb I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE THE CASE... NOT FOR SURE AT THE START BUT FOR SURE AT SOME TIME... AND THOSE PEOPLE WILL NEED AN EXPLANATION ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON WHEN THE TIME COMES... THERE WILL HAVE TO BE SOMETHING SAID...

[pokerbrat] Jester. So the retirment of the old corrupt pope and the picking the new pope. Was that the start of the Reset process? The same that will happen with O? Berneke ect....

[Jester] pokerbrat WAS PART OF THE PROCESS... WE REPORTED ON THAT WHEN IT HAPPENED... IT HAD TO HAPPEN TO RID THE VATICAN OF THE CORRUPTION AS SUCH A MAJOR PART OF THE SYSTEM...

[computerchic] Jester You previously mentioned the possibility that the emergency broadcast system will be used for announcmnts. Last night we had 'emergency broadcast tests' interrupt our Tivo recorded show about evry half hour. We had no control over it and it popped us right out of the recorded show, had to wait for the test to be done to watch recorded show...1st time ever happened Do you think this has anything to do with the ptb making sure that the emergency system will be viewed by all, including if u use a dvr

[Jester] computerchic I HAVE HEARD THAT IS THE PLAN... AND I HAVE NOTICED THEY HAVE BEEN TESTING THE SYSTEM A LOT LATELY...

[computerchic] Jester it was crazy and they have never interrupted RECORDED tivo shows before! Lol

 [Jester] IT HAS ONCE AGAIN BEEN MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE WITH YOU FINE AMERICANS TONIGHT... I HOPE YOU HAVE ENJOYED THIS NIGHT AS MUCH AS I HAVE... THANK YOU MY FRIENDS FOR YOUR SUPPORT... BUT GET READY.... THE WORK IS ONLY BEGINNING.. WE ARE BACK TO THE WORDS OF BENJAMIN FRANKLIN... NOW WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO KEEP WHAT WE ARE BEING GIVEN...

[Jester] GOOD NIGHT FRIENDS... TAKE CARE... GOD BLESS YOU ALL... AND GOD BLESS AMERICA....

Jester] THANK ALL YOU WONDERFUL MODS..

GOLDEAGLE POST, 21 AUGUST

08/21/13 [goldeagle] byecar Because we have come to that magical time where the clock has run out.

The new CIX system was running great until they had to push the new RV rates out to the smaller banks.

According to Tony, four countries stepped in to make sure it is either a real technical problem, or was someone playing games in not wanting to see this happen. As most of you know, there are some in the US that don't want to see this happen.

[goldeagle] There are those in government and banking that do fear this happening for a couple of very good reasons.

1. Get out of debt. If you pay off your mortgage, car paymnets and credit cards, banks are making a lot less money on the interest they charge you.

2.They fear people getting politically active.

KAPERONI POST, 21 AUGUST

8-21-2013  Newshound Guru Kaperoni: This is direct from Iraqi TV today. Iraqi dinar will increase substantially by mid -2014...but more importantly this...Iraq will join international currency organizations in the near future.  that can only mean Forex folks!  they not waiting... they said, its value will be substantial by mid 2014.  that means they need to start soon raising the value if they expect to meet that goal.  [So you believe the float will start soon? (Not Iraqi soon I hope)?]   yes  [that doesn't mean it will start at the 1160 that you say it could start at above a dollar right]  it can start anywhere they want...just get it going.   I think that is very good and no articles have it...that news [came] from iraqi tv.

TONY'S WED. CC NOTES, 21 AUGUST

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TNT BLAST STARTING NOW.......T = TONY | C = CALLER

T - this is an exceptional day and by the end of the call we'll be happy!

T - there is no "VIP" list - peeps keeps sending me emails about this. There are no VIP Members. A couple of people sent $100 or more, so those people I invited to have a little private time in Vegas because of that. That's it. There is no list to put you on.

T - a lot of people are saying something about TNTDinar, Tony and Ray. Our info is similar, no worries. I do believe Okie is being used. I don't care where MtnGoat is located. She is putting out details from similar sources is all I care about. Your business is yours and your money is yours. Listen to everybody and then see what really happens in the news 203 days later. I think you're adult enough to handle it and sort it out.
T - Let's talk about what's going on today. Yesterday in my TNT Blast I told you there was a bank that had VND at $99. This morning we confirmed that. They're in Columbus, OH. There's another bank (Austin, TX) with VND at $115. These are all banks going by the bank rates, which tells us something is wrong. Even tho we were told the system is finished and we're waiting on the authorization, something is wrong. Re-read Mtn Goat's explanation about the train going down the tracks. Apparently something is wrong and the wrong rates are posting.

T - there are multiple countries that have come here to help us get this done. Either they're coming to help or coming to make sure we're not manipulating the rates.

T - as this morning 15-20 minutes, our favorite people were called in again. They tried again last night and it still wasn't 100%. Will they keep trying? Yes, until they get it right. It's back to a techinical issue we didn't know about. We don't know when it'll be fixed but they are prepared for it again (people at the called centers, banks, etc.).

T - BANK STORY: our guy with the $115 VND called me. His banker showed him the list of currencies changing. The banker was frustrated about the IQN. The banks aren't doing without somebody telling them to do it. Somebody is saying they're trying to get this done now. If they were going to wait until Jan or April, they wouldn't have been training all their people and calling them in everyday to work.

T - We talk to Iraq everyday and they're saying they don't understand why we're not seeing it here. Contractors have the current 3.44 revalued rate. But it seems a couple of gurus are finding the one or 2 people who don't have loaded cards.

T - once again we are at the point where we are waiting for them to fix them. The rates have been agreed upon and we are waiting to hear the present rates today.

T - issue with the system; we heard from DC that's the issue (rates not populating correctly). We know that's the case. We have guys watching 4X "live" and in the middle of the night the countries are pinging all night long, when normally they'll get 1-2 pings nightly.

SHORT Q&A:

Q - When you hear the RV is live, what info will we get in the Blast? A - I'll do a call and give you the info I have, then we'll schedule time to get to banks ASAP. Then I'll talk to banks about rates, standard rates, group rates, etc. I'll give you guys the levels for WF (even if they won't); I will give you the best rate I got at the bank so you'll know what to expect. Then I expect you guys to come in here and help each other.

Q - stated if not done by today, IMF would step in? A - they are trying to figure it out today.

Q - do you see anything to stop it this week or today? A - I've explained the issue and what they're trying to complete.

Q - we have a new category on our Forum: TNT GLobal for international members.

Q - can we still negotiate a higher rate on the VND? A - yes, if you know the higher rate I believe you can negotiate.

Q - where are we? A - already told you where we are at. We're done and the system is runinng. The issue is going out to each branch.

Q - UST telling the banks the rates? T - yes, they are the final authority. They have given the rates and there are no holds on them, but they are waiting for the authorization codes to do the actual transactions.

Q - can Canadian holders CE in the USA? T - they don't ask for your citizenship at the banks.

T - WF or any other banks should not require Proof of Purchase at CE. I don't know about other countries' rates. We probably won't know until it's "live" unless you can contact a banker there.

T - people at WF with the groups say you can only use their rate once, including your reserves.

Q - level of truth that IMF will push the RV if we don't RV? A - the only thing stopping it is they're trying to figure out how they can push the button.

Q -how confident are you we'll see the RV soon? A - I'm not because we should have seen this by now.

Q - who won, the USA or World? A - they've agree with the USA rate 5X now and we still haven't produced. How long can that go on until they decide they want it revalued?

T - Regarding the VND, they've found more gold in VN than has been found in the past 1,000 years. Now they can use it.

T - the real world is that B3 is based on real assets; not based on a belief system created by man (Bernie Madoff story). Our banking system and currency has been about a belief system. That's what's happening with B3, as long as we believe that Fort Knox full of gold we are ok.

"LIVE" Q & A STARTING NOW…….C = CALLER | T = TONY

C - regarding the 30 days, could all of these delays the USA is causing affect that? T - no, it's not about a date, it's about a limitaton on the CE, i.e., 30 days to prevent smuggling.

C - is there a method to their madness? There def is a glitch with the VND rates all over the board. But we're near the 45-day window of being asset backed. A - my understanding is that they are trying to get us more money. It was 3.44 and now it's looking at $14-15. O is trying to do something for us, not against us. That is why Poppy3's email frustrates me because O is working for us, not against us.

C - What's the latest rate you've heard on the VND? T - over $3.

C - we know this can't drag on forever. If you had to bet on it, when is the latest you'd think we would RV? T - they could drag it on forever; now that the Iraqis have money things have calmed down; I liked that pressure point. Now it's more political, even tho they've agreed 4-5 times on the rates. But the longer we wait the higher the rates go. They're saying everything is done. 4-5 countries have sent in their people to help either fix the problem or observing to make sure we're not doing anything wrong.

C - has your WF bank actually stated they have MCA? T - yes, go to their website and search for MCA (multi-currency accounts). They are mainly for businesses but they're going to make that available for individuals. The branches will say they don't have MCA, but the website does.

C - do you believe the IQD is truly gold-backed and, if so, when we depost it separately into a NIB account, will it be protected on Oct. 8? T - I was told out of DC to put VND and IQD in two separate accts . Let's say we have $ in regular acct and money into a TAG acct and you have $100k in both accts. so people are saying that on Oct 8 your TAG will say $100K and you other will go down to 70K ? Is that the fear-mongering? That's nonsense.

T - people aren't fully explaining a lot of things to you. They're not explaining this to the whole country, the whole world, etc., much less to you and me (dinar holders). Markets would crash. It just doesn't make sense to me.

C - I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but do you think the Cabal/Illuminati is keeping this from happening so they won't be exposed as to what they've done to Native Americans and people of color? T - the Cabal already owns a portion of every central bank in almost every country. They don't need to just target us. This is going on to help us. A lot happened at the Vatican and that is what they're trying to straighten up. I don't see them just targeting us.

C - are we the last country holding up the RV? T - yes, this is true. Regarding some cashing out in India at 3.44, we have not heard that and can't collaborate. They are all waiting - it has to be the GCR, which can't happen until the RV happens.

C - are they waiting until Sept. 1 when the UN Operational Rates change? T - no, they're attempting it everyday.

T - they are bringing in people today (we are close to the time). They are being directed to bring their people in because they are trying to get it done again today.

C - Explain the difference between the IQD and IQN? T - the IQD is the 3-zero notes. The IQN is the new currency (lower denoms).

C - How long will the people coming here to help stay here until they decide to move it? T - they are trying both methods right now and they first one to succeed wins. That is motivating the USA to get it done first so we get the higher rate.

C - there are no last-minute negotiations? T - I can't say that, but both teams are trying to figure it.

C - do you know anything about the new law supposedly in place about changing the IQD into other currency? T - need to check out this. Don't know anything definitive.

C - have you heard that the rate for the IQD is above $30 (street rate)? T - not the street rate. Anything is possible. I've heard some outlandish numbers yesterday and don't see how that is possible. But the #'s I do know are double-digits (high) that are reasonable and make sense to me. When we go into the 20's, that's possible. Could they go above that? Don't know.

C - Would the rates in Canada be close to the USA rates? T - I've heard nothing about Canadian rates. They might not want to set the rate that high for their economy. We're setting it high for our country, our debt ceiling, our economy. Our country has to produce the USD for this exchange, not Iraq.

C - I'm concerned about CE the VND until the FRN and UST transition is complete. T - I don't think anything is going to happen. You're going to trade one reserve note for one treasury note. It's a 1-to-1 match. The price won't change in the store when you switch from FRN to UST. It will take the same of each to purchase a loaf of bread.

C - how will the exchange help us? T - it will help create a 2-class society until the USD comes back up. Our buying and investments will help bring it back up. It's a process that we have to go thru.

C - Are USB and CitiBank included in the CE? T - Don't know but they've added more M&P banks. We know BoA, City, Chase, WF, 5/3, BB&T for sure are involved.

C - Most people don't understand the UST vs. FRN. T - they're trying to confuse people by saying the UST is worth more than the FRN. This is August and all we've seen so far is the $100 note. If it's going to happen in Oct when will they tell us details?

C - when will your sources tell you we have an RV? T - I'll be getting calls before it happens, "get ready", "it's really happening.

C - we won't know anything, so we'll be waiting for you. T - I don't give you everytime I get a call. They do have time frames set up, sometimes it's a 12-hour timeframe sometimes it's a 2-hour timeframe. Then they call and say "it's over, we tried but it didn't work."

C - I'm concerned with the wire because I owe over $500K to pay off my reserves [conversation about how you can owe over $500K and not have paid at least 5%]. T - you might have to send 2 wires to keep it under the bank's threshold of $500K.

C - Are we still in a belief-system? I thought our new B3 backing is asset-backed. T - before there was currency, people bartered things they could physically touch and see (silver and gold). We placed a value on gold and silver because of what it could be used for. Now we have a piece of paper replacing that bar of gold so we don't have to carry around that bar of gold. And when you give that piece of paper to someone that gold now belongs to them. No one went to Fort Knox to see the gold. Well NOW we've gone BACK to the gold standard, but it's still a belief system that unless I have that physical gold in my hand I'm trusting that the gold is there behind it.

T - There had to be a system to put this together. It's all digits on a computer screen. No one is going to walk out of a bank with millions of dollars. You're never going to see your money - it's all digital. We've changed the belief system back to the way it was supposed to be (asset-backed). The reset is a way for us to return to asset-backed currency.

C - I'm going to CE with Sterling. If you can exchange for Canadian or the Yuan and wire it to an MCA at WF, there should not be a tax issue, right? T - When you do your tax return you will be asked if you have any MCA? It's not taxable until it becomes USD.

C - have you heard if O is supposed to make a speech today? T - haven't heard about that.

C - heard anything about dealers getting 2 notices and when they get the 3rd notice they have to change their rates? T - haven't heard anything about that.

C - If was running these banks, with all the dry runs I'd tell the PTB to put up or shut up. If I'm going to bank-shop, will these banks tell me their rates before I make an appointment? T - yes, I think they will tell you their current rate, or go to their websites for the base rates. Start from there.

T - everybody is frustrated. Call centers, tellers, etc. are tired of being on standby and not getting to do anything. These are full-time employees, not partimers or temp employees.

T - We can't be until Christmas getting this done. The other countries are saying "you're the USA and you can't do this?" Let us see what you're doing so we know it's not what you're doing on purpose.

C - do you think this will go into September? T - no, they don't want it to go that far. They're not lying to us because they're telling the rest of the world it's not us. It's not about us not having political power or having the money, etc. If they didn't want us to have it he could sign it into law to stop it.

T - I don't get mad if someone else finds out something before me. I don't have a problem with that. I go and check it out with my resources. I can't say others are wrong because I'm not hearing it. I don't know everything - I just know what I know. Okie is flying the plane - I'm driving the train.

C - regarding the VND being different prices at different banks - those are the old rates. What about the new rates? T - the new rate is consistent at the back screens but the teller screens are inconsistent. Shouldn't be 3 different rates, 3 different systems. Haven't checked other currencies.

[FLPatriot59] C - I was told by a banker to put the IQD in a NIB account to protect it should something occur before the Oct. 8. [CALLER IS EDUCATING TONY WITH 3 SCENARIOS ABOUT THE UST, FRN, NIB ACCOUNTS, ETC.]

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 21 AUGUST

8-21-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony    [We know this can't drag on forever. If you had to bet on it, when is the latest you'd think we would RV?]  They could drag it on forever; now that the Iraqis have money things have calmed down.   I liked that pressure point. Now it's more political, even though they've agreed 4-5 times on the rates. But the longer we wait the higher the rates go. They're saying everything is done. 4-5 countries have sent in their people to help either fix the problem or observing to make sure we're not doing anything wrong.  [post 4 of 4]

8-21-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony    [Will the UST tell the banks the rates]  Yes, they are the final authority. They have given the rates and there are no holds on them, but they are waiting for the authorization codes to do the actual transactions.  [How confident are you we'll see the RV soon?]  I'm not because we should have seen this by now.  [Regarding the 30 days, could all of these delays the USA is causing affect that?]  No, it's not about a date, it's about a limitation on the CE, the 30 days is to prevent smuggling. [What's the latest rate you've heard on the VND?]  Over $3.  [post 3 of 4....stay tuned]

8-21-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony   We talk to Iraq daily, their cards are loaded & they're spending money and they're saying they don't understand why we're not seeing it here. Contractors have the current 3.44 revalued rate.  They had a meeting and the rates have been agreed upon and we are waiting to hear the present rates today.   We heard from DC that the issue is with the system.  That is what I am hearing from our people as well. So we know it is in fact the case.  We have guys watching forex live in the middle of the night & for the last 3 nights, countries have been pinging like never before.   [do you think this will go into September? No, they don't want it to go that far.  [post 2 of 4....stay tuned]

8-21-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony    This morning our favorite people were called in again.  These people at the call centers, banks, etc. are prepared. They tried again last night and it still wasn't 100%. Will they keep trying? Yes, until they get it right. It's back to a technical issue we didn't know about. The issue is going out to each branch. We don't know when it'll be fixed but they are prepared for it again. They're trying to get this done now. If they were going to wait until January or April, they wouldn't have been training all their people and calling them in everyday to work.  [post 1 of 4....stay tuned]

8-21-2013  Newshound Guru Adam Montana   [How is currency valued? Gold reserves? Is this the reason why we have not seen the IQD change?]   The Iraqi currency is set by the CBI - basically, whatever the CBI says the value is - that's what it is. I know that might sound overly simple, but it literally IS that simple. If the CBI says they will pay .10 for the Dinar, then it's worth .10. If they say they will pay $2 for it - the rate is $2.  And if Iraq would just pass the HCL, allowing them to kick their oil business into high gear, they should have NO PROBLEM generating the faith and revenue to kick their currency value up to at least $1.

8-21-2013  Intel Guru Loechin    I am really looking forward to something happening today sometime...The day is way to young ...Things are awesome as we speak. 

8-21-2013  Intel Guru Jester    I TALKED WITH [GURU] REDWOLF TODAY ABOUT THE VALUATIONS OF THE COUNTRIES AT GREAT LENGTH TODAY. WE FEEL THERE MAY VERY WELL BE SOME SURPRISES.  NO ONE REALLY KNOWS THE ACTUAL ASSET VALUATIONS OF COUNTRIES THAT ARE ALL ABOUT TO RESET...SO SOME MAY GO WAY UP AND OTHERS FALL SOMEWHAT.  WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THEY ARE VALUED TODAY THERE MAY BE SOME PRETTY BIG DIFFERENCES IN THE ASSET BASES FROM WHAT WE SEE TODAY.   SO IT IS GOING TO BE A BIT OF A RIDE IN OUR OPINION...THINGS ARE LOOKING VERY GOOD.  [post 2 of 2]

8-21-2013  Intel Guru Jester    STREET RATE OR ASSET RATE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IS THE FOREX RATE...WILL BE CLOSE TO KUWAIT.  [is it true that the dong is not going to be gold backed?]   THE DONG WILL BE ASSET BACKED IN THEIR COUNTRY WHEN THE RESET TAKES PLACE. [won't all the "new" currencies be asset backed? Is that not the whole point go the global reset? YOU HAVE IT RIGHT.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

8-21-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   [In your opinion what are the next 2 or 3 strategic moves Iraq will do to allow their currency to substantially raise in value over the next few months/years]  No moves needed that I see, just a rate.  [If it is just a rate BBG - who will allow a significant rate increase? IMF? UN? Iraq? All of the above. Iraq and possibly Maliki being the last holdouts.  [that would mean any day we could see this if poppy3 info is right thur or friday would look pretty good that is what I've been saying.
8-21-2013  Intel Guru TerryK   I WAS TOLD THAT THE BANKS ARE TO SYNC TONIGHT AT 2-3AM EST...AND THIS IS THE PRIME TIME.  SO THAT WOULD JIVE WITH GOING BACK IN TOMORROW SOMETIME.  ONCE THE PROCESS IS DONE  I WOULD SAY THAT THIS SHOULD BE A VERY INTERESTING WEEK.  I DO HAVE SOME CRAZY RATES TODAY - 14.68 ON DINAR AND THE DONG WAS 4.23  IS WHAT I GOT TODAY.

LOECHIN POST, 21 AUGUST

8-21-13 Loechin: I am really looking forward to something happening today sometime ... The day is way to young ...Things are awesome as we speak.  

MORT POST FROM TNT FORUM, 21 AUGUST

[mort] 12:10 pm wed got info from my guy that 2 days ago there were 100 countries run through with no problem, now the rest are run through ok but there are #7 countries who are not happy with their rate and want it changed, but now all rates are in the banks and on the screens and just waiting for the us treasury to push the button, 

CL has had it with this whole process taking forever for it to happen. She said the #7 countries will stay as is and they will just have to deal with it. She said if the us treas. Doesn't press the button today the imf will step in and press the button for them-they want this done!!

COMPASSION POST FROM MIG FORUM : " HE CASHED IN DINAR AT $3.44 TODAY", 21 AUGUST

MIG:

[hybrid33] [Compassion] I just received a phone call from a credible source who explained that his friend just went to a bank in India and cashed in Dinar at $3.44. The banker in India told him he better go back to America with the rest of his Dinars because the rate is better. We are waiting confirmation from the traveler. We are almost there. Come RV!!!!!!

EXOGEN UPDATE, 21 AUGUST

Stage2Omega:

[stage2omega] Just dropped by real fast with news, , our contact stated again this evening that yesterdays meeting was the final piece needed to release the kraken!!!

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PER CONVERSATION WITH CME CONTACT, ALL TRADERS ARE
ON HIGHEST ALERT FOR THE GCR RELEASE.

FRANK26 & EAGLE1 CALL NOTES, 21 AUGUST

Post By Love4529 » August 21st, 2013, 2:47 am  •  [Post 104]

FRANK26 & EAGLE1! - KTFA Tuesday call notes   [SNIPPET]

F26: Eagle1, are you there?
E1: I'm here!
F26: Hey, hey buddy!!
E1: First I want to offer a comment on what you just said.

F26: Yes sir! Go ahead!

E1: I don't know if you're aware of it, but NASA scientists are saying that the sun is in a process of a magnetic shift. The poles are in the process of changing right now.

F26: Yes sir, I know that. Actually I've known that, it was projected back in 1977. People have to be prepared for this, it will be like being jolted back into the stone age. It will take awhile before the normality , of having elecricity functioning normally in your house again.
  F26: So anyway, Regnar you talked accounts yesterday. Specific accounts. Compared from the money we have now, to the money that will be coming in. Can you briefly walk over that sir?

E1: Sure. The dinar is gold-backed. The USD is not asset backed .. at the moment. Until the global currency reset is fully complete, the USD will not be asset backed at all. And so, because of the value of the dinar, you want to preserve that value!

THE TAG ACCOUNTS

And so WELLS FARGO is offering us an account equal to the TAG ACCOUNTS, that were created under Dodd-Frank. And by the way, I've not had a chance to review the text from yesterday's Dodd-Frank meetings.

Obama held this Dodd-Frank meeting with all of the nations' leading finanial people. There was like a veritable "who's who" of the financial world. But they talked about Dodd-Frank and extensions to the Dodd-Frank rules.

I have not had a chance to look at that, so I can't speak to where all they added to, or took away from it.

But what we know from Wells Fargo is that they have offered us the equivalent of A TAG ACCOUNT, saying they WILL BACK IT UP and the us dollars that we have, in this account WILL NOT SUFFER DE-VALUATION .. and we WON'T TAKE A LOSS IN THEIR VALUE .. when the new us dollar is rolled out in October.

If we put the moneys from our dinars exchange, into a:

- Zero balance  - Non-Interest bearing account

It is an account they WILL CREATE FOR YOU. If you talk with your banker or your private banker, they will set this up for you

They will probably want to SET IT UP AS A BUSINESS ACCOUNT, rather than a personal account. That's the language they have used with me as I've spoken to them about it.

And what they want to do is attach it to our Trust accounts. That's how they want to attach them (the TAG accounts). ZERO BALANCE ACCOUNT & NON-INTEREST BEARING

Having the zero balance account, and having the non-interest bearing

.. if you got $10 million usd , or $50 million usd in that account, Wells Fargo WILL PROTECT IT BY DISTRIBUTION.

Frank has talked in the past about CDARS. It's a distribution system where the funds are distributed across numerous accounts, and across numerous finance entities, FOR THE SAKE OF PROTECTION. And I believe that that is what WF intends to do.  The alternative to it is to have U.S. Treasuries.

You can purchase your own US treasuries. WF or any bank will sell you US treasuries, and you can use those, you can use your USdollars, even the funds that you would get, if you EXCHANGED DONG, or RUPIAH.

You can use those dollars to purchase treasuries AND PROTECT THE MONEY = just as though it were in a tag account.

Andy: Regnar?

E1: Yes sir!

Andy: I have a question about that account. If we're going to put the money into a non-interest bearing account, how long do they expect us to keep it there?

E1: Once the new us dollar is rolled out in October, then it becomes a moot point. Really, the objective here is protection. Now if you're going to deposit into a banking institution, that is in questionable financial shape, then you better be buying US treasuries.

But if you put it in a bank that is thoroughly and totally Basel III compliant, you should be safe.

Andy: But the money's not going to grow though. So, Biblically, we would be like the servant hiding...

E1: You are hiding your "talents in the dirt" (buried funds, hidden).

Andy: Correct.

E1: No, this (Tag accounts) is a short-term proposition.

Andy: Okay, so they're not going to say we've got to leave it there for a year, 2 years..or something. There will be no time limit, probably.

E1: No. I mean, here we are, we're in mid-August. We're less than 60-days away from the expected roll out of the new us dollar.

Andy: Correct.

E1: So, you know, That's the time frame we're looking at. If you don't need it in the form of us dollars, keep it in the form of dinar.

Don't exchange all your dinar.

If you need to exchange dinar, then exchange what you absolutely need to have in order to be debt-free.

Make sure you first sow seed into the Kingdom, so that you have something that the Lord can take and multiply for you.

You're not giving the Lord anything, if all you're doing is tithing. Because tithing .. the tithe belongs to him in the first place. That's not giving him something to multiply. So you sow seed, and you give on top of that, and you give the Lord something to multiply for you. And he'll take your "little" , and multiply it into something huge.

Andy: Amen. Amen.

INDONESIA RUPIAH

E1: The Indonesia Rupiah is at it's lowest in over a year. It has been artificially depressed, in order to make it less attractive to investors. That's a preparatory move, to the REVALUE of it.

The Indonesian Central Bank is preparing to step in.

If traders try to push it down any further, the Indonesian Central Bank is going to step in , and force it back up, so traders don't make a windfall profit off of it.

BulldogFord (via Frank): Can you repeat about this please, Regnar? Another option is to use treasuries. Is this T-Bills, or is this T-Notes?

E1: We're talking about: T-BILLS .. or US Treasury bonds. T-Bills are sold by the bank in 30-day increments, 60-dayincrements, 90 day increments. You can buy them at whater length you want to.

So if you got $10million from your exchange, after you have exchanged your dinar.. you can go buy 60-day or 90-day treasury bills (treasury bonds), that will expire and pay out at the end of that.

Question from forum (via Frank): Do you think we will only have 30 days to exchange our Iraqi dinar? And on the 31st day, they go null and void?

E1: I'm going to answer that with this: pfffffffffffffffffffft (raspberry sound)

CANADA BANKS FOR EXCHANGE

Agnes: About this 30-days. I'm a financial planner and I'm helping some people in Canada. And one of the things they are saying is the 30-days is because we did not have sanctions with Iraq like how President Bush signed those executive orders, that once it goes international, it's very difficult to clear any currency in 30-days.

E1: Yeah, that's absolutely correct Agnes. To put a 30-days limit on the exchange of a currency, especially a currency that is not being phased out, you know. They may phase out the 25K an the 10K notes in daily usage .. And certainly they have a desire to draw those in as much as they can.

But, it would violate every international banking rule there is. It would be a violation of IMF protocols, for them to put a 30-day limit.

It's fiscally and logistically impossible to gather in all of the dinar that is out there. We're talking about around 36 Trillion dinar, that's out in circulation outside of the country. There isn't any way in the world they would gather that in, in 30-days!

Agnes: I actually think it's the bankers saying that; because they want the spread!

E1: My Canada friends are exchanging in the US, and keeping funds in the US accounts.

Agnes: I wanted to come onto the call because I was hoping you would have information for Canadians on how best to cash in. But you think the best is the US?

E1: I travel to Canada once a year, been doing that for 20 years. And I have a bank account in Canada. I talk to the bank manager about the exchange of the dinar. And they haven't event said anything about a 30-day limit.

Agnes: Why are your Canadian friends going to the states, especially if the American dollar is to fall and you've actually said in your talks, if they want to convert to Canadian dollars,

E1: This is for the initial exchange. For example, RBC has branches inside the US. Toronto Dominion has branches in the US. So you if you go to a Canadian bank inside US, and you do your exchange in the Canadian bank inside US, you can withdraw your funds, inside Canada, out of that same account!

Agnes: Correct! But, that does affect our taxes if they have over $100,000 dollars foreign money, outside the country. So, immediately it sets alarms! And that's why I was curious why they would go there.

Now, one thing I did notice on my bank account, is the Royal Bank Canada, they have changed their website. If you live in the states, you can actually now go online, and open a bank account in Canadian funds.

E1: Really!!?

Agnes: Yes!! That just happened! I'm curious, if your bank has it where Americans can do this (exchange) and use these banks, without crossing the border?

E1: You know, I've got a friend at Toronto Dominion, and I'll get a hold of him, and see if TD is doing the same thing. That's the first I've heard of that, and I find that very interesting!

Agnes: Yes! My brother came to tell me he could do this, and I said "Noo way!" I've worked in the bank and I said, "that's never possible", I did my own research, and I said, "Look, I have to apologize .. because the banker told him that."

And I wondered if that has anything to do with the global reset?

So right now your friend in Canada, in the Toronto Dominion, doesn't know if they will be exchanging?

E1: I don't know.. we haven't even had that discussion between us

Agnes: Could you call, or could I call your friend, with you referring?? Because there are quite a few people that would like to know where they can exchange.

If you cross the border after you exchange, and it's revalued.. you have to declare everything.

E1: Yes, when you carry currency that has revalued, across the border, you do have to declare it.

Atlas (via Frank): There are 5 banks in Canada that WILL BE involved in the exchange, in the foreign currency exchange of the Iraqi dinar.The banks that do the currency exchange in Canada are known as The Big Five. They all do foreign currency exchanges.

- The Royal Bank of Canada (RBC)

- TD Canada Trust

- Scotia Bank

- BMO Financial Groups

- Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (CIBC)

These full list of banks can be found at: http://www.BanksinCanada.net

The HSBC bank is worldwide, which will also do foreign currency exchanges! You can have multiple HSBC accounts and transfer money, without having to incur a foreign exchange transfer fee.

Canada's Central Bank is called The Bank of Canada. If you need to ask them anything about this, go to: http://www.BankofCanada.ca Their website has a large list of exchange rate converters .. under the "rates and statistics"

And finally, you can buy foreign currency online in Canada = at http://www.Travelex.ca

They will not sell the IQD or the VND, however, they do sell the (Indonesian) Rupiah.

People can have it they have friends or family in the United States, and then we (KTFA) can fulfill the order transactions for purchasing. I am not licensed to sell to Canada, but the dealer has a permit to sell, = if the Canadians have United States friends and family that can purchase for them.

The signed Executive Order 13303 was for here in the US, so you in Canada are being limited on your education.

Agnes: I think it's like with people in the US going to Wells Fargo. Nobody admits to it (IQD). The banks here won't even talk to you about the dinar.

E1: The RBC in Canada, in Red Deer, Alberta.. they will talk to you about the dinar.

Agnes: I also think, that once this is done we won't have any problem. Question, do you think it will happen instantly or are we going to have to wait a month, for it to show in Canada?

E1: No, you will see it instantly.

Agnes: Okay, great. Just like the Dong. Because the dong right now is an international currency, so that's noo problem whatsoever. They won't even discuss the dinar with you, they say it's not international.

E1: If you go to travelex, their stories are changing at travelex. They will tell you now, that the dinar is now internationally tradeable .. At travelex in Portland, they will tell you that they're prepared to receive the dinar and to exchange it, once the revaluation is announced.

Agnes: Travelex spread is 20 cents. I would not advise people go to travelex, just as a last resort..

F26: Thank you for your questions Agnes! I think you put a lot of smiles on peoples faces with your information .. Why don't you give out your number, if you want to do that.

Agnes: Sure, I will let them know.. its In Design Financial Group Ltd.

And it's Agnes Hildebrant. The office is in Langley BC. I'm in Vancouver.

F26: That's A-g-n-e-s H-i-l-d-e-b-r-a-n-d-t

Agnes: Thank you!!! And thank you Eagle for answering my questions! I really appreciate it!

This helps alot! And thank you agai Frank, I really appreciate it!

JESTER CHAT, 21 AUGUST

[Jester] HELLO... HELLO.. HELLO.... GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS...

[Jester] BEEN A LOOOOONNNNGGGGGG DAY...

[mohawk] Jester: Will we know who's making the announcements and will there be some advanced warning on network or cable TV?

[Jester] mohawk WISH I KNEW THE ANSWER TO THAT SCHEDULE... I AM AWARE THEY WANT IT... AND WE ARE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING....

[dinarmaven] Jester I heard that there would be like a 3 hour announcement on the emergency broadcast system. Is this crazy?

[Jester] dinarmaven NOPE... HEARING THE SAME THING...

[Rusty_Nail] Jester, Any Comments on Okies post?
[Jester] Rusty_Nail I THINK THE EMPHASIS IS ON THE WRONG SYLLABLE... DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT IS WHO IS TO BLAME... NOT SURE WHY THERE HAS TO BE A BLAME... THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO GET DONE TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS SAFE... FOR US AND ALL OTHERS INVOLVED... I WISH EVERYONE WOULD GET ON THAT PAGE AND REALIZE THAT THINGS RE BEING DONE FOR A REASON AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM OF SUPPORTING THAT INSTEAD OF TRYING TO LAY BLAME FOR WHY SOMETHING HAS NOT HAPPENED

[wisemonkey1] Jester... Whats the word on man#3?? :)

[Jester] wisemonkey1 LET ME GET BACK TO YOU ON CONFIRMATION OF THAT... HEARD ALL WAS GOOD BUT EXPECTING ONE MORE CALL TO VERIFY IN A FEW MINUTES...

[Mya] Jester How is our timeline for announcements looking?

[Jester] Mya UNSURE... WERE TOLDS TO EXPECT THINGS LAST NIGHT AT 8PST... AND AGAIN AT 5PST TONIGHT... HAVEN'T SEEN A THING.... SO THAT INFO IS DEFINETLY SUSPECT NOW...

 [mohawk] Jester: Will we know who's making the announcements and will there be some advanced warning on network or cable TV?

[Jester] mohawk I DO BELIEVE LEW IS SET TO MAKE THE PRE-EMPTIVE POST... PROBABLY ABOUT GOLD BACKED CURRENCIES OR SOME SUCH... AND CL IS SET TO TALK ABOUT THE WORLD VIEW OF SAME... AND OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS IN ADDITION TO THOSE...

[kennyd] jester o speaks on the 28 th will we get our blessing after that ?

[Jester] kennyd I DOUBT HE HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ANNOUNCMENTS... JUST SAYING...

[HenryGeorge] Jester, Do you think the announcements will make it difficult for dinarians to be "invisible"?

[Jester] HenryGeorge CAN'T SEE WHY THEY WOULD... MOST WILL BE THEIR OWN WORST ENEMY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT... THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO RESIST MOUTHING OFF...

[jam777] Jester ... sooo ... you nolonger are expecting annoiuncements prior to rv ???

[Jester] YOU GUYS ARE NOT REALLY WATCHING EACH OTHERS QUESTIONS ARE YOU? I HAVE SEEN THE SAME 3RD GUY QUESTION SEVERAL TIMES AND NOW SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT ANNOUNCMENTS... HMMMMM....

[septic] Jester Where do we get the audited gold assets for each bank and really isn't that the UST responsible for a truly asset backed currency?

[Jester] septic OF COURSE IT IS THE RESPONSIBLITY OF THE UST... SIMPLE AS THAT... THEY ISSUE THE MONEY.. THEY BACK IT WITH ASSETS...

[Andrin] Hey Jester! Hope all is well on your end tonight. Everyone in the Dinarland seems to think this is it and I'm still not feeling it...How much of this is circular intel and how much is wishful thinking and reading into something that's not there? I feel bad for those who continue to field those calls from three letter folks...Have we not learned the lesson after all these years?

[Jester] Andrin I'D LOVE TO TELL YOU THAT TONIGHT IS DIFFERENT FOR THEM.... BUT I DON'T KNOW... THEY LIKE TO CALL IT... IS KEEPS THEIR MEMBERSHIP UP.... MAKES THE PEOPLE FEEL GOOD.... BUT WHO KNOWS WHY THEY DO WHAT THEY DO... I CAN TELL YOU THAT TONIGHT MAY BE DIFFERENT ACCORDING TO WHAT I AM SEEING.... BUT I STILL NEED SOME CONFIRMATION OF THOSE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING FOR AND WE DO NOT HAVE THAT YET...

[Jester] THINGS ARE LOOKING VERY POSITIVE THOUGH... WE "THINK" THE FLYER IS ON THE WAY... AGAIN... AWAITING SPECIFIC CONFIRMATION... WE THOUGHT WE HAD THAT THE OTHER NIGHT AND WERE CONFUSED WHEN THE INFO CAME BACK WRONG... WE KNOW HE IS A POST RV DEAL NOW... SO WE THINK THAT WILL INDICATE SOME OTHERE SPECIFIC THINGS DONE... AND WE ARE AWAITING CONFIRMATION OF THOSE THINGS TOO...

[texas1837] Jester will there be any arrests? It seems business as usual in DC.

[Jester] texas1837 I HAVE HEARD THAT THERE WILL BE... WE WAIT TO SEE HOW FAR THAT GOES...

 [surfnomad] Jester Have you heard of any legal action taken in the world court today to move this along

[Jester] surfnomad HEARD THE RUMORS... THAT MIGHT TAKE A WHILE... JUST SAYING...

[wisemonkey1] Jester... One more question sir... When u say the group rate may be close to KWD is that the street rate or our group rate? Could our group rate be higher! Thank you!

[Jester] wisemonkey1 ABSOLUTELY... STREET RATE OR ASSET RATE OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT IS THE FOREX RATE... WILL BE CLOSE TO KUWAIT... AS STATED MANY TIMES BEFORE.. THE EMAIL GROUP IS A PRIVATE PLACEMENT GROUP... TOTALLY DIFFERENT DEAL...

[Jester] OK.... CALL I JUST GOT... NO GO ON THE MOJO MAN... DANG IT...

[sektor] BOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sandytob] Jester But you said he might be POST RV, correct

 [Jester] sandytob AS I SAID LAST NIGHT... WE ARE HEARING HE IS TICKED OFF AT THE DELAYS... HE IS A POWERFUL INDIVIDUAL... AND HE DOES NOT WANT TO BE WAITING AROUND... AND HE HAS SAID THAT HE WANTS TO GO WHEN IT IS DONE AND HE CAN GET WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO DONE AS EFFICIENTLY AS POSSIBLE... HENCE HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE IT IS HAPPENING SO AS NOT TO WASTE HIS TIME..

[ace] Jester is it true that the dong is not going to be gold backed just got in here hope you have not answered that

[Jester] ace THE DONG WILL BE ASSET BACKED IN THEIR COUNTRY WHEN THE RESET TAKES PLACE...

[Yuup] Jester... I've often wondered if waiting for Hawaii to close has anything to do with this. Which is 38 minutes away.

[Jester] Yuup I DON'T THINK ANY PARTICULAR TIMING HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.... THEY WILL DO IT WHEN READY...

[Mya] Jester Somewhere lost in dinarland, it had been stated that the priviate placement groups may go before the RV... Is this crazy talk or of substance? Not being greedy, jsut curious..

[Jester] Mya THERE ARE PRIVATE PLACEMENTS IN THE TIERS... SOME PRE-RESET AND SOME POST-RESET.... THAT IS HOW WE KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON TO A CERTAIN EXTENT... THE ONES THAT ARE POST-RESET ARE KNOWN AND WE KNOW WHERE THEY ARE...

[texas77] Jester won't all the "new" currencies be asset backed? Is that not the whole point go the global reset? Or am I missing something big?

[Jester] texas77 NOPE... YOU ARE NOT MISSING ANYTHING... YOU HAVE IT RIGHT...

[pmw1973] Jester this dod frank issue something were waiting on?

[Jester] pmw1973 I KINDA DOUBT IT... THAT HAS BEEN A KNOWN QUANTITY FOR A WHILE... JUST NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH WITH IMPLEMENTATION...

[greek1212] Jester a little while ago we heard about Qi cards being loaded/activated and used with a rate of $3.44, then nothing said, is it verified at this point? We also hear about product being unloaded at the port and tarriffs going in to effect? Verified or not?? How can those things be possible at a rate of 1/8 of a cent? How much longer? Chap 7, Erbil, HCL, Budget? All have happen??

[Jester] greek1212 I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY Q CARDS OR WHATEVER... THAT IS NOT MY ARENA.... HOWEVER, I REPORTED LAST WEEK THAT WE KNOW CONTRACTORS GOT PAID... AND THEY GOT PAID AT THAT RATE... THEY CANNOT SEND IT HOME INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH... BUT THAT IS WHAT WE KNOW.... SO SOMETHING IS DEFINITELY GOING ON OVER THERE... NOT SURE WHY THEY ARE NOT POSTIN UPDATES ON THE CARDS ANYMORE... I HEARD THAT MAY HAVE BEEN A GUESS THAT DID NOT PAN OUT...

 moonview: Jester... do the Historical Assets have to go before the RV can happen?
 
Jester: moonview AHHHH.... WATCHING ZAP I SEE... AND A GOOD THING TO DO... AND YES THOSE THINGS ARE GOOD TO KNOW.... AND LAST WEEK SOME WERE CONTRACTED... SO IT IS MOVING FORWARD....
 
LdyFaith: Jester...if they were wrong before...about the timing of the 3rd man ..(he was suppose to fly and didnt)...could they have it wrong now ?....maybe or maybe not on "purpose"???

Jester: LdyFaith IT TAKES A WHILE TO CONFIRM IT... BUT WE EVENTUALLY FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON...

LdyFaith: thank you Jester...and yes..seems "you" do....

xnuke: Jester - Regarding double digits and rumored crazy-high rates, is this a play by the US to collect money in a hurry? ie. they double the rate, but implement a 50% tax, and dinar holders still get their money but the govt gets just as much - and fill their coffers now instead of just waiting for the big-gass savings on oil credits?

Jester: xnuke AS I HAVE SAID SEVERAL WEEKS RUNNING NOW... THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE BANKS SCREENS OR FOREX.... WE GET A REPORT FROM CUBBY EACH DAY... AND IT HAS NOT CHANGED IN WEEKS... WHERE THEY ARE GETTING SUCH INFORMATION ON RATES LIKE THAT IS BEYOND ME.... I FEEL THAT SOMEONE IS FEEDING THEM THAT INFO AND THEY ARE RUNNING WITH IT...

xnuke: Jester - thank you. For clarification, does the rate you expect us to see then fall ~Kuwait's rate, maybe within ~20%?
 
xnuke: luckyb - I was totally making up numbers and used something easy... I never heard 50% suggested - only used that to make a point. (Sorry if I just started a herd down a goat trail Jester!)

Jester: xnuke THAT WHAT WE ARE EXPECTING...

HenryGeorge: Justice Is the claim theat the IQD RV rate "went down" today due to outside presssure, spurious in your view?

Jester: HenryGeorge SAME ANSWER...
AS I HAVE SAID SEVERAL WEEKS RUNNING NOW... THERE IS NO CHANGE IN THE BANKS SCREENS OR FOREX.... WE GET A REPORT FROM CUBBY EACH DAY... AND IT HAS NOT CHANGED IN WEEKS... WHERE THEY ARE GETTING SUCH INFORMATION ON RATES LIKE THAT IS BEYOND ME.... I FEEL THAT SOMEONE IS FEEDING THEM THAT INFO AND THEY ARE RUNNING WITH IT..

ohboy!: Could we start from base rate that comes out say it were to be 10.00 would start from there sorry on cell
 
Jester: ohboy! THEY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON... IT WILL BE SET... YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT... IF YOU GET THERE AND YOU DON'T LIKE THE RATE.. WHICH I DOUBT.. THEN GET UP AND WALK OUT... BUT I DOUBT YOU WILL DO ANY BETTER ANYWHERE..

 [moonview] Jester ... so if the bonds are getting paid soon after Sept 5 Zap says RV to follow soon after... how can it happen this week then?

 [Jester] moonview I DO NOT THAT THAT PROHIBITS A RESET... I DID NOT READ IT THAT WAY...

[Jester] I TALKED WIHT REDWOLF TODAY ABOUT THE VALUATIONS OF THE COUNTRIES AT GREAT LENGTH TODAY... WE FEEL THERE MAY VERY WELL BE SOME SURPRISES... NO ONE REALLY KNOWS THE ACTUAL ASSET VALUATIONS OF COUNTRIES THAT ARE ALL ABOUT TO RESET.... SO SOME MAY GO WAY UP AND OTHERS FALL SOMEWHAT... WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THEY ARE VALUED TODAY THERE MAY BE SOME PRETTY BIGT DIFFERENCES IN THE ASSET BASES FROM WHAT WE SEE TODAY.... SO IT IS GOING TO BE A BIT OF A RIDE IN OUR OPINION...

[COdreamer] Jester So what does your gut tell you still needs to be done before we see the RV?

[Jester] COdreamer SAME THINGS I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG... SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS TO APPEASE THE ONES WANTING THEM... AND YOU SHOULD TOO.... THAT WILL ASSURE THE RETURN OF THE PROPER GOVERNMENT HERE.... THAT IS WHY THEY WANT THEM... TO KEEP THEM FROM GOING BACK THE WRONG DIRECTION....

[Jester] OK... TIME TO WIND DOWN.... THE MODS HAVE BEEN WORKING HARD... TRYING TO CAPTURE ME IS A CHORE... LOL

[Jester] THINGS ARE LOOKING VERY GOOD... WAS HOPING FOR BETTER NEWS ABOUT TONIGHT... LOOKS LIKE A REGOUP FOR TOMORROW... LET'S SEE HOW IT GOES... I WILL BE BACK TOMORROW WIHT AS MUCH INFO AS I CAN GET FOR YOU GUYS...

[Justice] Good night guys! Glad you were all here!

Jester: GOOD NIGHT FRIENDS... THANK YOU FOR COMING... GOD BLESS YOU ALL... AND GOD BLESS AMERICA...