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Monday, September 30, 2013

30M UPDATE: "THIS WILL BE DONE BY WEDNESDAY", 30 SEPTEMBER

Confirmed with 9'sources this will be done by Wednesday.  1 says rate is around $3 the other 8 are saying double Digits. 

That's it

BLUWOLF POST, 30 SEPTEMBER

Well I am not going to go into politics but the main plan just might come forth if the players stick to there scripts, but see that is to be seen for till this moment they have been known to coward down and do something different to spoil things for humanity as a whole. Hey whoever lets just get this rv out, stop being a jerk you will feel better about yourself.

Meanwhile the soap opera has till the hour of 12am to reach its fin (end), if so we may see action with our rv. Remember those people with vouchers in Panama, well they figure and went to try to get cashed out this past friday and they all got snagged, good thank you Lord. Now it has come to my attention that there is someone saying that if we negotiate for a higher rate that we will be paying a lot more taxes for this. Listen up that is not true at all, I figure that whoever is saying this has a scheme of some sort and you can tell by the timing, exactly one week before you receive your blessings, now you can do what you wish to exchange but do not let a certain few fool you out of getting the best of this exchange.

There is no law that has been made or put in place that attacks this dinar issue and if so it would project the worlds biggest class action law suit on a specific and targetted currency, a winner by far. Remember there is a big difference between a bank buying off your dinars and 4 other banks exchanging your dinar, the value is much higher, see folks this is why mr.whoever wants you to believe that high tax bs he wants to fool you to think that all the exchanges will be at the same money value, I do not think so and neither should you. All world banks will be online simultaneously on October 2, the banks are ready, the walkin rates still showing high. I want to wish all, the highest of prosperities from that point on. Be wise, Happy Journeys and God bless.

Bluwolf

OKIEOILMAN POST, 30 SEPTEMBER

IT APPEARS THAT WE SHOULD KNOW OUR POSITION IN LIFE (R/V WISE) BY SOMEWHERE AROUND MIDNIGHT. 

THERE ARE TREATYS, AGREEMENTS, CONTRACTS, BOND TRANSFERENCE AND OTHER ISSUES THAT EXPIRE TONIGHT. 

WITHOUT AN ENTIRE GLOBAL RESET THESE CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENTS WOULD BE NULL AND VOID. 

THIS WOULD BE VIRTUALLY STARTING THE BALL GAME ALL OVER AGAIN. 

(NO--NOT 10 YEARS WORTH) BUT COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT DELAY. 

LETS ALL PRAY THIS HAPPENS BEFORE MIDNIGHT TO PREVENT THIS---KEEP THE FAITH AND PRAYERS GOING UP------BLESSINGS GALORE-------NUFF SAID! 

[..OkieOilMan] SOMETIMES OKIE'S SENSE OF HUMOR REALLY BORDERLINES SANITY---HEH HEH [

..OkieOilMan] I AM AWAITING FURTHER INFORMATION ON WHETHER THE BANKS WERE ISSUED THEIR 800 NUMBERS TODAY--THAT WILL TELL THE STORY I WOULD THINK.

 [..OkieOilMan] THE RATES AT THIS EXACT MOMENT IN TIME IS STILL CONSTANT

12tTHMAN POST, 30 SEPTEMBER

12thman said: Please please post this...After reading Okies post and receiving a call that says our window still looks good, I am calling all Brothers and Sisters to stop what their doing and pray to the Heavenly Father that this RV happens before midnight. I am a true believer in the power of prayer! 

Please throughout the rest of the night, please send prayers up to our Father that the people who's egos/pride and greed will be put aside so all will flow to the Children of our Awesome God. I'm praying...will you. May God bless you all and Jesus be your guiding light as we begin the new path post RV.

EAGLE1 CC NOTES, 30 SEPTEMBER

Short Eagle1 Call Monday Night ..Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U

[FLPatriot59] Eagle1 Call starting momentarily....Please stand by.

EAGLE1 CALL - Over 370 people on this call tonight, over triple the number expected. Welcome and thank-you for joining us. What you hear on this call is our opinion only. Please check with your own advisors if you hear anything here you like.

E1 = EAGLE1 - Opening prayer is being presented now.

E1 - how we got 400 people on this call I don't know. What started out with 50 people sure exploded on us. Obviously it has to do with the post I sent out over the weekend and it got a lot of people excited.

That post I sent out to our email list and the edited version that appeared on the Forum pretty much covered where we are. But I've had some interersting confirmations in the past 24 hours.
E1 - I received an email from a missionary couple in Panama. They wrote to confirm that, yes, the ATMs are open but the banks may not be working because of the new system. This confirms from Panama that a new banking system is being installed. This means they are NOT switching over to the Euro but are using their own currency, per the GLOBAL CURRENCY RESET. They had to install the Babylon software to be compliant with B3 protocols.

E1 - the other piece of this news is that Panama is backing up their currency and returning to the use of the Balboa. Why have the UN rates shown the Balboa as parallel to the USD? The Balboa was technically never declared a defunct currency. But the USD has always been the currency of trade in Panama. With the decision to switch over to the Balbao, this is part of their decision to be part of the worldwide Basel III banking system and have an asset-backed banking system.

E1 - They've made a decision to back-up their currency with gold. I asked a friend at the IMF today about the Balboa long-haul if the GCR is released, should we look at the Balboa as future investment. His answer is "I do not recommend it, as there are much better currency investments than the Balboa."

E1 - We still expect to have everything fly tonight. What I don't know is whether the banks will be able to exchange tomorrow. We know all the rates are on administrative screens and are ready to go up front. They have assured themselves they are ready to push the button at midnight tonight.

E1 - We have some disputes about the rates. I've heard nothing about the Dong or Rupee. WF is showing an exchange rate of $3.22, which is not set in stone. They have been changing the rates offscreen to keep people off-guard, but we are assured it will be a $3+ rate. The expected range is expected between $3.44-3.55.

E1 - I've seen the fee structures at WF and they have ranged from 3.5% to 12%. It depends a lot on the value of the currency as to what the fees will be. When we go to the bank, based on the amount of money involved - this is unprecedented worldwide - we're coming to the bank with millions of dollars and when we come as a group, when we walk in they know and they've already assured us we will get the best rate WF can provide us. We fully expect to see the bank provide us with the max possible, even if they take a cut in the spread. If we get the published rate per the CBI, then I would expect to get at least that amount.

 E1 - Q&A Starting Now......

Q - I'm getting the impression that the banks will be ready to go into Tuesday morning? A - Yes, I will receive a call at 6AM my time to let me know if the rates are on the screens and if there's a 24-hour hold. We've heard that once the GCR goes live there is a 24-hour period for the banks to get ready. Until tomorrow morning, I won't know for tomorrow exchange or not.

Q - So the next 24 hours should be very telling? A - Absolutely!

Q - Would it be advisable to rush to the bank with everything they've got or just CE a note or two to see what we've got? A - That's probably a wise course to follow, depending on how much total you have. If you're looking at exchanging $10M IQD, I don't recommend you walk into the bank with that. One of things we've been hearing is that when you exchange your IQD, there is a restriction on it until the USD is fully rolled out, as much as 30-60 days before we can use those funds outside the USA. You can spend them for products coming into the USA, but you can't transfer them out of the country until the USD rolls out.

Q - That applies only to the IQD because of the gold-backing. You are being paid exclusively by the gold-backed USD. Until that roll-out is complete you cannot take that money outside the country. You can exchange VND or others and spend them anywhere else in the world. If you're in Canada and you CE, you're going to be paid in CDN and you won't have those restrictions.

Q - We've heard to use the terms IQN or IQD, VND or VNN? A - When you walk in the bank with your currency, they don't care what you call it. You have the currency in front of you. You're there to exchange dinar period.

Q - Is it required to use the term "currency exchange?" A - Yes. You will be given a variable of the new FINcen form 104. You want to make sure when you discuss it that you are talking about a simple currency exchange. That applies to all currencies, not just the IQD. I posed this question to the folks at Abbot Downing and they said this form must be completed.

Q - Will this exchange be completed right there with immediate credit? A - Yes, you're bringing in cash and you should see cash back in your bank account. You can't bring in a $25K note and walk out with $75K USD. You can get cashier's checks on the spot (for house payout, for example).

[sonnayhwh] Little trivia bit . . . "Abbot Downing" was the company that built the stage coaches for Wells Fargo . . . now, back to your regularly scheduled program. . . grin

 [TexasMom] sonnayhwh hi that's interesting!! ty

Q - For those who do not have a bank account, should there be a problem to open one? A - Correct, but it will just take longer.

[wxxxxxxxxx] Abbott Downing is the financial planning firm that WF aquired. Just something to think about...

Q - would it be a good idea to have a paper trail in paying off bills? A - Yes, we're dealing in numbers that are not the norm in business transactions. You're dealing in millions and contribute that to a ministry of some kind, you certainly want to keep a paper trail.

Q - would it be a good idea to have a paper trail in paying off bills? A - Yes, we're dealing in numbers that are not the norm in business transactions. You're dealing in millions and contribute that to a ministry of some kind, you certainly want to keep a paper trail.

END OF CALL.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 30 SEPTEMBER

9-30-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony    [What is going to  happen tomorrow morning and it hasn't RV’ed?]  We are going to have a mess. They  don't know what will happen, contracts need to be changed, how does it affect  the world's economy, will they have to go back to the drawing board? There is a  whole scenario no one is talking about. People have flown here over the weekend  to prevent the ugly from happening.  Meetings are taking place in DC and they  are laying out the ramifications if this doesn’t go down today.   I have every  indication they will do this today because no one wants to cross that bridge.  Every organization has been notified that it is to happen today but until it  does, we won't know.  Banks are prepared, we are close.  Hopefully it will be a  great day tomorrow.   [post 3 of 3]

9-30-2013  Intel Guru TNT Tony   The rates are still $25.87 and $2.67 on the screens, if they hold and they  should.  All banks have the exact same rate.  They received the 800#’s over the  weekend and they should be released sometime today.  We shall see.  Many meeting  are going on today to see if they can push this through before midnight.  The 30 days to exchange is still there.  We don’t know what the tax will be until it becomes law.  [post 2 of 3….stay tuned]

9-30-2013  Intel  Guru TNT Tony   The RV is still on, people are at  the banks, some went in this morning and some will be going in at 3:00 eastern.  There are 2 teams out there, some believe it will happen before the vote today  and some believe it will happen after, but most believe it will be before  midnight tonight.  If not, there's going to be a lot of scrambling tomorrow  to recover 10 years of work.  The good thing about  it is they're trying to get it done today, one way or another.  [post 1 of  3….stay tuned]

9-30-2013   Intel Guru TerryK   I GOT A CALL AT 245 AM THIS MORNING FROM MY UST PERSON.  SHE TOLD ME TO BUCKLE MY SEAT BELT THAT THIS WAS ABOUT TO GO DOWN.  SHE GOT A CALL THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN
CONFIRMED AND READY TO GO.

9-30-2013  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Article:  “Iraq Iraq's reserves of
foreign exchange and what it means for the life of the citizen
”    IMO, Kahlil is simply stating that the dinar will rise to at least 1 to $1 as oil exports over the next 4 years are going to be 6-8 mbpd.  I don’t think he is saying its going to take that long, just that the rise in inevitable

TONY CC RECORDED LINK & NOTES, 30 SEPTEMBER

REPLAY     805-399-1500    409029#

BolgTalkRadio RECORDED LINK

(Call starts about 1-2 minutes into recording_

Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U Chat:   

T = TONY | C = CALLER

Tony - Good morning, TNT! It's Monday, Sept. 30, 2013. This is not the ghost of Tony speaking, this is actually Tony speaking. Pam sent me a bunch of questions I'll try and go thru.

T - I got some info about what's supposed to go on today, I have the rates on the boards, I have people all over the world expecting it today. If it doesn't happen, it won't be a pretty picture but we'll cross that bridge if we get there.
T - I talked to people over the weekend who told me they like the way we present things here. I tell them "I didn't ask for this or even wanted to do this." It became a sense of responsibilty and people want to hear the info. I've seen people being taken advantage of, as I've tried to warn you over the years. It's not always what people say, it's what they DON'T say.

T - This is a big thing and you will learn as you develop friendships and trust. If I don't say it or don't get involved in it there's a reason for it. I see something that tells me "don't do that." There's a reason - it's not right to me, the numbers don't add up, etc. it's just not for me.

T - Over time you'll go back and look at things that I wasn't involved in, endorsed, and the light will clearly shine and you'll think "that's why he didn't do it." I've been told to tell you some things and I'll tell you what I think about it. People say things on other calls, behind closed doors, and people don't think I'll find out. Even now I'm trying to tell things about the cash-out procedures and groups - not all groups. Some are structured the way they should be.

T - What you should care about is your money, your investment and are you being treated fairly by these people? I don't have a problem with honesty. I get calls and I laugh at it. For instance, last week a caller called in about 2 years ago, what happened, etc. I have no fear about answering those questions. I don't have a problem giving an honest answer to an honest question. I know what I'm going to do with my money, increase it, multiply it, etc. I'm not getting paid a dime for these calls of from any of the dealers. No agreement to get paid either before or after the fact. Not one bank has agreed to pay me anything to direct me to them.

T - The reason I'm bringing this up is because a bunch of people sent out stuff about the groups. I said "let it die." Then yesterday I got a call that I died. An email was floating around, people were getting upset, etc. Now they've lowered themselves to say that I'm dead. (Also, I'm not getting paid anything from BlogTalk Radio or FreeConference Call - there is no revenue there. I don't even know how to do that.) So, over the weekend I supposedly died. Then we heard people from other sites were going to call in here and disrupt the call like they did the last call. I don't know why people do this - they must be mad that I'm giving you the info and letting you think for yourself.

T - The RV is still going. People are at the banks right now. Some went in this morning and others aren't going in until 3PM EST today. There are 2 teams out there: those that believe we should see the RV before the vote and those who believe it will be after the vote. But most think it will happen today - at least before midnight. There are global events that must be live before Oct 1 and it must be "live" before that. If not, there's going to be a lot of scrambling tomorrow to recover 10 years of work.

T - The good thing about it is they're trying to get it done today, one way or another. The rate is still $25.87 and 2.67, which is what's being seen on the screens. These should hold based on what we're seeing and being told. For their purposes, the RV did occur and people were getting paid out in Iraq and in DC until the announcement wasn't being made and it stopped. They did pay them out at the $25.87 rate, no matter what people are telling you. I think it's a crazy rate. I'll tell you why I believe the rates: I've gotten info from DC that at the $25.87, the most tax you should have to pay is 11% if it's approved. I got this directly from the people who should know and they're advising people and asking me to let it be known.

T - Months ago I told you they were trying to do a 1-2% by the end of the year. Then there was a 9 3/8% that's not approved. Then at $25.87 they said the tax should be 11%. Anything above that rate - if you go to the ceiling rate - they're arguing about now making your tax at 55%. I don't know what the cutoff is, we're trying to find that out now. Nothing is in stone yet, but I'm making you aware of what they're talking about. That's why I said keep 50% aside for taxes. I don't want to tell you these rates and then you not exchange at the higher rate and then the law doesn't pass. That's a decision you have to make based on the fact that you have the info. It's not law yet. Right now, get your money and worry about the rest later.

T - You have to decide what's best for you and how you plan to operate with this. I want you to be aware of the entire picture. Many of you will have to decide if that $25.87 is enough. Here's a question: how can that tax rate be applied to this currency and not the others? Because this currency wasn't tradeable it may be treated differently for tax purposes. This is what they're looking at for November. If you spend all your money by then you'll regret it for the rest of your life. All the banks we talked to you this morning have the exact same rate. So you don't have to worry about getting an email. The 800# were received by the banks over the weekend and should be released sometime today.

T - We are at a critical point right now and I can't say whether or not the vote will play a part in it. At 2PM EST they're going to vote and send it back and forth. This could go on until midnight.

T - Things did happen in Panama. People moved money there, went there and deposited money there. Yes, they did name names and people will be indicted and removed, bank accounts frozen for quite a few gov't officials. An agreement was made over the weekend that will help out with the release pertaining to Panama. Too many things are happening today, other countries are here today to try and push this through today by midnight.

T - They're saying everybody is excited and ready to go. We just have to wait until 2PM and see what happens. It's getting ready to happen so we'll see.

CALL DROPPED ..... PLEASE STAND BY......

Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM NOW:

Q - will the gov't shutdown stop the RV? A - you need 3 signatures to stop it.

Q - if this doesn't happen before Oct. 2 will it happen? Please be honest. A - It will be harder because agreements will expire.

Q - after 30 days is up can we not exchange our 3-zero notes? A - I know they're trying to cut it all off, but the 30 days is still there. It's not about us - within 30 days they'll have enough money and you're not the priority. If you don't CE within that 30 days they'll figure you're speculating.

Q - will we miss out on the $25.87 rate if we don't CE right away? A - I will give you the timeframe after the announcement is made. There are 2 ways to look at it: first, the $25.87 may hold for the 1st 4-5 days. As we get ours sold the hedge fund people could start buying since they'll know the ceiling. I don't think they can buy as quickly as we can sell. If it's a free float, there are still a lot of unanswered questions - but this is what is being discussed in DC right now.

Q - what are we looking at for the ceiling rates? A - If on Day 1 it comes out and I tell you the ceiling rate, don't you think they will change it? They absolutely will. They could drop it $3 in one day and everybody will lose money because you waited for the higher rate. There are reasons you don't get specific but instead give a range. If I was giving it to all of you don't you think the hedge fund managers would find out, too?

Q - Is there something within the gov't that can hold it up? A - yes, there are those same 3 signatures but we won't know until midnight tonight. We're at that point.

"LIVE" Q & A NOW..... C = CALLER | T = TONY

C - please clarify what you said "go get your money." It could actually go down to 3.44, right? T - It could go down because this current rate is momentary and is not permanent. It's an opening rate just like an IPO. The best option for you might be to take the $25.87 rate and not gamble. Even if the gov't takes 50% it's a win/win.

T - take your time and think this out and you'll come out with the best situation for you. I talked with Frank this morning and they said they absolutely will exchange any currency for other currency or precious metals. There is another law currently being debated (HR77) that says no taxes from all foreign currency exchange. But they're trying to get this tax now. But the problem is that if you hold your CE until after this passes on 1/1/14 the high rate of $25.87 will be gone. You can always take that dinar and exchange it into Euro, Rupees, CND, etc., but remember you're getting their rate and not our rate.

C - So you're saying that between now (2PM) and midnight we should see something, right? What about that ugly bridge we don't want to talk about? T - over the weekend people flew here to help avoid the ugle thing from happening. I'm sure we'll know tomorrow if we don't know by midnight. Let's hope we don't get to that bridge.

C - Is the third person Bernanke? T - no.

C - In your blast you said something about an announcement? T - there is not going to be a public announcement.

C - regarding the taxes, please clarify the rates. If I ask for $1 over that $25.87 street rate will that extra $1 be taxed at the 55%? T - I don't know. It's being worked on right now.

C - I had to think "follow the money" to ask who benefits from this campaign - trying to confuse us ?? the bankers ?? they will make the spread?? T - I'm getting this info from the gov't, not the banks. They're telling me what's being submitted and what bill they are looking to put out there. Will this cover the new gov't programs and will we have a surplus and who decides where that gets spent. This portion is not about the banks.

C - Is the oil credit deal only for low denom or will I get $25.87 for my 500 note? T - it's going to drop rapidly before 3 months. It's going to be the market rate and we don't know what's going to happen in the Middle East in the future.

C - what's going to happen tomorrow morning and it hasn't RVd? T - we're going to have an absolute mess. They don't know what will happen, i.e., contracts need to be changed, how does it affect the world's economy, do they have to go back to the drawing board, etc.? There is a whole scenario no one is talking about. I have every indication they will pull this off today because no one wants to cross that bridge. All of the agencies have been notified but until it happens, we won't know.

C - What else could these people possibly want that is holding this up? T - don't know, maybe $26.87?

C - Will the banks be able to tell us the tax rate? T - no, they want know until it becomes law. They won't be able to tell the ceiling rate because they won't know. You should ask for something, they make a phone call, and get an authorization to give it to you.

C - How does this tax scenario apply to the VND? T - I'm hearing it's not going to because it's already tradeable. If I'm going to gamble with one that is the one I'd go with.

C - How confident are you about today? T - I feel good about it. Everybody at every level thinks this has to be done by midnight tonight. I'm hoping that common sense prevails, that the contracts prevail. It's not about the RV itself. It's about actually bringing it public to us. The RV happened last week when docs were signed. If not you wouldn't have seen the vote at the UN and the announcement that Iraq had been released from Chapter 7. Now they are part of the WTO. They've met their qualifications.

C - Why is this being held back? T - Somebody is still using it as leverage to get something. I don't know what it is. We could say it's related to what is going on today, i.e., funding, the vote, etc. Think about this way: let's say the RV happened last month and the gov't is fully funded, would we be talking about a gov't shutdown right now? No. There would not be a vote. And there would not be a discussion about funding Obamacare. So, who is holding it for leverage? The whole world is waiting on the US.

T - Iraq has done everything they need to do. They're waiting for it to go public like we are. Why would they keep putting it on their public TV announcing it's done, etc. Why would they do that? As far as we are concerned, there is absolutely no concern for us. We are a bi-product of this and will reap the benefits. Everyone should be living their lives, going on as usual. We can't blame them for that - it's not about us.

C - I'm watching C-Span and the Senate just delayed spending and sent it back to the House. What does this mean? T - This will go back and forth all day until midnight. If it doesn't happen the gov't will shut down tomorrow.

C - How could contractors in Iraq get this rate if there's no UST in Iraq? T - When we cash where do we go? To the bank. Contractors in the ME bank on the base or US Embassy, and those are attached to the UST. Every US base in the world has US banks on-base tied to the UST. If they go off-base, they have to have a letter or a dual-citizenship if they want to use a non-US bank.

C - Have you confirmed with Frank at Sterling/DB about matching the bank rate? T - Frank doesn't know what he's going to offer until the CBI puts up their rate. It will be the market rate - he is not in a position to pay a higher rate, just the market rate.

C - Can we exchange from dinar to foreign currencies at the bank? T - Yes, I would think so. You have to ask them. Just because about the rates. The IQD/KWD will not be the same rate, for example.

C - In terms of midnight or today, can we bank today if it happens today? T - As of last week, we heard that they wanted to get people in the banks within 2 hours of it going live. Then later we heard they changed that to us banking the next morning after it goes live.

QUICK TONY BREAK.....PLEASE STAND BY......

C - I'm curious about that $25.87 rate. Was any consideration given that this will not hold for the 30 days? T - How would that work on the Forex market or on the global market with the hedge fund markets, etc.? Not going to happen.

C - Regarding the meetings today, can you share what those meetings are? T - They are in DC with people who originally put the plan together who are insisting this happens today and making sure everybody understands the ramifications of what will occur if it doesn't happen today.

C - I heard IMF had taken over process on Sept 5th. Accurate? Penalties if US was at fault for IMF to take over. T - if the IMF, UN did take over we wouldn't still be waiting for announcement or activation. They could have done that globally already.

C - If the urgency is today, are we waiting for the banks to be open or closed? T - We have another 28 minutes before all banks are open. They already missed the "before the vote" timeframe. If they're saying before midnight I don't think they really care.

CALLER ASKING ABOUT POST-RV SEMINARS AT VEGAS MEETING.

C - I'm confused. You said hold on to it until Jan. 2014 and we would miss the 30 days. T - I didn't say hold it until 1/1/14. You have 30 days to get the highest rate. Your options are: do I cash out within 30 days and get as much as I can, or do I put it in a MCA and then cash it out in January when the rate could be different (as well as the tax liability)? Those are options - I'm not telling anybody to hold anything!

C - when you're quoted the rate by the banks, are they actually seeing that rate or are they converting it from something? T - No, they're actually seeing that rate. We have people who are seeing actual numbers who are in the banking industry. We are getting from DC, from the 3-letter agencies that these are the laws being addressed at these rates.

C - Since we know the law-makers hold IQD, won't these tax laws apply to them as well? T - Don't know. They're writing the laws and also writing the tax loopholes.

C - If it RVs tomorrow, the tax law could go in effect the next day? Couldn't they come out in March 2014? T - Exactly, that's why I said to set aside 50% until it happens so you don't regret it. The simplest thing is to take the $25.87.

C - You sang "Happy Birthday" to Pam and I wanted to tell you "don't quit your day job." T - My wife tells me I'm tone deaf.

C - I'm not understanding why, with this info about the rates, the more info that's out, the more we can buy. Is this what they want? T - That's a valid point. I've known for years that they are listening to our calls. I've gotten calls from the agencies that tell me this is a safe place to get out the truth. Others have an agenda. I got a call last week from people related to the Chinese, that they know what's being said here. They made some changes (that every bank has the $25.87 rate) because of the info being given out and being shared with honesty and no agenda. Do they want this info put out? Yes. This will not be on the 6 o'clock news. Do they want you to buy dinars? Yes, because if they didn't want that to happen they would have cancelled 13303. This way they don't have to give out stimulus packages. You're going to spend and start new businesses.

T - they want to broaden the base and make it a more knowledgeable base. They put protections in place at the banks for you. I'm getting this info from bank insiders, that the warning is there that there will be abuses from the bankers on us.

C - So aren't the banks at risk of litigation for telling everybody it's a scam? T - they won't be open to litigation because until it happens it can go either way. The moment it happens, though, that will all change. A judge could come in and void all lawsuits.

T - I have to cut this off now. I think it's a great day. We're in a great position. Everybody I talk to thinks we're in a great position. A lot of contracts and agreements expire today and we don't know how things will change tomorrow if it doesn't happen today. The 800#s are there - or at least access to them. We are THIS close - relax. Wait for the text. There is absolutely nothing we can do about it. It's all in somebody else' hand. Go on about your day and have a super fantastic day!
END OF CALL.

TK CHAT, 30 SEPTEMBER

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[TERRYK]    lol
[teddybear]       lol
[TERRYK] SO A LITTLE JUICE THIS MORNING
[beach]    good to see in the am with us.
[TERRYK] I GOT A CALL AT 245 AM 
[TERRYK] LAST NIGHT
[TERRYK] THIS MORNING
[TERRYK] FROM MY UST PERSON
[TERRYK] SHE TOLD ME TO BUCKLE MY SEAT BELT THAT THIS WAS ABOUT TO GO DOWN
[TERRYK] SHE GOT A CALL THAT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED AND READY TO GO
[TERRYK] NOW WHAT THAT MEANS TO ME AT 245 AM IS OK IM GOING BACK TO BED
[TERRYK] SO I LAID THERE FOR A HOUR OR SO COULD NOT SLEEP AND OF COURSE THE SITE IS NOT OPEN
[TERRYK] SO ANYWAY FINALLY GOT BACK TO SLEEP AND WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU THIS AM
[TERRYK] THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SHE HAS CALLED ME THIS LATE/EARLIER
[TERRYK] OF COURSE THE WIFE WANTED TO KNOW WHO IT WAS
[TERRYK] I TOLD HER JAKE FROM STATE FARM
[TERRYK] NOT GOOD HAVING WOMEN CALLING YOU THAT LATE BREATHING HARD
[ericasmom]    was he wearing khakis    
[TERRYK] SHE
[TERRYK] NO I TOLD HER WHO IT WAS
[TERRYK] I WAS BEING FUNNY
[TERRYK] SHE GOES OMG
[TERRYK] REALLY
[TERRYK] 2:45 AM
[TERRYK] IT CANT WAIT
[TERRYK] IM LIKE YEA I KNOW
[TERRYK] SO BACK TO WORK, JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL 
[TERRYK] WHAT I HAD
[arizona49] Good morning all 
[TERRYK] GM AZ
[TERRYK] GOD BLESS 
[TERRYK] WILL BE BACK
[TERRYK] LATER
[teddybear]    thank you terryk

AUNTBEE BANK STORY: " THEY COULD CASH HIM IN AT $25 PER DINAR ON TUESDAY", 30 SEPTEMBER

AuntBee: ***Bank Story...UncleBee just called and said one of his crew workers took his 1 dinar that UncleBee gave him to the local bank Friday...They told him to come back TUESDAY and that they could cash him in at $25+ per dinar...waiting to hear what Bank

krakkerjaxx] Aunt Bee can you re-post, please?

[AuntBee] Not that Big of Deal, The bank told someone we know to Come Back Tuesday to Exchange and they see a rate of $25+

[mimiover21] AuntBee Someone you trust???

[AuntBee] mimiover21 one of UncleBees worker Bees :}

[kengol] Auntb when did this happen? Was it recent?

[AuntBee] kengol Friday
[AuntBee] waiting to ask if it was a teller or manager or if anything else was said

[AuntBee] UncleBee just called and said the Bank is a BIG one and it is the guys regular bank, the teller told him that tomorrow is when the Rates Update.

[AuntBee] I feel.....High from Hopium :}

[AuntBee] BUT I have Been This High Before :? lol

[wantingfreedom] AuntBee OMG That is just so exciting!! Thanks!! (hug)

LOECHIN CHAT: " THE ACTIVATION HAS TAKEN PLACE, THE RATES ARE HIGH", 30 SEPTEMBER

[loechin @ 7:40 PM EDT] It's Sunday Night and I am sitting here listening to all the garbage that's out tonight. It seems like many of the so called guru's are again searching for answers or intel as to where the RV is. It is not tied to Obama Care, the debt ceiling, a shutdown or any other stupid thing like that.

 Our quest tonight is to find the truth, maybe the truth is not what we have been seeking but another date or a rate is the thing that most of us want. So if there is a delay, a hold up which by the way I think is not an issue then we need to look until the truth is revealed. 

Several weeks ago I told you the important people were in fact exchanging and most thought I was nuts but now it's out and everyone agrees. 


Now they say we are waiting on activation but the truth is the activation has taken place. So with that said the rates are high and no delays and people are exchanging then guess what.... WE ARE NEXT


[loechin] Nothing more to share guys....Great info from many today

[loechin] It sems to me people are telling and trying to tie the RV to whatever they can. Do you think the World is being held up because of Obama Care

[keiji] loechin I would like to think not but apparently the US has been holding this up...just sayin

[MichaelD] keiji yvw, process just has to play through

[oculaw] There always seem to be an RV hold up. Sryia, the budget, Obummer care, etc etc etc. At some point it should end and get this thing done

[sunshine8] YES... (grouphug) Dear SOON rich friends..per Tony and Okie...Obama did signed off since last Thursday...so the rv was on processing...It is coming...Please BE postive..Have faiths and focus to the RV...By God 's Graces..we are going to see our RV blessing..soon..very soon...(((((( RV...NOW )))) (grouphug)

[cruiser] lgtennis how r u holding up?

 [lgtennis] cruiser freakin tired lol …] Ok going to bed so tired and you guys keep the faith …all the love …lets us pray this is over

[psychicgrama] In eagle1 Post…who is paymaster? Is that like Ghostbusters looking for Keymaster?

[ASN] PaymasterFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search A paymaster is someone appointed by a group of investors or government to dispense commissions, fees or salaries within the private sector or public sector. Specific titles within the British government are Paymaster of the Forces, Paymaster-General and Paymaster of Pensions

[ASN] A paymaster is a neutral third party and has no knowledge of any particulars of the transaction. He handles the incoming commissions, and then disburses the funds accordingly. In return for his services the paymaster charges a small fee, which is paid directly to him out of the commission proceeds prior to disbursement

FlyingStar: -- the best I can say to you all - is that nothing bad has happened since Tony's last Blast - everything is still good -- and that alone is a great thing! You take it easy, and rest knowing that we are still on track. Ok?    Goodnight all.

TNT CHAT: "THIS WAS ABOUT TO GO DOWN", 30 SEPTEMBER

TNT:

TNT: Tony’s CC Monday 1PM EST”   Q & A  QUE 347-850-8289…  (RADIO)

LISTEN only   209-255-1500    NO CODE   ……

LISTEN only 518-556-1500 NO CODE

[crowell] Just in from TK................. i got a call at 245 am last night this morning from my ust person she told me to buckle my seat belt that this was about to go down she got a call that everything has been confirmed and ready to go

[chaseybear] so now what we wait till all banks are open and see what happens ???

[dinarfire] It was on dinarvets news. Looks like the dinar is going to stay the same until after 2013

 [dmsforall] dinarfire Do you know that Kuwait said the same thing the day before their currency revalued?
[dinarfaithful] If we are to have the RV today, it will happen anyway with the shutdown being used as a distraction IMO. It makes a good distraction because it could last for a few days

[DMAN7] I hope everyone in this chat room is doing something today to better your financial stability today. If we continue down the path of "its happening today" for another year - are you going to be OK? Stop believing the hype and get busy for yourself. This will happen - but truely no one knows when! We dont need to sit here all day waiting. Get to work on your future.....just in case! This is likely the best info you will get on the chat today. Think about this every day you wait on the dinar RV.

EAGLE1 POST, 30 SEPTEMBER

Post By Eagle1 » September 29th, 2013, 10:31 pm  •  [Post 96]  And a good Sunday Evening to all of you.

It's been awhile since I posted one of these updates, but I'm pleased to say that this one should be the last, pre-GCR!

As you all will have heard by now -- and especially those who have heard me comment on Frank's CC's -- the IMF took control of the GCR on September 5th. We've had many alerts since that date thinking that things were finished.

In fact, there have been a series of events which had to take place prior to the Global Currency Reset being released to the world.

We've talked about the necessity of funding things like the Alpha Fund, the Omega Fund, the Prosperity Packages and -- finally -- five UN projects.
  Without rehashing a lot of previous discussions, the various funds and packages represented multiplied trillions of dollars. The numbers are so high that it boggles the imagination.

The Omega Fund, for example, represented a series of investments backed by gold that the U.S. seized from the Nazis in 1945.

Nations were allowed to take advantage of this in order to plan for a prosperous day in their future that would make each of them debt-free with years of financial freedom.

The Prosperity Packages were enabled by the Omega Fund, and they totaled in excess of $25 Trillion alone.

The UN Projects were designed initially to provide unlimited financial capability to fund multiple research endeavors in order to provide some kind of normal life for the Wounded Warriors.

We've known for the past couple of weeks that the Omega Fund, the Alpha Fund and all of the Prosperity Packages had been taken care of, and the monies necessary to satisfy the requirements repatriated and properly disbursed.

What has been the last hang-up has been the final UN Project.

That project represented several trillion USD all by itself, and it has been under the watchful eye of a Federal Judge ever since several bank employees attempted to sidetrack it and utilize those funds for personal profit.

I received a telephone call on Friday night from an individual who works within the Federal Government, who also had participated in the last UN Project.

This individual informed me that the Paymaster for this project was on track to complete things by 11:00 PM Pacific, and that funds would be able to be seen in the respective bank accounts by Midnight.

I was assured that a telephone call or a text message would occur as soon as those funds were confirmed.

That call did not come until Saturday morning. I was advised that the project's Paymaster had completed things on schedule, funds were visible in each respective account, and a 72-hour hold was put on those funds pending the GCR going "live" Tuesday, October 1.

The reason for the 72-hour delay apparently lies in the fact that Panama has, for several decades, been using the USD as its currency in place of its old currency, the Panamanian Balboa.

I received a message from within the IMF that Panama had been in the process of preparing to restore the Balboa and dump the USD as its currency of trade. In order to accomplish that, Panama has been acquiring gold in order to provide asset backing.

Additionally, they had never installed the Babylon II software within their banking system. (BTW, the newly posted UN Operational Rates chart shows the Balboa at 1:1 with the USD.)

On Friday, all banking institutions in Panama shut down for a four-day period in order to complete the changeover of software.

That four-day period ends on Monday night at midnight, and Panama will be Basel III compliant in preparation for the GCR.

What this all means, folks, is that Tuesday looks like our payday! I have multiple contacts within banks who are saying that with the release of the GCR on Tuesday, they will be ready to do their exchanges on Wednesday. Does that mean we have to wait until Wednesday to do our exchanges?

That remains to be seen. I believe Frank has some updates that he will be able to share on Monday night's call.

It is my understanding, however, that where prior arrangements have already been made, people will be able to do their exchanges on Tuesday.

It really looks like we're there, folks! Praise God!  Eagle1

Sunday, September 29, 2013

12THMAN POST, 29 SEPTEMBER

12thman said:Please post alone: I just wanted to come in real quick and share what has been given to me as mid day today. Sorry for the late post on this info. 

I have returned from a very long yet productive weekend in Waco, Tx. I have received a call from the main HR saying that we still look good for Oct. 1st. 

He didn't give me to much info because he is waiting for his WF contacts to call him. Im in hopes he calls back this evening to let me know what he has found out. I will say he was excited about our chances. 

Now could it go past the 1st, yes it can ladies and gentelman. And, if it does, we all need to prepare our minds and hearts for the chance that it does. For many, being on this ride for so long, you probably will just shrug it off and say what's the next date.
But for many, the idea of another date to wait for is just to much to bear.

Therefore I say, seek The Lord now and ask Him to prepare your body, mind and heart if the ride continues. He is our strength when we are weak...our Hope when all has failed...we are close and with each new news tidbit or post from Okie etc, we see the puzzle coming together.

 Don't give up on the Father...He will bless us all soon and very x 8 soon. Ps...it's awesome how God sends fellow dinarians across my path. I had the opportunity and pleasure to meet a fellow believer and dinarian while at lunch in Waco. And your probably saying why is he telling us this...God has chosen each one of us to be a part of this great historical ride that will soon be over.

 He has a plan for each and everyone that will receive His heavenly blessing. It might be building a church, giving to the poor, feeding the hungry, taking care of our Vets, sending missionaries to foreign countries our going with me on a water well mission (Baylorman1).

But whatever it is, I pray you do what He calls you to do...that my friends is why we are to receive such wealth.

Not to buy the cars boats clothes etc...it's to do God's work to further His Kingsom.

OKIEOILMAN UPDATE, 29 SEPTEMBER

[..OkieOilMan] WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF POSSIBLE IMPLICATIONS RELEVENT TO THE CONTINUING RESOLUTION TO FUND THE GOVERMENT AND THE DEBATE ON A CLEAN BILL COMING OUT OF THE CONGRESS THAT IS PALATABLE TO THE SENATE. 

THE USA OFFICIALLY RUNS OUT OF MONEY ON OCT 17TH AND THE LAST TIME WE HAD A GOVERMENT SHUT DOWN WAS UNDER THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION FOR 17 DAYS.

 THERE SEEMS TO BE MORE CONTENTION AMONGST CONGRESS AND SENATE THAN THEY WERE THEN. IT IS ANYONE'S GUESS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THIS LOGGERJAM ISSUE WILL AFFECT THE R/V. REMEMBER THIS POINT IN HISTORY WHEN YOU VOTE FOR THE SENATORS IN 2014. 

THIS ENTIRE ISSUE PRESENTING ITSELF TO US IS ALL DUE TO "OBAMACARE" WHICH THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS OPPOSE. THE DEMOCRATIC SENATE MAJORITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR UPHOLDING THIS TRAIN WRECK. 

THE SHUTDOWN IF IT OCCURS---IT WILL HAPPEN AT MIDNIGHT TOMMOROW NIGHT. TODAY, WHILE THE CONGRESS IS SCRAMBLING TO PREVENT THIS TRAIN WRECK------THE SENATE IS NOT EVEN IN SESSION----

GOD BLESS AMERICA---OR WHAT AMERICA USED TO BE.

COUNTMILLIONS POST FROM TNT FORUM: RUMOR FROM IRAQI REGION, 29 SEPTEMBER

First of all, I want to thank Tony and Okie for their work and information.  I am new here, but I have been looking at a variety of different sites with the understanding that 95% of the information is conjecture or gossip from other sites.  Tony and Okie have pushed relentlessly to sift out as much of the BS that is out there.  We all have to understand that we believe a R/V is imminent, it's the when and how much that everyones up in arms about.  Well anyway thank you Tony and Okie and the others that are doing so much for us.

Now to the rumor I have heard,  I have 2 women who work for me that are from the Iraqi area.  The rest of their family lives in the area and communicate daily, with these two sisters.  They have stated that the Dinar in Iraq is increasing in value to the point now they cannot afford to travel back home with the amount of money they have.  It is all in USD.  When I told them  of the amount of IQD I have which is not that much. her eyes bugged out and she said "WOW You are very very rich man".

I asked her what the rate was there and she could not tell me a specific amount, but her family In Iraq is very happy with how things are moving there.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 29 SEPTEMBER

9-29-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   [when you say the bank is in control do you mean only WF?]  THE UST WILL ISSUE THE GO AHEAD CODE TO ALL THE BIG 5 BANKS THEN IT WILL FILTER DOWN FROM CORPORATE BANKS TO SUBSIDARIES.  [can you explain the difference in IQD vs. IQN & VNN? And why we are supposed to state IQN?]  THE DIFFERENCE IS THE AMOUNT YOU WILL RECEIVE UPON REDEMPTION--THE IQD IS TO BE EXCHANGED AT A MUCH LOWER RATE THAN THE IQN---SAME SCENARIO APPLIES THE THE VND
NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED AS THE VNN
.

9-29-2013  Newshound Guru Stryker  CAN YOU SAY POWER SHARING, I CAN!!!! Article Quote:  Maliki said "The session government next will cancel a number of
ministries and will switch its powers to local governments so those governments
willingness to work under those variables.
"  Power sharing is part of the Erbil
Agreement and the Agreed upon 7 points by Maliki & Barzani in April. Another sign that things are coming together nicely.

9-29-2013  Intel Guru TD    I've been silent to see how the last details (which are complex) would materialize (or not) and I'm happy to report positive news. All parties have agreed upon time frames, conditions are met and execution to be implemented. Can't give exact date but it's very close. Iraq is about to enter world markets in every financial way including currency being traded. You will like the return but I must tell you these rumors of $25 + are simply…unrealistic so keep yourself grounded and expectations realistic. Above all else your anxiety level about conclusion to this saga is a much needed relief to us all.

9-29-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   [okie do you see oct 2nd as a back wall
date?
]  NOPE--I WOULD HOPE BUT OCT 8TH IS ALSO IN PLAY--I AM NOT SURE THERE ARE SUCH A THING ANYMORE AS A BACK WALL---IT IS IMMENENT NOW.  [recently some people have said this could go to 2014, 2015, even 2016.
Do you see this going into 2014 or beyond
?]   WELL---I NEVER SAY NEVER---BUT THIS HAS  FOOLED ME MORE THAN ONCE. BUT---GIVEN ALL THE OCT 1ST. AGREEMENTS PROGRESSING NOW I DONT SEE IT GOING ON A GREAT DEAL LONGER.   THE 3 SIGNATURES NECESSARY FOR THIS TO PROCEED WAS ONLY OBTAINED LAST THURSDAY----AND NO---OBAMA CAN'T STOP IT NOW.  [post 3 of 3]

9-29-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    [One intel provider yesterday said that a contractor has exchanged internationally for 25.87. Can you also, verify this intel.YES LAST THURSDAY HALLIBURTON CONTRACTORS WAS PAID (ON THEIR CHECK) AT THE RATE OF 25.87---BUT---THERE WERE A 7 DAY HOLD PUT ON ALL BUT 3.44 PER DINAR ON THEIR CHECK WITH THE CAVEOT OF REMAINING AMOUNT DUE IN 7 DAYS.  [post 2 of 3….stay tuned]

9-29-2013  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   THIS WAS SCHEDULED LAST APRIL. 
BUT--THE LONGER IT HAS BEEN DELAYED HAS A POSITIVE EFFECT IN RELATION TO THE RATE. EVERYTIME IT WAS DELAYED THE RATE OF EXCHANGE ROSE, SO IN ESSENCE WE HAVE PROFITTED FROM IT. IT HAS RISEN DRAMATICALLY SINCE THEN [Is the 25.87 the rate you are hearing?]  YES THAT IS THE RATE THAT HAS BEEN ON THE BANK SCREENS FOR SEVERAL DAYS---THE RATE CAN BE CHANGED AT THE LAST MOMENT BUT THAT RATE IS SHOWING INTERNATIONALLY PRESENTLY.  EVERYONE NEEDS TO BEAR IN MIND THE PRESENT POSTED RATES ON THE SCREENS ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE UP UNTIL 2 MINUTES BEFORE GOING LIVE.  [post 1 of 3….stay tuned]

9-29-2013  Intel Guru TerryK   THE RV WHAT IM BEING TOLD IS SET FOR THIS WEEKEND STILL…RATES STILL HIGH WHAT IM HEARING.

9-29-2013   Intel Guru TNT Tony   I am still looking for this before the first of Oct.   All the news that I have received today still says that people have been paid at the rate of $25.87 (in Iraq and in D.C.).  
Your turn is coming

WINALOT POST: NEW IRAQI LOWER DENOMS, 29 SEPTEMBER

Note To Recaps From Winalot:


New 1/4, 1/2, and 1 Dinar notes. 


I believe these are new???  Please post and see if anyone can shoot em down!!! 


Remarks along with this picture were "good days"  "return good days"!!  Winalot
From Straight Talk Chat:

[dinarboat] Knock, Knock. Anyone in here see an RV?

[WINALOT] i just found pictures of the lower denoms!!!!!!!! 1/4, 1/2, and 1 dinar!!!!

 [Shawnieb] WINALOT where did you see the photos?

[WINALOT] i sent to recaps... They should have posted shortly

[WINALOT] Shawnieb i found them online watch for them on recaps

[WINALOT] wheels the 1/2 dinar is tan….the new one

[wheels] WINALOT from what i have heard the lower notes were printed same time as the large, just not released

[WINALOT] wheels would not surprise me at all anyway... here's hoping I got it right! Lol  ok... gotta run.... enjoy!! we gotta be close!!!

EXOGEN UPDATE: PREPARE FOR RV, 29 SEPTEMBER

Stage2Omega:

 STAGE2OMEGA RESPONSE TO GURU BASHING!!!!  FROM stage2omega TO You 

99.9% OF THE PEOPLE BASHING WOULD NOT EVEN KNOW HOW TO EXCHANGE, WHAT TO SAY AT BANKS, KNOW WHEN THE RATE GOES LIVE, BE EDUCATED ABOUT THIS INVESTMENT, KNOW ABOUT MULTI CURRENCY ACCOUNTS, BROKERAGE ACCOUNTS WHAT BANKS TO EXCHANGE AT, BANK RATES OR ANY OF THAT WERE IT NOT FOR GURU'S.

IT'S TIME YOU TELL THEM THANK YOU!!!

THEY SPEND HOURS OF TIME AWAY FROM FRIENDS AND FAMILY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PREPARE FOR RV!!!!      EXO

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TONY: 1000% ACCURATE INFORMATION….OUR INTEL SOURCES MATCH ALL IN THE BLAST

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK TONY!!!!!!!!!  YOU ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB...........

DO NOT LET THE NEGATIVE PEOPLE DISTRACT YOU

THE BANK & IT INFRASTRUCTURE INFO IS ON POINT…WE HAVE CONFIRMED THE EXCHANGES LAST WEEK TOO

NOTE: TNT DINAR MEMBERS ARE SOME OF THE LIVEST MOST POSITIVE. COOLEST, GROOVY PARTY PEOPLE IN IQD   LAND....................

PREPARE FOR RV!!!    EXO

30M BACKD UP TONY'S INFO, 29 SEPTEMBER

30M Backs up Tony’s Info: Pretty much what Tony was
talking about! 


9-28-13 30M:   I want to explain a little more in detail now what I could not explain last night. Last night in my update I said I can’t go into details right now but we need to make a careful, calculated decision when exchanging.I found out that Obama had instituted a 9% tax.

Bottom line is we’re going to have to make a calculation when we’re going into a particular rate for our exchange.I’m hearing there may be a cutoff amount for the return that may be counted as an investment.

Depending on the amount you’re exchanging you may have to take a lesser rate in exchange for not having it considered an investment.The amount could be the trigger – not certain, but we’re looking into. I want you to know you may not want to run in and demand the highest rate possible and then get hit with more taxes.

There may be a threshold where some of what we have is considered an investment.
Before we get all excited, let’s relax and wait for additional information to develop. What you call it when you go in (exchange or investment) has nothing to do with it. What is being talked about right now is a threshold that puts you into the investment category based on the amount you exchange, not what you call it. We don’t have that last piece of information with the rate. I’m hearing from multiple sources that is being worked out right now.

We’ve got to know the spread (low end/high end for the rate) and what is that magical dollar amount that might move us into the investment category.  

TONY BLAST TONIGHT, 29 SEPTEMBER

TONY BLAST TONIGHT

I am still looking for this before the first of Oct. All the news that I have received today still says that people have been paid at the rate of $25.87 (in Iraq and in D.C.).  Your turn is coming. Now that's all the good news there is sense I did the call yesterday.

It seems like every weekend, this board just goes crazy.  There is always someone willing to tell you that their intel is better than anyone else's and that they are the only one who possibly know everything that is going on.

I always tell you to gather as much info as you can and then fill in the missing pieces of your puzzle (this requires that you do a little work on your own and to use some common sense).  No one knows 100% what is going on.  Everyone gets pieces.

I get pieces from all around the globe, 3 letter agencies, boots on ground (here and Iraq), banking contacts in 5 different countries, politicians, call centers and cashout centers and a host of others.

Now if you think for one second that the entire world has gotten together and said let's all tell Tony a bunch of lies, so that he can tell everyone on his call, YOU ARE AN IDIOT (the mods will kick you out if you use this word).

First of all, I am not that important and second of all you are not that important to the PTB, that they have to devise a world wide conspiracy plan for you.  I have told you several times and you should know that if they didn't want you to have this money, they would have changed the rules a long time ago.  But believe what you want.

Now for the last couple of years, I have brought you information days and weeks ahead of some others, yet they have the nerve to questions my sources.  There are members (haters in disguise) who have come here not because they want to hear what I have to say, but just to cause a problem or to disrupt the harmony that we have as a team.

You know who they are or can find out by checking on all of the post that they have made.  We know where most of them have come from, which once again is mind boggling, they didn't want us over there and yet they keep coming over here.

Guys don't let them upset your weekend.  The mods are watching and a plan of action is in motion. You will see the results tomorrow.

As far as challenging my information, that's ok, but calling me a liar (no matter how it is disguised) will not be tolerated by my wife (she's making me do this update).

Guys I think it is ok to have open discussion, I think you are adult enough that no matter who comes over to our site to post, you will figure out who is telling the truth and who is trying to slowly manipulate you.  I see some of you doing and pointing out the facts for others, but it is up to them to see it for themselves.

I have constantly been trying to give you hints of things to look for in peoples character that exposes who they are.  I am hoping that I am doing the right thing, because as soon as the RV is announced you will need this super power,

So let me answer some of these questions that you have regarding the latest information.

"1)president has given his final signature – How many times have we heard this before? How many times must he signoff? This is funny since we are told that this is out of Iraq’s hands since they signed off. How many times must Iraq signoff? I do not take any of this information with any legitimacy.

Well first of all I have confirmed through the agencies in D.C., that this did in fact happen Thursday evening.  Has this ever happened before, yes.  Was it revoked,yes.  Did I already tell you that it takes 3 signatures to accomplish this, yes.

Has Iraq signed off, yes.  Was it revoked, no.  Do we need them to signoff again, no.  They are not in charge and have not been for quite sometime.  Why someone would want you to think that Iraq could be in charge one week and the U.S. the next and then back to Iraq and back to the U.S. makes no sense to me at all.  


We now know that the UN took a vote on Friday and announced that Iraq was now out of Chapter 7, we know this morning that there was a news article welcoming Iraq into the WTO.  If I was you, I would look up those qualifications (you might be surprised at what you see).  If Iraq was in charge of the RV, there would have been a public announcement by now.

2)private exchanges of the iqd/iqn have been completed in the last 24 hours in the u.s.a. by invitation only for select individuals – Really? I am simply amazed that they would still even be bold enough to tell us this. How many times have we heard this before?

We have heard several times that private exchanges have taken place and that people have received skrs.  We have even heard that cards were loaded in Iraq and have received confirmation from boots on the ground.  

What we have not heard in the past but are now hearing from contractors in Iraq and from privilaged people in D.C., is that they have received or participated in a currency exchange which started late Thursday night and into Friday at the rate of $25.87.  

As of Friday evening this was stopped, due to the fact that the public announcement was not made as scheduled.

3)technical issues, correct rates not showing up in all the banks again. But we are told there are no more technical issues over and over again. Sorry once again I think this is just stalling. I do not believe that after all the testing they did on this technical process there are still issues in this area. Even after they had a clean run last weekend?. Were we being simply lied to.

I clearly stated earlier in the week that all the technical issues had been removed and that the banking systems was ready to go.  I even told you about them catching those who were trying to manipulate it for personal gain.  

On the call I explained to you the new security system that was put in Thursday night.  I even explained to you how it was put in a region at a time and why they did it this way.  If someone has better info ask them to please share.

4)We are waiting for the 800/888 number so we can call in to make appointments.
Why would the exchange centers and calling centers be manned and ready for almost a year now if there has been and is no one to call in and make an appointment? In fact this is the latest reason for the activation hold up. I just do not believe this.

They have been manning banks and call centers since Feburary.  Don't forget guys this was supposed to happen in April.  They had the basis for the rollout to take place, but the closer they got to actully having to do this, the more they realized that they weren't ready.  

This plan has been just like the RV itself (changed many times).  As groups changed lately and the playing field has now been leveled amongst the banks, the rollout system had to be revamped.  

I know some of you think you know what it takes to complete this, but you don't.  We are not talking about you calling AT&T and saying I need 5 800#s for my company and them running by Monday (which would not happen).

  We are talking about the UST issuing out new numbers to each bank.  We are talking about each one of those banks then having to setup their call centers to process you according to their unique procedures.  There is a whole lot more involved in this then you think.


Here's a good example from one of our members:
10:18 PM [psychicgrama] I ust got off the phone with a very interesting man who explainedto me some of what is going on with 800#. What I found out was this, they had to wait until every state & territory of the US was closed & ready to test. He said this happens with a lot of companies who set up 800 numbers.

This situation is special because of security & timing. Once Hawaii, puerto rico etc were all closed down, the they have to test everyting for continuity & connectivity, its tested once, twice, so on & so on. once they arre convinced it is "live" then they turn it on & make sure it is going to stay on they make calls into the system, do transfer calls from all the satelLite banks etc.

Once it is a solid working phone setup they turn everything on & sit & wait to make surethere are no "bugs" then run security taps etc. When all of that is done it will go live. I only trust this man cause he works for the GOV. Hes not personally involved but know what has to happen. Dont be surprised if this just shows up at any time"

5)The macros in software used by operators in call in centers to manage appointments had to be revised. We were told that the centers were manned and ready for almost a year now so why all of a sudden now that when they want to activate the rates (and with such urgency so we are told) that they only now went back to revisit this call-in process when they have to us it? …and found the problems? What the heck have they been doing for the last year? Who designed and tested this software? I do not believe this could be so messed up and so incompetent. Sorry!"

See above answer.

The sad part about this blast, is the fact that I had to do it at all.  This is information that I've told you all week long and none of it has changed.  One person came on here and gave you their opinon of what they think is going on.  They explained to you how they interpreted some articles in Iraq newspapers and what they think needs to be accomplished in order for you to see the RV. 

While I respect everyones opinon, I don't necessarily agree with everything they say.  I know for a fact that most of the things they are waiting on to be accomplished, have already been accomplished, they are just waiting to be made public.  They will not be made public until the RV is announced.

So, I can say this one more time.  I feel that I have some of the best connections/resources available.  I fully 100% trust their information or I wouldn't be passing it on to you. 

I do get information at times that completes my puzzle a little more than yours, but you have to know by now that the only reason I don't pass it on is because of their security.  I know we are ahead of most on receiving intel and that is most of the problem with those that disagree.

We also know from experience that they do catch up, but we never hear them come back and say.......oh yeah, they were right.  It really doesn't matter though, because we don't need it.  All we need is the RV...

Let them laugh now and tell you that we don't know what we are talking about, it's ok, this is not a competition (not to us anyway).  When the end comes you will know who knew, who was just guessing and who was just trying to manipulate you for their own purpose.

Don't be surprised to see some familiar faces depart this site.