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Thursday, December 13, 2012

WILDDUCK & FLASHING CHAT, 13 DEC

[redhead1] CNN Reports Obama and Boehner are meeting at this time - Rice has taken her name out of running for Sec of State - meeting began 15 minutes ago - they are suppose to be owrking on breakthrough

[WCW] WILDDUCK have faith bro. its coming and will be great for all of us

[WILDDUCK] netdania bid this morning was .75 that is way up, when you trinagulate all the news it comes up to scary rates to WCW hold you ground

[WCW] WILDDUCK things are good

 [WILDDUCK] WCW really really good, getting it from all directions, no bad just keep looking it creeping into veiw.

[WILDDUCK] WCW more then faith i know its right on top of us, just do not have the day or the hour, no smoke out here now/ 6 diffenent soulrces ins and outside of the dinar web site world all saying the exact some thing. NOW Thats never happend in any Christmas past

 [bigblue3] guess everyone saw a few minutes ago on CNN that Boehner and O had a 15 min meeting, which is over now; they both put out word that the meeting was "frank" and that the lines of communication remain open

 [mbillions] bigblue3 I saw that... I am waiting for the leaks to get the real story... roflmao 
[WILDDUCK] bigblue3 To bad they do not know about the dinar it would solve there problem really fast roflmao

[barb] bigblue3 would like to have been fly on the wall for that meeting

 [bigblue3] WILDDUCK maybe we should tell them? lol

[findmoney] The only high finance I knew before this deal was how to borrow from Peter to pay Paul. Then Jill and I am Ahab came along.

 [citizensoldier] WILDDUCK Gov gas a bad spending habit, which is exanornated not solved with "mo'"

 [WILDDUCK] bigblue3 they are deaf and dumb

 [bigblue3] barb 15 min meeting - must have been short and "sweet" (maybe) hopefully

[ram1] WILDDUCK Are you hearing good rates?

WCW] ram1 every thing is good buy a lot of depends and have the 911 #handy cause u are going to need them

 [telemar59] citizensoldier we are about to get the government that works for us.

[citizensoldier] telemar59 Are you suggesting that so many in CONgress will exchange their dinar and resign?

[cashinqueen] findmoney how have the markets been looking lately from your perspective thanks

[findmoney] Markets up and down. Little money velocity. Just bottom fishers lookin for deals to keep it proped up

[findmoney] They obviusly have Gold and Silver where the want it set. It just hovers around 1700 and 34 for weeks

 [flashing] nolaspice. let me tell u i am very confident on the rates brought to me by my sources. date not earlier than dec 17 ::

[Jeff] flashing 17TH? LOL

[Jeff] findmoney only smart money now
          

DISCUSSION OF ANGELQUEST, PART 1, 13 DEC


[mbillions] ANGELQUEST Many have been waiting for you... rofl

 [ANGELQUEST] boy it is pert near the 15th , 16th isnt it?

 [justbelieve7] ANGELQUEST Well do you think still before O leaves for vacation?

 [ANGELQUEST] justbelieve7 you betcha i do

 [justbelieve7] ANGELQUEST Good! So much junk being posted out there....so glad you are back with us!

 [ANGELQUEST] whos gonna go make sure he leaves.................... roflmao

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] angelquest is your information regarding the 15/16 a opinion from your people are is it a fact base prediction

[ANGELQUEST] DRAKEFORTRUTH i never give opinions those that know me KNOW I have facts to base my thought

 [Jeff] Angelquest saw that coming lol

 [justbelieve7] ANGELQUEST Oh he will leave..the taboids are waiting for the photo shoot of him in his bathing suit.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] ANGELQUEST there is no facts out there that this is going to happen 15/16 as you have predicted

 [ANGELQUEST] Jeff hmm then you know me............somewhat
[Jeff] Angelquest from ktfm days

 [ANGELQUEST] DRAKEFORTRUTH well not sure where you get your facts then

 [DRAKEFORTRUTH] ANGELQUEST we are not sure where you get your facts either

[Papa Bear] Ty for being here AQ

[ANGELQUEST] DRAKEFORTRUTH and you will never know...................

 [sandytob] DRAKEFORTRUTH well obviously she cannot reveal that.

[ANGELQUEST] Papa Bear Papa Bear :bighug: love

 [Starlight1203] ANGELQUEST do you have any facts that you can share with us?

[trooperb] Do we think the 15th16th. It will happen ????

 [Bear'sOpenHeart] In this :boxer: my money is on ANGELQUEST

 [DRAKEFORTRUTH] sandytob and obviously I cant either, nobody knows when this will happen they will not let it out ahead of time, and to many people take a time frame that is a possiblity and tell the dinar world a date or time, which is only a chance but they do not take it that way

[ANGELQUEST] trooperb yeppers I have said this for over 2 months

 [trooperb] Thanks AQ

[best1154] ANGELQUEST shall we award DRAKEFORTRUTH the wooden spoon for always stirring it up with love

 [marmeysue] ANGELQUEST Do you feel like with the ISX coming on line in January that this thing has to happen before Christmas?

[ANGELQUEST] Starlight1203 fact.......................... it is done

 [Starlight1203] ANGELQUEST alright! show me the money!

 [Jeff] best1154 DRAKEFORTRUTH he should receive the fact check man of the year award: Sounds like a Dragnet guy LOL

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] sandytob and obviously I cant either, nobody knows when this will happen they will not let it out ahead of time, and to many people take a time frame that is a possiblity and tell the dinar world a date or time, which is only a chance but they do not take it that way

 [DRAKEFORTRUTH] best1154 not stirring it up, dont you want to hear the facts are or you looking for just something that will give you hope for a period of time, I know whats out there, and what they are claiming is not fact based its only a opinion

 [ANGELQUEST] best1154 sure I dont let others get to me..................

 [imperium] Now here's a good question: [marmeysue] ANGELQUEST Do you feel like with the ISX coming on line in January that this thing has to happen before Christmas?

[2012jesus] Angelquest I am with you ,,

[ANGELQUEST] Jeff well if he has facts there are plenty to present has this person not presented any?

gsmj] ANGELQUEST Thanks so much for your honesty and info that you bring to the room!

[sandytob] imperium what is ISX?

[Starlight1203] ANGELQUEST I have heard so many rumors..........I hope it will happen soon for everyone's sake

[Drod] ANGELQUEST I just have to ask ! RATE? I am ducking now!LOL

[tatortot] So it is done but will not show until the 15th?

[ANGELQUEST] Drod All I can say is it won’t be a dollar and the VND wont be .05 cents

[pmw1973] sandytob iraq stock exchange

 [Drod] ANGELQUEST I like that alot. hehe

[Starlight1203] ANGELQUEST $3.22 and .48 sound good?

[ANGELQUEST] Starlight1203 higher hon higher

 [Starlight1203] just being "practical"

[imperium] If it's true that the ISX is opening in Jan.... then I can't see them trading in a currency worth next to zilch.

[mkay] wow higher

[ANGELQUEST] justbelieve7 no no stalling.............if you all have paid attention to the world happenings it is happening right before your eyes

[Starlight1203] ANGELQUEST more more.....tell us more

 [2012jesus] ANGELQUEST same with the fiscal cliff its been done just not announced

[Dakotaman] ANGELQUEST It is so Good to have you back on chat again today.... Ty

 [ANGELQUEST] Dakotaman thank you dear have been out of pocket traveling and I have arrived so could not get on for a few days sssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeee I WAS PACKED AND READY................

 [shybabi] AngelQuest.... happenning before our eyes.... u talking about Q4 ?

 [justbelieve7] ANGELQUEST Well thank you and God Bless You for the years you've stood with us and helped us...it's time to Just Believe and Now Receive....I trust what you are saying.:bighug:

[ANGELQUEST] sandytob THE isx HAS DONE THIS NOW FOR THREE YEARS...............

 [sandytob] ANGELQUEST ok so we shouldn't hold our breathes on that then

 [ANGELQUEST] shybabi THERE IS NO Q4.......... roflmao

 [ANGELQUEST] sandytob no not in my opinion

[Jeff] Angelquest all digital bonds only

[sierramist] ANGELQUEST - Hi hon.....just waving hello BTW - I know how great your sources are and from multiple avenues while others only have one direction. You also have been one of the most careful with putting out info. DONT LET ANYONE QUESTION YOU!!! WE KNOW THE INTERGIRTY YOU HAVE AND I FOR ONE AM GRATEFUL YOU SPEND TIME AT I4U!!

[Jeff] NOT QE4

 [Starlight1203] ANGELQUEST if its done.....what are we waiting for?

 [marmeysue] ANGELQUEST How much time after the rv do you think we will have before the economy goes south?

[ANGELQUEST] marmeysue by end of the first quarter

[imperium] AQ... are you hearing that the PP's have begun being distributed?

[ANGELQUEST] imperium yeppers.............

 [simpleysaid] I can guarantee you all AQ is one of the most genuine people I have ever had the pleasure of knowing. Nothing but solid gold!

 [2012jesus] Angelquest yes on that

[marmeysue] ANGELQUEST ty We keep hearing we will only have a few weeks to get everything in order do you feel that way too?

 [ANGELQUEST] marmeysue honestly that should be your first priority.............. we involved in the dinar KNOW many others do not and once they do or feel it it will be katy bar the door..........like a hurricane or tornado stores emptied etc

 [blessing] ANGELQUEST alot of things happening is right.. How about the Freeze on the D Bank from the IMF.. SOmething is brewing.. GOD BLESS YA and so glad to see you..

 [misskitty05] ANGELQUEST do you expect this to come out as a managed float?

 [ANGELQUEST] blessing yes you are seeing what is happening IN FRONT OF OUR EYES........SO EXCITING

 [..SweetQueen] ANGELQUEST THANKS FOR COMING IN :bighug:

 [ANGELQUEST] misskitty05 PERSONALLY I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT THAT...............I FEEL IT WILL BE ON SAME KEY AS KUWAIT BUT THIS IS MUCH BIGGER WITH MORE OIL ETC

 [misskitty05] ANGELQUEST so you would expect it to continue to rise after the RV?

 [ANGELQUEST] sierramist girl you are making me blush I am like all of you just dont beleive in telling BS

 [presley] ANGELQUEST love this >>> ty [ANGELQUEST] Starlight1203 fact................... it is done!! happy

 [sierramist] ANGELQUEST AND YOU NEVER HAVE SINCE I HAVE KNOWN YOU.....

 [ANGELQUEST] misskitty05 yes to a certain amount then back down to a little over kuwait

[oucrazy] ANGELQUEST . . . is Kuwait going to revalue as well? Thnx

[ANGELQUEST] oucrazy I AM HEARING NO AT THIS TIME

[ANGELQUEST] YES EVERYONE NEEDS TO REMAIN CALM BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT CALM NOW HOW WILL YOU MAKE IT THROUGH AN RV????

 [blessing] ANGELQUEST alot of things happening is right.. How about the Freeze on the D Bank from the IMF.. SOmething is brewing.. GOD BLESS YA and so glad to see you..

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 [vrod03] ANGELQUEST Are you still looking at 15th-17th? for our blessing?

[ANGELQUEST] vrod03 YES I TRULY AM....................BUT WE SHALL SEE FOR SEVERAL WEEKS I HAVE SAID THIS AND WE KNOW IT IS ALL FALLING IN PLACE

 [marmeysue] ANGELQUEST ANGELQUEST Once we have an RV would you put your money in other countries currency knowing they will all rv too? If yes, which ones do you feel that are the safest? Thank you.

[ANGELQUEST] marmeysue well hon I am looking at a few but will not put all my eggs in one basket i will spread it out

[garfield] ANGELQUEST - Good afternoon, thankyou for all your information and guidance, it is appreciated. Can I ask why Dec. 15 1n3 16, thanks

 [ANGELQUEST] Nuffsaid DONE MEANS......... nuffsaid

 [shybabi] AngelQuest.... is this what u R referring to as happenning.....QE4 Is Here: Bernanke Delivers $85B-A-Month Until Unemployment ... www.forbes.com/

[WCW] ANGELQUEST the un updates tomorrow do u think it will be on the list are we want see it on there till Monday

[ANGELQUEST] WCW well for years I have watched the UN and since they update tomorrow and it is friday they may not list it till it is effective......................

[redhead1] angelquest - you are saying we are "done" but are we going to be able to start the actual cash out process before Christmas

[ANGELQUEST] redhead1 yes maam

[marmeysue] ANGELQUEST TY I feel with Canada and Australia being the new world currencies I think they may be safer but just am not sure.

 [ANGELQUEST] marmeysue both on my list

 [Jester] ANGELQUEST iyo... will we have time enough left to cash in this year? taxes?

 [redhead1] Angelquest - thank you - that is a straightup answer and I appreciate it

[GJHHONOR] marmeysue We do have a strong banking system here in Canada.

 [Starlight1203] what a Christmas to remember!

 [marmeysue] GJHHONOR Yes, a lot of good things there. Keep thinking dual citizenship might not be a bad thing. grin

[simpleysaid] Gotta just love hearing what AQ is bringing in today!

DISCUSSION OF ANGELQUEST, PART 2, 13 DEC


[ANGELQUEST] Jester all will have enough time to cash in taxes................they tried this for years I for one have always said no taxes but state but..................if there is one it will be flat across the board

 [ANGELQUEST] redhead1 thank you I hate to lead someone on- i spit it out

[ericasmom] ANGELQUEST you have brought much JOY!!

[marmeysue] ANGELQUEST Just love that you would come in and encourage us - thank you so much. You are a blessing to us.

[ANGELQUEST] redhead1 i would rather be in trouble sometimes then to lie and lead others on.......no?

 [prissynell] Merry Christmas to us all

 [jack1977] I am in tears ...... praying hi everyone ,,,,,,

 [redhead1] Angelquest - YES - Tell me straight and I can handle it

 [mbd4049] ANGELQUEST so we're not really done, right?

[ANGELQUEST] mbd4049 who said that?

[mbd4049] ANGELQUEST above you said that we were done, but next sentence you said 'until it's effective'

[ANGELQUEST] mbd4049 you need to know how the UN posts...........it posts the PUBLISHING DATE then it puts an EFFECTIVE DATE 3/4 days later it is a 24-72 hour they have to show it international when a country revalues

[mbd4049] ANGELQUEST so then if that's the case we can double dip?

[ANGELQUEST] mbd4049 no!!!!!!!!!!!!! once it is PUBLISHED no more selling at all

[prissynell] redhead1 I am so glad you asked that question

 [GJHHONOR] weneedit Scotiabank for sure are ready to cash people out with the dinar once it is an international tradeable currency.

 [moonstar] ANGELQUEST Thank you! Where do you think it will show?

[ANGELQUEST] moonstar moonstar BANKS

 [blessing] ANGELQUEST with the meetings going on with IMF and CBI is that the key that opens the door this weekend? Thanks

 [okrocks] MrMiyagi dwg14 She is saying that she still is looking to the 15-16th

 [ANGELQUEST]  not to worry all will have a wonderful Christmas

[Starlight1203] ANGELQUEST ok, trying to read between the lines here.....

[presley] Iraq will participate in IMF meeting December 13-15; Discuss third review of stand-by agreement http://thecurrencynewsho ··· reement/

 [sierramist] ANGELQUEST - YOUR ALWAYS THE EDUCATING.....THANKS SO MUCH FOR HOLDING YOURSELF IN A HIGH ESTEEM :cad02:

[mbd4049] ANGELQUEST OK well that's not what I understand

[moonstar] ANGELQUEST I just love your confidence!!! :)

[mkay] ANGELQUEST will we know when it is published?

 [ANGELQUEST] mkay that is the thing............the 15th is on a saturday...........do you think they work on saturday at the UN? but they can put it to trigger will they ? NO why? because they CAN

[ANGELQUEST] mbd4049 well then what do you understand

[..SweetQueen] LET ME JUST SAY A FEW WORDS ANGELQUEST IS A GREAT FRIEND AND HIGHLY RESPECTED IN THE DINAR COMMUNITY, YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO WHAT SHE POSTS IF YOU TRULY WANT TO KNOW WHERE WE STAND.

 [marmeysue] ANGELQUEST I didn't understand that last post could you explain it more simply? Thank you.

 [Jester] ..SweetQueen ANGELQUEST that is good enough for me...

[mkay] ANGELQUEST so when wil we know? when its on bank screens?

 [sierramist] ..SweetQueen thats correct!! ANGELQUEST has NEVER BEEN A DATE AND RATE GAL. SHE EXPLAINS THE PROCESS OF THIS COMPLICATED INVESTMENT. SHE HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT AN ASSET TO I4U!

[ANGELQUEST] mkay YES...........it will come like a theif in the night

 [BLESSME] Do we need to wait till Monday for UN posting. Thank you. I want to cashin this weekend! Lol

[ANGELQUEST] BLESSME no the UN can update any time they wish and back date it

[cashinqueen] Are we still hoping for this RV this year???

[ANGELQUEST] cashinqueen yes my friend

[GJHHONOR] ANGELQUEST Yes, as a thief in the night, you are right.

  [justbelieve7] ANGELQUEST Oh my...I still remember the CC calls with the singing of In The Still of the Night! :)

[ANGELQUEST] justbelieve7 OH how I remember.................dont go there.................it is now SILENT NIGHT......... roflmao

[texasguey] ANGELQUEST so will this be a USA thing at the banks are will it show worldwide at banks

[ANGELQUEST] texasguey all I can say to that is with the new global reset we truly dont know but it will be from EAST to WEST

[GJHHONOR] People laughed at Noah when he was building the ark. He was surely mocked and scoffed at. The IQD for those who were told and laughed at the whole idea will be left out.

[BERBERBOY] ANGELQUEST is okie still going to bring it to the dinar world or will it just show up at the banks?

[misskitty05] ANGELQUEST so if the UN is not working on Saturday or Sunday and we don't have to wait until Monday, does that mean the UN will "publish" tomorrow with and effective date of next Monday or Tuesday?

[ANGELQUEST] misskitty05 they can do it however they choose unfortunately but we will not get the heads up

[simpleysaid] ANGELQUEST Holy Night, All is Calm, All is Bright - I see the light!

 [ANGELQUEST] simpleysaid amen girl!

[findmoney] Angelquest. Looks to me as if they have manipulated the markets to stabilise them to get this done.

[ANGELQUEST] findmoney BINGO...........................

[findmoney] BINGO!!!!!! What did I win? I dont want another coffee pot please

 [ANGELQUEST] findmoney whatever your little heart desires

[dwg14] so are expecting to see this ""tomorrow" or" begining of next week".

[ANGELQUEST] dwg14 i want to see it tomorrow but the banks probably do not until next week but all i know is they are hiring and training and are very very excited and crazy right now

dwg14] ANGELQUEST ok that works in london til sunday night anyways grin

[Jester] ANGELQUEST importance of NIBA now that part of F-D is going to expired at the end of this year?

[justbelieve7] ANGELQUEST Thanks for taking the Hope Deferred away...it's been a long haul....the promise gives us new life Praise God!

[ANGELQUEST] justbelieve7 He will never take you to something HE will or Can not get you through but first we must beleive

[mbd4049] ANGELQUEST so, then we are not going to get a heads-up so this may not be between the 15-17

[ANGELQUEST] mbd4049 the papers are signed THEY pull the strings but all that is NOW done has never been done in the past...............nothing is left......................C wants us to buy buy buy soooooooooooo what do you think?

 [GJHHONOR] ANGELQUEST Yes, that is true. I've talked to a few private bankers and all are on board as far as having enough staff ready to go to cash out people.

  [fmc1] Angelquest who is c?

 [mbd4049] fmc1 China

[ANGELQUEST] POSITIVITY BRINGS POSITIVITY...............NEGATIVITY BRINGS DOWNFALL.............TY

 [ANGELQUEST] fmc1 PICK A COUNTRY

[blue skies] ANGELQUEST i agree

[sananddan24] AngelQuest any news on the VND?

[KajunRedBull] ANGELQUEST sooo you do not believe the rumor that Obama is in control of this?

 [ANGELQUEST] KajunRedBull roflmao

[KajunRedBull] ANGELQUEST roflmao roflmao

 [bandit] ANGELQUEST ...CNN just said Boehner is headed back to whitehouse -Is all this smoke

[ANGELQUEST] bandit NO my friend.............keep your head on the news

 [ANGELQUEST] bandit much is going on that if we do not watch and stay on top of it IT WILL COME IN THE NIGHT AND NOT JUST THE RV

[okrocks] ANGELQUEST hear figi is planning to rv on the 2nd...

 [marmeysue] ANGELQUEST what else will come in the night????

[..SweetQueen] ANGELQUEST I DON'T ONLY SLEEP WITH MY PHONE BUT ALSO WITH MY TELEVISION ON ALL NIGHT! ROFLMAO

[bandit] ANGELQUEST ..Dumb that down for me

[ANGELQUEST] bandit can you say GLOBAL RESET AND GOV CHANGING ALL AROUND THE WORLD???

[telemar59] AQ will some vacations be permanent?

 [ANGELQUEST] telemar59 INDEED

 [sandytob] ANGELQUEST Deutsche Bank accounts frozen today? In response to what the Fed tried to do with more worthless paper. Fed going away?

 [findmoney] Angelquest.. Has this turned out to be a much bigger Dog turd to clean up or what?

[Starlight1203] ANGELQUEST sounds like a world bank organizing.........humm

[mbillions] [justbelieve7] ANGELQUEST Well do you think still before O leaves for vacation? [ANGELQUEST] justbelieve7 you betcha i do

Mbillions: Looks like ANGELQUEST is sticking to her story... so I would say that news is very good and makes me happy happy

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 13 DEC

12-13-2012   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Article - "Raise the price of the Iraqi dinar against the dollar as possible"   "the central bank governor received authorization to raise the price of the dinar safety of the dollar...  "the central bank governor will have the option under this authorization in choosing the appropriate time to raise the price of the dinar and it will determine when and how this step is done based on his experience in his field."   very good article...we see that the authorization has been given to raise the value..and it's in Turki's hand.  It literally could raise in value at any moment.

12-13-2012  Newshound Guru LoriC    "The United Nations, on Wednesday, criticized Iraq's delay in adoption of the law of oil and gas (HCL), while political parties demanded to pass this law as soon as possible, renewed its call for elections in the disputed areas."  The United Nations is criticizing Iraq for the late adoption of the oil and gas law.  Martin Kobler, in a speech at the forum said "I call on politicians and Iraqi specialists to pass a law of oil and gas as soon as possible."

12-13-2012  Newshound Guru Breitling     It's a great day for our investment.  Article:  "The Central Bank authorizes the governor of the bank to reduce the exchange rate to enhance the value of the Iraqi dinar"  What they are doing is reducing the dollar supply through the auctions. They are going to reduce the dollar, dedollarize, and reduce the dinar supply in Iraq. They are starting with it.  It's going to gain value.  So, congratulations to all of you guys who stuck around.  The good news for you is if they do it this way, there is more of a chance for you to make more money.  They have pushed their infrastructure, they have changed banking laws and tax laws.  Everybody is looking for that one knockout punch, like you will wake up one morning and there is a huge price on the dinar.  There was an opportunity that this could have happened, but they have chosen to pip it up & I agree with them.  It helps them to build their country cheap, build their infrastructure cheap.  Other countries have done this.  I am very excited.

12-13-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana   It truly does look like Chapter 7 is a rubber stamp away from being done - with a resolution on the HCL, I can't imagine Chapter 7 will be too far behind! And they have indeed been releasing very positive news on the HCL.   All in all - it's a positive outlook on those two matters

DISCUSSION OF BLD & SHREDD, 13 DEC

[BondLady] there's a ton of great articles that have been out all week and the week before, things that i've waited to see in the works for years, article 140, hcl, ch 7, the budget,monetary change...the new money all of it is in the news everyday,
as we watch them all being settled and for iraq even 5 or more years later they are moving at record speed now as they get close to the last day of december 2012 when they have to have so much ready and active for the new year and i guess we should start with some of what has been troubling many over the 25% of the oil profits that were to be distributed to the people before the end of the year,
that had been passed in the 2011 budget and was party to being a law but then again they haven't said they have the hcl passed yet have they? and the part of the hcl that they have been fighting over since 2005 is the profit sharing who gets what and how much,so without passing the hcl 1st how can you distribute the hcl profits to the people? so maliki filed a law suit with the gov, to disburse it in other areas, salaries and retirement money which caused a big rift, but he had to file a suit showing the law suit, if he didn't then he would have been breaking the law, 25% of oil profits to the people law, without the hcl again how can you pass out the parts of the hcl law that has kept the hcl from being passed, everyone feels like they deserve more of the hcl profits than the other so they fight and as i've said never forget what drives them greed and power, the hcl means everything to iraq and the international world of investors without it major players don't want to mess with them, some go ahead but we see what they face daily by doing it
so the hcl will move iraq up in the world big time... the un is also trying to help them solve this....they have also set up a small committee to solve the problems also as way too many mouths have had there say in it for too long, they made it a committee of 5 then made it even smaller cause even in small numbers they couldn't reach the agreement


[BondLady] United Nations criticizes the late adoption of the oil and gas law and calls passed
Criticized by the United Nations, on Wednesday, Iraq's delay in adoption of the law of oil and gas, while political parties demanded to pass this law as soon as possible, renewed its call for elections in the disputed areas. The Special Representative of the Secretary-General of the United Nations in Iraq, Martin Kobler, in a speech at the forum of Iraq's oil in Baghdad, which was attended by (long-Presse), on Wednesday, "I call on politicians and Iraqi specialists to pass a law of oil and gas as soon as possible," returned "the survival of this important law varies in its place is not good." The Kubler "I was ambassador to Germany in Iraq in 2006 and 2007 and when I left he told me Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister then Barham Salih said the draft oil and gas law is ready and will be approved soon," noting that "After five years this is still important law standstill." The business forum of Iraq's oil, which is organized by the Iraq Institute for Energy sponsored the House of Representatives and the participation of international companies specialized in the affairs of oil and gas sector, has launched on Tuesday, with participants stressed that the forum will play in a thorough review of investment policies in the oil and gas sector, expecting not to Iraq's success in reaching to the level of production, which was announced. In another context, the new Special Representative of the Secretary-General of the United Nations in Iraq Martin Kobler his call for the holding of elections in the disputed areas. 

Kobler said, "The problems in the disputed areas and one of the problems in Iraq and these crises do not help to move forward to develop the country," noting that "the holding of elections in the disputed areas it Waaqid address the political crisis." It is noteworthy that the United Nations Mission in Iraq, had urged in the (December 9, 2012), the Iraqi parliament to approve amendments to the electoral law without delay, to ensure conduct on time, and while some expressed "regret of not conducting the registration of voters in the province of Kirkuk, "announced its support for the upcoming elections. The Presidency of the Council of Representatives, has decided in (13 September 2012), the formation of a sub-committee to study the points of contention on the law of oil and gas and the development of a new draft of the law, while stressing Speaker Osama Nujaifi that the government is serious in working on legislation law by combining two draft project law for two years (2007) and (2011), said First Deputy Chairman of the House of Representatives Qusay al-Suhail said the Cabinet called for the adoption of the 2011 draft only. The implications of the draft law of oil and gas mixed reactions, most unit position of the Kurdistan Alliance and the Presidency Kurdistan region, while predicted the oil and energy parliamentary, to facilitate the new project, which was approved by the government, the flexibility to receive companies wishing to develop the oil industry. 

confirmed the Commission on oil and energy parliamentary, in (6 September 2011), that the draft law of oil and gas provided by the Government to Parliament, involves "constitutional violation" of confiscated right provinces and territories, indicating that it is possible to amend the bill and enrichment to reach a suitable formula is agreed upon between the political blocs. Iraqi government announced, in (28 August 2011), for ratification of the draft law of oil and gas, and decided to submit them to Parliament for approval, while announced Office of the Deputy Prime Minister for Energy Affairs, Hussein al-Shahristani, in the (July 2, 2011), that the government has introduced "some adjustments" on the draft oil law, which is long overdue and reviewed by the Committee on Energy Cabinet. It is noteworthy that out of the dispute between the governments in Baghdad and Erbil due to the oil contracts concluded by the region, which Baghdad deems illegal, while he says the region they are based on the Iraqi constitution and bilateral agreements with the federal government, and fought a severe crisis on oil between Baghdad and Erbil on the back off the Kurdistan region in ( first April 2012) pumping oil until further notice because of differences with Baghdad on financial dues to oil companies operating 


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[BondLady] so the un is slapping them and doing it right before they go up for review to see if they are going to be allowed to come out of ch 7, these are incentive slaps imo to move them forward, same as the disputed areas of article 140 we see daily as barzani and maliki fight daily over and both using the constitution ....each with their interputations of it...for their benefit. but the reality of it is iraq is iraq, kurdistan is with in iraq and they are not their own country.but they don't feel like they should be under iraqs federal law either when it comes to 1 army for iraq which is the iraq army...due to what the kurds endured from saddam they formed their own protection the permerga army.now theres conflicts over the disputed areas and who will guard those and article 140 is tied to the hcl as well as they are all tied to ch 7 too, these things have to be settled and it appears they are being settled with the help of the un and the usa, kurds and bagdad are almost in agreeance per art 140 when they can achieve that then they will be able to achieve the hcl as well and they really are about there imo and not a minute too soon, time flys,player46 found a great article for us yesterday and its posted in the forum too


ty player for this article.... Iraq participate in a meeting of the International Monetary Fund in Amman Published on Wednesday, 12 January 1 / December 2012 11:31 | Written by: Sapreen | | | Hits: 74 BAGHDAD / With: Iraq participates in the meeting of the International Monetary Fund to be held in the Jordanian capital Amman for the third review under the Convention on the Stand-By Arrangement with the International Monetary Fund. A statement by the Office of Financial Supervision today that Chief of Staff Abdul Basit Turki headed a delegation of officials Court to participate in the IMF meeting to be held in Oman for the period from 13-15 of this month with the participation of the Ministry of Finance and Central Bank of Iraq and the House of Representatives.

http://www.mustakbal.net/index.php/2012-05-17-17-37-03/2012-05-17-17-42-38/27666-2012-12-12-11-31-13


[BondLady] so they are on many deadlines as we see.pretty big incentive huh? to get things done as that mandate expires in february and if my understanding is correct then it appears there won't be an extention of it, so the rush to achieve much before the end of the year is apparent in a major way, we've seen in many articles ...iraq calling out to all the voters at the un to help get them out of ch 7
and we've seen them doing it every year and every year the un has told them to keep working on it ...they were progressing but they had a ways to go, then we watched as they gave back to kuwait the areas saddam took from them and saw deals made and agreements reached per the rest of kuwaits reasons to keep them under ch 7 as they paid and agreed on the airlines and paid out millons per that issue
and iraq and kuwait both agreed to both share maintenence of the borders of the areas that were disputed and kuwait also agreed to stop diagonally drilling to reach those wells also which were disputed and all of those things were also..except for the airlines....part of article 140
so iraq made great strides to find mia kuwaitis that saddam had killed and buried in mass unmarked graves and even enlisted the red cresent which is like the red cross...to help them find any other remains and they also gave back any of kuwaits property and gold etc all the things all the things saddam stole when he invaded kuwait there archives also so far it appears they are ready to be released from chapter 7

Zebari calls the ambassadors of the five permanent members to support Iraq's request to get out of Chapter VII 12/10/2012 - 1:32 pm Research and Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, with the ambassadors of the five permanent members of the Security Council, accredited to Iraq, Iraq's efforts and support members of the Security Council out of the provisions of Chapter VII in the areas of disarmament. A statement from the Ministry of the day, that "Zebari met ambassadors of the five permanent members of the Security Council accredited Iraq, and reviewed the Foreign Minister in the presence of agents and advisers ministry Iraq's efforts and support council members out of the provisions of Chapter VII in the areas of disarmament, weapons of mass destruction and the penal system and the blockade The oil-for-food program. " Minister also said that "the rest of the international resolutions, concerning the situation between Iraq and Kuwait." and called on the minister according to the statement ambassadors of the five permanent members to support Iraq's request to get out of the provisions of Chapter VII of terminate the mandate of the Special Coordinator for missing Kuwaiti property and, and file transfer from Chapter VII Chapter VI. " The foreign minister stressed that Iraq is committed bilaterally or through the UN mission UNAMI, to continue research and reveal what remains of missing persons and property and through bilateral cooperation and field with the State of Kuwait. Zebari also said, according to the statement, Iraq's desire to fulfill all its international obligations towards the Security Council, and his commitment to defend the national interests of Iraq http://www.burathanews.com/news_article_177904.html


[BondLady] everyone thats a member of the un can cast a vote but there are 5 permenant members who have veto power and as you see here iraq calls on the fab 5 to release them saying we've done all of what you asked and at great cost to the iraqi people for the past sins of the father...saddam
[BondLady] timmy has did some research per this and ill turn this part of the chat over to her

[tlm724] recently we have seen several articles about removing Iraq from chapter 7, and more specifically about iraq talking to the 5 main voting members of the UN as stated above, those 5 members are The United States of America; the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland; the French Republic ; the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China.
[tlm724] now I will show you some examples of the importance of the vote from the 5 members nations, establishing a motive so to speak



UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Iraq and the United States agree to expand cooperation in the fields of health, agriculture and water and the private sector Date: 28/11/2012 19:35:51 Wednesday Baghdad (news) .. and Iraq have agreed the United States of America, to expand cooperation between the two countries in the fields of health, agriculture, water, and private sector development. A statement by the U.S. embassy in Baghdad, received Agency (news) copy of it on Wednesday: Deputy Prime Minister Saleh al-Mutlaq and Ambassador Robert Stephen Beecroft, opened today, the first meeting of the Joint Coordinating Committee in the areas of services and technology, environment and transport within the Strategic Framework Agreement between the U.S. United States and the Republic of Iraq. The statement said: The two governments have agreed to expand cooperation between the two countries in the fields of health, agriculture, water, and private sector development, while subsequent meetings will focus on high-level cooperation in other areas that fall within the terms of reference of the Committee. http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikhnews.com%2Fnews.php%3Faction%3Dview%26id%3D65222

THE PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA
Law on ratification of the agreement on economic and technical cooperation between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the People's Republic of China Monday November 12, 2012 Presidency Based on what passed the House of Representatives and approved by the President of the Republic and according to the provisions of subsection (I) of Article (61) and item (iii) of Article (73) of the Constitution Issued the following law: No. () for the year 2012 Law Ratify the Convention on Economic and Technical Cooperation between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the People's Republic of China Article 1 ratified the Convention on Economic and Technical Cooperation between the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the People's Republic of China signed in Baghdad on 18/1/2011. Article 2 This law shall be the date of its publication in the Official Gazette. Reasons For the purpose of further development of the friendly relations and ratify the Convention on Economic and Technical Cooperation between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the People's Republic of China. Initiated this lawhttp://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.parliament.iq/


THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION
Iqbal: There are problematic in arms deals with Russia because of Iraq's money in the fund [bfi] under Chapter VII Monday, October 22 1 / Okrudolf 2012 02:38 [Baghdad - where] Said the Iraqi List MP Mohammad Iqbal out there that are problematic in large arms deals with Russia in terms of funding, because Iraq's money is still in the box [bfi] under Chapter VII. He told all of Iraq [where], that "Iraq may not be able to seal the deal, because it is likely to fail, the United States subject, and prevent the transfer of funds to Iraq." He Iqbal said that "arming the Army deal a large amount of more than 4 / / billion dollars raised fears a number of political blocs, and the subject as a whole need to be answered by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, considering that held so great deals must be submitted to the House of Representatives and approved" . "The timing of the purchase so weapons is not appropriate, and the party that signed with agreed upon many notes, because Iraq being around many events, most notably what is happening in Syria, and we fear that influenced politicians directly or indirectly eventful terrible in Syria and this is reflected on the internal situation" . He Iqbal that "reinforcing dangerous and sensitive, especially if the processors are Russia and Eastern European other, because these actors usually Atchetrt on importers how to use the weapon, in addition to the weapons, does not compete with the weapons that come from Europe and America." The government has signed a number of arms deals with the State of Russia and the Czech Republic during a visit by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to them, and Kurdistan Alliance expressed concern large arms deals concluded by the Federal Government with these two countries.http://alliraqnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=55880:-bfi-&catid=41:2011-04-08-17-27-21&Itemid=86


THE FRENCH REPUBLIC
Qusay al-Suhail discuss with the French charge d'affaires in Iraq, ways to enhance bilateral cooperation between the two countries Date: 13/12/2012 13:35:56 Thursday Baghdad (news) .. Search First Deputy Speaker of Parliament Dr. Qusay al-Suhail with the charge d'affaires French in Iraq Allen Boklr bilateral relations between the two countries and ways of enhancing them in various fields. statement said the Office of Media First Deputy received Agency (news) copy of it, that Suhail confirmed during a meeting with Charge d'Affaires French the need to strengthen bilateral cooperation in various areas of mutual interest and importance of opening prospects for cooperation to serve the two countries. Dr. Suhail the importance of helping the international community, especially France to exit Iraq from Chapter VII. statement added: During the meeting review the latest developments on the political arena and developments at the international, regional and keen the two countries to strengthen relations. his part expressed Boklr pleased with this meeting and expressed his country's desire to enhance cooperation and continuous coordination for the development and progress of bilateral relations between the two sides. http://www.ikhnews.com/news.php?action=view&id=67108

External: France has pledged to find a solution to the problem of frozen Iraqi funds have Date: Friday, 13-07-2012 12: 50 pm Baghdad (News) ... The Ministry said Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Gunn received a promise from the French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius to find a solution to the problem of frozen Iraqi funds in France. In a statement on Friday received (News Agency news) a copy of: the Minister Zebari met with the French Minister in Paris, bilateral relations and the political and security situation in Iraq and prospects for the future. The statement said the two sides stressed: the depth and history of relations between the two countries, and the need to develop in all fields, especially economic side and encourage French companies to take part in Iraq reconstruction projects. The statement said: the Minister has promised Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, in finding a solution to the problem of frozen Iraqi funds in France, with the invitation to visit lvabios Zebari, Iraq, and said he was happy to accept it and looked forward to the visit. The statement said: discussed regional situations and specific crisis situation in Syria and the repercussions of this situation: daily for the entire region and Mr. Minister to Iraq's position in support of Arabic and international resolutions and the initiative of Mr. Kofi Annan to find a solution to the crisis and support democratic political transformation. Added: discussed the Iranian nuclear file, the Minister stressed the importance of finding a solution to its importance and its impacts on Iraq and on the security of the region as the two sides stressed the importance of moving the Middle East peace negotiations between Palestinians and Israelis. Wezirkharget France confirmed its desire and communicate with the Iraqi Government and the consultation and exchange of views on developments in the region and directly between the two Foreign Ministershttp://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=ar&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikhnews.com%2Fnews.php%3Faction%3Dview%26id%3D48509


THE UNITED KINGDOM OF GREAT BRITAIN AND NORTHERN IRELAND
Barzani: We very important to the relationship with Ireland On: Wed, 10/26/2011 6:38  Erbil / long head of the Kurdistan region Masoud Barzani during a meeting with the Irish delegation led by Trade Minister Arlene "Kurdistan is considered of great importance to bilateral relations with Northern Ireland, noting that there is a suitable platform to enhance and strengthen the bonds of those relationships. He added that the Kurdistan region of great strides are made and good in all areas and that the process of reconstruction, building and construction are ongoing in various sectors, so the region welcomed the participation of Britain in general and the Northern Ireland region, in particular to provide all facilities to contribute to this process. During the meeting which was attended by Chris Bowers, the British Consul-General in the region, the visiting delegation was pleased to visit Kurdistan, adding that the objectives of his visit came to share the territory of Northern Ireland at the Erbil International Fair VII, and hoped it would be to visit them and their participation in this show positive results for both sides. The visiting delegation also pointed out that the Kurdistan region safe and prosperous, prompting large numbers of companies and investors from foreign countries to come to the region, including Britain, which hopes to build good relations with the region. The delegation added that the past of Northern Ireland and the Kurdistan region is similar to a large extent, so it is through coordination and raise the prospects of economic cooperation and trade cooperation we can send a strong message, clear to the wider world. http://almadapaper.net/ar/



[tlm724] these articles are perfect examples of the importance not only to iraq but to these UN members countries to vote for Iraq's removal from chapter 7, these 5 member states have every reason to vote in iraqs favor 
[BondLady] tyvm for your research and hard work timmy,so as you see daily in these articles we post for you all, as we watch which countries invest in iraq and whos contracts get approved etc....all of these countries timmy just showed you have invested in iraq , in its infrastructure and its oil and gas projects and many other things ..housing, electrical etc......the fab 5....their all invested...and iraqs calling them out to come help them out of chapter 7....think they will? ...



[BondLady] ok now moving on to the next thing let me grab it, while im at it, i had another piece to the hcl puzzle

[BondLady] Member of the Commission on oil and energy: oil and gas law will be approved in the next legislative term 12/12/2012 Khandan - announced a member of the Oil and Energy Committee in the Iraqi Council of Representatives, the coming days will witness the movements of the committee to reach a draft oil and gas law and approved in the next legislative term, because the end of the current chapter will see preoccupation budget for fiscal "2013." said committee member MP the Supreme Council Furat al-Shara told the "Khandan": that reached choose the draft law of oil and gas needed to hold a session dedicated to the oil and gas committee to agree on the points of contention, explaining: that after concerns many budget federal witness coming days mobility within the Commission to reach a agreement on a formula law, passed in the next legislative term of the Council of Representatives. said Shara, that the Committee of Five, which was formed from the legislative and executive branches, to reach a selection of one of the drafts of the law, held two meetings, did not announce the end of its work or its mandated. http://xendan.org/arabic/drejaA.aspx?=hewal&jmara=10064&Jor=2

[BondLady] ok 1st while we're disucussing chapter 7 still i've asked shredd to talk about Un chapter 6 and article 14 of the IMFas well and then we will turn this part of the chat over to shredd

[tlm724] 12/11/2012 Mubarak: We support lifting of international sanctions on Iraq BAGHDAD - morning demanded Baghdad officially move to Chapter VI of the Charter of the United Nations after the fulfillment of all obligations. comes at a time announced the Kuwaiti Prime Minister Jaber Mubarak Al-Hamad Al-Sabah his government was ready to help Iraq out of Chapter VII. said blessed in a press statement to "forward towards positive steps concrete during his upcoming visit to the Republic of Iraq brother especially with regard to domain Economic and closure of outstanding issues," explaining that "no guilt for our future generations acts and crimes committed by the regime bloody earlier at an earlier stage we seek to overcome." He expressed blessed "willingness to cooperate the new government in all that would remove Iraq from Chapter VII according frameworks diplomacy and international resolutions issued by the UN", estimated at the same time "efforts by the Iraqi government to cooperate in order to achieve this goal." And revealed the Kuwaiti Prime Minister for "Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network," the week before last, went Iraq and Kuwait to sign bilateral agreements task between the two countries this month, saying: "I have visited Iraq this month, and will send the visit an important message that that Kuwait did not have any problems with the Iraqi people but was with the former regime has gone, "he" should forget the past and embark on a wide space, and our duty to forget the past and look to the future, and there is no other way but to join forces between the two countries and the two peoples brothers. "is due to be holding talks" significant "between Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and blessed. expected that yielded the talks between the two sides for closing files stuck years ago, paving to remove Iraq from Chapter VII. in the meantime, he met Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari in the headquarters of the ministry ambassadors of the five permanent members of the Security Council accredited Iraq. reviewed Zeb
http://www.alsabaah.com/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=40505

[tlm724] called ambassadors of the five permanent members to support Iraq's request to get out of the provisions of Chapter VII for the termination of the mandate of the Special Coordinator for missing Kuwaiti property and transfer the file of Chapter VII to Chapter VI.
Shredd] yes, and Miss T, you had some definitions of these in our email, do you think you could paste those excerpts?
[Shredd] while Miss T is grabbing that, keep in mind these statements are made outside of a scheduled session ,just the format of this statement and the weight of it is super and with the upcoming UN session, great timing



[tlm724] The Charter of the United Nations CHAPTER VI: PACIFIC SETTLEMENT OF DISPUTES Article 33 The parties to any dispute, the continuance of which is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, shall, first of all, seek a solution by negotiation, enquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements, or other peaceful means of their own choice. The Security Council shall, when it deems necessary, call upon the parties to settle their dispute by such means. Article 34 The Security Council may investigate any dispute, or any situation which might lead to international friction or give rise to a dispute, in order to determine whether the continuance of the dispute or situation is likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security.
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter6.shtml


[Shredd] so as you read this above, you can see the thesis of the disputes under VII have to be settled to move on to VI
and we know what the list behind VII is, right? and we see that there is resolution to the point of not endangering the ongoing progress as far as peace and security so, this move is monumental, Bondlady has done so many chats on this
what is outstanding under VII and moving from thi chapter to VI is the opening act for what we all have been waiting on

tlm724] ok this is article 14 of the IMF

[tlm724] Article XIV: Transitional Arrangements Section 1. Notification to the Fund Each member shall notify the Fund whether it intends to avail itself of the transitional arrangements in Section 2 of this Article, or whether it is prepared to accept the obligations of Article VIII, Sections 2, 3, and 4. A member availing itself of the transitional arrangements shall notify the Fund as soon thereafter as it is prepared to accept these obligations. Section 2. Exchange restrictions A member that has notified the Fund that it intends to avail itself of transitional arrangements under this provision may, notwithstanding the provisions of any other articles of this Agreement, maintain and adapt to changing circumstances the restrictions on payments and transfers for current international transactions that were in effect on the date on which it became a member. Members shall, however, have continuous regard in their foreign exchange policies to the purposes of the Fund, and, as soon as conditions permit, they shall take all possible measures to develop such commercial and financial arrangements with other members as will facilitate international payments and the promotion of a stable system of exchange rates. In particular, members shall withdraw restrictions maintained under this Section as soon as they are satisfied that they will be able, in the absence of such restrictions, to settle their balance of payments in a manner which will not unduly encumber their access to the general resources of the Fund. 
[tlm724] http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/aa/index.htm#art30

Shredd] you all probably see the key line in this
[Shredd] Members shall, however, have continuous regard in their foreign exchange policies to the purposes of the Fund, and, as soon as conditions permit, they shall take all possible measures to develop such commercial and financial arrangements with other members as will facilitate international payments and the promotion of a stable system of exchange rates. 
[Shredd] so, for those of you who have been on with us for the chats we've done around the banking and investment laws do you see how this fits in to the big picture we are painting for you? a stable system of exchange rates,the word stable and Iraq have not fit together very well in the past right but we've been spelling out to you what the global investment world is looking for stability which means regulation, safety, protection, and the promise of return right?
[Shredd] so tyvm Miss T (timmy lol) for bringing in these definitions and be sure to follow the links for those to read the exhaustive language, but again, so many peeps in this investment have tunnell vision looking at the gurus and the date and rate stuff but when you piece all of this together like we have here it fits....pieces of the puzzle,a stable system of exchange rates has so much represented behind a country and what it has done to pull itself from the ruins of war and dictatorship
so a sovereign nation, a stable currency,an emerging powerhouse,ty Bondlady

[BondLady] tyvm,awsome job an great team work ty both,ok now lets move on to some more things

[BondLady] keeping in mind that everything we're discussing all goes together in one way or another,they are all pieces of this whole puzzle we call our investment and without anyone of these things we can't hope to achieve our wants in all this and we are watching all things come to life and i am so excited about all these events and you all should be too, now let me bring in some other articles as we move into the banking parts of this chat , in our last chat we did i talked a little bit about a rumor/intel
about the new money supposedly was printed at the 1st of november and was shipped in the last part of november, most know i usually will never do that but as our research took us to many parts of the world, i found there was a great possibility of some truth to this and we shared a small portion of what we knew and all this week and last we've saw the cbi and the new proxy gov or whatever you want to call him in shabibis absence,making monetary changes and laws getting passed with the blessings of the gov. as there was much bad blood between the gov and shabibi,when we 1st heard of the arrest warrents put out on shabibi we found it just too hard to believe and i had to make extensive calls to verify that and get foreign opinons on why which i told you all about ,many had said they didn't like shabibis policy that he was set to go to slow on making the dinar worth more or was going to go lower than there expectations or possibly just rd or lop and from the ones i spoke too the majority said they believd that when the 000 's came off the currency the currency would go back to what it was before they were put on restrictions,the new cbi/gov 
has a good working relationship with the government and they have been saying yes to just about everything he has said and hey if its gonna bring on our rv faster than when shabibi had the reigns then i'm all for it and we can all move on with our lives


Raise The Price Of The Iraqi Dinar Against The Dollar As Possible BAGHDAD - Iraq News Network: parliamentary Finance Committee confirmed on Thursday that the situation of the Iraqi dinar against the U.S. dollar is stable, noting that raise the price against the dollar was possible. A member of the Finance Committee secretary Hadi said that "the central bank administered by the new managed to control the situation and stabilize the exchange rate after witnessed tension during the crisis raised against the previous administration and suspicions of corruption that kept the bank governor and his deputy and a group of employees, but the situation this period has become more stable. " He added that "the central bank governor received authorization to raise the price of the dinar safety of the dollar due to the fact that the option mentioned possible at the present time as well as the presence of the bank's intentions to raise the value of the Iraqi dinar long as previous years have seen a rise in value against the dollar." He pointed out that "the central bank governor will have the option under this authorization in choosing the appropriate time to raise the price of the dinar and it will determine when and how this step is done based on his experience in his field. http://malware-site.www/2012/12/%D8%B1%D9%81%D8%B9-%D8%B3%D8%B9%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%8A%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B9%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%82%D9%8A-%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%85-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D9%85/

[BondLady] is that just not an awesome lil news read,the gov is giving their blessing to the cbi to raise the dinar exchange rate and to do it when he sees fit too, do it their all good with it,now what have i always taught you? never forget what drives them......power and greed and as i've said many times in the past ...sadly enough knowing that greed would probably be of benefit to us as investors and it is kinda looking like that holds water we just don't know to what extent............YET
CENTRAL BANK OF IRAQ LAUNCHES MECHANISM TO SUPPORT LOCAL BANKS Iraq, December 13, 2012 The Central Bank of Iraq decided to include a number of local banks in the foreign currency auction and increase the financial shares granted to the banking companies. A statement by the CBI cited “Within the framework of the CBI’s efforts to develop its monetary policy and support the national economy, the managing council of the Bank took many measures including attracting several local banks through opening the bonds and financing them by the CBI according to specific mechanism set for this purpose in addition to allow these banks to take part in the currency auction.” “It was also decided to grant the governor of the CBI power to decrease the US dollar price which is IQD 1179 for one dollar as an enhancement to the cost of the Iraqi dinar according to the requirements of the market,” the statement concluded http://www.iraqdailyjournal.com/story-z6834408


[BondLady] shredd do u have any thing to add so far?
[Shredd] well, not really except to agree that it is so great to see that Turki is moving on and has overcome the drama of the removal of shabbs and has his blessing
it's in black and white, on the above article...we see here that the bank took measures including attracting several local banks through the opening of bonds and financing them that's the basis of financing folks so everyone's at the table and the appetizer is being served

[BondLady] heres another article pertaining to the above....where it talks about lines of credit and that the cbi will back this event with a few banks at first to see how it goes and if its successful then he will bring in more banks and do the same thing and let iraq establish not only credit and also will help them with there international credit scores but also paves way for the infrastructure law which is all about paying on credit



[BondLady] Central Bank authorizes the governor to reduce the dollar exchange rate to enhance the value of the dinar Wednesday, 12 January 1 / December 2012 10:57 [Baghdad - where] Iraqi central bank decided to cover a number of private banks Bmzadeh public for the sale of foreign currency and increase the financial stake of the auction granted to the exchange companies and authorize the Governor of the Bank to reduce the price of the dollar against the Iraqi dinar. A statement from the Bank received the agency all of Iraq [where] a copy of it on Wednesday, "that as part of the keenness and the pursuit of the Iraqi Central Bank in the development of his tools in the monetary policy and support the national economy stable market took the Board of Directors of this bank are many decisions which "encourage Iraqi banks [Baghdad, and credit, and Mansour] as a first stage and later include all licensed banks to open letters of credit and funded by the Central Bank of Iraq in accordance with the mechanism designed for this purpose, in addition to the continuation of these banks in the entry window sale of foreign currency, currency auction. " 
The House of Representatives form a parliamentary committee headed by First Deputy President of the Council Qusay al-Suhail to investigate the process of money laundering in the Central Bank and the charges of corruption and officials' involvement dollar purchases in the currency auction. The cabinet decided earlier mandated Chairman of the Board of Supreme Audit Abdul Basit Turki Department of the Central Bank of Iraq to succeed former Governor Sinan al-Shabibi. The [where] published on 19 November last secret document relating to the special report prepared by the parliamentary Allganh responsible for monitoring the central bank policy and the exchange rates of the dollar and the auction. And requests the President of the House of Representatives Osama Najafi in this document by the President of the Integrity Commission to open an investigation detailed and high level of professionalism, on condition of allowing leaking of the report and investigation procedures by the Commission to the media and political parties.http://www.alliraqnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=61258:2012-12-12-07-57-55&catid=37:2011-04-08-17-25-57&Itemid=56

[BondLady] now this cbi gov is doing a lot of changes and shabibi isn't happy about it, shabs says that its the wrong monetary policy for iraq he says his is right
and if it was true shabibi wanted to slow grow like he had been doing all these years and the rest of them says basically he was moving too slow ,, more slower than they wanted to go. then a lot is making sense here



[BondLady] The CBI site has a new announcement on the arabic side dated 12/11/2012, it is in arabic and I cannot translate. Here is the link http://www.cbi.iq/documents/press%20for%2011-12-2012.pdf Headline: News & announcements-2012 Press release about the Bank's Management Council adopted several resolutions under caution and the CBI has sought to develop tools in monetary policy and support the national market economy 2012/12/11 

Shabibi: Permit the new central bank governor to reduce the sale price of the dollar is wrong Author: HM Editor: CC Thursday 13 k 1 2012 11:30 GMT Former central bank governor Sinan al-Shabibi Alsumaria News / Baghdad regarded former central bank governor issued an arrest warrant Shabibi, Thursday, a resolution authorizing the new governor the power to reduce the sale price of the dollar, "wrong", stressing that this economic decision, as he emphasized that the authority of the Board of Directors higher than the authority of the province. Shabibi said in an interview for "Alsumaria News", "Central Bank's decision last judge authorizing governor new power to reduce the sale price of the dollar is wrong," asserting that "the decision to reduce the dollar economic and not administratively." and authorized the Central Bank of Iraq, in December 11 ongoing , governor validity reduce the sale price of the dollar and of the present 1179 dinars to the dollar, in a move designed to enhance the value of the dinar based on market demands. stressed Shabibi "the need to study issues related to monetary policy, including reducing the price of the dollar, as well as follow-up of prices and inflation accurately, must also take into consideration the price developments and exchange rate in local markets ", pointing out that it" may not give these powers to one person in a day and a night to decide what he wants.
He Shabibi that "the bank's board is to decide this policy after carefully studied as the body High in the Central Bank and not the governor. " was Shabibi threatened, Wednesday, resort to "all means" if not resolved his case in Iraq, stressing that it was exceeded immunity bank in the country. and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, in the (November 5, 2012) , that heads a large fall in the issue of the central bank, pointing out that he is not acting funds Iraqi, but had no information on the size or the location of the deposit. referred to the Supreme Judicial Council confirmed, in (19 last October), the issuance of an arrest warrant against the central bank governor and a number of officials in corruption cases. noteworthy that the Iraqi Central Bank was established under the law issued on the sixth of March of the year 2004, as an independent body and is responsible for maintaining price stability and the implementation of monetary policy, including exchange rate policies and management of foreign reserves and the issuance of currency management, Add to regulate the banking sector to promote a competitive financial system and independentlyhttp://www.alsumarianews.com/ar/3/52922/news-details-.html

[BondLady] see what i'm saying? shabibi has done a totally awesome job all these years of keeping iraqs economy safe and inflation in check but its always been at a slow growth pace and for the last 3 years the cbi and the gov have had bad blood...so if the new gov or proxy gov can get us in and out of this investment faster then i'm all for it, and its been a long long time coming for us and for iraq, although i believe shabibi is innocent and above reproach and a honorable man in everyway, i'm tending to believe that he was totally slow grow 
Economist: Hbibi entitled to resort to the United Nations if it does not solve the problem internally Date: Thursday, 13/12/2012 05:08 pm Bank Governor article: There lawyers pursuing cases citizen - Alaa Fadel still cause the central bank react and accommodate them to take on an international dimension as likely an economist to reach its repercussions to the International Monetary Fund at a time threatened Bank Governor Sinan al-Shabibi Wednesday, resorting to «all means» If you do not solve his case within the country, saying that the immunity of the bank has been exceeded in Iraq. said economic expert Hilal Taan's (citizen): »The CBI linked Besndq International Monetary therefore entitled to bank governor to resort to the United Nations if not solved his problem internally». added » that the right of the Development Fund for Iraq intervention this side ». explaining» that fund Iraq form in 2003 to save the Iraqi funds from international piracy ». stressing» he is entitled to this fund intervention issues central bank as long as Iraq under Chapter VII ». likely» reaction this issue and its implications for up to the International Monetary Fund, the UN ». of said central bank governor article Shabibi in a press statement», that «there lawyers pursuing cases», pointing out that «the central bank has immunity in his work and in accordance with Article 23 of the Central Bank Law , and that this immunity is not in the bank only, but in the central banks in general ». stressed Shabibi it« has been exceeded this immunity with us and went to the extent arrests », threatening b» resorting to all means if not resolved the issue within the country, and we felt no justice and the type of impact on the bank's reputation. Shabibi was recently confirmed, that he will return to Iraq to defend the central bank to maintain economic stability. http://almowatennews.com/news.php?action=view&id=53087

[BondLady] he has a right to be mad, his reputation was and always had been above reproach and i believe he still is, but again as i said, the people didn't feel he was moving fast enough IMO and that also IMO they didn't approve of his monetary policy he had been set to do and the government would never give him their blessings to do so, but as you see the cbi gov sitting in has all their blessings and passed the laws they wouldn't for shabibi but did for this mr turki now controlling the cbi
[BondLady] and again from my conversations with others the iraqis believed when the 000's came off it was back to being able to enjoy a good and prosperous life and have greater spending power...more bang for there buck (dinar)
[BondLady] any thing you want to add shredd before i move us to the final read ?
[Shredd] the part of Shabbs not moving fast enough doesn't that fit right in with what we've been showing you? the pace has picked up ,the foundation has been laid and imo, most of this year, shabbs has been getting more and more pressure and like Bondlady says, if his cautious pace was not good enough and the impatience of Maliki and co wanted to remove the delay then so be it for me
[BondLady] fine by me too 
[Shredd] now, shabbs is smart and is highly regarded so, as a wise economist he is conservative mitigating risk at all angles
[BondLady] i want my money and i want it now just like they do, 10 yrs is a long time for them to wait and for us
[Shredd] right but also in economics high risk equals high reward so hopefully that will hold true here, i believe it will too many powers pushing this
[BondLady] they have accomplished huge things this year and they have accepted many many high dollar contracts thats going to make all these countries and iraq a ton of money and also rebuild iraq better and bigger and newer than ever before, the oil boom has hit iraq and money will be flowing everywhere, i don't think slow grow would have done it not at the rate iraq is expanding
[Shredd] Dubai part 2
[BondLady] and again iraq is their own worst enemy too they have fought since the beginning and they will still fight in the end we can't change that, its in their dna to be that way and its how they settle things even if its through blood shed, so this brings us to the end and the last article i had to show you all, the rumor i spoke of earlier, player46 our administrator and newshound as you know her and a fine one at that...found this article last night and posted it



[BondLady] Of cases of financial corruption ... Storage 7 trucks for the new coin in the central bank since 2005 A source familiar that issues of financial corruption too many in the Central Bank Governor Sinan al-Shabibi, the source told Voice of the Iraqi community, said the bank had a deal receiving coin new, were received from Safwan in Basra province in 2005, and was composed of 7 trucks filled coin, which could reach billions, were received that money, but when you get to the city of Baghdad, have been attacking trucks by terrorists, and after the battle claimed the lives of three members of protection they both cream and Fred and judgments Mandalawi, and seized terrorists on three trucks from seven .After investigation and not use the currency, gang were arrested and three trucks responded to the central bank, and added to the four trucks and such money remained up to this moment in the warehouses of the Central Bank were not used in Iraq.The source said that the coin-class fifty dinars and a hundred and fifty dinars, and wondered how much money went to the work of this currency, and did not benefit the Iraqi people http://www.iraaqi.com/news.php?id=1309&news=1#.UMkeE-PjnYE

[Shredd] "and such money remained up to this moment in the warehouses of the Central Bank were not used in Iraq", up to this moment

[BondLady] will they release the new money soon or hold it longer and risk terrorist or criminals hijacking it or stealing from it and losing out on the millons of dollars it cost to print it by theft and robbing the people of it, will they ? ... i think they are about too IMO and i feel like we have some great things about to happen for iraq and for us
the news just gets better and better everyday now that the cbi and the gov are working together and soon we shall see article 140 done and the hcl as well and that will hopefully take us and them on out of ch 7 ,so in closing i thank all my team for the countless hours they have given to each of us and all the research it takes to do one of our massive chats... i hope you all understand and enjoy our work we do for you here at our corner.... ty all