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Saturday, August 10, 2013

MORE UPDATES OF POPPY3, 10 AUGUST

08/10/13 [poppy3] i wanted to just come in for a minute and let everyone know i just got a very promissing call further conmfirming that the release will take place on or before the 15th if the schedule stays the same and there are no further complications. He said he doesn't think the bad that maliki is trying to cause will hold the rv up this time. He works in a bank in bagdad and he says they have been informed that they have a 15th aug deadline and they like us feel it will begin with the rv. This is the latest and most direct news i have recieved. He said he has no further information about the cards and that all he has been told about are like i reported earlier yesterday that only military and goi families have them and they have been charged. Remember what i said about that senario and what i thought it could cause. If i get more later tonight i will be back if not talk to you guys after church tomorrow. Poppy3

BANK STORY OF KARYNMARIE IN CA; " IM SO EXCITED!!", 10 AUGUST

BANK Story today 8-10-13:I am so excited!! KarynMarie in CA just called me about her friend going to the bank at 1:30 this afternoon.He went in to inquire about his "investment"and talked to a brand new Private Banker, recently hired.

The young man asked,"Are you talking about the Iraqi Dinar??""Why yes,"Her friend replied.The banker pulled him into a private room and said,"You know it's RV'd Right?"Her friend responded with,"Im hoping-that's what we are hearing.""Well, it has-but there are security issues in North Carolina."

 Then they discussed exchanging the dinar and if that bank would be participating?The banker assured him they were and would love to have him come there.Her friend said he didn't want to stand in any lines...that another bank offered him $2.50 above street rate, would they be able to match that? 

The banker responded, "That shouldn't be a problem and we will be happy to negotiate..." He gave her friend his business card and asked him to call when it goes live.So there you go!HOW AWESOME!!!

TONY'S SATURDAY CC NOTES, 10 AUGUST

THIS IS TNT DINAR'S Call Notes for SPECIAL SATURDAY --AUGUST 10, 2013 at 1pm EST and I apologize for anything missing.    GREAT GREAT CALL!!!!!!

WE HAVE NEW PHONE NUMBERS ---- 209-255-1500 Q & A  ---- 518-556-1500 Listen ONLY

THESE NEW HIGH VOLUME LINES WILL HOLD 5000 PEOPLE SO NO RUSH TO GET ON EARLY!

Always keep in mind, that this is what I heard and transcribed.   It's Tony's info and opinion - based on what he's received via sources in the Dinar community and the World.

Feel free to always verify what you hear, and do your own due diligence.  

Thank you for being a part of TNT DINAR.

Have a great day!   :)   Montana
TNT TONY ON SATURDAY AUGUST 10, 2013

GOOD MORNING GOOD MORNING GOOD MORNING!!!

GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY - (RayRen)

ITS SAT. THE 10TH OF AUGUST….ITS GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING DAY

ONCE AGAIN….INTERESTING DAY

GOING TO TALK FAST…BE SPECIFIC…THE RADIO SCHEDULED FOR 1 HOUR

WE'LL TAKE A FEW QUESTIONS…TAKE CARE OF THE ADMIN STUFF FIRST

AND ITS ADMIN FOR YOU GUYS…SOME MAY NOT LIKE THE FIRST PART OF THE CALL

BUT WILL LOVE THE 2ND PART

I NEED EVERYONE HERE TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING

GIVING YOU THE INFO AS I GET IT…GIVING YO EVERYTHING

LETTING YOU WALK IN MY FOOTSTEPS, PRACTICALLY

GO THROUGH THE UPS AND DOWNS TOGETHER AND EVERYTHING ELSE

THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING

THE CALLS I GET…THE INFORMATION

WHERE IT FITS…WHY WE ARE AHEAD OF SOME…AND THINGS HAPPENING

THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED….AND ARE WAITING TO HAPPEN

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I NEED TO ADDRESS THE BANKING SITUATION

I GOT CALLS THIS MORN. FROM PPL..THIS MORN. W/ INFO

I GOT CALLS FROM OUR GOV…AND GOV. OFFICES AND LOCATIONS

YOU KNOW THAT SINCE I'VE BEEN UP HERE AND THAT MY NAME WAS MENTIONED IN THE PENTAGON

THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT I SHOULDN'T HAVE SAID.

EVIDENTLY,THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME

GOT CALLS FROM SENATORS,  CONGRESSMEN OFFICES

GETTING INFO FROM THERE..EVERY LETTER AGENCY…PPL THAT I TALK TO

LISTED ON MY PH. DIAL…EVERY LETTER AGENCY

AND IN POSITIONS YOU WOULDN'T BELIEVE

I CAN HARDLY BELIEVE IT MYSELF

I BELIEVE THEM

I'VE HAD BACK GROUND CHECKS BY AT LEAST 3 OF THEM THAT I KNOW OF

THEY ARE FULLY AWARE OF WHO I AM

CALLS ARE BEING LISTENED TO BECAUSE THEY TOLD ME…THEY LISTEN IN MEETINGS

NOT JUST ME…OTHER CALLS TO

NOT PRETENDING THAT ITS JUST ME…NOT ON A PEDESTAL

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT IS MENTIONED

AND I WILL TELL YOU THE STUFF THAT IS GOING ON AND THEY KNOW WHERE IT IS COMING FROM

AND WHEN I GET THROUGH…TELLING YOU FOR A REASON

I'M GIVING YOU ALL OF THE INFO…ALL OF IT…YOU'RE SMART ENOUGH TO MAKE YOUR OWN DECISIONS

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WE TALKED ABOUT THE EXCHANGERS FOR A WHILE

AND THE PRO'S AND CONS AND PERSONALLY IF THE RATE COMES OUT LIKE I'M HEARING

THEY WILL HAVE THE SAME RATE

AND THAT DOESN'T PUT THEM OUT OF THE PIC

WE TALKED ABOUT USING THEM

THE SAFETY NET THAT STERLING WAS OFFERING THAT I COULDN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT

AND THAT'S STILL THEIR PLAN….STILL OFFERING THE SAFETY NET…SOME OF YOU SHOULD STILL USE IT

IT WILL BE BETTER THAN ANYTHING YOU CAN NEGOTIATE YOURSELF

THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE BANKS, AND THE OPTIONS

AT THE BANKS ARE THAT YOU CAN GO IN YOURSELF AND MAKE YOUR OWN BEST DEAL

YOU CAN GO IN A AS FAMILY GROUP, LOCAL GROUP AND DO THAT

OR SIGN UP WITH ONE OF THE OTHER GROUPS- OUT HERE

THAT PPL ALREADY CREATED , AND GO IN THERE & TAKE THE DEAL THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU

YOU CAN GO TO ONE BANK OR YOU CAN CALL ALL THE BANKS

AND FIND OUT WHAT THE BEST RATE IS & GO ON YOUR OWN …OPTIONS…WHAT FITS BEST FOR YOU

THIS IS WHAT I DON'T LIKE….THERE IS ONE GROUP OUT THERE

THAT KEEP GETTING INFO FROM THIS ONE GROUP

AND ITS THE WRONG INFO -- I JUST SAID THAT

AND THEY ARE PUTTING OUT INFO TRYING TO WORD IT AND GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT ITS  THE TRUTH

I DON'T MIND, EVERYONE DO THEIR OWN THING

BUT I DO MIND THAT THEY ARE TELLING ME THAT WHAT I'M SAYING IS A LIE

OR THAT I TELL THEM  WHAT IM GETTING DIRECT FROM THE BANK

AND THEY MISINTERPRETING IT TO YOU

AND THEN I KNOW THEY KNOW BETTER

AND I'M TALKING TO THE BANK

I'M DISCUSSING  THE GUY YOU ARE GOING TO CALL AND HOW ITS GOING TO GO

I'M DISCUSSING WHEN YOU CALL THE # AND WHAT THEY ARE TRAINED TO DO

DON'T TELL ME ITS WRONG

WHEN THEY TELL ME THAT ITS THE PROCEDURES THAT THEY'VE BEEN TOLD TO FOLLOW

THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT WRONG

I'M ONLY SAYING THIS FOR ONE REASON…I LOOK ON THE BOARDS AND PPL SAYING TONY IS A BIG BOY

AND HE CAN PROTECT HIMSELF ,,,,AND NOT PUT HIS FAMILY IN HARM…AND I ABSOLUTELY AM NOT

AND THERE IS SOME PEOPLE IN A GROUP THAT IS SENDING ME A MESSAGE THAT I'M STEPPING ON PPL'S TOES AND WANT TO WARN YOU

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT…DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT…NOT CONCERNED WITH IT

IF I'M DOING SOMETHING SO WRONG OR RIGHT… WHY ARE THEY SO WORRIED….WHY ARE THEY SO CONCERNED

THERE ARE OVER 4 M. PPL TODAY WHO HAVE DINAR IN THE US.....OVER 4M.

THEY SAY THEIR GROUP IS 40, 50 100K

THERE ARE OVER 4M

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WHY ARE YOU SO CONCERNED  THAT I'M TELLING THE TRUTH

THERE ARE ONLY 12K ON MY CALL….I ONLY HAVE 12,000 SIGNED UP ON MY SITE

THEY'LL GET THE TRUTH WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

I DIDN'T COME HERE TO START ANYTHING W/ ANYBODY

I WANT IT TO BE KNOWN…HAVE ALL THE OPTIONS…YOU'RE BIG GUYS

HAVE YOUR EYES OPEN….ALL THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD

LOOK AT THINGS….EACH ONE OF YOU BEFORE YOU GO ANYWHERE

CHECK IT OUT…EACH BANK WILL HAVE A RATE ATTACHED AND HAVE IT ON THE WEBSITE

BUT THEY'RE THINKING OF TAKING IT DOWN….SOME THINGS MIGHT CHANGE

SOMETHINGS HAPPENING

BUT ANYWAY…YOU STILL HAVE OPTIONS

TAKE THE BEST ONE THAT FITS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY

NOT LED DOWN A BLIND ALLEY

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT SOME SAY ABOUT GROUPS…NOT ONE GROUP..BUT ANY GROUP

I WANT YOU TO THINK AS A RATIONAL INDIVIDUAL, BIZ. PPL

IF SOMEONE SAYS TO ME COME BE A  PART OF MY GROUP

CAN TONY FORM A GROUP?...YEP

IF I GO TO A BANK AND SAY THAT I HAVE 12,000 PPL…..LOOK AT MY WEBSITE

AND TELL THEM THEY'LL ALL BE HERE IF THE PRICE IS RIGHT

AND I'M NOT---TOO MUCH TROUBLE

BECAUSE ITS TOO MUCH RESPONSIBILITY--I DON'T WANT TO BE RESPONSIBLE

THAT'S THE TRUTH….BUT I COULD DO IT

I'M TAKING A SMALL GROUP..BUT I COULD DO THAT….WHY WOULD I?

I COULD BRING EVERYBODY AND GET A BETTER RATE FOR MINE

OR A PERCENTAGE OF EVERYTHING THAT I BRING…AND I'M NOT DOING THAT

NO ONE IS PAYING ME…..DIDN'T ASK ANYONE TO PAY ME….NOT GOING TO ASK ANYONE TO PAY ME

AND THAT PART IS OUT….DON'T MIND IF YOU DO IT

DON'T MIND IF SOME….I DON'T MIND IF YOU DID IT

BUT I DONT' MIND IF SOMEONE ELSE DOES IT

THEY DID THE HARD WORK AND THEY SHOULD GET PAID

AND I DON'T CARE WHAT THEY GET PAID

IT WON'T AFFECT WHAT I GET……I'LL STILL GET WHAT I GET…..AND THEY'LL GET ABOVE THAT

AND THEY DESERVE IT….I'M SAYING IT OUTRIGHT

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BUT WHAT DOES ....FOR MEAN FOR ME TO LIE ABOUT IT

HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY- SO THEY SAY….DOING THAT IS THE BEST

IT TAKES AWAY THE CONFUSION -- PUT IT OUT THERE

BUT PPL ARE SAYING THAT ITS MORE THAN PPL NEED TO KNOW

HOW ARROGANT IS IT TO DECIDE WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW!!!!

I DON'T KNOW…LETS GO AWAY FROM THAT

IF I PUT TOGETHER A GROUP….I WANT YOU TO GO TO A GROUP

FIRST QUESTION IS WHAT AM I GONNA GET?

WHATS INVOLVED?...AND THEN ITS I DON'T KNOW…I DON'T KNOW?
  THEN WHY DID I GO W/ YOUR GROUP?

THIS IS ANY GROUP OUT THERE

AND SOMEONE SAYS - COME W/ MY GROUP YOU'LL GET THE GREATEST RATE EVER!!

WHATS THE RATE?     I DON'T KNOW

THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS THE GREATEST RATE EVER???????

I COULD GO IN DEPTH--- BUT I'M NOT….BUT I'M TELLING YOU

BETTER LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE

OR IT WILL JUMP UP AND BITE YOU IN THE A$ AND ITS GOING TO HURT

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OK…….SORRY I HAD TO SAY THAT

HAD TO LET YOU KNOW, BUT THERE IS MORE TO THIS THAN YOU KNOW

THERE ARE PPL TALKING ON THE BOARDS, SAYING THIS AND THAT

AND MAYBE THEY DON'T KNOW WHATS GOING ON ABOVE THEN

OR JSUT COMPLICIT

OR JUST TOO DUMB TO REALIZE WHATS GOING ON

AND ITS NOT A BAD THING

I JUST THINK ITS BETTER THE MORE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU GO IN

TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION

HERE IS THE OTHER THING…THERE IS MORE THAN ONE BANK THAT YOU CAN DO THESE THINGS WITH

MORE THAN ONE BANK THAT WILL ACCEPT A GROUP

MOM AND POPS THAT WILL ACCEPT GROUPS…MORE NOW THAT THEY PARTNERED WITH

I AM ONLY GOING TO CALL OUT THIS ONE AGENCY

THIS MORNING

WAS GOING TO TELL YOU THIS FROM ANOTHER SOURCE

AND THIS ONE WAS SPECIFIC AND SAID THIS MORN.

WAIT.LET ME TELL YOU THIS…YESTERDAY SAW ?S ON THE BOARD

ONCE AGAIN SITTING IN BANK PARKING LOTS

FOR 2, DAYS IN A ROW…IT WAS IN NC

RIDICULOUS……BUT YESTERDAY IT WAS 5 DIFF. STATES SITTING IN BANK PARKING LOTS

POLICE CALLED AND TAKE THEM OFF THE GROUNDS

BECAUSE THEY DEMANDED TO BE PAID

THAT IS THE CRAZIEST THING IN THE WORLD

DON'T KNOW WHAT COUNTRY YOU THINK YOU ARE IN

CITY OR STATE

THAT'S NOT HOW YOU ARE GOING TO GET PAID HERE

DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE

SO CALL YOUR FAMILY FRIENDS AND RELATIVES

THAT'S NOT HOW YOU WILL BE PAID

ITS ABSOLUTELY A CONCERN…THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD SECURITY IN PLACE

BUT SEEING THIS….IS SCARY TO THEM

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THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A MEDIA EVENT TO EXPLAIN ON THE 6PM NEWS

THAT PPL ARE IN PARKING LOTS GETTING ARRESTED

THIS IS NOT HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING

HERE IS MY POINT

THAT'S WHAT I GOT FROM THE UST THIS MORN!

AND THEY ARE WELL AWARE OF IT

AND IS TNT PART OF IT….FUEL TO THE FIRE?

EVEN THOUGHT HEY ASSUMED IT COULD BE…GIVING YOU TOO MUCH INFO

THEY EXPRESSED TO ME TODAY THAT THE BANKS ARE FINE WITH THE MESSAGE I'M PUTTING OUT

THE BANKS

ITS DOING WHAT ITS SUPPOSED TO DO

WITH THE INFO THAT I'M PUTTING OUT- DOING WHAT ITS SUPPOSED TO DO

WITH THE TIME FRAME….YES I HAVE THE TIME FRAME

AND SO NOW YOU ALL KNOW

AND YOU CAN GO TO EVERY LOCATION AND NOT BOTTLENECK THE SITUATION

AND TELLING YOU ALL THIS MORN.

IF THEY DIDN'T WANT ME TELLING YOU GUYS THIS

I WOULDN'T BE TELLING YOU

IF THEY DIDN'T WANT ME DOING THIS CALL

IT WOULDN'T BE GOING ON

THEY COULD SHUT IT DOWN IN A MIN.

THEY COULD MAKE ONE REAL PHONE CALL TO ME

AND THEY COULD SHUT IT DOWN W/OUT DOING THAT

THIS MORNING IT WAS EXPRESSED TO ME

THEY LIKE THE MESSAGE & WHATS BEEN GIVEN OUT

SO SOMEONE WAY BELOW THEM IS GETTING UPSET

ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE HEARING

AND I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED WITH THEM

THE BANKS ARE NOT CONCERNED

I'M GETTING THE INFO FROM A US GOV. AGENCY

AND THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO

UNLESS THEY TELL ME DIFF….GIVE YOU EVERYTHING…DETAILS ETC..

WELL NOT EVERYTHING, BUT BEING HONEST

IF ANYONE IS GETTING MAD, ITS ON THEM

AND IF THE BANKS DIDN'T WANT ME TO GIVE THE INFO

THEY WOULDN'T BE GETTING IT

EVERYTHING IS GOOD….I KNOW YOU WERE EXCITED YESTERDAY

WERE EXCITED YESTERDAY…WAITING…..IT STILL IS AT THE BANK

EVERY BANK IS READY EXCEPT FOR ONE

ONE BANK IS HOLDING UP THE PROCESS

AND GIVEN A DEADLINE TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO

AND THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO MEET THE DEADLINE

AND BANK SECURITY

AND YESTERDAY THEY WERE AUTHORIZED TO USE LOCAL POLICE

W/OUT HAVING TO CALL FOR PERMISSION FOR CROWD CONTROL…..REMOVE PPL

ACROSS THE BOARD- W/OUT HAVING TO CALL

THEY DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON BANK SECURITY

OBVIOUSLY THERE WILL BE POLICE, MARSHALS, THAT TELL ME THAT

THIS IS NOT WHAT THEY DO….GO TO THE BANK PARKING LOT AND PROVE IT YOURSELF

THIS IS NEW AND HAPPENING RIGHT NOW

THE GOOD NEWS IS ITS STILL SET

THE BAD THING IS THAT ALL THE BANKS EXCEPT FOR ONE

SENT THEIR PPL HOME AND SAID COME BACK MONDAY BUT BE ON STANDBY CAUSE IT CAN HAPPEN ANY MOMENT

WE DON'T KNOW WHEN THEY WILL FINISH WHAT THEY'RE DOING…WE DO KNOW THE TIME FRAME THEY WERE GIVEN TO…..SO HERE WE GO

IS IT STILL A POSSIBILITY TODAY, LATER,  AND TONIGHT, TOMORROW MORN.

YES….ABSOLUTELY

DO THEY STILL WANT IT TO COME OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE…..YES, SO THE WINDOW STARTS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

IS IT STILL A HIGH RATE…….OH YEAH

THAT WAS STILL A PROBLEM, THIS MORN. OR LAST NIGHT

THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF IT

THE SMALLER BANKS WERE GETTING A DIFF. RATE THAN THE LARGER BANKS

LETTING YOU KNOW ALL THE LITTLE ISSUES SO YOU CAN SEE HOW ITS BEING PUT TOGETHER

I THINK EVERYTHING IS GREAT

OPENED UP A WHOLE CAN OF WORMS…BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS

IF I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG W/ WHAT I'M DOING

I WOULDN'T DO IT….OR GIVING OUT TOO MUCH INFO….I WOULDN'T

BUT I WANT EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND THIS THING OF HANGING OUT IN THE PARKING LOTS

IS NOT GOING TO WORK FOR ANY OF US

ITS GOING TO CAUSE MORE OF A PROBLEM….AGAIN

THERE IS ONLY 12,000 ON THIS SITE…..THERE ARE 3 M. W/ DINAR AND THE WORD IS TRICKLING OUT

BUT WAIT…BE HAPPY ..BE SAD…WHATEVER……BUT DON'T GO TO THE BANK TILL THEY TELL US TO GO

THEY EXPECT SOMETHING AND THEY KNOW ITS GONNA COME

IT WENT FROM 1 STATE TO 5 STATES IN A FEW DAYS

CRAZY

Q & A   37 MIN. LEFT ON THE RADIO

c- encourage you, getting upset, push buttons on ppl in Chinese, everything you say, i can validate it... it's like they trying to kill you and they been around longer than you, but it hasn't come to fruition, and i believe that God is holding it up, you have no control over the rate, etc...

c- the wealth of the wicked is laid up for the just,  know you don't sleep, being attacked

t- let me tell you I appreciate it

t- if God's holding it up, his name is WF, lol

t- not telling you for that purpose, when it happens, you'll be able to go into the bank and remember what I told you, and then say yep, what Tony said,  i don't have a problem - telling you the truth

t- better for you and more choices to make

t- maybe they are not getting the same info i get, its based on who you talk to

t- some are agreeing and you'll see,

( Pam:  you just muted 1500 ppl ---lol )

( Tony:  no, just one guy

( Pam:  they can't hear

( back and forth, the bridge was muted  )

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c- talked to you yesterday and really concerned with whats going on ... fighting on the boards... TNT, not what we are about, disagree about what you said re: 13303, but FF said before Christmas last year, powerful ppl that don't want this rv to come through, hope we can stay positive, stop the infighting, TNT be supportive of each other... get back to the way you started it

t- I'll address this,  Montana send me a text real quick, you wanted me to address something,  this is a dinar site, and whats going on with our economy,  ( new republic stuff ) basel 3, when the dollar goes down, and affects all of us - as far as TNT is concerned, be respectful, had a guy send me a private message and said he was banned, because I'm not a Tony-ite, and believe in the Hopium....and my answer was, why are you here, and why do you want to be unbanned, and the answer I got back, was OK, I don't believe any of it - but I want too - none of it has happened but I want it to,  so the response is,  if you are negative, if you can help me understand why or help someone else,  I don't go in there, think I banned one person, Mods are watching it...lets remember what we came here for, and what we came from and to help each other get to the end and ask questions, but don't get offended if ppl feel like you are offending me,  you're on the site, what do you expect them to do, I can pretty much take everything, all I can do is tell you the truth, I'm not going to make up something to make you feel good and explain it the best I can , lets keep this site the reason that we came here, and get the best info we can, about the process and what we should be doing during the Rv and what to look for, and talk about post RV

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c- so we have the whole world waiting w/ baited breath and why all of a sudden we have a new bank in the pic.

t- not a new bank,  WF

c- that's the bank WF??

t- that's what all the other banks told me, the cash out centers were ready to go

c- thought WF was ready

t- they've been pushing for it, China been pushing,  like the military, HURRY UP AND WAIT

t- and now at the last min. Chaos is at the front door and our security plan wasn't where it needed to be, maybe add more banks, because our 90 day plan was cut down to a 30 day plan and make some adjustments, move locations, expand, ..... clearly telling you something, clearly, there was a time frame that it was to be done and ready to go

c- idea of the time frame,  week or longer or less

t- between now and Monday

c- now and Monday

t- didn't say it will take till Monday

c- how will we know the Mom and Pops - will there be #s

t- if you do a group, they will give you a #, direct you to the Mom and Pops

c- WF will be behind that one

t- well that one, and if its the others, you call & they say this is the one in your area

c- gottcha,  one thing concerned about is dinar folks, during office hours,  so wouldn't it be great to be Sat. night and Sunday

t- i think it would be great, nothing but those folks

t- we have great ideas, but they make the decision

541

c-good morning TNT -- good morning Tony

c-how are you?

c-super fantastic

c-give a little teaser about an announcement that will be post RV

c-this is the RadioMan,

t- how do I do that man?

c- its your personality, its your integrity and its your willingness to tell the truth,

-that's how you do it.

t- what are you talking about

c- there is a few of us to show our appreciation about you

and post RV there will be an announcement, where they can participate in that appreciation of you

t- ok

c- not going to make an announcement Post RV

c- hopefully we can get on together on your post RV call and announce on the call, what we are going to do for the post RV community

t- we only have an hour

t- don't know how you expect me to be involved

t- we'll work something out

c- go to the next question

505

THIS IS FLASH

c- the 30 days, that's not just to to get the optimum rate, but not cash in the 3 zero note - after the 30 days, there is a signed document for that, something that's going on, expecting to go on over there, and its not public, i can tell you that, is it a possibility that it could change, spending money over there, not bombing every other block,  the situation is changed,  30 days from now, will the situation change again???  Do what you want to do, I am telling you what I was told.

I know what the plan is right now.

c- will plan accordingly, wanted to know if the it was the rate itself

t- the highest point will be then, thats why they went to the Mom and Pop's.  They wanted it quickly.

c- the Power Sharing, they want it done quickly,

t- not publicly announced and it will not be publicly announced, but you will see something in 30 days.

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c-any indication on how they are going to handle the reserves,  when you call

t- once you go to your appt. I don't know, but include it in your number when you make the appt.

c- bring the documentation

t- that's what I would do

t- see if they included it in the rate, if not walk out

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c- what might you suggest to put it in another currency, i.e. Canadian

t- there are some other currency's that are from overseas, and they won't tell me them till after the RV, but they gave me 5, but not till we get to Atlanta

t- there will be some options, but not right quick, you might want to, if you knew you could convert them, you'll be able to buy them, it won't be like this, they don't want it like this

and the laws that were put in April in the banks, think about it in the future, can't answer your question since the Indonesian- can't do that again

c- our neighbor to the north

t- they are always a great neighbor

c- can you tell us what bank is holding it up

t- wf is doing something and holding it up

c- they are getting sued

t- procedure changes to make it smoother

t- still has to be done before

c- we have a good window w/ the light on

t- i think so

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c - i know there is a lot of fighting between ppl, i have several mil. of dinar and know its going up, this week, or next I don't know, tired of hearing it, and then you have chaos about it, got to keep your wits about it, it will come when it comes, I want to believe that its this weekend, at some point in time, come Tuesday when it doesn't happen, there can't be that many hold ups, enough is enough

t- I agree with you,  if you can't handle the day to day, and this is the info, coming out of the bank, the gov. and the chi.. then you shouldn't be on the call, life is going on every day, every day there is a meeting, information, and every day someone is going to tell you why it isn't happening.

t- one day someone will tell you to go to the bank, other than that, you'll hear its not happening

c- WF is now the hold up, doesn't China own....61%

t- wrong

t- wrong

t- China bought 31% of the Holding company

t- they were pushing it, China was at the UN and pushed it to get it done, got from a 3 letter agency that we are waiting on WF

t- the rate is live and all banks are seeing the same rate and it was supposed to go yesterday

t- other than the  parking lots, there is another issue

t- i know the issue but not saying it

t - its a complicated process, it seems simple to us, but they have a bigger picture

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c- large wave of bombings today

c- all the articles deal with security,

t- it does and there are issues you don't know about

t- they don't want it public at this time and there are things that will happen after its announced

c- the post by Delta, before Thanksgiving, but a couple weeks down the road till we look for it

t- and I saw someone else say Jan. the 14th, and wild figures of 1.10 and that's what their info tells them, what you have to decide is how you feel about it, prepare for both, and does this make more sense, what the UN is doing and what Iraq is doing, I'm not the only one talking to 3 letter agencies

t- I'm not the only one w/ bank sources, and the rate that is showing, are they fooling everyone, set up 800 #s and bank locations and training, for 6 months

c- been in 6 months,and the 1st time I heard someone said, they were expecting it in the next 24 hours, i learned my lesson and go to sleep and say ok....

c- thank you for your calls

t- an that's what you should be doing, and I get excited with you, today is the day and this is the time and are they preparing, yes, but at every level, they are telling me,  the other day there were 18 confirmations from DC alone,  things that happened on Thurs. night, that should have said absolutely its over, that they couldn't do w/out it being done, but we can't see it, but they couldn't happen if it wasn't right there, the level I'm getting it from....

RADIO ABOUT TO SHUT DOWN

PAM SET IT UP FOR 1 HOUR

SHE'S IN CHARGE

ITS SATURDAY….WANT YOU TO KNOW ITS STILL MOVING….ITS STILL THERE

TIME FRAME……BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY

YOU SHOULD HEAR ABOUT IT…..UNLESS SOMETHING CHANGES

WE'LL DO THIS AGAIN

DON'T GO TO THE BANK

DON'T GO TO THE BANK

DON'T GO TO THE BANK PARKING LOT

SCARE THEM MORE THAN THEY NEED…..NOW THEY HAVE TO BRING MORE SECURITY

GO OUT &  ENJOY YOUR SATURDAY

WE HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR A TEXT IF SOMETHING HAPPENS

WE WILL TEXT YOU

WE'LL DO ANOTHER CALL IF NEED BE

WITH THAT ENJOY THE DAY

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BLUWOLF UPDATE, 10 AUGUST

OK THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING FOLKS AS WE SPEAK,,OUR MOMENTARY LACK OF MOVEMENT HAS BEEN DUE TO SECURITY MEASURES.

IT SEEMS THAT PEOPLE THAT THINK THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHTS TO FREEDOM BY CONSTITUTUIONS OR AMENDMENTS SEEM TO FORGET THAT FREEDOM IS WITHIN THE LAW,, BUT LIBERALISM IS NOT WITHIN THE LAW, THEY SEEM TO CONFUSE THINGS.

WE HAVE INFORMATION THAT COMPLES US TO DELAY OF PROCESS SORT OF SPEAK FOR WE HAVE TO REALLY SET UP SECURITIES FOR THE PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND I THAT WILL BE DOING THINGS BY THE BOOK

(BOOKING APPOINTMENTS FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS ETC. THE REALLY FREE PEOPLE YOU KNOW THAT FOLLOW THE LAW ), 
  AND THEN THERE IS THE ONES THAT SAY THAT THEY ARE FREE TO CLOG UP BANKING FACILITIES AND DEMAND TO BE ATTENDED FIRST ( THE LIBERALS, SEE WHAT I MEAN ).

I ALWAYS SAID THAT PEOPLE IN ALL THESE SITES SHOULD BE SILENT AND IF SO THEY WILL SEE THIS RV, BUT NO THEY JUST CONTINUE TO BLA BLA BLA WITHOUT TAKING IN SERIOUS CONCERNS  FOR ALL OF US INVOLVE

,SEE THESE SITE MAKERS ALL THEY WANT IS THERE 15 MINUTES OF FAME AND THEY DO NOT GIVE A HOOT ABOUT YOU AND ME,

NOW IS THAT TIME FOR THEM TO BE SILENT,

NOW IS THAT TIME FOR THEM TO LET THIS THING FLOW,

NOW IS THAT TIME FOR THEM TO STEP ASIDE AND LET THE BANKS GIVE US THE REAL LIVE FEED OF WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THIS INTERNATIONAL EVENT.

PEOPLE WE ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO BE HERE, WE WERE NOT SUPPOSE TO KNOW ABOUT THIS,

THIS WAS NOT SUPPOSE TO BE LET OUT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN AMERICA, WE WERE JUST LUCKY ENOUGH TO FIND OUT ABOUT IT.

 WE ARE 28,000,000 THAT HOLD DINAR IN THE U.S.,, AND YOU GUYS HAVE OVER 312,000,000 MILLION FOLKS OUT THERE,

 THAT IS WHY THIS MUST BE SILENT FOR THIS IF KNOWN BY THOSE 312 MILLION FOLKS WHO DID NOT BUY BECAUSE IT WAS KEPT DOWN FROM THEM ( WAS KNOWN TO HELP THERE PERSONAL ECONOMIC PROBLEMS GO AWAY ), HAVOC WOULD OCCUR IMHO.

 SO I WILL NOT PLAY STUPID AND I ENCOURAGE ALL SITE TO WIND DOWN TO THE SILENT MODE FOR IT IS TIME TO DO SO.

THE RV HAS HAPPENED , IT IS HERE, THE RATES ARE HIGH AND IMO WELLS FARGO BEING THE PROFESSIONALS THAT THEY ARE WILL TAKE CARE OF OUR SECURITIES FOR US,

REMEMBER THE BEST RATES WILL BE IN WELLS FARGO PERIOD. BE BLESSED HAPPY JOURNEYS BLUWOLF 8-10-13 12:01 PM EST

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 10 AUGUST

8-10-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    EMAIL:  "POPPY,  I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ANY HELP, BUT TICKER TAPE SAYS SECOND GENERATION QI CARDS BEING ISSUED...I HOPE THIS IS TRUE"   ...RECIEVED TWO CALLS  DURING SUPPER...STATING THAT THE SECOND GENERATION CARDS ARE TO BE ISSUED BEGINNING TOMORROW [SATURDAY]  TO THE PUBLIC. THEN GOT HOME AND FOUND THE ABOVE EMAIL MESSAGE TO ME. USE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT...  POPPY3 

8-10-2013  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   That being said, the good news is he apparently realizes that the dinar must become internationally convertible soon and have some value.  I'll take a float because we all know it should rise fairly quickly.  And I stand by the IMF documents that fully support the IMF in their new "target." which is clearly outlined as "liberalizing the foreign exchange market."  [post 2 of 2]

8-10-2013  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Article:  "The economy: the Iraqi dinar will see an improvement in price against the dollar during the coming period the original plan in 2011 and again 2012 was a RV at 1 to $1 or about. It was called a "staging rate" and is well documented in these forums.  I would love that to be the plan, but the article...confirms that is not going to happen.  Maliki has not budged on his policy and he is not going to give "overnight" value to the dinar.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

8-10-2013  Newshound Guru Tlar   Pre RV 1166 = .00086    Post RV 1.16 = .86.   1.16 is what supposedly what the 2014 - 2016 budgets are based on according to news reports.  If you move a decimal point 3 positions to the left, 1166 becomes 1.16. This is a game changer folks! This means the nominal value!  Every time they have been mentioning "delete the zeroes", they have been meaning the "leading zeroes" from the nominal rate which turns .00086 to .86!!!! We are close to the end of Eid Al-Fitr.  A time when Muslim governments like to gift their people.   [post 2 of 2]

8-10-2013  Newshound Guru Tlar   Article:  "The economy: the Iraqi dinar will see an improvement in price against the dollar during the coming period"   Turki has told us that Iraqi's will be happy and that friends of Iraq will be happy, about three weeks ago.  They have said in an article they plan to delete the leading zeros.  The currency does not have leading zeros.  Leading zeros are found on the nominal rate (exchange rate only).  I may have just stumbled upon something pretty remarkable yet so simple...let me explain.  The issue has never been one of translation but one of the true meaning of the translation.  The result almost knocked me off my chair!  The result was..."leading zeroes"!!!!  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

8-10-2013  Intel Guru Jester    NOT AWARE OF A WAIT PERIOD...OR BACK WALL... OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT... IT WILL COME WHEN READY...[all we know for sure is some people in Iraq got paid and they are buying stuff. And that is it, correct? Nothing Here?]  PRETTY MUCH...AND THAT IS GOOD FOR THEM...BUT IT CANNOT BE TOO MUCH LONGER HERE BASED ON THAT...MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR IT TO BE RELEASED TO US.  [post 2 of 2]

8-10-2013  Intel Guru Jester   SOMETHING GOING ON IN IRAQ... MY BUDDY OVER THERE GOT PAID... AND THEY GOT PAID BIG.  I THINK WE ARE STILL AWAITING THE TIMING... IT IS COMING... JUST NOT HERE YET... THERE IS $21 TRILLION MOVING AROUND SOMEWHERE TRYING TO GET TO WHERE IT IS GOING... WHEN IT GETS THERE I BELIEVE THINGS WILL CLICK INTO PLACE. 

SHAWNW POST FROM TNT FORUM, 10 AUGUST

Good Morning everyone. I have been watching information since Tony's call on Friday. Obviously that information, if true, ( I believe it is) is a real game changer and increases all of those hopium emotions we try to avoid.

Now first I say Tony's info is just a step in this progression we have been on over the last couple of months so its not like it came out of no where, but we all need to realize this process has NOT played out how any of us thought it would, so rather than trying to place my incomplete logic, I rather just prefer to follow the process and let it play it out at this point.

I want to do a quick recap of the peices of info that line up with my thinking and how I see this path progressing. Mind well over 2 years ago, I was told that once the banks had it, they would have 3 days to release it to the public. With that thought in mind lets follow this.

Friday Morning TNT call:

TNT TONY!
7:00 p.m. eastern time last night something we have been waiting for, for 10 years did occur.   I do have a time.

People at the banks were excited last night.

[Are you believing we will RV today?]
There is no reason for it not to. Up until this call there is a concrete plan to do this.

I'm not making the post. Okie is going to, he deserves to make this announcement.

[Where did you get this information from?]
Banks, Iraq, Call Centers, Bank Executives, 3 letter agencies.

The rate is still outrageous, the street rate is outrageous.

The IQD was in double digits this morning
The Dong, over $2.
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Then we go through the day and nothing no word, no text, no call. How can that be?
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 8/9/2013 [TNT Member)  I am sitting here trying to make sense of the info shared with me this afternoon. All I will say is that when we have been told that the RV is done I never knew how done it really was. Let's just say the train has made it to the station and we are watching the first class folks get off and head to the Exchange building. I am sitting in my seat and the row in front of me has just been called and now it's our turn
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So there are special people allowed to exchange before the public. In this process..... no way lol

and now this morning.......

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8-10-2013 [TNT Member]....  Guys the Banks have it now I'm sorry you don't believe that but it's the truth. There are things going on as we speak to get us in there asap.
Please just hang on it really is over and done and that's all I can say There are some things that can't be told it's as simple as that look at the info that has been given out, it's all there and you will see some things are already done and seen \ I wish some of you would appreciate the process like I have.

We all want it and we all need it. All anyone can share is what they can. You have to take it and believe it or leave it...Listen, some things I know I will not share because I was told not to. And if I did it would get picked apart anyway. Trying to help is a never ending battle...

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With a process that the banks have 3 days to reveal it and can allow special individuals early access if they choose, I think we are right where we need to be in line and now just need to figure out how to be patient. We are close and the rest of reasoning for a delay just does not make sense in my head.

POPPY3 UPDATE, 10 AUGUST

8-10-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3: EMAIL:  "POPPY,  I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS ANY HELP, BUT TICKER TAPE SAYS SECOND GENERATION QI CARDS BEING ISSUED...I HOPE THIS IS TRUE"   ...RECIEVED TWO CALLS  DURING SUPPER...STATING THAT THE SECOND GENERATION CARDS ARE TO BE ISSUED BEGINNING TODAY [SATURDAY]  TO THE PUBLIC. THEN GOT HOME AND FOUND THE ABOVE EMAIL MESSAGE TO ME. USE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT...  POPPY3 

WANGO1 CHAT, 10 AUGUST

Late Friday Night:

GET:

[rich17]  Tony's report really sounds good and even seems reasonable until you get to the bank parking lot part. That doesn't seem believeable to me. A bank parking lot in NC would not hold up a Global Reset I'm sure. And people camping on a bank parking lot and even getting arrested would make the news across the country. I do hope the rest of what he told us is true though. But TK didn't seem to think so...but then he decided to keep the room open late. So who knows?

[wango1] rich17 sorry it is happening in other states as well, they have to protect themseves and us 

[rich17] wango1 Hey good to hear from you. What are you hearing tonight? Where do you think we are?

[wango1] rich17 really close but no one should be at the banks until official notice is given. 

[rich17] wango1 Well I am sure that is right. Do you think Tony's report was pretty accurate today?

[wango1] rich17 I know it was

keiji] wango1 do you think that it will be at least five days as Jester said?

[wango1] keiji I am not sure, I believe we will see something or instructions shortly

[keiji] wango1 I sure hope so...Jester seems to be sure of his info which is different than Tony's who is sure of his also

[wango1] keiji a timing issue they both know it's sitting right there

[uncrn] If it happens i would think it would be worldwide all at the same time. Nothing else makes sense.

[wango1] uncrn how do you know it hasn't started 

[oilerfan] And we were mad at Iraq for them holding this up now we have a chance and screw it up geeeeeesh

[westf] uncrn i agree with you 

[keiji] wango1 ty..Jester keeps talking about a third person who needs to be involved and I beleive he said he was rescheduled.

[wango1] keiji best to ask him 

[jonjobe7] imo it only has to make sense to those who have control of when and how

[uncrn] My friend in baghdad said there is nothing happening there this week. same old paradise.

[oilerfan] Wango1 it either is live or not and not Half pregnant

[uncrn] Indeed oilerfan. Lol

[wango1] oilerfan yes but pregnant and delivery can take a bit lol

[oilerfan] Yep 9 months lol

[wango1] oilerfan not for delivery thank goodness lol

[jonjobe7] wango1 we dont even know what kind of animal so dont know how long the gestation

[oilerfan] Pregnant and delivery 9 months

[wango1] jonjobe7 this is a cross bred of some kind RV GCR 

[uncrn] At least 10-12 years....

[uncrn] Been in labor three years already....any minute has been heard so many times.

[rich17] So is the whole world waiting on us now for the Global Reset?

[oilerfan] If security is an issue why not have a rental guard at each bank at night I mean they have been paying staff for weeks to do nothing a guard or two is cheap

[wango1] oilerfan news flash in some states people carry guns lol

[oilerfan] Wango1 so does security

[jonjobe7] apparently they have been expecting the rv to go live and need staff there for the flood of crazy people

NESARA UPDATE, 10 AUGUST

Nesara BlogSpot Dinar Update: John MacHaffie

RV Intel Rumors

Rumors ---It is showing on the bank screens nationwide, Street Rates Iraq Dinar 11.96, Vietnamese Dong 2.46. Awaiting WF to release it.

Rumors --- Everyone is TOTALLY FRUSTRATED at the BLOCKAGE by the bankers. Should have gone by now!

CONFIRMED --- BAD GUYS ARE THE CORRUPT BANKERS!

EXOGEN UPDATE, 10 AUGUST

DIRECT INTEL 11:11 AM EST TODAY 

THE COUNTRYWIDE ROLLOUT OF THE QI CARDS IS NOW COMPLETED IN ALL PROVINCES. THE CARDS

ARE NOW ACTIVE IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY AND BEING USED AS OF TODAY!!!!!!!

BAILY2 POST, 10 AUGUST

From email  ... THIS COULD BE HELPFUL TO ALL DINARIANS. . . GO RV..

WE NEED TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT BANKING SECURITY CONCERNS.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DISTRIBUTE THIS EMAIL.
JUST REMOVE MY NAME AND EMAIL BEFORE DOING SO.

"BANKING Security & Safety" is the issue of the day - I was just on a CC and one of the presenters is a woman with over 10 years experience in the foreign currency department of a large bank.  She still has banking connections.  I'm giving her the name of "LadyBank" to protect her ID on the chat rooms.

Lady Bank said this is done and complete.  Just waiting for banks to begin CE process but security for the banks is an issue.

LB was relaying how very, very concerned the banking community is about the people gathering in the parking lots and calling the banks.

 It has to be gotten under control or she said the CE process would be shut down.  She indicated it was part of the reason we cannot go to the banks yet.
LB explained when there are crowds in the bank vicinity, in their parking lot, security wonders if they are terrorists or trouble makers.

Concern also, is other people will think there is a run on the bank and the groups will attract the "bad guys."  Bad Guys are people that will learn what's going on and then target Dinarians or people coming to the banks.

She strongly urged we get the word out and that people DO NOT CALL THE BANKS;  DO NOT GATHER at BANKS.  That it's important to call the 800# and get an  appointment. 

Be calm and orderly when going to the bank.  She said again if not done in a reasonable manner, the CE process could be "SHUT DOWN" and we would have to wait again. 

She also said she did not know if delays would cut into the 30 day window to cash in while the rate is high.

LB said you will not see this at the CBI until days after it is completed.  That all countries have to be done, before the CBI will update their web site and she said she understood they have a new site and implied the new rate for the IQD would not show up on the new site until everything is completed world wide.

In regards to question about seeing the RV on the FOREX she explained the FX had 3 levels:  International, banking and public.

She said in the beginning you will not see it on the free FX or low pay feed FX sites.  She said the public FX, where the traders are, will be given a 30 minute notice so they will not be caught up in any transaction.

LB said the bank will not require a receipt for your CE.  She said the IRS may have an interest in a receipt (if you need to authenticate the date of purchase).

[awakein3d] If you were a bank executive faced with this massive event and potentially millions of people, what would you do? Most people don't like "banks" to begin with... WF (just one bank) has like 2,000 branches. Security is a BIG deal, not to mention coordination with local police to lock up the crazies....

JESTER CHAT, 10 AUGUST

[wango1] I am reading stories on other boards about people waiting at the banks or planning on being at the bank in the am. I missed the list of exchange sites. If I was worried about security I would make enchange centers away from the banks that sell currency. But than if these people that are causing problems know more than rest of us. Get email?. book appt that part is simple. 

[Patience] HERES JESTER YAY!!

[Shirley] JESTER is now here.......

[Jester] THE REAL NEWS IS I BEEN OUT WORKING OUT IN THE REAL WORLD ALL DAY... SUCKS TO HAVE TO DO THAT... BETTER TIMES ARE COMING...

[cashinqueen] Jester what kind of post will we be expecting from ZAP.....

[cashinqueen] poor zap the last two weeks still have not panned out

[Jester] cashinqueen NOT SURE WHAT ZAP WILL SAY THIS WEEKEND... BUT HE IS USUALLY UP TO SPEED IN MY OPINON... AT THE TIME HE POSTS ANYWAY... THE PROBLEM IS... THINGS CHANGE...

[alin] Jester, maybe its due to wonderful news Tony gave the dinarland folks

[Jester] alin HAVEN'T SEEN IT SORRY... BUT I GOT THE BACKLASH ON MY PHONE... IF IT WAS LIVE WE'D KNOW IT...

[shark] Jester -[rednckmomma] Jester, so you cant say that tony is right?

 [Jester] shark I CANNOT... NOT ABOUT IT BEING LIVE... BUT I CAN SAY HE IS RIGHT ABOUT SOMETHING GOING ON IN IRAQ... MY BUDDY OVER THERE GOT PAID... AND THEY GOT PAID BIG...

[sk8pastor] Jester so what is the hold up on our end?

[BJandJodi] Jester - When you say "live", are you just referring to the Forex?

hark] BJandJodi -live means live as in live...........

[Jester] BJandJodi WHEN I SAY LIVE I EXPECT TO WALK INTO THE BANK AND TRADE FOR SOME COLD HARD CASH.... THAT IS WHY I THINK IT IS NOT

[sk8pastor] Jester if we have an RV in Iraq what are we waiting for here .

[Jester] sk8pastor I THINK WE ARE STILL AWAITING THE TIMING... IT IS COMING... JUST NOT HERE YET... THERE IS $21 TRILLION MOVING AROUND SOMEWHERE TRYING TO GET TO WHERE IT IS GOING... WHEN IT GETS THERE I BELIVE THINGS WILL CLICK INTO PLACE...

BJandJodi] Jester - Do you realize that it does not need to be on the Forex (yet) for the Banks to do a CE?

[Jester] BJandJodi YEP... BANKS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT ON A DAILY BASIS... BUT THEY WILL NOT DO IT HERE AND THERE... WF WILL GO ALL AT ONCE... AND IF YOU TALK TO ONE AND THEY SAY NOTHING HAS CHANGED... AND YOU TALK TO ANOTHER AND THEY SAY NOTHING HAS CHANGED... AND YOU TALK TO FOREX AND THEY SAY NOTHING HAS CHANGED... WHO DO YOU BELIEVE?

[airam] Jester IF the qi cards are active in Iraq how long they can wait to RV ???

[alin] Jester, a lot of bank stories out there were denial was the norm of the day and yesterday and today no bank manager denied it anymore

[Jester] alin I THINK THEY KNOW IT IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN... NO DENYING THAT

[pokerbrat] Jester if your friend in Iraq cashed-in can't he double dip??

[Jester] pokerbrat GETTING PAID IS OF THE SAME VALUE.. IT IS WHAT HE WAS GETTING PAID IN THAT WAS IMPORTANT...

[Jester] pokerbrat AND WHAT HE WAS SEEING IN BASRA.... NO IGNORING THAT THE PEOPLE THERE ARE HAPPY AND TRYING TO BUY STUFF...

[queenmum] Jester are we in the 10 day wait period?

[Jester] queenmum NOT AWARE OF A WAIT PERIOD... OR BACK WALL... OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT... IT WILL COME WHEN READY...

[texas1837] Jester all we know for sure is some people in Iraq got paid and they are buying stuff. And that is it, correct? Nothing Here?

[Jester] texas1837 PRETTY MUCH... AND THAT IS GOOD FOR THEM... BUT IT CANNOT BE TOO MUCH LONGER HERE BASED ON THAT...

[cashinqueen] .delay delay delay not rumor lol

[Jester] cashinqueen IT WILL... IT IS TAKING A BIT OF TIME TO GET DONE... A HUGE PROJECT...

[markb] Jester - In your opinion, what happened last night at 7:00 that makes Tony and Bluwolf believe we had an RV?

[Jester] markb GOOD QUESTION... WE DIDN'T SEE IT...

[jam777] Jester ... so all banks stories are bogus ... still waiting on money moved into place, JL and other announcements ???

[Jester] jam777 WE HAVE LOTS OF BANK CONTACTS.... PRETTY HIGH UP.. WHEN WE HEAR THAT STUFF WE CALL THEM AND THEY TELL US THE SAME THING FOR WEEKS NOW.... NOTHING HAS CHANGED... RATES STILL THE SAME... HOLDING STEADY....

[sixpack] Grunt0311 has been said that deliveries were in progress to push things forward...any movement?


[mohawk] Do the f/p letters have to be out to trigger the RV here?

[Grunt0311] sixpack ON THE HISTORIC BONDS? MY UNDERSTAND THAT SOME HAVE TAKEN PLACE, BUT THAT IS ALL I CAN REALLY DISCLOSE.

firenice] Jester MarkZ agreed with Tony and Bluwolf that revals happened last night but probably not active for 48-72hrs.

[Jester] firenice WELL I GET INFO FROM A LOT OF PLACES... AND I WAS TALKING TO REDWOLF EEARLIER ABOUT THAT... AND WE DON'T SEE IT WITHIN 5 DAYS OR SO AT BEST...

[firenice] Jester wow, conflicting info all over. We're nowhere

[Thoughtful] Wells Fargo is a soverign bank. They had to clean it up before they could proceed as the location for the group. . . China would not have it any other way. I plan on leaving money there myself :)

[Jester] Thoughtful GOOD POST... AND YOU ARE 100% RIGHT ON...

[zorro] Jester Sonds like all is well and the PROCESS is going in our direction.........Good for us!

[Jester] zorro ABSOLUTELY IT IS... THAT IS THE POINT I AM TRYING TO GET ACROSS...

[airam] Jester Grunt0311 I don't want to be rude ............... but we know where we are going ............. the problem is how far or close we are ........ not asking for date......... i've been holding Dinars for 7 yrs know ................. just what is left to be done .......... maybe there is not one answer but many ty

[scoot] Wells fargo lady over nw usa in her position. Verified rv last night at 7:00. Would not give rate . but said rate was over twice what iraq rate was. I believe her!!

[Grunt0311] airam THAT WAS A GREAT WAY TO PUT IT... AND REALLY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE ARE JUST WAITING FOR IT TO BE RELEASED TO US.

[Jester] airam IT IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING... THERE IS NO WAY TO CALCULATE THE END... THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WAITING FOR... WHEN THEY ARE READY AND SATISFIED WE WILL BE DONE...

[alin] grunt0311, ok. What about the prosperity projects after the RV? Are you involved with those as well?

Grunt0311] alin MORE OR LESS, YES. THAT IS A COMPLICATED QUESTION FOR ME TO ANSWER THOUGH. I'VE BEEN WORKING ON PROJECT FUNDING FOR A LONG TIME... IN FACT, THAT IS HOW I MET ZAP TO BEGIN WITH. WE HAVE TALKED, AND HE HAS INDICATED I WILL BE VERY BUSY.

[mohawk] Jester, are the f/p letters a "kickoff" to everything? Just curious. We've heard for a long time

[Jester] mohawk IT IS THE FIRST AFTEREFFECT... THEY WANT TO HIT THEM WHERE IT HURTS... BUT NOT PRE-RV...they would have to be out before the RV

[LittleBuddha] Jester so I take it the last person of the three was rescheduled again?

[Jester] LittleBuddha YES HE WAS...

[spiritfilled] Jester So you think at least 5 days at best???

[toolfan4] Jester 5 days at best...finally an answer i can use...i will see you all next week to check back...good info to have....around wed or thurs maybe

[Blessed94] Is anyone else feeling down?

[Catwoman] Blessed...Yes, very!

[Jester] Catwoman LAST NIGHT WAS MINUTES... SHEESH PEOPLE... YOU CAN KEEP ON LISTENING OR YOU CAN TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND RELAX...

[sign]  IMHO if we RV last night I think we would have heard from Okie by now.

[Grunt0311] Blessed94 WeRCurious DEFINITELY NEED TO BE EXCITED... THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON RIGHT NOW THAT IS POINTING IN THE DIRECTION WE WANT IT TO GO..

[Jester] Grunt0311 THAT IS TRUE... THERE IS NOTHING TO BE DOWN ABOUT... EVERYTHING IS HEADED THE RIGHT DIRECTION... AND IT IS ALL GOOD FOR US....

[jam777] Jester ... you know MarkZ and Wilduck, or at least talk to them ... they both think the RV is like any second now ... and you seem to be waiting on money movement and announcements ... are they seeing things from financial institutions or something else that makes them more imminent than you on the rv ???

[Jester] jam777 WELL MARKZ IS A VERY SMART MAN.... AND I LIKE HIM ALOT... WE TALK... HE KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING... BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THINGS CHANGE...

[spiritfilled] .this thing has process for months and we hear good news 1 day and get told that it is a lie by saying well things change ..the Iraqis seem to be doing ok so God bless them ...done

Grunt0311] spiritfilled WELL, THE THING YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT IT ISN'T A LIE WHEN IT IS SHARED IF IT SIMPLY CHANGES FROM WHAT IT WAS. IT TENDS TO BE A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE. IN THE CORPS WE HAVE A SAYING: CHANGE 1, CHANGE 2.

[Jester] spiritfilled I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY LIES... ONLY THOSE THAT WANT TO USE THE EFFECTS FOR EXCUSES... THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN A PILL ATR BEST... BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE THIS WAY TO ROOT THE RATS OUT AND MAKE THE WHOLE SYSTEM SAFE...

[honeybelle] Jester sir there will always be rats believe me I know :(

[Jester] OK... ALMOST CLOSING... HOPE EVERYONE HAD A NICE TIME... HOPE YOU WILL VISIT US AGAIN... THANKS FOR COMING AND HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING...

[Grunt0311] TIME FOR ME TO HEAD OUT, FOLKS! IT WAS GREAT, AS ALWAYS. SEE YOU AGAIN SOON!

[Jester] Grunt0311 THANKS BIG GUY...

[Grunt0311] Jester YOU'RE QUITE WELCOME! :)

[Patriot] Ya'll come back now, ya hear

TLAR POST , 10 AUGUST

Tlar:  "In an attempt by the Government to improve the Iraqi currency, intended to delete the three zeros is pricing exchange rate 1.16 against the dollar, the dinar would replace the State budget $ 172 billion dinars, or the equivalent of about $ 150 million, and the Government is preparing to perform this step with the adoption of the "new dinar" requesting an order from the Central Bank to raise its value gradually down to be equal to the dollar. "   {Full Article Below Tlars Comments}

 Very interesting statement.  What does it mean?  Does it mean float the currency starting at 1166 and gradually, finally get to a dollar?

Or is it saying that the will delete the zeros and start at 86 cents and then gradually control a float to a dollar?  The first part of the sentence says:

 "In an attempt by the Government to improve the Iraqi currency, intended to delete the three zeros is pricing exchange rate 1.16 against the dollar, the dinar would replace the State budget $ 172 billion dinars, or the equivalent of about $ 150 million,"
  Here we see the 3 zeros being dropped and the currency becomes 1.16 dinars to a dollar as it has been stated in multiple articles now.  It even gives us a proof number when it says compares the state budget with the before number of 1166 and the new number after the zeros are removed at 1.16 or 86 cents. 

But this is still not equal to a dollar.  In order to get to a dollar the Central bank is next ordered to complete the process by taking it gradually from 86 cents to equal the dollar.

 Next we see it says:   the Government is preparing to perform this step with the adoption of the "new dinar"

 I guess its all in how you interpret the articles as to what they are saying. 

In the above article they say they want to equal the dollar but they show step one as 1.16 or 86 cents.

 I find it extremely interesting that they would feel it necessary to even put 1.16 in that part of the paragraph if it is their intention to just float the currency from 1166.

That is just one of 1165 numbers that they will supposedly pass through as they march toward the dollar mark. 

I also find it interesting that the 1.16 is the same number that both of the finance guys told the press that the 2014-2016 budgets are figured on.  How would they know what the value will be in the future on a market driven free floating currency?

 I don't think both guys were using an imaginary number nor do I think they were guessing at some future number.  I believe they are using the number achieved after the deletion of the leading zeros as it was told to them by Turki.  Sorry Kap.  I don't see it the way you and Ennorste do.

FULL ARTICLE & LINK:

After its release from the penalties.Anatolia: Iraq looks to foreign investments by $ 32 billion

Friday, August 9, 2013-4: 07

At a time when Iraq political turmoil and sharp divisions, with bombings in several regions, preparing for his exit from Chapter VII of the United Nations, which has since been more than 23 years after its invasion of Kuwait.

This has allowed the United Nations to use military force against Iraq because he acted in a manner prejudicial to international peace and security, in addition to the economic sanctions and the freezing of funds, and to prevent trade minimal, severance of diplomatic relations.

According to the international resolutions expected to achieve that step in 2015 after payment of all reparations imposed by the United Nations and about $ 52 billion, but it seems that the improvement of relations with Kuwait, especially after the visit of Kuwaiti Prime Minister Sheikh Jaber Mubarak Al-Sabah in Baghdad last June and signed a package of agreements in political, economic, cultural and environmental, has accelerated the collapse of the black page, and move to a new stage.

Kuwait informed the Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban Ki-moon of positive developments require a decision to move Iraq from Chapter VII to the sixth item, must continue to pay the remaining amount of compensation of $ 11 billion.

What are the positive developments that Iraq is looking forward to the next stage after their liberation from the terms and conditions and penalties Chapter VII of the United Nations?

According to a poll by the Merrill Lynch-Bank of America "and is one of the largest u.s. banks, show that Iraq tops the list more developed economically, it will bring in 2013 a GDP growth of 10.5%, followed by China with 7.7%.

The report noted that this growth is due mainly to the success of the Ministry of oil to raise production to 2.1 million barrels per day, and the result of rounds of licenses and contracts signed by the Iraqi Government with international oil companies to develop fields, knowing that Iraqi oil reserves hard around 112 billion barrels, the figure rises to 150 billion barrels of potential reserves, with the second largest oil reservoir in the world after Saudi Arabia.

Iraq has huge oil potential, out of seventy-four discovered fields and list, only 15 have been exploiting the fields, exploited oil fields alone need large amounts of investments and reforms before they can resume full production.

In this context, Iraq implemented an integrated strategic plan extending from 2012 to 2030, the energy sectors from oil to natural gas, electric power, and requires the implementation of the programme of development recommended strategy providing a capital expenditure of about $ 620 billion, government revenue is estimated at six trillion dollars, oil exports constitute 85% of them, as well as provide for Iraqis, 10 million jobs in important industries.

From here, Iraq looks forward to attract Arab and foreign investments after emerging from Chapter VII of the United Nations, and is expected to be the Chief of the Iraqi investment Sami Raouf Al-araji could turn out oil projects and huge service for the benefit of Gulf and foreign companies.

The number of companies registered with the Iraqi Ministry of trade until the end of 2012, more than 62,000, including the 1976 Arab and foreign companies, there are 740 projects valued at 32 billion dollars, and investment continue to map in two phases, each phase of five years, with a large number of oil and electrical projects under the assignment.

Al-araji said that some companies began sending its engineers and workers to Iraqi sites, operating without protection, is improved, especially since there are only a few areas the security situation permits.

The President of the Iraqi stock exchange, Taha Ahmed Abdul Salam, Arabic and foreign participation in the trading market soared to five percent, and increased the market value of the stock of 1 710 billion dollars in 2004 to about 5 598 billion in 2012 and then to more than $ 10 billion in the first half of 2013.

Investors benefit from exemptions from duties and taxes may not be available to them in the stable investment climates, but in this area draw experts working in the industrial development organization (UNIDO) to exempt companies from fees,

but it is not enough to attract investors to operate in Iraq, so the Government has created an enabling environment through single-window activation and decrease its steps for completing transactions, adding to the political stability, security and the eradication of corruption.


As is well known, some financial experts and the economy due to the failure of the Iraqi investment map due to the dominance of the characters important joints in the Government Center and the provinces, not for efficiency but for belonging to a particular party dominant power, that distinctive foreign companies cannot enter Iraq because of the economic chaos, political and security, and the absence of real guarantees by the State, as in the language of blackmail in the joints.

With the development of the investment highlights the role of the banks, despite political turmoil and security attacks, some foreign banks to open branches in Iraq after emerging from Chapter VII,

"the US Bank Citigroup and Standard Chartered of Britain were among the first to open branches to the fruits of investment projects, on the basis that banking laws adopted after 2003, and an appropriate ground legislation, investment and profits, opens the way for foreign banks to open branches without fear,

That could encourage investment companies to come to Iraq, despite their reluctance to invest their funds.

Within the framework of attracting investors and assure them the value of their investments, highlights the importance of ensuring monetary stability on the basis of the exchange rate is the focus of the State monetary policy and as a criterion for the economic activity and the evolution of the business and financial sectors and of the economy, and their effectiveness at the level of foreign trade relations.

Some financial experts believe the economy should exit Iraq from Chapter VII should have a positive effect on the dinar exchange rate against other currencies, particularly after a record collapse during the past years.

The dinar was equal to 3.26 dollars, but since 1980, was affected by the fallout from the Iran-Iraq war, then the economic blockade in the early 1990 's, the magnitude of the dinar in Exchange for pumping limited foreign exchange earnings that has led to the deterioration of the price paid to the dollar and other currencies,

after the occupation of Iraq and to allow it to increase its exports of petroleum and the lifting of the ban on its funds frozen the dinar began towards the dollar improved but is still low, is currently around 1160 dinars to the dollar.

In an attempt by the Government to improve the Iraqi currency, intended to delete the three zeros is pricing exchange rate 1.16 against the dollar, the dinar would replace the State budget $ 172 billion dinars, or the equivalent of about $ 150 million, and the Government is preparing to perform this step with the adoption of the "new dinar" requesting an order from the Central Bank to raise its value gradually down to be equal to the dollar.

You can order Government led by Nuri al-Maliki, facing opposition from more than half the Iraqi people living in "paradise" which seats and subsists in various State departments, including the Central Bank and contributed to waste billions of dollars of oil money? ......

Can the Iraqi economy despite the financial strength and solvency, social stability in light of the continuing lack of security and political stability? ...

Can reassure investors and attract them to participate in development projects to promote the country and protect national currencies deteriorate and return it to its previous value days of Saddam Hussein? ...

You have reached the Iraq budget 2013 to 138 trillion dinars (112 billion dollars), compared with 119 trillion dinars (about 97 billion dollars), a deficit of 20 trillion dinars (15 billion dollars).

This large deficit despite rising oil exports and calculate the price of a barrel of 90 dollars, knowing that Iraq is dependent on oil revenues to cover 95 percent of the budget.

Thus the deficit as inherent to the budgets, and the 2013 budget spared from such, and that the source of the real risk that, as a general rule, of the close link between the growth of the budget deficit and the growth of internal and external indebtedness. This may be the economy and subsequent budgets in a vicious circle with devastating consequences for the economy.

This can be seen clearly in balance in 2013 that deficit in previous years was a planning deficit covered from previous budget surpluses, but the budget deficit in 2013 is the inability of the scheme is funded as follows:

-11 trillion dinars from savings achieved in the Development Fund for Iraq.

-2 890 trillion dinars from special drawing rights.

-6 801 trillion dinars from borrowing (Treasury remittances versions) and the expected increase in crude oil prices.

-To continue borrowing from the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund to supplement the $ 5-6 billion dollars.

The resort to external borrowing and external funding sources when not enough internal funding sources to provide development requirements and provide for the basic needs of the population, but it's puzzling that Iraq resorted to external borrowing and debt trap again.   LINK