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Monday, August 19, 2013

DINARMAVEN POST, 19 AUGUST

7:08 PM [dinarmaven] Quick update from after the call today. I had the pleasure of getting a question in for tony this aft on the call. After my time was up I got a text from a business associate that I respect a great deal on the opposite coast asking me if that was me on the call.

 (She recognized my voice) I said yes and then we talked on the phone and I learned for the first time that she was deep into dinar but has her own great contacts and one directly involved in DC.

 She already knew from her sources that this thing was going down and that they were expecting it anytime

She is not on the boards but does read recaps and listens to Tony's calls. 

The information provided was VERY specific and not related to what we hear on calls or on forums. Just wanted to let you know that there is very real non-circular intel out there that validates Tony's info. I'm very excited to have heard it, since we could talk freely. Just wanted everyone to know that this thing is about ready to pop and we are all going to be very very happy.

TK CHAT, 19 AUGUST

TERRYK Chat 7:57 PM EST 08/19/2013
[TERRYK] OK ALL BEEN REAL BUSY ALL DAY
[TERRYK] JUST STOPPING BY TO LET YOU KNOW
[TERRYK] HEARING RUMORS THAT WHEN THE BANKS CLOSE TODAY
[TERRYK] HAWAII THERE MAYBE SOME THINGS MOVING
[TERRYK] ALSO HEARING SOME REALLY NUTTY RATES TODAY
[TERRYK] LIKE 16 PLUS STREET RATE FOR THE DINAR
[MANGIABUONA2]    over 3 on dong
[TERRYK] AND LISTEN TO THIS CRAZY THING
[TERRYK] OVER 4
[TERRYK] 4.23
[TERRYK] IS WHAT I WAS TOLD
[TERRYK] AND THEY STOPPED SELLING THE DONG AS OF SATURDAY
[MANGIABUONA2] holy cow
[TERRYK] IN MANY LOCATIONS
[TERRYK] TRAVEL X STOPPED
[TERRYK] MANY WELLS FARGO STOPPED
[TERRYK] I THINK THE VDN PEEPS PUT THE WORD OUT NO MORE TRADING OR SELLING TO THE PUBLIC
[TERRYK] SO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT 
[TERRYK] I WILL BE BACK LATER TONIGHT
[TERRYK] OK
[TERRYK] GOD BLESS

HUB FROM MIG CHAT, 19 AUGUST

MIG:

[Sparkles] hub hows it going, you know anything?

 [hub] Sparkles nothing new,,the broker just said this morning to hold on.......

 [Sparkles] hub OK we are holding lol

[MsDiva] hub hold on for how long lol 

 [hub] MsDiva till its done,,,,he says he knows it a done deal,,,just doesnt know why not released.......

[MsDiva] hub i think thats the problem everyone is having…. why it hasnt been released?

 [hub] MsDiva i think your correct

[hybrid33] hub what did your currency broker text?

 [hub] hybrid33 a real short,,,,,,,just hold on........he has said this is a done puppy for about three weeks,,,doesnt know why has not been released

12THMAN POST, 19 AUGUST

12thman said: Please post this: I just wanted to come in this evening and share with you what I have received this evening. Spoke with my Aggie buddy and main HR about 10 min ago. 

They have been in contact with their UST and IMF contacts today. Neither contacts know each other by the way. Both stated that it was to be done and we should have already been going to the banks. 
  Both parties are frustrated that this process has not yet shown itself. Confirmation on the countries being processed is real as well. Apparently the system isn't moving as fast as the world would like.

 Both contacts state that today into tomorrow looks very good. The core group that's working on getting the system caught up have been working non stop to get this done. It was also mentioned that the rates are at the banks and both are high.

I know that the wait is probably killing most of you but try your best to hang in there. I for one have been using this time to seek The Lord for His strength and direction.

 It truly is the only way I can make it through the ups and downs. It's right there...we can honestly touch it with our finger tips...be patient and relax.

Before you know it, you will blessed with all kinds of resources and opps to serve with our Lord and Saviour. Praise the Father and seek His wisdom. He will strengthen you, guide you, and refresh your spirit. For God is Wonderful and Almighty. Praise The Lord in all that you do...

MORT POST FROM TNT, 19 AUGUST

08/19/13 [ TNT mort] 3:30 pm est my guy just told me now that obama has no say in this whole thing anymore because he has p"""" off everyone in this process and he said the 100 countries are run through right now already and more are being processed as we speak and he said canada & the usa have not been done yet but should be hopefully sometime today he said maybe after 6 pm today-countires are still being run through cix which took over forex and his traders called him today & told him they would be picking up to go to fort wayne indiana instead of reno for some reason-he would not say why-but he said everything should be all done shortly! Ok let the bashing begin-lol

TONY'S MONDAY CC NOTES, 19 AUGUST

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Tony - couple of things this morning, good, bad and ugly. I'm going to read some Q&A first with some comments and info to follow.

T - Good morning, guys. It's Monday morning on August 19 and we're ready to go.

T - what happened over the weekend? Let's do some housekeeping first. We here at TNT Dinar are absolutely NOT, NOT associated with any group whatsoever. We have nothing to do with any of them, do not advise any of them. Anyone who states anything to the contrary is outright lying.

T - our chat boards are not to be used to recruit or direct people

T - I think there is some misinformaiton or incomplete info being given out about these groups. When you give your name, zip code, how much IQD you have, etc. you're exposing yourself and putting out your personal info. When you call the 800#'s they are capturing your personal info. Do not expose yourself.
T - I don't need to put up disclaimer since I've been telling you all my opinions about certain groups. This applies to any of the calls you're making to 800#s.

T - updated info: over the weekend Okie put out a post about 98 countries RV'ing. I went to our own sources to check it out. I didn't see any of that so I called DC, etc. They confrmed the info, so there are some other people out there trying to tell you it didn't happen. They are people who don't have the available resources or the same caliber of resources.

T - the system has started and is running. I'm getting this from the system itself. It did happen and continues to happen right this minute. Everybody wants to see it and prove it on Forex. You're not going to see it until it goes "live". When you can see it the proof is when it goes live. They're not going to post anything on CNN when they are in the middle of doing it. That is irrational.

T - You've been in this long enough to know how this works. It usually shows up 2-3 days later. Don

....don't let this frustrated. This morning I expected to see it. I got calls from inside the country and outside the country. But I know it's still going on and this is where it is right now.

T - People in DC were excited, giddy, etc. thinking this is really it. Everybody has been called in: bankers, 4X, call centers, etc. and they've been given extended lunch break times before lunch because they're expecting it to be busy later on today.

T - the good news is we're going with the US version, not the world version. That means you'll get more $ to start with. If there's an argument between the US and the world (when, rate, etc.), there's also an internal argument. Regardless of what it is, the winner is YOU. You are the winner. The argument is about how much you're going to win and when. If they're fighting to get some things done it's now because of you.

T - our administration wants the higher rate and they want it even higher. They want to wipe out the deficit. He's arguing for something for the US. In the process of that happening there are some internal arguments. The USD is going down in value. Remember I said last year there would be a 2nd RV because the USD is decreasing and the IQD is rising?

T - 80-90% of the people will CE at one time and be done with it. At the last moment an agreement has been made and the system is running. When it gets to where it need to be we will see it, hopefully sometime today.

T - The pressure is on and we'll see it sooner rather than later. Nobody can prove it to you that is is or it isn't. You can be on either side. Everybody should live with your own choice and not try to influence others. We are adults and we can think for ourselves. There's a lot of negative people on the boards over the weekend. We see their sign-up dates and they're coming here just to make trouble.

T - let's go with a couple of questions real quick.

T - is the 1-2% tax is over and above? A - don't know yet.

Q - dong rate? A - this morning it was over $3 what they're seeing.

Q - How long can Iraq use 2 currencies? A - as long as they need.

Q - How long can Iraq use 2 currencies? A - as long as they need.

Q - are the great rates we're hearing about at the banks real? A - double-digts for the IQD and $3.20 for the VND. It's supposed to be up to $18.

Q - does O's meeting today have any relevance to the RV? A - since all the people he's meeting with are currency people, I'd say yes.

Q - start time for the 30 days? A - when the RV is announce.d

Q - do banking regs require us to CE where we reside? A - no but appts will be made based on the zip code they have for you.

Q - Mtn Goat controversy A - I personally do not know Mtn Goat. I have never met her. I do not share info with her. But she's coming out with in-depth info I have purposefully avoided. Whoever she is she is giving you details I'm leaving out. I like her posts. What she shares mirrors the info I'm getting. I don't care where she is as long as the info is accurate. If they can't disprove the info then they attack the person. Compare what you're hearing with what you're hearing from others.

T - either be involved in the process or wait for your email and don't engage.

T - the agreement has been met, the rates have been set and the system is running.

T - banks do not ask for your citizenship when you CE. As long as you're in the USA you can CE.

Q - don't believe the first 30 days is a private exchange only. A - absolutely ridiculous. Not going to happen. They can't exclude the public.

Q - with all the info can you call the RV today? A - no, I can call it but that won't make it. It is moving. Banks actually are seeing rates changing today.

Q - have you had any direct conversation with the leaders of the Super Group (G64)? A - I didn't do a group, in spite of several requests. I'm doing a small group with 30 friends. If I was going to do a group I would ask for a group rate and I would tell you what it is right up front. That way there's no guess work involved. I wouldn't need your name, email, etc. if I was doing. You would only have to call the 800# and CE. Any bank worth its salt would want you to tell everybody you could and you can't do that if you sign an NDA.

T - I'm not condeming the groups. But I would do it totally different. You would know everything up front. Until I see something as transparent as that I'm not interested. The group I'm doing will know all the numbers before they walk in. I'm not saying anymore about the groups. If it's not being done that way I will not have anything positive to say about them.

"LIVE" Q&A STARTING NOW......C = CALLER \ T = TONY

C - Rec'd an email that the RV is #1 priority of IMF. On Monday all older platforms still trading and will be shut down under Basil III which will cost the world economy trillions for week. No question.

C - I've heard that some are going in the banks and CE'ing. Is that true? T - not true. If that was happening I would know it and it wouldn't be hidden. I have enough contacts in the banking industry and I would know. I know individuals who have a billion IQD themselves. If this was happening anywhere I would know. It is not happening.

C - when will the time be to negotiate perks? T - if they want to restrict you from moving your money, you need to know this during your 20-min. appt. If you go in by yourself you can negotiate this anytime.

C - VND rate a live rate or place rate? T - don't know. It is changing daily and after everything was settled yesterday both rates went up since Friday. Today is our BIG WINDOW. It's running and a whole lot of people are expecting it today. The call center people, the bankers, etc. are looking for it any minute. Could be after O's meeting. They're saying all has been settled and they've agreed to get this thing started. It doesn't mean you should put in a reserve order. I'm giving you what's going on and what point we're at now.

C - encouraging people to support www.woundedmarinewarriors.com    because they have low overhead and more $ gets to the recipients.

C - what do you mean when you say "the system is running"? Does that mean it's calculating real-time rates? T - that's what I'm told. It is running and is calculating. Over the weekend they started with the lowest countries first building up to the larger ones. They have to put in the IQD last and then it goes live.

C - they reached a compromise rate for the IQD and it's over $10? T - yes.

C - do you know what the different tiers will be? A - the only thing I know tiers apply to are the groups. It doesn't matter how much you have if you're going in on your own. If you're in a group those rates have already been negotiated. Initially I know Chase's rate was based on how many years you've banked with them. That may have changed lately because I haven't heard anything updated.

T - If you're going in as an individual you can negotiate your own rate, regardless of how much you have. The negotiations start at the base rate.

C - I'm confused about the petro $. If they give us $10 per IQD wouldn't that make the price of oil go to $1K per barrel and the gov't would lose out? T - It takes Iraq $2 to get a barrel of oil. If they're selling it us at $27 we have a lot of room over 30 years. Our govt' is not losing anything. It's all digital anyway. They're going to tax the dollars and put it into our economy.

C - so all we're waiting on is authorization codes? T - yes, that's what the banks tell us. Yesterday everything was going, everybody was happy. IMF people showed up at the CBI. Bottom line someone was stopping it. But all of that was cleared up and they don't think they can stop it this time.

T - I got an email from someone this morning. He drove 1,000 miles to sit in a parking lot waiting to CE. That's what you don't want to do. It's not the right thing to do. Don't call the banks every hour. Believe me, there are enough people looking for it you will know when it happens.

[FLPatriot59] T - we have a text that will go out go to www.tntdinar.com and sign up for the text and you will get RV text alert.

C - should we be prepared to take a tax attorney with us if we're going with a group CE? T - if you're going with a group, let the leader of the group go in first and let him share them with you before you go in.

C - If I'm going out of town for a couple of weeks should I take my IQD with me or leave it? T - we've heard that TSA is supposed to be on the lookout post-RV, but no one has heard this.

NOTE: THERE ARE DIFFERENT SIZES & GROUPS, INCLUDING THE G64/STUDELY GROUP and SMALLER GROUPS.

C - you told us you would tell us the floor and ceiling rate for the VND. T - that over $3 for VND is over the ceiling I had before. It has been consistent for the past 2-3 weeks. Today it's $3.10.

C - clarifying the question about the oil credits.

C - you said the call centers were activated then sent home. It's a disconnect for me who's calling them in and then sending them home. Who keeps telling them it's ready and then it doesn't happen? Why don't they have access to good info? T - they do have access but somebody above them is calling the shots. There is a regional VP or manager directing them, based on what they're told. Somebody from the UST is saying "go ahead and call your people in" and they assume the button will be pushed after their meeting. But at the last minute something happens.

T - there are people in DC running the country who are mad right now and calling the UST "geeks" for messing up the system. Like last week it was WF who was the scape goat. This week it's the UST. Everybody gets their turn - that's the real world.

C - I have a Forex account (paid) and watching the boards last night there seemed to be a lot of activity going on. It seemed to be manipulated, aligning to fall in place. How it is going to drop in and click? T - whether you see it or not, the lower ones are done first and now the bigger ones with the IQD last.

C - You mentioned a meeting today with O. Might they throw the switch after that meeting? Is that a pivot point for us? T - right now they're meeting heads of SEC, Trading Commodities, Consumer Bureau, Fed, FDIC, etc. and it sounds like they're trying to line up everything before it goes live.

C - You and Mtn Goat said that certain countries had appeared and more have been added. T - no one has give me a list of the 130 countries. But I'm being told it's running to completion.

C - If the rate has been agreed upon they're not going to backtrack are they? T - It is DONE for the 4th time and they let the US go with their rate. The people have let us know. Not saying it's more visible but peeps are letting us know about it this time because they're more frustrated.

C - sounds like the meeting O is having right now is to get people ready. Would they delay this more? T - sounds like our economy is about the change and they're asking "are we ready?

C - My VND doesn't have to be exchanged at the same time as the IQD, right? T - it does not but how fast the rate is going the change I can't tell you.

C - Couldn't the Canadians come across the border with their IQD, open an account at a US bank, put it in a safe deposit and once it exchanges go back, CE and have it wired back home? T - yes, that's a great idea.

C - What is Abbot Downing? T - Google them. They are with WF and work with those having $50M USD and higher.

C - what kind of perks will be offered? Will there be a list? T - you can call a private banker now and shop around for info. Ask them to send you a package. Look up VirtuePhone, a concierge service, that will put you in touch with all the services you need. They more the banks will be involved in your life, the more they will.

C - can you comment on using the Ma&Pa banks? Same rates? T - they are supposed to give you the WF rates, or whomever contracted them.

C - I spoke with Chase on Friday (Private Banker Division), and gave the same "don't know anything about the IQD" game. Are the banks going to play that game post-RV? Will they try to low-ball us? T - all the banks will start with the base rates, which may be double digits. I will tell you the rate I get at my bank.

C - do you still feel good about Chase, WF, etc.? T - yes, I feel good about WF, BoA, Chase, etc. I trust everybody until they give me a reason not to. I accept everybody until you give me a reason not to.

T - I don't think one bank won't do what another bank won't do. Some like int'l investments, IPOs, etc. Choose the bank that likes what you want to do.

C - Can it be still stopped at this point? T - yes, it can be stopped until 2 mins after it happens. But people honestly feel like it's going thru this time. They've never gotten this many countries done before.

C - where are the 97 countries that RV'd showing? T - it's not public and not where any of us can see it. Our banking and gov't people who are involved in the process can see it on their screens.

C - I'm confused about the rates. You're saying 3.44 and then $10? T - 3.44 is the base rate in Iraq and is the rate on their Q-Cards. The agreement was made and it's supposed to come out in double digits.

T - the only thing I can't share is what that double-digit rate is (I'm not supposed to know and you wouldn't believe me if I told you). They post rates and they're close - could be place rates off by .05 or $1. I do know there were 8 starting rates and they chose one of those.

T - everything is still going. It's good news. They are prepared waiting for this to go. I don't know what the timeframe is. But if they only got 30 countries done between yesterday and today they still have a ways to go. We're just waiting for it to go. Enjoy your day. If/when I get info I'll do a Blast. END OF CALL.

STAGE2OMEGA EMAIL, 19 AUGUST

From Stage2Omega email:

Prepartion to Join WTO; Iraq seeks to promote economic & trade relations with different countries to achieve economic integrationPosted: August 19, 2013 in Iraqi Dinar/Politics
Tags: Arab people, Baghdad, Developed country, Economic integration, Economy of Iraq, Iraq,World Trade Organization, WTOThe signing of 80 of the Convention and 55 of the Commission for the development of economic relations

08/19/2013 12:00 AM

Taan: activating the work of the committees to achieve economic integration with the countries

Iraq seeks to promote economic and trade relations with different countries to achieve economic integration, including the achievement of mutual benefit and development of the economic reality and promotion through the signing of 80 agreement with the Arab and foreign countries are different as well the formation of 55 jointcommittee with various countries of the world.

In this context, he said, an economist in the Ministry of Finance Hilal Taan: The stages of economic and trade relations between Iraq and any other country begins phase partnership then progress to reach the stage conventions and then reach the degree of economic integration. projects partnership Iraq signed 80 agreement with several countries on the economic aspect include items of different economic funding projects in the productive sectors of the diverse and provide services including encourages the protection of investment between the two sides established to set up projects important partnership to contribute to the advancement of economic reality, as well as the 55 joint committee with various countries of the world. As announced by the Department of Foreign Economic Relations and Trade Ministry.

said Taan told (morning) that economic integration between any two countries is intended to give facilities on the entry of goods and the free movement of money in addition to the facilities of customs and tax exemptions on goods is mutually beneficial to both countries.

ministerial committees, and pointed out that the economic commissions shared between Iraq and the countries that have been signed with them on economic agreements have been formed from the various ministries and government departments to organize the work of trade exchange and activating the work of customs and pricing tariff, adding that some of these agreements now entered into force with the neighboring countries like Iran, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia Turkey and other countries brotherly and friendly, pointing out that most of the goods that enter the country are under these agreements.

amendment agreements and stressed Taan need to develop economic relations with new countries because Iraq is still a country a consumer and does not issue is oil, noting that there are amendments thereto, the conventions or is canceled or add new items to enhance cooperation whenever the need arises and to serve Iraq and the other side to achieve economic integration. interests of the interface to that stressed academic economic d. Majid Baidhani importance of activating the work of the committees Joint Economic between Iraq and other countries being hurt in the direction of the development of reality economy of the country through the exchange of experiences and interests interfaces.

said Baidhani told (morning) that the work of the joint committees is to give insight into the reality of the local economy and investment opportunities in the agricultural and industrial sectors and other productivity.

Preparations to join for W.TO

He noted that the work of these committees now almost stalled because of studies now taking place between the circles economic Iraqi government level to the issue of Iraq’s accession to the World Trade Organization. and is Iraq’s accession organizations and blocs financial and economic of the key things that are in favor of the economy through the effects of direct and indirect most important to diversify the state’s resources and not rely on oil unite pole in the country’s economy.

Iraq has membership in organizations of different economic Calayrbosaa, UNCTAD and the Union of Arab Banks as well as its presence as an observer member of the WTO and other organizations. drew academic economic need to diversify the economy of Iraq and not to rely on oil pole unite to finance the general budget because this is the most prominent terms of accession to WTO because oil products are not covered interchangeably trade between the members of the organization. said Baidhani need to provide Iraq something of the member states of the WTO, it is not reasonable that does not offer production or product is characterized by all other countries, indicating that it is this section must enter Iraq to This organization because of the reform of its economy battered by the misguided policies that lasted for three decades. follow-up agreements and the Department of Foreign Economic Relations and Trade Ministry to follow up the most important agreements and joint committees and activate the agreements concluded earlier with the countries of the world and to conclude new agreements with countries that are no Iraq Agreement with it. , the ministry said on its website that the agreements signed by Iraq of 80 agreement with the Arab and foreign countries are different, and she also that the department follows the 55 joint committee with various countries of the world. development of the economy and was a member of the Committee on the economy and investment MP Amer winner has stressed the importance of activating economic agreements concluded with the developed countries, which is still disabled because the economic benefit a great country.

said in a press statement: that Iraq was struck in the recent series of economic agreements with various countries the world, especially developed in the fields of industry and agriculture, but it is still disabled. adding that activate these agreements will pour the interests of the two sides of the business processes, stressing that Iraq desperately need tohand the exchange of experiences with the developed countries to develop their economy. increased winner has struck Iraq a range of economic agreements with European countries and Asian and Arab countries, but it still is disabled by the government, likely it legislation may need to be legal or perhaps collide with other including legal بمعوقات or routine.

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DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 19 AUGUST

8-19-2013  Intel Guru TD   4) HE COMPLETELY REJECTED the rumor of an IN COUNTRY RV having taken place ANYTIME in the past couple weeks . He further stated that IF & WHEN this occurs it will be basically simultaneously in country and worldwide. 5) I asked if Iraq was THE PLAYER holding off the imminent global reset of 190 + countries to which he replied that Iraq's matters are their own, that their programs and policies are their own to dictate as a sovereign nation.He stated hesitancy believing that ANY NATION who has economic developmental programs to progress for their OWN benefit would delay their's due to any other country not being prepared to execute at this time.   [post 4 of 4]

8-19-2013  Intel Guru TD   3) I asked about the rumor of the IMF stepping in and executing currency reform to which he replied that it's the IMF, their team of attorney's consulting with Iraqi lawmakers, accountants and attorney's that have requested all the T's crossed and I's dotted before moving forward. He stated these concerns were uncovered during EL EID weekend as the paperwork was checked off prior to execution.   [post 3 of 4....stay tuned]

8-19-2013  Intel Guru TD    2) Political posturing by various factions and running of the mouth is back and therefore NOT helping solidarity in moving various political & economic programs forward. Therefore as reported yesterday and confirmed again today, the currency reform program needs additional law revisions and other substantive laws enacted for progress to start up again. CONFIRMED again that WE ARE STUCK IN NEUTRAL until parliament reconvenes.   [post 2 of 4....stay tuned]

8-19-2013  Intel Guru TD   I was able to confirm and debunk various agenda items floating around related to our investment : 1) Contact confirms that Iraq has requested security assistance from the US in iraq due to still continued violence occurring in country BUT that rumors of the US stepping in and overthrowing Maliki is pure ridiculous gossip. Maliki I'm told is still going to finish his second term and leave and wants to go out on a high note (hero), so himself sabotaging his legacy makes no sense.   [post 1 of 4....stay tuned]

8-19-2013  Intel Guru Loechin  [new guru]  Now that the reset is in full swing everything has to be ready for us which is being done as we speak. As I was told tonight [Sunday] make certain I am ready for what will be mine this week...The word delay is a word you will never use again!!!  I will not share the rates... however let's say double for your trouble...Guys its all about I can say and not get in trouble. Things green things are being moved into place...The RV has happened...Ok I am talking about in the USA, not Iraq...It's here already...Stop looking in the obvious places for rates guys. The rates have been out and showing for seven weeks with exchanges going on in many of your cities and you didn't see it or know it.

8-19-2013  Intel Guru Jester   THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN...IMAGINE THE CONFUSION...WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT THEY WILL ALL RESET INTO THE NEW SYSTEM... NOW...THEY COULD BE ADJUSTING THE NUMBERS... AND I THINK THEY MAY BE TALKING ABOUT THAT...BUT THEY NEED TO GET THE DETAILS RIGHT...IT IS NOT A PARTIAL RV OF THE SYSTEM...THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT IS CURRENTLY RUNNING IN GHOST OVER THE EXISTING SYSTEM AND SCHEDULED TO COME OUT TONIGHT/TOMORROW IN THE NEW FORM.  [post 2 of 2]

8-19-2013  Intel Guru Jester  [Have 97 currencies revalued as so many are stating today while the remainder are in a state of being revalued?]    HOW CAN ANYONE KNOW THEY REVALUED WHEN THE SYSTEM IS DOWN AND HOW COULD YOU MAKE THAT WORK BETWEEN TWO SYSTEMS...YOU HAVE PART OF THE EXISTING SYSTEM RUNNING WITH PART OF THE NEW SYSTEM?...  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

8-19-2013  Newshound Guru Millionday     i read a report that they are removing the three zeros but that is not all -- they are raising the value to 3+ ....loved that since it was from a member of the economic committee.   it said the value of the pricing for the country will raise so they will have better cost of living at first and then be able to grow as a result  very good plan imo.

LOECHIN POST, 19 AUGUST

8-19-2013  Intel Guru Loechin  [new guru]  Now that the reset is in full swing everything has to be ready for us which is being done as we speak. As I was told tonight [Sunday] make certain I am ready for what will be mine this week...

The word delay is a word you will never use again!!!  I will not share the rates... however let's say double for your trouble...Guys its all about I can say and not get in trouble. Things green things are being moved into place...The RV has happened...

Ok I am talking about in the USA, not Iraq...It's here already...Stop looking in the obvious places for rates guys. The rates have been out and showing for seven weeks with exchanges going on in many of your cities and you didn't see it or know it.
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08/19/13 8:34 AM.. ET.. loechin] lurker333 maybe later Banks are getting cash ready for the 10 k we can take...I was not actually at an exchange table, it was a metaphore...

 however I am waiting for my WF Bank to call most likely tomorrow am then I might be....

loechin] Stop looking in the obvious places for rates guys. The rates have been out and showing for seven weeks with exchanges going on in many of your cities and you didn't see it or know it... I will not share the rates... however let's say double for your trouble...

loechin] g8way2k That;s not my double...

KarenC] loechin Good Morning to you. Would you have a good idea when we MAY see this come out in the public places? Thank you....

loechin] KarenC You will be rich before that happens...

JESTER CHAT, 19 AUGUST

[Jester] HELLO FELLOW AMERICANS!!!!... HOW IS EVERYONE TONIGHT?

[cashinqueen] Jester please tell us your take on ZAP /////// :?

[Jester] cashinqueen LONG POST.... ALL GOOD... I LIKE ZAP... MY FAVORITE LINE IN THE POST... "OH BOY. MUCH TALK OUT THERE. AND EVEN THE GRAND DISINFORMATION GUYS HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO MIX A GREATER AMOUNT OF TRUTH INTO THEIR RANTS"

[jasa1] Jester did you see the CNBC video on the dollar losing value and the take on gold? He said it could be related to hoarding gold or a currency or even the trouble in the ME?

[Jester] jasa1 I DID NOT... BUT THT SOUNDS PLAUSIBLE... AND I AM AWARE THAT CERTAIN COUNTRIES WENT ON A BUYING SPREE... NOT SURE WHAT THE ME WOULD HAVE TO DO WITH IT THOUGH...

[Pepe Lepeau] Jester....your take on "mtn,goats post"
[Jester] Pepe Lepeau ONLY ISSUE I HAVE WITH THAT POST IS SYMANTICS... THEY CANNOT RV PART OF THE CURRENCIES AT A TIME... THEY WILL ALL BE DONE AT ONCE... YOU CAN HOWEVER ADJUST THE RATES... AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT THEY MEAN... SO SYMANTICS...

[PMW1973] Jester is the third man still scheduled?

[Jester] PMW1973 THE BUMMER OF THE DAY THAT ONE... HEARD HE WENT EARLIER... THEN GOT A CALL LATER NOT THE CASE... SO... MAYBE A LITTLE SLIGHT OF HAND IT UNDERWAY.. WE SHALL SEE...

[patsiayn] Jester, I got the impression from ZAP post that the bank families bought the CIX? Your take on that. How does/does not that affect the reset/rv?

 [Jester] patsiayn AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE... THE FOREX SYSTEM IS NOT CHANGING FROM WHAT I CAN GATHER FROM ALL OUR SOURCES... THEY MAY WANT TO CALL IT THE CIX... MAYBE THEY WILL CHANGE THE NAME... WHO KNOWS... THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT IS CURRENTLY RUNNING IN GHOST OVER THE EXISTING SYSTEM AND SCHEDULED TO COME OUT TONIGHT/TOMORROW IN THE NEW FORM.... I DOUBT ANYONE NOTICES THE DIFFERENCE UNTIL ALL THE NEW SYMBOLS SHOW UP... AGAIN... SYMANTICS....

[patsiayn] So that is a misunderstanding on my part of what he was saying. Thanks for clearing that up.

[HenryGeorge] Jester Did TPTB pick the ~100 currencies that wouldn't change in value much to revalue first to verify all is working well and prevent "double-dipping" in case it did and they had to back-track?

[Nana] Jester Have 97 currencies revalued as so many are stating today while the remainder are in a state of being revalued?

[Jester] OK... SEVERAL OF YOU ARE REASKING A QUESTION ALREADY ANSWERED... ABOUT THE 100 CURRENCIES THAT HAVE REVALUED... FIRST OF ALL... HOW CAN ANYONE KNOW THEY REVALUED WHEN THE SYSTEM IS DOWN... AND HOW COULD YOU MAKE THAT WORK BETWEEN TWO SYSTEMS.... YOU HAVE PART OF THE EXISITING SYSTEM RUNNING WITH PART OF THE NEW SYSTEM?... THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.... IMAGINE THE CONFUSION.... WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT THEY WILL ALL RESET INTO THE NEW SYSTEM... NOW WITH THAT SAID... THEY COULD BE ADJUSTING THE NUMBERS... AND I THINK THEY MAY BE TALKING ABOUT THAT.... BUT THEY NEED TO GET THE DETAILS RIGHT... IT IS NOT A PARTIAL RV OF THE SYSTEM...

[tampa---dd] Jester .. Zaps first line with respect to the RV is that the Chinese may NOT want it to happen .. does that make sense at all knowing all we know now?

[Jester] tampa---dd I THINK YOU MAY HAVE READ THAT WRONG... HE SAID... IN RESPECT OF THE DINAR RV…THERE IS TALK THAT CHINA DOES NOT WANT IT TO HAPPEN. WHY WOULDN’T THEY? ... I THINK HE MEANS THAT IS BS... THE TALKERS ARE FULL OF IT THESE DAYS...

[Shivohm] Jester zap says - "they bought a container load in preparation of buying iraq oil on the cheap". If that is the case why do the Chinese need our Dinars through the wf deal?

[Jester] Shivohm WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT DEAL? THE FUNDS ARE SET ASIDE IN THE PLATFORM FOR THAT... SO... BOUGHT IN ANTICIPATION OF DELIVERY... MIGHT GIVE YOU FOOD FOR THOUGHT ABOUT WHY THEY WOULD THEN BE TICKED ABOUT THOSE THAT ARE MESSING WITH THEIR DEAL THAT IS ALREADY SET UP..... HMMMM?

[gatorstomp] Jester Would it be safe to read into your comment to patsyayn: THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT IS CURRENTLY RUNNING IN GHOST OVER THE EXISTING SYSTEM AND SCHEDULED TO COME OUT TONIGHT/TOMORROW IN THE NEW FORM.... When the new form with new symbols shows, does that mean that we have what we have been waiting for?

[Jester] gatorstomp JUST TELLING YOU WHAT I HAVE HEARD FROM SOME GOOD SOURCES... THE REALITY REMAINS TO BE SEEN... WE HOPE THAT IS THE CASE...

[LLTREPUBLIC] Jester, could you ease tell litestck and I, about the ZIMBABWE dollar Sir?

[Jester] LLTREPUBLIC VERY SPECULATIVE INVESTMENT IN MY OPINION... NO ONE KNOWS HOW THAT ONE WILL GO... DON'T YOU HAVE ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH THE ONE YOU ARE IN?

[jam777] Jester ... you said the two are on high alert and the 3rd is scheduled to fly .... soon ???

 [Jester] jam777 ALREADY ANSWERED... GOT CONFLICITNG REPORTS NOW... WE WAIT FOR MORE INFORMATION... OR DISINFORMATION AS THE CASE ME BE WITH THAT ONE...

[preston004] Jester Do we still need a JL sighting prior to rv?

[Jester] preston004 RUMORS ARE THAT SOMETHING MAY HAPPEN AT 8PST TONIGHT... WHICH IS IN ABOUT 13 MINUTES... GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WATCHING...

[dinardude] Jester Any indications today that we're still on track & looking good from your point of veiw

[Jester] dinardude ALL INDICATIONS TODAY ARE THAT WE ARE ON TRACK AND STILL LOOKING GOOD...

[Iank1978] Jester what channels are you looking at for JL

 [Jester] Iank1978 IF I KNEW THAT I WOULD JUST TELL YOU... BUT I HEARD THAT FROM SEVERAL PLACES SO I DID NOT DISCOUNT IT...

[luckyb] sektor i just want to know if it has truly been released and we are on red elert ?

[sektor] lucky alot of people have been saying we are on red alert

 [Jagpro] Jester with all that is going to happen what is going to happen to the banking "Cabal" Rothchilds hand in the global currency system

[Jester] Jagpro IN REALITY? THEY WILL REGROUP AND TRY IT AGAIN... THIS IS JUST A SETBACK FOR THEM... IT WILL BE UP TO US TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL...

[Nana] Jester Do you believe that most of the members of Congress have IQD? If so, they must be going crazy to get their hands on their funds. Any comment?

[Jester] Nana THEY SKR'D A LONG TIME AGO.... BUT YES... THEY ARE ANXIOUS TO GET THEIR HANDS ON IT... I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE STIPULATIONS ON THAT THOUGH... THEY MUST SIGN ON TO ACT RIGHT...

[Freedom12] Jester In relation to that question about the cabal rothchilds - will the basell (sp) III help to keep them in check at all?

[Jester] Freedom12 THE NEW SYSTEM WILL MAKE IT HARDER FOR THEM... THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE YOUR MONEY IN TRADES... SO YES... IT WILL HELP TO KEEP THAT DOWN.... THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF IT...

[gatorstomp] Jester Sept 1 is two weeks away, seems a LOT has to happen in those two weeks to prepare the people for the Republic. Fed will be without a head and has to be explained, etc...

[Jester] gatorstomp GOOD THINKING... WE ARE WONDERING THE SAME THING... CHINA HAS ANNOUNCED THEIR INTENTION TO GO TO ASSET BACKED CURRENCY... WE NEED THAT ANNOUNCEMENT TOO...

 [socalcutie] Jester NO LEW on any channel out west

[Jester] socalcutie WE ARE WATCHING TOO... IT IS WHAT WAS REPORTED TO BE SCHEDULED... IF NOT TONIGHT THEN TOMORROW... I WAS HOPING FOR TONIGHT THOUGH...

[socalcutie] Jester i have been watching and waiting. I suspect the announcement can come after we get emails since we can't probably make an appoint until Tues

[Jester] socalcutie THE ANNOUCEMENT IS FOR THE PEOPLE TO KNOW THINGS ARE UNDERWAY... NOT NECESSARILY FOR US... THE EMAIL IS A DIFFERENT STORY ALTOGETHER...

[alin] Jester, IMHO, after the RV, I think everyone should lay low and not do anything stupid to attract attention to themselves

[Jester] alin THAT IS VERY VERY VERY GOOD ADVICE MY FRIEND....

[alin] sektor, as we all know, sharks all over. If the low info voter finds out what really happened, they might target the new millionaires to get what's "rightfully theirs"

[socalcutie] alin Jester honestly from now on we should all be inconspicuous

[Jester] socalcutie WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO START PRACTICING FROM THE GET GO....

[TRudinarfreedom] Jester can we have our RV first followed by JL or JL have to come first ???

[Jester] TRudinarfreedom WE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT CHINA AND THE OITHER INVESTORS WOULD WANT TO SEE WE ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK PREVIOUS TO LETTING US HAVE THE GOODIES... SO WE HAVE LONG THOUGHT THEY WOULD NEED TO BE FIRST...

[ace] Jester do you feel we are as close as we have ever been to getting are blessing?

[Jester] ace I FEEL WE ARE IN A VERY GOOD TIMING RIGHT NOW... THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE LINING UP WITH WHAT I AM HEARING TO A CERTAIN EXTENT... SMALL DETAILS ND SYMANTICS VARY BUT FOR THE MOST PART EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE...

[moonview] Jester ...Your take on buying things? Im sure people want houses and cars... Is that not laying low? Or is it just saying only buy 1?

[Jester] moonview PEOPLE BUY HOUSES AND CARS ALL THE TIME.... IF YOU BUY EVERY HOUSE IN THE CUL-DE-SAC AND PUT 15 CARS IN THE DRIVEWAY THAT MAY BE A LITTLE OBVIOUS... HAHAHA...

[Jester] WELL I USED TO HAVE 6 CARS... DON'T ASK... I AM SINGLE AND NO KIDS SO IT WAS ACCEPTABLE... BUT HEY... I WAS WORKING SO NO BIGGIE.... YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT MAKIGN A SPECTACLE OF YOURSELF THOUGH... JUST BE CAREFUL... DON'T BRAG OR FLAUNT IT... JUST BE COOL....

[Flying Eagle] Oh Darn....and I just ordered the crown and castle....

[Shivohm] Jester Per ZAP today "THERE ARE ABOUT 0.3 GRAMS OF GOLD BACKING EACH DINAR". That alone would put the Dinar value at about $14 - not icnluding other Assts! Seems like agood justifiation for a two-digit rate!

[Jester] Shivohm NICEEEEEE.... YOU CALCULTED IT.... HA! SO DID I!...

[FrenchTexan2] Jester Sorry if this has been asked, however. At the ce will WF have people in place who will know how to deal with those of us that are sovereign?

[Jester] FrenchTexan2 I THINK YOU WILL BE JUST FINE... THEY ARE A BANK NOT THE GOVERNMENT... BIG DIFFERENCE...

[socalcutie] Jester there was mention not to wire over 500K, i really don't see a reason not to wire funds for a home purchase. Houses cost a lot out west guys. But all should be ok with the new system correct? and dinarians aren't going to get a loan, they will pay cash.

[Jester] socalcutie OH GOOD GRIEF... WHO THINKS THAT CRAP UP... I ONCE WIRED OVER $900,000 FOR A REAL ESTATE DEAL AND THEY NEVER BLINKED AN EYE...

[Grunt0311] Jester WIRES = CASH, BANKS AND SELLERS LIKE WIRES.

[Jester] socalcutie THEY COULD CARE LESS WHAT YOU ARE DOING AS LONG AS THERE ARE FUNDS IN YOUR ACCOUNT....

[Jester] Grunt0311 BOY ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH...

[firenice] Jester why would Okie and Tony confirm that 100 countries revalued yesterday if that never happened? Where is their info coming from?

[Jester] firenice I ADDRESSED THAT EARLIER... I BELIEVE IT IS SYMANTICS AND THE DEFINITION THEY ARE USING... ACCORDING TO THE FOREX GUYS YOU CANNOT HAVE BOTH SYSTEMS PARTIALLY RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME... AND SINCE ONE IS CURRENT AND ONE IS THE ASSET BACKED SYSTEM... THAT CANNOT HAPPEN... THEY ARE PROBBLY TALKING NUMBERS AND ADJUSTMENTS ONLY.... NOT REALITY OF CURRENCY IN THE SYSTEM...

[Jester] OF ONE OF THE SYSTEMS... OR BOTH OF THE SYSTEMS... OR EITHER OF THE SYSTEMS... SEE WHAT I MEAN?

[greek1212] Jester u said new system supposed to start Tom

[Jester] greek1212 THAT WAS WHEN WE WERE TOLD IT WAS THE EARLIEST IT COULD HAPPEN... YOU GUYS HAVE A TENDENCY TO TWIST THE WORDS TO MEAN WNAT YOU ARE WANTING...

[greek1212] Jester I did not mean to twist words I apologize

 [Jester] greek1212 NO WORRIES... YOU RE NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT REMEMBERED IT THAT WAY...

[Jester] FOLKS.... KEEP ONE THING IN MIND... THERE ARE LOTS OF PROFESSIONALS OUT THERE THAT WOULD BE A WHOLE LOT BETTER FOR FINANCIAL ADVICE THAN GETTING YOUR INFORMATION ON A DINAR... OR REPUBLIC FOR THAT MATTER... CHAT ROOM... DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND FIND SOMEONE THAT KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING IN THIS REGARD AND QUIT GOING WITH EVERYTHING YOU HEAR ON THESE TYPES OF SITES... USE COMMON SENSE FOR A LOT OF IT... BUT GET SOME PROFESSIONAL HELP WITH FINANCIAL DETAILS...

[tdooly] Jester If the 100 have NOT RV'd, JL has not spoken, and no other speeches -- what is everybody soooo excited about? Just seems like a normal Sunday nigh when ALL are looking forward to next week. What am I missing?

[Jester] tdooly LOTS OF THINGS ARE LINED UP TONIGHT... AND YOU HAVE TO SEE IN THE OVERALL SCHEME OF THINGS WE RE DEFINITELY GETTING CLOSER ALL THE TIME... NIGHT IS STILL YOUNG... YOU NEVER KNOW...

[Shivohm] Someone asked me how I calculated the Dinar value based on the 0.3 grams of Gold mentioned by Zap. This site provides today's Gold price per gram. For example, today's rate on this site is $48.70 per gram. Multiplying 0.3 by $48.7 gives you $14.61! The site is    http://www.goldpriceoz.com/gold-price-per-gram/

[Jester] AND BY THE WAY... NOTICE THE COOL NEW JESTER'S PLACE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF RECAPS NOW... IT IS A LINK TO THE FORUM SO PEOPLE CAN GET THE FULL VERSION OF THE POSTS HERE.

[benedirla] Jester yes love it!

[Jester] SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THE NICE NOTE THEY PUT IN FRONT OF THE POST THIS MORNING... ME AND RECAPS ARE COOL... THEY ARE A DINAR SITE... BUT THEY WERE SUPER COOLD TO ADD THE LINK FOR US...

moneydr: Jester anothet intel provider was just saying he was expecting the CL anmouncement this evening ... 1 a.m. PST. Have you heard anything about that?

[moneydr] Jester do you think CL will give announcement tonight?

[musiccitylady] possibly she is in another country and it will be morning there such as 9 or 10

[my4sons] moneydr, what better time to give "public notice" then when we are all "asleep"!!!!!am and maybe only 1am in US?

[moneydr]my4sons... Absolutely. She'll be in Paris and in a different time zone. Was curious if Jester had any thoughts on it

[Jester] I SUPPOSE IT IS POSSIBLE... KIND OF HARD TO BELIEVE THEY WILL TRY TO SNEAK IT IN LIKE THAT BUT IT COULD BE I SUPPOSE...

[sektor] OK ladies and gents it's just about that time on behalf of all the mods and jester I would like to thank you for your cooperation this evening you guys did an excellent job keeping the room at a decent pace. Please remember to collect your belongings as you exit unless you don't want them LOL.

[Flying Eagle] Just remember - when you wake up rich - don't spend it all the first day!!!

 [Jester] OK... ANOTHER GOOD NIGHT... GOOD QUESTIONS... THANKS FOR COMING ALL YOU PATRIOTS.... IT IS FUN TO HANG OUT WITH LIKE MINDED PEEPS... HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT NIGHT AND A BETTER TOMORROW! SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT!

 [peachesten] Jester if there is huge news outside of your chat hours should we look at fb

[Jester] SURE THAT WOULD BE THE PLACE I WOULD PUT ANYTHING EARTH SHATTERING...

[Jester] TAKE CARE YOU ALL... GOD BLESS AMERICA... AND GOD BLESS YOU...