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Tuesday, December 31, 2013

STEVE UPDATE, 31 DEC

Hi everyonehandshake.gif,
Just another short update from across the pond about the normal banks looking at foreign currency. 
As all systems go to speed everythingsprint.gif in to the New Year I thought that I would nip into my main city branch of the Nat West where I have a couple of accounts. I went in at about 1.35pm GMT ( 8.35am EST USA ) & checked on the present rate for the Kuwait & Iraq currency to see if there was any movement. I use the Kuwait Dinar as a control element & at today's rate there is no change as it still shows KWD 0.44 to £1 so I need to give them £2.27 ( approx $3.68 ) to get KWD1. The Iraqi Dinar is still showing on the PC screens at 0.0000 which at least means it is recognised but still not a tradeable currency internationally yet.
Let's just wait & see what happens over the next few days with the info we have obtained. If something clicks & it becomes international over the New Year then maybe on Jan 2nd something will show up & we shall all be happysmile.gif & have something to celebrateparty.gif.
All the very best to you all,
Steve

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 31 DEC

12-31-2013   Newshound Guru Tlar     ...the planning for this project is complete and is just waiting for the proper environment and timing to be implemented.  The CBI has worn out this discussion and has come to a conclusion of what's the right way to do this.  The time for these kinds discussions on how to do it, are way past.  Even the value has been predetermined.  It's the when to do it is the only unknown to the CBI, and I think that there is a good probability that may be resolved too. We just won't know that until it happens.     [post 2 of 2]

12-31-2013   Newshound Guru Tlar
   Article:  "Experts: Delete the zeros project needs to be catalysts for success"  The CBI has been planning this since 2007.  They have targeted it to be done no less than three times since 2009, probably more.  I feel sure that the debate of how this is to be done has long since been resolved and that they have made a final decision.  The timing has been the issue and since 2010 has been described as the bank was waiting on government cooperation to start the project.  Even that issue as of late seems to be resolved...the delays have not been that simplistic and that there are many factors that have caused this project to be delayed...  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]


12-31-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   The new rate that will be inserted must be one that satisfies article 8 compliance, most notabley the consistency with neighbors like Kuwait. As such, a rate in the range of $3.00 PLUS is expected...I AM LOOKING FOR FURTHER CONFIRMATION...THIS INFORMATION MAKES ABSOLUTE AND COMPLETE SENSE TO ME AND FALLS RIGHT IN LINE WITH...OTHER NEWS BEING PRINTED TODAY.  [post 3 of 3]

12-31-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3
   The IQD is currently on a rate of 1166 THAT WOULD NEVER BE ACCEPTED.  When the program rate is removed, the value will be zero. Thus, a new rate must be inserted to make it a legitimate accepted currency. They used this as an argument against those who claim that the rate will be allowed to float up from 1166.  [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

12-31-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3
   WOW...I GOT PERMISSION TO SHARE SOME INFORMATION WITH YOU...---I heard some SOURCE INFORMATION that said the BIS said last week that they'll use the IQD in their 2014 budget and they are CALLING the IQD an asset. Historically, at an 1166 rate the IQD is not an asset, but a liability. They commented that the BIS wouldn't have made this comment if the RV were not imminent. I have not seen the BIS article statements or comments but I trust the people who have informed me.  [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

12-31-2013   Newshound Guru Millionday
   will they begin with all trade and open it entirely?  they have said yes.  [So do the tariff's mean anything for the RV?]  no but trade does  the tariff is done by percentages...   they are not going to open trade without a reality rate  --  thats right.  [So trade is planned for the 2nd as well?]  we have no ink that says rv on the second but  we have trade on the 2nd.  now think of this...how can they trade at this rate -- they cant,  it will wipe them out and on top of that they have been ordered to apply their reality rate.   they will not trade in USD for a while because their budget is in dinar.

12-31-2013   Newshound Guru tlm724
    Article:  "Kurdistan region terminate agreements budget in Baghdad"   this week as part of the start of the meetings of the joint committee, which agreed to set up last week to end disputes the federal budget for the year 2014...which agreed last week to find solutions to them through the joint committee.   HCL!
12-31-2013   Intel Guru BWM   there’s a lot of folks hanging their hats on the 1st and things happening but as I have stated last week there is some misunderstood information on what they are basing that date on (just like they did the 28th).  As usual, I’m hoping to be wrong but the best information that I am getting is saying no expectations for RV this week…we’ll see what next weekend brings us.

TNT CHAT UPDATE, 31 DEC

TNT:

 [Firefly] The Gazette clearly states the Tarriff law will be in effect on Thursday Jan 2nd 2014

 [bp34] Firefly - don't they have to have a tradeable currency for that

 [fuldon35] The tariffs sound more concrete to me, no matter what US does it is a step in the final direction.

[bananna hands] why cant you have a tarriff at the current rate?

[jaya44a] The 2nd is just around the corner... I'm waiting to see what happens.

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] bananna hands Because you would have an overnight 20% increase in inflation for almost all foreign goods, and since Iraq doesn't manufactur squat, that 20% will go be paid immediately by the general public. If you raise the rate to say, 3.44, that gives the typical Iraqi 3x greater purchasing power, thus overcoming the effects of the tariff.
[mike1422] Austin-Powers-For-PM fols are saying that Iraq is out of money... do you think that the tarrifs will help with the cash crunch

 [wycoffjul] bananna hands This is what Poppy3 said in the forum post if it helps: without the rate change the hcl, tariff and bonds where all useless. They can't produce cash flow without value.

 [Austin-Powers-For-PM] bananna hands Imagine if just about everything here in the States (except food) instantly became 20% more expensive without an associated pay raise. There would be massive discontent in our society. Now take that to Iraq where when they get mad they just start blowing things up and it would make for a very nasty environment.

 [Austin-Powers-For-PM] mike1422Tariffs are designed to help local maufactures work on a level playing field so that they can get themselves up to speed. Tariffs can certainly provide more money to the government, but I don't know if it will be a major part of eliminating their cash crunch.

[mike1422] Austin-Powers-For-PM ok ty

[bananna hands] vietnam has done okay at 20k to 1. this just confuses me

[Firefly] bananna hands True, BUT VN has tradeable currency, Iraq to date has not

 [Austin-Powers-For-PM] bananna hands Totally different senario from Iraq. They artifically inflated their currency to make everything there as cheap as possible so as to attract manufacturers to assemble their products in Vietnam. However you can't use that strategy forever and at some point your currency has to reflect your reality.

 [Firefly] Their release of chapter vii is the only factual evidence I have that their currency must go international

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] Firefly My understanding is that one of the contingent factors in their release from Chapter 7 (not published of course) was that they had to make their currency international no later than January 1st, 2014 or be subject to going back under Chap. 7. Now everybody thought they'd do it wayyyyy before January 1st, but as normal, they and the PTB's have taken this all the way out to right now.

[Moonchild] Austin-Powers-For-PM so you think that the RV will be tomorrow?

 [Firefly] Austin-Powers-For-PM from my understanding you would be correct !

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] Moonchild Well if we look at the tarriffs going into effect the morning of January 2nd over in Iraq, I would have to think that they are looking at releasing this sometime late tomorrow.......but that is purely my speculation.

I4U CHAT UPDATE, 31 DEC

I4U:

[nolaspice] HEY EVERYONE -ITS NEW YEARS EVE!!!!!!!!

[nolaspice] I wish I had magic wand. It would make everyone love being alive as much as I do! It would sprinkle gratitude dust and laughter glitter! My wish for the coming year for us all - that we find a way to feel as hopeful and optimistic each day as we do on New Years Eve! Sending out love to all my amazing friends! Life really is what we make it, so how about making your's fantabulous!

[vic406] (RUMOR) OK I did not want to repeat if all ready known but as of a couple of hours ago I was told that maliki was taken into custody and resigned his power to the military yes its all over aljazera and other Arabic services just got the call from my Jordanian friend

[mbillions] vic406 what is the status on Maliki hon?

[vic406] Millions he has not called back yet but if you give a couple I will shoot him a call

[bailey2..] vic406 I appreciate that

[vic406] So here's the update it seems they focusing on the forty some odd pm,s that walked away from there posts and alwani as well as m giving his authority to the military

[mbillions] vic406 hmmmm I wonder when it will hit mainstream media...

[Stash] I have been watching Iraqi TV and have seen nothing abt that

[mbillions] Stash Stash hmmmm
[vic406] He's always been acuarate but like I said this is what he's getting on TV in Jordan so time delay not wanting to get abroad who knows as soon as I get more I will let ya know

[Papa Bear] Folks I have been asked what effect Malilkas arrest has on our RV .My answer is none because this is a GCR however I would be quick to add if he has been arrested and relinguished power it is good for Iraq and its people.He has kept the pot stirred

MIG CHAT WITH HUB UPDATE, 31 DEC

MIG:

[timo] Never slap a man who's chewing tobacco.

[timo] Never kick a new cow pat on a hot day.

[timo] There are 2 theories to arguing with a woman...neither works.

[timo] Never miss a good chance to shut up.

[timo] If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.

[timo] The quickest way to double your money is to fold it and put it back in your pocket.

[timo] There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves.

[timo] After eating an entire bull, a mountain lion felt so good he started roaring. He kept it up until a hunter came along and shot him. The moral: When you're full of bull, keep your mouth shut.

[timo] The older we get, the fewer things seem worth waiting in line for.

[timo] Long ago when men cursed and beat the ground with sticks, it was called witchcraft. Today it's called golf ......

BLUWOLF POST, 31 DEC

From Bluwolf The last day of the year

Today is the last day of this year, a lot of strain and hurt will expire with its passing, a lot of joy and prosperity shall be embraced with the new year, all hurdles will be matched and overcomed, there will be justice, health, peace and joy scattered to all by the Hands of Jehova and He shall see to it that we all get gratified by our power of faith.

 May you have a most wonderful and Happy New Year close to the ones you love is my most sincere thoughts on my behalf and my family.  Be well, stay safe and just say "IMBUTU"  I exist because of you.

 Lord I declare prosperity upon all, I see all Your works being done, I see all inclined in you managing their incomes wisely (1%) and I see all that are not losing everything within a years time (99%). 

Lord please lead your people guide them through all storms ahead, let them see your calming light, inspire them and keep to your promise of rewarding them and all their generations for them doing Your works. FELIZ AÑO NUEVO, QUE MI DIOS LOS BENDIGA A TODOS. Shala Na'maste Bluwolf

JCR UPDATE FROM TNT FORUM, 31 DEC

12/30/2013 JCR said ---I SAID THAT WHEN THAT HAPPENS THINK OF IT AS THE END OF YOUR WORRIES, END OF YOUR DEBTS AND END OF YOUR SORROWS....WELCOME THE NEW YEAR ANS YOUR NEW JOURNEY WITH THE RV HERE AND THE BLESSINGS YOU WILL HAVE JCR said,,,WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE 800#S AND MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, WILL HAVE THEM BY MORNING...SINCE TOMORROW IS A SHORT BANKING DAY...WE MAY START THE NEW YEAR WITH A VERY BIG BAN

Monday, December 30, 2013

TONY CONFERENCE CALL TODAY, 30 DEC

Tony conducted a two and a half hour conference call this morning starting at 10:00 AM PST, including about 90 minutes of Q&A. Tony’s Washington contact “DC” was present for the first portion of the call and contributed some explanatory remarks.
Tony opened by saying that a lot of good information has been received, the roller coaster ride is almost over, and that we are still hoping for the RV to be activated today. The next call should be about beginning the next phase of our lives, and how we can begin to live the “good life”.
There are some changes in the way things will be done during and after the currency exchange process, some of which cannot be discussed during this call.
At this point Tony commented on his preference to deal with ideas rather than administrative details, emphasizing his record of integrity in his dealings and his ability to keep his purpose and his goals in focus. He noted that there are dinar sites out there criticizing TNT, yet no other site is providing reliable information concerning the RV/CE processes. He remarked yet again that the work he does in TNT, for which he did not volunteer, requires an enormous amount of personal sacrifice on his part, and on the part of the staff and their families, and that he would not wish his job on anybody.
Moving into a description of the RV situation as it stands as of this morning/afternoon – Tony stated that there is no negative news, there are no further deals to be made or agreements to be signed, everybody is cued up, including the banks, the IMF and the UST. Enhanced security arrangements are in place, and call centers are being manned full time in order to avoid providing timing clues triggered by call center activation. Exchange centers will be manned only after the 800 numbers are released.
There are some bankers who want this to happen right now, others who would prefer to wait until after January 1. However the banks don’t control the timing – that will be determined by the IMF, which will then give the OK to the UST to release the 800 numbers.
There is confirmation that the bond sale in Iraq was concluded incorporating a dollar exchange rate of $3.71.
Many contracts are in place in Iraq for economic development projects which must commence immediately after the first of the year. Payments on these contracts must be made at the new rate. As DC put it – “the cost of playing poker is becoming unacceptably high” (for those who might wish to further delay this process).
The WTO audit took place over the weekend and was completed successfully.
With respect to the “three zero” notes – DC explained that the process of removing these high-denomination notes from circulation has been going on for two years and is not directly correlated with the timing of the RV.
As it stands now, based on the best information available, there will be a single 800 number specific to each available contract rate for the IQN and the VNN. (It is not clear if the IQN/VNN tiered contract rates will be paired.) Each rate will be associated with a specific NDA and with specific but unspecified restrictions. The nature of these restrictions will not be known until the release of the 800 numbers. The latest NDA information indicates that there are thirteen different versions of the NDA currently in play, although it is not clear that all of these versions will be used.
Once having selected the desired contract rate, and upon calling the respective 800 number, the individual dinar/dong holder will be asked to select the bank at which an appointment is desired for the currency exchange. He/she will also be asked to provide the amount of the respective currencies on hand as well as appropriate personal information. The manner in which reserve/lay-away currency will be handled is not yet known. Currency holders seeking to exchange at a contract rate will be required to provide proof of U.S. citizenship. Tony does not believe that using the proceeds of a VNN currency exchange to pay off dinar reserves will be considered “double dipping”.
Oil credits are the basis for the high contract rates, as well as a vehicle for recapture of the costs of the Iraq war. The U.S. co-operation with respect to the China contract rate is based on the fact that China does not have internal petroleum reserves in ground, and that it is in the interests of the U.S. to assist China in securing long-term petroleum supplies.
In response to a question concerning the delay of the RV from its anticipated activation last week, Tony stated that a number of officials have been removed, retired, resigned and even arrested since last Tuesday.
Tony reiterated that all four currencies (dinar, dong, zim, and rupiah) should reset simultaneously, and that the rates remain consistent with previous rate information.
In closing, Tony stated that he is looking for the RV announcement soon. It could be today, tonight, or tomorrow. Everything known at this point is positive for the RV. Rather than concerning ourselves with the exact timing of the RV, we should be focusing on what we will need to be doing, what exact sequence of actions we will need to take, when the RV is announced.
He stated that he expected that the next TNT call would be the one following the RV announcement.
 
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 [NOTE: EVERY EFFORT HAS BEEN MADE TO REPORT ACCURATELY THE SUBSTANCE OF TONY’S REMARKS, IF NOT THE ACTUAL WORDS FROM MY NOTES. IF ANY ERRORS OR SIGNIFICANT OMISSIONS HAVE BEEN MADE, I WILL MAKE CORRECTIONS AS APPROPRIATE BASED ON COMMENTS POSTED.]

END OF CALL WRAP UP FROM TONY, 30 DEC

TODAY, TONIGHT, TOMORROW, ANY MOMENT NOW THE WHOLE THING COULD CHANGE AND WE COULD BE RIGHT BACK HERE

EVERYTHING ON EVERY LEVEL IS POSITIVE INFO

COULD SOMETHING HAPPEN TODAY... SURE IT CAN

DO I HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE I WANT TO PUT THIS, DO I HAVE SOMEBODY I CAN TALK TO WHEN I GET THAT RV CALL AND THE PROCEDURES ARE LAID OUT SO I CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND IT

IF I HAVE TO GO SOMEWHERE, I PLAN ON GOING SOMEWHERE, I'D BE CHECKING THOSE THINGS OUT NOW, SEE WHAT THE AVAILABILITY IS

GOD WILLING THIS WILL BE OUR LAST CALL BEFORE THE RV

ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY AND HOPEFULLY I'LL TALK TO YOU LATER. ...
I WANT TO SAY IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE, WELL NOT ALWAYS BUT IT'S BEEN A JOURNEY AND WE ARE HERE

PAM: AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED WE'RE JUST WAITING ON THE 800 #S. HANG ON EVERYBODY WE'RE ALMOST HOME

RAY: IN THE WORDS OF SMOKEY ROBINSON, REALLY GONNA MISS YOU!
ENJOY YOUR DAY GUYS

EXOGEN UPDATE, 30 DEC

AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE NUMEROUS WAYS DINARIANS
IN THE KNOW WILL MAXIMIZE THE INVESTMENT AND WALK AWAY
WITH ULTRA MEGA GIGANTIC WINFALLS JUST LIKE HEDGE FUNDS
AND INVESTMENT BANKERS WILL DO AT EXCHANGE.  (HINT HINT)

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 30 DEC

12-30-2013   Intel Guru TerryK   I GOT A CALL THIS MORNING...TOLD TO STAND BY.  THREE SOURCES KINDA AGREE ON THE TIMING...TODAY, TONIGHT, SOMETIME SOON.

12-30-2013   Newshound Guru Bondlady
     this is what we needed to see and let the dinar grow in value as the economy explodes into great things the dinar rises rapidly as well as inflation so the dinar needs to rise along with the economy to control and curb inflation.  They need the people to fall in love once again with the dinar! But how?   make the dinar value as much or more than the dollar or move it in that direction, show the people good things are coming by moving the exchange rate so the people will have pride in their currency and not OURS!   [post 2 of 2]

12-30-2013   Newshound Guru Bondlady
   Article:  "Announced the parliamentary Economic Committee, for the government to apply the customs tariff on goods from next Thursday"  think they [are] calling for a 2 day holiday also when it begins, Wednesday and Thursday, new years eve and new years day. To mark a new year and great things to come for them and for us imo.   ...every thing will be taxed EXCEPT for FOOD.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

12-30-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3
    THEY CAN SELL BONDS ALL DAY BUT WITHOUT A RATE THEY ARE WORTHLESS.  AT PRESENT THEY HAVE BEEN EXCHANGED FOR FUTURES ON OIL.  THE BONDS SALES WILL NOT PRODUCE ANY CASH FLOW WITHOUT A NEW RATE ON THE DINAR.  I HAVE HEARD UNCONFIRMED NEWS THAT THE BONDS WHERE TO BE RATED AT $2.66 SO THAT THEY WOULD SELL OUT FAST AND RAISE HUGE CAPITAL FOR IRAQ ECONOMY AND ONCE THE MAJORITY OF THEM WERE SOLD THEN THE EXCHANGE RATE WOULD RISE VERY QUICK TO THE NOMINAL RATE. TIME WILL TELL.

12-30-2013   Newshound Guru Bondlady
    there seems to be a frenzy of things being done to secure Iraq as it edges into the new year, why now?  why didn't they go all in before now?  Big changes coming thats why and it requires stability in every way...as they need to add value to a crushed dinar but they needed these things to happen first and we're seeing it all come about every single day!  They are serious and want to show and portray a NEW IRAQ to the rest of the world!   [post 2 of 2] [See possible “to do list” in the DinarGuru resource bar on the left]

12-30-2013   Newshound Guru Bondlady
   when Shabibi was the CBI governor...He said he needed GOI cooperation and all to work together as a team and security. So you see them all working or most of them working for the same goal here, security and the government has giving the CBI and Turki their blessing to move the economy forward per the dinar!   as Iraq goes into the new year they will go international with the World Bank and IMF and WTO support and help...making the CBI able to deal in a huge way also in international banking but they must kick terror out of Iraq.  

MORE DINAR GURUS UPDATE OF 29 DEC, 30 DEC

12-29-2013   Intel Guru TerryK   TALKED TO ONE OF MY SOURCES TODAY AND SHE SAID TONIGHT OR TOMORROW IS WHAT IT WAS PUSHED OUT TO.  I ASKED WHY.  SHE SAID MORE BAD GUYS BEING ARRESTED.  I'M REALLY EXICTED ON THE NEWS I GOT TONIGHT BUT I'M NOT GOING INTO DETAIL.   JUST BE READY.

12-29-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3
    MALIKI IS RUNNING OUT OF TIME...AND THE COUNTRY IS REPORTEDLY OUT OF MONEY TO OPERATE, NO DOLLAR RAISING AUCTIONS AND THE BOND SALES BEING HELD BECAUSE OF NO BACKING?   NOW WE SEE MOVEMENT, AMAZING THINGS THAT MANY PEOPLE MYSELF INCLUDED THOUGHT WOULD NEVER SEE HAPPEN. (MALIKI GIVING GROUND). IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT FURTHER ACTIONS WILL TAKE PLACE WITHIN THE NEXT 48 HOURS.   

12-29-2013   Intel Guru TD
    
 Something significant is lining up
. While I remain cautiously optimistic, the next few days remain quite possible for numerous agenda items to be carried out...I was told that the economists and accountants want programs & policies to be executed during the beginning of the fiscal year.  Whether buttons will be pushed Jan 1st (or thereabout) or Feb 1st. I can't really say.  Again, be grounded but news I received today (yes, rumors) are indeed positive.  [post 2 of 2]

12-29-2013   Intel Guru TD
  
 THE STARS MAY BE LINING UP IN OUR FAVOR!  OK , Well some very positive news coming out through my Amigo who confirms that:   1) The postponement of the Bond sales was temporary and it JUST MAY happen sooner than later. Can't verify any rates, etc. 2) "Payment systems" through electronic banking, smart cards, etc. have been tested for efficiency and ready to go.  3) As we saw M [Maliki] had another temper tantrum and arrested an opposition MP.  Then , just 24 hours later was released.  This "RELEASE" is not by mistake as M had tremendous pressure caving in on him...   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned] 

12-29-2013   Intel Guru TNT Tony  
 I forgot to tell you guys that the bonds did pre-sell at the rate of $3.71 according to Iraq sources. This rate can change when it goes international.  Also, Iraq library of law is on record as of today saying that the qui cards will go international Jan 1, 2014 and that the tariff  laws will be in effect on Jan 2, 2014.  It  says there  will be a rise in the dinar on Jan 1, 2014.   This is also in their gazette, its public knowledge.  It is now in black and white.  None of this can happen unless the dinar is international.

12-29-2013   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   ALL THE PREREQUISITES BEING FINALIZED INDICATES ALL THE HAGGLING IS OVER AND THOSE COUNTRIES WHO HAVE CONTINUALLY CHANGED THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND WISH LIST HAS BEEN PACIFIED. THE RATES ARE SO MUCH MORE THAN EVER EVEN CONTEMPLATED IT IS ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE.  [post 2 of 2]

12-29-2013   Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man
   WELL IT APPEARS AT THIS TIME WE ARE SO VERY CLOSE TO THE END OF THE JOURNEY THAT I CAN SEE THE END OF THE TRAIL. WITH SO MUCH ACCOMPLISHED THESE LAST FEW DAYS WE SHOULD EXPECT (EXPECT) TO SEE OUR GOAL REACHED VIRTUALLY ANY MOMENT NOW.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

12-29-2013   Intel Guru TNT Tony
   new rate for the tariffs coming out Jan 2 was announced at 3.44 / USD.  Banks were double staffing last night with security...armored cars on standby with the escort vehicles. I am sure there is more info out there and I am sure that I will get more on my evening calls.  If it is what we have been waiting for I'll back with another blast...let's hope that this time they let the process complete itself.   [post 2 of 2]

12-29-2013   Intel Guru TNT Tony
   I received plenty of good news yesterday and earlier this morning.  So let me share some of it with you.  Rates should show live in the US on Monday, they are high...   UST released to fed reserve.   Fed Res released to 12 Regional banks to push to their member banks....Fed Res has 12 Regional banks thru the US.   It's at the corp level waiting for push to branches.  UST does not communicate directly to banks.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

POPPY3 POST, 30 DEC

12-30-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    THEY CAN SELL BONDS ALL DAY BUT WITHOUT A RATE THEY ARE WORTHLESS.  AT PRESENT THEY HAVE BEEN EXCHANGED FOR FUTURES ON OIL.  THE BONDS SALES WILL NOT PRODUCE ANY CASH FLOW WITHOUT A NEW RATE ON THE DINAR.  I HAVE HEARD UNCONFIRMED NEWS THAT THE BONDS WHERE TO BE RATED AT $2.66 SO THAT THEY WOULD SELL OUT FAST AND RAISE HUGE CAPITAL FOR IRAQ ECONOMY AND ONCE THE MAJORITY OF THEM WERE SOLD THEN THE EXCHANGE RATE WOULD RISE VERY QUICK TO THE NOMINAL RATE. TIME WILL TELL

Sunday, December 29, 2013

TONY BLAST UPDATE, 29 DEC

P.S...

I forgot to tell you guys that the bonds did pre-sell at the rate of $3.71 according to Iraq sources. This rate can change when it goes international.

Also, Iraq Library of Law is on record as of today saying that the qui cards will go international Jan 1, 2014 and that the tariff  laws will be in effect on Jan 2, 2014.  It  says there  will be a rise in the dinar on Jan 1, 2014.   This is also in their Gazette, its public knowledge.  It is now in black and white.  None of this can happen unless the dinar is international.

TNTDinar

12/29/13

Tony

OKIEOILMAN CHAT UPDATE, 29 DEC

2:58 PM [..okieoilman] GOOD SUNDAY AFTERNOON AMERICA, SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR WORLD WIDE FRIENDS. WELL IT APPEARS AT THIS TIME WE ARE SO VERY CLOSE TO THE END OF THE JOURNEY THAT I CAN SEE THE END OF THE TRAIL.

WITH SO MUCH ACCOMPOLISHED THESE LAST FEW DAYS WE SHOULD EXPECT (EXPECT) TO SEE OUR GOAL REACHED VIRTUALLY ANY MOMENT NOW.

ALL THE PREREQUISITES BEING FINALIZED (FOR THE UMPTEENTH TIME) INDICATES ALL THE HAGLING IS OVER AND THOSE COUNTRIES WHO HAVE CONTINUALLY CHANGED THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND WISH LIST HAS BEEN PACIFIED. 
  THIS HAS REALLY BEEN A LABOR OF PATIENCE AND PERSERVERANCE ON ALL OUR PART BUT THE END RESULT WILL CERTAINLY BE WORTH IT.

THE RATES ARE SO MUCH MORE THAN EVER EVEN CONTEMPLATED IT IS ALMOST UNBELIEVABLE. –BUT---THE LORD NEVER GIVES ENOUGH---HE ALWAYS GIVES TOO MUCH.

WE HAVE KEPT OUR EYE ON THE BALL SO MUCH THAT WE MAY HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO THE LORD FOR BEING TOO INTERESTED IN CARNAL MATTERS.

WE HAVE ALL BEEN GUILTY OF BEING ENGULFED IN THE FRUIT OF THE HARVEST WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE INTERESTED IN THE SEED WE HAVE SOWN.

MY BLESSINGS TO EACH OF YOU AS YOU MAKE YOUR FINAL (FINAL) PREPARATIONS TO START YOUR NEW LIFE HENCEFORTH.----------BLESSINGS GALORE---OKIEOILMAN 12-29-2013

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 29 DEC

12-29-2013   Newshound Guru Bondlady   Article:  "Euphrates News announced that Iraqi ports on Saturday, they will begin to apply the system of customs tariffs with effect from the beginning of the new year, after a few days."   we got a great shot from now through the 1st quarter, IMO awesome tariff arts [articles] out that cover all the things we and I already covered for the last 4 years and ...they now are finally at the door to finally happen. ...it's good to finally see all I have covered in the past finally taking place.

12-29-2013   Newshound Guru Millionday
   Article quote:  "...Abdel Basset Turki said Iraqi Central Bank Governor that Iraq is planning to issue bonds in local currency for the first time to fiscal policy..."   that is part of the economic reform and the entry to free market trade.   [Are they in-country bonds like we saw before so that the country has $ to operate on until the RV? Or are the international for all to buy? they will be offered international as it looks to me.  they have not said the rate.  they will be changing the rate to a reality rate.  we wont know the rate until it changes.  we have not seen anything that shows any problem in us moving forward.

12-29-2013   Intel Guru ScottiG
    Please keep in mind that we continue to be in a position of not seeing the whole picture of activities and events. Though many of us have at times had very accurate information, we have had zero control over the events in real time in Iraq. The dynamics at play there have a life of their own. I do hope this message finds you keeping your eyes on what is important and let this change in value come at its own timing. Even though I do believe we remain ever close, it will happen when it happens.  [post 3 of 3]

12-29-2013   Intel Guru ScottiG 
   Re-affirmed with this information, was the statement that the Qui cards will be accepted internationally on the 1st of January. I was also informed that on 1 January the tariffs will be valued at $3.44 p/dinar. I would not be surprised if Maliki who is suppose to have received his severance will step down on the 1st as well. Now mind you I have received similar information in the past but the timing and dynamics are all different. The gun ships (choppers) have or are being delivered.   [post 2 of 3....stay tuned] [See possible “to do list” in the DinarGuru resource bar on the left….#10 and #11]

12-29-2013   Intel Guru ScottiG   The trillion in bonds (not the same bonds referred to in the article that came out a few days ago.) were indeed sold and placed with those who will be placing them on the public market. I was advised that they were sold to these entities for $3.71 p/dinar value.  
 I do not know at which rate they will hit the market. They could go at any time but again I am advised that due to the incredible interest in the market for them, they are waiting until the Markets will open up (probably in the east) so we could see it Sunday evening.   [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

12-29-2013   Intel/Newshound Guru TNT Tony
   Last night it was explained to me just how they planned to carryout todays sale of the bonds in Iraq and why it was legal to do it.   It is my understanding that the sale did take place and should be seen by the public Monday morning if not before.  I have received info that all call center personnel were called in at around 5pm [Saturday], let's hope that this time they get to do their work.  So far all news received today was positive and I do think we will see some changes by Monday morning.  I am still waiting for additional info.   THE RATES REMAIN HIGH AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE 7 DAYS OR THE 30 DAYS. IT WILL BE ALRIGHT.

SCOTTIG POST, 29 DEC

The trillion in bonds (not the same bonds referred to in the article that came out a few days ago.) were indeed sold and placed with those who will be placing them on the public market.

I was advised that they were sold to these entities for $3.71 p/dinar value.   I do not know at which rate they will hit the market.

They could go at any time but again I am advised that due to the incredible interest in the market for them, they are waiting until the Markets will open up (probably in the east) so we could see it Sunday evening.
Re-affirmed with this information, was the statement that the Qui cards will be accepted internationally on the 1st of January. I was also informed that on 1 January the tariffs will be valued at $3.44 p/dinar. 
I would not be surprised if Maliki who is suppose to have received his severance will step down on the 1st as well.

Now mind you I have received similar information in the past but the timing and dynamics are all different. The gun ships (choppers) have or are being delivered

Please keep in mind that we continue to be in a position of not seeing the whole picture of activities and events. Though many of us have at times had very accurate information, we have had zero control over the events in real time in Iraq.

The dynamics at play there have a life of their own. I do hope this message finds you keeping your eyes on what is important and let this change in value come at its own timing.

Even though I do believe we remain ever close, it will happen when it happens.

ScottiG   

TONY BLAST SUNDAY AFTERNOON, 29 DEC

Good morning TNT......I received plenty of good news yesterday and earlier this morning.  So let me share some of it with you.

Rates should show live in the US on Monday, they are high and would remain high for XX xxxx, then start down.
UST released to fed reserve.   Fed Res released to 12 Regional banks to push to their member banks....Fed Res has 12 Regional banks thru the US. It's at the corp level waiting for push to branches.  UST does not communicate directly to banks
new rate for the tariffs coming out Jan 2 was announced at 3.44 / USD.
Banks were double staffing last night with security...armored cars on standby with the escort vehicles.

I am sure there is more info out there and I am sure that I will get more on my evening calls.  If it is what we have been waiting for I'll back with another blast.
Enjoy the rest of your weekend and again, let's hope that this time they let the process complete itself.
TNTDinar
12/29/13
Tony

TONY IN CHAT SATURDAY EVENING, 29 DEC

TNTDinar wrote GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. i DID A BLAST, SO CHECK IT OUT. I RECEIVED A LOT MORE INFO TODAY AND IF I HAVE TO, I WILL TELL YOU ON MONDAY. I DON'T THINK I WILL HAVE TO THOUGH.

TNTDinar wrote 40s ago THE RATES REMAIN HIGH AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE 7 DAYS OR THE 30 DAYS. IT WILL BE ALRIGHT.

TNTDinar wrote 14s ago GOOD NIGHT TO YOU GUYS, I HOPE TO TALK TO YOU TOMOROW IF NOT BEFORE........

EMAIL FROM BH GROUP: AGREES WITH TONY, 29 DEC

Dear BH Group Member, 
 
NOW is the time for ALL of you to seriously start checking daily about the pending Re-Valuation of the Iraqi Dinar and Vietnam Dong that will be a part of the pending Global Currency Reset. Your “blessing” hopefully will arrive soon and you should be prepared to contact the Call Centers where you can make your appointments to EXCHANGE your Dinar or Dong.
 
I highly recommend you start listening to TNT Tony at www.blogtalkradio.com/tntdinar immediately! Tony is very knowledgeable and well connected to ALL the three letter agencies, i.e. IMF, UST, BIS that are involved in this project. He will be the FIRST to provide YOU with the Call Center contact numbers to make your individual appointment to exchange!
 
It was our HONOR and PRIVLEDGE to educate you and facilitate your purchase. We apologize for the interruption of our service to you due to the issues we have been dealing with our Government! However, PLEASE remember when you receive the “blessing” that you should help those less fortunate than you and realize that GIVING back will be the true GOLD for you to experience as you leave your “thumbprint” on others!
 
GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU…….The BH GROUP

SATURDAY TONY BLAST, 29 DEC

SATURDAY EVENING UPDATE 12/28/13

Good evening TNT.
I understand that you all have been having an interesting day, with all kinds of misinformation.
Last night it was explained to me just how they planned to carryout todays sale of the bonds in Iraq and why it was legal to do it.
It is my understanding that the sale did take place and should be seen by the public Monday morning if not before.
I have received info that all call center personnel were called in at around 5pm, let's hope that this time they get to do their work.
So far all news received today was positive and I do think we will see some changes by Monday morning.
I am still waiting for additional info.

TNTDinar
12/28/13
Tony

Saturday, December 28, 2013

EXOGEN UPDATE: COMPLETE OVERVIEW OF BONDS, 28 DEC

Stage2Omega:
THE BOND QUESTION ANSWERED FOR DINARLAND

COMPLETE OVERVIEW OF BONDS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_%28finance%29

NOTE: A COUNTRY/GOVERNMENT CAN NOT SELL/TRADE BONDS ON THE  OPEN MARKET WITHOUT AN INTERNATIONALLY TRADEABLE CURRENCY-HINT HINT!!

CAL POST FROM TNT CHAT, 28 DEC

CAL: treat this as Rumor, but the guy who got me involved in the dinar 3.5 years ago, was involved 1.5 years before me. He knows of the Admiral's Group. I do not know if it is the same as who Tony talks about in the past. Non the less, he just told me the Admiral's group today cashed out with the Chinese and should be hitting their accounts very soon. That is all I was told! No more detail than that! I pray that this is true!!! Come on RV!

CAL: UPDATE: No SKR, will receive Cash! RV should be triggered not long after that!?! My friend does not know the Admiral, but someone in the group. Again, though I trust my friend, you know how hear say is, please take as rumor! I am encouraged for my friend trust his!!

Lady Mary: Cal, what is SKR?

GoldMiner: SKR= Safe Keeping Receipt

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 28 DEC

12-28-2013   Intel Guru Arizona Heat   [the PTB could release this anytime? Does it have to dependent on any of these events? Could they not release it now?]   YES YES YES. THEY COULD POP THIS AT ANY MINUTE OF ANY DAY.  THE IMF HAS THE POWER TO RELEASE ANY RATE ON ANY GIVEN DAY, THEY HAVE THE POWER TO RELEASE IRAQS RATE AS IRAQ IS IN DEBT TO THE IMF, WHEN IRAQ TOOK LOANS FROM THE IMF, THEY GAVE UP CERTAIN RIGHT OVER THEIR CURRENCY...THE RELEASE OF THEIR RATE IS ONE OF THEM.   [post 3 of 3]

12-28-2013   Intel Guru Arizona Heat
   DONT LOOK AT ONE INDIVIDUAL ARTICLE AND HANG THE RELEASE OF THE RV ON THAT. THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX.   REMEMBER WHY WOULD THEY GIVE ANY INCLINATION OF WHEN THE RELEASE WOULD BE, IF THEY DID, THERE WOULD BE A RUN ON THIER CURRENCY AND ALL HELL WOULD BREAK LOSE.   [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]

12-28-2013   Intel Guru Arizona Heat
   JUST SOMETHING FOR YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT: THE US GOVERNMENT HAS PROVIDED DRONES AND HELL FIRE MISSLES TO IRAQ TO CURB THE VIOLENCE THERE, PLUS F18'S.   DO ANY OF YOU THINK THAT WE WOULD GO TO THESE MEASURES IF THERE WAS NOT SOMETHING IN IT FOR THE US? THEN THE ARTICLE ABOUT BONDS BEING PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE OF VIOLENCE. HMMMMM, THINK ABOUT IT. THEY NEED PROTECTION, WE NEED OIL CREDITS.   [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

12-28-2013   Newshound Guru Millionday
   Article quote:   "Iraq other in improving the payments system and the adoption of modern systems in a number of ministries after it adopted this system and has trained a number of employees on e-governance as well as the central bank began this step in order to improve the payments system."    now this is great  the expansion of economic advancement in all areas...the budget money will be sent through and is set up already by CBI -- it will all be electronic as we have here and also sent from accounts for all government electronically...all fees -- tariff--- customs -- contracts -- licenses -- etc.  this is e-governance,  huge advancement.

12-28-2013   Intel Guru WILDDUCK
  
 i like big deals that get real quiet, i said a long time ago when this gets close silence will reign.

12-28-2013   Newshound Guru Kaperoni
   1166 is not the official rate. That is the CBI rate.  Again, we know this because the IMF docs refer to the official rate, and the auctions themselves refer to the official rate as 1179. As well, this can be confirmed by the statements earlier this year when the IMF referenced the laps in monetary policy in which it went as high as 9%.This only makes sense looking back at the auctions in March - May 1179/ 1290.

TONY CC TRANSCRIBED BY MONTANA (27 DEC), PART 1, 28 DEC

GOOD MORNING TNT
DEC. 27TH
AND ITS FALLING ON A FRIDAY
NO BETTER DAY THAN TODAY
I HOPE ANYWAY
DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE CALL WILL BE
GIVE YOU THE INFO
ANSWER QUESTIONS
AND GO ALONG OUR DAY
WISH HOPE DREAM
AND I'LL GO TO THE BANK
IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THE DATE/TIME
I GOT A TEXT
THAT SAYS DON'T SAY THE DATE OR TIME
KILLS ALL THE INFO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DATE TIME 
BUT THE MEETING WENT GOOD
YESTERDAY
MEETINGS AFTER THE MEETING
AND A NEW UNDERSTANDING AMONG EVERYONE
SOME PPL THAT DIDN'T BELIEVE THAT CL
WAS DOING WHAT SHE WAS DOING
SO THEY PUT THING OFF
JUST DIDN'T BELIEVE IT
EVERYONE HAS SKELETONS IN THE CLOSET
AND DIDN'T THINK SHE'D EXPOSE THOSE TO GET THIS DONE
ESPECIALLY FOR US
TO GET THE RATE FOR US
DON'T WANT YOU TO THINK SHE'S DOING THIS FOR US
SHE'S DOING THAT FOR THE PROGRAMS AROUND THE WORLD
AND SHE IS FIGHTING FOR US TO
BUT ….
BACK AND FORTH - BUT AT THE END THEY DID AGREE
ON THE TERMS, CONDITIONS AND TIME LINES
SUPPOSEDLY THE 32 RATE STILL SHOWING
AGREED TO HAVE SECURITY AT THE CALL CENTERS AND
THE EXCHANGE LOCATIONS
WERE TO BE THERE AT6AM AND BE READY AT ANY MOMENT
SET A DEADLINE
AND THINGS WE'VE LOOKED AT
ARE THE BONDS IN IRAQ
AND EVERYONE IS SAYING THEY ARE GOING LIVE 
TOMORROW
WITH A SELL OF BONDS TO THE PUBLIC
AND NO ONE KNOWS HOW THEY CAN DO IT
WITHOUT A PUBLIC RATE
LEGAL?
HOW TO ASSIGN A RATE? IF THERE ISN'T A MARKET RATE TO GO BY.
THESE ARE IRAQI BONDS
COUNTRY TO COUNTRY, WHO LOANS WHO
BUT THE BONDS ARE IN THE FRONT
SO ITS AN ISSUE
CAN THEY STILL DO IT TOMORROW?
THEY MIGHT, BACK ROOM, WE KNOW HOW ITS SUPPOSED TO WORK
LOTS OF THINGS HAVEN'T WORKED LIKE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO
MORE PPL ARE IDENTIFIED
NOTIFIED THAT ARREST WARRANTS ARE PENDING
AND WILL BE DONE OVER THE WEEKEND
INVESTIGATION
RETIREMENTS - EFFECTIVE THE FIRST
PPL PLANING THEIR ESCAPE ROUTE
SOME STILL FIGHTING THE 32 RATE
HEARD CL AND DIDN'T BELIEVE HER
SHE MADE IT CLEAR SHE IS WILLING TO SACRIFICE HER CAREER TO GET IT DONE
GIVE HER KUDOS 
DOMINIQUE STRAUSS KHAN DIDN'T
THE BANK IS READY
GOT THE PPL THERE
WE DON'T HAVE THE FINAL NDA
BUT THE LATEST CHANGES TO IT
INCLUDE IN DEPTH WHO THE SPOUSE IS
SIGNIFICANT OTHERS
FRIENDS AND OTHERS
WHO YOU CAN HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH
TRYING TO MAKE IT TIGHTER
IT INCLUDES THE NEWS MEDIA ON ALL DIFF. LEVELS NOW
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN IT YET
SO I CAN'T READ IT TO YOU LIKE BEFORE
ITS BEEN CHANGED 3 TIMES
AND THEY LISTEN TO THE CALLS, READ THE BOARDS
AND AS YOU MAKE SUGGESTIONS, THEY PICK THEM UP
AND CLOSE THE LOOPHOLES AS THEY GO
IF SOMEONE IS CONCERNED ABOUT SIGNING THE NDA
THEY MUST BE DOING SOMETHING THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING W/ THE MONEY
OR TELLING SOMEONE THEY SHOULDN'T
IF THAT'S NOT YOUR PLAN
THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE CONCERNED AT ALL
AND IF YOU TAKE THE 3.85 OR 5.85
DON'T HAVE TO SIGN THE NDA
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DONT' WANT TO WORRY ABOUT HOMELAND FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS
THEN DO THAT
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT AREN'T US CITIZENS
DON'T KNOW
WE DISCUSSED BIRTH CERT'S AND PASSPORTS, 
DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WILL USE TO ASK YOU TO PROVE YOU ARE A US CITIZEN
BUT IF I WERE YOU - I'D CALL THE BANK NOW
BUT YOU CAN'T GET YOUR BIRTH CERTIFICATE OVER THE WEEKEND
OR A PASSPORT
IF THAT'S REQUIRED
BUT THEY ARE SAYING YOU HAVE TO HAVE PROOF TO GET THE CONTRACT RATE
IF YOU ALREADY HAVE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE/PASSPORT
GO FIND IT AND SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SCRAMBLE AT THE LAST MIN. TO GET THIS RATE
THE BIG THING - I THINK, AND OTHER PPL
SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN TO MAKE THESE BONDS VIABLE TOMORROW
COULD BE RESCHEDULED
BUT I HEAR THERE IS A PUSH TO GET IT FINISHED
ITS THE END OF THE YEAR
IT DIDN'T WORK FOR THE ECONOMY
BUT FOR TAXES
AND NO ONE TALKS ABOUT IT
BUT GIVES NO ONE TO MOVE MONEY AROUND
AND 28TH, 29TH, 2 DAYS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR
SO THEY'LL GET THE TAXES
IT WORKS OUT FOR THEM
THERE IS A PROVISION
& THEY KNOW --- FOR EVERYONE THAT'S CASHED OUT -- THEIR ACCOUNTS TO BE FROZEN
FOR YEARS
UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION IS COMPLETE
AND SHE WILL ABSOLUTELY WILL
AND FILE THEM AS EARLY AS THIS EVENING
FOR THAT TO HAPPEN
EVERYTHING ELSE IS DONE GUYS
MALIKI AND BARZANI MET AND ARE WILLING TO SETTLE EVERYTHING
CAN'T TELL YOU WHY IT HAPPENED
BUT IT DID
MISSILES AND OTHER MILITARY EQUIP. DELIVERED TO IRAQ YESTERDAY
TO FIGHT TERRORISM AND OTHER REASONS
ALL IRAQ ISSUES ARE RESOLVED
IN THE MOSQUE THEY EXPLAINED THE PURPOSE OF THE MONEY
AND THE 3 ZEROS
AND THEY TOLD THEM IF WE HAVE DIFF. RATES, DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THEM
SO THEY WOULDN'T BE UPSET IF THEY DID HEAR IT
IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT IN CASE
SO TODAY CAN BE A GREAT DAY 
OR A CONFUSING DAY
I'LL GO W/ GREAT
WE HAD PPL THAT--- I'LL  PUT IT DIFF. THEN HOW IT WAS PUT TO ME
WHO HELD IT UP
AND WHO GOT PAID
THE GOOD OLE BOY NETWORK AT WORK
CERTAIN PPL GETTING THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY PAID
AND I WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT WE KNOW
NOT ON HOW MUCH THEY HAD
BUT THE RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAD IN THE PAST OR THE FUTURE
HOW GOV. WORKS, HOW POLITICIANS WORK
BUILDING FOUNDATIONS/RELATIONSHIPS
NOT FOR THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO RETIRE
BUT FOR THE FUTURE POLITICAL PARTIES
( TONY GAVE AN EXAMPLE )
( OF FUTURE DONATIONS FOR WHO WILL BECOME GOV. SOMEDAY…ETC… )
PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE
WANT YOU TO KNOW WHATS GOING ON
OUR GOV. AND HOW IT WORKS
ITS REALITY
SO THAT WAS ONE ISSUE
AND THAT'S HOW PPL ARE FINDING OUT THAT THEY WERE CASHED OUT
NOT WHAT YOU KNOW BUT WHO YOU KNOW
THE BANKS DID SOMETHING SIMILAR
THEY WERE TRADING THE MONEY
SINCE LAST TUESDAY
AND SOME HAVE BEEN REMOVED/ARRESTED
AND THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS IN CHARGE
NOT ENOUGH CHIEFS AND TOO MANY INDIANS
SO ONE WOULD CALL AND SAY GET YOUR PPL READY
AND THEN ANOTHER WOULD SAY ON HOLD
THEN THE OTHER WOULD CALL AND SAY WHY DID THEY DO THAT
EVERYONE HAD THEIR OWN REASONS
AND THE BANKERS DIDN'T CARE
THE LONGER THEY HOLD IT
THE MORE MONEY THEY MAKE
OFF BOOK MONEY
THEY'RE NOT GAMBLING
HOW MUCH MORE MONEY CAN WE MAKE TILL THE REST OF THE MONEY COMES IN
NBC YESTERDAY, THE FOREX TRADERS ARRESTED
AND WHY?
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T THINK WE'D GET CAUGHT
TOO HIGH ABOVE THE FRAY TO BE NOTICED
BUT THEY WEREN'T
AND THAT'S THE BEGINNING
THE LEVEL OF WHAT THOSE PPL ARE AT
OVERNIGHT, THINGS RESOLVED
LOOKING FOR PPL TO COME IN AT 6AM THIS MORN.
AND TO LOOK FOR THE 800#S
AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN
I'M STILL LOOKING FOR THEM
EVERYONE IS STILL IN PLACE
OTHER THAN THAT
LETS DO Q & A
DC IS NOT HERE 
I WILL TELL YOU THIS
I KNOW YOU ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME
( LOST THE INTERNET )
( TONY IS READING A QUESTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME ---- WE ARE AT 29 MINUTES INTO THE CALL )
( HE WANTED THE 3 LETTER AGENCIES TO HEAR THE QUESTION )
( I missed approx. 5 min. of the call -- Internet is back on )
( he's discussing the Mayor and Gov. and who you are to donate ….)
SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU'LL DEF. BE INVOLVED IN
AS LONG AS YOU ARE WRITING THE CHECKS
THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE TRADERS WAS LAST YEAR
THIS YEAR ITS ABOUT GOV. OFFICIALS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN IT
THE NAMES WILL COME OUT LATER
AND HAVE SOME REASONS BEHIND IT
WANTED YOU TO HEAR HIS MESSAGE
AND NOT A WHOLE LOT FOR US TO TALK ABOUT
EXCEPT WHERE DOES IT GO FROM HERE
live 
next 956
c-the bonds
t- no one can figure out how they can do it w/ out a public RV
c- i have Zim and VNN
t- I've heard the rates are still the same, still on the boards, haven't gone up or down, no final decision till it goes live, but it should go at the same time
c- nothing else to ask, thank you, 
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