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Monday, July 29, 2013

EXOGEN UPDATE, 30 JULY

DIRECT INTEL 10:45 PM EST

Posted by EXOGEN on July 29, 2013 at 10:49pm

1. EVERYTHING IS COMPLETED
2. PARIS CLUB ISSUES HAVE BEEN RESOLVED & NEGOTIATED
3. THERE ARE ZERO GLITCHES
4. ALL SYSTEMS ARE NOW 100% INTEGRATED GLOBALLY
5. THE BASKET IS SET FOR RELEASE
6. BANK OF INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS ROLE COMPLETED
7. THE UNSC IRAQ COMPENSATION STAFF HAS STARTED GLOBAL PAYOUTS TO COUNTRIES FROM THE FUNDS
8. GLOBAL RESET IS IN MOTION
9. TIMELINE HAS NOT CHANGED FROM THIS MORNING (ANY MINUTE-AUGUST 1)
10. UN OPERATIONAL RATES OF EXCHANGE WILL BE UPDATING
11. IMF ROLE IS COMPLETED
12. IRAQ HAS MET ALL REQUIREMENTS TO REVALUE CURRENCY & BECOME INTERNATIONALLY TRADEABLE
13. THE 48 HOUR DEADLINE GOALS WERE MET WITH PARIS CLUB
14. THE TARIFFS ARE LIVE
15. UST ROLE IS COMPLETED
16. WE NOW ONLY WAIT FOR THE RELEASE OF THE RATES
17. ALL PARTICIPATING BANKS & INSTITUTIONS ARE ON HIGHEST ALERT EVER
18. INTRA BANK MEMOS WENT OUT TO BANKS AGAIN TODAY
19. THERE WILL BE MANY SMALLER BANKS INVOLVED IN THE EXCHANGE UNDER THE UMBRELLA
20. THE RATES HAVE BEEN SET & ARE TRANSITIONING FROM PLACEHOLDER RATES TO LIVE RATES NOW
21. FOREX & NASDAQ IS NOW FULLY INTEGRATED (100%)
22. BLOOMBERG DATA FEEDS ARE NOW INTEGRATED (100%)
23. THE SMART CARDS ARE READY FOR GLOBAL RELEASE

FRANK26 UPDATE:" THE TIME FRAME IS 3 DAYS OR LESS", 30 JULY

07/29/13 Frank just said on his CC .. speaking with (I TEAM) contact that was in Saudi spoke to the owner of the largest bank in Saudi Arabia that was in charge of distributing the Iraqi lower denoms in the other countries ... said we will see the rv at the end of EID 
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ALAN:   Ok, well first off I had no idea that what I described was refered to as a LOP.. I dont even know what it stands for.. But I guess i gave the definition and didnt realize it... I have been in this for about 2 years but only really in the past few months started educating myself and the LOP hasent been in my vocabulary.. So what you refer to as nonsense on the forums is actually me asking a sincere question that so many before you seemed to gladly answer.

Why dont ya just call me stupid and call it a day.. The team could have went over it 1000000000 trillion times but if I somehow missed the whole LOP conversation then I see no reason why I cant ask..

Would your response to my question been the same had I been a first time poster???? Probably not so just consider me a newbie on the LOP scenario.....

So next time instead of asking a question ill just go through the last 20 CC's, 1000000 of pages on the forums to ensure that the question I ask isnt nonsence.   And no im not mad im irritated....

Frank:  Today a post You made asked the qt ....... Is it me or a coincidence that an argument or disagreement starts when I make a post?
  Frank Continues:  Do not have a comment on that .......... But I do on this:

Communication is worst done via a ............ Posting. That is why I use smilies a lot. May I help You?

Never again consider Your idea as an eventual possibility for the IQD.......... You NOW understand it is defined as a LOP. That will NEVER happen in Iraq!!!

You are innocent ........... But You patience's is not.

If posting does not come across successfully than may I recommend reading the Book of Revelations. IMO.......... It makes it clear to me that Iraq is about to explode financially on the international theater. That Alan .......... Is not a LOP.

Take care of Yourself in Afghanistan ............ To take a break from the IQD........ Try studying the caves of this land !!! They lead to history and THINGS they were looking for.   KTFA,

Frank:  Hmmmm God.Give me Strength or ............. Give me permission.

That my voice can be kinder.  Insensitive is too ugly for me.  KTFA, Frank

  sluggo wrote on July 28th, 2013, 8:33 pm:Hey Frank, How about a preview of the topics for tomorrow's conference call.   Just to spice things up a bit, I for one would sure like to know. :thumbsup: 

Frank:  Monday's are always packed ............. One project is that I will reverse engineer an article from 2012 that said they would lift the 000 in the 7th of 2013......July. Will use it as a template to analyze their progress.

Qi Cards.

"I" Team report from S.A. where leader had dinner with BANK and gave his point of view on a date.

DELTA recording  M's position ......... Fetal.

A baker's dozen. And more........... C U in 22....... :hibye:  KTFA, Frank

Aunderdu:  wrote on July 28th, 2013, 8:44 pm:Hey Frankie how about a small Homework Assignment before the CC??? Wait a minute... Did I just ask for Homework??? :lalalala: :lalalala: :lalalala: :heeheehee:

Frank:    Will Bernake leave ?.......... Abandon O.  KTFA, Frank

Vet__1975:  the quetion remain the same, will they pay there people, will the Q-card be louded?, will the UN Exchange rate be publish on the 30 of July? time will tell August is aroun the coner hope that all will be well this week

Frank:   Star Trek use to call it the "Prime Directive".

We are back in great numbers ......... Only to watch THEM and protect THOSE that actively work on the process.     It is NOT the moment to interfere .......Yet.

KTFA FAMILY:  I promised not to give Time Frames any longer.

But to accomplish Your CC tonight I am asking Your permission to do so just one more time.

Please post Your opinion on this subject for tonight.

I will only do it for this CC .........Then stick our new format if we find ourselves still waiting after this chronological study.

TY Kindly .........Aloha Ohana no ki oi ....A hui ho........ \m/ :hibye:   KTFA, Frank

prosperitynow wrote on July 29th, 2013, 11:35 am::thumbsup: Hi Frank! Thank you for all that you and the Team do for us.  YES YES YES PLEASE - give us a timeframe!

I'm even going to 'burn the midnight oil' here in the UK tonight to listen to your call instead of the recording.  Much blessings!  Prosperitynow

Frank:  Jolly good governor ............ :handshake2:

It is a Time Frame that contains three circles (Wheels) within a circle of time.

IMO........... It is of Strong Sound Logic.  C U on Your CC in 7.  KTFA, Frank

  Frank:  My word of honor to You and all............ Directive will be very Direct tonight.

The frame is 3 days or less.  KTFA, Frank

mcdan wrote on July 29th, 2013, 11:55 am:Frank when a Dove brings you a Branch would You not be prepare to say Land Ho. IMO Yes

Frank:   Unless the branch is of ............ Poison Oak.

In this case it's ahui ho............. :hibye:   Yes ........ Tonight ...... I come in peace.  KTFA, Frank

NESARA UPDATE, 30 JULY

Nesara BlogSpot Dinar Update: John MacHaffie
IT IS DONE!

RV is done, folks ----- Thanks to our LOVING LORD for HIS BLESSINGS!

THE FLOW OF ABUNDANCE IS UPON US: MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY!!

SHATTERSTAR UPDATE:"$3.44 RATE FOR THE QI CARDS", 30 JULY

[shatterstar] berberboy i have some contractors in Basra, and they have seen the lower denoms and the $3.44 picture... they sent me a pic

[dealdoctor] shatterstar you have a pic of the $3.44 signs?

[shatterstar] dealdoctor yeah its in arabic

[dealdoctor] shatterstar Well yeah LOL what about the numbers?

[dealdoctor] shatterstar So the contractors told you the LDs were out and that they saw the $3.44 exchange sign which they sent you in a bank?

[dealdoctor] shatterstar When did you get your information and the picture of the $3.44?

[shatterstar] dealdoctor like 3 weeks ago.. maybe 2 weeks ago. Im looking through my email now to find it

 [shatterstar] dealdoctor the picture was in the window. and article came out like 2 weeks ago saying that they started moving the LD to the local banks.. an article came out over the weekend saying they got them to 80% of the local branches..

[dealdoctor] shatterstar This is real world stuff...we must be close

[rotormech35] dealdoctor VERY

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] shatterstar So if there are signs in the bank saying the rate is $3.44, why is the street rate still sitting at around 1200. One would think the value would starat to dramatically increase if these signs were being placed out in public.

[shatterstar] Austin-Powers-For-PM 3.44 was only for the Qi Cards... Which is why mastercard is exerting pressure to go international. It is literally hundreds of millions of dollars monthiy

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 29 JULY

7-29-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   RAMADON ENDS AUG 9TH BUT FOUND OUT THEIR GIVING PORTION ACTUALLY STARTS ON THE 5TH OF AUGUST...THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ ARE HOPING THEIR LEADERS HAVE NOT LIED TO THEM AGAIN AND THAT THEY DO HAVE THE MOST PROSPEROUS RAMADAN EVER AS THEY HAVE BEEN PROMISED. POPPY3

7-29-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony   I do have a time but won't say it...let's just hope it is today.  Playing devils advocate, what is our worst case scenario?  I got calls from people today that are saying we are not waiting we are there...if not today, then tomorrow.  The cards over there, by trusted agents, the rate is already set at $3.44,  here today it is showing at $3.65.  The rate has been out, RV has taken place & the currency  is already being traded above us, we're the last level to see it.   All banks are in position & being updated on the current situation & in a couple of hours I might be back with something else...just waiting for banks to tell me they have the green lite.    [post 2 of 2]

7-29-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony   Interesting weekend.  You would not have wanted to hear what I heard on the weekend. I did not want to hear it.   Since that time things have changed.  I do like the fact that I have some good up-to-date info.  We're right there at the door step, but 1 group is holding us back.  This a.m. I got more info from iraq, on tv that money was about to come and they will receive their blessing that any day the dinar will rise in value.  People are being called back to the banks ASAP...being told it is done...it's different than yesterday...we're not saying we're getting ready, we're saying it's done.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

7-29-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   IT IS A GREAT DAY...AND WE ARE ALL ONE DAY CLOSER TO PAY DAY.  I AM HEARING ALL GOOD THINGS ON A CALL TO KUWAIT LAST NIGHT I LEARNED A COUPLE THINGS ABOUT RAMADAN I DIDNT KNOW AND IT IS GOOD.  I WAS ASK NOT TO SHARE ALL OF IT BECAUSE THE CONTACT IS VERY AFRAID FOR HIS FAMILY RIGHT NOW HE HAS FLED TO KUWAIT BECAUSE OF THE UNREST IN BAGDAD AND OTHER MAJOR CITIES IN IRAQ. I ASSURE YOU THE CALL WAS VERY GOOD AND HIS OUTLOOK FOR THE RV WAS VERY POSITIVE.  POPPY3

7-29-2013  Newshound Guru Millionday    cbi is saying yes it is time.  we are watching the transition that is going to make iraq money and the whole globe as well. we are in waiting mode and they say we are watching it happen...supposed to have those cards in days, i hope so.   [what is next step in your opinion? the next step is the rate being put out in my opinion...smile.

7-29-2013  Newshound Guru Med   IF THEY DO REMOVE THE ZERO'S THIS YEAR AS STATED THEN IT WILL NEED TO BE DONE SOMETIME DURING THE NEW BUDGET IS PASSED OR WHEN REALLY DOWN TO EARTH DISCUSSIONS ARE GOING ON.  I PERSONALLY THINK THE LAST QUARTER OF THIS FISCAL YEAR IS THE TIME WE ARE WAITING FOR.  [post 4 of 4]

7-29-2013  Newshound Guru Med   REMOVING THE ZERO'S IS ONLY SAYING IT WILL BE ONE PENNY AT WORST WHICH IS STILL A PROFIT OF 9K PER MILLION YOU BOUGHT - IS IT WHAT WE WANT NO – BUT ONCE IT STARTS HOPEFULLY OIL PRODUCTION WILL REACH THE AMOUNTS PROJECTED.  THE 3 MAJOR BANKS WHO MOVED BACK INTO IRAQ AND WHEN THEY MOVE TO ACCEPT THE IQD AGAIN FOR EXCHANGE - THEN WE ARE ON OUR WAY.  [post 3 of 4....stay tuned]

7-29-2013  Newshound Guru Med   THE REVALUE OR THE DELETION OF ZERO'S FROM A CURRENCY IS NOT JUST SAYING TODAY IS THE DAY IT IS A PROCESS.  EVERY COUNTRY THAT GOES THROUGH THE IMF HAS THE SAME PROCESS AND PROCEDURES WE HAVE.  YES - NEWS THAT THE DINAR WILL CHANGE THE NOMINAL VALUE BY DELETING THE 3 ZERO'S - BUT TO THE ACTUAL COME OUT VALUE - THAT IS STILL ANYONES GUESS.   [post 2 of 4....stay tuned]

7-29-2013  Newshound Guru Med   RAMADAN IS A RELIGIOUS CELEBRATION AND IT BEING SO NOTHING IS ALLOWED TO DETRACT FROM THAT - AND IT WAS EXPLAINED THAT A REVALUE DURING RAMADAN OR A GIFT OF MONEY TO THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ WOULD CHANGE THE ACTUAL REASONS FOR RAMADAN - AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHY YOU WILL NEVER SEE AN RV DURING RAMADAN - OR IT AS A GIFT TO THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ.  [post 1 of 4....stay tuned]

7-29-2013  Newshound Guru Shredd   Article:  "Iraq: Start delete actions 3 zeros from alamlha"  when this three zeros project starts, we are golden.  [did they say August for that?]  they, meaning Finance Committee, referring to the CBI plan, yes, but last we had heard from the CBI, they wanted to delay which was met by a lot of resistance...  The three zeros project requires a 1-1 rate for the beginning of the removal...the removal of the zeros project is real and it will not be successful without a dinar at or better than the dollar...this all was the plan, but we just need to hear from Turki....what is his response to the push back on timing.

OFFICIAL TONY'S NOTES ; Q & A, 29 JULY

LETS GO TO Q & A
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GOOD MORNING
c- I'm frustrated
t- no one is more frustrated than i am,  while I bring you the info, i go through this all day,  w/ info, and w/ mis info, which i have to correct...right now, and because of that,  i got calls today from ppl that said 'WE ARE NOT WAITING FOR IT, ITS HERE, ITS DONE, GET TO THE OFFICE'
c- i want this to be so true so bad, what if it doesn't happen today, worse case scenario
t- is that it happens tomorrow , and its just that we are  not the ones that do it
c- i believe in you
t- try to give you a little more here, its not about me, its about whats happening in the world and how it affects others and not just us, and can it continue and whats going on in Iraq today, that you don't know about, and that's more important than what you do know about, about meetings that took place there on Sat. and Sun.  its about meetings at the UN on Sat.  Its about WHAT IS NOT SHOWN on the media... its about all those things, to make this a critical time for this to happen,  those are the things I can't tell you, and blatantly say it, I can't add fuel to the fire.
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c- need to be encouraged, we don't believe in Tony but we believe in God, and pray for Tony
c- end of Ramadan, and the EID 8th, 9th, holidays,  is it M. again ?
c- IMF thing?
t- I can say that its not in their control, and they want it as bad as we do, especially since what happened over the weekend,  when I did real estate,  Robert Kiosaki, one thing he used to say, is there are lots of ppl that aim aim aim, to take the shot and be successful,  they are aiming forever, and another guy walks over with a shot gun and just does it... there is someone that wants this to be just perfect, and everyone else is saying lets go... you had time to take the shot, but lets go and we'll fix it after
c- after its done, you'll tell us, the banks, the tiers.... will i tell the call person, I want to be in a WF w/ a De La Rue machine, can I do that?  Certify the bills, versus take the dinar, we had to confiscate them....
t- tried to tell you, the procedure for the group # is they will assign you to a bank and a appt.
t- the other one, is you go to the bank yourself, and give you a 888 #
t- as of this morning, the info so far, 
t- they completely leveled the planning field - shortened the time frame
t- they think its going to create a bottle neck - leveled it to shorten the time
t- not 100% sure, it makes sense, but this late in the game, not sure they can and if it will work
t- one thing you may not have to go from one to another
t- so maybe we can tell you the rate is from here to here to here
t- versus 4 million of you calling them to find out
c- can I make an appt. w/ a bank w/ a De La Rue
t- don't know
t- when you call the 888 #,  they give them 2 min. per call,  schedule you and onto the next call
t- that's the guideline
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c- devils advocate, play sports, is the info, you say its here, but we haven't got it yet, is there anything we can do to push it along
t- nothing you can do, just trying to level the playing field so when it does, everyone has a fair chance
c- level it - if you could give me an example
t- trying not to 
t- trying not to say too much, but when it does, I'll be able to tell you, but i want to wait until that happens
t- i told you how my day started, didn't know what to say, but....
c- but you might be doing a call this afternoon
t- yeah, I'm thinking i will, and at that point, they'll want me to tell you everything
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c- hi
c- me and little Sacha we gonna take our time
c- could you please consider stop answering so many questions, i'm crawling in my skin, stop being so fearful, we don't need the info,  i don't want to know what they don't want to know
t- you are one of a few, everyone wants to know everything
c- no, on open mic, we trust you and when it happens you'll tell us
c- it would make this much more enjoyable and take the anxiety level down a whole lot
t- i got back and forth, alot of ppl that say i give way to much info, and they get mad because i'm giving it to you, but i give it to you, so you don't go in blind, and make a plan
t- i saw it on the board, re: WF,  but guys its not WF its the banking system - period - we're giving you the info from one, but its because they have the big group deal, but every other bank, that guy works for the bank too.... he's smiling at you... doing you the world greatest favor, ALL THAT GLITTERS IS NOT GOLD,  just understand that
t- rather you be well armed than disappointed
c- you still give the info and they still don't understand
c- when you give me the info, i'll be on it
c- until you give me everything that you can tell us,  its like you are worrying about a bunch of stuff that you don't have control over, so why create that for yourself
t- and another way to look at it, is when it does come time, you have the resources and knowledge to deal with it
c- i know you are looking out for us,  but less is more
t- lol
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c- the lady that just spoke, what she is missing is that, ppl are curious and want to know whats going on, no one cares about the rhetoric, everyone flocks to the call to hear, boom - its happening - ppl locked into these calls for years,  when they are led to think this is happening, day after day, and no disrespect to the last caller, she might be in this 6 mos. or year,  but I've been holding this dinar for 7 years now, she needs to re think her approach, just like the first caller, he questioned in a respectful way, and wants Tony to be right, but I find myself in his position,  been listening for years, and this roller coaster is killing me, and I take responsibility, patient man, and I come to this call,  M, W, F.  and continually missing this gold that we are trying to reach,  who are your sources,  do you get to a point of "I don't want to talk to this source anymore"  and they keep taking the carrot, and nothing comes to fruition.
t- we are talking to ppl that you feel and I feel, and I mean banking ppl,  gov. ppl,  ppl over there, who are just as frustrated, inner agency blaming each other, they're going thru the same thing you hear, and what I'm not telling you, is that its putting pressure on you that you don't want to see, the situation changes day to day, hour to hour, as of Fri. night, Sat. morn. it could have went over the weekend, if they wanted it to go, but somebody didn't.
Whatever the agenda is.
They negotiate on this scale.  They do biz. on this scale.
Do I get info, and I give you what I can, w/ out crossing the line, or the effects won't be worth it if I cross the line,  and I get the info, without stepping on toes, or without getting everyone in an uproar,  do they look for it, yes,  they're just as frustrated,  several banks, call center eating in the break room, phones confiscated and they are upset about it, especially when they find out its for nothing,  if we truly look at Iraq and how many times they put it out, for their own ppl to say WE DON'T TRUST YOU, CAUSE YOU LIE, do you think any Gov. wants their ppl to look at them like that?  Its beyond their control.
c- i think you speak the truth Tony, but like the guy said earlier,  look at common sense, it would be amazing, to go in and buy $1K of Dinar, cost you $1K and turn into $5M overnight, it doesn't seem logical to a common sense biz. man like myself, unless they dry the sale of them up cheaply
t-good question, especially the new ppl,  it only makes sense to those who have studied history and the situation, this is not changing on a moments notice, but in 10 years preparation,  I look at luck,  lucky to do things, when the abnormal happen, ppl say 'wow they're lucky"  but what we are going through is where hard work and prep. meet.   So when it happens, they'll say 'man you are lucky'  but luck has nothing to do with it.   Not to get on a call and say , here is the date and rate.... but this gives you an education on a world wide level,  then you know it makes sense,  ie. Kuwait, they'll be the richest country in the world, if you know the global reset is based on this, how would the rest of the world do this if its worthless currency, so don't understand where the confusion is at - it all makes sense
c- one other area, contrary and contradicts to what you are saying, saying its a bunch of BS, not going to happen any time soon, the type of position it puts you in as a leader,  several parts of the statement, 
t- love the question
t- i don't really talk about other sites and there info, or say this guy is stupid, that's not my place
t- my place is to give you the info that i have, and your job is to listen to all the sites and form an opinion on what is right or wrong,  i don't care what they say
t- no one is paying me to do this
t- i don't sell dinar
t- there is not a bank paying me to direct you there
t- not a gov. agency
t- i have no reason to lie to you
t- if you do your history lesson, and the budget and what the world is trying to do, then how can we do this with a worthless currency or $1, or .98centds
t- if you look at what they put out on Thurs.Friday, they're going to  pay back at .98c and the rate it  .10- how does that work ????
t- then something doesn't make sense,   I talk to bank managers, and how the training went, and what to say and do, and the rates they are giving and our gov. and over there, ppl at diff. levels....and on their cards - whether you believe it or not, the rate is 3.44
and today it shows at 3.65 just so you know
and so I look at all of that and bring you my information and rely on my resources and where they fit into the whole scheme and what they're doing, that's what I have to worry about - see when it happens, who gave you the info, and whats going on, and who not to follow and history will tell you
c- you make alot of sense, your words are words of encouragement, we want to party with you, and cheer you on, and appreciate you, ...
t- I do, its not just me, there are a whole lot of ppl ,  doing this, re verification, check w/ your guy here and there,  this is every day, all day... everyone bringing info to the table
c- real quick - ppl say the Dong is worthless?
t-I'd tell him, don't buy any,  let everyone else buy some, you don't believe it
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c- gm
c- info like this before, different or the same
t- getting it out of me, slowly and surely, normally they say 'WE THINK'... now they are being told 'GET HERE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE, ITS DONE'
t- a whole different word game
c- min. to min. basis
t- I have a time, but not saying it,  they want to make sure its a level playing field before it happens, for everyone, and looking for it to happen quick fast and in a hurry, ready to go.
c- in line w/ what I've been hearing
t- don't think we can mess things up at this time, but want to keep it smooth as possible
c- look forward to a call tonight, or TBA
t- TBA, but thinking we'll have a call

I STILL DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO DO FOR CANADIANS
THINK CANADIANS MIGHT HAVE TO WORK W/ AN EXCHANGER
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c- are we at the point now, that someone can stop it, or once the playing field is leveled we're good to go
t- that's what I"m being told
c- if it gets to be 10 EST, will you give us a blast or update call 
t- I absolutely will do that, if I get a call that says.... I will do it today
c- are we looking for Tony's having a call or a Deb Tar Heel email first
t- think she'll do a blast, and Okie will do his call, and then I'll send a text
t- I believe Okie worked so hard and he should do this, so many years, he passed along a message to a Senator to me,  I think he deserves to do it, they set it up that way, and let everyone get excited,  some other boards might blast it out, but I'd let him do it myself.
c- you said the Iraqi's were told in 10 days, but Wed. the 31st
t- they were told in the next 10 days, and cards would be active July 31 and now on TV again, the Finance Min. is explaining procedures again, they're getting ready
t- again, my point, tempers are flaring over there, they don't want to look like fools, and any day any moment something can happen we don't want to see
c- they've got to know that, its devastating to the world if they let it go to the point, and Wed. is the boiling point
t- absolutely and a lot of ppl feel that way
c- Tony Blast or call this evening
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c- get ready to be blessed
c-heard that - understand if you can't make comments - 6 countries kicked out of the basket - any comment?
t- not true from the ppl that i talk to 
c- what is the truth
t- problem w/ the system and fixed late night, and something else was going on at the same time
c- 2nd ? along the lines of a time frame?
t- nope
t- if I did, then I'd have to give you what I know and I'm not doing that
t- no, don't want to put that out there, I just don't, if we get blessed today... 
t- they don't want, I'll give you more info,  they don't want politicians to be the 1st in line, they don't want that, or authority first in line, they feel that's not fair, and don't want pplsitting in parking lots waiting for a phone call and running in the door, they dont' want mass hysteria,  a level playing field,  orderly and quick,  you're first call is to be 2 min.  the meeting is to be 20 minutes,  in and out, you're wealth manager and private banker is a week away
and they want everyone to follow the system
c- ty
c- you mentioned others had a call, that put info out there... 
t- more detail, and I like that
c- could you tell us which call 
t- not a call,  Mtn Goat, more detail,  didn't check Steve O,  and one other person, same info, but more detail
c- wasn't a call, just someone intel
t- yeah, the same but more details
c- do you know how long we can hold it after the RV
t- was supposed to be a 2 year process, have to find out if this last year counts as one year, maybe 6 mos. - don't know,  don't want you to be scared,  its still in a region that overflow etc.. can change things, but they want to speed up the process, and get it over with as quick as possible,    
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c- who moved my cheese
c- is it still in play
t- won't know till this afternoon, but everyday situation will change, have to wait till this afternoon, to see what the complete leveling is
t- regardless, you have to be aware of who moved my cheese, its a life time deal,  regardless what he says to you and you sign, it will change tomorrow,  not saying its a bad thing, but today when you do things, economy tomorrow will change, make purchases, etc.. we'll about to upset the market, cause stocks to rise, and others won't know why.... we'll get involved that they never expected stock to go up and just by what I purchase.....don't know what currency's do, but now we'll buy the next group of currency,  so many novices in their industries will have an effect
c- when it pertains to the entity that stalled it, positive or negative, if we knew - ramifications
t- don't think its us knowing, as in us, its as in other ppl knowing,  
c- outside of our country
t- yes, and other things
c- oh
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c- super fantastic if what you say is true
c- have a bunch of reserves and don't have the where-with-all to make the changes to keep them going
c- hard to read what you are saying
t- ppl got called in, worked extra hours, couldn't go to lunch,  frustration like we are ,  does it make sense, are they trying to do it, at certain points and things came up, then there is a window that they have to wait for and do it again
t- what they told me - what difference is today than yesterday,  because we're not telling you we are getting ready to do it, its done and we need you to be here
c-do you think it will be done by the end of the month
t- yeah , I think it is
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c- how much latitude to negotiate during the 20 min. session or the wealth management session, and how long it will be left in the acct.
t- some documents in the 20 min. meeting, so read and understand what you are doing
c- will we have any latitude 
t- yes in the 20 min. session
c- how long 
t- when you go to the 888#  take it or leave it,  or the other 888 # negotiate,  or off the street you'll get more than 20 min.
t- these are the things they don't want me to tell you
t- beware that you have options
c- last ? ,  after the live rate goes, and announcement takes place, before we call
t- will try to do that, that's my goal, it might be while I'm at the bank, or when I come back from the bank
c- would think that ppl would go to other calls and come here, be sensitive, we should be here because we want to be....
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c- trying to protect us - every which way, just ready for this to be over, just have to wait, this is the hardest thing to do,  you kept me going, 
t- thank you
t- want to say what she said,  hope you realize by now, that i've been truly blessed, w/ the ppl that I've come in connection with, and the info, and I've gotten a lot and from those that listen to the calls and the way its delivered and whats not told, where to draw the line
t- there are lot more ppl out there, that are fighting for you, not just the rich ppl and they want you to know
t-might get me in trouble,  when I worked for the tax board, and did audits,  don't go after, not giving a dollar amount, but dont' go after the rich ppl, because they can hire attorneys and fight us,  go after these guys and they will pay,  that would upset me every day,  they'd go after ppl for $25 and not $100K,   there are ppl in the gov. that are in a position like I was in, and they can see whats not right and they are trying to help you and we owe them a gratitude of thanks - that's made the site what it is today
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c- appreciate it, look at the big pic, and ppl that I know in DC, and you're on it,  and you speak from the heart, and things we are not aware of, cause we're not supposed to know,  China, Russia & Amer. are all in the same position, and the things said, are to keep us afloat, and its in a positive way, that you share the info, to the overall group,  is there a start to it going to happen, and start at a level to have time to.. instead of Russia or China push it for them, or a scenario where they don't allow this rate, and then a week, we'll see the RV rate
t- the cards over there, by trusted agents, the rate is set at 3.44, this is ppl that have access to it and authorized to use it,  don't care about the one guy that went downtown and can't use the card, he's right, but that doesn't account for every other card.....I know ppl cards are loaded and used it,  had to be done, its part of the process,  here in our system and sent it over there and the #s come out right
c- what about FOREX , yet there is China, Russia and the US pushing it, and we know about the economy, so why isn't it an issue, before we see an RV
t- to be on 4X before the RV
c- yeah
t- it wouldn't be on 4X before we see the RV, CBI releases it to the bank before it can go to Forex
c- legal tender
t- and Int'l traded
c- ....
t- not saying there wasn't a date, just that its adjusted
c- so the PTB stopping it or controlling it
c- to show their ppl and doing their part
c- 4,5 days and then we'll see an RV
t- the rate is out, and the currency is being traded, we are the last to see it, and we will be the last, and everyone will know
t- that's why the public session at the UN
t- something was scheduled for today
c- heard that last night, not to go past today
c- but at .92,  then 1.17 not 3.... but not to rush, bank rushes, until it actually comes up
t- some of the info you got is correct, when it got to the right # and then it goes live
t- we won't see the # and then.
c- to not allow it to... 1, 2, 3, to flow through...whats being done, to be live
t- you've confused 99% of the ppl
t- when it comes out and Okie does his post, it will be at the rate they want you to go to the bank
(LISTEN TO THIS PERSON, AND TONY - LOTS OF BACK AND FORTH AND DETAILS )

TONY:   THE INFORMATION AND THE DIFFERENCE,  I GIVE YOU 90 IF NOT MORE % OF THE INFO, EVEN IF ITS NOT FINALIZED, IN EACH DIVISION, EACH SECTION, MEETINGS, SO YOU ARE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, SO YOU ARE AT EACH LEVEL
I DON'T MAKE A DECISION OF SHOULD I TELL YOU THE GOOD STUFF
AND NOT THE BAD STUFF….BUT GIVING IT TO YOU AS I GET IT
AND EDUCATION ALONG THE WAY AND SOME COULD CONSTRUE AT TOO MUCH INFO
AND LOOK FOR IT EVERYDAY WE'RE NOT CALLING THE RV EVERY DAY
BECAUSE THAT'S LIVE, THE STEPS AND THE TIME..
BUT MAYBE MORE INFO….MORE IN DETAIL
AND OTHER TIMES I DON'T GIVE IT IN DETAIL BECAUSE OF THE PERSON THAT'S GIVING IT TO ME
OR THE SENSITIVITY LIKE TODAY
AND THE EFFECT THAT IT CAN HAVE EITHER WAY
AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW SENSITIVE THINGS ARE NOW
HONEST WITH YOU….I DON'T HAVE AN AGENDA
AS MY WIFE TELLS ME….YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY
AND YOU SHOULD DO THIS….AND THAT'S WHY YOU GOT THE POST
AND SHE WENT THROUGH THE FORUM…..YOU SHOULD SAY SOMETHING
JUST THE POSITION WE ARE IN

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c-told God if its form me to respond.... to the gentleman that came in after me,  I have been in this for more than 6 months,  ( the woman from earlier today ) I have a diff. point of view and told you and Ray how I truly feel about the 2 of you, and I choose to believe its all done, and I put my faith in God, and whenever Ray tells us we can go to the bank, we're there.
t- ok
c- everyone needs to relax - its coming
t- ttyl
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c- no ?s,  express some things, been in for 4 years,  lost him, Marine, you talk about life lessons, and my dad ( breaking up )  how grateful I am, I love the way you think and I know that you are a gift to us,  and when ppl abuse a gift, you don't have to do any of this,  and that you found sources and freely share, and your beautiful wife gives up her time,  I'm so grateful, in Mississippi, I'm so grateful Tony,  and listen to you, and it makes my day,  a giver, that gives of his time and himself,  thank you for all the ppl that give you info, and the moderators, and I lost my grandson, and lost him to cancer and want to do for him and one other grandson, he's so smart, and a large family and they want to come home and because of this blessing they'll be able to , I had to buy it for him, and you are part of my family, growing up in Miss. I grew up w/ so racism,  but dont' see this on the board,  in God's time,  he said dont' be anxious for anything,  but thank you Tony for being the man of God
t- ty, don't know what to say
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c- met some friends of yours, whats the bank reconciliation on this weekend, could it hold it up, till tomorrow
t-good question,  yeah,  good question
t- yeah it could
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c- superfantastic#2
c- went to 5/3 to get Dong, and they told her, not selling Dong to her, because she's not traveling abroad, or show proof, a plane ticket or something
c- so after ward we told them we're going there, to sell the dong
t- lol
t- last Mar. or April - banking laws changed, and you have to show proof, so that you are not investing, the reason for that is those that invested in the dinar,  and some other countries or currencies will be the same way
t- while 5/3rd follows that, other banks are still selling,  but 5/3 immediately changed
c- we had to sign a paper, saying we were traveling to Viet Nam to get the dong
c- so we are the last to hear, about the RV, is it in our favor about the rate
t- it will be on every board w/ in 10 min. of it happening and have a call, to instruct their ppl what to do, plenty of info, and pick who you are going to listen to and follow and go to the bank 
c- are we waiting, on FORTREX OR AMX  ????
t- no
c -dealers, we don't trust, to get our layaways
t- some dealers you shouldn't and others you should
t- one guy said you can't pick up the dinar, and FEDEX said you can't mail anything over $50K
and can't put currency in the us mail.. we have a problem
c- so we don't know if we can get that money or not
c- can't pay for it till the RV
t- once it RV's you can put in a sale order to pay for the rest....
t- Sterling will come to you, w/ $5M or more, just have to worry how long till they can get to you, but don't know anyone else is going to come to you, how long you'll be in line, and then they say they'll send it to you, but you have to make decisions
c- dealers at street rate
t- heard they'd be competitive
c- hat off to you and your team,  have a blessed day, and know we'll have the call today
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c- you got the patience of job,  everyone talking, the woman from Mississippi, touching, these ppl want to talk to you like they want to marry you, give them 2 min. and get them off, they not paying you a dime, not in your pocket, one guy talked right over you, be courteous,  the Black Card, you get it the same day
t- may not give it to you in the 20 min. session,  but when you see the wealth manager,  they may do it,  but... depends on your amt.  some are printing them right now
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c- specific piece of info, would like you to tell me, if you have it and if its true or not, been told around the community that the master card, put info out themselves, that they will go international status at the end of this month, in order to be done, they have to have an international tradeable currency and if that's true, is it true, that they have to have a INT'Ltradeable currency
t- did I look up the law, but I did see the article that said by Aug. 1,  common sense says, it has to be international
c- if the rate hasn't changed, they can't use it under the current rate, like any other card, whatever the rate is..
t- the rate has nothing to do w/ it, the currency has to be international first
c- so you're saying that has to be a requirement
c- next? is regards to make us feel better, and what Iraq is telling their ppl, does Iraq know when its going off, and so many times they told their ppl in the beginning of June... and none of it came to fruition, are the banks diff. or just speculators, and putting extra security
t- the cards will be Int'l first of Aug.  is that the first time we heard that no,  but someone told them to do that, and give them that info and make plans to make your cards Int'l at that time, do they tell the ppl that, no,  they have meetings and say everything should be done, they look crazier than anyone, and their ppl don't trust their gov. - that's not a choice that a gov. would make, they want their ppl to believe them.... the banking systems hired extra security since the end of Jan,  ... last week they stopped authorizing overtime and now the gov. is paying them again. .. no one goes out by themselves,  there are hundreds of millions of dollars being spent, not one industry or factory has the power to do it.....
t- did that answer you
t- guess he's gone
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c- throughout the years, heard diff. stories to be prepared, call the IRS, have a trust, llc, etc.. and just sat back and didn't do anything
c- here is what I've done,  counted my dinar, and put a million in each envelope
c- we live in a small town
c- prolly can't cash out locally and never understood to have a good relationship w/ a banker, when there is nothing to cash out with and can't call a big city and find a bank, with one that admits to deal with it
c- but we have an llc, even atty statements and 10 diff. answers on putting the dinar into the llc, but?
t- well, as far as the banker, is find one that believes in it himself and willing to talk to you, and they like most ppl, think their supervisors and headquarters and they would know.... and in fact they don't ,  can't get mad,  and others that work w/ the same person you do,  but keeping you clueless,  and in your particular case, they will use Mom and Pop banks, so you won't travel,  to level the playing field, could be whats going on now, but don't know the interface that's going on now, but will find out
t- as far as llc and trusts, couldn't tell you, everyone has to do it on your own, family situation different
c- what about gifting letters, notarized ahead of time
t- better safe and sorry
c- so other than that, get ready, there is nothing else
t- no, trust, llc, gift it ,  divide it up, what you want to do, to make it private - personal banker, wipe out the accounts, tellers, ID info - change your phone and mailbox, that's what you should have ready, 
c- I do, but not prepare ahead of time, i.e.. change your phone number today...
t- yeah you can change your ph. # today it takes 15 min.  PO Box,  stop the paper trail
c- love the comment on leveling the playing field, been suspecting
c- if I went to a banker and he sat there w/ that type of money and gave me 20 min. I'd say he's not the banker for me... don't want to be rushed through
t- will set you up for an appt.
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c- Is Okies group the same as Studly/Gen... whatever he is ?
t- think they are
c- so other than that, there is no other
t- there are a couple diff. ones, some say they're not part of one
t- dial the 888# , don't care which group ,  just that treat you right
t- only one group will have that #
c- if you built a relationship w/ a private banker and they refer you to another private banker
c- you don't have to go w/ that private banker
t- if I had a relationship
c- but how would you know the rate
t- NDA or no NDA, you'll be aware of it
t- you can walk in and ask what are you going to offer me?
t- say - this bank is doing this, and they'll say oh no, I'll match what you are hearing
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c- ? on a tax basis,  do you foresee after the 11.5% or the 1-2 %, are there other taxes we'd be looking at
t- unless you are looking at a state tax, and don't know how that would apply
c- so the 11.5% is group and you don't see another one
t- I don't see it
c- thank you, the Mods, your wife, .....
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c- physical dinar, reserves
t- good question, doesn't make sense w/ the time frame,  can't do that, and ppl get their reserves, ppl go days and weeks before they get the reserves,  the banks will work with the dealers to cash out the reserves,  now I have to give the bank a letter of authorization and do all that for me.... where would I fall in that que, they didn't think it through,  then the dealer has to have POA.... can't see it working,  may be something they're talking about it right now.... have to give ppl time to get their reserves,  
c- right, a pre requisite, so they could see the dinar come back to them
c- the banks might be looking at another 100 mil. dinar come through the bank, at a different time
t- they do allow you to include the reserves in the right rate
c- I'm dancing around the room
c- we love you
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c- concerned w/ the folks in Iraq, hearing that they are started to riot, and the media talking about civil war, is that smoke
t- its not smoke
c- not smoke, then hope its lickety split
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c-you do have the patience of job, if it had been me, OMG, downright...applaud you and thank you so much for what you bring to us, and you don't have to, ty ty and listen to you and can't wait to hear your call, and they don't realize its a far bigger picture, not just get the money get the money  - yes we are hurting and suffering and need it, but be patient and God will bring it in his own timing, God has the last say so,  let it come... not like the ones that wandered in the wilderness.... mumble and grumble, that's why he let them wander for so long,  
t- you start escalating
c- for the dong is concerned, have to make appt. for the dinar - but cash in a few dong, to put our trust in place, we don't have to make an appt. for that
t- correct, its already internationally traded, walk in to a bank, travel place, airport, 

TONY - TIME TO CALL IT FOR THE DAY
SOME PPL COME ON TO ANTAGONISE, WE KNOW THERE VOICE AND ITS OK
THEY WANT TO GET IT OUT AND GET THEIR QUESTIONS ANSWERED
SOME ARE FRUSTRATED AND MAD ….AND I AM TOO
BUT WE GO ON AND ON
ITS PIECES TO THE PUZZLE AND FOR THE FIRST TIME THEY'RE MOVING PIECES
BUT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH
THOSE PPL THAT COME ON, FRUSTRATED AND REALLY WANT TO KNOW
AND WHEN I WAS DOING MULTI LEVEL
AND PPL HAD QUESTION AFTER QUESTION
AND SOME CALLED THEM DISRESPECTFUL
BUT IN THE END THAT WAS THE FIRST GUY TO SIGN UP
I UNDERSTAND
JUST SO YOU GUYS KNOW PAM PUT AN  ACRONYM
PPPAI
PEOPLE PREVIOUSLY PERCEIVED AS INTELLIGENT
DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES WHY THEY BELIEVE IT
THE FACTS DON'T SAY
.10, .90  OR 1.10
THE FOUNDATION DOESN'T SAY IT
THESE PPL ARE SMART PPL, WHY ARE THEY HAVING SUCH A HARD TIME
AND THEY PROCESS THINGS DIFFERENT
THAT'S WHY I ANSWER THE QUESTION 5, 6, 7 TIMES
BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T GET IT THE FIRST TIME I ANSWERED IT
I TRY TO LISTEN TO SEE WHAT IS IT THEY'RE NOT GETTING
AND I KNOW ITS FRUSTRATING FOR SOME OF YOU GUYS AND YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
IF ONE IS CONFUSED, MAYBE I'M HELPING A WHOLE GROUP
AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU THINK I DO GO THROUGH IT
WONDER WHY ID DIDN'T HAPPEN LIKE IT WAS SUPPOSED TO
NOW I HAVE TO CALL ALL THESE PPL BACK AND FIND OUT, WHAT HAPPENED IN THAT DEPT.
STILL TRYING TO GIVE YOU THE BEST INFO I CAN
AND ENOUGH PPL BRINGING THE INFO TO US
AND YOU'LL KNOW 10 MIN. AFTER THE RV, YOU'LL KNOW WHAT
AND THAT IN ITSELF WILL HELP YOU TO KNOW WHAT TO GO FORWARD
AND THEN WE'LL DO A BIG CALL
AND IF I'M WRONG…I'LL TELL YOU SORRY
NOT SURE IF OTHERS WILL, BUT I WILL
IN THE END ITS NOT ABOUT ME….ITS ABOUT US TOGETHER
GETTING THROUGH THIS
AND I KNOW WE ARE THERE
HOLD ON A LITTLE LONGER
I ANTICIPATE US DOING A CALL THIS EVENING
IF NOT TOMORROW
AND I'M GETTING STUFF RIGHT NOW, TO BE QUIET
WITH THAT…ENJOY YOUR DAY…DON'T STOP YOUR DAY
LOOK FOR THE TEXT TO COME OR ANNOUNCEMENTS ON THE BOARD
THE TEXT WILL COME ONLY IF ITS AN RV
WE'LL PUT IN CHAT OR ON THE BOARD, OR RECORD IT
ENJOY YOUR DAY AND I'LL ENJOY MINE