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Saturday, November 30, 2013

BANK STORY FROM STEVEO , 1 DEC

Oh my God this is going down! Let me explain. First of all who the heck am I? I am someone who still believes in the American dream. Everyone has a story to tell especially for the last 5/6 years. Mine is common.

 Once multi-millionaire dumb I owe you a 25k dinar for trying to cuss! that lost it all because he thought it would never end. I also had doubt for the last 3 years until now! 

TONY IS RIGHT! I introduce the Dinar a few months ago to my best friend “Tracy” who not only introduced me to my wife but also married us 13 years go. 

(He is a minister) Anyway he was trying to get in touch with me today but I was occupied with my beautiful wife and little girl “Sophia/Marie” and also my 82 year old father from Sicily Italy “Joe”. 

Anyway after 3 text and 3 voicemail messages I called Tracy. I said what’s up you pain in the butt; He said, “Mike” this is really going to happen. I said; ” what are you talking about?” He said; “Earlier this week I spoke to my good friend and banker from BOA to look into this Dinar thing.

 He called me today and told me that from his inner circle from BOA he learned that the RV was expected before T/G but now it is expected before Sunday and that they are expecting a huge rush of people to cash in .

“ I asked him, “Did your guy listen to Tony’s blog today?” He said Tony who? I know he’s not lying because I never introduced him to TNT. I'm also hearing Monday no later than Tuesday....the PP's are going out tomorrow....!!!! steveo

SCOTTI G INTEL FROM TNT FORUM, 1 DEC

[arizona49] [Cougar13] Hi everyone….listened to Scotti G call..he says Maliki removed..acting Prime Minister now… is there …and awaiting his fate…..Dr Shabibi gave speech yesterday and said it is process of happening..we are waiting…….private meeting Iraq time…and Dr, Shabibi sat with new acting PM…Minister of Energy…..precurser to release…would not let Maliki touch this…removed him….

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 30 NOV

11-30-2013   Newshound Guru tlm724     "oil and gas in all Iraqi territory is the king of all Iraqis as the text of the Constitution.  adding that at the time estimated by the Iraqi government, the failure of the Turkish government  for the signing of an agreement for the export of oil illegally, looking to visit Turkish officials to Baghdad to discuss the matter and place it in the correct legal framework which guarantees the rights of Iraqis."  Turkey did not sign the agreement now this important ...this is a big deal and has everything to do with the HCL+ article 140 of the constitution.   IF Turkey comes to an agreement with Baghdad and Barzani accepts it also then imo we will finally see a resolution on the HCL!

11-30-2013   Newshound Guru Millionday
   “Developing the smart card seemed like mission impossible at first, considering the security situation in the country, its history of international financial sanctions and the fact that credit cards are not in use, so we really see its success as the start of a new chapter very good news to see that the data and electronic system is set up for use and is being used.    

11-30-2013   Newshound Guru tlm724
     Article quote:  "The UN World Food Programme (WFP) has begun to use smart cards to deliver cash assistance in Iraq to participants in its cash-for-assets projects in Baghdad, Diyala and Ninewah."  so we really see its success as the start of a new chapter... this shows us the smart cards are working and the UN is using them!!!

TNDR POST: "HANGING ON", 30 NOV

TnDr:   Hanging on.....could this be what we are looking for?

I re-read/reviewed Post from Mtn goat, UU1102 from 11/25/13 and this portion of that post brought me some peace based on our present timing:

"Mnt.Goat:............5. Now on Monday 11/25  we are told that the IMF may take control again if this does not get activated  by 9 am Tuesday morning 11/26. I don’t understand?  I told my source, - why not just activate it now and get it done? Stalling again?  
They then told me CL will activate it by Tuesday – Wednesday 11/26-11/17 if the UST does not. Really? I wait to hear what excuse we will get on Wednesday. If the IMF does take control we are told it could take up to 48hours to activate.

Why? The rates are done and the activation on only on an admin hold at the banks. The banks have the 800#s. So why 48 hours?

6. This brings us to Thursday thru Sunday window once again. How convenient ! Can you now see the intentional stalling taking place. Is it just me or am I making this up? I had to ask once again what is going on? 

So I have to think only one thing now that my source in IMF telling that this will be held up until Dec 1st is in fact accurate since I see the stalling playing out right in front of our faces.
I do not really care what the UST is telling these intel providers. They are only messengers passing along the stalling until the time is ready. They believe what they are telling but we shall all see as all in good time who is correct and this will be our proof........ "


 Add did this Okie post in. "[..okieoilman] NEGOITATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THE RELEASE OF THE R/V COULD/MAY/SHOULD OCCUR PREVIOUS TO DEC 1 BECAUSE OF CONTRACTS WITH A DEC 1ST DEADLINE."

 Tony mentioned Sunday/Monday activation on his Thanksgiving chat post.....looking for the answer we all want.

 Fingers crossed!

TONY CC SUMMARY, 30 NOV

TNT Tony Conference Call Summary - 29 NOV

 Again, a two hour conference call, including approximately one hour of Q&A, boils down to a few important items of substantive information:

 1. IMF and UST have both verified that everything is done, completed, ready to go.

 2. All parties continue to want to see the RV in time for the economic benefits of increased consumer spending to commence this weekend. This means that the release of the 800 numbers could take place today or later tonight, and the commencement of cash exchanges could commence later today or tomorrow morning, as applicable.

 3. Rates are moving down. This is a result of the failure of the U.S. participants to carry out the RV earlier as had been agreed. When non-U.S. parties previously failed to complete their processes, they were penalized with a higher U.S. exchange rate. Now that the U.S. parties are responsible for delays, the U.S. must be penalized with a lower rate. There are issues relating to “claw backs” to be imposed on some individual who were cashed out at higher rates.

 4. We may see a rate around $30 or even lower for the IQD. However, anything above $3.00 to $4.00 is better than any of us expected when we got into this.


 Tony closed by stating that he is “really upbeat” and is anticipating the RV today or tomorrow.

JCR POST FROM TNT CHAT, 30 NOV

TNT:

[buckwheat] JCR is a mod over on the forum / forum chat. This is what they wrote a little earlier

[buckwheat] Jcr wrote nov 30th @06:31am - 06:50am pst : confirmation on status....800#s / centers manned - 800#s = live rates - want to get off this ride...now! - this has to happen now - we talked last night...waiting confirmations (referring to Tony) - no hype...real stuff - could be today..needs to be by monday - pushing for today - today is very possible - call it as it is! - straight shooter...that's how it should be - still hearing 30ish. Imf wants this now...ust working with mom & pop banks for final release

JCR: Rates  $30, $6, $1,08 and .22

Kansaschick: I will take 30..6..1.08..and .22, exchange my currency and run down the road like my hair is on fire. I live so far in the boonies that no one would see me anyway.

TidalWave: JCR did they call in the WF folks to the call center?
JCR: TIDAL..YES

KMan: That's a good sign.. WF being called in...

Trapdoor:  JCR has been on these boards for a long time. I do not know him, but he has always been straight, polite and truthful. That is good enough for me.

IkoWard: IMO…If it happens at all it will happen tonight, midnight EST. The banks are squeezing every last nickel they can and trying to figure out another way to stall past these contract deadlines. That said, this is still a wonderful blessing and must be held in that light

IrishLaddie: I would guess you will see it by 4EST........that is the beggining of December in IRAQ

JCR: GUYS, I DON'T PRETEND TO BE ANYONE ELSE, JUST STATE THE FACTS...YOU DECIDE, TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT...NO HYPE HERE  BEING AROUND AND MOST OF YOU KNOW IT...HAVE MY CONTACTS AND SHARE WITH MY TNT FAMILY...NO OTHER!

Twyat3:  . JCR - Today??

JCR: W...VERY POSSIBLE...TIMING

Showmethemoney:  JCR - did you get info from Tony?

JCR: SHOW...WE SHARE INFO

nanababoo LJCR Do you know if we are going to hear from Tony today?

JCR: ...YES

EXOGEN UPDATE, 30 NOV

EXOGEN:
 
ALL SOURCES ARE CURRENTLY WAITING FOR AND EXPECTING THE
1-800 NUMBERS TODAY

Friday, November 29, 2013

OKIE UPDATE, 29 NOV

[..okieoilman] RATES ARE NOT QUITE AS HIGH AS THEY WERE BUT THERE STILL FANTASTIC---FAR MORE THAN WE EVER CONTEMPLATED---

 [..okieoilman] IT WILL BE AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY THAT YOU OBTAIN YOUR APPOINTMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND GET TO THE BANKS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THE RATES WILL CONTINUE DROPPING DURING THE 30 DAY PERIOD OF TIME WE HAVE TO EXCHANGE OUR 3 ZERO NOTES.

 [..okieoilman] THE IRAQI'S HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED THEY ONLY HAVE 36 HOURS TO EXCHANGE THEIR 3 ZERO NOTES---THAT ONLY APPLIES TO IN COUNTRY RATE EXCHANGE (IN IRAQ ONLY)

 [..okieoilman] IRAQI RATE IS NOW PREVELANT AT 3.44 AND THAT NUMBER OR CLOSE TO IT WILL WHAT EVENTUALLY BE THE INTERNATIONAL RATE (AND OURS ALSO)--BUT THAT WILL NOT HAPPEN OVERNIGHT THANK GOD

[..okieoilman] I UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE AMPLE TIME FOR US TO GET TO THE BANKS

[..okieoilman] PHONE

EXOGEN UPDATE: DIRECT INTEL 3:49 PM EST, 29 NOV

DIRECT INTEL 3:49 PM EST

PER CONVERSATION, THE EVENT WILL TAKE WITH OR WITHOUT
A BIG 4 TIER I BANK. MAJORITY SHAREHOLDERS OF THE BANK
AND SEVERAL MEMBERS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ARE
DISCUSSING THIS AS THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE LEFT OUT,
BUT PER AOP THERE ARE NO MORE NEGOTIATIONS &
DISCUSSIONS AS ALL OTHER BANKS ARE READY RIGHT NOW.
CRITICAL TIME WINDOW IS AFTER HAWAII BANKS CLOSE TONIGHT.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 29 NOV

11-29-2013   Newshound Guru Stryker   I believe that I am finally starting to understand these latest articles stating that the Central Bank raises currency of 50,000 dinars early next year. I do not believe that the CBI is saying that they are coming out with a 50,000 dinar note but yet they are stating the new smaller notes/coins that they are getting ready to put out will have a value like 50,000 dinars has currently. Could all 25 dinars be worth $50.00 USD? I believe they could be early next year, new currency categories and old (what we hold as an investment).

11-29-2013   Intel Guru Loechin
    The rates will not be $38 and $10 but more like maybe a STARTING rate of $30 and $6.  [When you say rates such as $30 and $6 are STARTING rates, does that mean they will go down from there, or is there a chance for them to go up?]  They will go down.  [do you think we will see it today?]  hopefully, but I don't know.  [post 2 of 2]


11-29-2013   Intel Guru Loechin
   [Are we still looking great great great?]  yes.  I can tell you that everyone is done and they are working the plan.  [from what i have seen so far their plan is pretty much useless so far.] Problems have been fixed and the plan is working like they want it.   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

11-29-2013   Intel Guru TNT Tony 
  I DO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS FOR YOU ALL. THE 3 LTR AGENCIES IN CHARGE DID NOT LIKE MY POST EARLIER TODAY [THURSDAY].   THEY WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THEY INTEND TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE SUNDAY OR MONDAY. THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE RELEASED, BUT THEY SAID THEY WILL GETTHEIR PART DONE.


11-29-2013   Newshound Guru tlm724
    how can they use their currency if it is NOT recognized outside the country?   It needs to [be] international recognized!!  I believe and we had heard them say that want to return the dinar to it's former glory and that is what we seek!

TONY CC RECORDED LINK & NOTES, 29 NOV

REPLAY    805-399-1500    409029#

BlogTalkRadio   RECORDED LINK

Notes by Bailey2 at I4U and Sunny, Ariel144, Karen and Bob, GodsGrace and Dakotaman at TNT...Thanks to you all!!!

[bailey2..] T - what happenned yesterday? surprised how many peeps in chat and on the boards yesterday. So I did a blast. well, went in chat.

T it was thankgiving and ppl wanted to know so I was in chat and said something thewre that I was getting info and that I thought wasnt happening till Sunday or Monday

T...two groups of peeps got upset with me over the weekend and want to apologize...but don't know if i really need to
T...when i said sun/mon...got calls saying why did you say that...we will be done no later than friday/sat.

T...they were adamant about it and insulted that i said that ariel144: t...they are working to get it done by fri/sat

T...everything we were hearing about the UST and they system...

T: there was a whole lot of things involved with that which might seem they were incompetiant...i was frustrated and so were you ariel144: they took offense to that ...especially coming from me

 T everything we been hearing about the UST I said it made them seem incompitent, we took umbrage and they let me know that they are done they do not want to be blamed for it ariel144: they want you to know that they are ready to go

T - Peeps can have best laid out plans and something can still happen.

T...meet and greet...planned thought only 50=60 peeps and now every location has over 1,000 peeps...didn't ever expect it and so didn't plan for that so see how it can happen to them too

T-they both say they are ready now...imf and UST ...want it done today and spending this weekend

T - I got both sides saying "Our part is NOW DONE!"

T- WHEN i get verification I will probably do a BL

T..this issues with the UST were computers...but now both saying they have their part done and ready to go just don't know the time and day

T..only other detail...we heard the rate last week was 36...then 38...banks seeing that

T - whatever problems there were, based on US so US was penalized.

T-this a.m. it is substantially lower..part of the issues here...what ever problems that were based on teh US not doing what they were supposed to do...so we were penalized with a lower rate...and peeps getting paid since april at diff. rates

T-the peeps that were paid at the lower rates...sorry...but the peeps paid out at the higher rate...do they do a claw back and was part of the discussion and what would be the new rate...not drop too low...still in teh 30's

T- the only other detail is last week the rate went from 36 to 38 now it went down because they said the US held up some things, we know ppl been getting paid out since April, question is ppl that got paid higher rates and does the claw back clause take effect so today there is a new rate in the 30's and caused Vnn to drop back to 6 something

T-they redid the numbers yesterday and those were the numbers

T-that makes this a great day to me, they both came out and said its not us, everybody is doin the best they can

T -exchange centers supposed to be in Sunday thats why I said Sunday …T - waiting for others to be contacted this evening.

T..they can put them on alert or call them in and give s us a heads up or they can do the release and put it on hold till they call them in…that is why the imf said they would release it before sunday we just don't know when the UST will release it and the 800#'s

T...so waiting for the verification on that and will blast that out

Q - 30 days be shortened? T - can do what they want. no one's said less than 30 days. your going to be taxed when you cash out whether it's Dec./Jan as this level we pay quarterly taxes.

T...guess they can do whatever they want to...but don't know they have to have it done before 2014...no diff to paying tax because now you will pay qtrly

q...llc/trust? t..that is for you to decide... . T each of you have to decide what legal structure you Ce in. Trust, personal name, LLC. Can't make decisions for you.

q...telling family about how you made the money have them sign an nda sunny: T - gifts after the CE and in cash and no I'm not going to have them sign an NDA. It's just cash then. t...i'm not telling them..i won't be dealing with that

T - CL was in DC on Wed., doing personal vsits and again today. t..she is there today making personal visist

q..how long? T cl in DC personal

T - IMF not step in until after this weekend. they want us to have larger sum, as it helps US /global econonmy they could have taken over some time ago. T they want us to have the larger sum helps the economy

Q do they really want to stimulate economy or drive us crazy. T- more things than just us.: T I think the best way to stimulate the economy is to send ya'll to the phunny pharm, no it is not about us…even is it was justa tech issue...won't say what it was cause it was embarrassing... . not not to just drive you crazy T - they did not do this last time on purpose but sure they would be embarrased if I said the reason for the mess up.

T they are trying to get it done

T - IQN rate continuing to drop at this moment. Nothing to be concerned with. Looks like we could see this tonight or tomorrow morning. . Have no fear

C - repeat what you said. drop too? T - yes I know, not going to say it. T still double digits, yes. . t..i know but won't say...still in double digits..no sense in getting upset with what you can't control

q..exciting time...a couple of calls ago you mentioned that in the 30 days..the usa rate wouldn't go down and now saying it will go down...when our time comes...do we have the risk of it going down again?

t..this rate is going to go down we have a limited time...from 1-15 days it will drop and continue to drop and in 30 days we will have the real rate...that is the plan and has always been the plan

T they are just saying you have 30 days to CE - rate can drop during that time. Not staying at $30 or ?? for 30 days.

q...at least they will give yus a reasonable time for us to get in there so peeps won't panic

t...no i said they are trying to get 4-5 m peeps in the first 5 days

t...this is what i would do to remove as much risk as possible...when the rate comes out if it is really hihg and exchangers have the same rate at the bank...who would you go with ??? q..the exchangers .t- yes they are locking in the rates

T when the rate comes out, really high or whatever and exchangers have exact same rate as banks. My rate is locked in with "exchangers." My rate is locked in for 30 days. I can take 25k note to bank and still have my money.

T - if I'm scared, concerned I got a safety net with exchangers, right there. . q..yes that would help a lot of peeps

T - if rates are competitive, you've got to move. they want to get 5 million peeps thru the system in 5 days if they can.

585 chatting football ….T football stuff

q...have you heard any more about the exchangers having the same rate?

T I havent heard anything more other than they are going to be compeditive …. t... all im' hearing right now ...even right now is they are trying to do it today and the exchangers will be competitive

q..rates below 30? t...if i say yes..what happens ...if i say no what happens

T - I don't know if they want me to put the rate out. I'll let you know before you hang up

(They texted Tony and said don't put out current rate.)

q..now that the imf says they are done and the UST...then the release...the private placement stuff completed this weekend...delay in there?

q..how much being manipulated...the rates going down and stuff happening... q...when the ust releases and the banks have the numbers...then .what is the hold up?

t...peeps have been trading the last couple of days...some private placements and did them at $1.98

T - ppl have been trading the last few days, 1.98 trade, private deals done by one country thru one bank in particular

t...could it have been part of the hold up...wasn't in our explanation...it was the system …. did they take advantage of it...yes .

T until it goes live they can do that …. t..could it delay it till sun/mon ...yes cause as long as the rate is not live..then they can continue trade

t..ust saying quit blaming us we are done and imf is done

t..so its done and even if..the rate didn't ...listen carefully...the rate didn't drop it continues to drop

q..they are still controlling...and let it continue to drop  t...guess we just don't know..it could be

t..since they are both saying they are done then someone is still buying at a lower rate..we will deal with it...don't think they will wait for it to get back down to $3...but it could happen in a couple of hours T things are in motion could happen at any time

t..they are all saying it is fixed and ready to go

t..only thing cuold be someone in the back ground still getting what they want...and they say enough is enough then it will be done by sunday a.m'

C - if everybody complete what your saying is the longer i'ts held more chances of value dropping. T - that is the truth.

q...too bad we can't get a math equation out of this for every hour it drops this much. T I just know its dropping

t..that is not bad cause it could to back up....don't have verification as to why it is dropping but look for more confirmation as to why it is dropping

T - still ready to go and the fact that I did not say what the rate was - only a couple of ways it could be doing that.

C - we've been hearing forever, gov. holding out for higher rates to stimulate the economy. Privileged got CE at higher rate. dropping because of penalty. T – that’s my understanding. t..when someone else messed up you got more...now when you messed up...and didn't do what was agreed to...so you get penalized and someone has to pay for that

C - Okie posted nego. on oil credits between US and China? T - don't think that had anything to do with it not going. t..don't think the neg had anything to do with it ...it was the system itself

T there are deals at 1.98 ariel144: t...which they are doing now and for the last couple of weeks ariel144: t..paying a price cause can't double dip …. They are not being authorized to double dip ariel144: t..things which we will be able to do

T - party is over for them, they've signed their NDA"s. ARe peeps out there agreeing to $1.98 and getting exchange.d These are private deals. ariel144: t..there are those out there agreeing and doing it at $1.98...private deals they are cashing in on

T we will get higher rate, just have to wait.

C - rate seemingly peaked, looks like we are on back side of this now as hedge funds involved. $42 might have been spike.

q...now dropping looks like we are on the back side of this...on wed. funds got involved...thought i would have spiked when they got involved ….t..don't know about any hedge funds getting involved and can't gamble with you money before officially traded would be illegal

T I dont know if they are or arent t...if hedge funds are getting involved...if they are paying 30/25$ ...and nobody to sell it to then how do they make their money?

T hedge funds not authorized to gamble with your money. I don't know anything about that. If hedge funds involved, and paying $30, $35 right now and nobody to sell it too and rate is going down, as of today, how are they making money on that.

T see rate coming out high, falling down, hedge funds jump in and pushing it back up. and they will sell and naking profit as it falls. ariel144: t...but buying it high...no

t..something that doesn't make sense to me

C - your right, the strategy does not make sense. . q..think this is like plan A . C reiterates what tony just said .: q...keep your eyes on the cheese

q...will our 25k note always be a 25k note?

T - here's the thing with that - with the 25K note if it's over then - out of country it's a 25K note but in country it's worthless sunny: C 25k note good for years. T - in country they have told them once the 25k note goes lives they only have 36hours and then it's worthless.

t...another thing want you to be aware of this … t...do i want to be a part of this group or that group...the phoney stuff in reno etc...even over the weekend....now saying tony can't come...and be a part of it...because of who he is

C - At the beginning of the call on Wed - you said WF was the reason it was stopped. Is that still in play? t- yes . C 954 - Wed. you said WF wanted to wait till Mon. Still the same? T -yes they have still not called their peeps in. t- still haven't call their ppl in til sun

T - I didn't say that was the reason but I did say there was a bank that didn't want to do it then. I don't know if that's gonna last or not - it could change in the next 2-3 hours T - could definitely be an advantage for us

T - none of the banks are paying me to direct you anywhere. I'm just giving you the info - it is what it is and there's nothing I can do about about it. c- when you said if they released it, other 3 banks wld go with it

T if it's released will WF stll be a contender to CE. T - I made suggestion during call. don't let them holdup the whole show. C - I personally like WF - I just wanted to know if that was the conversation Karen and Bob: t- that was my suggestion ... let them play catch up... don't hold up the show. just do something to get it done

T - it was an observation - my way of getting it across because I know who is listening to the calls

C - there is a lot of misinformation - I've been following you for over 3 years. Loechin mentioned the hedge fund group - ppl have respect for him...all sorts of info coming out and ppl saying it's done Karen and Bob: c- every friday , they're all done,.... yet here we are again .... frustrating . C - reason peeps frustrated is because of mis-info going out. loechin mentioned hedge funds thing Wed. night. peeps have respected for certain peeps. frustrating every fri. it's all done and we go thru w/e and here we are again. We want to believe, you have contacts, Loechin is a minister. this is where a lot of frustration is.

c- who do we really trust & believe in C - who do we really trust and believe in. I favor you a bit more than a lot of ppl out there . c- this week compared to last week being done ... are we really truly done? C are we relly, truly done? t- can't speak for anybody but me. C - is there any inclination that you think this is going to Monday and then next week or are we really done?

T - I can only speak for myself and I try not to respond to what others are putting out sunny: T - all I can do is peep asks me question and I try to make sense of it and where it fits in based on info I have. Karen and Bob: t- all I can do is hv ppl ask me ? & I try to make sense of it sunny: T - I don't bash others or their info

T - all I can do is ppl ask me a question and I try to make sense out of it based on the info I have t- don't try to do calls & put down other ppl T - don't ask me about what somebody else says. I don't know if it's true or not or where they getit from.

T - I base my calls on info I get from IMF CIA, USt and other agendcy I can't mention.: t- don't ask me what this guys says ..... that guy. I do my calls based on info I get from IMF, UST, other 3 LTR ... overseas CBI

T - I don't put down other ppl because I don't know why they are talking to so don't ask me what this or that guy says - I don't know if it's true or not true. I do my calls based on the info I get from IMF, UST, CIA and 3 letter agency that needs to remain anomyous t- best laid plans of mice & men still comes up w/wrinkles

t- can't predict if it goes to Dec14-15.... melazza: So whats the timeframe for the exchange now...still 30 days? godsgrace: T - I deal with it - no one can predict it and I can't tell you the 14th or 15th of Jan sunny: T - I can't predict it. no one can. I can tell you it doesn't make sense to me. In DC for months they said they did not want it to happen, now saying they want it done right now.

T - DC said for months they didn't want it to happen and now they do sunny: T - battles going on between c ountries/govs. we are on the sidelines. t- know those battles go on in countries/govts. we're on sidelines watching the battle T - battles go on in countries/govs and we're just on the sidelines watching the game - looking for the next play t- living in the time/moment

T - we're getting the best info we can get at the time living in the moment sunny: T - some peeps should turn TV off cause they cannot take the play by play. t- some shld just turn tv off. wait til its over

t- you won't have to watch & get caught up in the game sunny: T - it's going to be over when it is and score will be what it is. I recommend for peeps who run from site - to -site. don't listen to any of them if it doesn't work for you.

 t- don't listen to any of it .... me included.

T - it's going to be over when its over and the score will be what it's going to be - you don't have to watch it - For those who want to go from site to site listening to everyone and what they are saying - just wait until it's over and see where we end up

C - frustrated because we keep hearing it's done, it's done, it's done.

T- - you're asking for the impossible T - you ask that same question all the time and the answer doesn't change - this is the info - the only one that can tell you is the guy that will actually release it and I'm not that guy . t- nobody really knows that info . T - you're asking for something nobody knows T - we're giving you what we got - that's it

t- I'm telling you I'm talking to ppl whoo just walked out of mtg. Karen and Bob: t- can't get closer than that T - I'm talking to ppl who are in the meeting - who just walked out the meeting - you're not getting any closer that what I'm giving you.

C - I'm doing this because you are guaranteing us that this is the last call t- they did say by sat it wld be done T - I'm not guaranteeing you anything.    t- i'm going w/them T - they are saying they are going to have it done - I'm going with them t- ust was upset cause I said they were incompetent

T - UST don't take it personal - sometimes I get frustrated as well t- they were being blamed. what I was hearing did upset me & I was saying "really? t- both saying we're ready to go T - they are saying they fixed it and redid it and had it done wed night - they say they are not holding it up T UST was being blamed for everything. upset them. they fixed it and they had it done Wed. night. Don't say we are holding it up because we are not. Somebody is. Well, #'s are moving so maybe not held up. T - somebody is holding it up t- may not be held up at all

c- when you brought in dc guy, you brought in a higher level of authenticity sunny: C - you brought higher level of authenticity. Your the highest out there.

c- the situation is that someone brought in a point that dealers will not require nda if you call sterling . C - this was a post on your board - I'm not holding you accountable . T - I don't know . T - maybe Sterling has not been told that yet sunny: T - coming out of UST/DC, in places you don't want to be they are saying everyone signs NDA in our out of US to exchange., . t- dc absolutely saying all will sign nda . T - coming out of the UST and DC they are absolutely saying everyone is singing an NDA .: t- that's what I have to go with

t- that's what I have to go with T - In the US - out of the US - you will sign or they won't exchange your currency c- makes sense, but found it very curious C - maybe they won't get till last minute.

C - I'm on board - maybe what you are saying is true and they won't get it until the last minute c- rate may stabilize & even go back up C - reguarding the manipulators - you may be right and it may go back up C - it may stabilize and maybe go up - does that make sense t- makes sense to me that it may drop down to where it's supposed to be then go back up

T - I don't know why the rate has dropped 5 - 6 dollars since Wednesday sunny: T - makes sense to me. I don't know when that will happen. I don't know why the rate has dropped $5-6 since Wed. Not giving you the rate cause they told me not too.

C - another thing - another voice in the dinar community had said the potential hold up was a glitch in the global bank: c- also that CL is not a trigger puller, but as an intermediary

t- let's say she does do this. won't be initiated in the US. rate wld have to drop back down to iraq rate

t- all contracts are written at higher rate. T - you have to understand lets say CL does do it - first of all it won't be initiated in the US - she would have to do it outside the US and then the rate would drop back down to Iraq rate. All the contracts were written at a higher rate

T - all ppl paid out have been paid out at 10X that rate - how do you justify that T - how do you redo all that. how do you spill milk and pick up every oz.? T - Catastrophic –

t- let's just pay penalty, adjust rate, get it going T - we have a minute # of ppl to deal with and let's get this thing going - wouldn't that make more sense? C – absolutely

C-zim ... rate? t- .22 T - still at .22, Rupiah, $1.08 t - those 2 tagged together. t- regardless of what iqd/vnd do

c- relative to oil credit situation. those deals inter countries... that's fixed. C - oil credit situation - those deals for inter countries have already been set at a given rate for oil credits so that's fixed.

c- one cookie jar (ours) full of cookies. if less cookies, either the same hand is in the cookie jar or another???? C - there is one cookie jar that's full of cookies and the rates have been high all this time - Whose hand is in the cookie jar: t- no new players

t- every time new card goes down, there's a change  that's where the negotiation goes back up: T - no new players - everytime a new card is laid on the table then the game is changed, the reward is changed. Mistakes have to be compensated somewhere

T - penalities have to be paid - they don't want money - they care about oil credits T - 1 country doesn't care about money, only want oil credits t- want either more oil credits or more dinar

T - there are only 2 ways - renegotiate the contract or let us get more dinar from your citizens T like lady said, give me $2 today and I'm done.

t- they feel citizens are willing cause we don't know what the rate really is. been so long in coming out. t -TPB let them negotiate while they delays is going on.

T - some ppl understand that this happens at this level of government but most ppl don't.

[bailey2..] Vegas Talk

c- what if they wld do it manually q..do such a thing as can they get this done so we can change one note? t...no not till the rv goes live

c- since CL stepped in, is she able to force it , even for sovereign country? t- they have it in iraq godsgrace: C - is CL able to force the RV for a sovereign country: t...yes...they already have a live rate in iraq...i've already explained why she hasn't done it

t...she hasn't forced it for the reasons i said earlier...those are the reasons she hasn't done it ..i already gave you all that already T - she hasn't forced it because of the ppl who have already done it - the rates, etc.

t...it is a good time to bring that up to pay it forward C - remind ppl to pay it forward

q...the imf and ust are they allowed to participate in the exchange?: t...no they are not

[bailey2..] just chit chatting again

c- hoping bank down the block exchanges. haven't spoken to anybody about this. not worried about nda - I don't know why ppl are upset about the nda : t..don't know either why they are upset about signing the nda once you sign the rv is over and you don't need to talk about it t- don't understand the worry either. sign & get money. don't sign & don't get money

c- if it doesn't go by the day, if we hv to go another day or two .... when it goes I'm going straight to bank T - the only thing we need to be concerned with is it is going to happen

q...about oil crdits and the rates being up and down...jsut open door for neg. come back again

t..every time someone doesn't do what was agreed upon then it opens the door for more neg. C - with all the things we brought out about oil credits and things - isn't that opening the door for negotiations to come back up again. q..we didn't cause it not to happen …t..no we did cause it..

T - we can only negotiate when someone else doesn't do what they were supposed to do. t..if we got to neg. we would be at $50

C - I didn't do anything

T - oh you mean me and you? We don't get to negotiate

T - I just tell you the truth - sometimes - maybe I give out too much info and everybody doesn't get to understand it but I think that's how you grow …t..so when you are watching the new...they are talking you can see right thru all that

t...when you know how it was done and what went into those decisions and it was a learning process for all ovf us...i know they listen on my calls …. t- I can tell you they listen in to my calls …T - when you are sitting down looking at 60 minutes or MSNBC you can literally look right through what they are saying and know what's really happening

t- know it for a fact . FBI, CIA, etc has done background on me …. t- don't have any reason to be ashamed of who I am

t..know for a fact that they do...fbi cia homeland...etc have done a back ground check on me so no reason to be ashamed and know how some of these other intel peeps are talking to T - FBI, CIA, Homeland - everyone has done a background check on me - they know who I am and I have no reason to be ashamed of who I am. They know who some of these other intel ppl are taking to

they are aware of what is going on and what other sites are saying and if wastn't giving you the right info they would have shut us down a long time ago

t- this is how life is, they even know who you are

t...i just give it the way it is what they are telling me from diff agencies. t- I'm giving you what they're telling & how I'm putting it together

T - we are doing the right thing. I'm giving you what I'm being told and we are getting the big picture and what makes sense

C - if the IMF, UST - if they released it does the banks have any lead or lag time? Do they have to do it instantly or do they have 24 - 48 hours to implement T- good Question,  some banks or at least 1 doesn't want it over this wknd t..one bank doesn't want to do it this weekend...meetings on it wed. eve. but didn't get the outcome...still haven't put their staff on notice

t- we know the steps, the procedure T - I don't know who gets to make that final decision - there were some final meetings on Wednesday evening and we haven't gotten any info on that.

T - we know they haven't called any of their ppl in. t..don't know if it really matters..go and do the release and then get their peeps in there

T - could they just do the release and then tell them? They could ..and leave it up to that banks...does this one bank have the power to hold it up

T-waiting for the answer to that still T - or do they want that very moment for all of them to go and this one has the power to hold them up q..does that one bank continue to hold out could the others go: t...don't know: t- will hv to make a call after this call T - I don't know - that was what we were supposed to find out

t..nothing more i can say about that just that things are happening and still in motion ...ust and imf ready and now still on a timing thing again but hey want it before Sunday

t - enjoy the rest of your day - hope everyone enjoyed your Thanksgiving

[bailey2..] THE END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OKIEOILMAN POST, 29 NOV

[..okieoilman] NEGOITATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THE RELEASE OF THE R/V COULD/MAY/SHOULD OCCUR PREVIOUS TO DEC 1 BECAUSE OF CONTRACTS WITH A DEC 1ST DEADLINE. THE RATES ARE FLUXUATING AND BEING LOWERED A BIT (SMALL AMOUNT) BECAUSE OF DELAY'S BEING LAID AT THE FEET OF THE USA. WE ARE AWAITING THE RELEASE OF THE 800 NUMBERS AT ANY TIME. TIMING IS TO BE DETERMINED BY THE BANKS INVOLVED.

LOECHIN CHAT MORNING, 29 NOV

Pacific Time...

6:31 AM PT Loechin chat.. Part 1 

(ClassicRockChick] Morning Loechin. Are we still looking great great great? 
(loechin] ClassicRockChick yes ..
(loechin] donk I can tell you that everyone is done and they are working the plan. The rates will not be $38 and $10 but more like maybe a STARTING rate of $30 and $6 ..

(maddendomination] loechin from what i have seen so far their plan is pretty much useless so far
(loechin] Problems have been fixed and the plan is working like they want it ..

(43tennis] loechin - Do you think we will see the RV today?
(loechin] 43tennis 800's maybe ..
(loechin] Guys I can't say much more except they are and have been working their plan ..

(utahgirl] loechin lol so you are saying they do have a plan then lol
(loechin] utahgirl yep ..

(wanda270] loechin does their plan seem to include us reg. peeps and *800#'s soon (today maybe).... Thankyou... :)
(loechin] wanda270 soon ..

(rosheen1] loechin Happy Thanksgiving friend. I hope it was great! When you say rates such as $30 and $6 are STARTING rates, does that mean they will go down from there, or is there a chance for them to go up? Thanks so much!
(loechin] rosheen1 They will go down ..

(Texaslove] Loechin... So this has been plan all along to get rate back and 30 and decrease as we start making appts? Thank you
(loechin] Texaslove Not what I said lol

7:01 AM PT Loechin chat Part 2 


(rosheen1] loechin Happy Thanksgiving friend. I hope it was great! When you say rates such as $30 and $6 are STARTING rates, does that mean they will go down from there, or is there a chance for them to go up? Thanks so much!
(loechin] rosheen1 They will go down ..

(Texaslove] Loechin... So this has been plan all along to get rate back and 30 and decrease as we start making appts? Thank you
(loechin] Texaslove Not what I said lol ..

(hopeinwyo] loechin Someone has told me that the lowest people on the list (us) will never see the banks. Please tell us that could not be true legally, if for no other reason. I know someone who, based on that rumor has sent most IQN to a group in CA for a large whale cash out. No idea of rate, but I'm betting it is very small.
(redhead1] hopeinwyo - I know that group - they are offering $6.40 and the person in charge is reselling the dinar so your friend will probably never see his money or dinar again - they are not whales - they are scammers
(loechin] hopeinwyo lol Stop listening and your friend most likely got screwed ..

(rasher4736] loechin (hi) do you think we will see it today?
(loechin] rasher4736 hopefully but I don't know ..
(gnosis] Loechin , blessings. Do you know what the delay was from your Thursday morning possibility?
(loechin] gnosis No delay a plan ..

(tidalwave] Loechin so this is a planned release, not a delay and its on schedule?
(loechin] tidalwave I believe so ..

(skidaddy] loechin would the plan have anything to do with the new banking laws Iraq is supposed to implement on Sunday?
(loechin] skidaddy No ..

(gnosis] Loechin can you say any more specifics about the plan and where they are at with it?
(loechin] gnosis The End

Thursday, November 28, 2013

TONY UPDATE, 28 NOV

I DO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS FOR YOU ALL. THE 3 LTR AGENCIES IN CHARGE DID NOT LIKE MY POST EARLIER TODAY.  THEY WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THEY INTEND TO HAVE IT DONE BEFORE SUNDAY OR MONDAY. THEY DON'T KNOW WHEN IT WILL BE RELEASED, BUT THEY SAID THEY WILL GET THEIR PART DONE.  HAVE A GOOD NIGHT GUYS. I WILL SEE YOU ON THE CALL TOMORROW. IF WE HAVE ONE.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 28 NOV

11-28-2013   Intel Guru Bluwolf   About the rates well that will be and still is in double digits no problem there and nothing happened or was changed or imposed by the IMF ( simply that is not there job period ).  Your rv is near and you will be surprised...please be ready for your blessings.

11-28-2013   Newshound Guru Millionday
   the imf and cbi are working together to move to the monetary reality which means the actual value...the goi and cbi and the imf and the world bank and the bis and the wto and the region and the UN are all working together as one to move to a market economy with reality monetary policy and rate...the trade bank being involved means the US of A...so we have a huge group...all working together.

BLUWOLF UPDATE, 28 NOV

NDA'$ ? WHATEVER

Nda = 28 million of 312 million have dinar State side,,, the rest do not know about it, your UST gave a mandate to banks to say it was a scam so not to spread the word out, in 2009 NBC and Bloomberg spoke about the dinar at the International Economic Convention for Iraq in Washington and their Maliki said that he would not revalue his currency and Obama told him yes you will and you must.

So now those banks that all alone spreaded the LIES of this being a scam are right down scared and those who encourage or imposed the LIE ( your UST, government under Bush ) are scared also of uproar and violence in the streets if it was to come out through your media, which all are also controlled by your guess what or who your government.

So that is why you will sign the nda'$ for this reason only and for nothing else.

About the rates well that will be and still is in double digits no problem there and nothing happened or was changed or imposed by the IMF ( simply that is not there job period ). You guys know that I am not a rate or date guy but this is the new gossip by supposedly the guys in the know there take is the following; DC boys- are nervous and excited saying Friday, Reno- they say that they are on alert and flying as we speak, Banks- cc personnel are all ready and all banks will exchange under the new golden standard ruling.
The 3.44 fiasco its a darn place holder so stop the blabbing and just leave it there, POTUS is not permitting it so enough with this conspiracy theory for it is not truthful or amusing.

As to the validity of these currencies 198+4 ever releasing internationally yes they will you can bet they will and it will be when all information goes silent, I honestly hope that finally this last part sinks in to a few.

But now the most important message of all, I want to wish you all the most wonderful of all Thanksgivings, please take time off with your family and have a tremendous and beautiful time, give thanks to the Lord for the blessings of your family's, your health and for life itself.

Your rv is near and you will be surprised. May you be blessed it is now 5:19 am eastern (Santiago) time 11-28-13 and please be ready for your blessings for no matter what these men say, no matter how bad they want you to think this rv'$ outcome is going to be in both its time, its value or the efforts (bank nda'$ etc), thing is no matter what God will overcome and give you what He the Almighty has thought about giving you, that won't change because some fools are saying it, don't trust them trust and maintain your reverence and your faith in Jehova for all the power and might is in Him not in those whos intentions fully are to deceive and create a situation where there is none.

Be blessed now, careful on your Journeys may they be just Happy today. Just smile today and repeat after me," Father in Heaven, thank you for all your blessings bestowed upon me, I believe in you I adore thy my Lord and my faith in my believings are assuring me that everything is going to be ALL RIGHT, thank you for listening my Lord and thank you for loving me and taking care of me and my love ones, I owe You one and once all is settle it shall be Paid Forward in full."

Amen
Bluwolf

MESSAGE FROM TONY, 28 NOV

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!!!!!!! I would like to take this time to thank each and everyone of you for being a member of TNT. The last update that I received is saying that they are continuing to finalize the release. 

They will be back to work tomorrow and if at all possible they hope to release it then.

I am not looking for the release until Sunday night or Monday morning. Plese take this time to be with and enjoy your families. Today will soon be over and then we can get back to the business of the RV. I will be doing a call at the regularly scheduled time tomorrow. TNTDinar Tony

LOECHIN EVENIN CALL POST, 28 NOV

Loechin: Earlier today got call.....wall street and hedge funds have gotten into buying the IQN..incredible....we are there...so much involved cannot explain it all...want to go into great detail..wants to tell you that you are moments away....there is a plan that came to fruition tonight...literally moments away...from things that is going to happen for you..History in the making..it has already happened..numbers were overwhelming from exchanges taking place...
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Loechin's Wed.Night CC  playback number 559-726-1399 616571#

BuckWheat:  Loechin's call tonight - 50 minute mp3 - http://kiwi6.com/file/s5cxzn1a0v
[Lake Lady] Loechin: Earlier today got a call - some things came to light and PIF verified them - Hedge Funds in play now- we are there guys, so much I want to say in detail but cannot....we are litterally moments away and I mean litterally. LOECHIN

[trigger] Wall Street and the Hedge Funds are now getting involved in the IQN as of the last 24 HRS! This should tell you where we are at right about now THAT IS HUGE HUGE HUGE STUFF!
[fmc1] Loechin: Earlier today got call.....wall street and hedge funds have gotten into buying the IQN..incredible....we are there...so much involved cannot explain it all...want to go into great detail..wants to tell you that you are moments away....there is a plan that came to fruition tonight...literally moments away...from things that is going to happen for you..History in the making..it has already happened..numbers were overwhelming from exchanges taking place...

[Lake Lady] LOECHIN THe word is out, be looking forward and don't be surprised if you wake up to some crazy incredible blessing. Happy Thanksgiving.

 [Equitykicker] On Loechin's call he said, look for the 800 # anytime tonight.

 [Equitykicker] Loechin said all is good news! Treasury got the problem fixed.

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JetDriver2: Loechin Live Evening Conference Call - 11/27 - Brief Summary

Loechin held a special conference call tonight . After some technical problems he got started about 7:00 PM PT.

 He made a short presentation followed by a Q&A session.

 Loechin: 

We are at the end of a long road. Some incredible things are taking place as we speak. I don’t have a date or a rate, but I know that the end of this process is imminent.

Many people have been working behind the scenes to make this happen. I am over-the-top excited. There are no road blocks to completing the RV. Information that has been coming in as late as this evening is very positive and favorable.

All the banks want our business. They are going to be extremely aggressive in their efforts to get your business post-RV.

A call came in earlier today, some things came to light, all verified by spguru. Hedge funds are getting involved. Wall Street does not get involved in something until it’s ready.

We are there. You are in a great, great, great position. We are literally moments away from some incredible things that are going to happen.

This is history in the making – so much I want to say in detail but I can’t.

Others got in ahead of us. They saved us for last. They saved the best for last.

There is a plan that came to fruition tonight. I do believe that all issues were resolved. We are in a great spot right now.

We are the people that will pay it forward. We are the people who will be taking care of the widows and orphans and the wounded warriors.

This thing is coming out of the chute.

Don’t be surprised if you wake up to some incredible news tomorrow.

Wednesday, November 27, 2013

TONY CC CALL NOTES, PART 1 & 2, 27 NOV

Part1:
WEDNESDAY NOV. 27 CC NOTES

GOOD MORNING TNT…DC IS ON THE CALL TODAY

DEF. A CALL I NEVER EXPECTED TO HAVE..NEVER EVER

EXPECTED IT TO BE OVER

YESTERDAY WAS A CRAZY DAY W/ THE INFO WE REC'D, THE PH CALLS WE REC'D

THE FACT THAT IT WAS PUSHED ALONG AS IT SHOULD BEAND EXPECTED IT THE NIGHT BEFORE

EVERYONE SAYING IT WAS BEING PROCESSED
YOU GOT INFO YESTERDAY COMING OUT OF EVERYWHERE AND LAUGHED MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE

TELL YOU THIS…THE MODS CALLING AND TELLING ME CAUSE THIS GUY SAID THIS AND THAT

AND I KEPT SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T PUT YOUR SELF THRU THAT

THIS CHANGES EVERY HOUR OR 2 HOURS AND DIFF. INFO FROM A DIFF. SOURCE AND PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER TO SEE WHATS GOING ON

EVERYONE IS GETTING A LITTLE OF IT AND IT GOES CRAZY

WHEN THEY THROW PIECES OUT THERE…WHATS TRUE AND NOT TRUE

I HEARD THAT SOMEONE INTENTIONALLY MADE UP STUFF TO SEE HOW MANY GURU'S WOULD BELIEVE IT AND RIGHT WRONG OR INDIFFERENT BUT  IT AFFECTED EVERYONE ELSE THAT BELIEVE EVERYTHINGAND I TRY TO BE CONSISTENT HERE

WHATS HAPPENING AT THIS POINT IN TIME AND EVERYONE KNOWS BECAUSE WE SAID IT ENOUGH TIMES..THE RV IN IRAQ HAPPENED 2 WEEKS AGO

THE MONEY IS ON THE CARDS AND THEY USE THEM

AND WE KNOW PPL IN EVERY POSITION vUSING THE CARDS TODAY

THE RATES HAVE CHANGED

A ? LAST  TIME WAS WHAT ABOUT THE 3,87

WE KNOW THE RATE REACHED

BUT THE CARDS DIDN'T CHANGE UNTIL THE FIRST OF DEC.

NOW ITS 4.22 OR THE 4 DOLLAR RANGE

THEY GOT PENALIZED DUE TO MALIKI AND THATS WHY THEY CAME OUT W/ THE LOWER RATE

AND NOW WE ARE HEARING THAT IT ALL SHOULD BE OVER W/ BY THE 1ST OF DEC.

W/ THE NEW RATE ON THE CARDS

THE LD'S ARE OUT AND THEY'RE USING THEM

TELL YOU THIS..PAM SAID NOT TO

HOPEFULLY THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN..PPL WILL LISTEN AND HELP OTHERS ON THE BOARDS

PPL SAY TONY SAID….WHICH I DID NOT SAY…

SO LISTEN 2 OR 3 TIMES, BEFORE YOU SAY TONY SAID

THEY WERE INFORMED LAST THURS., THAT ONCE IT WENT PUBLIC, ONCE THEY WERE TOLD IT STARTS

THEY WOULD HAVE 72 HOURS WITH THEIR 3 ZERO NOTES AND THEN THEY'D BE NO GOOD

NOT A DUAL THING…SIMPLY NO GOOD

THEY ALREADY TOLD THEM THAT AND PUT IT IN THE MOSQUE AND TOLD THEM, IN THE COMING DAYS AND EXPECTED IT TO START ON SATURDAY

AND HERE WE ARE ON WED….SO THEY KNOW IT, AND AREN'T FREAKING OUT

IT APPLIES TO THEM…NOTHING TO DO W/ US…THEY HAVE 72 HOURS

SO IF WE KNOW THAT ALREADY THEY ARE GEARED UP

THEIR RATE IS GOING TO CHANGE ON THE FIRST…SCHEDULED FOR THE FIRST

DON'T KNOW WHATS REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN BUT WE CAN BE PRETTY CONFIDENT W/ THE DATE

 WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEKEND AND WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT WE'LL GET IN DEPTH

LIKE THE IRAQ SITUATION

DIFF. RATES ON DIFF. CARDS

WELL OVER HERE THEY GOT PAID AT DIFF. RATES

AS FAR BACK AS APRIL AND MAY AND SOME OVER …..

THE LAST 6 WEEKS…PRIVILEGED PPL AND THEY GOT PAID AT DIFF. RATES

SO HOW DO WE ACTIVATE THIS AND EVERYONE BE MADE WHOLE…BE RIGHT

SO THATS BEEN TRYING TO BE CLEANED UP

THATS NOT WHATS HOLDING IT UP…ITS PART OF IT

WHEN THE SYSTEM WENT…THE RATE WAS CHANGED IN THE SYSTEM

THIS WAS ON SUNDAY,- THAT THE PROCESS WAS STOPPED

AND YOU DIDN'T WANT ME TO TELL YOU THAT

IT WASN'T LONG WHEN IT WAS RESTARTED

AND RIGHT WHERE IT WAS STOPPED AT

AND THATS WHY SOME WERE SAYING THE RATE WAS 3.44 …NOT THIRTY SOMETHING

AND IT HAD TO BE RE-IN PUT AND THEY HAD TO DECIDE

BUT DC MIGHT GO IN DEPTH

AND THEN DECIDE WHAT RATE…DOES THE US GET PENALIZED

YESTERDAY WAS A WEEK

THEY WERE THE ONES DRAGGING AND MESSING IT UP

DON'T GET MAD AT ME….THEY'VE BEEN INCOMPETENT

THATS THE WORD THAT WAS USED AND DIDN'T WANT TO BE COMPARED TO OBAMA CARE

BUT THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED, AND WAS IT ON PURPOSE OR NOT

CAN THEY REALLY BE THIS INCOMPETENT?

THATS IN EVERYONES MIND

BUT HERE WE ARE TODAY

YESTERDAY CL WAS IN DC…VISITED DIFF. PPL, THE GOAL TO GET IT DONE

ITS NOT DONE…THEY'RE STILL TRYING

OUR PRESIDENT GOT INVOLVED TODAY….EVERYONE WANTS IT DONE TODAY SO YOU HAVE MONEY FOR THE WEEKEND AND BOOST THE ECONOMY….THEY ABSOLUTELY WANT IT DONE TODAY

I DID GET INFO FROM BANK PERSONNEL WHO SAID IF ITS NOT DONE BY LAST NITE OR TOMORROW MORN.WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT TILL THE 1ST

EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T LIKE IT…WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'D SAY THAT

WHO WANTS ALL THE TRANSACTIONS THAT ARE GOING ON…WHO WANTS TO START THAT ON FRIDAY

ITS A BANKERS NIGHTMARE

BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE BANK THAT IS COMPLAINING….ONE BANK SAYING NO

WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT AT ALL IF ITS NOT DONE BY TODAY BECAUSE ITS TOO MUCH PRESSURE

AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT BANK

IS IT STILL GOING….TIME FRAME

YES THIS EVE.

MOST GOV. EMPLOYEES GOING HOME AT NOON…HALF DAYS

UST PERSONELL ARE NOT….THEY HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTED TO STAY TILL ITS DONE

THEY HAVE A TIME FOR TODAY…..NOT TELLING YOU

ONE MIN. AFTER THAT AND YOU'LL BE FREAKING OUT

SOME WOULD STILL GO TO THE BANK TODAY/NIGHT IF WE CAN GET IT STARTED TODAY

SOME BANKS SAID MONDAY IF NOT TODAY….AND DISCUSSING IT IN DC NOW

THERE IS ONE BANK THAT DOESN'T WANT TO IF ITS NOT BEING DONE TODAY

AND ITS BEING DISCUSSED AT THIS MOMENT

 WANT TO THROW SOMETHING IN NO

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WF BANK

AND I UNDERSTAND THE STRESS AND STRAIN AND UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF VIEW

THEY HAPPEN TO THE BANK

OFF ON A TANGENT FOR A MIN.

WF BANK - THINK ITS A GREAT BANK…I HAVE MY MONEY THERE AND INTEND TO CASH OUT THERE

AND AT CHASE, CITI AND BOFA

I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST ANY BANKS….NONE ARE PAYING ME TO GO TO THEIR BANKS

(Edited) 

WF IS THE BANK THAT DOESN'T WANT TO DO IT AND RIGHTFULLY IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A WEEK AGO, AND IT SHOULDN'T HAVE COME TO THIS, BUT BIZ. IS BIZ. AND WE WANT OUR MONEY NOW

THE DISCUSSION IS GONG ON THIS MOMENT

CAN'T GET HIGHER THAN THE PRESIDENT

AND THE PROBLEM WAS THE RATES

IF WE TAKE A LOWER RATE

BUT WHAT TO DO W/ THE PPL THAT GOT MONEY THESE LAST 6 WEEKS

THEY WANT IT GO LIVETHIS EVE, AND IF IT DOESN'T THERE IS A PLAN FOR IT TO GO LIVE ON FRIDAY

NOT MONDAY LIKE THE BANK WANTS TO…..BUT FRIDAY

SO PPL HAVE MONEY TO SPEND

HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE IT THIS WEEKEND

 DC?

 DC- YOU NAILED IT.

 T- WITH THAT - I'LL GO TO Q & A

SOMEONE PUT SOMTHING IN THE FORUM

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PART 2 WED. NOV. 27 CC NOTES 

( TONY IS READING )

? NOT TO GIVE OUT IN THE 2ND, 3,RD OR 4TH BASKET, YOU KEPT YOUR WORD TO THEM, BU THEY HAVEN'T KEPT THEIR WORD TO YOU?

T- the situation has changed, its not being able to do what they were supposed to do, the UST was fixinga broken situation w/out telling anyone that it was broken….

DC- SO WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING , THEY WERE READY TO GO ON SUNDAY AND FOLLOW A PROCEDURE TO GET IT DONE, AND THEY DID NOT GET IT DONE AT ALL, AND THEY TRIED TO FIX IT THEMSELVES, AND MESSED IT UP WORSE AND THEY SAID DON'T WORRY ITS FINE, AND THE IMF SAID, THEY'LL TAKE OVER ON TUES. AND THEY WENT TO DO THAT ON TUES, AND THEN SOMEONE SAID OOPS AND I'M OVERSIMPLIFYING, AND THE IMF SAID WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU AND THEY SAID COME VISIT AND THEY SHOWED THAT IT WAS ACCURATE AND WE MESSED UP AND CAN YOU HELP US FIX IT AND THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF FIXING IT NOW

T- THEY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH AS THEY KNOW IT, AND BRIEFED, SOMEONE WAS EMBARRASSED TO DO IT, OR GET FIRED, OR TRANSFERRED, WHICH HAPPENED YESTERDAY, THEY LOST THEIR JOBS - SHOULD HAVE TOLD FROM THE FIRST.

?

 EXCHANGE QUESTIONS

 Tony, It sounds like the rate may come out high, then drop really fast to $3.44 - so there would be no “claw-back” for the privileged ones who have already exchanged, and the rest of us get the Iraq rate? Your comment please?

 THAT COULD HAPPEN, NOT SURE WHAT FAST IS, NOT MINUTES, IT COULD BE A MATTER OF DAYS, NOT GEARED FROM THE THIRTY'S TO THE DOLLARS, DON'T KNOW, DON'T HUNT ME DOWN, THERE IS A WAY FOR IT TO DROP THAT FAST, BUT I DON'T SEE IT

IF FOR ANY REASON THAT DOES HAPPEN

WRITE THIS DOWN

WON'T BE ABLE TO SAY IT AFTER AND IT DROPS TO 3, 4 AFTER 72 HOURS

WHAT YOU WILL SEE AFTER THAT THE HEDGE FUNDS WILL GET IN

AND THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND FULLY UNDERSTAND WHO MOVED MY CHEESE, TRAP AND CHEESE FACTORY

AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW - HELP THEM

THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT, THERE IS NO OTHER WAY IN THE WORLD, AND THEN IT WILL GO INTO THE KUWAIT SCENARIO

NOT BEING SPECIFIC, BUT YOU SHOULD KNOW, AND KNOW WHAT TO DO THE FIRST TIME

 Can you list Tier 2 banks involved with this?

I’m hoping to discover citizens’ bank. All the banks listed as top Tier #1 banks are not in my town…. I don’t want to travel on this just quick slam bam exchange.

FYI,  I'm in snow belt and we are pounded in bad weather

CAN'T LIST THEM OR THE 800#S, DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THEY ARE.

 Do you believe that this will be delayed until Friday so that they can have a Sat-Sunday to initiate the process of currency exchange?

 TALKED ABOUT IT, THEY DON'T WANT IT TO BE, EVERYONE IN DC IS HAVING MEETINGS LIKE CRAZY, MR. DC WANT TO GIVE A TIME FRAME

DC:  DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT

 RATE QUESTIONS

 Ask Tony if his contact could clarify cash out rates for Canadians who were indeed US allies in the Iraq War.

 DC:   BOTTOM LINE, NOT IN THE BANKING SYSTEM MYSELF AND WAIT AND SEE WHEN THE PROCEDURES GO OUT, BUT NOW, YOU WOULD CASH OUT INTO US DOLLARS AND THEN GO TO CANADIAN

T- THAT MEANS THEY AND THEIR MONEY HAVE TO GET TO THE US

DC- CORRECT, DIFF. BANKS WILL HAVE DIFF. WEBSITES AND I'LL PICK WF, DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE IT, BUT MAYBE HAVE A CASH OUT CENTER IN CANADA FOR CANADIANS, BUT MAY BE IN THE PLAN AND NOT SURE IF IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED

T- FIRST TIME I HEARD THAT

( THEN TONY TOLD A PAM JOKE)

 Okie is now saying .72 for the ZWN, have you heard that too?  Also, I'm concerned about referring to it as the ZWN as that was the designation for the 2nd generation of Zimbabwean currency. Is that currency designation being resurrected for the RV?

MISCELLANEOUS QUESTIONS

 Did the RV happen last week or not? I hear some people saying that it did but it just hasn't shown up yet. And I hear other people saying it did not happen. I am totally confused

 T- WELL YOU ARE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, THE RATE DID CHANGE IN IRAQ AND FOR A LOT OF PPL ON THE CARDS, AND THE LD'S ARE OUT AND THE MARKET RATE DID CHANGE, AND AT THE RETAIL CENTERS IT STILL SHOWS 1166, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THE RATE IS DIFF. AND TOLD THE RATE IS DIFF AND THE CARDS ARE DIFF. AND THE MARKETS ARE DIFF. BUT EVERY DETAIL WON'T CHANGE UNTIL THIS IS INTERNATIONAL,  SIMPLY PUT --- HAVEN'T WANTED TO SAY---BUT AT SOME POINT THE UST SCREWED IT UP --AFTER IRAQ SCREWED IT UP --ITS ONE BIG CLUSTER YOU KNOW WHAT --- KNOWN ABOUT IT FOR 10 YEARS, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE WALKED THRU THIS STEP BY STEP, WELL, ITS NOT THAT EASY AND THEY DIDN'T THINK IT THRU AND STILL DIDN'T - ONCE THIS GOES AND THE BOARDS GO DOWN, NO WAY TO HELP YO GUYS, SO STILL DIDN'T THINK IT THRU

 DC-- THEY HAVE PAMPHLETS AND THE BANKS HAVE INFO, ITS IN THE BEST INTEREST, NOT EVERYDAY DINARIANS,

T- THEY FEEL LIKE YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN, THATS HOW ITS GOING TO BE PLAYED, LOOKS LIKE IT

 Did “DC” tell you the number of pages to the latest NDA that he mentioned on Monday's call?

 DC-  NOPE

 Who controls the UST?

T- EMBARRASSED TO ANSWER THAT, NOT EVEN ANSWERING IT.

 You have said that when we have a call it makes them think of one more thing that needs to be done...is that still happening, and if so, do you think it would be best if we didn't have any more calls?

 T- GUYS, I DO KNOW WHATS HAPPENING FOR YEARS, AND

DC- IT IS

T- NOT JUST HIS CALL AND OTHERS AND THEY ARE LOOKING AND IN SOME RESPECTS IT HAS HELPED US AND IN OTHER RESPECTS IT HURT  US, AND THEY CAME OUT W/ LAWS TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T DO THOSE THINGS, BUT WE AREN'T GOING TO QUIT… ITS WORTH IT

SO IT ACTUALLY HELPED, THEY DIDN'T SAY WE CAN'T HAVE OUR MONEY

 Does the NDA apply to talking about the currency exchange or to the whole GCR?

 I clarified this question with the member in chat, and they are wondering if after they exchange and sign the NDA, are they restricted to not talking about the Global Currency Reset in general.

 T-THATS A DC QUESTION

DC- I'M NOT AN ATTY, BUT IT CLEARLY STATES YOU CAN NOT

T- NOT AT ALL, ITS A NON SUBJECT SUBJECT

 does tony think ppl give out bad rv info

T- EVERYONE BELIEVES IN THEIR SOURCES AND SOME DON'T GET THE WHOLE PIC, OR THEY GET INFO AT DIFF. LEVELS AND WE KNOW WHY THEY GET THE RATES THEY GET, THE PPL THEY GET IT FROM, ITS FROM IN THE PLAN OR IN THEIR PARTICULAR COUNTRY OR AREA, NOT NECESSARILY WHAT THE TOP GUYS ARE GETTING PAID OUT AND THEY BELIEVE WHAT THEY BELIEVE, AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO SEE THINGS IN IRAQ, DOCUMENTS AND AGREEMENTS - BUT THEY WILL GO

DC- MOST FOLKS, SOME ARE JERKS TO BE JERKS, BUT MOST ARE DESCRIBING A SCENARIO THEY SEE, LETS BEAT UP ON THE UST, IF I'M A LOW LEVEL PROGRAMER AND THEY WANT A CODE CHANGE, I GOT IT DONE, AND THEN THE MID LEVEL GUY SAYS I HAVE THIS PROJECT TO DO, AND THEN THE SENIOR STAFF SAYS WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THE IMF AND EVERYONE ELSE, THEY EACH HAVE THEIR OWN PERSPECTIVE, SO WHEN YOU LISTEN TO GURUS WHAT KIND OF INFO AND PUT TOGETHER SO IT MAKES SENSE TO YOU

T- WE KNOW THAT, THEY LISTEN TO THE CALLS, AND MORE THAN JUST THIS CALL AND THAT THERE IS LIST OF PPL THAT THEY LIKE AND A LIST THEY DON'T LIKE

DC- ABSOLUTELY

T- SOME WILL GET A VISIT AFTERWARDS AND SOME WONT' GET A VISIT AFTER

T- WANT THEM TO BE AWARE AND KNOW, WE KNOW WHO IS TELLING YOU THE TRUTH AND WHOSE GETTING PAID OFF OF THIS AND WHO IS NOT, AND SOME WILL REGRET BEING A GURU

T- IN THE END, THEY WILL PAY FOR IT

T- WAS THAT OK FOR ME TO SAY

can you ask tony to specify the times?

T- IF I GIVE YOU A TIME, ITS EAST COAST TIME, THAT TIME ZONE

can you explain China's role

T- NO, DON'T HAVE 2 WEEKS, THEIR ROLE IS BIG, EVERY PART OF IT, NO CAN'T GO THRU THAT NOW

 signed up for Vegas, and mom doesn't have a pc, can I bring her

T- ANYONE CAN BRING THEIR MOTHER, DADS ARE SOMETHING DIFF, BUT MOMS CAN ALWAYS COME - MAKE SURE THEY ARE REGISTERED, YOU AND A GUEST, BUT STILL NEED PHOTO ID, PAY ATTENTION TO THAT

 can you tell us about significance about meeting w/ CL

T- DID A LITTLE BIT, DC WANT TO GET IN DEPTH?

DC- WELL WE CAN DO A HIGH LEVEL AND BE OK, THE MEETING WAS - WHATS GOING ON, THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, AND WHATS THE ISSUE AND I'M TAKING IT OVER, SENT MEMOS AND SO ALOT OF FOLKS DID NOT WANT TO GIVE IT OVER TO IMF AND GET LOWER RATES, AND THEREFORE, SHE AS WELL AS OTHERS WENT TO TALK TO EVERYONE AND GET THE FEEL ON IT, IS THIS INTENTIONAL AND DO WE HAVE TO PENALIZE, OR IS IT TECHNICAL AND HER VIEW AND THAT OF OTHERS WAS THAT IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL OR MALICIOUS AND SO OUR RATES ARE STILL OK

T- YOU LEFT OUT ONE WORD

CONFIDENCE

I CAN NOT EVEN BELIEVE THIS

INCOMPETENT

T- JUST MISTAKES

T- I JUST GOT THIS TEXT AND IT SAYS, ---- NO DETAILS

DC--NO TONY NO

T- NO, ITS GETTING FIXED AND ITS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE

PAM - AND YOU THOUGHT I WAS YOUR CONSCIENCE LOL

T- STILL SHOOTING FOR TODAY

/ about the dong/zim tax?

T- EVERYTHING TAXED AS USUAL, ANOTHER SENATOR PUT IN A BILL FOR ZERO TAXES NEXT YEAR

DC- AS MY FRIENDS READ THE CURRENT PROPOSED LEGI. IT FOR ALL CURRENCIES, VERY BROAD

T- TAKES EVERYONE DOWN FROM 33 TO 9, THATS WHERE WE WANT IT TO BE

DC - PROPOSED LEGI, NOT LAW YET

 some say its illegal to cash out already, is that true

T- ARE THEY BEING ARRESTED

DC- I'M NOT IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT WOULD BE TO SHOW UP ON THESE GUYS DOORS

T- DID WE DISCUSS IF THEY BOUGHT MORE DINAR AND ITS ILLEGAL

DC- SHOULDN'T BE DOUBLE DIPPING, BUT INSIDER TRADING, IS PRIMARILY USED FOR STOCKBROKERS AND ….

 ( THE LINE WITH DC ON IT WENT DEAD )

 DC CALLING BACK IN

TONY CC CALL NOTES, PART 3, 27 NOV

PART 3 CC NOTES - WED. NOV. 27

( MAKING JOKES ABOUT CUTTING HIM OFF )

 DC - INSIDER TRADING IS PRIMARILY FOR PPL WITH SERIES X AND THAT LAW IS CLEARLY DEFINED AND IN TERMS OF LAWMAKERS OR OTHERS THAT CASHED IN, THEY DON'T HAVE STRICT LAWS AT ALL, TILL LAST APRIL AND YOU COULD DRIVE A TRUCK THRU THOSE LAWS, SO ITS A BROAD THING

( LISTEN TO THE REPLAY )

T- WHEN I SAY THAT PPL CAN'T CASH OUT, NOT THE GUYS THAT GOT PAID, BUT ONCE YOU CASH OUT, CAN YOU BUY

DC- WHEN IT GOES PUBLIC YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WANT TO

T- NO ONE GETTING ARRESTED OR BLACKLISTED - THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT, THE GROUPS - THREATENED OKIE, ESPECIALLY THESE GUYS FEEDING YOU BS

DC- MAKING FRIEND TONY LOL

T- MAKING A PROFIT OFF OF PPL

 LETS GO TO----- LIVE Q & A
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 c- ppl are ticked off on the boards,

t- can't let it destroy your day, when someone puts out something, but I can't put a blast out every day, don't want you going thru that, its unnecessary and others are putting things out and its unverified and causes you to go up and down, its being done, trying to do it today, and I just got a new time, thats what the text was about, and they want us spending money on Friday morning

c- from Mon.call, why CL stepped in, but is there another plan if this one… at a later date that she will step in

t- if we can't figure it out - can she?

DC-  there is a plan in place, but our clear understanding is that she is saying this is to be done now, but she can't press a button on a screen, especially as complicated and messed up as it got, she can't do it and mess the whole thing up but as long as we are progressing and her ppl are involved and they feel its being done on a timely basis, but she reserves the right to do it instantly, and then I'm done.

c- before the holidays, to stimulate the economy, realistically is there a possibility to wait till 2014

t- they are trying to do it TODAY, RIGHT NOW, not the end of the year, they do want to finish it now, the biggest  spending time, think of all the new millionaires and the gifts they could by, this could make up not one quarter but 2 quarters, they absolutely want it done right now….

about the best Christmas they can have

c- have a blessed Thanksgiving

 next 954

 c- doing laundry  -- good morning

c- just wanted to say hi

t- thanks - have a good day

c- what day are you going to Atlanta

t- was hoping to be in Atlanta this moment, but enjoy thanksgiving and be in Atlanta on Friday or Sat.

t- one day after I'll be in Atlanta, see how fast we can get a room and do a meet and greet

 next 954

 c- ? for the DC guy, re: the NDA, has he or you read the new NDA that came out, news that Judge Dale put out that serious implications-- said that he read -- you can't spend more than 4999 if you did, you would be under charges….. and have others sign the nda so it covers you

t- some said they saw the NDA, and you can't wire out more than 4,999

c- yes and then brought under charges, from Judge Dale

t- if you saw that and have that , produce it to me,

c- its in your TNT room, I got booted out, but some put it in the forum

t- that doesn't make sense in any sense of the word, that our gov. would restrict us to a 5K wire or we go to jail…

c- its out there

t- ok DC its your turn

DC- easy, doesn't make sense, can't' restrict biz. like that, but initial money can't' go to a foreign acct right away, but a 5K wire, you can't do biz. like that

t- in the past I said over 500K wire in the 1st 30 days, they have to approve it, so just don't do it, at that level they want to see who is getting that money and want to track it

t- my son is 20 years old and he'll send 5K out in the first 20 min.

c- has he seen the new nda?

c- just a basic one to cover the gov. - we only have 20 min. to read it

t- well they told me I can't publish it, I don't have the new one

DC- read several versions and all are straightforward, not trying to restrict you in conducting your daily life, its about protecting political stability

c- so don't write a move, and brag, cover their butts and ours at the same time

dc - bingo

t- you guys got to pick who you pay attention to, you should know when you hear absolute nonsense - it was removed from our board and you got this before, but why would you believe it- at some point you have to know whats nonsense

c- as of now, are we still in the window of the currencies - little time to cash in for the first 4, 5 days before a dramatic drop, or all of them will drop?

t- we don't know, who, what when, and Hedge Funds, just get in and don't worry about it, trying to get everyone thru in the first 5 days, so hopefully that long

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 c- once it was M holding it up, then a glitch in the software, everyone but the janitor, and now its the UST and its software, does the IMF have a diff. system, if CL wants to put it thru

t- even though we laugh and joke about the UST, and joking to get my friends back, lol

t- it has been a global thing, a once in a lifetime thing, and everyone in that level is looking at the big picture, not detail guys….my daughter tells me all the time - I thought you were doing it -- lol - thats what I have you for - and it could be whats going on w/ UST and over the last 4, 5 days, more embarrassment than anything and how they couldn't fix it, when it was delayed, but tell them, just tell the truth, but at that level you don't do that, no I'll fix it, and finally said, ok, we give up…

as far as another system, and for months the IMF would take it over and haven't' done it, they really want us to have this and the economy to have it today

but right now today, the world still revolves around the USD and it will affect everyone else and they wanted us to have the high rate and come the firs they will have to redo bunch of stuff that was done, another system??

DC - as long as they show that they are getting their act together - think we will be ok, but if not, Christiana can basically acknowledge the RV in Iraq and turn it on to the CBI

( listen to his Wedding Cake example  -- its one hour and 15 or16 minutes into the call )

c- it doesn't makes sense for me for a bank to wait, and doing it on Friday would be great, there won't be anyone at the bank, the ladies will be shopping

t- then you'll get half of what you got

c- from the bikini state happy thanksgiving and hope to be at the banks on Friday

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 c- the GCR in overview, and we need the NDA's so we don't talk about that, until the world publicly knows that it actuated, so part 1 ? is to cover the discussion about the GCR and 2? what kind of time frame is offered to - when the world will know it happened, not our payout, but the reset itself

t- so I know to try to give out the news locations that will do the blurbs…DC explain - the 2stations that have the 'story' that will be put out

DC - right now, everything can change, but as a currency change and it goes on a freq. basis during the year, Fox, CNBC or Wall St. Journal, things pop, … it will go along with that, the current message

t- so its a global, is it a one time news broadcast, or pick a particular country

dc- supposed to be a blurb, but if it catches wind, they'll say …. ( listen to his explanation )

to go over the everyday person's head

c- additional terms in the nda, specific to the conversation

t- i can tell you, the copy that I have, its specific to this, and this CR, and it came about to protect them, but we get the added benefit to protect ourselves, as so many would have talked… so the protection is extended to us, but its not about us, don't think for a min. that it was… its about protecting gov. and politicians, is it a bad thing - no, its a good thing for us, and especially for those building companies and biz.

So your family don't know you just won the lottery, cause 98% that win, the family is ruined and wants something and didn't work for it and wants something, been thru is several times myself

DC- nailed it

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 c- follow up on the 'story' on the news media, will it appear one time and on a financial channel at 3 in the morning and so they can say it was announced, when everyone was asleep

t- thats a good idea if they didn't have it, but it will probably be Sun. morn

dc- it will get lost away

c- share which stations, or kept in the dark from us

dc- as you pay attention, you read the article in the WSJ on Kuwait on p. 12, a little blip and everyone forgot about it

c- like the obit

DC- no one reads it

t- a dead issue lol

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 next 404

 c- hesitancy of WF to participate, how soon will you know which are participating,

t- let me do this first of all, I said WF - I don't have anything against WF and will use them myself and understand why they don't' want to do it, but like kids, they pick one person to say it, and maybe they all agree and WF is the one to say it, they don't want to do it this weekend….its being discussed right now and a decision made and here is what you want but this is what you'll do, but we don't know when the final decision will be made, Washington wants it today, they won't work today,, but if its not fixed, their intention is for it to go Friday

c- so it has to do w/ new accts and funding in the 20 min. deadline, ( this was convoluted )

t- when it goes, WF will be part of it

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PART 4 - WED. NOV. 27 CC NOTES 

next 636

 c- love the Obama is involved….poa in the nda, ? made no sense

t- I havent' seen or heard anything about a POA, not in the 20 page or the 5 page, all the Nesara ……..lol

c- zero sense

( discussing wires )

c- from exchangers

t- its from YOUR PERSONAL ACCT. AFTER YOU RECEIVE IT, THEY KNOW THE DEALERS ARE WIRING TO YOU

c- what about you wiring to them

t- crazy if you owe them more than 500K

c- every great set of errors, a cluster fumble, we are parents… just dumb or rebellious

c- is this incompetent, CL will spank them, but if this drags on till Tues. the 3 or Wed. the 4th

and our 30 days ends up in Jan. 2014 and then I could potentially not pay taxes till 2015

talk about a Cluster Fumble, I'm thinking we have a back wall, but….we are down to a week Tony… we're here

t- they want to get as much as they can get today, and once you walk out of the bank, you'll be on quarterly taxes….

c- then pay the lions share

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 c- blessed and highly favored

t- let me ask you a ? - and should have asked him - how do you get on this call every time

c- God is in my corner

t- the bank got their 800#s last Wed. - the numbers are done, I got the call that said they got theirs, the numbers aren't an issue, we are just waiting for the activation

t- nobody ate them, sitting on the plate - waiting to be served

c- did you see the article on Charter Standard Bank to be starting in Iraq, M announced it

c- thought it was awesome, exciting article

t- when does it start

c- today

c- excited to see you in Atlanta, happy Thanksgiving to you and your family

t- ty

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 c- introduced it to 15 friends and keep them up to date, and given them a checklist and what to do when the 800#s come out, and some are still afraid, and told them that I can't talk to you until you sign your NDA, but any form of understanding on how I can help them, i.e. spguru was careful on what he said, more to help us feel good, but more of an understanding, in what ways can I help them, if they need help

t- wish we could get an answer in writing, so I can without being in jeopardy, and again don't know if they thought of an outlet, ppl will still need direction, who do they go to, the voice of reason, and asked MR.DC to bring in up in meetings and asked our IMF guys too

t- personally I think spguru is dancing on the line or ducking bullets, playing w/ fire and I'm not doing any of that, according to the nda that I read, he'd be gone, so its out there

DC - bottom line, I haven't' seen a good answer for everyday folks at all, whats the party line, and the ones that I have read are explicit on what you can say, for my own family and friends, its call the # and then … but before I sign the NDA will go thru w/ my family and explain to them what to do and beyond that point I can't, and overall you made a good sum of money and how to handle it responsibly

c- talked to some, you just have to get thru and after that there will be lots of help

c- have ppl that never had more than a few hundred in the bank and some its daunting, and wish I could go with them, not that I have the time, but talk about whats not in the NDA, not dong or dinar, but general, calm down and its OK, motivational,

t- you can still talk to them, they're still your friends, but not about the GCR, not about the process - you've signed - just get them together now if you haven't already and say this is the info, and go in the forum, there is one cash out procedure with the map, this is what I can do now, but the min. you walk out of the bank you are on your own, ……

Once you walk out the bank everyone goes on

I am - here on the site, if the procedure gets messed up - how do I get the word out, thats what I'm concerned with.. and we don't know at this point

c- we have 4 currencies and def want to cash it all out, is the 1 note thing in place, or will they charge a big spread to do the one note

t- still in place, but asked me to do on the call, if you don't need it -wait for your appt. the 800#s the first person in the bank w/in 2 hours, so if you can wait, please do so, if your appt is at 3 that afternoon, then you don't have to do the one note at 9am… one note at 900K can last anyone till your appt. and those with appts. the 1st day or so, you don't have to….just wait is what they ask, and they did add more banks because of that, but we are part of the process and can help everybody

c- confused on the zim - is it 6, or 9 lop

t- don't know, haven't' seen anything official, giving you the rate the bank is looking at, and I hear 6, and hope thats right, but if its 9 - thats great

c- giving out rates today

t- Pam has the rates

c- no one asking about the rate

t- no one cares anymore, but there is a little controversy about the rate, tried to throw Pam under the bus

DC- maybe some minor changes, its incredible, sit back and relax

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 c- been doing it 10 years and when the articles hit about Iraq, I started giving it away, but been a hardworking guy all my life, trying to get on forum and now can't go to Vegas, and #3 ever time I get on the Internet, there is something about dinar

DC- thats because of your cookies,  thats how web research is

c- are you with the IMF or the UST or can you say

DC - I am not

c- gave it to mechanics, and ppl w/out high paying jobs, and some will be hard to find, and you say 'cash  out' not a big deal

t- believe me - when I go to the bank I'M EXCHANGING IT

c- have a friend that PM's Pam, might go to Ray's class, and will be there and maybe I'll bump into you

t- hold on

t- here is the issue guys, some mods, wanted it shut down, even though we weren't to the 20K , but kicked ppl off that were issues, and have rec'd calls and were in good standing and didn't get to register, so Pam will give her email… no she's not

c- can I get to Pam thru my friend

t- tntdinarhelp@gmail.com

t- is the email address if you were in good standing and didn't get in and they'll look at the last data base, and they'll send you an email w/ your log in and password

c- don't have a computer, so go thru my friend

 OK GUYS, EVEN THOUGH IT HASN'T HAPPENED THEY ARE STILL TRYING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN TODAY

UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM AND ASKED FOR THE HELP THEY NEED AS A TEAM

THE POTUS GOT INVOLVED

EVERYONE WANTS IT DONE TODAY AND NOW ITS ABOUT FIXING THE SYSTEM

AND IF IT GETS DONE

IF IT GETS TOO LATE IT WILL GO ON FRIDAY…NOT WAIT TILL MONDAY

EVEN THOUGH ITS BLACK FRIDAY THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD

MASS CONFUSION, LINES EVERYWHERE…CAN BURY IT IN THAT

BUT DON'T HAVE TO DO IT THEN…THEY CAN TODAY

AND THEY DON'T WANT TO WAIT TILL MONDAY

REGARDLESS OF WHAT SOMEONE ELSE TOLD YOU

REGARDLESS OF BANKING LAWS

AND CL MADE THEM THEN

DC- CLOSE ENOUGH, THE CONFUSION WAS THE AUDIT DATES,

T- SO THAT IS NOT WHAT WE ARE WAITING FOR

FEEL GOOD…EVERYONE TRYING TO GET IT DONE….RATES ARE STILL HIGH

LITTLE DEBATE BUT STILL HIGH

NOT TO DO W/ ME OR YOU, BUT WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN APRIL AND TODAY

AND SHOULD BE SETTLED TODAY

HOPE WE HAVE A GREAT DAY AND A GREAT THANKSGIVING

WISH EACH AND EVERYONE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING

AND IF NOT BEFORE SURELY TALK TO YOU AFTER

DON'T DO THE MIDNIGHT SHOPPING UNTIL WE HAVE OUR MONEY ON FRIDAY LOL

DC- HOPE ITS FILLED WITH JOY

PAM- BE NICE TO EACH OTHER AND TO THE MODS

T- THE MODS GET MEANER EVERY DAY AND KICK PPL OFF

P- YOU WOULD HAVE

P- WE HAVE SOME THAT WILL BE MODS ON THANKSGIVING, PLEASE DON'T MAKE THEIR LIFE HARD

T- THEY MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS

RAY- HAPPY THANKSGIVING

T- ENJOY YOUR DAY

AND I'LL ENJOY MINE

AND HOPE TO TALK TO YOU BEFORE THE NIGHT IS OVER

__________________

Montana