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Monday, August 12, 2013

BLUWOLF UPDATE, 12 AUGUST

Jejeje you know I thought I had seen everything. Being logical and to the point I can see how some think that they are getting away with murder. They create situations around a certain bank, they actually paid folks to act like idiots with the only goal to delay a blessing,,yes a blessing that no matter how hard they keep trying to delay it, it will come to be because God wants it out there. 

Now by looking at all this from the side lines one can see things clearly, one can see that WF isn't really the delaying factor here one can sense that all other institutions have a evil hand in trying to shift your focus from the real deal ( and that is the highest rates and best attention and that's with Wells Fargo ). 

Folks please do not be fooled and stay focus follow your North and stay sharp. If you notice after all this banking allegations of a negative thought, Wells Fargo has been silent the reason being if you haven't done anything wrong there's no need in justifying a thing. I can tell that Wells Fargo has done there adjustments and they will be out of the bullpen asn just stomping there competition. 

Be bless now, stay calm sit back and you will see the magic occur. 

Bluwolf

POPPY3 UPDATE, 12 AUGUST

8-12-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3:  i am still told today the rv will continue as it should and they still think by the 15th we will be ready to go to a location to exchange our dinar.

MORT POST, 12 AUGUST

(mort)  4;52 pm est my guy said it was suppose to have had the announcement today at 2 pm est-not sure what happened or why if it wasn't-but the problem that wells fargo had was resolved and should have been all done today and us in the banks now

EAGLE1 POST, 12 AUGUST

NOTES FROM EAGLE 1 (KTFA/FRANK26) GLOBAL RESET UPDATE FROM stage2omega TO You

1. THE FOREX SYSTEMS HAVE CRASHED MANY TIMES

2. BABYLON 2 IS INTEGRATED

3. THE GLOBAL CENTRAL BANKS PURCHASED THE MAJOR GLOBAL FOREX EXCHANGES (FAMILIES)

4. THE FOREX SYSTEMS COULD NOT SUPPORT THE GLOBAL CURRENCY RESET

5. THE NEW SYSTEM IS CALLED THE CENTRAL INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE

6. THE NEW SYSTEM WAS TESTED THIS WEEKEND AT ALL BANKS
7. THE FOREX WAS DOWN 12 HOURS FOR TRANSITION

8. AS OF THIS MORNING THE RV SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED

9. THE IMF IS OVERSEEING THE PROJECT

10. THE CENTRAL BANKS ARE FRUSTRATED

12. THE NEW SYSTEM IS GLITCH FREE

13. THE MAJOR BANK FAMILIES OF THE WORLD WERE IN ON THE PURCHASE

14. THE PTB OF THE PLANET ARE NOW ALL ON THE SAME PAGE TO GET THIS DONE

15. TEST NUMBERS HAVE BEEN ON ALL SCREENS

16 THE PROCESS IS BEING EXPEDITED

17. THE WANT THIS COMPLETED IMMEDIATELY

18. WELLS FARGO IS NOT THE DELAY OR HOLD UP

19. WELLS FARGO IS THE LEAD ON THE PROJECT

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 12 AUGUST

8-12-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    I KNOW YOU ARE DISAPPOINTED AND SO AM I.  I FURNISH YOU WITH THE LATEST INFORMATION AVAILABLE BUT CANNOT CONTROL WHEN THE ACTUAL RELEASE WILL BE GIVEN. IT IS ENTIRELY IN THE HANDS OF THE BANKS. I WILL NOT FURNISH ANY FURTHER INFORMATION PENDING ACTIVATION BECAUSE OF INCORRECT INTEL OR UNKNOWN DELAYS UNKNOWN TO ME.  I STILL FEEL IT'S VERY CLOSE BUT WILL NOT GET ANYONE EXCITED OVER PHONE CALLS I RECEIVE TELLING ME THE DATE OF RELEASE. I MAKE NO APOLOGIES FOR OTHERS THAT ARE CAUSING ANY DELAYS. I AM ONLY A MESSENGER---BLESSINGS  [post 2 of 2....stay tuned]

8-12-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    TODAY IS NOT OVER YET BUT GETTING LATER BY THE MINUTE.  LAST THURSDAY NIGHT THE R/V OCCURRED AND THE RATES WERE RELEASED TO THE BANKS. THE OTHER MAJOR BANKS ARE READY TO EXCHANGE NOW BUT FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON WELLS FARGO AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS HOLDING THE PROCESS UP.(TEMPORARILY OR NOT I DON'T KNOW).   I WAS INFORMED SATURDAY NIGHT WE WOULD ALL BE IN THE BANKS TODAY---WELL???--  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

8-12-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony   What's going on today? It has nothing to do with Iraq.  They got their cards and they are loaded at 3.44. They're enjoying themselves. They have money & are spending it.  Banks brought people in today & they have a time frame for something to change. There is still chance for it to go today. I'm hearing not to expect it until late this evening.  I'm still excited, I know it will happen, I know where we are, & it could be any hour. [do you have any info on the rate]  The rate did not change over the weekend it is still double digits for the dinar, and over $2 for the dong.  Can be any moment, they have their procedures, they going through them again this morning. When it does change it will be exciting.  [post 3 of 3]

8-12-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony  A significant event happened last Thurs at 7PM...it was released to banks and they pulled it back. But since that time they decided they needed to change their strategy.  That was Thursday, today is Monday & we are still waiting.   They are trying to get this done in 30 days from start date.  They have expanded it to Ma and Pa banks in order for it to work.  I know they had 10 yrs to do this, but they never thought it was this complicated, that they would get just 30 days. It's not a system problem. It's working and the numbers are still the same on their boards.  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

8-12-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony   Talked all weekend to our resources. Everybody was excited all across the board and this a.m everyone is frustrated. The bank people are frustrated. Bank people went in several times, were sent home, then called back again. All those banks were told it's going in 3 hrs, but it didn't happen.  It was supposed to happen between 1a.m. & 4 a.m. There are live rates sitting at banks.  I talked to people at BOA, Chase, 5/3 and others, all are saying they are ready to go, just 1 bank is not ready.  Then I heard they were given an ultimatum that they said they would meet, but here we are today.  [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

8-12-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    IMF SAID THEY APPROVED $3.22 PLUS UP TO 20% ABOVE THAT TO COVER INFLATION OVER THE 1O PLUS YEARS OF WAR AND THEY SAID THAT AND PLACED IT ON THEIR WEB SITE FOR THREE DAYS BACK IN OCT OF 2010 AND EVEN THOUGH DR SHABIBI ISN'T THERE ANY LONGER THAT FIGURE CAME FROM THE IMF THEMSELVES AND THEY SET AND APPROVE ALL RATES.   [post 3 of 3]

8-12-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3     the big gorilla in this senario is they share two huge oil fields with kuwait and the trade on that oil would be way out of balance and all their profits from their part woul go to kuwait and that isn't going to happen.   if kuwaits oil is selling and based on their rate of $3.58 and huge iraq is based on $1.16 man kuwait would love that.  LOL.  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

8-12-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   i have never never found one word from any official of the imf or cbi that has ever stated one word about a lowe rate.  they for sure can't fund their budget at 1.16,  period.   They also would not de-dollarrise their streets of usd for a long time at that small rate and they can't rebuild their country or intice foriegn investors with that rate...not buying into all the hype on it will float.   [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

8-12-2013  Newshound Guru Med   THEY HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM CHAPTER VII.  THIS WAS BIG.  IT OPENED UP THEIR OPPORTUNITIES FOR INTERNATIONAL TRADE.  BUT NO ONE IS KNOCKING THEIR DOOR DOWN SO FAR OTHER THAN OIL...AND LET THEM PAY WITH THE IQD.  I GUARANTEE THAT NO G7 OR G20 COUNTRY EXCEPT CHINA WILL TAKE THE IQD IF NOT AN INTERNATIONAL CURRENCY.  THEY ARE IN VERY BAD SPOT...THESE CONSTANT DELAYS AND CHANGE OF MINDS IS NOT HELPING PUT ANY CONFIDENCE IN THE IQD WITH THE IRAQI PEOPLE.  [post 2 of 2]

8-12-2013  Newshound Guru Med    KNOW THAT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING THERE ARE MANY MANY VARIABLES AND FACTORS INVOLVED IN A COUNTRY MAKING SUCH A DRAMATIC CHANGE IN THE VALUE OF THEIR CURRENCY AND IT IS NOT JUST THE COUNTRIES CENTRAL BANK OR THE COUNTRIES PRIME MINISTER WHO IS MAKING THIS DECISION.  THE IMF, THE WORLD BANK,  ALL THE COUNTRIES IN THE G7 ARE ALL MAKING CALLS.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

8-12-2013  Intel Guru Frank26    Almost EVERY week some Qi Cards are passed out to different categories...Groups.  They are loaded with funds. But we do not know the rate being used. We will when the cards are activated.  The Qi Cards have a symbiotic relationship with MANY facets attached to it's development. LD's...Laws...Tariffs...HCL...Ect.   One for all and all for...3+.

8-12-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   I had an interesting conversation with a with very astute, businessman/investor... He feels that Iraq is much more likely to come out at a much higher – more “natural value” type rate, initially. His assertion is that it works for their budget and international investment more than a lower open/float scenarioHis sense is that most of the recent info – though very credible, is intentional disinformation to keep everyone “on their heels” for the moment. I cannot say I completely disagree. Though I have differing information. On the other hand – I am making room (and am preparing) for any reasonable possibility. Particularly for the possibility we can be surprised.

8-12-2013  Intel Guru Jester    I AM STILL LOOKING FOR CERTAIN THINGS TO BE DONE... THAT IS WHY I DON'T DO RATE AND DATE.  I KNOW WE STILL HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GET INTO PLACE AND THEY ARE NOT THERE YET.   IT IS A PROCESS AND IT JUST ISN'T FINISHED YET...AND IT WILL BE FINISHED WHEN ALL THE STEPS ARE COMPLETED AND NOT BEFORE.   WE BEEN SEEING THE SAME RATES FOR WEEKS ON THE BANK SCREENS AND FOREX... AND THE RATES ARE IN THE RANGE OF KUWAIT.  

8-12-2013  Intel Guru TerryK   TOLD TONIGHT [SUNDAY] OR TOMORROW, SO THAT GOES ALONG WITH WHAT OTHERS ARE SAYING.  I'M HEARING ALOT OF GOOD THINGS ABOUT TONIGHT.   I JUST HOPE IT'S ALL TRUE

TONY CC, PART 1, 12 AUGUST

GOOD MORNING

WE'RE HERE
ONE BIG FAMILY
Q & A IS ON ALREADY
IF YOU COULD LET SOME NEW PPL GET IN TODAY
THEY WOULD BE SO APPRECIATIVE
GOOD MORNING TNT
BRIGHT SUNNY
12TH OF AUGUST
WE STILL DON'T HAVE $ IN THE BANK ACCT.
THAT'S WHAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT TODAY
PPL I TALK TO IN THE MORNING
TALKED ALL WEEKEND
RESOURCES
EVERYBODY WAS EXCITED
ALL ACROSS THE BOARDS
THIS MORN. EVERYONE IS FRUSTRATED
ALL ACROSS THE BOARDS
AND I SEE IT
WHY IT DIDN'T HAPPEN
WATCHING THE BOARDS
AND HEARING FROM OTHER BOARDS
NOT JUST OUR BOARD
ONLY CONCERNED WITH OUR BOARD
OVER HERE AT TNT DINAR
WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS
WE HEAR IT
WHERE WE ARE AT
AT ALMOST EVERY LEVEL
AND WHATS GOING ON
SO WE ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS
EVENTUALLY GOING TO SAY THAT
BUT A WHOLE LOT MORE
GIVE YOU THE INFO
MOST OF THE SOURCES
AND DURING THE HOUR
AND PART OF THAT DAY
IF FOR ANY REASON YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT
THIS IS NOT THE PLACE TO BE
HERE WE LIVE IN REAL LIFE
WE'RE NOT TELLING YOU ITS NOT HAPPENING
AND THAT THE CALL FOR THE DAY
OR THE PTB
DON'T WANT IT
AND WHY - I DON'T KNOW
IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR
YOU SHOULD GO SOMEWHERE ELSE
THIS IS FOR ADULTS
MAKE DECISIONS
THIS IS HOW THE REAL WORLD WORKS
AND YOU HAVE YOUR MONEY
THINGS WILL HAPPEN EVERY DAY THAT AFFECTS THAT DECISION
HOPEFULLY THE MAJORITY OF YOU WON'T DEAL W/ THIS SITUATION AGAIN
AND A LOT OF US WILL BE IN THE SAME SITUATION NEXT MONTH
WE WON'T DO IT - LIKE THIS SITUATION
I PUT OUT A POST YESTERDAY
FINALLY THE MAJORITY
AND EVEN THE NEGATIVE PPL
WERE SAYING THIS IS THE TIME TO GO
EVERYONE WAS GEARING UP FOR IT
I CAN TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND
BANKING PPL WENT IN
2 HOURS ON SAT
AND WENT HOME
CALLED IN AND WENT HOME AGAIN
YESTERDAY, IN AGAIN, TOLD BETWEEN 1 AND 4 AM
AND ITS TOMORROW MORNING AND THEY STILL DON'T HAVE PPL TO SEE
TALKED TO CHASE, 5/3RD, BOFA
THEY ARE ALL READY, TOLD ME AND OTHERS
ONE BANK THATS NOT READY
AND THAT ONE BANK SAYS
WHY YOU BLAMING US
THEN TOLD THEY WERE GIVEN THE ULTIMATUM
AND HERE WE ARE TODAY
THE REAL WORLD
WHAT WE DO KNOW IS
THERE ARE LIVE RATES SITTING AT BANKS
SOME OF YOU SAY THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT
CAN'T SEE IT
YOU WONT' TILL ITS YOUR TURN AT THE BANKS
THE PPL I'M TALKING TO ARE AT THIS LEVEL
CASH OUT CENTERS
OUR GOV. PPL ARE FRUSTRATED
AND ITS SOMETHING BETWEEN
THE TREASURY AND THE BANKS
UST SAYS ITS AT THE BANKS
AND THE BANKS SAY ITS ONE BANK
AND WE'LL HAVE TO DO THIS DANCE
UNTIL THEY GET IT DONE
BUT THEY ARE ALONG THE WAY
PREPARING US FOR IT
THAT MAY BE THE THING BEHIND IT
I DON'T KNOW
LOOKING ON THE BOARDS
PPL SAYING ITS THE IDIOTS IN THE PARKING LOT
NO ONE SAID THE 5 LOCATIONS IS HOLDING UP THE WORLDS RV
THEY SEE IT HAPPENING AND ARE MAKING CHANGES
THAT CAN BE PART OF THE PROBLEM
DONT' BE NARROW MINDED
NOT TALKING DOWN
BUT
THE WORLD DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT
THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THIS DONE IN 30- DAYS
FROM THE DATE IT STARTS
THEY EXPANDED IT
TO ADD MORE BANKS
ALL OF THAT TAKES TIME
EVEN THOUGH I SEND YOU TO THE BANK OF NOVA SCOTIA
HOW DOES THAT GET DONE
CREDITED TO WF
ITS A PROCESS
AND I  KNOW AND YOU KNOW THEY HAD 10 YEARS TO DO IT
THEY NEVER THOUGHT THEY'D HAVE TO CONTEND W/ PPL
THAT REFUSE TO LEAVE THE PARKING LOTS
BEFORE IT EVEN HAPPENED
WHOLE LOT OF CHAOS GOING TO BE GOING ON
IS IT THE DRIVING FACTOR FOR THEM NOT RELEASING IT
I DON'T KNOW
I JUST KNOW THERE IS ONE BANK THAT HASN'T GIVEN THE RELEASE
AND THE OTHERS HAVE
NUMBERS ON THE BOARDS
AND THAT HASN'T CHANGED
WHEN I GIVE YOU THE INFO
ITS THE LATEST THING THEY HEARD
ON FRIDAY THINK I TOLD YOU
OR INTEL GATHERERS
THAT THEY HAD TO MONDAY MORNING
ACTUALLY IT WAS SAT. NIGHT
AND IT DIDN'T
BUT THERE IS STILL ALL DAY MONDAY
NOT A SYSTEM PROBLEM
IT HAS BEEN WORKING AND IS WORKING
ITS SOMEONE THAT MADE A DECISION
THEY PUSHED IT ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE
EVERY ONE OF THOSE BANKS
WERE TOLD OVER THE WEEKEND
GOING IN AN HOUR
CATERED LUNCH
AND IT DIDN'T HAPPEN


WHATS GOING ON TODAY
THEY BROUGHT THEM IN TODAY
DO HAVE A TIME FRAME OF SOMETHING TO CHANGE
AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL
NOTHING TO DO W/ IRAQ AT THIS TIME
THEY ARE ENJOYING THEMSELVES
THEY HAVE MONEY
BUYING AND SPENDING
ARE THERE THINGS GOING ON OVER THERE
TURN ON CNN
AND SEE FOR YOURSELF,  100 KILLED IN IRAQ OVER THE WEEKEND
IN MIAMI, NY, WASH. DC, THERE WERE OVER 100 KILLED HERE
BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE NEWS
BUT IRAQ MADE THE NEWS
BUT ALOT  OF THAT HAS CALMED DOWN THERE
WAITING FOR THE INTERNATIONAL
THEY TOLD THEM ON FRIDAY AT THE MOSQUE
RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD
WHEN THEY GET AUTHORIZATION
AND THEY'VE GIVEN IT TWICE
THAT WE KNOW OF
AND WE ARE HERE WAITING

2 OPTIONS
LETS SEE WHAT OUR PROJECTIONS ARE
OR HANG UP THE PHONE
STAY OFF THE BOARDS
AND WAIT TILL SOMEONE CALLS TO SAY IT RV'D
THAT'S THE EASIEST WAY TO TELL YOU HOW TO HANDLE IT
I TRY TO SORT OUT WHATS RIGHT AND WRONG
AND WHAT TO BRING YOU
OTHER BOARDS DO THE SAME THING
AND THEY TELL YOU THEY ARE HEARING THE SAME THING
NONE OF US
PUSH THE BUTTON
ESPECIALLY NOT ME
THEY HAVENT' GIVEN ME THAT AUTHORITY
YET
LOL
THERE IS A POSSIBILITY TODAY
NO MATTER WHO IS READY
WHO IS UPSET
WHO ISN'T UPSET
IT COULD GO
SO,WHAT I'M HEARING IS, THEY DON'T EXPECT IT TILL LATE THIS EVENING
SO WE CAN ENJOY OUR DAY
AND NOT EVEN LOOK FOR IT BEFORE THEN
I GOT WORD FROM CEO''S
VP'S
AND ALL READY, ITS GONNA HAPPEN
AND THEY'RE READY
AND ITS GONNA BE RELEASED
AND WE'RE STILL SITTING HERE
SO LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS TODAY
I KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS
NOTHING CAN DETER IT FOR ME
EVERY DAY EVERY HOUR IT COULD BE FOR ME
SAW A BUNCH IN THE Q & A

c- Iraq RV'd last Thursday correct?
t- they got money on their cards, rate is 3.44
t- said there was a significant event last Thurs. at 7pm,  Chase Bank, BofA, 5/3rd were all ready to go, live rates, and we keep hearing that since that time, they needed to change strategies, and as soon as its decided and confirmed they'll do this,  and that was Thurs. and its Monday
c- could it be like Kuwait, 10 days, is it the maximum
t- no one told me that, don't know it they requested 10 days or not
t- all we heard was Iraq wanted the 1st 72 hours and they had it
c- WF being the lead bank, how much a problem, it impacts the global, how much longer can they hold up the world
t- don't know, there was a time frame given, the times passed - we are still here, giving less and less info out, which could be in our favor
t- ppl in positions in WF told them this process should have been done this morning
c- the impact on the dollar ww - the high rate, due to 13303 and any agreements to support currencies elsewhere in the world and higher rates as a result
t- don't know what the high rate would do with 133303
t- they high rate is to let more ppl come quickly, instead of holding it, tried to make the rate irresistible, and you would run to the bank
c- the 30 day limit
c- if the banks were alerted
t- effective from the day we go to the bank
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c- ty frustrating, how can they hold it up, Iraq forex....
t- who the bank has relationships with
t- won't get the real answer until we can go and cash out
next
c- how are you
t- superfantastic
c- thought I had dropped off - so my apologies to new folks - is there anything out there that you are aware of, and can't share with us, but give us an idea of whats going on
t- i know things that are to happen afterwards, what I don't know is why it didn't happen over the weekend, every indication from every level is that it would
t- there for the weekend, it has been changed, if its not done, we'll do it, and that's what they said Sat. night and they didn't
t- do I have a time frame yes, but we'll see if it happens or not, everything is progressing toward that
t- not trying to let WF look bad, but whats said by other banks and their ppl, but at least the dinarians know ,  or is it something else and making it to look this way,  but other banks are waiting for WF to do something
c- truth to the rumor of another bank taking the lead
t- well it didn't happen
c- lots of folks keep saying they won't go to WF if they keep holding it up
t- guys, I don't know if that's a smart thing or not, you have choices, don't cut your nose off to spite your face, it has to be for a reason, if everyone is ready and the rate is there, if we are looking for a reason, none of the other banks have complained about ppl in their parking lots, but these sites pushed the group thing and China and made them a  target... but we are here now... i'd call all the banks, see where my best rate/scenario and exchangers and make my best decision
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c- with the ISX doing integration w/ NASDAQ, wouldn't their rate have to go live, in order to trade
t- I would think so, how can they trade on an INt'l board if they are not
c- hold up on that end?
t- I heard when ISX opened today
t- there is something we don't know it, ppl that are very high up that don't know it, and are involved w/ the process and don't know it,  something in DC and one group are frustrated w/ the other group, and can't pin point it, but feel they know what agency it is, and I don't know it for a fact and that agency says its not us,  that's where we are at
c- you got the info on the rate today
t- the rate didn't change all weekend
t- double digits for the dinar
t- over $2. for the dong

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c- rhetorical - why couldn't the bank that is holding it up, if its for security - like an airport,  re route the 888 callers to other locations, and if its hillbilly's in the parking lots, loitering laws,...have a waiting period in the gray bar motel
t- for one, they already did it, they offered them to leave and they refused to leave and demanded to exchange the dinar,  this hasn't been announced, they don't know the rate and we have to call the police to get them,  if it was 1 location and 3 days in a row, but now its 5 states and ppl are doing this, and it hasn't even begun, what does this mean
t- as of Thurs. they've authorized every bank to call the police and have ppl removed, local police are aware that they can be called in on those situations
t- they could move it away from the banks
t- you don't even know which banks to go to
t- each city has banks designated from 7am to 11 pm to take care of it, there are certain banks in the zip codes,  and these ppl don't know that, and you are assigned based on how much dinar you have,  so.... to go through all that and then they'll say you are at the wrong location... and ppl will be totally confused...
t- chaotic
c- have it in bank buildings..not banks...
t- that's where the majority will be going, some will actually be going to banks, but the majority will not
t- they are using locations other than banks
c- is there any drop dead on this
t- yeah but every time they drop dead they get revived
t- can it happen at a moments notice ? yes
t- going over the procedures again this morn.  are they doing it to do it? we'll know later.
next
c- on the dong, will you do the bank thing
t- havent' heard it from anyone, its Internationally traded
c- are there tiers
t- nope
c- not doing the dong till the IQD
t- thats my understanding
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c- SteveO, being selfish today, but I wanted to be on the last call before it RV's.
t- there you have it
c- one question, if there was a question we should ask you ? what would it be ?
t- don't really know....telling you all that i know, they already got called in today, not giving out the time they're giving this time,  not going to say it, everyone will watch the clock... could it happen in a moment, couple hours, there is one bank being blamed and don't know the reason behind it, and when I say everybody, every agency, every bank, its right there, we can see it
c- when it it most optimum for it to happen, when they open, when they close, east coast...
t- first thing in the morning, get as many in as they could, and if it were later, ppl just don't listen, don't call the banks, they call the banks, it will create more chaos,   they don't want anyone to have advantages, then i'd start when the east opens, but i hear it doesn't matter what time or day it is... and i like that, nothing should deter it...
c- if we wait for the opening of the banks, something could happen, just lets do it
t- they took away all the negatives,  the situation over there controlled, giving them the money and let them buy, took it down a couple notches, but globally, its sitting at the banks, using it on the global financial system...back door system... with that - don't do anything stupid... not going to help, there is a threat of some ppl going public - not you,  other ppl.
c- can't wait till your next call POST RV
t- you heard it from Steve O  live
lol

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c- the private exchange could happen w/ out an rv
t- anything is  possible, but is it  probable, not if they want to level the playing field, and get in 30 days, and hearing for years that the group will be paid first....
t- i wouldn't be concerned, if things are laid out like that, tell them, show me how you can back it up, its just noise unless they can show it, do they have an NDA.... don't give it to me afterwards, but you brought up groups - which you should never do w/ me
ie.  buy a car from me, don't tell your friends, but tell them to come here and buy a car, its the best deal ever and I can't give you any info
c- could the RV happen and the CBI not change the rates, quietly
t- sure they could, banks change the rate, and rates can be arbitrary, go to the US and exchange
t- TSA was notified on Friday, to confiscate any large sums of money, as of Friday....
t- they can't do that, now they can hold it, until you justify it,  there is an article on Yahoo,  2 girls driving down the street, and they had $1M in the trunk,  went to court, they Judge gave them back the money, couldn't prove it was drug money, and that was a year without the money,  not that it should, not that its legal, but... did hear about TSA on Friday
t- you can do what you want on your Private Plane.....
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c- the meeting between Putin and O, does it have to do w/ the ....WF
t- I don't think it does, there are other countries that need it besides Russia, can't say it for sure....
c- when it happens double digits... Iraq said they can support $14, but it would be a float, say it comes out at 10, then the rate will fluctuate up to 14, kinda don't make sense, doesn't make sense for it to come out in double digits
t- tell you this,  and clarify,  this would make sense to me, and love to see it, best case - see it at 3.44 and love for it to push up to the double digits and make alot of money on the way, but they don't want to, going there anyway
c- to close the opportunities
t- closed them, and ppl thinking of doing it, don't know if Tony knows what he's doing, so a bird in the hand, versus one in the bush,   what will happen when it hits Forex, the Funds, they can't invest ppl's money unless it is on the market, and where else can it go but up

TONY CC, PART 2, 12 AUGUST

t- they want you to get in and get out, move out the way, your life... ppl not involved don't know about it, they can cause total chaos in the market
c- part B is it that they are trying to push it, and then 30 days later, and hit them w/ the 2nd batch of currencies, not let everyone know,  you prolly have an idea, don't think they'll make it public to some ppl, , so they don't do what ppl did w/ the IQD
t- not going to happen, like I said what about the Indonesian Rupiah, sold out in 2 days, they're not telling me nothing till after the RV
t- he's absolutely right, it will not be like this again, the banking laws changed, they'll keep it quieter and quieter, no one wants a repeat of this
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c- STUDMUFFIN   HIPPAW  -  clarifications for me, dealers - got reserves, get my dong in hand, pay it off, and is there an advantage to lock it in, and re lock it
t- let me ask you something, did you call Sterling today
c- no
t- 5 min. before the call started, Frank called me ---what are you talking about safety net, he's been on the call 3 times and said it, and outrageous, and why would ppl call and question him about it
c- strategic advantage
t- no not you
c- why are ppl in the bank parking lots, they're not educated, ignorant, the banks - you say there is an 800 # and I can negotiate on our own, we have enough between us, Reserve and on Hand to be a group,  we don't have to go w/ a group
t- no, just go in and ask, who to talk to , go in and you just want your appt.
c- might look at the group rate, but want to see what I'd get
t- bank on Saturday said they'd negotiate
c- post #3
t- I'll post what I get, everyone can go to a branch and get the #
c- its a no brainer - if you have the reserves at the dealer, sit back and re lock, can't lose
t- safety net to me,
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c- do you have any contacts in Iraq that don't see a RV'd card
t- I do not, and they all have the rate of 3.44 and not one of them knows the other one
c - how can they keep selling it w/ all the rumors
t- they'll sell it till the rate changes on the CBI
t- they can only sell it, till what they have runs out, and then its over with
t- talking about the dealers
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c - did you play football
t- lol
t- yeah
c- they take niceness for softness....your team, Montana, your daughter,
c- is it based on tiers,
t- I will give it out after the RV is announced, but it absolutely is... can't give it out till then
c- Tony whats in your bench
t- in HS I weighed 150,  today 250,  I liked football, we have a great team,  think ppl are trying to understand...then some make me look bad, and stump him, but know this,  I can tell the truth,  and that, no banks, no exchangers paying me, I havent' made a deal to direct a group to go anywhere, but no one pays me, you don't pay me, so what motivation do I have to make things up,  don't understand,  and try to look at the other intel providers, who are trying to give the best info and get dogged for that... I'm a big boy...
c- super human
t- guys its not that, I'm not in competition, don't care who calls the RV, just someone call it, lol,  want to be done with it, and have Okie make his landing, and he gets beat up, down and sideways, he's doing the best he can,  what do you want him to do... he's not making it up, same as me, I think the ppl that are aligned w/ him and he talks to...and maybe ... I love SteveO, and MtnGoat, and she can say things that I can't say, recently got her Bio and know who she is and love it, and stepped out of the box, which isn't always a good thing on that level, but not saying my info is right, it is what it is,  but Montana, Already Blessed and what they do, can't give you all the intel ppl, but sticking their necks out, and feel a sense of obligation,  we do what they do, 
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c- wire transfers,  do you think a bank check to pay off the reserves is secure
t- I mentioned concerns, because someone that worked at the bank mentioned it, I've never had a wire lost, but she said she'd never do it, and always take a cashiers check
c- wires are system to system
c- someone speculated that if you negotiate as a group and it would be a private exchange and its a taxable situation
t - no, the group agreement, and the rate for them... doing something totally different, w/ somebody different,
c- dealers rates
t- competitive w/ the banks, could they possibly work it out, we'll have to wait and see
c- UST -- if they required them to sell it back to them
t- they might, if they made them that
c- don't want to ask your % of body fat
t- lol
c- God Bless and keep fighting the fight
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c - 3 weeks ago, in the middle of the week, when you said the reset was done, etc... and hoping for it to be Monday
c- don't believe WF is holding it up, but whats the situation w/ the other countries - have they started their exchange
t- don't know any other country's ,  133303 is about us,  and think they are waiting for it to be International,  get PM's all the time about other countries and how to exchange, know of a congressman, whose acct. in Sweden was credited... another got a loan against it, but are we at that level, no
c- do you see it going past Aug. and going into Sept.
t- I didn't see it getting to August first of all, hearing that the rate is live, no holds on it, no blinking about the change, just waiting for you to come to the bank, at any moment,  don't know what the hold up is,  WF is what I'm being told
t - you are saying its not WF, so what is it???
c- no, just that something else
c- all in the same boat
t- not trying to throw WF under the bus, but they need to come out and say its not us,  but that's what we've been told, right now they're taking the blame for it, I'm sure Pres. O is relieved, cause usually he's to blame
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c- is your wife anywhere around where she can hear the call
t- no, are you going to propose or what?
c- have you heard of the website   abundance now ?
t- no
c- blogtalkradio.com/abundancenow, and would like your wife to listen to this call, you are the example and its all about THE ART AND SCIENCE OF GIVING,  the way you have a following over night, because ppl trust you, and tell the truth,  and  treat us like we have a brain, and ppl become what you tell them you are
c- would like your wife to listen to this and you listen - it will validate you
c- how you give us a fighting chance to keep this money
c- blogtalkradio.com/abundancenow  done last Monday
c- are you exchanging all at one bank
t- here is the problem, I'm never going to tell my wife to listen to what you said,  she makes me take out the trash now, then she'll make me wash the car
c- talks about you being an honorable man
t- ok, here is my problem, with great power comes responsibility, great audience comes responsibility, and this is what I think of...my wife sent me a text, she's listening
t- I have a high threshold of pain, up and downs, and take chances that most don't take,  I want it to work out, but it doesn't always work out,  if I ever lost in biz. I've always lost more than anyone associated in the biz.  - if I told you what I was doing, and there are nuances,  a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing, you'd be at risk so much
c- here is the reason, if you go to the banks, they want to know how much dinar you have, if you don't want to put it all in one bank, but house it under the LLC, but at diff. banks, but how do you do that, to diversify
t- not giving anyone advice, this is what I would do
t- see if i could get the highest rate
t- cash all
t- wouldn't do anything that could restrict me or my money
t- bringing you the volume of money, they'll get interest on it, they're one of the 4 banks, and then diversify my money, and puts the private bankers, and wealth managers in competition with each other, divide it up, is what I'd do, and constantly put them in competition w/ each other, do I need to move, this is what I'm getting over there
c- use the LLC to keep from being tasked, but  now diversify
c- wire the money and the red flag
t- don't transfer more $500K
t- you might leave it there for the firs 60 days...
t- then diversify, banks offer diff. IPO's investments..
t- one wealth managers or a team to advise you
c- that leads me to the next ?
t- you got another question? lol
c- are the banks going to have a spread, they're getting a huge rate for the exchange, assume they want you to leave $ to do brokerage accts and charge huge fee's, when they get done... bottom line are you better off going to a dealer...they'll charge a certain amt. and your done
t- thats why you need to look before you leap, all that Glitters is Not Gold, they've been taught to not let the money walk out, if once you cash out, and bring the $$$ to a bank, its not about fee's - its about what are you going to give me... now we can offer you all these perks.....
t- its a diff. game
c- but while you are not looking they stab you in the bank, but post RV you'll give us the info
c- cause they wont' tell you
t- they wont' tell you, they got to make money
t- as long as you make some and I make some we  don't have a problem
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c- want to thank everyone from the team - trying for months to call you and been asked this a few times,  here in PR, we have a large dinar community, no WF here, what bank? What happens when we call the US?
t- what banks are there
c- ( she listed them )
t- don't know which ones, WF is not the only bank - not the only bank the UST wants you to go to, they don't want a bottleneck, all of the banks will have sister banks and join with, I'm sure you'll be able to find out who is in your area
c- fly w/ over 20K
t- you shouldn't have to
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c- you've said the ppl that give us info, and they're happy w/ what you tell us, and the comment about Okie, maybe ppl taking advantage, what if, this is like Mice in a Maze, on a bank level, its your fault - no your fault - but at the level above this, I heard the head of the G20 or G6 has control over it all and this particular person will never let it RV as it will bankrupt all these other countries, but at this point in time they are still negotiating w/ politicians...since it hasn't happened
t- who is this person
c- never given his name - head of the G20 and G6
c- he's reported he has stopped the trillions of dollars and stopped the Cabal
c- but he said it will never RV, they over printed the heck out of it
c - and horrendous tax rate
t- how we gonna have a tax if its never gonna happen
t- not laughing at you, but at the scenarios that are being said,  less than a dollar,  .10 cents,  or January or April of next year... why go through this, if they know that, they why not tell everyone ,  we can all see the G20 and the meetings are public, if someone had the authority to stop it, then they had the authority to not let it get this far, and not let the whole world involved and if they have the super powers then why wait till the last min. to use them,
c- collecting dinar - so now one can cash out
t- don't you see something wrong w/ that, but until this time they've been right,   everyone, until the RV happens
c- they can't hold up every country in the world
t- going to write your number down, but your anonymous...so either  you are part of the cabal, lol
c- you're doing a great job, just check 1 level up
t- going to do that

next
c- 15 questions for you, ready
t- no
c- can't wrap my mind around this, if there was such a rush and security was an issue and not have a mad rush on Friday - payday - how could they let the weekend pass, the slowest day was Sunday
t- someone told me that was the issue, if it was Thurs. there were ppl in the parking lot
t- Friday heard it was pay day, and after banking hours
t- was the prime time, after banking and until Monday morning, so why didn't it happen, it was a prime time, every bank had the ppl there except for one, and hopefully we get the answer today
c- you said about WF - blamed - but maybe not really them... Okie said he got a call that was stupendous...
t- up until that point, every bank said they were waiting until them, and when I put the post out that opened THE DAM and were notified that WF was putting the 8898#s out at 11pm, their own ppl got the word, and that it was done with at this time,  DC got the word and they're going to release it at this time and guess what - it didn't
t- again, between 1 and 4 this morning
t- still sitting here and don't know why not
t - there saying that they have to do something
c- can one bank control the world
t- don't know if its the one bank, but won't know till after its done,
c- makes no sense for it to be one bank
t- could be 4 Governments, we don't know
c- would like to connect after this , on the back side
t- you're close enough, I can see by your zip code, nothing we can do about it, but know about the world that we live in, some don't want to hear it, don't thing it will change our lives, as dinarians, but will affect whole lotta ppl

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c - worked in 35 diff. countries or more, specs, etc...
c- sure am glad my intel has been better than this dinar thing or I'd be bust long ago
c- traveling at all these countries, very disciplined, when you deal w/ the public, which WF does, they know  how crazy we are, robbed, they know this thing was coming a long time,  5 states, ppl in a parking lot, this is an excuse,  thats notiing once the rv is announced, they'll be deluged, they'll need ppl directing traffic in the parking lot, instant gratification in the USA
ie. how many ppl have called them in the last 3 years...
c- WF has a real understanding of what this is going to do, they're not stupid
t- I agree,  listen,  no one said that is what is holding up the RV, but its an issue they are dealing w/  5 states.. don't believe its the hold up on the boards,  we just said hey, they're changing security procedures, and asked ppl do not do that, no one said this is the reason, its something they're dealing with, but we dont' know what it is, they've announced several times since Thursday, sent out a mass text to their ppl all weekend long, gotta be there
c- WF is not a gov. they are a country, not one person can hold it up, like Maliki, can't see how one company in the US can do that - no sense
t- its doesn't make sense that those countries can be moving through them, or 4, 5 countries above them, saying don't do this, we don't know who is telling them, but we need them to do this before it goes....
c- oh, that makes more sense
t- we don't know the details
t- we know that WF has to do something, but every other bank and agency said its over there and they're not doing what they're supposed to be doing and everyone is getting mad
c- just cars in parking lots shouldn't stop the rv
t- no one said that it was
c- you got 12,000 out of 4 million
t- and that's part of the problem --how do we notify 4M, without notifying the other 100Million ppl,  if we have 300K on all the sites together and then w/ the right info, don't run down to the bank....
t- how do you get it out to the masses, should have done it years ago, this micro cosm in the 5 states,  but those that listen to Guru's
c- shouldn't be a revelation to them
c- dealing w/ the public and ppl that scratched together to buy a handful of dinar
t- I agree, but that is where we are... should have had a system, but they spent too much time denying it was going to happen, instead of putting a plan together, said they'd post a number
next
c- whats going on w/our good buddy Okie, done and nuff said finished
t- Okie was hearing the exact same thing
t- lots of intel ppl telling you, everybody was getting the same info, and this was the last straw,  WF even announced to their ppl that they were given a deadline, and told them its over, but something happened, beyond their control or not, don't know yet
t- its Monday morning,  don't think he's being Malicious, excited and ready to go, its the reality of this situation, everyone is frustrated, everyone I called, the boards are frustrated and all we can do is go forward w/ more info this afternoon, clarification, its right at the doorstep and we know that, they wouldn't have called their ppl in and made them stay, not just one bank
all the banks,  they told them on Friday, go home and and come back on Monday, all the banks but WF, and WF brought all their ppl in, the rest of the banks sent their ppl home, and on  Sunday they called them in and said you have 30 min. to get here, they're not doing it to do it, but because they thought something was going to happen

next
c-group tiers, maybe those with less get more,  ( giving a math example )
c- what is to keep you from taking in all
t- you can only use the rate once
c- so whats to keep me from giving some to my wife....and get
t- use any strategy you want, once you find out
c- wouldn't that create a bottleneck
t- maybe that's why they don't want everyone to know
c- ppl are going to know
c- doesn't make sense to me
t- anyone can split it up
t- and what are the ramifications, ie. 100M and the most of it on level 1 and you split it up
- you, wife and 2 kids, but to get the rate, they hold 20%, so times that by 4 of you, and now each one of you have to pay a tax, can't transfer, 13,000, gift tax on top and the brokerage acct.  you have to look at the whole picture
t- there are a bunch of ppl that put the group together, terms you don't know about, a rate you don't know about and competition w/ the street rate
READING A TEXT
2 more calls
Pam told me I have to get off the call
the transcribers are tired
want to thank them
c- the WF hold up deal, this is the USA correct?
c- you each own a grocery store in a natural disaster
c- you and I have Mom and Pops
c- your brother has the big store
c- are you going to sell groceries or wait for your brother
t- well are you under martial law or not
c- no
t- they may say , you wait till there are enough stores,  peaceful and quit
c- small town situation
c- dont' they care what WF has to do w/ it
t- they're being told we are waiting on WF
t- not that the UST is making them wait, but all banks are under the UST
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c- gm
c- just a thought here, re: what Okie said on Friday night, is it possible that he got a call,
t- he got a call, don't usually speak for other ppl, he got beat up pretty bad,  said its all over, today, and that's what he was told, a whole bunch of ppl were told the same...
c- if my memory serves me correctly, you have deadlines data
t- told Sat. at 11pm and told they completed it and the other banks were told it would go live-
yet, here we sit

ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THEY ARE TYRING TO GET IT DONE
AND WHATEVER THE SUPER SECRET SITUATION IS THAT WE ARE WAITING FOR
THE RELEASE WAS GIVEN AT 7PM THURS
IF WE GET SOMETHING
I'LL GET A BLAST OUT
IF ITS THE REAL THING
SEND OUT A TEXT
ENJOY YOUR DAY
WILL SAHRE WITH ALL
ENJOY YOUR DAY

STEVEO POST, 12 AUGUST

SteveO: I know a whole lot of you are waking up in amazement that this hasn't happened yet ( I am one of those people too). DO NOT be discouraged we are right there. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it's not going to happen, IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN!! Today could even be our day. 

OKIEOILMAN UPDATE, 12 AUGUST

[..OKIEOILMAN] TODAY IS NOT OVER YET BUT GETTING LATER BY THE MINUTE. LAST THURSDAY NIGHT THE R/V OCCURED AND THE RATES WERE RELEASED TO THE BANKS. 

THE OTHER MAJOR BANKS ARE READY TO EXCHANGE NOW BUT FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON WELLS FARGO AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS HOLDING THE PROCESS UP. (TEMPORARILY OR NOT I DON'T KNOW)

 I WAS INFORMED SATURDAY NIGHT WE WOULD ALL BE IN THE BANKS TODAY---WELL???--I KNOW YOU ARE DISAPPOINTED AND SO AM I. 

I FURNISH YOU WITH THE LATEST INFORMATION AVAILABLE BUT CANNOT CONTROL WHEN THE ACTUAL RELEASE WILL BE GIVEN. 

IT IS ENTIRELY IN THE HANDS OF THE BANKS. I WILL NOT FURNISH ANY FURTHER INFORMATION PENDING ACTIVATION BECAUSE OF INCORRECT INTEL OR UNKNOWN DELAYS UNKNOWN TO ME. 

IT IS OUT OF MY HANDS.I STILL FEEL IT'S VERY CLOSE BUT WILL NOT GET ANYONE EXCITED OVER PHONE CALLS I RECEIVE TELLING ME THE DATE OF RELEASE. 

I MAKE NO APOLOGIES FOR OTHERS THAT ARE CAUSING ANY DELAYS. I AM ONLY A MESSENGER---BLESSINGS

LOECHIN UPDATE, 12 AUGUST

8/12/2013 7:05 AM EDT loechin] As of 8:45 no more info will be come from loechin.....

7:14 AM [hepner] loechin I am not sure I understand. Can you tell us why?...

[loechin] hepner It's all good as you will see...7:06 am edt 


[hlrive] loechin normally people get quiet you know when they know something is about ready to happen that will blow peoples minds 7:07 AM

[loechin] hlrive Remember the game BINGO 7:07 AM

[loechin] hlrive Enough said

GENERALS64 CHAT FROM MIG FORUM, 12 AUGUST

MIG:
[greyhawk] generals64 were they really in the parking lot to your knowledge or just another storytell?

[generals64] CLUBBER3:...I don't know, I do now that there are people hanging around the bank and they are being talked to for Security reasons......They still don't understand that they will NOT be the first one even if they are there....Why?....Because they have to have an appointment. W/O an appointment they will get the street rate (NOT GROUP RATE).

[ono62] generals64 serious question..any possible scenario that you can think of to postpone this rv/ce 'till next year ?

[generals64] I tried to explain it to some "Redneck" in Virginia last night....I finally asked him How much was a 6-pack of Beer where he lives?....Answer $5.99........I then asked him how much was a single?....$2.00....I then told him that was considered "GROUP LEVERAGE".

[generals64] ono62 :...Nah.....this should be just about over for real

[ono62] generals64 ty

[clubber3] generals64 do we know who is in charge of this Iraq or whomever
[generals64] clubber3 :...Doesn't matter is now officially in charge....Guarantee

[generals64] Just so you guys/gals know, our group is solid as a rock....There are people trying to stir us up...(we're like family) won't work....there have been people try to buy the email list......Not For Sale....as a matter of fact it is set so tht when this is over it is completely purged and destroyed

[goin4broke] generals64 good morning. Funny how people will smack talk knowing nothing. Do you think cash ins will only be in big cities?

[generals64] goin4broke :...Not really I know there is a large amount of locations. Bad Grammar...

 [Kate1951] generals64 Can I give the number to a friend? He does not get on chat or anything. He was a contractor in Kuwait and is home now. He thinks this is ready to pop.

 [generals64] Kate1951 :...I am not telling you to do that....If he has an email then sign him up...there is not cost...or anything.....But, I think when it really happens the (the BANKS) anticipate some of that going on. The only thing is if he calls without an email he won't be considered a member of the group.....That is why there is a better rate...Make sense???

[Kate1951] generals64 yes, I was just wanting to know. I'll get on him.

[generals64] I will tell you guys/gals this....95% of what is being told is poo..........I don't care if you believe me cause theres not a lot of the people out there will tell you they talk to their dog everyday...

[Jane] Well isn't this a treat...getting to see the general this morning....

[generals64] Jane :...General didn't get to go to sleep last night.

[Allbut6] generals64 I have been receiving emails from kcmana for awhile, my question is since they redid the email list several days ago, I have not received any emails. Do you know when the next update is going to be sent out?

[Allbut6] generals64 just wanted to make sure I'm still on the list..

[generals64] Allbut6 :...If you didn't unsubscribne you're still there.....That list is protected like Fort Knox...

[generals64] .We have a Military computer Analyst that watches it daily...

[greyhawk] Allbut6 Her last update was 7/9 and stated it was being changed to quarterly and the next update will be October, unless something changed. Hope that helps.

[generals64] Seems yesterday someone was making ridiculous threats towards me and making really bad statements that I did this and that and that the leadership was doing this and that and that she knew for sure that I signed a contract....."Hogwash".....No one gets anything extra except all the harassment we have received. I didn't sign anything except for the dinar when Fed-Ex delivered it....and I will meet that person anywhere they want and prove them wrong....Folks the only thing I have to hide is the story I told you guys that Roscoe talks to me daily....He can't really talk....

[generals64] Well, its time to take Roscoe to his Yoga Class....He has an image he has to keep up. When my wife first made his appointment, I thought he was going to a yodel class...Told her that dog can't sing. She then explained it was Yoga....He is attempting to make his physique and appearance in perfect shape for his rendevous with all you guys....He's thinking a Pawtographed picture will bring a big box of Milk Bones.

[generals64] Now here comes the image:.....Are you ready?........He weighs 105 pounds...He is white with black spots and one Black eye. He is half Pit Bull and half American Bull and full of BUll S. (oh, that's me). The picture has him in a Chaise lounge chair with his Leopard Print Speedo and his Knock Off Oakley Sun Glasses with a spit cup beside him (dog has no class).

[generals64] later:.........love ya all and just stay calm...Promise when the email is sent I will come in here and answer any questions I can....FAir????

[greyhawk] generals64 fair enough!!

[sisterbreen] generals64 ty

[Watercolorist] generals64 Thanks!

[generals64] I'M Generals64 and Roscoe and I approve this message....We're gone with the speed of light and a hardy....shut up Roscoe....

EXOGEN UPDATE, 12 AUGUST

DIRECT INTEL AT 11:58 AM EST (WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW) Posted byEXOGEN on August 12, 2013 at 11:58am

1. IF YOU ARE IN A GROUP TECHNICALLY IT IS NOT AN EXCHANGE, IT'S A PRIVATE PLACEMENT BUY BACK OF YOUR IQD AT A HIGHER RATE OR LEVERAGED CAPITALIZATION STRATEGY BY THE COUNTRY THAT PURCHASES ITEMS FROM THE UST DIRECT, WHO ALSO BUYS THE BULK OF THE OIL IN IRAQ

2. IF YOU ARE IN A GROUP, THE EXCHANGE IS NOT CONTINGENT UPON AN RI OR AN RV DUE TO IT BEING A PRIVATE PLACEMENT. A GROUP EXCHANGE CAN TAKE PLACE JUST LIKE THE OIL CONTRACTORS WERE PAID WITH THE F.R.A'S ALREADY AT $3.44  THIS IS ALSO THE SAME METHOD THAT HAS BEEN USED TO MONETIZE SKR'S

3. IF YOU ARE IN A GROUP, YOUR EXCHANGE IS NOT CONTINGENT UPON THE CBI RATE ADJUSTING, OR STABILITY IN THE COUNTRY OF IRAQ.

4. IF YOU ARE IN A GROUP THE PRIVATE PLACEMENT BUY BACK OF YOUR CURRENCY CAN TAKE PLACE AT ANY MINUTE THE BUYER IS READY, AND IT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH GLITCHES, BANKS NOT READY, & ALL THE DELAYS YOU HEAR ABOUT.

5. THE ENTITY FACILITATING THE PRIVATE PLACEMENT IS 100% READY AND THE PROCESS CAN NOT AND WILL NOT BE STOPPED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.

GO RV!!!   EXO

---------------
IF ANYONE SENDS YOU A LETTER WRITTEN BY OKIE TO SEND TO WELLS FARGO
VIA FAX OR EMAIL, DO NOT SEND THE LETTER OR CONTACT WELLS FARGO. IT
WILL ONLY DELAY THE PROCESS WE ARE WAITING FOR.
GO RV!!
EXO

JESTER CHAT , 12 AUGUST

[Jester] HELLO EVERYONE!

[DanaB] Jester hope that we will be able to contact you post RV. I live in sw Va not too far.

 [Jester] DanaB I WILL BE RIGHT HERE...GOD WILLING AND THE CREEK DON'T RISE... NOT WORRRIED ABOUT GOD BUT THE MONSOON WE HAD TODAY MAKES ME QUESTION THE CREEK... LOL

[patsiayn] What do you have to share with us tonight? What did you think of Zap's post?

[Jester] patsiayn IT IS NO SECRET THAT I LIKE ZAP... HE SAYS A LOT OF THE THINGS IN THAT POST THAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET OUT ABOUT THE PROCESS... BUT HE DID IT IN A LOT LESS WORDS... LOL

[wenwebb] Jester can you break down Zap's post for us

[Jester] wenwebb LOT'S OF GOOD NEWS FOR US .... AND HE IS TELLING IT RIGHT IN MY OPINION...

[Stellar] Jester, Zap seems to think Sept. and it sounds as if Okie thinks sooner than that. What do you think? TY
[Jester] Stellar I BELIEVE HE ALSO SAID COUND HAPPEN ANY TIME AS WELL... BUT THEY ARE WANTING TO MAKE SURE IT IS ALL READY TO GO FOR MAXIMUM EFFECTIVENESS... AND I THINK HE IS RIGHT ABOUT THAT PART... FROM WHAT I SEE THAT IS THEIR MOST IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION...

[VenusVisitor] jester over the weekend I didn't see any news, are you in the boat of no news is good news. Or did I miss something?

[Jester] VenusVisitor WELL I CAN VERIFY THAT IT WAS A PRETTY SLOW WEEKEND... BUT SOME THINGS ARE ALSO NOT THE WAY WE SEE THEM FROM OTHERS REPORTS... SO HARD TO SEPARATE THE WHEAT FROM THE CHAFF SOMETIMES... I STILL LOOK FOR THE INDICATORS OF THE THINGS WE KNOW NEED TO HAPPEN... AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THEM HAPPEN YET...

[sandytob] Jester So you are not looking for this this week?

[Jester] sandytob I AM STILL LOOKING FOR CERTAIN THINGS TO BE DONE... THAT IS WHY I DON'T DO RATE AND DATE... GOOD WAY TO GET CAUGHT IN A BAD DECISION...

[IradMax] Jester do you think the part about Sept is a little smoke to keep people from waiting in parking lots? Just a thought.

[Jester] IradMax WELL THOSE PEOPLE OUGHT TO HAVE MORE SENSE... THEY ARE NOT BEING PART OF THE SOLUTION THAT IS FOR SURE...

[Patriot] [chaliceman] Jester, Zap's article referred to 5 elders swiping cards in Reno to initiate the GCR. Do these 5 include your 3?

[Jester] Patriot WELL THE ELDERS ARE SEPARATE... THEY ARE THERE FOR THEIR OWN SPECIFIC PURPOSES... I DON'T THINK THEY ARE THERE TO 'SWIPE' ANYTHING... MORE TO MAKE SURE THINGS GO THE WAY THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO... ALTHOUGH THEY ARE CERTAINLY IN CHARGE OF THE PROCESS...

[emeralddave] Jester If you are looking for certain things to be done-why are not other intel providers understanding and looking also?

[Jester] emeralddave SOME DO... BUT NOT MANY OF THEM RE POSTING... I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE THE SAME INFORMATION WE DO...

[siskhyder] Jester. What is okie seeing that makes him think tonight is the night?

[Jester] siskhyder WELL.... SAME THING THAT MADE HIM THINK THE NIGHT BEFORE I GUESS.... WE ARE HEARING ALL THAT TOO BUT I KNOW WE STILL HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT NEED TO GET INTO PLACE AND THEY ARE NOT THERE YET...

[sandytob] Jester Wow, the Chinese elders are really in Reno? I thought Zap was being metaphorical.

[Jester] sandytob INTERESTING ISN'T IT?

[nuccia123] Jester,, with all due respect, and I do respect your opinion....there is so much conflict from what you say and what other Intels are saying, including Okie...how can it be so different? it is very confusing on who/what to beleive

[Jester] nuccia123 IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT WAY... WHAT CAN I SAY? IT IS WHAT IT IS...

 [emeralddave] Jester Anyone thought of just letting this thing flow and stop posting intel-it might come faster

[Jester] emeralddave THERE AER CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE BETTER LEFT UNDSAID... BUT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH LETTING YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON TO THE EXTENT THAT IT DOES NOT HURT ANY SECURITY ISSUES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT...

 [airam] jester so talking about September is the most accurate guess??

[Jester] airam AS HE SAID... IT COULD STILL HAPPEN AT ANY TIME... AND HE IS TALKING ABOUT SEPTEMBER FOR THE FIRST HISTORIC ASSET REDEMPTIONS... WITH THE RV HAPPENING "MORE OR LESS" THE SAME TIME... I THINK MAYBE LESS BUT THAT IS MY OPINION...

[tampa---dd] Jester I got confused with the first part of that post being like a "any minute now" type post and the last part pointing at September "more or less" .. it seemed like two separate posts IMO

[Jester] tampa---dd I THINK HE IS POINTING OUT THAT IT COULD GO AT ANY TIME.... AND WHEN THEY GET READY IT WILL HAPPEN JUST LIKE THAT...

[paul] Jester...I just got back in here so if you answered this question I am sorry... I was wondering if you could say anything about the 5 old men that Zap was talking about that had to swipe their cards

[Jester] paul BEST TO JUST LEACE IT AS IMPORTANT PEOPLE OVERSEEING THE PROCESS...

[jam777] Jester ... am I correct in assuming the guys that you need to see in position for an RV ... can get there in under an hour from notification ?

[Jester] jam777 WELL... WILL TAKE A BIT LONGER THAN THAT FOR ONE... LONG FLIGHT... THE OTHERS ARE CLOSE...

[sandytob] Jester do you still feel that we have to see announcements pre RV? MarkZ had said last week that they would be post RV.

[Jester] sandytob I BELIEVE THEY WILL BE VERY CLOSE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER... BUT I AM HEARING THAT THE ONES THAT ARE WANTING THEM WANT THEM BEFORE SO NOONE CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND ABOUT DOING IT...

[Talldriver] Jester... I know you don't do date and rate. Tony has been saying double digits for rv. Do you agree with that Intel or is it smoke? Ty sir.

[Jester] Talldriver WE BEEN SEEING THE SAME RATES FOR WEEKS ON THE BANK SCREENS AND FOREX... AND THE RATES ARE IN THE RANGE OF KUWAIT... SO I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT INFORMATION IS COMING FROM...

[Jester] Talldriver I COULD GIVE YOU THE RATE TO 6 SIGNIFICANT DIGITS ON THE BANK SCREENS AND FOREX BUT IT IS NOT A GOOD IDEA TO DO THAT IN AN OPEN FORUM... THAT IS WHY I DON'T...

[Shivohm] Jester any insights iinto zap's post today about "unfortunately, not all proponents of the new systems are in agreement, and they too are trying to position themselves for maximum gain instead of plowing through the whole thing and just get it done and move on. "

[Jester] Shivohm YES I BELIEVE THERE IS A LOT OF JOCKEYING FOR POSTION GOING ON... AND THAT IS PART OF THE ISSUE...

[Shivohm] Jester TY. Follow-on question. Is this jockeying potentially a delay possibility or a worst the end of this whole project?

[Jester]  CERTAINLY NOT THE END... AND YOU GUYS THINK OF IT AS A DELAY BECAUSE OF ALL THE PEOPLE CALLING IT AND THEN IT DOESN'T HAPPEN... IT IS A PROCESS AND IT JUST ISN'T FINISHED YET...

[Grunt0311] Jester I THINK A GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT THE PROCESS ASPECT IS THE SAME WAY ALL OF OUR GOOD FRIENDS HERE NEED TO LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL PROJECTS THEY WANT TO DO AFTER THE RV. THEY ALL HAVE AN IDEA, FROM THERE THEY NEED TO DEVELOP A BUSINESS PLAN, AND GO THROUGH ALL OF THE STEPS SUCH AS PRO FORMAS, DRAW SCHEDULE, DESIGN, PROTOTYPE (IN SOME CASES), SO ON AND SO FORTH... AND THIS ALL HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE THEY CAN EVER GET STARTED ON THE PROJECT. IT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE TO START THE PROJECT BEFORE ALL WAS IN PLACE

[Jester] Grunt0311 GOOD POST MY FRIEND... WE HAVE BEEN POSTING FOR SOME TIME THE PROCESS IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING... JSUT AS YOU SAY... AND IT WILL BE FINISHED WHEN ALL THE STEPS ARE COMPLETED... AND NOT BEFORE...

[FredId] Jester could this RV without the other parts being finished?:?

[Jester] FredId THE RESET ID FOR THE WORLD... THE RV IS PART OF THAT... ONE CANNOT GO WITHOUT THE OTHER...

[RV4life] Jester is there really 5 key "Elders" in Reno kicking the Rv GCR off ?...

[Jester] RV4life BEEN THERE FOR SOME TIME.. AND I WOULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BUT SINCE IT IS ALREADY OUT THERE I GUESS IT IS NOW COMMON KNOWLEDGE...

[sandytob] Jester Lots of folks are probably going to fly to Reno to look for them now, lol.

[sandytob] I would if I have the money.

[Jester] sandytob YEP... EXACTLY THE REASON I WOULDN'T HAVE PUT THAT OUT THERE... LOL

[Shivohm] Grunt0311 I have managed international projects before (Y2K) and have lived program amangement so I understand the MAGNITUDE of this undertaking and am amazed at the over-simplification going on at every step!

[Grunt0311] Shivohm WELL THEN, WITH THAT IN MIND, CAN YOU IMAGINE TRYING TO EXPLAIN EVERY ASPECT OF THE KIND OF PROJECTS YOU WERE INVOLVED IN TO A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO AREN'T GENERALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE TERMINOLOGY, OR THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, AND OH, BY THE WAY, YOU ALSO CAN'T GIVE OUT ANY OF THE SENSITIVE DETAILS. HOW MUCH DO YOU FIGURE IS LEFT TO ELABORATE ON? :)

[TnBikerGal] Jester sweetie... I'm getting my feelings hurt! lol Can you explain what Okie is referring to when he says ISX or ICX replacing the current forex?

[Jester] TnBikerGal WOULD TAKE A WHILE... THE ISX IS THE IRAQI EXCHANGE... THE ICX IS A NEW COINAGE THEY AREUSING FOR THE UPGRADED FOREX FOR SOME REASON... NOT SURE WHY... THAT IS NEW...

[Shirley] Jester, well its just like housework.......you gotta just dig in someplace and get started. I do not buy all this messing around, and all the secrecy. Problem was when they decided to do a zillion all at once in one basket, instead of a MANAGEABLE 30 or so.

[Jester] Shirley THE SYSTEM IS WORLD WIDE... HOW CAN YOU FIX PART OF IT AND EXPECT IT TO WORK RIGHT WITH PART OF IT BROKEN? THEY HAVE TO CLEAN IT ALL UP AT ONCE IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE WORTH THE EFFORT... OTHERWISE THE ONES LEFT WILL BE IN A POSTION TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION...

[sixpack] Jester seems like there might be a concerted effort to specifically confuse the bad guys by putting out conflicting info...in order to snare them?

[Jester] sixpack DISTINCT POSSIBILITY... ENTERTAIN THE THOUGHT THAT KEEPING EVERYTHING IN AN UPROAR AND GETTING PEOPLE TO CAMP OUT AT BANKS AND CAUSE TROUBLE... WORRY THE BANKS TO NO END... WOULD THAT NOT BE CAUSE FOR CONCERN?

[tinmouse41] Jester when the rv finally occurs will there be any way to check the rate other than through the banks.

[Jester] tinmouse41 THE RATES ON ALL THEIR SREENS SHOULD BE THE SAME... THEY ARE NOW... NEGOTIATING MAY BE POSSIBLE... BUT NOT TO THE EXTENT OF THE EMAIL GROUP ALREADY SET UP FOR YOU IN MY OPINION...

[Shirley] . nope no more rope for me........playing this ''donkey and carrot game'' is not my cup of tea.......Ring me when you got a Definite. (Thats how we accountant types are. Definite and for sure)

[dsm57] Shirley been doing this for 7 years now, and I'm amazed at the tall stories on a daily basis, can't fool an ol cop

[Shirley] dsm57, yes and the stories get taller by the week........

[Jester] Shirley THINK GLOBAL RESET... MORE COMPLICATED THAT ANY ACCOUNTING YOU HAVE EVER SEEN... 192 CURRENCY ADJUSTMENTS... BALANCING GOLD AND ASSETS TO SET THE VALUSE... TREATIES TO MAKE SURE FIAT CURRENCIES OUT THERE DO NOT FOLD AND HURT ANY COUNTRIES OR GOOD PEOPLE... AND HUNDREDS IF NOT THOUSANDS OF OTHER CONSIDERATIONS... LIKE A REPUBLIC TO MAKE US SAFE HERE... AND GET US BACK TO THE WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE... BELIEVE IT IF YOU WANT OR NOT... IT IS WHAT IT IS.... BUT IT IS ANYTHING BUT SIMPLE...

[Moonview] Jester * Have you heard this WHOLE THING refered to as "THE EVENT" ??? Where the whole system shuts down for 3-7 days and people cant go to banks and can only use the cash they have on hand. Then the system is reset and the bad guys have it taken from them and THEN the RV happens. What do you think of this senerio that is widely talked about?

 [Jester] Moonview I DON'T THINK THAT IS THEIR INTENTION...

[RV4life] Jester you backing Okie and TNT posts tonight?

[Jester] RV4life YOU BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME I HAVE BEEN POSTING HAVEN'T YOU? IT SHOULD BE CLEAR WHAT I THINK BY NOW...

[1212] Jester - Do u think all of this has a good chance of being completed in 2013 ?

[Jester] 1212 OH YEAH... I DO...

[Shivohm] Jester I buy everything you said to Shirley but it is difficult to imagine this humongous program being rolled out without some sort of a PMO? Why hasn't this PMO not being active in educating the public? Who is running this show?

[Jester] Shivohm THAT IS WHAT THE ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE ABOUT... WE ARE ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THEM...

[Jester] OK... TIME TO CALL IT A NIGHT... ROOM IS ABOUT TO CLOSE... I HOPE YOU ALL HAD A GOOD TIME AND YOU WILL COME BACK AGAIN SOON...

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