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Monday, December 10, 2012

This will happen prior to the 17th; around the 15th and that the dong and dinar will go together, 10 DEC

This will happen prior to the 17th; around the 15th and that the dong and dinar will go together
12-10-2012 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 there is another group of investors that have been told this will happen prior to the 17th around the 15 and that the dong and dinar will go together but apply caution with this information because as i have already said i can’t confirm any of this but i trust the peeps that recieved the information?… problem is i don’t know their sources.
I have been on the phone for much of two days now and have not recieved one thing that hasn’t already been shared, most are still thinking between now and the 24th of dec. And some thinking the first week of 2013 but these are just them making guesses according to details they have that point to those dates being the best opertunity for the rv . I agree with them much of the dates stated with events taking place in that time period does make them sound good. Like the ban ki moon international announcement of some kind to be announced around the 17th of this month?

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 10 DEC


12-10-2012 Dinar Guru News Flash **  "After 16 years, the United States lifted its ban on commercial flights to Iraq" The FAA has deemed the Kurdistan region to be safe enough to land commercial airlines!  Slowly but surely Iraq is opening up and being discovered!  No official word from the gurus on when Iraq will be released from Ch7 sanctions...stay tuned and we'll keep you up to date on the latest...if you are not a Dinar Guru member get yourself signed up in the blue box above. 
12-10-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   there is another group of investors that have been told this will happen prior to the 17th around the 15 and that the dong and dinar will go together but apply caution with this information because as i have already said i can't confirm any of this but i trust the peeps that recieved the information?... problem is i don't know their sources.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

12-10-2012  Intel Guru BWM   FOREX is complicated in that, unlike the stock market, the offices internationally are not on one complete system but they update together almost instantaneously.  Netdania is not an official FOREX site. Retail FOREX doesn't mean diddly to you and I.  My point isn't that the numbers are COMPLETELY useless. It's just that I don't think (per FOREX contact) that they will give us the indicators we need as quickly as we hope. They are like any other indicator, a sign, just not THE sign and I don't get excited when the numbers pop up or change there. I want it at the bank where it matters most to me.

12-10-2012  Intel Guru BWM   I know that many were counting on seeing this on Forex open today [Sunday] but after discussing with a contact this morning there are a couple of things you need to understand.  First, Forex has two sides, a retail side (tradeable) and the banking side which is what "communicates with the institutions on the rates and such... this contact believes that it will be a short time before the rate shows on the "retail" side as the rate settles in. So just hang on and know you will receive communication WHEN this occurs.

12-10-2012  Intel Guru Blaino    Rv or float...which solves the problems the best?   rv:  tens of thousands of people all trying to get into banks, currency exchanges at the same time...clawing, fighting, threatening.   float:  some will exchange at 5 cents, some at 25 CENTS...More at 50, ETC.  SO, As the bidding, selling, etc. runs the price UP And DOWN, Fluctuating it's way to a future value mebby around $4+...those that deem the value sufficient at a given moment will exchange and those that do not will wait or do some, then later MORE.  And this will serve as a buffer to the economy of IRAQ Allowing time to adjust.   the good news is that many people that never heard of the iqd will come into those markets to BUY Creating upward pressure.  if they cut it loose, we could easilly see a dollar before the 1st of january! 

12-10-2012  Newshound Guru Med    I SEE THAT THIS ISSUE OF THE 67 BILLION IS BECOMING A MAJOR ISSUE, MOST BELIEVE THAT IT IS WHAT MALIKI IS AFTER BUT HOW STUPID COULD HE BE.  WHAT THEY DID WITH SHABIBI HAS HURT THE REPUTATION OF CBI VERY BADLY.  7 YRS OF HARD WORK BY SHABIBI AND IT TOOK ONE MONTH TO UNDO IT.  HE DID AN HONEST JOB.   IT WAS OBVIOUS WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT, IF YOU ARE CORRUPT AND YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO DOESNT WANT TO BE PART OF IT YOU FRAME HIM AND AS MUCH AS I HATE THE CONSPIRACY STUFF THIS WAS, A MAJOR CONSPIRACY.  [Glad UN/WB is there to protect the assets]  I AM TOO...I KNOW WE HAVE THOUSANDS WHO ARE COUNTING ON THIS IN THE FUTURE.

12-10-2012  Intel Guru BWM    [is it your belief that this is past Iraq and they are waiting for a green light? yes...the situation is simple...we know for a fact that a country can be RV'd within certain conditions.  [So a Rate is on the (tradable) at this time?  Just not the retail side?]   no... it can be on both...but cannot be active without being on the banking side FIRST...and while there have been a number of indicators showing...the fact is that it is not LIVE AND tradable at this time... yet   [with the activity that is currently happening on the banking side of the forex are you encouraged that we will see a live rate post tonight or in the next couple of days?]   been here before...the hope is that with all the information that continues to back it up that we are close...but we will just have to see.

12-10-2012  Intel Guru TerryK     IM HEARING IT WILL SHOW TUE...SO WHAT I WAS TOLD MAYBE TRUE  NOT A RUMOR,  TUESDAY HAD TO HAPPEN ONE DAY.  I UNDERSTAND THAT FOREX IS SEEING IT AND I JUST NOW TOLD U TOO MUCH.

IT WILL SHOW TUESDAY, 10 DEC

12-10-12 TerryK: I’M HEARING IT WILL SHOW TUE SO WHAT I WAS TOLD MAYBE TRUE NOT A RUMOR. TUESDAY HAD TO HAPPEN ONE DAY. I UNDERSTAND THAT FOREX IS SEEING IT AND I JUST NOW TOLD U TOO MUCH.

RV OR FLOAT WHICH SOLVES THE PROBLEMS THE BEST? , 10 DEC


12-10-12 Blaino: RV or float…which solves the problems the best?
RV: Tens of thousands of people all trying to get into banks, currency exchanges at the same time clawing, fighting, threatening.
Float: Some will exchange at 5 cents, some at 25 CENTS, more at 50, etc.
SO, as the bidding, selling, etc. runs the price UP And DOWN, fluctuating its way to a future value mebby around $4+ those that deem the value sufficient at a given moment will exchange and those that do not will wait or do some, then later MORE. And this will serve as a buffer to the economy of IRAQ allowing time to adjust.
The good news is that many people that never heard of the IQD will come into those markets to BUY creating upward pressure. If they cut it loose, we could easily see a dollar before the 1st of January!

THE VND IS WORTH IN THE $.57 CENTS RANGE IF IT GOES LIVE, 10 DEC

[sunny] mailboxmoney I just redid calculations. The bid is at .57 cents and the ask is at .775ish. That means your VND is worth in the .57 range if it goes live at that quote. That is a .15 cent increase from what it showed last night and up to 11 am EST this morning.

 [telemar59] Sunny I went to netdania and then the quote page, Then I clicked add quote and went to the VND but it does not show being paired to the USD.

 [misskitty05] sunny is the bid rate what we would be paid when we exchange?

 [sunny] misskitty05 The bid may be negotiable at your bank by a few cents higher. Not lower. Nothing is in stone till it goes live, tradeable and recognized by the UST.

[misskitty05] sunny sounding good

 [misskitty05] sunny yes thanks... just trying to understand the terminology :)

[RFrost] sunny looks interesting 

[sunny] misskitty05 Right now, the spread between the bid/ask rate is 20+ cents. That is the dealers to play with, depending on how much he wants out of the trade. That has increased from last nights spread of .10 cents. Could stay, decrease or increase. 

 [sananddan24] sunny ty just be glad when it goes live

[BLESSME] Sunny can you tell from netdania when it is live?

[sunny] sananddan24 AMEN to that!

[sunny] BLESSME Yes, it is a real time live feed. Maybe a 5 second delay behind the UST or banks. 

[misskitty05] sunny I've heard that upon exchange banks will often split the spread. Does that sound right?

the spread. Does that sound right?

[sunny] misskitty05 I have no experience in that area. Just as a FOREX trader and past President of Houston Trading Club.

 [RFrost] sunny in your experience have you seen anything like this before on the forex?

[misskitty05] sunny rof .. thanks for the info.. it 's moving in the right direction

 [sunny] RFrost I've never been through a RV like this before. Often a currency fluctuates on political and economic news. Just like a stock will on the Dow Jones or other market. In FOREX there is a hard and fast rule for day/short term traders. It's, GET OUT before the weekend. 

 [sunny] RFrost A currency is often adjusted on the weekend and may close stable Fri. afternoon and then Sunday evening "gap up/down" significantly. If your on the wrong side of the trade and unprotected you lose your shirt.

 [nolaspice] okay everyone - we are facing the right direction - we just gotta keep walking!! live is great and getting better! keep our thoughts positive and our hearts ready. be ready and be WORTHY!

 [sunny] KajunRedBull per dollar. It's showing paired with the dollar.

DISCUSSION OF MED, 10 DEC


Med (20:36:16): WELL I WOULD SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IRAQ AND THE DINAR BUT ALL I CAN SAY AND I AM LAUGHING RIGHT NOW IS HOLY ****THIS IS LIKE MAKING HOBO STEW

W8n2cashin: (H) oh oh
junebug: what a mess...................
 
Med:ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING NAME A CRIME THIS WOULD BE A GREAT JEOPARDY MALIKI FOR 200 OR IN WHOSE JANITORIAL CABINET DID THEY FIND 2 MILLION IN MISSING ANTIQUITIES OR IN WHAT COUNTRY DID 273 MILLION USD GET SMUGGLED INTO

junebug: Med, who is going to take the lead and get this done?

Bam Bam: lol I remember that hard to forget you have Missing antiquittes in my Kitchen closet lol
 
Med:HMMM RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TALIBANI BARZANI SADRALLAWI AND NAJAFI

THOSE MEN HONESTLY ARE ALL CAPABLE OF REMOVING MALIKI - NAJAF IS THE MAN FOR ME HE HAS THE POWER OF PARLIAMENTAND WITH TALIBANI MAKING THE MOVE TO HAVE A VOTE - 

SADR NEEDS TO BRING HIS 40 I AM A BIT SURPRISED HERE THOUGH ABOUT THE UN IS WHAT BAN KI MOON STATED ACCURATE OR NOT OR JUST FOR SHOW ONE THING I NEED TO FIND OUT FOR SURE IS THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE UN COMING IN TRUE OF NOT
 
junebug: to be continued lol

  Med: THEN WE HAVE THE STATEMENT THAT THIS WAS NOT TRUE BUT OBVIOUSLY IT WAS FROM THE NA I WAS A BIT MIFFED FOR ONE THING I KNOW THAT THE UN GAVE A GOOD RECOMMENDATION ON SHABIBI BUT THEN HE SAYS IF YOU ARREST HIM IT IS OK

  W8n2cashin: hmm
  jesse888: hmmm

  Med: CUZ IT IS A SOVEREIGN ISSUE BUT IF THEY DO AUDIT AND INVESTIGATE AND WHAT IF THE IMF AND WHAT IF THE WORLD BANK SAYS ALL WAS OK

ALSO I SEE THAT THIS ISSUE OF THE 67 BILLION IS BECOMING A MAJOR ISSUE MOST BELIEVE THAT IT IS WHAT MALIKI IS AFTER BUT HOW STUPID COULD HE BE

HE CANT GO ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD TO SPEND IT EXCEPT MAYBE IRAN HONEST TO YOU ALL -  RIGHT NOW JUST TAKE IT ON THE CHIN ENJOY YOUR HOLIDAYS THIS IS GONNA BE A MINOR MESS FOR A FEW WEEKS

W8n2cashin: yup..good time to take a break

Med: SOMEONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW UP TO THIS GUNFIGHT THIS TIME WITH SOME AMMO LAST TIME THEY SHOT SO MANY BLANKS THE SAFEST PLACE TO BE WAS IN FRONT OF THIER GUN

Med:I MEAN IT LETS JUST SIT BACK AND PRETEND WE ARE ALL AT THE ZOO IN FRONT OF THE MONKEY CAGE AND YOU KNOW HOW THOSE MONKEYS SCRATCH 

Bam Bam: dont feed the monKies
 
Med: THAT IS WHAT I FELL LIKE I AM WATCHING A BUNCH OF MONKEYS SCRATCHING
 
junebug: maybe we will get a great surprise, and it will all be over before u can blink....

Med: AND JB THAT IS TRUE BUT TO BE HONEST WHAT THEY DID WITH SHABIBI

Bam Bam: I tried that I blinked twice just now and it aint over lol

  Med: HAS HURT THE REPUTATION OF CBI VERY BADLY 7 YRS OF HARD WORK BY SHABIBI AND IT TOOK ONE MONTH
 
Bam Bam: when Shabibi came along with all the courption I was happy to seen him and what he was doing

  Med: TO UNDO IT HE DID AN HONEST JOB

  Bam Bam: yes he did I was supprised
 
Med: IT WAS OBVIOUS WHAT THIS WAS ALL ABOUT IF YOU ARE CORRUPT AND YOU HAVE SOMEONE WHO DOESNT WANT TO BE PART OF IT YOU FRAME HIM AND AS MUCH AS I HATE THE CONSPIRACY STUFF THIS WAS, A MAJOR CONSPIRACY IT HAS EVERYTHING WE HAVE WATCHED THE MOST ADVANCED SOAP OPERA EVER

  breezin: Glad UN/WB is there to protect the assets

  Med: AS THE "*** TURNS"

Med: I AM TOO BREEZIN I KNOW WE HAVE THOUSANDS WHO ARE COUNTING ON THIS IN THE FUTURE AND I AM NOT DRYING TO BE FUNNY UNPURPOSE BUT HOLY ****THIS JUST WREAKS OF LAUGHTER IT WILL BE ALRIGHT HONEST AND MOST SERIOUS OK IT WILL BE

Bam Bam: well at this point if you cant laugh at it your in deeep trouble

  Med: I KNOW BB

(non Dinar talk)
 
breezin: Hey Med, Feel up to fielding a dinar related question? I came in late on your chat so wasn't sure if you were discussing it already.
 
Med: GO AHEAD

  breezin: The 'Arbil Marvels' have been somewhat quiet on the call for no-confidence for the last few days. Could it be the quiet is just the preparation before Talabani finally steps up to the plate and makes the call? Or do you think they gave up again?

Med: I DID DISCUSS THIS

breezin: sorry I missed it

  Med: NP LOL BUT I GAVE A SCENARIO INVOLVING THE MAJOR PLAYERS AND WHO NEEDS TO BRING WHAT TO THE TABLE THAT IS WHY I SAID LETS ALL SIT BACK ENJOY THE HOLIDAYS CUZ RIGHT NOW

  Big: A set of BIG brass ones for a change

  Med: THEY HAVE SO MANY ACCUSATIONS FLYING LIKE I SAID I FEEL LIKE I AM WATCHING AN ARAB SOAP WELL GANG I AM GOING TO GO OUT IN THE SNOW SIT IN THE HOT TUB AND LISTEN TO THE PACKERS GAME I HAVE BEEN UP SINCE 3AM

breezin: Goodnight Med

W8n2cashin: sounds like a plan

ksdunlap: Thank you very much Med .. enjoy u'r evening & the hot tub .. take care

  Med: NO I AM COMING BACK
 
Big:Enjoy!!
 
Med:TY I WILL BB