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Monday, August 5, 2013

PROJECT TO DELETE THE ZEROS HAS BECOME SUITABLE FOR LAUNCH, 5 AUGUST

Mahma Khalil Alsnjara: Vice-President of the Economic Commission project to delete the zeros and economic feasibility of the regional climate has become suitable for launch .. 

 Monday 05/08/2013 MP for Kurdish bloc Mahma Khalil Alsnjara Vice-Chairman of the Committee   Economic development in the House of Representatives by the Iraqi government to activate the decision to delete three zeros from the Iraqi currency ..  On the reason for the claim at this time Parliament Alsnjara said during his meeting with Sisterhood, saying:

 After the withdrawal of Iraq from Chapter VII see that the regional climate has become fit and there is no fear of currency counterfeiting or forgery, and this argument that upheld the government to stand against the activation of the resolution has become unjustified now as well as the Iraqi environment has become a fertile ground for investment for Iraq's possession of fourth power Global prompting companies global investment race in investing in Iraq as between Alsnjara that there are procedures to speed up activating the decision of which continue to pressure the government legitimately including resorting to constitutional provisions that allow printing of a new currency, and it is not reasonable to keep the Iraqi dinar weakened to this limit against the U.S. dollar, especially that Iraq's sovereign balance in international banks totaled $ 76 billion.

* In order to stand on the reasons for delay approval of the project to delete the zeros we met an economist and financial consultant Dr Majid picture, who told us the truth about the project and economic feasibility Almarjah the him, saying:

 In 2008, the Central Bank in agreement with the Ministry of Finance to do the studies necessary for the process of deleting three zeros from the Iraqi currency, and the purpose of this process is to restructure the local currency to reduce the cost of trading the currency and facilitate the handling and especially trading, medium and large, as well as multi-currency than fifty fils to (100) dinars will lead to facilitate the draw price policy in the country to be accompanied by practical package of measures has claimed responsibility for all government departments and state institutions and banks in order to find solutions to all the problems and issues that can result from the process of restructuring of the currency, including cash, accounting, security, as well as take the necessary measures to destroy the currency received, and most important of these issues is how to do therapy accounting for the deletion of zeros, and related market, Iraq Stock Exchange, said Suri was the experience of Iraq to replace the currency in 2003 is very rich, but will not exceed only change the shape of currency and replace it, and therefore did not encounter this process any accounting requirements or legal It is necessary to take some necessary measures in the case of structuring currency in order to get the results of the desirable, including education departments, banks and public usefulness of restructuring the currency and how to take the necessary measures in order to reach the planned objectives, including the use of technology by the relevant authorities in order to detect fraud that occurred formerly of the old currency.

*And the reasons that led to the suspension of work on the project Suri replied saying:

The central bank's decision to restructure the process a decision for monetary policy, the monetary authority (CBI) and was done in consultation with the Ministry of Finance, the Bank has taken all the measures relating to the restructuring of the currency, including design of currency denominations and the quality of paper used in currency, which is considered one of the finest types of paper Stainless cash or difficulty rigged, but the interference of the executive of its decision to postpone the process of restructuring the currency led to the suspension of all actions related to this project.

   Souri added:

 That undergo such decisions for political manipulation and skirmishes is not in the interest of monetary policy nor in the interest of the Iraqi economy and therefore non-specialists politicians not to manipulate or interfere in such decisions and be subject to speculations and between political factions warming internalized in power.

*And the most important benefits achieved by the project to delete zeros Giebna the economic Thamer Alheimus, saying:

Most benefit from the process of currency exchange deleting three zeros is the first easy trading and secondly and more importantly when you are distributing coins that are parts of the dinar will create a high elasticity of prices, for example, we now have a quarter dinars (250) smaller currency while will have after the deletion of zeros currency 50 fils or less, depending on the value of the dinar and therefore we can that between 1/4 dinars and 1/2 or less of the dinar, and this helps a lot in improving the incomes of lower segment of low-income people in particular.

 Perhaps in this case raises the purchasing value of the Iraqi dinar in general in the future, if there is a monetary policy sober at least have the dinar against the dollar as a target in the stage unforeseen, and certainly the rise of the dinar against the dollar will improve access to many of the families or social strata limited income.

*At the conclusion of our investigation we join our voices with the demands of the Economic Committee in the House of Representatives that calls for the activation of the project to delete the zeros for the benefit of the Iraqi monetary policy and all the Iraqi people, especially the poor and low-income people.

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THE GET TEAM CHAT, 5 AUGUST

GET:

[lgtennis] [FlyingStar] guys, just got off an intel call and verified for the umpteenth time that the cards are active over there 

[homesickjones] Ok lgtennis that means this week rv

[homesickjones] Period

 [lgtennis] homesickjones for internantional yes

[lgtennis] [FlyingStar] verified in baghdad and basra

[jonjobe7] the Chinese believe in the financial good luck of the number 8 and if Zap and Thing 1 & 2 are correct about China, i believe it will happen on 8-8

[DrRod] I post with permission. What I share is just my opinion. I have been researching this for years and share just one video which is a BRIEF history. There is much more... It is and has always been a global reset. 

The reason this has been so is because the Central Banks of the world control the world affairs. The Central Banks of the World are owned and operated by the Rothschilds and their partners. 

When the economic affairs are in the best position to make the largest profits are when things happen. 

Once the decision to release the announcement is made (probably made in BASEL, Switzerland (Ever wonder what Basel compliant meant?) which is the headquarters for all the Central Banks of the World, also known as the Bank of International Settlements) I would suggest that if you have the interest and the time to listen/watch the video.   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzyOtl4MDC4   

[DrRod] Do you remember the original book cover for the story The Godfather? It was a pair of hands holding the strings (a puppeteer), well that is what has been taking place AND will always take place. 

Someone (actually a group) is holding the strings. Follow the HUGE banks and power brokers, for they wait until things are the most favorable. Until things are just like the puppeteer wants it, it won't go.

Remember that those in power with vast amounts of money can out-wait anything. This is just my opinion. I respectfully share my thoughts.

TNT CHAT, 5 AUGUST

TNT:

[FlyingStar] GUYS, JUST GOT OFF AN INTEL CALL AND VERIFIED FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME THAT THE CARDS ARE ACTIVE OVER THERE

 [FlyingStar] VERIFIED IN BAGHDAD AND BASRA

FlyingStar] Keep in mind that NEWS doesn't always travel fast, if its supposed to be on the hush hush

[fuldon35] FlyingStar Since Tony said it was around midnight last night that they were trying, is it a good time to look for it tonight

FlyingStar] fuldon35 it can happen at any time at all

FlyingStar] This is moving in the right direction --- there has been no derailment since FRIDAY that I know of.

Snowbunny] Flyingstar that is great news

 [FlyingStar] Snowbunny It all is --- there is NO bad news at all. None.

[Iank1978] Lining up for 8/8 for finale IMO we are in the reset process now first part was Iraq RV to trigger the reset IMO

[JC1] I guess this matches the Tuesday-Thursday for RV days, doesn't it? That would mean all the stars are aligned finally?

[gilfonaire] I'm wondering if they're waiting for Canada's banks to open - we're closed today and don't all the banks have to sync at the same time?

[Iank1978] No one is holding up the RV at this point we are waiting for the reset to show its face :)

[Iank1978] I think at this point it's obvious "china" has a day in mind to release this...

JC1] good read on recaps from Millionday. Says activation was announced and also talks about the cards loaded. Says we should see this today, tomorrow. I'm guessing they are shooting for the 8th at the latest. What do you guys think?

[phase2] Millionday suggested we all watch the 7:30 EDT news - I don't know what is expected, but I plan to watch it. So thrilled with Tony's call today, and Millionday's post in DRecaps - also Strykers post in DDetectives. All good. Should be ASN ;-)

[Beamer] look...backs up Tony...>>millionday] so as we see they are announcing in the country that they have called for its activation the result of outside the country should bring it to reality in the rate but we shall see - they will not tell us the rate until it is there as we know their goal is 3.30 or around kuwait as they have said but we shall see at this point i dont care smile Fresh] millionday yup - activation - not going forward with revising the plan, etc - so much better!!! activation is what we are waiting for and there it is

millionday] they announced they were doing it but they have announced its activation today [wmawhite] millionday .....again,.the key + its activation. [sunnyca] millionday Wow - will the rest of the world be activated also? [millionday] wmawhite i would assume that they are -- normally we have the news after they have sifted through it except for the night news --- so it will be very interesting to see what is in tonight's news

mort - Just talked to my guy and he just told me the chinese had a bond of some kind that had to do with a tax treaty that had to be resolved and that was taken care of so we should see this any time now-RV WAS DONE IN IRAG AND WE ARE NOW JUST WAITING FOR IT TO GO INTERNATIONAL

NEWS DISCUSSION WITH KAP AND TLAR FROM DINAR ALERT FORUM, 5 AUGUST

Kaperoni Moderator:

Mehma Khalil CHITTA: Vice-Chairman of the Economic Committee draft delete zeros feasibility and regional climate is suitable for launch

Nahi Al Amri Monday, 05-08-13

The Kurdish bloc MP demanded mehma Khalil CHITTA, Vice Chairman In the House of the Iraqi Government to make the decision to delete three zeros from the currency. .. Why ask Parliament at this time during a meeting, said CHITTA Sisterhood:

After the departure of Iraq from Chapter VII regional climate became the appropriate and there is no fear of counterfeiting or forgery, and this argument that invoked the Government's stand against the resolution become unjustified activation now that Iraq has become a fertile environment for investment to own Iraq 1/4 world energy leading investment companies competing to invest in Iraq as the CHITTA that there are procedures to expedite the activation of the resolution, 
  to continue to pressure the Government to licit use Constitutional provisions that permit the printing of new currency, and it is not reasonable to keep the Iraqi dinar weakened to the limit against the u.s. dollar, especially since Iraq's sovereign credit banks totaled $ 76 billion.

* In order to identify the reasons for delaying the passage of the deletion of zeros we met economist and financial adviser Dr. Majid mock which tell us about the reality of project feasibility and almrget him, saying:

In 2008 the Central Bank in agreement with the Ministry of finance to do studies needed to process delete three zeros of the Iraqi currency, the purpose of this process is the restructuring of the local currency to ease the cost of currency trading and to facilitate handling and especially medium to large transactions,

as well as multiple currency of 50 Fils (100) will facilitate price policy in the country that the process is accompanied by a package of measures on all services and State institutions and banks to find Solutions to all the problems and issues that can result from the process of restructuring and cash currency, accounting, security,

as well as to take actions to destroy the currency received and the most important of these issues is how to do the accounting for the deletion of zeros, and the Iraq market for securities, mock said the experience of Iraq in Exchange 2003 is very rich but not beyond change currency format

And replaced, so this process has not encountered any accounting or legal requirements, it is necessary to take some necessary steps if the currency structure in order to get the desired results from the education departments, banks and the public the feasibility of restructuring the currency and how to take the actions necessary to reach the planned objectives, including technology used by the relevant authorities in order to detect the forgery of the old currency.

* And on the causes that led to the discontinuation of the project responded to mock:

The Central Bank's decision was the restructuring of the monetary policy decision process, the Monetary Authority (the Central Bank) and was in consultation with the Ministry of finance,

the World Bank has taken all actions concerning restructuring of their currency and currency design and the quality of paper used for currency,

which is one of the finest non-cash or paper difficult to forge, but the interference of the Executive in its decision to postpone the restructuring process of the currency led to the grounding of all procedures related to this project.

Mock said:

That such decisions are subject to manipulations and political skirmishes is not in the interest of monetary policy and not in the interest of the Iraqi economy and therefore non-politicians not to manipulate or interfere with such decisions and the biddings and warming between political factions in power.

* The most important benefits of the project to delete zeros economic answer THAMER alhims saying:

Highlighted the usefulness of the currency switch to delete the three zeros is the first easy handling and secondly and more importantly, while the distribution of coin which are parts of the dinar will create high flexibility of prices, for example, we now have a quarter of dinars (250) smaller while we will work after you delete the zeros do 50 Fils or less,

depending on the value of the dinar and therefore can we put a price between 1/4 and 1/2 dinars or less, and this helps a lot in improving the incomes of lower From low-income families in particular.

Perhaps in this case raise the purchasing power of the Iraqi dinar in General in the future, if there is a solid monetary policy at least have the dinar against the dollar as a goal in perspective, and certainly the rising dinar against the dollar would improve access for many families or social groups with limited income.

* In conclusion our investigation we join with the demands of the Parliament's Economic Committee, which calls for the activation of the deleted project, of zeros in the interest of Iraq and the monetary policy of the Iraqi people, especially the poor and low-income people. LINK

Kaperoni Moderator:  Gotta love how they are afraid to call Maliki out...

"but the interference of the Executive in its decision to postpone the restructuring process of the currency led to the grounding of all procedures related to this project."

Punisher:  Awesome find Kap! This article say alot of great things...things we want to and like to hear. Come on G.O.I. and C.B.I...make Iraq the force it can be in the world and a donor nation!

BlueyesinLevis:  Good news. Thanks for the call last night , Kap. Your hard work is greatly appreciated

Kaperoni Moderator: I think we are pretty much assured that this original plan will not go forward.  The IMF statements supporting the CBI's... "liberalization of the foreign exchange market" are now the priority.  Though Mahma Khalil wants it, its not going down this way, Maliki made sure of that.   The date is August 5th.   Iraq does dates backwards.

BlueyesinLevis:  OR maybe not.. is that august 5th? I'm confused by the arabish once again. :)

Punisher:  Blueyesinlevis, this is from today Monday August 5th :) Over two weeks so far since Turki made that deal with the banks....

BlueyesinLevis:   So the Kurds are now blaming Maliki.... and backing the currency reform... it's always something new, huh?

Kaperoni Moderator:  Blue, we have stated last year, about May 2012, that Maliki stopped Shabibi, not once, but twice in his plan.  We went on to prove it showing factual proof there were no Council of Minister minutes to the effect saying they wanted Shabibi to stop, yet Maliki said the "CoM demanded him to stop."

In other words, Maliki didn't want Shabibi go ahead at that time...primarily because he has a "weak dinar policy."  This article also confirms that.   The reasons for this are not exactly known, but we can guess why.

Since that time, it was announced their was a change in plan..and the float was born.  Subsequent articles ever since last June or so totally support the float  or "floating orbit of exchange."

And as well, we just talked extensively on last night's CC about the IMF directive and support of the CBI to "liberalize the foreign exchange" market...which will initiate the float.

The Kurds want value to the dinar.  I am sure they don't want to wait 6-12 months for the dinar to reach 1 to $1 or about, since their own economy is much further ahead of the rest of Iraq.  But, it appears that the float is coming and that is what will ocur. 

I don't see any change in Maliki policy or some "sudden" desire to give "overnight" value to dinar.  He knows he has to go international to get private  investment for the success of the free market economy, IMO, is he doing the minimal he needs to accomplish that..which is a float and acceptance of IMF Article VIII.

DarbSalad:  Maliki must be delusional. You would think he might have an interest in building some goodwill. His days are numbered and will probably met a similar fate as Gaddafi. Maliki is much weaker than Gaddafi.

BlueyesinLevis:  Yep.. I get that and have followed that... what I was referring to, badly apparently, was that the Kurds just issued a statement backing Maliki

"The Kurdistan Alliance was announced on Sunday, expressed his support for Prime Minister Nouri Maliki, the third mandate Government, emphasizing the lack of a legal provision in the Constitution was opposed to it"..

 but in this article they are calling for the currency reform and are blaming him for the holdup .... two seemingly conflicting  positions within a day or so.

ZenMav Moderator:  I don't have a problem with both, Blue.  The Kurds supporting a 3rd term means that Maliki starts campaigning and gets the currency reform going.  And, blaming him for the problems also is aimed at getting him campaigning or publicly blaming others for his failures, and that is just weak and embarrassing.  Playing both sides of the street makes sense right now.

mexia74:  It would appear that the Kurds are not necessarily saying they "support" Maliki, but that it is probably not constitutional to prohibit him from running. They are probably assuming he has no chance of winning a

Newbie:  The Kurds may be supporting Maliki for a third term to get what they want out of him. Like a trade off.  Just quessing. Looks like it maybe the case to me reading the posts. Okie Dokie!

Punisher: I think Mexia74 is correct.

Tobyboy:  I think they are supporting Maliki because Barazanni is going also run for the third term so if Maliki not able run than Barzanni also can not run why the support. JMO

Carrello:  Mexia is correct.  The article stated due to the constitution, they could not deny Maliki from running.  I think the translation was misleading.  If you look at the recent news, and especially one article today quoting the SOL vp, the SOL will not allow Maliki to run again.  It is similiar to a "over my dead body" moment.

Sadie: I believe Barzanni has already received an additiional 2 years....And I agree with Carrello, & Mexia

Carrello:  Mahma Khalil Alsnjara: Vice-President of the Economic Commission project to delete the zeros and economic feasibility of the regional climate has become suitable for launch

Nahi Ameri  Monday 05/08/2013

MP for Kurdish bloc Mahma Khalil Alsnjara Vice Chairman of the Committee in the House of Representatives by the Iraqi government to activate the decision to delete three zeros from the Iraqi currency .. On the reason for the claim at this time Parliament Alsnjara said during his meeting with Sisterhood, saying:

After the withdrawal of Iraq from Chapter VII see that the regional climate has become fit and there is no fear of currency counterfeiting or forgery, and this argument that upheld the government to stand against the activation of the resolution has become unjustified

now as well as the Iraqi environment has become a fertile ground for investment for Iraq's possession of fourth power Global prompting companies global investment race in investing in Iraq as between Alsnjara that there are procedures to speed up activating the decision of which continue to pressure the government

legitimately including resorting to constitutional provisions that allow printing of a new currency, and it is not reasonable to keep the Iraqi dinar weakened to this limit against the U.S. dollar, especially that Iraq's sovereign balance in international banks totaled $ 76 billion.

* In order to stand on the reasons for delay approval of the project to delete the zeros we met an economist and financial consultant Dr Majid picture, who told us the truth about the project and economic feasibility Almarjah the him, saying:

In 2008, the Central Bank in agreement with the Ministry of Finance to do the studies necessary for the process of deleting three zeros from the Iraqi currency, and the purpose of this process is to restructure the local currency to reduce the cost of trading the currency and facilitate the handling and especially trading, medium and large,

as well as multi-currency than fifty fils to (100) dinars will lead to facilitate the draw price policy in the country to be accompanied by practical package of measures has claimed responsibility for all government departments and state institutions and banks in order to find solutions to all the problems and issues that can result from the process of restructuring of the currency,

including cash, accounting, security, as well as take the necessary measures to destroy the currency received, and most important of these issues is how to do therapy accounting for the deletion of zeros, and related market, Iraq Stock Exchange,

said Suri was the experience of Iraq to replace the currency in 2003 is very rich, but will not exceed only change the shape of currency and replace it, and therefore did not encounter this process any accounting requirements or legal It is necessary to take some necessary measures in the case of structuring currency in order to get the results of the desirable,

including education departments, banks and public usefulness of restructuring the currency and how to take the necessary measures in order to reach the planned objectives, including the use of technology by the relevant authorities in order to detect fraud that occurred formerly of the old currency.

* And the reasons that led to the suspension of work on the project Suri replied saying:

 The central bank's decision to restructure the process a decision for monetary policy, the monetary authority (CBI) and was done in consultation with the Ministry of Finance,

the Bank has taken all the measures relating to the restructuring of the currency, including design of currency denominations and the quality of paper used in currency, which is considered one of the finest types of paper Stainless cash or difficulty rigged, but the interference of the executive of its decision to postpone the process of restructuring the currency led to the suspension of all actions related to this project.

Souri added:

That undergo such decisions for political manipulation and skirmishes is not in the interest of monetary policy nor in the interest of the Iraqi economy and therefore non-specialists politicians not to manipulate or interfere in such decisions and be subject to speculations and between political factions warming internalized in power.

* And the most important benefits achieved by the project to delete zeros Giebna the economic Thamer Alheimus, saying:

Most benefit from the process of currency exchange deleting three zeros is the first easy trading and secondly and more importantly when you are distributing coins that are parts of the dinar will create a high elasticity of prices,

for example, we now have a quarter dinars (250) smaller currency while will have after the deletion of zeros currency 50 fils or less, depending on the value of the dinar and therefore we can that نسعر between 1/4 dinars and 1/2 or less of the dinar, and this helps a lot in improving the incomes of lower segment of low-income people in particular.

Perhaps in this case raises the purchasing value of the Iraqi dinar in general in the future, if there is a monetary policy sober at least have the dinar against the dollar as a target in the stage unforeseen, and certainly the rise of the dinar against the dollar will improve access to many of the families or social strata limited income.

* At the conclusion of our investigation we join our voices with the demands of the Economic Committee in the House of Representatives that calls for the activation of the project to delete the zeros for the benefit of the Iraqi monetary policy and all the Iraqi people, especially the poor and low-income people.   LINK
WEDREAM:  barzani is looking to run as  president of iraq the position he currently holds is president of kurds  so not a 3rd term totally different office  & he is correct the constitution was written so that the prime ministers position has no term limits . where as the presidential term is written with 2 term limit .

these idiots cant even get together long enough to amend the constitution to limit the guy they all say they want out.things that make you go hmmm ?

Carrello:  Yes, there are many things that make me go hmmmm?

Tlar:  It seems pretty obvious that these guys have not received the memo that the currency is going to float.  Neither has the parliamentary economic committee nor has the finance committee.  This article again is about deleting the zeros.

 It even goes so far as to reference the 2008 study which was the original plan that Shabibi was attempting to accomplish.  I just don't understand how all of these guys could be that far out of the loop that they don't know the plan is a float.  Especially since Turki had just met with them.  It is something that makes you go hmmm.

Dinarful:  Thanks again Kap for the conference call last night!  You make these articles so much clearer for me!

MILLIONDAY CHAT, 5 AUGUST

Millionday Roundtable 8/5/13

    millionday] wow we sure do have some good news today welcome to roundtable if you are ready to get done and get rid of your dinar say -- amen

    millionday] Economic development in the House of Representatives by the Iraqi government to activate the decision to delete three zeros from the Iraqi currency .

On the reason for the claim at this time Parliament Alsnjara said during his meeting with Sisterhood, saying: After the withdrawal of Iraq from Chapter VII see that the regional climate has become fit and there is no fear of currency counterfeiting or forgery, and this argument that upheld the government to stand against the activation of the resolution has become unjustified now as well as

    [millionday] best part >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Economic development in the House of Representatives by the Iraqi government to activate the decision to delete three zeros from the Iraqi currency .

    [millionday] brb with the rest
     millionday] note -- and they are speeding it up >>>>>>>>>>>> the Iraqi environment has become a fertile ground for investment for Iraq's possession of fourth power Global prompting companies global investment race in investing in Iraq as between Alsnjara that there are procedures to speed up activating the decision of which continue to pressure the government legitimately including resorting to constitutional provisions that allow printing of a new currency, 

and it is not reasonable to keep the Iraqi dinar weakened to this limit against the U.S. dollar, especially that Iraq's sovereign balance in international banks totaled $ 76 billion

    [millionday] In order to stand on the reasons for delay approval of the project to delete the zeros we met an economist and financial consultant Dr Majid picture, who told us the truth about the project and economic feasibility Almarjah the him, saying

    [millionday] >>>>> note -- the truth is they didnt know how - here comes the reasoning to that

    [millionday] note -- with the stock market they didnt know what to do

    [millionday] In 2008, the Central Bank in agreement with the Ministry of Finance to do the studies necessary for the process of deleting three zeros from the Iraqi currency, and the purpose of this process is to restructure the local currency to reduce the cost of trading the currency and facilitate the handling and especially trading, medium and large,

 as well as multi-currency than fifty fils to (100) dinars will lead to facilitate the draw price policy in the country to be accompanied by practical package of measures has claimed responsibility for all government departments and state institutions and banks in order to find solutions to all the problems and issues that can result from the process of restructuring of the currency

    millionday] including cash, accounting, security, as well as take the necessary measures to destroy the currency received, and most important of these issues is how to do therapy accounting for the deletion of zeros, and related market, Iraq Stock Exchange, said Suri was the experience of Iraq to replace the currency in 2003 is very rich,

but will not exceed only change the shape of currency and replace it, and therefore did not encounter this process any accounting requirements or legal It is necessary to take some necessary measures in the case of structuring currency in order to get the results of the desirable,

including education departments, banks and public usefulness of restructuring the currency and how to take the necessary measures in order to reach the planned objectives, including the use of technology by the relevant authorities in order to detect fraud that occurred formerly of the old currency.

    [millionday] see even their schools would have to change everything -- as they are saying here -- they were completely overwhelmed - as we know the goi and the cbi had to work together or it wouldn't be able to be done --  power really was not the issue -- it is working together to get it done right

    [millionday] And the reasons that led to the suspension of work on the project Suri replied saying: The central bank's decision to restructure the process a decision for monetary policy, the monetary authority (CBI) and was done in consultation with the Ministry of Finance,

the Bank has taken all the measures relating to the restructuring of the currency, including design of currency denominations and the quality of paper used in currency, which is considered one of the finest types of paper Stainless cash or difficulty rigged, but the interference of the executive of its decision to postpone the process of restructuring the currency led to the suspension of all actions related to this project.

    [millionday] That undergo such decisions for political manipulation and skirmishes is not in the interest of monetary policy nor in the interest of the Iraqi economy and therefore non-specialists politicians not to manipulate or interfere in such decisions and be subject to speculations and between political factions warming internalized in power. * And the most important benefits achieved by the project to delete zeros Giebna the economic Thamer Alheimus, saying:    [millionday] and then the coins as well

    millionday] Most benefit from the process of currency exchange deleting three zeros is the first easy trading and secondly and more importantly when you are distributing coins that are parts of the dinar will create a high elasticity of prices, for example, we now have a quarter dinars (250) smaller currency while will have after the deletion of zeros currency 50 fils or less, depending on the value of the dinar and therefore we can that between 1/4 dinars and 1/2 or less of the dinar, and this helps a lot in improving the incomes of lower segment of low-income people in particular

    [millionday] smile  smile   anyone excited yet ?    smile there is more

    [Domino] millionday I would love to be & if you say so I will be but don't understand all that so don't know why

    [momface] Do they ever say When? Lol

    [[millionday] they are activating the exchange of the currency

    [bluedog2] millionday NOW!?!

    [millionday] oh that is something to be excited about but there is more too so brb

    [Domino] So I'm guessing they didn't know how - got some help - worked it out and are ready to go right?

    [millionday] Perhaps in this case raises the purchasing value of the Iraqi dinar in general in the future, if there is a monetary policy sober at least have the dinar against the dollar as a target in the stage unforeseen, and certainly the rise of the dinar against the dollar will improve access to many of the families or social strata limited income.

* At the conclusion of our investigation we join our voices with the demands of the Economic Committee in the House of Representatives that calls for the activation of the project to delete the zeros for the benefit of the Iraqi monetary policy and all the Iraqi people, especially the poor and low-income people.

    [millionday] so as we see they are announcing in the country that they have called for its activation

    [millionday] the result of outside the country should bring it to reality in the rate but we shall see - they will not tell us the rate until it is there

    [millionday] as we know their goal is 3.30 or around kuwait as they have said but we shall see  at this point i dont care  smile

    Fresh] millionday yup - activation - not going forward with revising the plan, etc - so much better!!!

    [millionday] activation is what we are waiting for and there it is

    LBnFL] Well, at least TALK of activation... Sorry, but seeing is believing.

      [letsroll] sounds excellent hearing them talk about the LD's .. whoop whoop

    [millionday]    and then we have this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..   Resumed the board of national pension issue smart cards to card for retirees after a hiatus of more than a year and a half, but this time set up to card issuing within the body to facilitate the release, which should have been done in the banks and the difficulties great for the elderly, said Ahmed Abdul-Jalil al-Saadi Chairman of the National for retirement that the resumption of release came after large orders,

which delivers it to a group of retirees they need to take advantage of laundry services card that will help their counterparts who possess in receiving their salaries away from the pressure of congestion banking, extortion and

    [schmidtberger] sorry...had to step away...did i miss the good stuff?

    [millionday] they are loading the cards

    [millionday] money damaged as well as being Setsttion the use of new services and added Saadi that the Commission agreed with Qi Card to open centers issue in all circles retirement in Iraq to facilitate the task of the citizens of his part, Bahaa Abdel Hadi Managing Director for Card said the company is committed to providing facilities to issue typical for retirees in terms of processing and the provision of comfort to citizens during the wait in terms of cooling the halls and the provision of water and places to wait suit The services of these

    [millionday] schmidtberger they have activated the removal of the three zero currency  and the change of the rate

    [schmidtberger] Whoop whoop!!

    [millionday] they have announced this to the citizens   law of infrastructure

    [The s family] I thought the removal of the zeros was already being done

    [millionday] Demanded economic analyst nice Abdul Salem Okkaily, the House of Representatives need for the enactment of the infrastructure because of its great importance in the implementation of a lot of service projects for the country. And said Okkaily (of the Agency news) on Monday: that the law will bring infrastructure discreet international companies that have a long tradition in the implementation of service projects and private infrastructure in a payment on credit and for soft repay

    [millionday] The s family they are bring out the lower denoms and the coins

    [wmawhite] millionday ....we hope that this announcement is "after the fact"....................that they are already well into it.

    [millionday] they announced they were doing it but they have announced its activation today

    [wmawhite] millionday .....again,.the key + its activation.

    [sunnyca] millionday Wow - will the rest of the world be activated also?

    [millionday] wmawhite i would assume that they are -- normally we have the news after they have sifted through it except for the night news --- so it will be very interesting to see what is in tonight's news

    [millionday] sunnyca the rest of the world for what hun?

    [wmawhite] millionday ...true....I do not believe that they give anybody a "heads up" or any lead time.

    faith1] millionday ,, could it be activation for the Holiday after Ramadan ??? !!

    [wmawhite] sunnyca sunnyca ......there is no such thing as a world basket of currencies.

    [millionday] right -- the world news will talk about it after the fact -- most will make their money off the stock exchange and the gains involved in the joining of their isx

    [sunnyca] millionday they have activated the removal of the three zero currency 10:36 AM [millionday] and the change of the rate 0:37 AM [millionday] they have announced this to the citizens This looks like they activated the rate in country. Is that mistaken?

    [dinarmamma] millionday when do we and they exchange?

    [sunnyca] wmawhite I thought MD was saying the rate was announced in addition to the removal of the zeros/

    [millionday] sunnyca they are telling the citizens that they have activated the exchange of the dinars process now and the change in the rate is a result of that hun --

    [sunnyca] millionday okay ty

    [millionday] smile  - the world exchange rates will be effected by the change in their currency and the set rate they apply for trade  - this is very good

    [wmawhite] millionday ....interesting timing........the end of Ramadan.

    [millionday] and the second report is also to the citizens -- they have resumed the loading of the cards very interesting  in their religion-- the ramadan feast is a time of gifts

    ][millionday] let me see if i can find anything else

    [bluedog2] millionday The feast is on the 8th is it not?

    [millionday] brb

    [werblessed] millionday would you allow me a question

    [millionday] activation is a whole different animal from they are done with the plan or in the coming days or blah blah -- roundtable is all about questions hun -- of course

    [millionday] bluedog2 yes i believe you are right  7 -11  is holiday i believe i have to look and see i have so many dates in my head

    [millionday] it is saying that they have announced to citizens that they have activated the whole process of pulling in the three zeros and putting out the lower denoms and coins

    [dinarmamma] millionday use simple terms for us lay peeps please lol

    [werblessed] Rudie thanks for copying i will need it to read and reread

    [dinarmamma] millionday thank you

    [momface] Thats the question.... how long until we see the effect of the activation..

    [bluedog2] anonymous1 [millionday] they announced they were doing it but they have announced its activation today

    [dinarmamma] millionday yes when when??

    [millionday] and the cards are loaded and they have most done and the people have money on their cards -- the rate will be set - the question is -- when is the rate set to the rest of the countries

    [booboo] when will we see the rate change?

    [millionday] today or tomorrow  the next day

    [wheresmyRV?] Wow talk about a great day chalked full of good news!!!

    [millionday] it is activated so now we wait to see the rate   brb

    [Fresh] millionday important to note that everyone here at PI should stay very grounded and not do anything crazy to disrupt their lives until we see rate changed on CBI website, etc

    [millionday] there is a holiday coming up but money is on cards

    [millionday] The parliament Economy & Investment Committee ruled out possibility of emerging an economic crisis due to the unstable security in Iraq. Economists had warned of a backwardness that might befall the economy in Iraq if the security deterioration would continue.

The Economy Committee's Rappateur, Mahma Khalil stated to All Iraq News Agency (AIN) "We do not think Iraq will suffer economic crisis, especially since many countries are building their economies depending on Iraq's economy as it enjoys considerable financial reserve and surplus."

    [anonymous1] surplus ... like the sounds of that

    [millionday] "Iraq has promising economy in future if the government takes sound measures with regard to enacting laws and rehabilitating the banking system and eliminating the routine and the corruption," he emphasized.

    [anonymous1] this is a definite maybe for this week lol

    [millionday] anonymous1 oh yes it is a definite maybe for this week – lol  we will be here for tonights newstime at 730 est  be here and dont miss any news 

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 5 AUGUST

8-5-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    THE ONLY ISSUE NOW APPARENT SEEMS TO BE ONLY THE RELEASE FROM THE BANKS WHICH COULD OCCUR AT THEIR LEISURE.  I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING THIS AND OTHER ISSUES MAY BE FORTHCOMING FROM THE SEC OF TREASURY. THIS ANNOUNCEMENT CAN BE MADE AT ANY TIME NOW.  WITHOUT SPECIFYING A DATE, I CAN SAY WE HAVE NEVER NEVER NEVER BEEN IN A BETTER POSITION THAN WE NOW FIND OURSELVES IN. I DO NOT KNOW THE DATE OR RATE FOR CERTAIN---(YET).  [post 2 of 2]

8-5-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    GOOD MONDAY AMERICA, SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR WORLD WIDE FRIENDS. WELL AS OF THIS MOMENT REGARDING ANY DELAYING FACTOR (IF IT'S STILL PRESENT) I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A CHINESE BOND AND INTERNATIONAL TAXATION TREATY ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED ONLY YESTERDAY. THE RELEASE OF THE BONDS MAY HAVE A REFLECTION ON WHERE WE STAND PRESENTLY. THE ASTRONOMICAL FIGURES WAS STATED AS BEING 600 TRILLION DOLLARS (YEP, YOU READ IT RIGHT).  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

8-5-2013  Intel Guru TerryK    I CALLED OUT 3 OF MY MAIN SOURCES LATE LAST NIGHT THEY GOT A LITTLE PISSED AT ME BUT LIKE YOU ALL IM JUST FRUSTRATED.  I HEARD JL [JACK LEW] IS SPEAKING TODAY.  DON'T HAVE CONFIRM THOUGH.    HERE IS WHAT I THINK HAPPENED, I THINK THE CARDS MAYBE LOADED BUT NOT USABLE YET.  MY GUY IN IRAQ HAS GONE MIA THE LAST FEW DAYS.  [Looking back at some notes I took back in 2008, Shabibi had said that he wanted the Iraqis to have their RV for up to two weeks before it becomes international. I THINK THAT WAS CHANGED LATER TO TWO DAYS.

8-5-2013  Newshound Guru Millionday    the problem is that the gov has a budget and they have to go by the agreed on budget so cbi has been trying to make the government stick to the issues at hand...  ...new staff was placed to open the currency and the trade of iraq to the world fairly and also to get it done as in multi wealth management.   the imf is wanting to help in this and make sure it is done correctly because...the entire globe is depending on this.  [post 2 of 2]

8-5-2013  Newshound Guru Millionday    [Does Iraq have to be fully ascended into WTO to raise the value of their currency?]  no -- its the other way around -- they have to have tradable currency and be compliant.  there is a problem with cbi and the gov and this is what it is -- they are trying to separate the power of the gov and the dinar and the power of cbi and the dinar...  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

8-5-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   [Could the statement that Iraqis would have the most prosperous Ramadan ever have been referring to the cards loading and not the RV?]   I don't know. The Qi card program is not even close to being properly functional.  [What is your opinion of (Gurus) Kap and Enorrste saying we have quite a long time to wait yet?]  there's no guarantee of that. In fact, I feel we are in for some change fairly soon - no matter what.  [u still really excited or cautiously excited or neither?]   both.  [post 3 of 3]

8-5-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   [if it comes out at 1.15 how long till 3+,  IYO]   a year.  [do you honestly think we will only get 1.15]    I'm hoping it doesn't start that low...but I do think it will take a while to get to the "natural value" of the Dinar.  [if the IMF gave them the go ahead for 3.22+ , why would they not do that , even with someone else in charge?]  They haven't been given the "go ahead" for that rate - that I know of.   [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

8-5-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG  [Do you think Maliki is playing ball with the IMF?]  not only is he playing - he's the PITCHER!!  several very good sources all agree - that Maliki is the one trying to get this done (ironically) and at a bit higher rate than the rest - he's wanting above 2 bucks.  [Why is Maliki suddenly playing ball?]  obviously - he's in a bad way. He needs to be a hero - or he's toast.  personally, I think Maliki being very cooperative on the rate is SIGNIFICANT...and you all know my feelings on him.

TONY'S CC RECORDED LINK & NOTES, 5 AUGUST

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[FLPatriot59] TONY - Good morning TNT!

T - we've got some good news, some great news and some super fantastic news!

MOD - after tonight there will be new numbers to high-capacity lines (5,000 each). As soon as we get those numbers they will be published everywhere.

T - I'm going to Q&A real quick after I share this info with you. Here's the truth as I was given this morning: I got a call about the cards being activated (or not) over the weekend. [story about the blind man & the color of the sky].

T - where people get their info is different. That's their info - doesn't mean it's wrong, it's just from different sources. The cards DID go live in the Kurdistan region. Days before I told you the contractor's cards were live.

T - how can one region be at 3.44 and another at 1166? Maybe they're going in regions as they load the cards and they haven't gotten to everyone yet. It's not our country - this is how they do it.
T - over the weeked more and more cards came out loaded & activated and people are using their cards today, all over the weekend; they have changed their prices in the markets to reflect 3.44! Did Iraq have an RV? Yes, evidently they did.

T - they didn't make a big deal about it because it's not international yet. How long can it go?

T - how come there isn't news all around the world about it? Because there are still some things going on and it was done to calm the masses. They knew they had to do something to calm everyone down.

T - We get lots of intel from 2nd and 3rd parties. But this time I went to the bank and talked to the security guy first hand and he knew. A neighbor of mine 3 doors down called me and told me his family is rich (in Iraq). This is not 3rd-hand intel. This is real life.

T - Why don't we see it this moment? Could be a banking thing. It could show up in the next hour. We know it's closer and closer each day because it's now live.

T - there is a live rate in Iraq at 3.44 right now and the int'l rate will be higher.

T - Some people said this would never happen during Ramadan. We are still in Ramadan and it's happening right now. They are spending it right now. Whether it was forced or by design, this is what is happening right now.

T - One bank has gone back to their regular schedule and another bank has been given the time it will happen today - but everybody is frustrated. Whatever happens next won't involve Iraq. They have their RV now. It just has to go int'l.

T - There were some procedure changes at the bank. Some banks were notified yesterday that their CE procedures would change, that there's no need to negotiate because the rates are so great. The competition in that has changed. The US did not do all of this so one bank would get rich.

T - the banks will be competitive and you can have a group at any bank you can choose. They will offer you more incentives and perks and change the spreads for you. Wealth Managers & Private Bankers will have the authority to negotiate up front.

T - it's all good news & things happened in Dinarland over the weekend. If I need to address that I will.

[FLPatriot59] q & a beginning now      c = caller | t = tony

C - Is it necessary to join a group (Generals64/Studley) to get the best rate? T - I talked to the guys doing the 800#. They'll ask you for your name, zip code & how much IQD you have. At no time will they ask for your email. People trying to collect email address is ridiculous.

T - he's telling me and you call that number (which will be out there for everyone) - all banks, not just WF, you can call the number of the bank you want to work with to setup your appointment. I don't know what that group is doing, but I'm telling you what the bank guys are telling me.

T - I'm not trying to destroy anything anyone has done, just giving you the info as I have received it.

C - How concerned should we be about the integrity of the USD over the next few months? T - we should be okay. As I've told you before there are other things being done worldwide that will weaken the USD, so you just have to pay attention. It won't be in the news. It has to take a dip... ...for those countries to come up then it will level off.

T - the way the new currencies are printed and used inside and outside the country, will be more like Iraq (in-country rate and outside rate).

C - what is your best guess about the VND? T - somewhere between .50 and $1. But I know the ceiling rate is over $1.

C - Are you familiar with the private placement options and can you rank them? T - Reno guys are doing a private placement vs. a currency exchange; group rates when you join or form a group; street rate is what the banks will offer; then there are the exchangers.

[FLPatriot59] T - if the banks do what they said they'd do and raise the street rates, that levels the playing field for the exchangers.

C - what can we invest in that won't depreciate? T - there are key currencies that will appreciate over time; under the new system under the IMF we will see this again. But I can't talk about it today.

C - can you tell us more details about bank procedures? Tiers, leveling of the field, etc.? T - their tiers and the tiers you're hearing about are not the same; there will be a street rate, a group rate, and a private bank rate. Inside the group rate there are 3 tiers. As soon as it RVs I can tell u



T - I will tell you have to beat the bank and test the 3 tiers so you'll know what to look for in the future. Why is all this changing? To level the playing field - 30 days to do it, people said this was wrong. They pulled in their 3 zero notes and they can decide when to discontinue.

T - this morning, per a gov't office, he said it's signed and done and they're changing the rules to level the playing field so this could get this done in a short period of time. Banks have put out a memo to their peopl that it's going to be a short period to CE.

C - is the new rate in the double-digits? T - yes, it supposedly is. This is a fluid situation and the timelines are negotiable.

C - if it's an in-country RV, can they double dip? T - where are they going to buy from? Only dealers in the US. CBI doesn't care since it's alerady sold.

C - the bank procedures have changed and there is the 30-day limit? T - yes, as of right now it is. It can change.

C - will this move from east to west when it happens? How will it move before it hits the USA? T - the moment it happens it will be everywhere. Timelines, i.e., Hawaii, markets opening/closing, etc. We know they're trying to do something. They did RV there to help the situation over there.

T - i know other countries wanted this done. I have heard they want this done today. We can't use anymore excuses like wait for the holiday over there, all those excuses are falling by the wayside. It's not up to them anymore. I'm hearing it's at the bank and it's ready to go.

C - what criteria will you use to send out the text message? T - when my bank people tell me the rate is "live" I'll know and I'll send out the text.

C - How will we know the GCR is completed? T - when we see the RV, we will know. The currencies will change rates & it won't be a period of days/weeks.

[FLPatriot59] {CALLER talking about how sure he was the RV would happen this past weekend, he picked out his house, Bentley, etc.

 [operadinar] FLPatriot59 What is GCR please?

 [FLPatriot59] Global Currency Reset

T - because Iraq is spending money, unloading ships, etc. the other countries are saying "let's go" and they don't want to wait.

C -the 2-minute call, will it include IQD or VND? T - just IQD. C - national news posted at CBI of sales of the USD rising on Sat & Mon? T - with everything over in the ME people can say it's happened but need a safety net just in case.



T - they've changed their banking laws over there and they can't take more than $10K outside the country; a lot of different things are happening over there. It will take time to begin spending and attitudes to change about their belief in the IQD.

C - if you had to guess, what's the hold-up? T - don't know. UST told me the banks have it, they're ready. Banks are ready. It went live briefly in the banks and they celebrated in their offices on Friday. Don't know what the holdup is. Whales are NOT CE'ing. it was a live test at 3AM.

T - everybody keeps saying it's going to happen today, so we are still waiting.

C - do you honestly think this could go another 5-10 days? T - I don't think it could. Now that they've done in-country to calm the disruptions there, they could wait to go int'l. But other countries are upset so there's no reason not to go.

C - Maliki can't stop it? T - correct, he can't do anything to stop it.

C - regarding the floors and ceilings on the rates, is there one for the general people who just walk in the bank? T - the floor is as low as it can go, and the ceiling is as high as it can go. They can negotiate with you anywhere in-between.

T - the rate the bank sets is nothing to do with what they will offer you. It it comes out at $10 they can still give you $13 if the ceiling is $18 (fictitious numbers!).

C - does all of this happen within the 30 days? T -I alwasy felt it could happen and last for 30 days. They see their rate coming out super-high in the first 30 days then, not that high again for 4-5 years.

C - if the VND is at a $1 celing, can I ask for $1.50? T - if you ask for the correct rate they are supposed to give it to you. You can go in and negotiate. But that will happen only with the private bankers who has a lot of VND.

T -they can negotiate the spread and are authorized to go down to 0.

C - what is the rate for outside country? T - it's 3.44 on everybody's card. Don't know the rate here. It's over $3 and I'm told it's in double-digits. They want it so attractive you'll run in and take what they offer.

C - timeframe? T -should have seen it yesterday. Banks are saying they're waiting on the UST. UST is saying we've already given it to them. Gov't agencies are mad at each other because they think each other is holding it up.

C - since this has already happened, they can't reverse anything and stop it, can they? T - no, it's only a matter of time for it to go int'l.

C - Good confirmation they have the money and are spending it? T - yes, my neighbor, merchants in IRaq, people in Parliament, older contacts, GOI contacts, etc. are confirming it's happening throughout the entire country.

C - any good reason this could drag out before going int'l? T - I don't see anything and I"m not told anything. Looking at it logically, if we're looking at last week when China, Russia, etc. is telling the US and Iraq they're going to force the RV & now it's happened in Iraq.....

C - any good reason this could drag out before going int'l? T - I don't see anything and I"m not told anything. Looking at it logically, if we're looking at last week when China, Russia, etc. is telling the US and Iraq they're going to force the RV & now it's happened in Iraq.....

.... how can we come back 3 days later and say countries haven't come to an agreement?? They wanted it done last week.

C - if it's not Iraq, UST and banks are ready, who do we think will give the "go ahead?" T - supposedly the IMF is done, it's been in the system 3-4 days and is working because they're spending it. Why we haven't seen it we don't know.

C - are there any indicators we should look at it, i.e., announcement from JL? Any true indicators? T - I've heard about the announcement supposedly at noon (where? which coast?). C - are we truly just waiting or is there anything we should watch for? T - we're told it's done.

T - one bank is telling their people it's today. Another bank is sending their people home. It can't be anything major causing us to wait after what happened at the UN last week.

[FLPatriot59] {caller wrote tony a song,....}

C - if the tariffs are in effect, doesn't that mean it's already int'l? T - should because they're unloading ships, but we don't know if they're going to back-date the tariffs.

C - what do you know about the Chinese bond? T – every week they have to fly to Reno and sign more docs, more gold shipped around, flying the elders in, etc. It's always a different excuse every week. It doesn't make any sense to me.

T - I'm not trying to be cyncial but we keep hearing the same thing over and over and nothing every changes when they sign 2 more documents......

C - please elaborate how an even exchange and tax issue will work. T - All I know is we are doing a currency exchange and our gov't is trying to put a 1-2% tax in place by the end of the year. And I'm hearing the WF group is taking 11% to cover taxes and fees.

C - how can the IRS tell us anything over $200 will be considered a capital gains tax? T - we won't know until they actually announce it.

C - My concern is regarding the groups. Is there going to be a special rate for groups? T - I think the group think is still there regarding that one bank we hear about; the other banks are going to negotiate group rates as well. They watch the boards and see this is causing a bottleneck...

...that's why they're trying to level the playing field. Once it RVs I'll have the rates for all the banks, not just one bank.

T - seems as though the group thing is being phased out. T - WF is not pushing it out there. But we hear other banks saying they will be competitive. 1 bank told their people they could not match the WF $12 rate. Today they took that away & said the rate is going to be so high you won't need to negotiate. They will be competitive on their own.

C - Will dealers/currency exchangers have the same rates as banks with the UST banking them? T - Let me clarify first: the banks are saying the rate will be outrageous and everybody will be competitive. If that's true then the exchangers will have that rate as well unless they go with the CBI rate.

C - what gives the bank the authority to level the playing field? T - first, the exchangers are sending their money back to the CBI. Our banks notes are backed by the UST. It is the UST telling them what we are doing because we have cut the time frame down.

C - regarding the 800#, will you be putting that number on your site? T - if they give it to me I will put it up there.

C - is that 800# ONLY for groups or can I call it just for myself? T - if you walk into a bank they will give you an 800# to call and make an appointment & they'll cash out a small amount. The other 800# you get from one of these sites is for the group rate.

C - If this has RV'd in Iraq, why hasn't the new value shown in my Warka account? T - if you have an int'l account maybe that's why it hasn't shown, but I"m not sure. Trying to get the answer to that.

C - Commodity Exchange vs. Currency Exchange? I've heard the WF/China exchange will be a Commodity Exchange. T - I've not heard that so we'll put it out there and maybe someone can help.

C - Not sure of state income tax? T - there might be residency requirements for 6 months so you need to check this out for the state you are interested in.

C - You said on Friday we can't see how this could go more than 10 days. When did that clock start? T - the 10 days is not for us, it was for Iraq. But it's done for them now so they don't explode; they are not protesting although some are. It's not about us anymore. Most have calmed down in Iraq.

C - With an event as large as it is in Iraq this past weekend (cards activated, ships being unloaded, etc.). how does this get overlooked by other intel people on other sites who say cards are not activated, no RV over there, etc.? Are they blind, deaf, etc? Vast difference in the info.

T - using the analogy of the blind man with 10 friends, you ask all of them the color of the sky. 8 of them say blue, 2 say pink. Same with the intel providers. 2 of the 10 will say something different. The difference is that I don't call 1 guy in Iraq and ask him about cards & rates......I call 8-10 people on base, off base, cab drivers who are friends of mine, merchants, etc. They're all telling me the same thing.

C - regarding the 30-day window, it's ridiculous. Some will let it run out. T - it's supposed to be a 2-year process and we've already burned thru 1 year collecting the notes. They had a plan but circumstances change and it got volatile there and something else had to be done.

T - they are telling me why they're doing what they're doing, raising the rates, to get it done. We will get the highest rate for 30 days. We're the only country with citizens authorized to do this and it can change tomorrow. But I'm giving you the news I have been told today.

C - thanking everybody....praying for everybody....

C - I've been hearing a lot about trust accounts. I'm told we're not supposed to co-mingle funds, i.e., fiat money, etc. and I have an empty trust account with no activity. Do we have to setup a brand new account at the time of the CE? T - Wrong info. You don't have to setup new accounts.

T - people are presenting things to you to help, they deserve to be rewarded. Just be honest and and don't try to scare people into doing things.

C - question about Okie's post about the bonds, Chinese, etc.? T - I know nothing about that. I mean really NOTHING about that.

T - we're just waiting to hear when this goes int'l. They are monitoring our calls and listening. C - whover is monitoring this call please get this done!

C - where is the doc from the CBI about the 10-day in-country and 30-day out country? T - it was a news article from Turki put out last week that he was ready to RV but the gov't wasn't allowing him to do it. He mentioned the 10-day and 30-day himself.

C - could this be a motivational thing (30-days) and then give us 60 days? 30-Days is really tight. T - Turki put it in his article.

C - on Friday you said something would happen really big after the RV. Is it good or not so good? T - We won't be excited; it's something over there which would justify the 3- days. It will want us to hurry up and CE in the 30-days. Remember, it's the ME and Iran got a new president. Look at Lybia!....look what happened to Syria. Look at Egypt when their guy was removed. I can't say anything else other than pay attention!

C - are you signed up with a group? T - no.

C - question abou banks taking unfair advantage and someone going after them. T - the changes were made to make sure the rates were available to everyone, to level the playing field. I did not say the banks would give everyone the group rate. If the CBI rate is $9, for example, the bank should........give that rate. But if a special interest group gets $11-$12 with restrictions/perks, that is a big difference.

T - the group rate will be good for some, but read b4 you sign anything. Explore brokerage accounts, know what it means to have 20-25% of your money locked for a period of time.

C - if these cards are activated at that rate, would we not see that on the ISX? T - you are not going to see it until it goes international

C - What sites will we see it on (4X, etc.) when it RVs? T - you won't see it on 4X. The banks are going to post it on their sites. This is not going to be breaking news in the USA. It's going to be just as quiet here as it was there.

C - when is Maliki's term up? T - sooner than he thinks.

T - people were issued their cards months ago. That's why they were so upset because until now they couldn't use them. If you have friends with relatives in Iraq tell them to call and verify. It DID RV IN IRAQ at 3.44 and their cards are active and they are using them.

LAST CALLER - the "coming out" rate will be the CBI rate? T - yes. C - the rate I'll see with my dealer is the CBI rate? T - they're going with the market rate, which is NOT the same as the CBI rate. It is driven by 4X or banks. Currency dealers will not negotiate with you. Their rate is their rate

C - I heard today the dealers will be open 24/7. True? T - hope it's true so they can compete with the banks.

T - We have some new numbers for you guys: they do not need access codes. 209-255-1500 (Q&A for 1,000 peeps); listen only (4,000 peeps) - 518-556-1500. These will be on the website, chat room and Forum.

T - we should now have all 10,000 people covered between the phones and the BlogRadio feed.

T - FINAL THOUGHTS: I think we're waiting, everything is done. I'm hearing over there they're done. The system is working or it wouldn't be working. I'm hoping to get our call today. I've already gotten texts during this call. Enjoy your day!

OKIEOILMAN UPDATE, 5 AUGUST

[..OKIEOILMAN] GOOD MONDAY AMERICA, SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR WORLD WIDE FRIENDS.

WELL AS OF THIS MOMENT REGARDING ANY DELAYING FACTOR (IF IT'S STILL PRESENT) I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A CHINESE BOND AND INTERNATIONAL TAXATION TREATY ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN ADDRESSED ONLY YESTERDAY.

THE RELEASE OF THE BONDS MAY HAVE A REFLECTION ON WHERE WE STAND PRESENTLY. THE ASTRONOMICAL FIGURES WAS STATED AS BEING 600 TRILLION DOLLARS (YEP, YOU READ IT RIGHT).

THE ONLY ISSUE NOW APPARENT SEEMS TO BE ONLY THE RELEASE FROM THE BANKS WHICH COULD OCCUR AT THEIR LEISURE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING THIS AND OTHER ISSUES MAY BE FORTHCOMING FROM THE SEC OF TREASURY. 
THIS ANNOUNCEMENT CAN BE MADE AT ANY TIME NOW.---BLESSINGS

[..OKIEOILMAN] ONLY A PARTIAL PART OF THE COMPLEXITY OF WHAT IS AND HAS TRANSPIRED IS JUST NOW COMING TO LIGHT. IT IS ALMOST TOO MUCH FOR THE FINITE MIND TO ABSORB.

[..OKIEOILMAN] IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY--READ IN DINAR RECAPS THE KNOWLEDGEABLE INFORMATION AN ATTORNEY HAS ADDRESSED REGARDING TAXATION AND TRUST ISSUES.

IT IS A VERY WORTH WHILE ENLIGHTNNG ARTICLE AND WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO ALL OF US.

(..OKIEOILMAN] WITHOUT SPECIFING A DATE, I CAN SAY WE HAVE NEVER NEVER NEVER BEEN IN A BETTER POSITION THAN WE NOW FIND OURSELVES IN.

I DO NOT KNOW THE DATE OR RATE FOR CERTAIN-------(YET).

EXOGEN UPDATE, 5 AUGUST

DIRECT INTEL 2:55 PM EST Posted by EXOGEN on August 5, 2013 at 2:55pm

THE IN COUNTRY REVALUATION IS COMPLETED

AND IT CAN NOT BE DELAYED FROM SHOWING UP

GLOBALLY MUCH LONGER.....................

COMMUNICATIONS ARE NOW "DARK" ON MANY LEVELS &

THERE WILL NOT BE AN ANNOUNCEMENT IN THE FORMAT PEOPLE

ARE EXPECTING & LOOKING FOR.

KCMANA, GENERALS64 & BWM CHAT, 5 AUGUST

[BWM] OK guys.. tonight we’ll go old school days and keep the chat open but PLEASE IM YOUR QUESTIONS TO ME so that we can avoid duplications…. we have 3 pages of questions cued up already and we want to get thru them as quickly as possible so please keep chatter down

[KCMana] First of all thank you to everyone here at 3sintel for allowing us the opportunity to share with the community.

[KCMana] I have been reviewing the events of the past couple of days and I am amazed at the humanity of it all. We have those who are trying to help, whether it’s a large group of strangers, their family members or friends. Many are “attempting” to follow the ever-changing thought process of what the rules are.

[KCMana] And then, we have the others. Those who continually like to stir the pot, cause confusion and promote their own agenda to the detriment of everyone around them. It doesn’t matter if you are in a small group or large group, these type of people appear everywhere. 
They are looking for self-promotion and are feeding their own egos and truly don’t care who they hurt in the process. I am going to say to everyone, PLEASE, just stop feeding their ego. If you tune them out and turn them off, they can’t hurt or confuse you. Eventually, they will get the message and go away.

[KCMana] So where are we really with the Generals64/Studley bank group? THIS IS IMPORTANT – We have not been hacked, we have not been compromised. We were flooded, our e-mail was flooded, our server was flooded it became overwhelming (again).

Could this have been malicious? Maybe, it could have been someone intentionally causing disruption but I like to believe several kind souls were attempting to help by imputing their friends, family or groups and many e-mail addresses were entered incorrectly.

I will attempt to go over most of the problems we have been facing with the e-mail system in this chat tonight.

[generals64] I’m here kiddo  hey…..We WILL NOT RUN NOR HIDE

[KCMana] I received multiple e-mails demanding to know who we are and what we are about. I want to stress to everyone “we” the Generals64/Studley bank group do NOT “owe” anyone anything. Understand, I am not being mean to anyone, I am not trying to “hurt your feelings”…. We just truly owe no one – NOTHING!

This is our quick history.  A small group in the OKC area joined together with a small group in KC to help OUR family and friends get the best rate. We decided that working as a UNITED front was better for each of us individually. We formed a group, we made friends in chat rooms and thought….”we could help them also.” 

It grew organically from there. So here we are now THE LARGEST organized “bank” group in DinarLand. What is our purpose? To help our family and friends – and now extended friends.

[KCMana] The confusion over the last few days has taken a great toll on me personally. Most people can’t understand what it is like to have 500-1500 e-mails at a time in your mailbox. The stress of the attacks from strangers, losing days you should be with your family.

This is what I have been faced with the last few days (and many times over the past few years).  I am really to the point I that I cannot read your e-mails. I have created a coined response that I use just to make it through the e-mails that continue to flood in.

I know YOU think it is just one e-mail, just one question…. but look in this room, look around DinarLand and the insanity that cascades out. Just one e-mail from each one of you is truly more than one person can handle.

I really don’t even want the thank you e-mails. As much as I appreciate them, I am way too overwhelmed right now to receive them. So, thank you for encouraging everyone to back off and just relax… Please let me catch up, and I have to get back to work. (You know the real job – that keeps the lights on). 

[KCMana] I believe most of you already know, this job of the Generals64/Studley leadership group is completely VOLUNTEER… but beyond that, we pay for a website, we pay to keep a list, we pay to help our group.

So when people imply that we somehow “owe” them something, I generally hit the roof. We are receiving NOTHING from the bank!!! I can’t stress that enough. They haven’t helped us with this process. They haven’t contributed in any way except to let us know that in the end (whenever that may be) OUR group will receive the best rate.

[KCMana] Why are we so “special” …. We haven’t caused problems. We don’t call the RV… ever! Sure, we have said “we feel like we are close,” but we don’t call it. We don’t stir up trouble. We stay focused on our goal to ensure the best possible rate for our family and friends. DinarLand just gets to reap the benefit of our hard work if they choose to.

[KCMana] I do want to address some of the concerns that have been cropping up. Yes it’s important to have your name on the Generals64/Studley bank group to receive the bank instructions directly from us…. Instead of a third party….

NOW WAIT, before you panic. MANY of you have groups of family and friends, some of whom are elderly and cannot access e-mail. We know that, and we understand that, and I truly believe, you will be just fine. When you receive your e-mail from us, those who are working with groups like this you may have to make a few phone calls to ensure everyone is covered, but there will be a way.

We aren’t here to leave anyone out in the dark. Now, those of you who were expecting to receive our e-mail from one of the “boards” I am now not sure that will be the case…. But remember this is a fluid situation and this too can change. I always like to look at things logically, why would the bank have someone put out this info?  Distraction?  Maybe…. To get a better headcount?  Maybe…. So in the future, let’s all take it down a notch. This is time for calm, slow down and think things through.

[KCMana] Someone put a post out that said you “had” to go to your personal link from our last e-mail message and update your information. REALLY!!! Come on, did you receive an e-mail from us asking you to do that… NO! So, why jump in with both feet and go crazy. I will make this promise, if we need our group to do something, we will inform you about it immediately.  We still have our message board, I do post info that our group may need. So visit it, please, before you send me thousands of e-mails.

[KCMana] Now let’s talk about our e-mail list – I used to send a monthly update, I had to stop that because it is far too time consuming. I have gone to a quarterly update, next one is due to go out in OCTOBER. I am using a bulk mail system. Gmail only allows you to e-mail up to 500 people in one day… so I had to go bigger and stronger to accommodate our load. Many e-mail providers try to control your spam by attacking/kicking/or bouncing e-mail from bulk servers.

[KCMana] This is NOT an invitation to e-mail me! This is NOT an invitation for you to add me to your e-mail list and send me jokes or intel. This is NOT an invitation for you to e-mail me telling me your life story, we all have one, I don’t need to hear it. This is not an invitation for you to share your MLM with me. I don’t want to Google talk, Facebook or tweet.

[KCMana] Understand, most of the e-mail I receive I will not answer. If it goes too far, you will be removed from our group.

[KCMana] So, you must do this on your own… ADD iqdgroup@generals64.info to your “safe sender” or “white” list.  If you don’t understand that, find a 15 year old to help you — or call your e-mail provider and ask them how to make sure you receive your e-mail from us. Yahoo, Hotmail, AOL are some of the WORST e-mail addresses to have for OUR system. They flag us, they can see the volume of mail coming from our IP address to thousands of their users…. They kick it back all the time. PLEASE DO NOT USE – Verizon, Blackberry or icloud addresses at all. Army.Mil or .EDU addresses do not work.

[KCMana] For those of you using a spam filter e-mail program like People PC, Earthlink, Mail Link, Total control, etc. I am NOT filling out any form to “ensure” I am a safe sender. You have this system, contact your e-mail provider to find out how to receive the group e-mails.

[KCMana] It’s truly time for everyone to pick themselves up and take personal responsibility. You must be capable of making your own decisions on how to exchange, where to exchange, how much to exchange. We are NOT here to hold your hand. Remember, we are here to get the best possible rate for our family and friends. If you want to be counted as a friend, act like one.

[KCMana] OK BWM – Thanks for letting me share… ready for questions
[generals64] Can I add something?
[KCMana] YES – generals64 please
[generals64] I love you guys dearly…..I get upset quickly but we are not in this for an ego trip…. There has been talk of “tier” rates…. They could be right, just bad terminology. There is a street rate and OUR group rate….  No one knows what it is and no one really knows the date.

[generals64] The group rate is exactly what we were targeting and that is a portion of the bank spread. Our original goal was to come up with 1 billion dinar…. that’s not a problem. You guys can see our girl has it under control and AndieZ works with her

[KCMana] generals64 – I agree, I do think it is important that people really understand NO ONE will know “when,” not us either
[generals64] the group will know immediately after we do though

[BWM] The purpose of tonight’s Q&A was specifically to answer questions about group exchange… As you know we don’t do date and rate so if you were looking for that answer, well… you know where you can go.  The questions will be laid out for the leadership to address as they like whether that be one or a number of them… so please be patient until we are done… Remember, you can continue to IM me questions during the chat

[KCMana] Much of our leadership is here… generals64, 4th-time, WileyMorgan
[BWM] Thanks again to Generals, KCMANA, wileymorgan and 4thtime (who appears to be having some trouble staying in) for joining us tonight.  Let’s get started…

[lostintx] Any way we can verify that we are still in the group? And any truth to the rumor about a code being needed to prove group affiliation?
[generals64] No, it’s that simple
[KCMana] To verify you’re in the group, use your personal link. It is at the bottom of your group e-mails or on your welcome e-mail that says “keep this link.”  Most of our base group has been with us for 2 years. You’re fine, no worries. You can always check your info using your personal link.  PLEASE remember…. your personal link is YOUR information. When you forward our e-mails to your friends and they click your link… YOU’RE GONE, removed, goodbye

[interesting] Joined 2 years ago. Used my computer for setting up mine and a family member using different e-mail addresses, will that be a problem considering all that has gone on? THANKS for all you do!
[generals64] KCmana needs to answer (she did)…I was the person that had them shut it down…. So, blame me…. but she and Andie have it under complete control

[BWM] burchds: Did the rules change? If so, by whom and how were they changed for general’s members?
[generals64] No rules on the site were changed….we had some problems with bad e-mails
[KCMana] The rules change all the time. At this time, we believe it is good for everyone to be signed up individually. Now if you’re married, one is fine (unless you haven’t told him how much you have)

[HappyJan] When I first joined list I was in NJ and used my NJ zipcode. I am now a Florida resident. Do I have to change my zip?
[KCMana] You do not need to change your zip at this time. Tell them when you call the 800 #

[CAfaceman] Is there any truth to the rumor that if we exchange even one dinar note prior to our Studley/Generals64 bank appointment that we will be excluded from participating in the group rate package your team has negotiated?
[KCMana] No one knows the answer to that one…. for me, personally, I would not risk it.

[Wellness] Can we cash out a little VND to payoff our reserves before making our appointment with WF and not have our rate default to street rate.

[generals64] It is basically a rumor…. Please note rumor…. We have that with the bank right now…But, it is a RUMOR created from another site
[KCMana] Also, remember “they” have eyes & ears on the chat rooms… they know all the games people are trying to come up with
[BWM] the safe answer is you will exchange what you have “IN HAND”… what the banks will do with reserves is still unconfirmed

[BD] If our IP address has changed since we signed up originally last year, do we have to re-register?
[KCMana] NO – We don’t hit your IP, we send e-mail

[txgirl] If you have children that you have bought dinar for and they do not have a clue, what is your best advice for them to cash in?
[KCMana] Tell them – I gifted everyone at one time. With a letter explaining what I thought it was… Whatever is best for your family relationship. DO NOT SIGN THEM UP if they don’t know about it.
[wileymorgan] Any gift of dinar will be a blessing, it is more money that they had the day before. Street rate is better than no rate

[kman48] I signed up tonight after you came back on line, how long is it typically before I receive the e-mail?
[KCMana] It depends on the traffic. We have had a ton of people on tonight. Check your spam folder. Do you have an e-mail account that requires a form to be filled out (ain’t gonna happen). Make sure we are on your safe sender list. It all helps you receive “your welcome”

[caramina] Does a married couple need to register separately and if you have a trust, does that need to be registered separately also? Thanks!
[KCMana] Caramina – Married… that depends. Did you tell him how much you have? Are you exchanging separately? Your Trust is you, right? …. I think one is enough

[interesting] I have a family member who no longer has their previous KCMana update e-mail with their link so they can not update their information.  What do they do?

[KCMana] Go to www.Generals64.info.  Click “subscribe,” enter the e-mail address you registered with… you’ll pop up. Change anything you need to. Switch e-mail address, it’s all good. Click “unsubscribe” by mistake… OOPS, you’re off the list.

[KCMana] Generals is reminding me… POST RV we will have an address for everyone to send him toasters
[generals64] You know I’m kidding….
[4th-time] Just picturing the generals with 10, 20, 30,000 toasters and the guy delivering them
[KCMana] 4th-time he’ll be like a kid in a candy store

[tweedledee] A friend is giving dinar to 350 employees. They do not know they are getting it and may or may not have e-mails. How does this boss handle signing them up for the group?
[KCMana] tweedledee: Please do NOT sign up anyone that is unaware. I think WileyMorgan said it best, street rate is better than no rate if it comes to that

[oucrazy] Will the rate be exposed to us prior to the exchange appointment?
[KCMana] We will know that when we get the instructions

[Capt Crunch] Can we take an attorney to the cash out?
[KCMana] Capt Crunch – I really wish I could answer that, I don’t know.  Ask them when you call in.
[generals64] KCmana – Let me have this one… Capt Crunch, this has been discussed with the bank…No lawyer needs to be there at that time… It is simply a deposited cash transaction. However, they will want to have a chance at you with a wealth management person and I would have one there then for safety’s sake. There is about a 20 minute appt. time…. Sorry but too many people to handle

[generals64] By the way…we are only quoting what the banks have told us and the truth. If you are looking for rumors, then adios

[23skido] What if there is a family of 4 and they have only one e-mail addy? How would they register for the group?
[KCMana] One person is listed and uses the one e-mail. Each e-mail can only be used ONCE (1x) period. So when you type in multiple names with the same e-mail you just replace the person you entered before.

[KCMana] FYI….. G-MAIL works best with our system

[cib] If someone has one or two 25k dinars must they still register if they have no computer or e-mail?
[KCMana] We started this group for those with very small amounts. G-mail has free e-mail

[Gnarz] I spoke to KCMANA a while back and she said there would be a deal through HSBC for international members. We/he would like confirmation this is still the case and ask: Do international members need to individually register the same as the WF customers/group members do?
[KCMana] For our international friends… Make sure you have checked the box that lets us know you’re outside of the USA. We will send any and all information we receive to help the best way we can

[doghouse] 1. Will people in Hawaii (Oahu) have a place to exchange? 2. Will all get same rate and % and perks?
[KCMana] Yes / Yes …

[KCMana] I should mention we are ONLY attempting to have the best rate out there… NO PERKS

[KCMana] I believe Alaska is the area that 800#’s don’t work… We have informed the bank of that issue
[wileymorgan] You are correct, KC.  It was Alaska and we have not been provided and answers yet

[Fishin47] Any idea of Canadian Banks that will be participating in the CE?
[KCMana] Fishin47 – We will post all information for those outside of the USA that we can. Please make sure you have checked that box.

[RPharmer] Do we know of a group rate for the VND yet? Not the rate but will there be a group rate?

[interesting] I won’t feel comfortable doing the CE without a delarue machine to authenticate my currency.  It would take too long any other way. How can we be SURE we will be sent to a CE location that DEFINITELY has a delarue machine to verify my currency?
[KCMana] I won’t answer this. When we get the instructions, we will tell you what we know.

[BWM] I can give a “best” guess on the process… this is an OPINION… you will call the number, they will ask for a zip code and you will be given a location unless you have another option to discuss (you want to exchange in another location).  They will be using locations that allow for optimum timing (remember that 20 minutes Generals referred to) and security

[Vivi] Thank you! Could you address concerns about the security of the information we are providing?
[KCMana] Vivi – I am the only one with access to it. If you only knew how much I don’t care to look at anyone’s info.

[Fishin47] If you live in Mexico and travel to the U.S. for CE, will they be allowed to cash in at the group rate if registered with G64?
[KCMana] Fishin47 – I can’t imagine why not

[randee1] I am going to capitalize all my dinar into a “blind” trust of which I am the trustee. In registering for the group can I register with my own name as the trustee or do I have to register for the group using the name of the trust itself?
[KCMana] randee1 – You’re really over thinking this. It’s you

[BWM] Let me address something that was brought up by Generals and KCmana… the idea that the RATE was negotiated but not PERKS… Why? Think about it… someone with a single 25k note would not qualify for private banking unless the rate was stupid… there are still qualifications that have to be met by the bank.  Most banks require a minimum deposit of 250k to 1M to qualify for private banking… it depends on the bank and whether or not they have options for wealth management locally or have to have them “shipped” in

[coorslite21] So is the delarue machine really necessary with all of the other identifiable features incorporated into the IQD?
[KCMana] coorslite21 – I trust we will all be fine. Let’s wait to see what our instructions say before we start being concerned about the delarue

[BD] For those who may have to fly to their appointment, has there been any confirmation to a limit of dinar they are allowed to travel with?
[KCMana] BD – check with the TSA
[wileymorgan] Per the TSA website, there are no restrictions on transporting currency, foreign or domestic, within the U.S.

[KCMana] Guys we are here to help get the best rate for the group. We can not fix the world problems.

[calgon] Any truth to the 30 day time limit to CE?
[KCMana] calgon – If there is a limit to the group rate we will know when the instructions come out.

[Asells] Someone e-mailed me … What can we expect out of the NDA?
[KCMana] I have not seen an NDA, so I can’t answer that

[BWM] OK guys.. the only questions that I currently have.. have either been answered earlier, don’t pertain to group info, or are specific enough that I can answer… I will stay until room closes to answer other questions as needed also…

[greatseedsower] My 15 year old purchased his own dinar and VND. Can he join group?
[KCMana] greatseedsower – Yes.  Guys, our group is open to everyone.
[4th-time] greatseedsower – My kids have their own and I will exchange theirs they are minors
[BWM] You can always pursue a power of attorney for kids, elderly or others as needed

[rcgervais] Will there be a 11% tax that the bank will take out at exchange?
[wileymorgan] rcgervais – No one knows at this time

[yellow2] Will the 800 # be posted on Dinar Recaps or can only get it thru your site?
[KCMana] yellow2 – NO you have to be on the e-mail list

[BWM] Thanks to our mods and admin tonight for making this happen