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Monday, July 8, 2013

DISCUSSION OF SHREDD, 9 JULY

[Shredd] with this news over the past few days, I'm very excited  !

 [alreadyblessed] Shredd wonderful

 [marjans] if Shredd is excited...then so am I  

 [Shredd] hard not to be marjans!

 [marjans] Shredd indeed

 [Shredd] the news over the past few days shows us so much of what is to come

 [marjans] and its coming fast too!

 [Shredd] agreed

 [therealbubbie] [Shredd] with this news over the past few days, I'm very excited! *hallelujah*
 [Shredd] the articles are saying there is an expectation to remove the zeros and that project includes a rate of at or near a buck. Remember last spring? The government was the force behind holding up the zeros project now, THEY are saying GIT R DUN,  when you have the Finance Committee saying now is the time saying "force" the project

[therealbubbie] shredd= E.F HUTTON!!!!! WHEN HE SPEAKS EVERYONE LISTEN'S !!!!!      

[Shredd] yes, and what is great is Maliki is publically saying he welcomes investment and trade, the overbearing message is in the context of Iraq now being out of chapter VII, this is expected

[tlm724] Shredd yes and he said the banking system is sound  

[Shredd] the dinar being Iraq's currency

[Shredd] tlm724 yes and great article saying TBI is capitalized to a trillion in just ten years also, the tax benefits offered by the government is key folks. Tax protection for investments is HUGE "no taxes or fees" and this will be a cost for Iraq but they welcome it  - the Iraq bubble has started the dinar is going to gain power and prestige soon

[tlm724] Shredd that bubble is growing everyday ! its gonna bust any minute

[Shredd] yes, I was referring to an investment bubble....like dubai.....kinda like an investment bell curve

[tlm724] Shredd I was too , banks flooding in shredders

[Shredd] yes and more to come

[tlm724] you bet !

[Shredd] I mean, you wait just a few months and your competitive edge may be gone. so fast and furious

[tlm724] Citi opened the flood gates

[therealbubbie] Shredd they told the world what was about to happen!!! speculators must be biting at the bit !!

[Shredd] also, tlm724 I loved that article that talked about how when the reserves were 10bn the rate was 1200-1300 and now with 76bn it hasn't moved great article....again saying today's rate is ridiculous

   
[tlm724] Shredd yes they were making a huge statement with that ! They are embarrassed with the current status of the dinar. They want the dinar to meet up with their new prestige before the world !

[Shredd] yes and the great article Player46 posted about the paper dinar issues must be removed as well, same for counterfeiting....the new dinar solves all of that. It's expected by the govt

[tlm724] demanded !

[Shredd] "force" and we know what happens if the cbi governor don't do his job, so tick tock, it's upon us

[tlm724] dayum straight !

[dealerdean] *hallelujah*

[Shredd] my expectation on timing of the movement on the dinar rate has changed due to all this news in the past two days.....the project of the zeros requires a rate at or near a buck

[tlm724] Shredd chapter 7 release has elevated Iraq to a new level and the dinar is right behind it !

[Shredd] the rate can move independently of the project but the project cannot move without a par rate or better. Folks, if you just look at what is being told to us in the news these past few days, you can see that we are not going to be waiting years or even several months with the dinar being undervalued like it is and massive reserves, NEW gold

[tlm724] Shredd the oil and gas law was critical to have a sound plan for the country, I think that was a missing link to the whole thing

[Shredd] agreed timmy, agreed indeed !

[tlm724]  no doubt

[Shredd] and that gold and black gold will be huge with Iraq being a lender which is where big bucks can be made

[tlm724] going to be pumping 4 million bpd here soon

[rsp1] I know they haven't passed the oil and gas law yet....but they are working on it...

[tlm724] rsp1 malaki and barzani kissed over it yesterday so done  

[rsp1] doesn't it have to be gazetted?

[tlm724] it's just a formality now

[rsp1] ok, thanks

[tlm724] yqw

[therealbubbie] Maliki and Barzani agree to pass a law of oil and gas Published: Monday, 08 July 2013 Huda Jassim, agencies (Union) agreed that Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki today with the President of the Kurdistan region Massoud Barzani, Iraq to work to resolve differences between the two sides.

 Al-Maliki said at a joint press conference in the green city fortified central Baghdad "our differences and agreed to work to pass laws in Parliament, especially the stalled oil and gas law".

Barzani said "we agreed on cooperation and joint action and address threats to Iraq and the region", adding that "this is something we regard as a national duty."

Barzani arrived in Baghdad yesterday morning at the head of a high-ranking delegation to discuss outstanding issues between Baghdad and Erbil, in the first visit in three years.

Barzani's visit to Baghdad, complementary to the visit of the President of the regional government nechirvan Barzani's recent to the Iraqi capital, to discuss the outstanding issues between the two sides, as well as the budget law and the law of oil and gas, the peshmerga and the security in the disputed areas.http://www.faceiraq.com/inews.php?id=1842604

[tlm724] therealbubbie *hallelujah*  therealbubbie article 140, erbil agreement right there too  

[Shredd] therealbubbie such an amazing article, just reading through it again

[tlm724] the news gets better everyday !!

[Shredd] tlm724 yes   for maliki and barzani to resolve outstanding issues, especially article 140 is amazing. The timing of the kurds to resolve issues is huge

[tlm724] Shredd I am stting here thinking about all that Bondlady has taught us over the years and what we should look for and here it is upon us this day, incredible !!!

[Shredd] tlm724 truly

[tlm724] marjans its hard not to be excited ! We are witnessing history !

[Shredd] tlm724 back to the project to remove zeros, Turki hasn't come out with a counter for the government's push. imo, arrangements being made

[tlm724] Shredd no I don't expect one to be honest, it will be quiet for just a bit I would imagine

[Shredd] right not only did we get to dust off the "list" when Chap VII was removed we can now get ready to scratch off Aritcle 140

[tlm724] Shredd yes it's all done imo , art 140, completion of the Erbil agreement , oil and gas law

[therealbubbie] Shredd do you think we are closer than ever before !! like it's right there for the taking !!

[Shredd] ok, so Maliki may be politcally motivated here to push for what will benefit his country

[lightingcslt] tlm724 done but not gazetted yet

[tlm724] lightingcslt right

[Shredd] therealbubbie after the news of the last few days around the project to delete the zeros as well as the investment and tax law....very exciting

[tlm724] it makes sense to have their ducks in a row (laws) if for nothing else for self preservation . I mean not only do these laws protect say investors and how the oil profits are divided etc.. they also protect Iraq. It's like okay lets sign this contract / MOU Canada and later we will work out the details, not smart business, just sayin  

[Shredd] it's all connected, investment greases the wheels of any economy

[BondLady] yes it has EVERYTHING to do with investors ! The HCl and Chapter 7 removal is exactly what has stopped huge conglomerates from investing in Iraq. Who wants to go invest millons and billons of dollars in a country that doesn't have the laws in place to protect the investors and why would they come to a place when you couldn't deal with them internationally ?

[BondLady] some do yes, but the massive flow in, now and after HCL, will be unbelieveable, it's the last frontier for investors imo. Uncharted territory ...

[therealbubbie] [Shredd] therealbubbie after the news of the last few days around the project to delete the zeros as well as the investment and tax law....very exciting.. *hallelujah*

[Shredd] yes...let me add to that if I may. For financial products, soooooooooooooooo many are incorporated in the cayman islands, why? tax treatments and........ for any financial institution to be a party to these instruments like my bank is they have to be co-issued domestically, most are in Delaware, why?

tax treatments,taxes are huge and for Iraq to waive taxes and "fees" to welcome investment is huge now, let me add this too..... Iraq is virtually non-existant in the financial product market because they have not gone into Article VIII of the IMF I've studied it and it basically allows free trade and exchange in a nutshell  

[Shredd] and once that takes place..... all this tax treatment and welcoming of investment from Maliki and others will finally make the rubber hit the road and this isn't going to take months folks all heads turned June 27th the good kind of chaos is going on now a scurry of investment is getting ready it's a bubble coming similar to Dubai as of late  but this race can't actually start till Iraq moves into VIII of the IMF there isn't a long list of deliverables, this is upon us

[Shredd] that is why we see the expectation of the central bank to have a sovereign currency representing a new sovereign democracy, it's all connected, article 140 moving FINALLY!! the smart cards are working everything is moving forward fast and the current dinar isn't.........the new dinar will come along with all this forward motion and the new country Iraq is becoming before our eyes

[Shredd] removing the zeros ...... increase the rate........open all doors for investment , implement tax benefits.....move into Article VIII of the IMF and allow free trade and exchange it's all connected and moving all before our eyes !

Barzani and Maliki in agreement, the Finance Committee and government saying move forward with the currency exchange when just a year ago,

they were saying hold off the news in the past few days is amazing folks....like we have said, Iraq is now in a whole new world....a fully sovereign democracy and this all comes with it. (ok, i'm done cheering)

[BondLady] tyvm everyone

ARMYVET CHAT, 9 JULY

GET:

[arizona49] BAGHDAD / With: spokesman called white parliamentary bloc Kazem Al-Shammari to make an appointment to reset the Iraqi currency. Al-Shammari said in a press statement, received a "news the future," a copy of it, that "the high volume of reserves of Iraq from foreign currency to $ 76 billion in addition to the 30 tons of gold bullion, and out of Iraq from Chapter VII, make it necessary to set a date to reset the Iraqi currency ." "The investment of this reserve big help to raise the value of the Iraqi currency compared to foreign currencies, and thus will contribute to reduce the prices of goods and commodities, would be reflected on improving the living standards for the Iraqi people and thus contribute to the insurance community and reduce crime and the fight against terrorism." Ended 

LINK

[ARMYVET] ok i will have an UNOFFICIAL statement to put in here in a second. Talking to my WF/Finance dude about that release

[ARMYVET] ok so what im getting it that there is a tug-a-war in place between the IMF and CBI. CBI is required to reports its current holding and estimated sustainable worth the the WB and in conjunction to the IMF. the article that we have been talking about is a complete differance than the RV. Its not the RV,
[sherkay] ARMYVET why you say that???

[ARMYVET] so the reset the Iraqi currency is what CBI is shooting for, they get reactivated pre-war rate that was turned off like a light switch. + or - an calculated adjustment

[ARMYVET] the RV is the assessment by the IMF in conjunction with its reported value/holding and what not

 [oilerfan] ARMYVET so now what hummmmm

[sarge] ARMYVET So the CBI did not report it's worth/value to the WB?

[ARMYVET] now last week CBI stated they can sustain a 2.5. they want the reenstatement BEFORE the IMF meeting and starts their playing field closer to the 50 yard line (IE higher rate)

 [ARMYVET] 3.44

[ARMYVET] as we have all heard and up to 2%ish like 3.8something

[ARMYVET] if they are unable to get it done , passed, activated, whatever, then they fall subject to whatever the IMF and all its agencies FEEL they can sustain

[oilerfan] ARMYVET when is the meeting

[ARMYVET] 11th July 2013

[ARMYVET] to set the rates for 15JUL13

[ARMYVET] 24 hours prior to that meeting all reports, earnings and whatever from each country are due to have that info available for the IMF to determain the rate setting

[oilerfan] ARMYVET i often heard a July 15 was a date to be dealt with hummmm forgot what it was for thanks Army

[ARMYVET] IE the 24 hour prior mojo

[ARMYVET] so they are trying to get'er'done as im to understand. He did say YES, their systems are in effect and comply with the guidelines mandated by the IMF to support the availability of Basel III

ARMYVET] not all locations are, but that as long as the branch as a whole has that ability they have made it and are working on outlining modifications and updates

[ARMYVET] i wish i had written down the IMF release, investigation he referanced

[oilerfan] ARMYVET so we wait till the 15th

 [ARMYVET] but he stated that in a time of war, the IMF/WTO/WB what not will freeze a country under wartime and sanctions makeing them worth nothing

ARMYVET] after their release, they are, and i quote, REQUIRED to be submitted back onto the playing field internationally and its original rate reenstated, unless totally stricken as a nation due to wartime related issues

ARMYVET] he states, that he is unaware of the workings oversaes, but in his professional oppinion, they are in a race to get it reactivated back to its original state to assist its exchange for a better adjustment.

[hopeful2&2] ARMYVET so you thinking before the 11th or after

[ARMYVET] now i know we all heard about the FLOAT option

[ARMYVET] if they dont, the IMF will do their adjustment and be arquired to formally adjust it, most likely upwards, every two weeks

[ARMYVET] he stated also that daily ates US are determained for adjustments at 6am, and noon and 6pm internationaly for the US EST

[ARMYVET] Im thinking they can hope they get there, but IMO, my money is on the IMF adjustment

[oilerfan] ARMYVET iraq never does anything on schedule for sure

[hopeful2&2] ARMYVET what rate do you think the imf would start at ??

[ARMYVET] i dont know, there is sooo much info they are trying to pipeline out

[ARMYVET] did touch base about the global reset theory

[ARMYVET] he said its in referance to an emmerging economy that creates the illusion

[ARMYVET] whatever that countries main comodities are the affelliated areas will start to adjust upon its emmergance

[ARMYVET] IF gold gropping, stocks moving and what not, IQD is a very powerful currency comming back on line and the world must adjust to its value, some go up and alot go down

[hopeful2&2] ARMYVET i missed part of this, who is saying this please??

[ARMYVET] I have a buddy that works for WF regional in TX, and also has his doctorine on Financial management

[ARMYVET] all off a call

ARMYVET] soooo, of course its all opinion, but the one thing he said you cant opinion and is total fact to put your fingert on is this, the common since part i stated at the start

[Rio51AllGo] Armyvet so he at least acknowledged this is real and WF is in the middle of it?

[ARMYVET] #1 released from 7, #2 have to be released back into the economies, #3 reports were provided and financial standing identified to the WB and IMF. and the best part is the IMF HAS to adjust them with the supplied info in the 11th

ARMYVET] he identified that WF has the ability to access the Basel system, now if its company policy they dont want to jump on board with IQD, i dont know, he said they still get the "We dont and Never will"

[ARMYVET] that statement is internationally wrong and now determained by guess who.....

[ARMYVET] C h i n a,,, ta da

[ARMYVET] in a nutshell, could reset any min or RV with the IMF on the 11th, was his opinion

LGTENNIS CHAT, 9 JULY

[lgtennis] legarde has political aspirations

[lgtennis] but those 4 countries are out now

[lgtennis] the countires they she invited in are done now

 [sarge] lgtennis Done or out?

[lgtennis] but it caused a major prob with her craziness

[lgtennis] 4 of them are out

[lgtennis] others are done

 [lgtennis] anyway legarde has been taken care of

[lgtennis] we are on our way to seeing this happen

[lgtennis] imo tonight or tmorrow 

[mikivi] $sign lgtennis lgtennis lgtennis $sign WE ARE SMELLING $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ $ 

[lgtennis] i mean its crazy its one thing or another in this

 [lgtennis] which is why as i was saying its political and power

 [lgtennis] iraq and again iraq has nothing to do with this at all

[lgtennis] they are part of the process period

[lgtennis] though its great seeing all thoese great articles out

 [lgtennis] they have done what they needed to do

 [lgtennis] now we are wiating for it to go international tonight or tomorrow

[IslandDancer] Thank You lgtennis!

 [lgtennis] this is all about the global reset that is taking place

 [lgtennis] huge task amazing

[lgtennis] 196 countries waiting to rv

 [lgtennis] now we are waiting on a sig that is huge 

[lgtennis] once we get that we will be gold backed

[lgtennis] usa will be

 [goodnightnurse!] omg 194 countries and a sig, oh my headbang1 

 [lgtennis] but with all that said we are there

 [lgtennis]  its all good guys

[lgtennis] read what i am saying to you

 [lgtennis] all taken care of 

 [justneedy] lgtennis I just got on, would you mind restating what you said above? thanks

 [IslandDancer] justneedy RV tonight or tomorrow!

[justneedy] IslandDancer that will be great!

[oldman] justneedy okie dokie

[tedd123] imo its time to recount the dinars woohoo1 

[lgtennis] imo rv tonight or tom

[IslandDancer] Simba lgtennis said CL tried to bring in four more countries, many got mad, took care of CL. Not going to bring in the other four countries. All is done. RV tonight or tomorrow .

[Berean] I heard Legarde wants to be president of France, ugh

 [lgtennis] Berean yes that is true

[lgtennis] so she has motives 

[lgtennis] but she is taken care of

[simba] igtennis....so if we get a signature tonight then we RV?

 [lgtennis] simba yes

lgtennis] its huge ….its for the gold standard

[simba] igtennis is there a reason to believe we will get a signature tonight?

[lgtennis] yes it can happen anytime

[simba] igtennis....anytime between now and eternity?

[lgtennis] lol anytime no worries

[mikivi] lgtennis signnnnnnnatureeeeeeeeeee please 

STEVEI UPDATE, 9 JULY

I talked to every I could that was available and they all told me the exact same thing. And that is there is nothing left to do regarding preparing for the changing in their currency value.

Ray talked to his contacts also and they are confirming what I just mentioned about. They (the Iraqi citizens) are thinking that this will happen at any moment.

No one is really sure as to why are they are dragging this out. 
The parliament is putting pressure in the CBI to move forward, and now with two very powerful articles about the immediate urgency to increase their value of their current is simply huge. Best news articles this year.

As you can see, the holiday has nothing to do with anything. Many have confirmed this.

So we just need to let it come to us as it will. So the question now is, are you all ready? I think most are, but for those that are waiting a bit longer, you might want to re-think that.

My focus has been on financial institutions for exchanging the Iraq currency for the US currency. Great progress and looks like we will get to share very soon.

I hope you had a restful 4th and a safe one at that.

I am extremely encouraged with the news today. You can almost just feel that it is right there.     Blessings,   Steve

jerQy, on 08 Jul 2013 - 5:41 PM, said: good to hear from you, Im sure I was not the only one wondering about your take on all the amazing news these past few days.

 
Steve:
  My other take on this after reading the articles today, I am shocked (well sort of) why this has not already happened. Actually today is probably the highlight of being one of the best day yet of this investment. 

Come on Iraq, you can do it! Blessings,  Steve

 
Revival, on 08 Jul 2013 - 5:57 PM, said:   Steve,   A question that has been on my mind i have read it right here on PD that they only have a certain time frame after the lifting of Chapter 7 to RV is that true if so what is the time frame or is this just another rumor???

Thank you sir for your time! Blessings to you and your family,   ReVival

 
Steve:  No you are not correct. There is no timeframe to do this in. Blessings,  Steve

TONY NOTES CC FROM TNT FORUM, 8 JULY

TNT Call with Tony for Today - Monday 7/8/13 ... Playback number is559.726.1399...409029#THIS IS TNT DINAR'S Call Notes for MONDAY JULY 8, 2013 and I apologize for anything missing, TONY was much clearer and louder on this call, so the recording will be great!    This is what I heard.  It's Tony's opinion - based on what he's received via sources in the Dinar community and the World.  Feel free to always verify what you hear, and do your own due diligence.   Thank you for being a part of TNT DINAR.      :)   Montana

Monday July 8, 2013

GOOD MORNING!!!SUPER FANTASTIC THIS COULD BE A REALLY REALLY LONG CALL TODAY Because I have so much info to talk about.

Whats happening in Iraq,  overall,  and at the Banks, so this could be an unusually long call, how could that be, when Tony does 2 hour calls...but..
IRAQ:  Barzani and Maliki met again, and made agreements, announcements,  made it public,  HCL,  news articles,  and everyone is happy
Looking at things on the boards, ch7 still a ?,  agreements still a question?  You have to ask yourself?  Would the UN release them and then still have to work w/ them on the sanctions? 

They're announcing on the news that they are FREE TO MAKE THIER OWN DECISIONS.
So if thats true, then what would that have to do w/ ..
And could 1 person, hold the world system ransom,  that doesn't make any sense to me.
Not a factor that the RV didn't happen or Ch.7... or that they were moved to Ch 6, so I can't understand that at all. I don't believe thats what we are waiting for.Laws agreements, etc.. just like we do.
So if we are waiting for them to agree on everything, that will never happen.6 months after the RV they will still be passing laws.

If we look at Banking issues.Told you over the weekend there were some problems. Issues in DC, they used the word insider trading"
but there can't be with this.
Some ppl can't buy after a certain time, and that was an issue, but it was shut down;There was an issue putting the 4 countries in but with 4 crews working day and night thats done.
The Banks crew were told to go home until it was resolved, were manned yesterday, and told to be here at 7am Monday morning
As far as the system itself and where it fits into this 
going to do something diff. before we get to the banking situation.
Going to give you a broader scope of whats going on I've got to be careful since some think not everyone is ready for it
but i'll try anyway I'll give you a bigger picture of how the countries are related and the banks are related and you'll understand how the cash out procedure will be prolly never heard this on any other boards don't think this will hurt anything

You've head about groups forever. Diff. types of groups. Groups that send their dinars in and gets SKR's - from individuals,  not banks.
Then there are groups that are going to banks, and the banks give SKR's Then there are groups that are told to call the 888# and get a better  price.All banks want to give you a great price.

But there is a certain bank, w/ China, and I question the where, why China is the 1st country to own part of a US Bank
Why,  why is China that is the only country that can direct to the treasury, when the rest have to go to auction here is the fact of the matter when we needed to be Basel 3 compliant,  they did some things for us,  thats why they own part of the bank,  they'll benefit,  there was only so much dinar to go around,  they're not taking it, but a contract agreement in place, some stays here and some goes there--

w/ one bank, you;ll only get part of your dinar,  
w/ the other bank, you'll get all of  your dinar, they're going to be competitive trying to make you understand 
w/ every story there is always a little bit of truth behind it
if you are in the wrong type group, you'll still prolly lose your money some know that your money is gone some will find after the RV is there an advantage to being part of them -- yes
I talked to several banks, and they said the groups will get a higher rate,not all of them but some groups.
I didn't get to do the call w/ the banker,  I wanted to,  but they had meetings this morning,  and not just their branch, but others,  all had meetings this summer,  and the guy I was supposed to talk to, said it's not about the dinar, but thats what they are supposed to say.

Going to give you the banking group Whats going to happen at the bank You'll have an option to be part of the group they'll give out 888 numbers one that you formed or someone else formed
you will negotiate w/ the bank based on the amt. 
The total group has they'll make an offer, based on his negotiating skills and then they'll....lets say the base rate is $5 and this is just an example if the base is $5,  and you have 500 B,  he negotiates a rate of $9 that means that everyone in that group is going to get more than 5 so here's your group name and # and then they'll refer you to this,  ie. 
 I'm in Tony's group, and you tell them how much dinar you have personally,  ie. 1M,  ok,  the rate was 5, you'll get 6,  the highest rate the group will get, will be 9,  and the person w/ the lowest amount of dinar will get more than the 5.
Does it work to your advantage, it does. Extra dollar or 2.

The majority of ,  I know they can go into double digits and they will,  but only for a period of time that makes sense to them,  and then they will offer less and less, even within your group.
Diff banks will do diff amts.   They're competitive and now we have the smaller banks that will be able to also.
They will come out w/ 888 numbers, and they'll assign you to a branch, if you call as an individual,  but groups will be guaranteed a base rate.
Not everyone will get the $12,  I hope he gets it.
The guy that set it up.

Form your own little groups.Bankers that I've talked to, will accept groups,  Private Bankers will not send their groups to the 888 # thats a good thing I guess.

I hope this eve. or tomorrow, we'll get more in depth info.
So now we are we in this?
When they got out of Ch.7,  they told them they'd get paid by the 7th, they took it off the TV - they got an extension,  and then I was   Qi cards, weren't loaded,  the ones that got theirs activated last week, they are still active.
Everything doesn't happen at the same time.

Just because one person says that he knows someone whose card is not active doesn't mean that the rest aren't. They're doing them and the masses will be loaded.
Starting last night, once we knew the Budget was published, etc.. all I heard was its done, we'll see it... some thought last night,  the info I was told it was NOT for last night, but from this day forward

It's in process and we should be seeing it.As usual after I do the call, I get more info. So, I think thats where we are at.
Going.  According to plan. They're saying its over and done with.  Now that its public. Haven't been able to get info from over there.
After the bank info,  I'll get info. I don't think this is a great day.Nothing negative out there. They put the 4 countries in, because they couldn't wait till the next basket is scheduled.
I always thought that it would make sense - to go at the same time --- so no double dipping. So there is a 2nd basket.
Lets do Q & A

Because everything was resolved

Q & A
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c- do we need an appt. to cash out VND
t- haven't heard that, its already a traded currency, unless it is based on the volume
any branch can do that for you.
NEXT
c- ty, ty, ty, ty, ty, so ty, ty, ty ( Wow )   someone came into chat, a class for Asset protection 101 ???
T- on PTR we did some things w/ Anderson Law group,
c- never joined PTR,  but listened to the calls,  stopped listening because I didn't hear enough of you... trying to find you on the Internet,  I was ahead of the curve,
t- only been here - less than a week now
c- the 2 day delay... are the 2 days being added from when it was supposed to happen, did you every get resolution
t- no,  i didn't, hopefully i'll get it, if the 2 days were today or tomorrow, we're still there,  the words that are being used now,  are it's over and done.
t- so where are the 2 days
c- if Ramadan is not going to be an issue
t- that I know, its not an issue
c- ty for your time
next
c- if the rate is $12, ( muffled )  negotiate,
t- you don't, time frame... in the beginning every bank out there is trying to get you, and the branches for every bank
I'll give you the example again
if it came out at $3 and I want to give you $9 to get you in
but it hits Forex,  and its $5, I can still give you $9 but its not as good as before,
or lots of folks came in and now I'll offer you 8,  because its going down as it settles, so tomorrow will go down again,  or if I'm that bank and I say, I'll give you the $1 but you have to keep your money here for 8months, instead of 6 months.
There will be a bottom rate and a top rate,  if you are happy with the bottom rate, then, ok,  if you aren't with a group, they'll do the same thing,  they'll send you to an extension and make an offer w/ you and tell you to go to a bank.....
c- get trust set up, can you negotiate w/out a trust
t- dealing w/ the banks, call the 888 numbers
t- exchangers say they will be competitive w/ the banks
t- if we can get more info, we'll do this again
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c- I'm a mom, and smoking cigars is no good for you
c- the Rupiah, is the rate going up on that, or can you go to the bank w/out an appt.
t- everything is being set up for the dinar, don't think you need an appt. for that.,  but tellers that are trained for that
c- don't forget about what I said about smoking
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c- want to thank everyone who helped you make this line available and the website available, so quickly
t- I always like to thank them,  and worked tirelessly, to make it better, we are looking to do a Radio Site, blast it to your speakers,  and one guy that owns a radio station who wants to do it, and an online radio, should have it in the next day, and the chat room we have, right now we have 4-5 #s bridged in.
c- the evolution of the website is phenomenal
c- based on rumor,  Wed. or Thursday, like Kuwait
t-Kuwait was different, it had an in country RV, and they could all see it
t- this is the first time this has happened - its a Global reset - its an electronic reset, trying to do it from the cards first,  get them to use the cards, to make them an electronic society,  they're doing it over there,  our fault, is that we think things should be done the way we want to do it,  look at JPMorgan and Citibanks,  they never trusted their banks,  go to FB,  talking about their cards being loaded , using them and the rate.  Don't be overly excited, don't get depressed, its taking time, but we also know they are trying to push this through, now.
c- the next 24/72 hours is a good window for us?
t- think its a great window,  tv is signing that there is 76B extra money from the budget, how strong they will be as Iraq emerging from Ch. 7, security in meetings all money, did a dry run the last time...
Thats whats going on over there and the meetings at the bank,  get after the call, the merchants over there,  update,  if there is enough to do a call, I will and if not, I'll post it in the forum.
c- thanks to you and your team
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Is the cash out or exchange process, for the street ppl if they are not in a group>
T- calls based on how they come in,  they'll send you to an extension and the rate that you will be offered,  you can go in and negotiate on your own, flexibility in there,  i will tell you when ... its not actually there, I'm sure we'll be aware, once it happens,  trying to give you the basic structure, the options, even if you put one bank agains the other, dial both 888 numbers.
They're trying to simplify it, and I'm making it more complicated.
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c- hearing we should have a separate account for the dong and dinar
c- in the beginning they said that, don't put them together, ??
t- I haven't heard that it matters, you'll have a receipt for them
c- we're on the same wavelength
c- Ray Ren's calls,  when , date,
t- you won't believe this,  his calls are 24 hours a day basically,  I don't know how he does it,  everytime I call him, he's on open Mic,  he starts at 4am, they do 2 hours of church, then... I don't know the number..maybe one of the listeners can post it on the forum, he's in there every day.
c- are you ok w/ wiring from DB to your bank,....
t-I think the... don't post the open mic number------you wont' believe this
DON'T SEND THE OPEN MIC
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING WILL BE A PROBLEM SENDING A WIRE, FROM DB, and it still has to go thru the Fed Res.  the problem is when it's in your account and then wires will go out, and they'll monitor it, and it will be on hold,  .....they are going to go thru and thats why they said, not to wire anything over 500K in the first 30 days,  so not into the acct.,  but out of the acct.
they expect it to come from the exchange
c- when do you expect the RV, from now to
t- from now to tomorrow, lol,  they gave us a window,  I'm expecting it anytime, everyone is a saying its over and done with, they fixed the 4 countries, and this thing is going thru,  can't give you the exact time frame, I think we will see it in the still of the night.
T- Let me tell you this quick
GETTING INFO, THAT WE WILL HAVE A TEXT SERVICE, to send a text out to you.
Full name, etc..
don't think so, but we'll need to load it
I'm looking at servers, that should be done,  I haven't looked at it,  want to send a text out to let you know that we are having a call,  but let's see how much it will cost me first...
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c- out of the capital area, reserve on order, and they change it thru Sterling, but also have dinar from other sources, will they be able to exchange it w/ them too?
t- yes
t- what I'm hearing is,  call the 888 # there are certain companies they won't take it from, so if you bought it from them, they won't take it,  but if they don't - you can take it to the bank anyway,  they'll do whats in their best interest.
c- after Vegas, when will you come to NC, and will you share investment opportunities, and how can a NC person participate.
t- I'll come to NC before Vegas, and to eat,  not talk,  will put it out there, and do a little meeting - get together,  will tell you what I'm doing, relax, no presentations
just coming to see the family
c- thank you for all you do, even the website, your character and integrity
READY FOR AN UPDATE????
Here is the thing,  while we are talking... get the info,  decide for ourselves,  opinions
--- I like that,  I look at this like a learning experience for all of us.
How the banking works,  even the 888 #,  so you can think and think again, and do it now, before it goes in.
HERE IS WHAT I GOT
THEY HAD MEETINGS THIS MORNING
THEY REVEALED THEIR ACTIONS
WORKING LATE TONIGHT
COMING IN EARLY TOMORROW
OVERTIME IS APPROVED
AND THEY ARE EXCITED

I changed the words...
c- Tony the fearless tiger, you take them on
c- is that Iraq or here?
T- no thats here, they are waiting for you
c- DB, DC how are they going to go above the CBI rate and be competitive with the banks,
t- well,  I could give you some options, based on info I rec'd over the weekend,  the only way they can be competitive
there are 2 options
don't know if either one is true, but the only 2 things that I can think of.
1.  CBI will totally back them, give more so we can get our tax credits back
2.  They made an agreement w/ China, because both would pay to get tax credits
c- the dinar represents .$32... lots of room for horse trading,
t- its only $2 to pull it out of the ground,  Iraq can give a whole lot more and not give you teh $32, and China would want to do,  they have more room to party
and they can get it so much cheaper,  can't guarantee that either would do i
c- makes sense that our gov. would do it
t- always said that myself, why let them buy up all the dinar, through our banking system, because there is more than just the dinar, kick back, its part of a larger deal, to  make everyone basis compliant,  the reset,  they couldn't make more dinar,  we've divided the pie, and how to do we give them ... to get it done over there,  can't change 1303 to say Chinese and Americans can do that,
c- hope we have a big enough share
c- where do you thin the ceiling might be
t- double digits,  can't give you the #,  if I gave you that number, everyone would last until they gave them the #, and they've changed the # since I got it
c- some forums are talking over $20 and Shabs said, that CBI could spend around $16
c- so is the 20 feaseable, or mid range that the banks are going to offer
t- mid range
c- nervous about forming a group, flaky and their own agenda
c- did call to a Big 4, and told that person, they were not interested in dealing w/ a group, only individual, due to privacy and amt. of money transacting
t- I can understand that,  forgot I was supposed to tell you this
THE EXCHANGE RATE OF 2-5% CAN PROBALY BE NEGOTIATED
COULD GO DOWN TO ZERO
OVER 10 M. USD , YOU ARE ASSIGNED A WEALTH MNGR
OVER 1M USD, YOU ARE ASSIGNED A SENIOR PRIVATE BANKER
The higher ups are establishing the rules,  months ago - they were told to not let you out with that money,  the more they bring in, the better they look.  They're not there for you.  No matter what they tell you.
c- and thats the concern, their interests are divided and not in your favor and I'd be suspect of the deals they bring to the table, looking at other avenues
t- they are trained to direct you into certain investments
c- trying to keep the customer happy
c- not giving the lion's share to one bank
c- I'll divide some to out of the country also
t- be flexable and spread out,  diversify, in the holdings and the banks its in both
t- I can promise you, that some of you will def. loose money, its a learning curve, it will happen
c- any further thoughts on a TNT group, w/ the exchangers or the banks or several
t- was going to talk to the banker this morning about that
c- hate to be a clanging cymbol, but leveraging tool,  strength in numbers
t- didn't want to do it on the other site, but now, w/ our own members
c- ty for all you do,  and thank you for all the ppl that helped you get the site up, nice to get a cross section of news,  and you are one of the options that we've chosen , and those that helped you put it together,  my husband and I salute them all.
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c- was there a rate attached'
t- there was a dollar amt. in dinar, and how it was to be spent, didn't read the whole thing, but it's supposed to be $3.44 and thats the rate there, but we're looking at something totally different
c- i remember you saying that
c- also heard ...cbi  not shipping dinar
t- heard a half billion last week,  but if thats true, maybe I should buy some more today
t- even if they stop selling, when the RV is announced, they exchangers will still sell, and the banking laws changed, so they can sell it too
The exchangers made so much money, and the banks wanted to.
Its going to be available at a new rate.
c- love the new site
t- haven't gone through it, the ppl that made this,  Pam Already Blessed,  Montana,  So ready for it, thats my daughter,  raillroader, Paula, Steve, and I appreciate them every day... its a team effort and everyone getting it done.
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c- someone came on and said connected to the right place
c- thank you for that
c-disappointed how the UN....a blessing for themselves,  and not embarass themselves
c- as a group , is it feasable to go out of the community, how does that go, if you have a group, and they live here and there... do they go to the same branch...
t- I don't know, its a good question, when you dial the 888 number they'll direct you to the branch,  form your group for those not around you,  I'd have to do it w/ ppl I trust,  I want to negotiate, that I have 20 ppl, that have $X million,  I don't want to know what anyone has , except for me
but its all going to be higher than the street rate.
I don't want you to think you have to do it.
t- there are some groups out there, that have the 888 numbers, but you still need to know that the group leader is saying I got $12,  but you need to know the high and the low.
t- we have 4400 registered members
but 5000 on the lines
messing w/ you
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c- congrats on your site, its perky
c- Wasn't the budget published 4-6 months ago
t- March and April, is when it was voted on, not published, we waited to see it opened, so we can party
c- talking about 80B,  and 30 tons of gold, ref?
t- reserves are 80B,  the assets to back the dinar
t- how can our currency be this?
c- Shabs in NY did say $15
c- mentioned that there was 1 company that wouldn't take the dinar back?
t- I said they wouldn't take it form certain companies,  call Sterling
c- think your awesome, the site is fabulous, and Jedi 1 called in, haven't seen him in a long time
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c- listened to you since DV, the PD, and so glad you have your own place
the budget written trillions
t- yep, when they make the announcement it will convert
t- wrote it that way to confuse ppl
t- there is a method to the madness, just trying to figure it out
c- any moment
t- no one told me we have to wait,  they're saying its finally done, its over,  are they prepared, for it , yes they are,  but don't know when,  the 2 day delay, is over tomorrow,  if its from the 7th which they told their ppl, then we go into the 9th,  can't keep announcing to their ppl, and when are we going to have our money?   Don't want to be like Egypt,  we'll see it in the very near future,
c- all the contacts, seem to be 100%,  can;t see it....
t- me neither, can't see them say we need to negotiate more,  why have it on the TV etc..
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c- TX
yeah Tony's Team,  I like the site, and give my 2 cents, go RV, I'm ready for it
t - ty
c-outstanding
c- latest rate on the dong
t- on the bank screen this morning at .87 cents
t- but the rate is supposed to be higher than that

c- if its .50 I'll be jumping up and down
( joking about the Vegas  party )
c- if it comes in at .87 I'll foot the bill
t- i'll write your number down
c- heard of Belize
t-yes
c- whats the scoop
c- getting emails and they want me to buy real estate
t- like Nigeria, wouldn't put my wallet in the back pocket
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c- congratulations on the elves, i enjoy what they done, when do you think we'll go to the banks, make decisions before we go, and very interested in after RV opportunities
t-first time I heard them as Elves,  magical what they did
t- hearing its done and over,  but different than before, and I'm waiting like you are
c- compare the rates
t- on bank sites, they'll all have currency traders, it changes during the day,  they don't memorize it,  before you go, and before you call the 888 number,  Chase will do it once a day,   WF and BofA may do it hourly
After the RV, want to say, that we'll be here, but unfortunately, EVERYONE THAT IS INVOLVED IN PUTTING THIS SITE TOGETHER,  we'll all be in ATLANTA cashing out.
But I'll try to come on and give you cash out info to keep you updated, and give out what I can, get Vegas together,  I didn't plan this,  RayRen can be there with trust info, and the Annunity company,  No law firms yet,   looking at 3-4 days rotate in, and see the presenters, every afternoon spend time as smaller groups, and get to know ppl on the boards,  and try to schedule entertainment for those that don't want to go out on the strip...
Been together 3 years, celebrate it with each other.
c- got a kick out of the guy from Granberry, HootToot
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c- excellent job,  do you think I can get my husband a Range Rover?
t- tell him after you finish mine,  I hope you can buy him 2 on Thurs.
t- not hearing anything negative
t- everyone having meetings this morning
t- calls/ texts/ here that its on track, and any minute, and any day
t- don't know if its happening this afternoon, but I'll sit in the bank parking lot anytime
c- listened to a call w Kenya, Art and Ken, and other calls saying the same thing,  all is positive, great day, it should have happened twice last week,  but always one thing that stopped it, DC, or 4X, there was always one little thing and then it would have gone, but lets see if it goes today
c- double digits,
t- with the float, def. going to float, designed that way
t- the dealers will be competitive and I gave the 2 scenarios that I know
c-?
t- might be too large, its possible, they told me they'd take the group,  but that was a group of 25 - 30,  now do I say do I tell them its 2000-3000
t- that whole group is standing at the one bank
t- to do it for the whole country, at that level, even if I did it, it wouldn't guarantee the top rate,  it would be the bottom rate,  better than the street rate
ie. if you had 100K dinar,  versus the bank w/ 100K, they won't bargin with you, its not enough to bargin with you.
c- you going to talk w/ your ppl
t- they had a meeting this morning, they called them in
c- next call is Wed.
t- got the text info while we're here, about the text... to send out an alert
t- like to send a text each time we do a call
t- might do a call this afternoon, if the info is good
c- thanks
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c- in a nursing home
c- thank you
c- registered for chat room
c- some issues
t- can you get into the forum ok?,
c- yes
t- in the forum, on index, 2nd topic is TNT chat...click on that
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c-thank everyone, fantastic job, saw in the Forum, an article form CNN Australia, that it RV'd in Iraq
t- I saw it
c- person, guru, that said it RV'd in Iraq, and that...confused me, it owuldn't show on the forex, until July 15th, then it wouldn't show the rate to everyone, because they'd be paying out group
t- got to tell you,  first of all, don't know whats going on in Australia, as it was explained to me, when they use the cards the rate adjusts,  as far are 4X, if its on , we'll see it,  it will show at the banks before it shows on 4X
and as far as the groups getting paid before you and i---NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
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c- the whole group thing,  I have a good chunk and my husband & I are going to do it on our own,  is there a # - that if you have this much dinar...ball park, and this is what I'd like to get.
t- I'm thinking when it actually happens - i'll tell you what the rate is, unless they tell me I can't.  The high and low,  Ppl that are going to make you sign an NDA, ridiculous stuff. As far as you going in and getting the rate, its based on how much you have, and your negotiating skills, and the relationship skills.
c- ie. 10M,  outright and 10M on reserve,  like to get $8
t- oh yeah
c- doable
t- I think so
c- I'd be happy w/ 3.44,  been in a long time, 3 years,  long for me,  and get the most bang for the bucks.   Even if we don't get the higher rate, maybe its more than we thought.
t- negotiate from the top down.
c- want the best rate, and might go to another bank,  they don't want you to walk out the door.
t- its part of negotiating.
t- if they haven't given you what you can't refuse.....
t- put all your skills to work
c- can we go in and say Tony says....lol
t- Tony who
c-I bet some listen
t- a guy went into the bank and said Tonys on the ph, and they passed the ph around for me to talk...
c- celebrity Tony
c- better to say currency exchange vs cashing out
t- yes, I think so
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DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 8 JULY

7-8-2013  Intel Guru Bulldog75   WE NOW SEE JP MORGAN CHASE ALONG WITH CITIGROUP AND STANDARD CHARTERED BANKS GETTING THEIR TOE HOLD INTO THE ROBUST BOOM OF IRAQ.  THERE'S 15 INTERNATIONAL BANKS OPERATING NOW ALONG WITH 7 STATE BANKS IN IRAQ. THEY ARE PERCHED AND READY FOR THE ECONOMIC EVENTS.  THE TREND IS OUR FRIEND AND THIS CE [CURRENCY EXCHANGE] WILL HAPPEN.  JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL AND THE POWER STRUCTURE. WE ARE SO CLOSE.  CARDS WILL BE ACTIVATED WHEN THE GREEN LIGHT FLASHES.

7-8-2013  Intel Guru TerryK   IM HEARING RUMORS THIS MORNING THAT BANKING SYSTEM IS BUSY.   IM HEARING THIS AM THAT IRAQ HAS POSTED IN GAZETTE THE BUDGET WITH OLD NUMBERS.   [so when do you think it will show? TUESDAY NIGHT IS MY GUESS.  [when Ramadan starts tomorrow will this affect the RV]  IT WILL HAVE NO EFFECT.

7-8-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru Arthur     IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN RATHER THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO BE OFFICIALLY BASIL III COMPLIANT WHEN THE COMPTROLLER SIGNS THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS ON TUESDAY FOR THE GCR TO START.  ADD THIS TO THE FACT THAT THE KURDS AND THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT HAVE REACHED A PRELIMINARY AGREEMENT OF OIL AND GAS AND AT THE VERY LEAST IT IS NOW OFFICIALLY SAFE TO SAY THAT THE WE SHOULD ALL NOW BE ON HIGH ALERT!  [post 3 of 3]

7-8-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru Arthur     IT WAS EXPECTED FOR THE NUMBERS TO STILL BE IN THE OLD RATE AS JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE ENTERED THE BUDGET INTO THE GAZETTE MAKING IT NOW ENFORCEABLE DOESN'T MEAN THEY NEED TO CONVERT THE BUDGET INTO THE NEW RATE FOR ALL TO SEE AHEAD OF THE GLOBAL RESET. THIS IS ANOTHER MAJOR STEP.   THEY ARE TIMING THIS SO THAT ALL OF THESE EVENTS WILL HAPPEN SIMULTANEOUSLY WHEN THE PTB FLIP THIS FINAL SWITCH AND LAUNCH THE RELEASE OF ALL THESE CURRENCIES WITHIN THIS FIRST BASKET OF WHICH THE IQD WILL BE THE STAR OF THE SHOW.  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

7-8-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru Arthur   AT THIS TIME PRELIMINARY INDICATIONS ARE THAT, DUE TO IT BEING OFFICIALLY PLACED INTO THE GAZETTE, THE 2013 IRAQI FEDERAL BUDGET HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY ENTERED INTO LAW FOR ENFORCEMENT.  THE TIMING OF THIS COINCIDES WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE KNOW IS HAPPENING IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN FOR THE GLOBAL RESET TO COMMENCE.  [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

7-8-2013  Intel Guru TD   With Parliament now joining the Economic Commission, The Finance Committee and I'm told also The CBI on the same page & mindset of REMOVAL OF ZEROS FROM THE CURRENCY, what do U actually think they will do?   Today is the most important day parallel to removal from Chapter 7 because the IMF DID approve the last plan of currency reform Iraq submitted WITH a few tweaks, which the parties I mentioned will be voting on today

7-8-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    TURKI, THE CBI GOVERNOR, SAID THEIR WOULD BE A BIG SURPRISE IN THE NEAR FUTURE IN REGARDS TO THE RATE OF THE DINAR.  [why would they want to put off the RV until 2014?]  THEY CAN'T...NOT WITHOUT ANOTHER INTERNAL WAR. PEOPLE WILL NOT STAND FOR IT AND THE DEMONSTRATION BEFORE WOULD BE MILD COMPARED TO IF THEY LIE TO THEM AGAIN AND REFUSE TO GET THEM PAID. HOPEFULLY THE AGENDA ON TOMORROWS [MONDAY]  MEETING WILL PASS THE HCL AND THAT WILL GET THE CARDS CHARGED AND THE PEOPLE PAID. POPPY3

7-8-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    [the recent flurry of delete the zeros articles referencing ..."remove the zeros from the currency" and "currency exchange" and "restructure the currency" has me a bit worried. It makes it sound like our 25K note will be exchanged for a new 25 note.]  "delete the zeros" - is a translational issue. It simply means they intend to "take them out" of the market place.  [does July still look good with the games Maliki is playing?]   I think it is a legitimate time-line. 

7-8-2013  Newshound Guru Med     I WAS ASKED A ? ...HOW DOES IT BECOME TRADEABLE?   THAT COMES FROM CBI NOWHERE ELSE BUT I AM NOT SURE THAT WITH CHASE, CITIBANK AND BOA GOING BACK TO IRAQ AND SETTING UP SHOP IT IS NECESSARY FOR US.  IT ALL DEPENDS,  ARE THEY GOING TO EXCHANGE CURRENCY IN THE U.S. OR NOT.  IF THEY DO THEN IT MATTERS.   NOW ALL WE NEED IS THE CURRENT EXCHANGE RATE.  [post 2 of 2]

7-8-2013  Newshound Guru Med    I SEE NOW WE HAVE JPMORGAN CHASE COMING INTO IRAQ AS I PREDICTED IT WOULD WITH BOA.  PARLIAMENT IS DEMANDING THE REMOVAL OF THE ZERO'S FROM THE NATIONS CURRENCY AND ALSO THE BANKING SYSTEM MOVE INTO THE 18TH CENTURY...THEY CRIED TO BE REMOVED FROM CHAPTER VII,  THEY GOT IT NOW THEY AS USUAL SEEM NOT READY WITH A GAME PLAN OR ONE THAT WILL BE ACCEPTED.  THEY NEED TO MOVE TO A FREE MARKET ECONOMY... [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

7-8-2013  Intel Guru Jester   [concerning timing do they still see it as a prerequisite to pull the trigger on a weekend]  IT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST PROBABLE...I AM NOT AWARE OF A TWO DAY EXTENSION...I STILL HAVE YET TO SEE THAT IN WRITING...THE 10 DAYS...OR THE EXTENSION...WE ARE AWARE THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS ON HIGH ALERT...WAITING TO GET WHAT THEY NEED TO DONE...WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING ELSE IN BETWEEN...BUT, WE HAVE BEEN FOOLED BEFORE...THERE MAY BE SOMETHING IN THERE WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT.   [post 2 of 2]

7-8-2013  Intel Guru Jester   DID YOU KNOW THEIR [IMF] ORIGINAL MANDATE WAS TO ASSIST IN THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL MONEY SYSTEM AFTER WWII?  THAT IS WHAT THEY STILL DO TODAY... COUNTRIES PUT MONEY INTO THE SYSTEM AND GET SDR'S - SPECIAL DRAWING RIGHTS - AND OTHER COUNTRIES CAN BORROW FROM THE POOL...[we should want to put away our greed in getting this done today over praying that the whole world gets fixed in whatever time frame it takes?]   THAT IS A VERY GOOD POST... EXACTLY.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]


7-8-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   THE SUBJECT OF RAMADAN HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AS A RESTRICTIVE TIMING FACTOR. WHILE IN THE PAST THIS MAY HAVE BEEN TRUE, THIS TIME, IT IS NOT. THIS IS THE FIRST RAMADAN THAT HAS BEEN SO CLOSELY ASSOCIATED WITH AN ENTIRE GLOBAL RESET THAT IRAQ'S HOLIDAY WILL POSE NO INTERFERENCE WHATSOEVER. REMEMBER---THERE ARE NEARLY 200 COUNTRIES INVOLVED AND I AM SURE IT IS A HOLIDAY IN SOME OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES ALSO--THIS IS AN ISSUE OF OPTIMUM TIMING GEARED TO THE NEEDS OF THE WORLD FINANCIAL SYSTEM AND NOT ANY 1 COUNTRY

ARTHUR UPDATE, 8 JULY

7-8-13 Arthur: AT THIS TIME PRELIMINARY INDICATIONS ARE THAT, DUE TO IT BEING OFFICIALLY PLACED INTO THE GAZETTE, THE 2013 IRAQI FEDERAL BUDGET HAS BEEN OFFICIALLY ENTERED INTO LAW FOR ENFORCEMENT. 

THE TIMING OF THIS COINCIDES WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE KNOW IS HAPPENING IN THE NEXT 48 HOURS THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN FOR THE GLOBAL RESET TO COMMENCE.
  IT WAS EXPECTED FOR THE NUMBERS TO STILL BE IN THE OLD RATE AS JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE ENTERED THE BUDGET INTO THE GAZETTE MAKING IT NOW ENFORCEABLE DOESN'T MEAN THEY NEED TO CONVERT THE BUDGET INTO THE NEW RATE FOR ALL TO SEE AHEAD OF THE GLOBAL RESET.

THIS IS ANOTHER MAJOR STEP. THEY ARE TIMING THIS SO THAT ALL OF THESE EVENTS WILL HAPPEN SIMULTANEOUSLY WHEN THE PTB FLIP THIS FINAL SWITCH AND LAUNCH THE RELEASE OF ALL THESE CURRENCIES WITHIN THIS FIRST BASKET OF WHICH THE IQD WILL BE THE STAR OF THE SHOW.

IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN RATHER THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO BE OFFICIALLY BASIL III COMPLIANT WHEN THE COMPTROLLER SIGNS THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS ON TUESDAY FOR THE GCR TO START.

ADD THIS TO THE FACT THAT THE KURDS AND THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT HAVE REACHED A PRELIMINARY AGREEMENT OF OIL AND GAS AND AT THE VERY LEAST IT IS NOW OFFICIALLY SAFE TO SAY THAT THE WE SHOULD ALL NOW 
BE ON HIGH ALERT!

ARMYVET & LGTENNIS FROM THE GET TEAM FORUM, 8 JULY

GET:

ARMYVET] morning family

ARMYVET] what im getting is bank showing tuesday night hope wed show, and international FOREX rate show on 11th 

[ARMYVET] set rate

[ARMYVET] its all tomatos and tomaaatos at this point. its ready. done. basted and prepared. timer about to pop and setting the table for dinner. Lol

[ARMYVET] and sooo much drop the zero smoke now. they are trying to discourage anyone from getting in the game at the last min IMO

[oilerfan] ARMYVET sometimes they mean to just draw the large notes in by raising the rate.

[ARMYVET] i gont think ramadan has anything IMO. just a kawinkadink its time. its all about the imf, what cbi reports and there meetings on the rates twice a month. granted iraq has all the rights now, and IMO we will see that on the 11th IMO

[ARMYVET] ok so this is what im getting from my banker friend. it sort of ties in alot of partial info wh have recieved for weeks. typeing on phone so please excuse the typos

  [ARMYVET] ok so the IMF is the key. we all heard about this 24 hour prior junk before the rv. it applies to the world bank reports that the IMF uses to set rates. those reports are due 24 hours prior to the meetings. on the 27th. iraq was still in 7 on the day of the meeting. IE no adjustment. this last week, CBI announced and reported to the WB that they can support a 2.50 rate. this is now available to the IMF on their meeting on the 11th

[holistichealth] FYI that makes NO SENSE...since their budget is set up for $3.22 plus 20% inflation

 [ARMYVET] this should be a min adjustment made per their last report. now the IMF has the ability to take account other reports to fine tune. IE WTO, agriculture and what not

ARMYVET] they can and prob will sink another tomarrow IMO to support a true rate



[subtle] The Federal Reserve coordinated the final rule with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC), which continue to review this matter.The FDIC has provided notice that it will consider the matter as an interim final rule on July 9, 2013. The OCC expects to review and consider the matter as a final rule by July 9, 2013

[subtle] re basel 3

[lgtennis] gmmmm everyone guys and us ladies 

[lgtennis] 1 sig is very important to us 

 [lgtennis] we are that close everyone that close

NESARA UPDATE, 8 JULY

Nesara BlogSpot Dinar Update: John MacHaffie

RV/PP/REPUBLIC RUMORS

Rumor - Hearing all to start on Monday, July 8th. Everything going out. 

JESTER UPDATE, 8 JULY

7-8-2013  Intel Guru Jester: DID YOU KNOW THEIR [IMF] ORIGINAL MANDATE WAS TO ASSIST IN THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE INTERNATIONAL MONEY SYSTEM AFTER WWII?  THAT IS WHAT THEY STILL DO TODAY... COUNTRIES PUT MONEY INTO THE SYSTEM AND GET SDR'S - SPECIAL DRAWING RIGHTS - AND OTHER COUNTRIES CAN BORROW FROM THE POOL...[we should want to put away our greed in getting this done today over praying that the whole world gets fixed in whatever time frame it takes?]   THAT IS A VERY GOOD POST... EXACTLY.
[concerning timing do they still see it as a prerequisite to pull the trigger on a weekend]  IT SEEMS TO BE THE MOST PROBABLE...I AM NOT AWARE OF A TWO DAY EXTENSION...I STILL HAVE YET TO SEE THAT IN WRITING...THE 10 DAYS...OR THE EXTENSION...WE ARE AWARE THAT EVERYONE ELSE IS ON HIGH ALERT...WAITING TO GET WHAT THEY NEED TO DONE...WE ARE NOT AWARE OF ANYTHING ELSE IN BETWEEN...BUT, WE HAVE BEEN FOOLED BEFORE...THERE MAY BE SOMETHING IN THERE WE DO NOT KNOW ABOUT.

OKIEOILMAN Q & A, 8 JULY

[..OKIEOILMAN] FORGET THE TIER SCENARIO, WE ARE INVOLVED IN A PRIVATE EXCHANGE AND THAT IS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT ANIMAL THAN A R/V .

[CigarDan] ..OKIEOILMAN referring to the WF exchange?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] CIGARDAN--WE (W.F.) HAS A NEGOIATED CONTRACT TO PURCHASE YOUR CURRIENCIES. (THAT IS THE PRIVATE EXCHANGE WE ARE INVOLVED IN) AND A GENERAL R/V IS WHAT IS BEING REFERRED TO AS A STREET RATE THAT THOSE WHO DO NOT UTILIZE THE 800 NUMBER AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WILL RECEIVE--AND THAT WILL BE A MUCH LESSER AMOUNT.

[Jubilee] ..OKIEOILMAN What do you hear regarding the rumor that they may want to purchase the dong at a group rate also?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] JUBILEE--I HAVE HEARD THE SAME

[texan1] ..OKIEOILMAN will it have to rv first, even with or pe

 [..OKIEOILMAN] TEXAN--NO--EVERYTHING WILL GO AT THE SAME TIME--IT WILL BE UP TO US WHETHER WE WANT THE HIGHER RATE OR THE LOWER RATE---THINK ABOUT THAT
[banty] ..OKIEOILMAN Will we, in Canada, have an 800 number to use that will allow us the same rate as WF in the States ... Thanks

 [..OKIEOILMAN] BANTY--CAN'T SAY FOR SURE BUT THE ENTITIES THAT HANDLE THE U.S.A. SITUATION HAS MADE SEVERAL TRIPS TO CANADA INDICATING YOU WILL PROBABLY BE IN THE HIGH RATE GROUP DEPENDANT ON YOUR FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS

[dinarchaser] ..OKIEOILMAN Does the IMF bailout scenario of the Euro nations effect us?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] DINARCHASER--AN INTERESTING QUESTIION--MY ONLY ANSWER IS WE ARE A GLOBAL SOCIETY AND ALL OUR FINANCIAL OBJECTIVES ARE COMPARABLE

 [carguy] ..OKIEOILMAN Good evening and thanks for the intel. I have heard that if we cash in a 25k early to pay off some layaways we will somehow be flagged and ineligible for the hgher WF rate. Do you know anything about this. If it is true would exchanging Dong before the WF meeting have the same affect?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] CARGUY--THAT SCENARIO IS AS TRUE AS THE ADDAGE AS "WHEN PIGS FLY"

 [dilmus123] ..OKIEOILMAN about to get your house fixed?

[..OKIEOILMAN] DILMUS-WORKING ON IT

[dilmus123] ..OKIEOILMAN been praying for you

[..OKIEOILMAN] THNX DILMUS

 [dinarchaser] ..OKIEOILMAN Is China our big time friend in all this?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] DINARCHASER---YOU GET THE CIGAR

 [thesweetguy] ..OKIEOILMAN Can you explain why China is our friend?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] SWEETGUY--WHEN YOU ARE TAKEN TO DINNER AND SOMEONE ELSE PICKS UP THE CHECK--------THEY ARE YOUR FRIEND

 [Slick1] Okie are you the 1 to give us the 800 number?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] SLICK--PROBABLY NOT--BUT VERY RAPIDLY AFTER MY POST DINAR-RECAPS WILL HAVE THE SPECIFIC'S

 [longrider] ..OKIEOILMAN that is a confusing situation with regards to China and the US. Can we trust them? are they a good guy in all this ? what do you know?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] LONGRIDER--THEY HAVE THE MONEY--NUFF SAID

[gwallace] ..OKIEOILMAN We should make the 800 call dispite what our banker says about it not being necessay right?

[..OKIEOILMAN] GWALLACE--THE KEY TO THIS WORKING ON YOUR BEHALF IS YOU UTILIZING THE 800 NUMBER WHICH WILL INDICATE TO THE OPERATOR MAKING YOUR APPOINTMENT THAT YOU QUALIFY FOR THE HIGHER RATE

[ehmjr] ..OKIEOILMAN Thanks for giving up so much of your life to be a tour guide on this ride. Has there been any news about taxes yet?

[..OKIEOILMAN] EHMJR--YES THERE ARE NEWS ABOUT TAXES BUT THIS IS NOT THE VENUE TO DISCUSS IT---THERE WOULD BE LIABILITY ISSUE PRESENT IF I ANSWERED

 [tig2] ..OKIEOILMAN do you know if WF have any associate banks for people outside the US- ie Australia? Thanks

[..OKIEOILMAN] TIG2--UNKNOWN

[operadinar] ..OKIEOILMAN Many of us are unclear about how best to cover reserves and how to deal with VND. Do you think the call to WF can give their details?

[..OKIEOILMAN] OPERADINAR--THAT IS A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT THE BANKERS WON'T BE CONCERNED WITH

 [texan1] ..OKIEOILMAN you told us before that WF will tell you when to post, who will tell WF it's time?

[..OKIEOILMAN] TEXAN--C.L. J.L AND THE U.S.T.

[pygmalyn] ..OKIEOILMAN ... Will we be able to make more than 1 appointment... due to having to wait for reserves?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] DENISEANDERSON--I HAVE A GRANDSON STATIONED WHERE YOU JUST LOGGED IN FROM

[deniseanderson] Okie really

 [..OKIEOILMAN] DENISEANDERSON--PENDLETON--JUST SAW HIM YESTERDAY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2 YEARS--HE IS IN THE USMC.

[dinarchaser] ..OKIEOILMAN Used to live in Carlsbad. No many from Pendelton. Go Marines!!

[..OKIEOILMAN] DINARCHASER--SEMPER PHI MAC

[Jester] ..OKIEOILMAN good to see you friend... just wanted to say hi... we are all rooting for ya big guy... bring it home...

[..OKIEOILMAN] HEY JESTER--YOU OLE DOG--HOW'S TRICK'S?

[Jester] ..OKIEOILMAN i am hanging in there friend... same as you... we know who the big dog is... hahaha

[..OKIEOILMAN] JESTER--THE BIG DOG IS IN D.C. AND I THINK HE IS A PIT BULL WITH AID'S

[Jester] ..OKIEOILMAN hahahaha... you are right about that... lol

[sono] ..OKIEOILMAN Praise Jesus, Father God and The Holy Spirit...how are you? Question...will we only have one shot at an appointment for the high rate? Meaning....I have some dinar on hand...can I make an appointment immeadiately c/e then come back a week or two later to the same bank branch with more and hope to get another appointment and same high rate? God bless you..

[..OKIEOILMAN] SONO--THEN CASH IN --STRIKE THAT--EXCHANGE IN 2 DIFFERENT ENTITY'S NAMES--NO BIGGIE

 [Orchid] ..OKIEOILMAN since the vnd is already tradeable, will appointments be necessary and with the iqd?

[..OKIEOILMAN] ORCHID--ONCE AGAIN FOR CLARIFICATION REGARDING EITHER CURRENCY--MAKE AN APPOINTMENT

 [slydog] ..OKIEOILMAN have you traveled EAST ?

[..OKIEOILMAN] SLYDOG--ARE THERE COW'S IN TEXAS?

[sono] ..OKIEOILMAN Okay...so cash out in my name and have my wife cash out in her name later...great!

 [..OKIEOILMAN] SONO--I SAY THE LIGHT BULB JUST COME ON ABOVE YOUR HEAD--KUDOS PARDNER

[sas] ..OKIEOILMAN We would ALL like to thank you for your selfless perserverance. :heart1:

 [..OKIEOILMAN] SAS--IT IS CALLED MASOCHISM (SP?)

[..OKIEOILMAN] I CAN'T UNDERSAND HOW I KNOW WHAT THE BIG WORDS AND THEIR MEANING AND CAN'T SPELL THEM----TOO MANY NUERONS AT REST I GUESS

 [garfield1] ..OKIEOILMAN sniffing to much oxygen from flying

[..OKIEOILMAN] GARFIELD--YEAH BUT THAT OXYGEN SURE HELPS A HANGOVER

[QueenBee231] .~dinarmama7 Amen to that Sis! spelling is the least of priorities.

[..OKIEOILMAN] GARFIELD--YEAH BUT THAT OXYGEN SURE HELPS A HANGOVER

[Rosie] Okie Sir, any expectations on c/e alue increasing or decreasing within a couple of days after the r? Thank you Sir...blessings

 [..OKIEOILMAN] ROSIE--FLOAT OR NO FLOAT--THAT IS THE QUESTION-----(NOTICE I EVADED THE ANSWER)\

[..OKIEOILMAN] \DID YOU EVER CONSIDER SOMETIMES OKIE MIS-SPELL'S JUST TO LET YOU KNOW HE IS NOT INFALLABLE?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] PERCEPTION IS EVERYTHING

.OKIEOILMAN] WAJENKIN--THE CORRECT SPELLING IS O K I E NOT OKI OR OAKIE

[farmtrader] Will we know where to go for the exchange????????? I'm in Kansas close to KC

 [.sednet1] farmtrader The 800# will advise you. Wells Fargo is the 1st Best Bet for a higher rate. and you know this from questions before!

[..OKIEOILMAN] FARMTRADER AND OTHERS --HERE IS THE PROCEDURE AS I UNDERSTAND IT--WHEN YOU CALL THE 800 NUMBER FOR AN APPOINTMENT YOU WILL BE ASK YOUR ZIP CODE AND YOU WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE CLOSEST BANK.

[batman1] ..OKIEOILMAN should I keep the Bat light on

 [.~dinarmama7] WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR APPOINTMENT YOU WILL BE TOLD WHERE TO GO.

[AnnieMay] ..OKIEOILMAN ... did the Chapter 7 have a time limit on when the C/E had to occur or does it matter?

[..OKIEOILMAN] ANNIEMAY--RUMOR SAID 10 DAYS (REPEAT--RUMOR SAID)

[sk8pastor] ..OKIEOILMAN concerning our appointment, what kind of time frame will we have to make it? :)

[..OKIEOILMAN] PASTOR--UNKNOWN

[Goldenchild] Okie do you have any info about C/E in the United Kingdom at all

[..OKIEOILMAN] GOLDENCHILD—NOPE

..OKIEOILMAN] I KEEP WAITING FOR THE QUESTION OF HOW MANY STARS ARE IN THE SKY OR WHATS THE WEATHER ON THE BACK SIDE OF MARS OR DID I REALLY GET TAKEN UP IN AN UFO TO VENUS AND PLAY WITH THE PRETTY GIRLS---

[brothers4751] ..OKIEOILMAN -any idea how IRS will treat this exchange as far as taxes???

 [..OKIEOILMAN] BROTHERS YES--THAT QUESTION INVOLVES LIABILITY ON ANYONE'S PART THAT MAY ADDRESS THAT----I DON'T WANT ANOTHER LAW-SUIT

..OKIEOILMAN] BROTHERS---THAT IS WHAT TAX ATTORNEYS ARE FOR

 [nicksfinderskeepers] ..OKIEOILMAN are you still going to build the world tallest cross

 [..OKIEOILMAN] NICK-YEP

[georgeaa] ..OKIEOILMAN Do you have the final post made up ? just wonderin?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] GEORGEAA--BEEN THINKING ABOUT THE FINAL POST--I WANT TO KEEP IT SIMPLE FOR SOME'S BENEFIT--IT WILL PROBABLY ENCOMPASS "IT'S HIT--THAT'S IT"

[..OKIEOILMAN] MY FINAL POST WILL BE SOMEWHAT OF A DISAPPOINTMENT TO SOME BECAUSE OF IT'S LACK OF SPECIFIC'S--THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF A 2 FOLD APPROACH--MINE WILL BE A VERY SIMPLISTIC NON-SPECIFIC POST SIMPLY NOTIFIYING EVERYONE IT IS OVER THEN DINARRECAPS WILL CLOSELY FOLLOW WITH THE 800 NUMBER AND ANY OTHER INFORMATION NECESSARY.

Kid] Tell us what we can do to help you. We pray always for you.

[..OKIEOILMAN] KID--THATS THE BIGGEST HELP I CAN RECEIVE FROM YOU OR ANYONE ELSE---I WOULD RATHER HAVE YOUR PRAYERS THAN ALL THE DINAR EVER PRINTED

dinarbeliever] Hi Okie... Thank you for all you do... Are you going to CE into US dollars or what other foreign currency?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] DINARBELIEVER--I BELIEVE IN DIVERSIFICATION FOR FUTURE CONTINGENCY'S OF CURRENTS BEING REDUCED IN VALUE

 [brendad] Okie, should I just ignore the email address for projects until I see your email?

 [..OKIEOILMAN] BRENDAD--E-MAIL ADDRESS IS A MOOT POINT--JUST BE SURE YOU’RE REGISTERED ON DINARRECAPS TO RECEIVE THE INSTRUCTION E-MAIL\

[dinarbeliever] thank you... can you share what you are looking into?? (silver or canadian, etc...) Will you keep a certain percent into US dollar? Thanks

[..OKIEOILMAN] DINARBELIEVER--MY PERSONAL RECOMMENDATIONS MAY NOT FIT YOUR FUTURE PLANS---WE ARE ALL ADULTS HERE AND HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF MAKING OUR OWN DECISSIONS---IF YOUR UNCOMFORTABLE TO DO SO-----CONSULT A FINANCIAL PLANER TO EXPLAIN THE CONSQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS OR PLANS

 [Jonell] ..OKIEOILMAN Can 800# be used by people we gifted?

[.~dinarmama7] Jonell YOU CAN PASS THE 800# BY PHONE OR EMAIL WITH INSTRUCTIONS. DO NOT POST ON ANY SITE PLEASE.

[..OKIEOILMAN] JONELL--YES--SHARE OPENLY AND FREELY THE 800 NUMBER BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES POST PUBLICLY THE NUMBER--THAT IS ENCOMPASSED IN THE AGREEMENT THAT WE ARE INVOLVED IN

[michele] what about Canadians Okie... you gonna let us know too ...

 [..OKIEOILMAN] MICHELE--RECAPS WILL LET YOU KNOW IF YOUR REGISTERED WITH THEM

[..OKIEOILMAN] GONNA BACK OUT FOR AWHILE--HOPE TO BE BACK SOON--WILL POST "THE POST" WHEN AUTHORIZED----BLESSINGS TO ALL-----GONE