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Thursday, August 15, 2013

EXOGEN MORE UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

PER CONVERSATION EVERYTHING IS FINISHED & WE WAIT FOR THE RELEASE OF THE RATE
BY THE PTB. THERE IS NO MORE INTEL!!!!!!!
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Stage2Omega:

DIRECT INTEL 12: 56 PM EST TODAY 

Exogen Blog post 8-15: exogen direct intel: 

PER CONVERSATION: FINAL CIX ALGORITHMS ARE NOW COMPLETED

12:56 pm est today "just received a call from contact in dc saying all was completed at 2:20. Verifying now. I hope they are RIGHT....................

UPDATE you all SHORTLY... 

Posted by exogen on August 15, 2013 at 5:29pm per conversation everything is finished & we wait for the release of the rate by the ptb. 

There is no more INTEL!!!!!!

EAGLE1 UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

• Eagle1 has further information about what he reported on regarding the system test and the personal bankers calling in people to exchange – E1 has learned it was not only high ranking bank officials who saw this, it hit all the front screens so that all the tellers, anyone could see, and some people actually were exchanged at $3.44 until the CIX realized what happened and pulled it back, and instructed the banks to freeze those funds until the rate appears on the ForEx 

• Frank asked Eagle1 his opinion of the LD’s, Qi cards activation etc will all be done by September? Eagle1’s opinion is yes

• Eagle1 has heard that the IMF/CIX is looking to release the rate to the ForEx in the next 24 – 72 hours

• Eagle1’s IMF sources have also said there is already a prepared statement (video) done by Christine Legard speaking about the global currency reset, and that we will see the rates come out immediately following the release of her statement; per the sources, the release of her statement could happen anytime between now and Saturday

• The VND has been on a program rate for almost the past 50 years (instituted in 1963 or 1964), however the Basel III protocol will change that; VND has much oil and gold asset, so E1 is hearing a $0.47 rate, but he is also hearing numbers much higher; the opinion is that $0.47 is a good base rate


(This was posted in the TNT chatroom at 3:30 est 8-15-13, I'm told it was from the conf. call last night.)

OKIEOILMAN UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

[..OKIEOILMAN] REMEMBER MY LAST POST OF A HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO?--LETS ALL READ IT AGAIN AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY RELEVANCE TO WHAT ACTUALLY WILL OCCUR.

ALSO SOME OF YOU OLD TIMERS FROM MANY YEARS AGO REMEMBER ME STATING WHAT THE BANKS HAD INFORMED ME ABOUT THE RATE?--LET'S SEE WHAT OCCURS--TIME IS ON OUR SIDE NOW.

THINK--THINK--AND REMEMBER---HISTORY WILL BE EXHONERATED. NUFF SAID----

[..OKIEOILMAN] PART OF THE INFORMATION I FURNISHED YEARS AGO WILL FINALLY BE BROUGHT TO LIGHT SHORTLY. CHECK IT OUT FOR YOURSELF AND THEN DECIDE WHO WAS TRUTHFUL OR WHO MAY HAVE BEEN MIS-INFORMED.

I FIRMLY STAND BY PREVIOUS POSTS WITH THE EXCLUSION OF THE INCORRECT TIMING FURNISHED. 
I KNOW OF NO ONE WHO'S PROJECTION OF COMPLETION HAS BEEN CORRECT TO THIS POINT.

I WENT BACK MANY YEARS TO CHECK MY POST'S FOR ACCURACY AND I WOULD STATE THE SAME THING TODAY I DID YEARS AGO RELEVANT TO INFORMATION I FURNISHED.

[..OKIEOILMAN] THE REASON YEARS AGO I RECEIVED SO MUCH FLAK IS BECAUSE I TOLD PEOPLE SEVERAL DAYS AHEAD OF TIME WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

WHEN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN AT THAT EXACT MOMENT THEY THOUGHT I WAS DELUSIONAL BUT WHEN THE INTEL PROVED ITSELF A FEW DAYS LATER THOSE WHO CHASTIZED ME DIDN'T EVEN HAVE THE COURTEOUSY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WHAT WAS FURNISHED AHEAD OF TIME WAS FACTUAL..

[..OKIEOILMAN] YEP--I WAS AT ONE TIME CALLED EARLY OKIE--BECAUSE OF MY INFORMATION BECOMING PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE AHEAD OF ACTUAL OCCURENCE

lobster] OKIEOILMAN: Would you say that you and Tony are on the same track?

[..OKIEOILMAN] LOBSTER--TONY IS CORRECT ON HIS INFORMATION AND A WORTHWHILE LISTEN

[longrider] ..OKIEOILMAN well if you agree with Tony then you must agree With Mnt Goat and that to me makes a pritty good front line

[..OKIEOILMAN] LONG RIDER---MT GOAT AND TONY ARE EXCEPTIONAL SOURCES--A GREAT CONTRIBUTION TO THE DINAR COMMUNITY

[..OKIEOILMAN] BLESSINGS----GONE---AWAITING OUTCOME OF A PREVIOUS SCENARIO PROPOSED LAST NIGHT-------CYA

MNT GOAT POST, 15 AUGUST

Hi Everyone,

Absolutely gorgeous day here in the Alpine region of Bavaria. Wish you all could go on a hike with me today and we could talk dinar news together. I think you would come down refreshed and recharged.

So lets now get to todays business. A bit of house cleaning in this post. It is a long post. Also I may talk about some recent news from other intel sites but my intent is not to bash but to help you in your quest for news and lessen confusion and misunderstanding.

So here we go !

Seems lots of emails coming to me now on my post from the other day of this week. Seems many don't trust the  intel and find it necessary to go out and try to debunk what is being told. They have to listen to other sites, other calls  then bring the other opinions to me and ask me what I think.

You already know what I think. I TOLD YOU IN MY POST !  I will not address any of these request any longer.
I don't mind taking an objective, constructive viewpoint and you should too. You can look around and find other viewpoints but please don't copy and paste parts of my posts from other sites especially like Dinar Guru, for instance.

I beg of you not to do this. Some of these sites cut and paste and take my info out of context which gets confusing and causes yet more chaos, hype and only confusion. I see it each day in the emails I get.

I think this is what they want to do and are bent on this behavior. Don't buy into this madness. Let's stay grounded and fair on TNT.

 I am not a dinar guru and find it really insulting to be called or perceived as a guru. Do you know what a guru is? If you care for me and my news at all you would not do that or call me that name. Go look up the definition. Shame on you!  It is insulting to my integrity, background and my educational standing.

from merriam-webster dictionary guru defined:
Similargu·ru. noun \ˈgu̇r ü, ˈgü rü also gə-ˈrü\. plural gurus. Definition of GURU. 1. : a personal religious teacher and spiritual guide in Hinduism. 2. a : a teacher and ...


At some point you have to stick to one or a couple of intel providers and trust their information. Oh yes...TRUST is the operative word. That is it in a nut shell. No more to say. TRUST is the key word. If you are consistently finding this person you trust betrays your trust what do you do?  You move on and try to find someone else that you can trust.

If you listen to other sites you will get their opinions and it is just that their opinions. It can be confusing and frustrating and cause much stress in your life. Do you like stress? 

Relax and enjoy these days now since the RV will be coming soon and all this nonsense will be over soon. So how can you know if you are being lied to?

Sometimes you can't and you just and to TRUST...and time will tell you....Kind of like when you are dating someone new. You have to build up a trust slowly. But when it comes what do you do?

Do you question every little thing they say? No you listen and go along. Then someday (if that someday happens) that they begin to lie you will see it right away. It will be obvious. Time always makes a difference.

I want now to address an email I got on TNT from someone who popped over and listened to a PTR call to debunk my news about CIX. I am being nice today and will not do this in the future. I know my news in rock solid and comes from real good sources. So I am confident in what I post. Does the plan change? Yes it has and will again I am sure of it.

This does not  invalidate what the plan used to be does it. Do you not want to know all the plan? Their plan changes and so we must all buckle with the wind and deal with it. This is the nature of this revaluation. This is the nature of us all trying to piece this together as a TNT family.

 It is like no other since it is tied to a global reset of 190+ currencies. I could tell you so much more that I am telling but it would only confuse you yet more and cause you to deny my news even more. So bear with me and go along with the news. If you only knew what I know you too would see this in a different light.

Oh ....so you want to know what I know..do you? really?.....THEN READ AND TRUST MY POSTS !

My posts build upon each other and I always give you a tid bit more of info so you can connect the dots and begin to see the picture to the puzzle unfolding in front of us. Did you notice that already?

Sometimes I have to take a step back in time to make you understand something I am about to tell you. This is the nature of the beast....lol....I am not hiding anything but being very cautious cause I know we all come from different walks of life and education levels.

You may think you can handle it but in reality you would only digest parts of it and get yet more confused. Heck most of you are having issues now with what I am saying...lol....

So now let's go back and listen to commentary on PTRs last call once again and listen closely. Go to about the 9 minute mark where they talk about the CIX..

First he says CIX is taking over the authority from FOREX in the decisions thus taking some of that power away from it. This too I also said and agree.

So lets take one of those steps back in time now. As we do all know from Tony's calls in the past the Babylon II software was implemented about a year ago as part of Basil II requirements. Remember when Okie was saying rates like $43.00+? Those where the good old days...lol...

They were testing the new algorithms and pushing the new calculated rates down to the back screens at the banks.

Okie had some bank contacts telling him that the new rates popped out and so they were getting all excited. This is what the IMF normally does just prior to a currency RV and so the banks would see just it prior to a rate change in the past.

It was only logical to get excited and think the rates were really high and our RV of the IQD was coming out real soon. But in the excitement they forgot the BIG picture. That maybe the IMF was just testing the process? 

They forgot or didn't know about the implementation of the software. So Okie took lots of heat and criticism from everyone.

So what does the new Babylon II software do?
It has a very large set of algorithms (opps I said algorithms..shame on me) that determines the asset to currency values for just about every currency in the world.

It then readjusts currency values based on pivot currencies (or what some call base currencies). i.e. the US dollar is used to determine other regional currencies so there is fairness in trading partners.

Next Gary says something that I too agree with in that he says and I quote close to it "the CIX will be released when satisfied that its completed and the allignment we are looking for is done"

However Gary just said prior that the CIX is not holding up the RV. So which is it?  It is holding it up or not cause the CIX its not completed and the allignment to currencies is not completed or is it?  Can't have it both ways.

Can't RV unless it done. So again I ask you is it done? Sounds confusing. I can tell you its not done without a shadow of a doubt. They are still testing it and expect to be completed this week. Again the operative word is EXPECT.

I don't know what the situation is with many people but they refuse to beleive most of the intel being provided to them. They refuse to believe that they have tried many times to push this RV thru and at the last minute decided to change the plan. It's discouraging, its painful and very stressful for us all but it is happening this way.

Now let me say one more item about CIX. CIX implementation also gives more autonomy to the Central Banks of each country. What do I mean by that? 

Remember I said that the rates will have to be periodically adjusted to keep the balance of currencies as time goes on. If this was not done and done fairly then the world's economies would only end up in this mess once again in the near future.

So how do you update the database with the asset changes to literally millions of attributes? This is a daunting task for one input source but now under CIX it is left to each of the CBs under the CIX umbrella. This is the main reason for doing this. Also they needed a better way to ensure rates can be pushed to the final destinations (the banks).

I said in a previous post that once the rates are determined the CIX is the train that decides to make the delivery. It then takes the new rate(s) and sends it down the the RR track. Each Central Bank is a stop along the way. As the CBs get the rates they will deliver them to each bank in the country.

As new banks are added or deleted the CBs of that country will be responsible to ensure it is delivered and delivered within a designed window timeframe. Any asset changes thus are also put on the train and sent back to the CIX control on the return trip home.

This way the IMF has decentralized the process instead of taking on all the responsiblity of pushing to thousands and thousands of banks throughout the world. The result is more timely. accurate currency updates.

The IMF has had some serious issues dispersing the rates with one bank getting one set of rates while onother bank getting another set. This also has caused much disparity in the past between nations and has lost trillions in currency for a country due to in accurate rates.

These rates are used in trading partners, tariffs and other monetary transactions of a county.  Many countries simple threatened to manage their own currencies if the IMF could not do it and do it correctly. So you see part and I say part of the economic collapse also has to be pointed at the IMF and it antiquated system.

This had to be corrected to get everyone to buy into the new process of Basel II. Now you can also see why it has taken so long to get the RV pushed out. Last week is the closest they have every gotten to full implementation. It is now so close. Do you get it why they want to implement CIX and decided to do it now?

Which site is best to get your dinar news?

Now either you can decide you don't want to listen to the news as it comes in and get all the news as it happens or just sit around waiting for the final notification that you can go exchange at the bank. ITS YOUR DECISION but I will say if you go around trying to debunk everything you hear on TNT with everyone elses news you will go nuts.

Its not a bad idea to listen to a couple different calls but like Tony said many times when it is all over with you will know who has been telling you the truth. Besides at least TNT is free and you are not paying a fee for someone to talk to you in circles. We have enough of a merry go round and don't need to be driven in circles and pay for it ,,,do we?....lol...

One more time on the Rate issue-

I will also comment on Delta's latest report from Frank26 call and Wangs latest call. Delta has moved his position many times on the rate issue.  Wang is very persistent but not accurate. I will say this for a fact. Dr Shabibi has come out and said that the dinar will revalue to meet all chapter 7 requirements. Also the CBI itself said in a news conference that the dinar value will surprise everyone when it does comes out.

So how can .86 or even $1.13 surprise anyone? I will also say this and this is where many get confused by talking about such low initial rates. These rates are built in and are rates specified in laws already established and in the gazette that protect the citizens in Iraq.

These laws state the rates to be set for different programs such as the pension fund, and other payments retro-active. So people take these rates out of context and talk about these as being the rate the dinar that must come out as a revalued value, but this is simply not the case.

They can revalue much higher as long as they pay these minumum payments as part of these programs. These minumum payments are not reflective of currency value according to the new Basil II and the Babylon II software algorithms.

Open you mind now and think for just a second about it. Think,  think , think!  This new software could not and would not ever calculate such a low rate nor would they later override such a low rate since it would contradict what they are trying to do in the global reset. It would simply make the Iraq dinar too low to use a base world currency and other currencies thus also would still be out of allignment.

Thus they accompished little by balancing the currencies cause they did not balance them at all cause they would have to go in and fudge the base currency (IQD). Of all currencies to play around with this is not the one you surely want to touch.

Also as I mentioned above , still to today they are testing and pushing the new rates down to the bank back screens. This is how we can think about what the rates may be. I said may be. But we all have to be careful and say it is just more testing.

Do we all want 2 digit rates? Yes of course but will it be that high?  Again I remind you the golden rule - NO ONE KNOWS THE DATE OR RATE. Do you get it now? Can we simply now put this issue to rest at least for us on TNT cause we now know better.

So here is the latest news I am hearing
Please don't shoot the messanger. First let me say that there is lots of controversy over when this will happen. I am hearing such things like early 2014, which iscomplete nonesense. 
Next I am hearing early September 2013. This may be more realistic but I have to tell you I personally know there is a far out date set for that period but it is not something they want to occur.

They need and want to complete this ASAP. They are awaiting now for allignment of certain items and they will pop this out to us.

I am hearing this could happen this week if all goes well. Get that champagne back in the frig !

Peace and Luv to ya all,
Mnt Goat

BLUWOLF UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

BluWolf: Attention all Thursday the 15th is the schedule international release of 198 countries, 

I honestly hope all transpires well without delays. 

Just make sure that you place your appointment call in as soon as possible, this is not new from me I have been saying it for the longest just make sure you get in and get out fast. 

Comprende. Bluwolf 

DELTA UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

Delta (per Bulldogford6) :  The RV process: It has to happen after the CBI closes, then the CBI will send an official letter notifying the banks that the next day the IQD value will increase to the named amount, and then when the CBI opens the next day, it will be with the new rate; the new rate will be international and it will be simultaneous globally, the rate will appear everywhere when they open after the CBI announcement. The timing will probably be around 5 AM eastern time (USA); the rate should be visible in the system at any bank in the USA when they open.

NESARA UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

Nesara BlogSpot Dinar Update: John MacHaffie

RV Intel/REPUBLIC Rumors

RUMORS - THEY WERE DRINKING AND PARTYING IN RENO, SAN FRANCISCO, WASH DC PER THE SUCCESSFUL RV COMPLETION YESTERDAY. 

RUMOR UNTIL ANNOUNCED - RV BUTTON WAS PUSHED YESTERDAY AT 2 AM BUT BEING KEPT SECRET UNTIL ANNOUNCED.

RUMOR - SOMETHING BIG HAPPENED IN WASH DC.

EXOGEN UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

Stage2Omega:

8-14-2013 EXOGEN:Contact just stated the revaluation of the iqd is 1000% confirmed in country, and awaiting on more details for the global release & update from the new cix system i.t implementation team right now at 8:42 pm est. Bank screen updates coming in the next hour in real time!!! 

Text message just received: the cix system is now 100% live with no glitches, all production testing is COMPLETED..

.ALL systems are 100% go, bank screens are still blank right NOW...(JUST in), and the process will not be stopped this TIME... 

Per conversations, all countries globally are integrated to new system, and every country contact on planet earth is stating the rv is completed in iraq, global debts are about to be paid in revalued iqd, via country reserve iqd holdings, it is finished over with, done and completed and nothing left but for the rates to show up globally on all bank screens world wide, ie gcr.

 Rates are now in transition from placeholder rates to live fixed rates with no hold pending STATUS

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PER CONVERSATION: FINAL CIX ALGORITHMS ARE NOW COMPLETED

POPPY3 POST: "RV LATE TOMORROW EVENING OR FRIDAY MORNING", 15 AUGUST

08/15/13 poppy 3: Just got on my wifes computer and she has been doing payroll all evening. I can't stay long have a ride planned. Got word today this mormning direct from a senators staff saying yes dan we have been told tomorrow is the date set for action on the rv of the dinar.

 They stated they got that word two weeks ago and just like i had reported two weeks ago they say no news about the rv has changed according to their sources. They state late tomorrow evening or friday morning. 

Time will tell but rich friends i have heard this date at least from 10 or more sources over the last two weeks. I know we can't trust anything about this bunch but this to me has been the first time ever that so many have been in agreement and have stayed set on this happening on or before the 15th for weeks...( have you )? Keep your prayer going up and lets all hope and pray for the best. Poppy3

MARKZ CHAT, 15 AUGUST

MarkZ] THE NEWS TODAY HAS BEEN GREAT FOLKS, A GOOD BIT OF WHAT IS ON THE BOARDS IS SOLID FOR A CHANGE. MT GOAT WAS GOOD.

[Shivohm] MarkZ She is moving up on my credibility list. Two solid, pithy posts in a row! And all that from Bavarria?

sln1987] Jester Based on all the talk about the playing field being leveled by Mom & Pop banks being added will there still be a difference in rates between those in the email roup & those that are not?

[MarkZ] sln1987 I will take a shot at that... As for bank rates the field has been leveled a good bit but, some of the groups are actually considered tier two private placements and should be higher.

[Iank1978] MarkZ is the generals group now considered tier two

[MarkZ] Iank1978 I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY AN EXCELLENT SOURCE THAT IT IS. THAT COULD BE BIG IMO. TO BE SAFE AND KEEP MY OPTIONS OPEN I WOULD SIGN UP THERE.

[Moonview] Jester MarkZ ... so does everyone with currency over a certain amount have to sign a NDA at all banks so ALL will keep thier mouth shut abou this???

[MarkZ] Moonview I HAVE SIGNED SO MANY NDA'S THAT I AM NOT SURE WHAT I CAN SAY ANYMORE..... JUST EXPECT THEM UNLESS YOU ARE SETTLING FOR STREET RATE SOMEWHERE.

[Moonview] MarkZ I was just thinking this may be a great way to keep it hush hush from leaking out to the masses

[Kuda] MarkZ Jester Will we need proof of purchase receipts for CE if IQD, VND ... Thanks!

[MarkZ] Kuda I HAVE BEEN TOLD YES AND NO, I AM TAKING THEM FOR ALL MY BUG PURCHASES. IF ALL I HAD WAS A NOTE OR TWO I DOUBT IT WOULD MATTER.

 [TXaliveinCA] MarkZ - on Dinar Guru the RV meter still said 21% believe the RV soon and 79% think more need to be done. What's your thoughts on this!!???

 [MarkZ] TXaliveinCA FLIP FLOP THE NUMBERS....    

[Jiff] MarkZ good evening, your answer to sixpack if they were fair game starting this evening into tomorrow we should have a great rest of the week? IYO...what you have to say?

[MarkZ] Jiff I AM NOT LOOKING FOR THE PUBLIC RV UNTIL THE 19TH OR AFTER. BUT LIKE I SAID EARIER. PRIVATE PLACEMENTS COULD AND SHOULD BE EARLIER.

[TRudinarfreedom] MarkZ do you know anything about the INDONESIA RUPIAH...

[blest40] MarkZ Will the PP's be delivered by hand, or FedX, etc.?

[MarkZ] blest40 BY HAND. US MARSHALL'S IS WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TOLD.

blest40] MarkZ That might be a BIG JOB! Thanks.

[1biz4u] MarkZ so in your opinion.. this is definatily our month?? thanks :) :) 

[MarkZ] 1biz4u I FIRMLY BELIEVE IT TO BE. BESIDES.... BERNACKE IS GONE SEPTEMBER 1, US MILITARY HAS HUGE LAY OFFS THIS FALL.... TOO MANY SIGNS TO IGNORE NOW. IT IS HAPPENING. OUR WORLD IS A CHANGIN''''

[Iank1978] MarkZ do you think all emails will go out same time in generals group

[MarkZ] Iank1978 YES

[Jester] OK... ALMOST TIME TO SHUT DOWN FOR THE NIGHT... I HOPE YOU HAVE ALL HAD A NICE TIME... SOME GREAT QUESTIONS WERE BROUGHT IN TONIGHT... I LIKE IT LIKE THAT.. MAKES IT MORE FUN TO ME NOT USING THE RUBBER STAMP ALL THE TIME... SO KUDOS TO YOU ALL... I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT NIGHT AND A NICE TOMORROW... UNTIL LATER... 

SEEYALATERBYE...

JESTER CHAT, 15 AUGUST

[Jester] HELLO FELLOW AMERICANS... HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL TONIGHT...

[Jester] I WANTED TO DO SOME REAL WORLD STUFF TONIGHT…. INDICATORS THAT THINGS ARE HEADING IN DIFFERENT DIRECTION…. THE DIRECTION WE WANT… SOME OF THIS STUFF HAS ME PRETTY EXCITED...

[Jester] SO… HOW ABOUT SOME GLOBAL RESET INDICTORS… I LOVE THIS STUFF... AND EACH ONE OF THESE ARTICLES IS JAM PACKED WTIH BACK UP ARTICLES... BEEN READING THIS STUFF FOR HOURS TODAY....

[Jester] GLOBAL CURRENCY RESET IN PROGRESS… IN THIS ARTICLE CHINA AND RUSSIA ARE DISCUSSING A NEW ARRANGEMENT TO THAT WOULD BACK THE YUAN WITH GOLD… YIKES… THE END IS NEAR! .
LINK

[Jester] IN THAT RUN DOWN WAS THIS ARTICLE TOO... A LITTLE PICTURE OF ALICE LOOKING DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE AT THE TOP…. OR AS BILL MURRAY WOULD SAY…. “Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria...!”... HEY I DIDN’T MAKE THAT UP... IT’S IN THE ARTICLE... TALKING ABOUT OUR ECONOMY . 
http://www.alt-market.com/articles/1636-gold-markets-get-strange--is-economic-danger-near

[Jester] The reason our entire fiscal system now operates in a backwards manner is due to one simple truth - every major indicator of our economy today is manipulated by our central bank, which uses its printing press to prop up everything from equities to treasuries to municipal bonds. They openly admit to it. They are proud of the fact. They swagger about as if they are the heroes of the day. They act as if we should be thankful. But what is reality here?

[Jester] Fact #1: Our Economy Is Supported By Federal Reserve StimulusFact #1: Our Economy Is Supported By Federal Reserve Stimulus

[Jester] Fact#2: Our Economy Is Addicted To Stimulus

[Jester] Fact #3: Stimulus Has Done Little Or Nothing To Improve Our Economic Situation Since 2008

[Jester] Fact #4: Stimulus Cannot Continue Forever

[Jester] I'm sorry to have to break it to those folks, but they are ALREADY dumping the dollar in bilateral trade with each other. China, the second largest economy in the world, the largest exporter/importer in the world, and the largest foreign investor in U.S. dollars and treasuries, has been slowly but surely removing the dollar as the reserve currency in most of its international trading:

[Jester] AND HE STATES SEVERAL EXAMPLES OF THAT IN THE ARTICLE....THEN...

[Jester] The latest news announces that China has just signed a new deal with Russia supplying china with 25 years worth of petroleum, and this oil will NOT be purchased in dollars, meaning the Greenback's status as the petrodollar is being openly challenged .

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2013/06/22/russia-inks-big-china-oil-deal/

[Jester] Foreign investors are moving away from the dollar. This is a fact, and it will inevitably lead to the end of the dollar's world reserve status, and thus, the end of the dollar as we know it.

[Jester] IS THAT A HINT OR WHAT?

[Jester] AND IN OTHER NEWS… STEVE FORBES ON ABOLISHING THE IRS AND SIMPLIFY THE TAX CODE…. SAY WHAT????? .   http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/2600470737001/forbes-abolish-irs-and-simplify-the-tax-code/?cmpid=NL_fbceo

[Jester] I LOVED THAT VIDEO…AGAIN.. DO YOU GUYS THINK THESE GUYS SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL?

Jester: THIS IS THE REAL WORLD INDICATORS OF THE END OF THE FED AND HE DOLLAR AS A WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY IF YOU AR WATCHING FOLKS…

Jester: NOW FOLKS… I AM BETTING THESE GUYS KNOW WHAT IT GOING ON… THEY ARE PUTTING ALL THE HINTS OUT THERE THAT THEY CAN… IF YOU CARE TO SEE IT YOU ARE WITNESSING THE END OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK AND THE IRS… NOW TO BE SURE… THE FED WILL NOT COMPLETELY GO AWAY… JUST THEIR ASSOCIATION WITH THE US… THE FED IS NEEDED FOR WESTERN UNION AND OTHER INTERBANK WIRING FUNCTIONS THAT IT NOW PROVIDES… IT JUST WON’T BE LOANING MONEY TO THE US  ANY LONGER…

 Jester: I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH A VERY SIMPLE POINT… YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN TOLD ALL ALONG TO ASK FOR UST WHEN YOU CE…. HOW DID YOU THINK THAT WAS GOING TO BE POSSIBLE IN THE FIAT MONEY SYSTEM? I’LL GIVE YOU A HINT… IT ISN’T POSSIBLE….

  Jester: THE REMOVING OF THE FIAT MONEY SUPPLY AND RE-INSTITUTING THE GOLD BACKED MONEY SUPPLY…

Jester: NOW… DID YOU NOTICE THE SEPTEMBER 1ST DATE… NO FED… HMMMM…. GIVES YOU SOME THINGS TO THINK ABOUT NOW DOESN’T IT?

Jester: THE DOLLAR THAT IS FAILING IS A FIAT DOLLAR THAT IS OF NO WORTH TO US.... TO BE REPLACED BY A BEAUTIFUL NEW GOLD BACK UST BILL... GREAT NEWS.... NOT GLOOMY...

Jester: HOPE THAT HELPS PULL BACK THE CURTAIN A LITTLE... THANKS FOR LISTENING!

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justified: Jester I have searched in the Iraqi press for some mention that a RV has been accomplished but the GOI but they continue to discuss how to move forward with currency reform etc....but you and Okie as well as others say there was an in country RV...can you offer an explanation?

Jester: justified WHEN THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY HAPPY OVER THERE... AND REPORTED BY MANY... AND I HAVE DIRECT INFORMATION THAT CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN PAID... AND IT IS EVIDENT THAT THERE IS A BLACKOUT FROM BOTH... AND I CAN VERIFY THAT... THEY HOW DO YOU THINK YOU CAN FIND IT IN AN ARTICLE? HEY DON'T WANT US TO KNOW...

[siskhyder] Jester. U think we can Rv prior to September ?

[Jester] siskhyder WE CAN... I AM JUST POINTING OUT THAT THE INDICTIONS OF THE GOLD BACKED MONEY BEING IN PLACE ARE PRETTY CLEAR BY THEN...

[gatorstomp] Jester In one of the two scenarios put out by Tony and now Okie, if the rate goes live at the lower rate, how will that impact the need to bring in all US dinar within 30 days? Seems if anything, that will slow it down IMO. Thanks for your response.

[Jester] gatorstomp BS... THE RATE WILL BE LIVE AT IT'S INTRINSIC ASSET VALUE AS ASSESSED BY THE NEW MONETARY SYSTEM IN THE RESET...

[Vote4RV] jester so thinking the new process is lots of banks but that the mom and pops will probably do the people with one or two notes. Does this make sense as they will not have the delarue?

[Jester] Vote4RV I DUNNO... WHY GO THERE? EVEN IF YOU HAVE ONLY A COUPLE NOTES DON'T YOU WANT THE MOST YOU CAN GET FOR THEM?

[1biz4u] Jester if its only going to be .86 why not hold it for awhile according to some guru today?

[Jester] 1biz4u YOU GUYS NEED TO QUIT LISTENING TO EVERY YO-YO OUT THERE AND THINK FOR YOURSELF... DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE WITH WHAT YOU SEE GOING ON AROUND YOU? IRAQ IS RICH... THE RESET IS OBVIOUS... SHEESH... STOP DOING THAT TO YOURSELF...

[ace] Jester was the forex bought or just smoke?

[Jester] ace FOREX WAS NOT BOUGHT... OK HOLD ON A MINUTE AND LET ME HAVE THE FLOOR ON THIS QUESTION.... EVERYONE READ WHAT THE QUESTION WAS...THE FOREX WAS NOT BOUGHT... AND YOU HAVE ALL BEEN HEARING THE STUFF RUNNING AROUND OUT THERE ABOUT THIS CIX RIGHT? LET ME TELL YOU A COUPLE THINGS...FIRST OF ALL I REPORTED A COUPLE NIGHTS AGO THAT I COULD FIND NO REFERENCE TO ANYTHING REGARDING ANY CIX AT ALL ANYWHERE...

AND THEN I REPORTED THAT I HAD ALL MY FOREX CONTACTS ASKING AROUND AND NO ONE WAS AWARE OF ANY SUCH TAKEOVER OF THE FOREX SYSTEM OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT... SO I BLEW IT OFF AS SMOKE AND BS...

BUT I WAS WRONG TO DO THAT... BUT SOMETIMES THE ANSWER IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU DON'T SEE IT...LETS GO BACK A COUPLE MONTHS TO THE NEW BANKING SYSTEM... REMEMBER HOW WE REPORTED IT CAME ON LINE OVERLAYING THE OLD ONE AND RAN ALONG SIDE A WHILE BEFORE IT TOOK OVER THE OLD SYSTEM....WELL THE SAME THING IS GOING ON HERE...

TO SIMPLIFY... WE THINK THE GHOST SYSTEM WE WERE ALREADY AWARE OF IS WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT...IT HAS BEEN OVERLAYING THE FOREX SYSTEM FOR SOME TIME ALREADY... WE THOUGHT OF IT LIKE A GHOST READY TO MOVE INTO PLACE WITH THE NEW SYMBOLS AND SUCH SO WE DIDN'T THINK MUCH OF IT...SO WHEN THEY CAME OUT WITH ALL THIS CIX STUFF... WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE CALLING IT OR NOT... COULD BE...

BUT ANYWAY... IT WAS NOT OBVIOUS THAT WAS WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT SINCE THEY MADE IT SOUND LIKE SOME KIND OF TAKEOVER OF THE SYSTEM... WHICH IT WASN'T... BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY THERE.. SO REST ASSURED THAT IF YOU WANT TO THINK OF IT AS THE CIX THEN HAVE AT IT... BUT IT IS THE GHOST SYSTEM ALREADY RUNNING ALONGSIDE THE EXISTING FOREX READY TO MOVE INTO PLACE WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT...

[SteveCo] Stage2Omega claims that "as of tonight the cix system is now 100% live with no glitches, all production testing is COMPLETED..ALL systems are 100% go, bank screens are still blank right NOW..(JUST in), and the process will not be stopped this TIME"

[Jester] SteveCo I CAN HOWEVER ALSO REPORT THAT I AM AWARE THAT THERE IS A TIMELINE FOR THAT... AND IT IS NOT UP YET... THE ALIGNMENT IS NOT COMPLETE ACCORDING TO WHAT I AM TOLD....

[WuDanFu] I have only one question, Jester, you mentioned last night about a problem with volume in the group, is that a potential problem with the nuber of people signed up? Or a problem with the amount of Dinar reported by those who are signed up?

[Jester] WuDanFu THE CHINESE ARE APPARENTLY AFTER A CERTAIN AMOUNT... WHO KNOW WHAT THAT IS... IS HAS TICKED THEM OFF FOR OTHERS TO BE TRYING TO CUT INTO THEIR SUPPLY IN MY OPINION...

[siskhyder] Jester.. any Lew announcements forthcoming?

[Jester] siskhyder WE ARE AWARE HE WILL BE MAKING SOME... BUT WE ARE ALSO AWARE THERE WILL BE SOME BIGGER ONES... STAY TUNED... IT IS GOING TO BE GREAT...

[amg] Jester in your response to sixpack. please clarify the post is what it is or the content of what was said.

[Jester] amg I DO NOT LIKE TO COMMENT ON OTHER INTEL GUYS POSTS... OKIE IS A FRIEND... HE HAS HIS WAY AND I HAVE MINE... AND GREAT RESPECT FOR ONE ANOTHER...

[RPharmer] Jester So do you think it is a coincidence that Sterling will be closed tomorrow at 6PM and open again Friday at 9AM??

[Jester] RPharmer THEY HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE... THEY DO IT EVERY SO OFTEN TO UPDATE THEIR SYSTEM I BELIEVE...