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Thursday, June 6, 2013

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 6 JUNE

6-6-2013  Intel Guru TD    All internal agreements between factions taken care of last weekend at National meeting and this weekend's upcoming meeting between central GOI & Kurds a formality.  Maliki is NOT an obstacle, he wants to go out as someone who accomplished progress. He will be retiring after his term is up. For those claiming Iraq is NOT in control of things ---ARE DEAD WRONG !! Of course they have lots of help but they have been given the keys to the Hummer.  Details of exchanging of current notes to lower denoms scheduled for late summer/early fall.  

6-6-2013  Intel Guru TD   Informed by my GOI contact that the June Agenda of stabilizing the IQD is still a priority. The target they are shooting for is indeed $1.00 = 1000 IQD.  Mechanisms of achievement being worked on at the CBI daily now. Goal leading up to Ramadan is slight improvement in purchasing power for citizens. UN announcements of country progress is still scheduled 3rd week of June.   

6-6-2013  Newshound Guru Tlar   If Kuwait is willing to normalize relations with Iraq, then Iraq should be rewarded by this move from VII to VI on the issue of Kuwait.  Iraq has accepted the border demarcation by the UN and Iraq and Kuwait have formed joint funds to pay those people who are to be moved.  This issue at least looks more and more like a non issue finally.

6-6-2013  Newshound Guru Tlar   Article quote:  "the council will transfer some of the issues related to the Chapter VII to Chapter VI of the UN Charter when it meets to discuss the matter next month."  The key word is some.  Some is part of not the whole meaning technically they are still in chapter VII with the potential files dealing with Kuwait that might be moved to VI.  The UN under the current situation with Maliki blatantly violating the UN sanctions against Syria and Iran, will not release Iraq totally from VII until Iraq changes its ways.   

6-6-2013  Newshound Guru Med   WE ALSO HAVE NOW MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH THE VALUE OF THE DINAR.   IT IS FADING RAPIDLY IT IS NOT HOLDING ITS VALUE AND IS DETERIORATING FAST.   THE MAIN REASON...IS...A COUNTRIES CURRENCY IS ONLY AS STRONG AS THE GOVT THAT BACKS IT.   WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR A LEADER TO ARISE WHO HAS SOME VISION AND SINCERELY WANTS TO BRING IRAQ OUT OF BIBLICAL TIMES...  

6-6-2013  Newshound Guru Med   [iraq/kuwait news reported that iraq will move from CH VII to CH VI, but the UN Press Conference says they will move from CH VIII to CH VI...so what's your opinion did the UN make a typo error?]  THE U.S. IS NOW TALKING ABOUT SENDING AN ENTIRE DIVISION TO IRAQ AGAIN AND LEAVING THEM THERE.  WE HAVE NAJAFI TALKING TO THE UN AND TELLING THEM THAT THEY ARE ON THE VERGE OF A VERY BLOODY CIVIL CONFLICT.  NOW KNOWING THAT, CAN YOU SEE THE UNS UNSC  RELEASING THEM AND SAYING THEY ARE NOT A THREAT TO PEACE IN THE ME. 

6-6-2013  Newshound Guru Adam Montana    [What would our/your game plan be for the lower denoms we own now. Will they be replaced by new ones? Or will they have a longer time period to be turned in for a currency exchange?]   The answer is pretty straight forward - ALL denominations will be treated equally.  If they swap the currency for new denominations and recall any of them, it will apply to ALL of them... just like when they recalled the old Saddam notes.   So the simple answer is - don't worry about what denomination you are holding.   If they instate a mandatory "turn in" of the current Iraqi Dinar, it will be across the board and they will replace it with newer notes.

6-6-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    THEY INFORMED ME THAT HCL MAY BE IMPLEMENTED PRIOR TO THE OTHERS. TIME WILL TELL BUT THE FEELING IS AMONG MANY PEOPLE THAT THEY WILL HAVE MALIKI UNDER SOME CONTROL BEFORE THE MONTH OF JUNE ENDS.  TIME WILL TELL THE FACTS. POPPY3 

6-6-2013  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    I GOT ONE CALL LATE LAST NIGHT CONFIRMING WHAT I STATED...ALL THIS TALK ABOUT ERBIL, HCL, 140 IS ALL SMOKE BECAUSE MONDAY TWO WEEKS AGO THEY WHERE SIGNED AND COMPLETE.  REAFFIRMED THAT THE RV CAN HAPPEN ANY TIME REGARDLESS OF HOW MALIKI IS CONTROLLED BUT THEY WILL HAVE HIM LIMITED IN SOME WAY PRIOR TO RELEASE OF THE RV AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THESE OTHER THINGS

MIG CHAT UPDATE, 6 JUNE

Late Wednesday Night

MIG:

[hub] my three contacts, and they are one currency broker in nyc,,,has said it is done,,he sees it,,be patient,,,some one will release it...the second is a harvard finance professor,,and he saids its done ,,they thought it was going monday,,,the third is some high end and i cant give them away,,it is done..and they will know,,,all three do not know why has not happened,,,i cant say any more for them,,,but what they say,,,,,,,,its crazy and i depend on my guys that do this for a living....they know things no one knows,.,,,,so my post is hold on,,,its done,,,,,we will be there soon

[hub] my point is not to belittle anyone,,,do not drop your dobber in the dirt,,,it is coming,,,,it will sneek in and some one will go " hey , look at this.." hehehhehehehe

 hub] there has been nothing more,,i talked to all three today,,,,they are scratchin there head as we speak

 [watercolor] hub Thanks for your update. It's still encouraging.

[hub] watercolor i personally am still very excited.....

[watercolor] hub That's great to hear!

NESARA UPDATE, 6 JUNE

Nesara BlogSpot Dinar Update: John MacHaffie
RV/PP NEWS WELLS FARGO STILL HOLDING UP THE PUBLIC RV.

ALL THEY CARE ABOUT ARE THEIR FAT CAT BANKING BUDDIES!

NOTE THE "PAID GURUS" SUPPORTING WF. THEIR TRUE COLORS ARE SHOWING!

CURRENT EXCHANGE RATES AT WF FOR INVITEES ONLY -- DINAR 11.86, DONG 2.20. THIS IS THE STREET RATE, GROUP RATES ARE HIGHER.

CONFIRMED --- PP (PROSPERITY PROGRAMS), PER TODAY 60% OF P&F LETTERS HAS BEEN DELIVERED.

RUMORED --- CMKX AND OMEGA DELIVERIES STARTING TOMORROW. FREEDOM ALREADY IN PROGRESS.

RUMORED --- GOLD STANDARD WAS ANNOUNCED YESTERDAY IN THE UN SECRETLY. YEA I KNOW!

RUMORED -- NOW HEARING RV LIVE FOR TOMORROW. WE SHALL SEE (AGAIN!). IT IS ALL IN WELLS FARGO HANDS AND THE BALL AGAIN IS IN THERE COURT. 

RUMORED --- JL (OUR REPUBLIC TREASURER) DID A SECRET ANNOUNCEMENT PER THE DINAR AT THE UN YESTERDAY,

 UN TOOK IRAQ OUT OF CHAPTER 7 BUT ALL KEPT SECRET FROM US ------NICE!!!


RUMORED --- IRAQ DEBTS HAVE BEEN PAID IN PREPARATION FOR THE RV.

FRANK26 CC WEDNESDAY NIGHT, 6 JUNE

Frank26 CC Wednesdy Night:  136 Minutes

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Frank26 » June 6th, 2013, Greeting KTFA Family ........... Please enjoy:

Frank26 IQD Conference Call after Investment Night….Wednesday, June 05, 2013

Notes: BulldogFord65


BulldogFord65:  Hello Frank: Thank you to you and Delta for an exemplary CC!!! The family --- and the rest of the web for that matter -- are indebted to you both for this incredible call! We're Keeping the Faith -- Always!! Thank you, brothers!

Delta joined Frank for this call...

Preview of tonight’s call from Frank:
• Delta has been on assignment for a while

• Notice that Frank talked about “packages” and 3 days later the articles came out about “packages”

• Frank just told us about the “National Meeting” on Monday, and today we saw the articles about “National Meeting”

• Why did they wait so long for this meeting? It’s incredible to have 5 of the leaders together, and then today, another meeting with Barzani and Maliki – incredible! WHY NOW????

• Iraq tip-toed right over Chpt 7 and they’re in Chpt 6; it’s all over Iraqiya TV; focus on Chpt 6

• Where’s the PM of Kuwait? There are threats against him so the chpt 7 signing was delayed for security reasons

• There is a date that’s official for the payment of government employees: June 19; about 78% of the workforce of Iraq are paid by the government (GOI employees, pensioners, soldiers, police, etc); the majority of people are about to get paid – why? Is there a basket of currencies revaluing?

• Delta has news on the CBI/IMF exchange rate posting

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Delta took the floor at this point: 

• Looks like the long journey of the IQD is coming to an end

• Delta has been on assignment for about 10 days getting more and more info

• Delta summarized the political situation in Iraq because it’s important: Hakim is the National Coalition leader (religious coalition) and he’s very well respected, liked and popular; there was a lot of tension between Barzani, Maliki, Najafi, the Sunnis and Shias; there was a brilliant plan for the last 3 weeks to televise the people praying in a mosque of each different sect every Friday, and it was televised live (religion is very important and influences the people), after the prayers, Maliki talked, and it was very successful

• Hakim came for the National Meeting with the bloc leaders and there was also a big push from the USA

• USA will never allow Iraq to fall into civil war, will not let the plan fail, too much $$ invested in it

• National Meeting photo with all the political bloc the leaders all holding hands broke the ice, and the now the Council of Ministers will meet this coming Sunday, this is HUGE! These leaders are like mixing water and oil, and to have them together showing unity is HUGE; this is very important for the RV and Iraq in the long run

• Seeing these images gave Delta “goose bumps” seeing these photos is really impacting the citizens

• There is no other country in the world which is receiving the international support that Iraq is receiving; it’s unprecedented, especially a nation that is still under UN sanctions?!?!

• The lower denoms are going to come out soon, the denoms will have the Kurdish language included on it which is also huge; to do this, need to show the world they are united

• Malaki under pressure to go, but he is smart – will only get rid of him by his demise, illness or the next elections are in Feb 2014; M thinks he has another chance

• Mobile phone companies in Iraq – about 2 or 3 big companies, AsiaCell is big; for AsiaCell to get licensed, they had to offer 25% of their stock for public trade (legal requirement); their IPO raised about $1.3 billion; another company, Zen, who has revenue of approx. $4.5 billion with net income around $900 million, it’s approx. 22% owned by Kuwait; the 25% mandated IPO was 55 million shares at 1 IQD per share, so 55 million IQD, or at today’s rate, is less than US$55,000; why would a $4.5billion company bother to come into Iraq to make less than $55,000???? Of course not, unless they know something about the rate of the IQD increasing – at 1:1, it would be US$55million

• Same as with AsiaCell, their IPO shares were penny stocks, $0.02 per share, they will be trading on ISX on Tuesday at 1 IQD per share; this tells us about the rate! This should get us excited!

• Announcement of Chpt 7 to Chpt 6 on Iraqiya TV; we’ve been waiting to see the PM of Kuwait come to sign off Chpt 7; a lot of people do not want to see Iraq to succeed due to jealousy and they threatened the PM of Kuwait with shooting down his plane if he went to Iraq, etc, so they had to come up with another plan – signed letters of agreement and went around chpt 7 and used chpt 6; even though still officially under chpt 7, most economic sanctions lifted and many other freedoms restored

• On June 27 the UN Security Council will meet on formally releasing Iraq from chpt 7; this is really good! Move to chpt 6 is all over Iraqiya TV; official announcement must come from UN

• Next month, Great Britain takes the UN Security Council chair, so they will make the formal announcement

• The only thing that remains is the rate for the IQD

• CBI did not hold any auctions Monday and Tuesday; there was a holiday, Mon – Wed; it is possible that when CBI opens back up on Thursday (8 AM) they could pull the trigger on the rate; it could happen at any day – it’s a “nanosecond by nanosecond basis”!!!

• There was a lot of confusion on the forum about the 1000:1 ; this was actually Dr Shabibi’s plan in the beginning, but then it was changed due to the delays; Delta got confirmation that they will NOT come out at 1000:1, the 3 zeros will just be lifted and the 3 zero notes taken from the street as they are cashed in

• The CBI will never and cannot control the market price of the IQD!! The only way the CBI can influence the market is by increasing the rate

• Sources say in their opinion the rate is to come out in “early June” which is Jun 1 – 14; 15th is mid-June, however, no one knows the date or rate, so if we don’t see it by the end of June, don’t be upset – we’ve waited 10 years, a couple of weeks doesn’t matter

• Look around and see what’s happening, it’s not coincidence; the rate must come out soon; remember, Iraq doesn’t have any money! No one has been paid (reference to the 78% of the population whose income is from the GOI) AND, Iraq owes $11billion to Kuwait; Iraq’s budget is approx. $100billion per month with approx. $70billion per month in just salaries, AND 5% goes to Kuwait – they don’t have enough money to pay everybody; there are private contractors that haven’t been paid in about a year and citizens that haven’t been paid in about 6 months

• Frank asked Delta if he agrees that we will never see S go back to the CBI? Delta agreed, we will not see him go back. Frank’s opinion is that he will go to the World Bank/IMF; for now he is being protected by the USA and being kept in Jordan; Do Not Look for S to come back unless M is removed – likely M will not go before the RV, after the RV, it will be easier to get rid of M

• Frank asked Delta about the National Meeting; Delta said the international support is for Iraq to succeed and be a model in the ME; it really brought excitement to see the leaders holding hands, especially M and Najafi; the importance is the laws that need to be passed – to see the unity signals that we should see the laws get passed quickly (HCL, Erbil, etc); Delta believes that M must stay until the RV after that ??? but he has 6 or 7 months until the next election, maybe he can change and the people will like him and elect him again – Frank thinks M will not change

• Frank’s observation that the family needs to be patient and not keep demanding when will the RV happen, why it hasn’t happened yet, and instead use the time to praise God and get prepared! Relax! This is so close!!! Are you really ready?? Don’t worry about chpt 7 – Franks opinion that the files have been transferred into Chpt 6

• June is an amazing month – promise date to pay the citizens on the 19th, and UN Security Council vote on lifting Chpt 7 on the 27th ; of course this makes the entire month of June the time frame for study

• About 78% of the work force is paid by the GOI from the janitor to the Finance Minister; approx. 80% of the monthly budget goes to pay salaries; the 2013 budget has not been opened yet because they “don’t have the key” yet

• There are the private contractors needing back pay for the last year, the citizens who have 6 months back pay coming, and the oil revenue sharing needs to be paid – to comply with Article 8, they cannot use US$; this means 20-30 trillion IQD is required; the only way to meet the requirements is to raise the rate!!

• Based on the examples of the 2 mobile phone companies and the money owed to contractors and citizens, it gives an idea of the rate – in Delta’s opinion, the lowest it can be is 1:1 IQD to USD; this makes it very easy for the citizens; the CBI has no choice, the rate has to be raised

• Frank said we’re looking for numbers to be posted on the IMF sheet, but they are not being shown – why? Is it because of the IQD reform or possibly impending change in UN Security Council seat? Delta’s opinion is that IQD rate is controlled by the IMF, and all the other currencies in the basket must change at the same time and all of Article 4 must be satisfied; Delta’s opinion is that M doesn’t have control, he doesn’t have the power to control the IQD, even S doesn’t have control -- only the IMF is in control

• Delta said the UST lifted the sanctions recently (1-2 weeks ago) on Iraqi banks; if the UST did not lift restrictions, how could the CBI raise the rate? All evidence points to this coming to an end soon

• Frank said we don’t hear anything and then all these photos and articles came out about the National Meeting – everything hinges on needing a higher rate! Every good result from these meetings all depend on having a higher rate!

• Frank had Delta tell the family the shocking event from today is the announcement on Iraqiya TV that Iraq just began their Fiscal Year (FY) today!! The FY starts when the budget is opened! S said that the LD’s will come out when the budget is open – technically the budget starts when people get paid, but the announcement on Iraqiya TV today that the FY has started – they cannot do this without a rate!!
• Delta questioned what may be happening when M goes to Kurdistan to meet with Barzani on Sunday?? Very exciting!!

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Bluestar came on the call at this point

• Discussion of the basket of 25 currencies, opinion that the IQD RV will be significant; and opinion that the Indonesian Rupiah may go 2 weeks after the IQD; Frank feels it’s a good back up for a back up

• Bluestar asked of all the recent events, what in Delta’s opinion is the most important? Delta replied his opinion is Kuwait signing Letter of Agreement to get Iraq out of chpt 7, and Iraq is unofficially out of chpt 7; Kuwait is happy and due to the investiture of Kuwait in Iraq, they want Iraq to succeed and make money! This also takes down Iran’s currency, and puts Iraq on top

• Bluestar commented on posting from forum member that says everything on Iraqiya TV is a lie; Delta replied yes and no – Iraqiya TV gets their news from GOI, and if the GOI gives disinformation, then it’s reported, but Iraqiya TV not intentionally reporting bad information; we are seeing now that everything on Iraqiya TV is actually playing out now, we’re seeing the truth of what’s being reported in what is happening; the rate is going up, it must, and they are saying that on Iraqiya TV

• Frank recommended for us to go on http://www.unitednn.com while it’s still free, the Iraqi news channels are on unitednn.com

• Frank said he’s considering releasing the photo of the fireworks that signal the rate change so we know what to look for

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