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Tuesday, December 4, 2012

THIS COULD GO DOWN TONIGHT, 4 DEC

[TERRYK] WHY ARE U NOT TALKING
[TERRYK] NEVER WAIT ON ME
[TERRYK] IM JUST THE PAWN
[THJ]    Even a pawn can force a checkmate.
[islandbound] you not the pawn.....you the man!
[TERRYK] TRUE
[THJ]    Has it been a long day?
[TERRYK] YEA
[tina]    hello there    
[TERRYK] IM EATING CHICKEN WINGS
[TERRYK] FUNNY U WOULD SAY THAT
[TERRYK] REAL LONG
[TERRYK] AND GOING TO BE LONGER
[TERRYK] I HAVE NOT BEEN INFORMEED ABOUT CHINA TODAY
[TERRYK] WAS TOO BUSY TALKIN TO PEEPS ABOUT PP 
[TERRYK] AND DONG
[TERRYK] AND DINAR
[TERRYK] NOW WHAT I HAVE IS THIS
[TERRYK] AND IM GOING OUT AGAIN
[TERRYK] 9.5
[TERRYK] THIS IS DONE

[Gullwing] cool
[TERRYK] A LARGE AMOUNT OF $$$ HIT THE BANKS SECTORS TODAY
[TERRYK] HEARING THAT THIS AGAIN
TERRYK] COULD GO DOWN TONIGHT
[TERRYK] AND YOU WOULD CASH IN 24-48 HOURS
[TERRYK] PUTTING IT INTO THEIR FRIDAY
[TERRYK] TUES BEST NIGHT FOR BANKING SYSTEM
[TERRYK] AGAIN THIS IS FROM A SOURCE THAT IS IN THE KNOW
[TERRYK] ALOT OF POWER PLAYS SCREWING WITH THIS

[TERRYK] AS IM SURE YOU CAN IMAGINE
[[TERRYK] I JUST GET A KICK OUT OF THE DUMB ASSES THAT SIT BACK AND GO HERE HE GOES AGAIN
[TERRYK] ANOTHER PERDICTION
[TERRYK] I DONT PREDICT ANYTHING
[TERRYK] IM GIVEING HARD RUMORS
[TERRYK] GIVING
[TERRYK] FROM SOURCES 
[TERRYK] AND FOR THOSE DUMB ASSES THAT KEEP OPENING THEIR MOUTHS BASHING THEN GOD WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM ONE DAY
[TERRYK] WHY DO YOU THINK INTEL PEEPS LEAVE
[TERRYK] NOT JUST ME
[TERRYK] BUT THE OTHERS AS WELL
[[TERRYK] LOOK AT OKIE
[TERRYK] GOOD FRIEND
[TERRYK] HE IS TIRED OF THE BASHING AS WELL
[TERRYK] ALL TINA WANTS IS TO BE CALLED TACO TINA
[TERRYK] HEY ANGELBABIES
[TERRYK] LONG TIME
[TERRYK] WHERE U BEEN
[TERRYK] TINA YOU EATING COOKIES
[TERRYK] AH JAVA
[TERRYK] I WILL SAY THIS
[TERRYK] I FEEL THE BEST WHAT I GOT TODAY
[TERRYK] AND THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED
[rocketman]    lets start a dinar party..TK for president!!
[TERRYK] DONT SAY THAT TOO LOUD ROCKETMAN
[TERRYK] 9:46
[TERRYK] I THINK
[TERRYK] I CANT READ THE TIME AND EAT WINGS AND TYPE AT THE SAME TIME TINA
[TERRYK] OPPS
[TERRYK] YEA
[TERRYK] I NEED A DIGITAL WATCH
[TERRYK] PUSH THE BUTTON
 [TERRYK] RED LIGHT COMES ON
[TERRYK] THESE ARE WINGS AND THINGS
[TERRYK] I DONT LIKE ALL THAT CRAP
[TERRYK] CANT MAKE UP MY MIND WHAT TO DIP IT IN
[TERRYK] WHAT TO EAT
[TERRYK] SO LISTEN
[TERRYK] I HAVE SOMTHING FOR YOU TO CHECK INTO
[TERRYK] A BUDDY CALLED ME TONIGHT
[TERRYK] AND THIS MAKES SENSE
[TERRYK] IF WE ARE HEADING OFF OF A CLIFF HERE IN THE USA
[TERRYK] WHICH I KNOW IS PLANNED TO REBOOT OUR SYSTEM
[TERRYK] BUT LISTEN
[TERRYK] IF WE ARE GOING TO THE CLIFF
[TERRYK] WOULD IT NOT BE THE MOST LOGICIAL TO INVEST IN A CURRENCY THAT IS WORRTH SOMETHING NOW
[TERRYK] AND WHEN THE DOLLAR HITS BOTTOM WE BUY UP THE DOLLAR SO WHEN IT RV'S WE CAN MAKE A BUNCH OF MONEY
[TERRYK] SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MONEY IS WORTH $$$$ BUY IT UP LIKE CANADA AND WHEN WE FALL OFF THE CLIFF 
[TERRYK] BUY UP USD
[TERRYK] FOR PENNIES
[TERRYK] AND IT WILL RV
[TERRYK] 1.00
[TERRYK] RIGHT
[THJ]    Do you know if the UST got any of the PP?
[TERRYK] NO THJ
[TERRYK] I KNOW THEY JUST GOT A LARGE INFLUX OF CAPITAL TODAY
[TERRYK] DONT KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM
[TERRYK] DUH
[DISHMAN] so are all the PP packs delivered now? 
[THJ]    So they only get the taxes? 
[TERRYK] NO DISH THEY ARE NOT
[TERRYK] WHAT I WAS TOLD IS THIS
[TERRYK] DO NOT
[TERRYK] DO NOT TURN OFF YOUR PHONE
[TERRYK] THAT THE BALANCE OF THE LETTERS /PACKAGES ARE TO GO OUT TONIGHT

[TERRYK] THATS WHAT I WAS TOLD
[TERRYK] IF YOUR WONDERING  ON RATES
[TERRYK] IT DOES NOT MATTER
[TERRYK] AND IM NOT TELLING ANYWAY
[TERRYK] YOU WILL BE HAPPY
[TERRYK] TRUST ON THAT
[ericasmom]    will we be DOUBLE digit happy??    
[TERRYK] THINK WHAT YOU WANT ERICAMOM
[TERRYK] BE RIGHT BACK
[TERRYK] PHONE

REVALUATION WARINING : " IQD IS CURRENTLY RE-APPEARING ON TELLER SCREENS IN MANY AREAS AND ACROSS THE BACK END OF THE BANKING SECTOR, 4 DEC

"REVALUATION WARNING! AND... NEWS 


  IQD IS CURRENTLY RE-APPEARING ON TELLER SCREENS IN MANY AREAS AND ACROSS THE BACK END OF THE  BANKING SECTOR. THIS COULD BE A PART OF THE PLAN TO HAVE IT JUST "APPEAR" SORT OF SUDDENLY, SO CALLING YOUR BANK WILL PROBABLY NOT HELP, BUT MAY WELL DELAY THE  NUMBERS AND VALUES BEING RELEASED.

THERE IS A COMPLICATED BACK STORY HERE INVOLVING GROUP AND EARLY CASHOUT OR "EXCHANGE OPPORTUNITIES" HOWEVER I WILL NOT GO INTO IT AT THIS TIME

YESTERDAY WE HAD A NUMBER OF INTERESTING DEVELOPMENTS:

[Blaino] Announcement: to clear up misconceptions, questions, ETC... And due to freshly received intel in the last few minutes .... I am taking planetdinar to dinaricon level 5+.... I still cannot give a "PASS".....

 Blanio: PLANETEERS... JUST IN CASE YOU HADN'T NOTICED.... THE RV .... DIDN'T APPEAR .... AGAIN.... TODAY! I HEAR THE CHINESE FLEET IS ON THE WAY.... SAVE YOUR PIZZA DISCOUNT COUPONS... AND MEBBY WE CAN NEGOTIATE OUR WAY 0UT OF THIS.... BEFORE THEY DOCK IN RENO! 
 Blanio: MEET THEM ON THE BEACHES WITH LAPTOPS.... MEBBY WE CAN HOOK THEM UP WITH DATE-MATE-FRIEND-FINDER.... YOU KNOW ALL THOSE CHINESE FAMILIES CAN ONLY HAVE 1 CHILD SINCE THE 1970'S..... 30 MILLION MEN.... NO DATES!

THE LEGEND OF ROHBAMA.... TAKE FROM THE:RICH, MIDDLE CLASS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.... GIVE TO THE ILLEGALS!

Blanio: I CAN SUM UP THE NEWS IN A SINGLE WORD... FILED WITH GOLDEN PROMISE AND DREAMS OF DREAMS COME TRUE!.... "SOON!"

HEY... STILL GETTING KUDOS FROM THE "GET IT STRAIGHT" CONFERENCE CALL!

Blanio: GUESS WE STRAIGHTENED THEM OUT SOME! THEY TELL ME THAT CALL REGISTERED A 9.7 ON THE "CALL-TOR" SCALE.... WE TURNED THE CHAT-O-SPHERE UPSIDE DOWN AND SHOOK... AND WOW.... LOOK WHAT FELL OUT!!!

 SO... AS A REMINDER :

 CONDITIONS ARE STILL ESCALATED TO "FAVORABLE" FOR A REVALUATION TO INITIALIZE FROM THE MOMENT OF THIS ANNOUNCEMENT AND GOING FORWARD UNTIL REVALUATION OCCURS

A WARNING IS A TIME DURING WHICH "MOST" CONDITIONS ARE FAVORABLE FOR A REVALUATION TO OCCUR AND THAT OCCURANCE CANNOT BE RULED OUT BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.

REVALUATION COULD HAPPEN AT ANY TIME, HOWEVER WE FEEL STRONGLY THAT PLANET INFORMATION SERVICES WILL HAVE ADEQUATE OPPORTUNITY TO ADVISE YOU OF THE APPEARANCE OF THE REVALUATION.

BLAINO HAS AUTHORIZED THIS REVALUATION WARNING TO ALERT CITIZENS TO THE IMPENDING POSSIBILITY OF RAPID MOVEMENT GOING FORWARD. GOD BLESS YOU AND KEEP YOU AS WE TRANSITION.

IT IS DONE EXCEPT THE SHOWING TO US FOR THE EXCHANGE WINDOW THROUGH 15-16, 4 DEC


ANGELQUEST] I CONTINUE TO STAND THAT IT IS DONE EXCEPT THE SHOWING TO US FOR THE EXCHANGE WINDOW THROUGH 15-16TH IMHO ONLY...........................HAVE A BLESSED DAY

3than] i know the vnd wont be as big as a return of the dinar but i see so much stuff going on with the vnd right now i dont want to not be invested in it and it dose reva
ule.....

 [eagles4] 3than I have both for that reason. I just got the vnd last week

 [greek1212] 3than if the VND is .47 as stated its a better return than the IQD

[tc0043] 3than take the amount of money you would spend buying a million dinar and buy vnd then do the math at possible values. which one nets you the most money?

[redhead1] 3than - what do you have to loose - for about $240.00 you can buy 3 million vnd - it could either make you alot of money or you do not loose alot of money if it does not revalue right now - it is almost a win win

[Cyndee49] eagles4 any thoughts on earlier Anglequest post?

[eagles4] Cyndee49 Yes I answered earlier and you didn't see it. I think she is right about what she said. I really hope so
[linda craft] flashing Praying for the RV

[flashing] linda craft everything is positive and i keep my timeframe. Roflmao .  again for the first time we are really close and on the right direction.

flashing] linda craft two major impediments were removed. 1. There is a budget agreement between eu and greece . It was blessed by imf.2. Kuwait Airways agreement was ratified as of Dec 1. So we wait for the U S A budget agreement and the meeting of kuwait and iraq to sign remaining papers of ch 7.

[flashing] Just after that there should be the final UN decision with respect to ch 7 and then the release of rv along with ch 7. imo.

 [flashing] linda craft just remember my timeframe is from dec to jan 15

[JLARSEN] Very encouraging news, flashing .... and I had always understood that the final step to release from Chapt. 7 was the revaluing of the currency.....

[flashing] JLARSEN imo they will be released simultaneously.next kuwait parliament meeting is schedule for dec 16. So imo they will sign the papers just before that date and ratify them on such meeting. in the case of u s a i think there is already a done deal

[JLARSEN] flashing I'm hearing that from a couple of sources... I think we are that close!! What I am liking with all of this is that it IS news! It's not rumor.... it is actually happening and being reported.

Jeff] flashing closer than you know or think my friend very very close

 [flashing] Jeff agreed i said previously that the first half of dec will be very relevant for our investment.

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[Believer55] Another rumor is the VND RV'ed in Europe. Sources have not validated this as of yet. I was told it was showing on bank screens around the globe except for in the U. S. Take this as rumor.

Digs] so we've got ships from china rushing on over to force O to hit the RV button... wonder how far off the coast they are now?? lol we've also got talk of an VND RV In Europe, but not here in the US.. lol lol

[Imperium] so the latest skuddle is that O has been pressured into signing off before he goes to Hawaii (where it's alleged he bought a $4 million house) on the 17th, and that China is afloat heading towards us. is this close?

[911GTS] Imperium sounds close according to terryk

 [Mitzi] 911GTS yep, Angelquest backs TerryK on this

[cashdad123] When to travelex today to buy some VND, the lady told me it was not worth buying because the country was not stable enough for the currency to change value. She also say that people was bring IQD back by the boat load in Atlanta . I told her felt sorry for those people who was bringing it back"....She told me good luck

 [okrocks] cashdad123 that is sad so many were returning theirs... [cashdad123] Okrocks so true , but God reward patience...it's his prefect timing for this

[okrocks] cashdad123 yes and we will be greatly rewarded

[sunny] I just got off the phone with Travelex in Scottsdale, AZ. He has no VND and said he'd been unable to get any for 2 weeks.

[2012jesus] Coming: '$3 trillion tax increase on middle class'

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[dwightj] I had a friend come by today and show me a site that was really pumping people with all these stories about how the taxes are going to take all their money and how they needed to increase their holdings by as much as 100% and that much more if they counted on the rv being more than.50

[dwightj - OMG!! They are sooooooo going to jail!!

When it comes out that they are on commission (and they are) based on how much dinar they move....there's no place to hide. It's over.

[Taffy] dwight, how about those who are responsible for doing the taxing?

 [templejc] Dwight what site was that?

[dwightj] I don't know I got so mad I couldn't even think my friend wanted to know how much more he needed to buy I told him not to buy because of that but he needed to only buy what he could afford we called his CPA and his CPA said all that was just trash at this time no new tax rates had even been presented to the house or Senate that he would have to wait before he could give him a true answer

[ajay214] dwightj - The taxes they are talking about are part of the healthcare bill. I think, if I understand at all, that there is an additional tax of something like 3.4% or something. Not enough to worry about buying more to cover it. The hike in taxes has not yet been settled. You can almost bet we will pay somewhere between 24 and 43%. It's a big spread and depends on what happens with congress. None of it is written in stone yet. Haven't seen one true CPA give us a clue if this would be considered personal income, short or long term capital gains or anything. I say let's RV and worry about the taxes later!

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WASHINGTON, Dec 3 (Reuters) - The U.S. Internal Revenue Service has released new rules for investment income taxes on capital gains and dividends earned by high-income individuals that passed Congress as part of the 2010 healthcare reform law. The 3.8 percent surtax on investment income, meant to help pay for healthcare, goes into effect in 2013. It is the first surtax to be applied to capital gains and dividend income.

The tax affects only individuals with more than $200,000 in modified adjusted gross income (MAGI), and married couples filing jointly with more than $250,000 of MAGI. The tax applies to a broad range of investment securities ranging from stocks and bonds to commodity securities and specialized derivatives. The 159 pages of rules spell out when the tax applies to trusts and annuities, as well as to individual securities traders. Released late on Friday, the new regulations include a 0.9 percent healthcare tax on wages for high-income individuals. Both sets of rules will be published on Wed

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 4 DEC

12-4-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   Another rumor is the Dong RV'ed in Europe.  Sources have not validated this as of yet.  I was told it was showing on bank screens around the globe except for in the U. S. Take this as rumor.   I can't believe that they can RV in one country and not the rest. I'm very encouraged as there is a lot of talk around the globe about what is about to happen.  Hopefully they get the laws passed & get them done quick. There are so many articles saying January 1, they have to get things done prior to January 1 for anything to happen in the 1st of the year.   I am looking for a lot to be accomplished this month.

12-4-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   Parliament is to vote on 3 laws today & complete the discussions on the 2013 budget.  There's a lot of things pointing to they are going to get this done.  I received on Nov. 30th  from three different sources that the Dong was to go on Dec. 1st. & the rest was to follow.  Obama met with the IMF and talked to Maliki over there asking them to hold off to the 1st of the year so he could get more taxes & China blew a stack, they were totally upset. They wanted us to have money to buy goods.  It has been agreed upon that he will step out of the way when he goes on vacation which I think is the 16th, 17th of this month.  This came from reliable sources, but I still have this as rumor.

12-4-2012  Intel Guru Angelquest   DEC 25TH IS MY LAST THOUGHT ON A BACKDATE AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT DATE.

12-4-2012  Newshound Guru Mountainman    Kuwait's Prime Minister is visiting Iraq this weekend to discuss the two countries economic future and some recent developments. It is not yet clear if this is RV or Chapter 7 related but it's possible it could be either. I will keep everyone posted on what I learn from this meeting from my sources.

12-4-2012  Newshound Guru Med   one thing i would like all to think about when thinking of the rv...a countries currency is only as strong as the govt that backs it...now remember about the strength of a currency and how we are seeing possibly movement for iraq right now to securing a stronger govt and currency.  there is no way and i mean this with all sincerity that men like najafi or allawi or talibani or barzani will allow a new dictator or sadr even.  they are trying to resolve this in a way of no bloodshed.  that is why it is dragging out.  they have kept this from turning into a civil war, yet keeping maliki from doing real irreparable damage.   anything he has done can be easily reversed  even all the stealing of money, they have so much wealth.

12-4-2012  Newshound Guru Tlar  Article:  "BAGHDAD / Baghdadiya News / House of Representatives voted on Saturday, the three laws began the second reading of the federal budget law for 2013."  If they can just get it done before the end of the year.  This is extremely important to our investment.  I believe it is two readings then a vote and then it is published in the gazzette before it becomes formal law.

12-4-2012  Intel Guru TerryK   first of all logistics banking systems must all sync together...that would be tue night...2-3 am tue morning / wed when the banks talk next...tuesday night going into wed morning is the banking sync time...we would maybe have to wait 24-48 hours after that point which would take us into a thursday night.  iraq banks closed on friday / saturday price adjustment in iraq re-program  and when they open sunday you would see the currency, now if the banks talk on tuesday we may see it / we may not i will let you know.  we will see wwiii or the rv this week... i have the rate...from my source in the imf...u will love the rate.  im hearing a lot of positive things.  my source told me tonight not to turn my phone off that they maybe calling me at 3 am 

12-4-2012  Intel Guru TerryK   now thursday is the first day that wf is allowed to sell the dong again for years they can buy and sell the dong, do you hear what im saying.  now i purchased dong thursday for 48 it went up to 59.79 today per mil so there is movement. 73 trillion is coming into the banking system this week i was advised that in the wf branch that my buddy works at today they received 1.9 trillion over the weekend what does that tell u.

12-4-2012  Intel Guru TerryK   the lady of china is pushing for a global reset and pushing a certain person in the usa to rv, dont know how thats going to play out its not in the main stream news.   a few things are going on as we speak, hong kong source is telling me that the dong is being traded right now for .47 in the mid east, cant verify... it is showing up on currency sites just not forex...
forex guy is telling me its on the screens but has not been released...wf source is telling me its on the screens but not released

CHANGE IN IRAQI CURRENCIES, 4 DEC



Iraq, December 1, 2012
Central Bank adviser Mohammed Saleh, said that the bank is serious in executing the deletion of three zeros from the national currency of Iraq in near future.

Salhan said that it depends on at the present time to shape the next government and parliament two new Saokhman upon themselves determine the mechanism under which the function of deleting the zeros from the Iraqi dinar.

He also said that deleting the zeros would contribute to the reduction of the size of inflation and also to the reduction to the size of money supply in the market of 26 trillion Iraqi dinars to near about 25 billion dinars, pointing that the Kurdish language is going to be added to the new currency as well as English and Arabic.

He added that the huge number of funds traded in the market let to get puzzled in the large commercial transactions and in the work of banks, adding that deleting three zeros from the Iraqi currency will direct to reform the management system of the national currency and thus develop and refresh the Iraqi economy.
http://iraqdailyjournal.com/story-z6779702

Breitling Report Tuesday 12042012

CHINA IS PUSHING FOR A GLOBAL RESET, 4 DEC


12-4-12 TerryK: I have been on calls all day and all night. A lot going on. First of all China has deployed its fleet. Have it verified they are heading to the USA. Don’t know how close they will get. It’s a show of force.
The lady of China is pushing for a global reset and pushing a certain person in the USA to RV. Don’t know how that’s going to play out. It’s not in the main stream news.
Now what does that mean for us? Well, a few things are going on as we speak. Hong Kong source is telling me that the Dong is being traded right now for .47 in the mid east. Can’t verify.
It is showing up on currency sites, just not Forex. Forex guy is telling me it’s on the screens but has not been released. WF source is telling me it’s on the screens but not released.
Now Thursday is the first day that WF is allowed to sell the Dong again for years. They can buy and sell the Dong. Do you hear what I’m saying?
Now I purchased Dong Thursday for 48 it went up to 59.79 today per mil so there is movement.
Have many confirms that the pp are out many have gotten them (PPs) but like 25% have not they are supposed to go out tonight (Monday) and into the morning.
If this is true and the packages do get delivered in the west that would mean that the RV is not far behind. 73 trillion is coming into the banking system this week, I was advised that in the WF branch that my buddy works at today. They received 1.9 trillion over the weekend. What does that tell u?
First of all logistics banking systems must all sync together. Did you hear that? That would be Tuesday night. Remember that one 2-3 am Tuesday morning / wed when the banks talk next. We would maybe have to wait 24-48 hours after that point which would take us into a Thursday night.
Iraq banks closed on Friday / Saturday. Price adjustment in Iraq re-program and when they open Sunday you would see the currency. Now if the banks talk on Tuesday we may see it / we may not. I will let you know as well as the other sites may see it.
A lot of the gurus have contacts that can see this; not just me so with that all said we are in a**** good spot this week!

We are seeing movement for iraq right now to securing a stronger govt and currency, 4 dec

We are seeing movement for iraq right now to securing a stronger govt and currency

med (09:46:11): gm ds one thing i would like all to think about when thinking of the rv lanachy told me this and i have always remembered it a countries currency is only as strong as the govt that backs it
spankyi
med: i read that spanky only thing is it is vague i was trying to pull something from it but it just doesnt have enough
spankyi: oh ok
med: i mean it is a fine article but i was hoping just for a few more words to help from guessing and i hate to guess lol
tdk: you never do on this investment big guy
spankyi: i thought maybe u would see some thing i didnt lol
med: lol now remember about the strength of a currency and how we are seeing possibly movement for iraq right now to securing a stronger govt and currency there is no way and i mean this with all sincerity that men like najafi or allawi or talibani or barzani will allow a new dictator or sadr even
they are trying to resolve this in a way of no bloodshed that is why it is dragging out they have kept this from turning into a civil war yet keeping maliki from doing real irreparable damage anything he has done can be easily reversed even all the stealing of money they have so much wealth it is like finding couch change for us so dont worry about all that ok i am the eternal optimist i believe that no matter what good overcomes evil
tdk: me too
med: and the same here
spankyi: for sure
med: no matter if they are muslims or not you all know there are good everywhere not just here in america look at the great people from this site from the uk from canada from romania from pr from malysia
stlou: don’t forget arkansas
med: i mean they are all kind and generous i said countries stlou i guess you all in arkansas are in your own little world
stlou: i know
tdk: lol
med: lol
spankyi:
stlou: med..
busman: med don’t kow if you talked about it, but did you read the article danteich2 posted?
stlou: i read that article you referred to..
med: not yet bus i am bus reviewing your progress on your foot
stlou: could it possibly have something to do with the fact they will continue with the budget reading without the final accounts for 2012?
busman: http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt…iraqi-currency
excluded is not in it verbage is almost the same as the article from yesterday
med: but look at the second para
spankyi: would not be witnessing the birth of new iraqi currency because of the government’s refusal to this project,” noting that “the government believes that this work is not of its priorities. ”
med: yes they sort of reversed thngs
busman: that is in my comments, very confusing, these articles
med: things yes it is
stlou: he said the commission’s decision mahma khalil in an interview with “twilight news” that “the new year will witness the restructuring iraqi currency deleting three zeros
med: right now but remember this ok yes it can certainly but who is in charge of cbi right now
busman: tunki, for now
med: yup
busman: or turkey
med: d bag
busman: maliki’s puppet
med: yup
spankyi: :@
med: did anyone notice for two weeks it was nothing but corruption this one stealing that one stealing then all of a sudden when maliki’s son is implicated maliki threw that one guy under the bus and nothing in the news
busman: dabbaugh
med: about anyoen yes bus
guardian: hey we could have a turkey shoot
busman: all of this makes beleive maliki has control of the rv
spankyi: lol guardian
med: ummmm yes bus right now yes in a underhanded way unless unless hmmmm unless
busman: and we know he wants it right?
med: parliaments finance committee decides it is what they want parliament here really does have the power they have the power to reverse all of this brb ok
spankyi: ok
busman: they are suppose to have the power :s good morning ds sorry to jump in like but we beat the opposit of that article up yesterday, and wanted med to look at it back to my corner(f)
guardian: could simply be we should not totally rely on translators, but that’s all we got

DISCUSSION ABOUT A FLOTATION OF SHARES AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR IS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND IN IRAQ SINCE THE FALL OF THE FORMER REGIME IN 2003, 4 DEC

12-4-12 Mountainman: Kuwait's Prime Minister is visiting Iraq this weekend to discuss the two countries economic future and some recent developments. It is not yet clear if this is RV or Chapter 7 related but it's possible it could be either. I will keep everyone posted on what I learn from this meeting from my sources. 

 Translation / Baghdadiya News / .. According to the Associated Press that the Iraqi market for securities has said that one of the largest telecom operators in Iraq will present its shares for trading at the beginning of next year, where will this flotation of shares is the first of its kind in the country since the fall of the former regime in 2003.  -     Article & Link Below

TLAR: 
I think this may be good news o Dr. Nan.  This is a company home based in Qatar not in Iraq.  I believe that this could mean that the stock market could be going international in January or at least Asia Cell may believe it.  The ISX is not traded anywhere but Iraq.  

The reason is there is no easy conversion of currencies.   To be a real international market, your home country has to have a convertable currency. Although Asia Cell may have decided to list with this market, the question has to asked, why?  This sounds almost like an IPO.  

Or Asia Cell is trying to raise capital for expansion.  Again the question must be asked. Why?  There are plenty of stock exchanges they could list with that are international markets.  Investors in Iraq have dinar.  

TLAR CONTINUES:  The market is listed in and traded in dinar.  The dinar is an unusable commodity anywhere but Iraq and of course the country sponsor counterfeiters, Iran.  But even in Iran they just sell it back to Iraq for hard currency (USD).  So it still remains in my mind.  

Why the ISX and what are they going to do with all the non- trad able dinars they will get from this venture.  Dinars are not used for exchange in Qatar anymore than they are used in the US so unless Asia Cell has found an easy way to convert dinar to a usable exchange asset, I ask why Iraq and why January? Could Asia Cell know something we can only guess at?

SCALP:  Sounds like the ISX is going global jan 3 2013......interesting timing wouldn't one say ;) The more I look at this article the more huge it becomes....first time since former regime in 2003.  Loving these little clues the last 2 days, making me feel a bit excited....yes i know, i should know better :P

MAXGIRL:  Yes, but if  this is true and this is a big "IF" doesn't the dinar need significant value (ie. 1 to 1) that could only happen with a managed float?

TLAR:  Maxgirl, the value of the dinar is not at issue here.  Only whether or not it is convertible which means international which means tradable.  If you buy into their ISX using USD, you would like your investment stated in USD or dinars but when you sell a stock or close your account, most likely you will want USD back.  If you live in England, you expect Euros.  It is converted at the existing exchange rate at the time you sell no matter whether it's a dollar or a penny.  

KAPERONI:  Though this is a positive sign, Iraq has been working for months on "custodial banking" to support the ISX.   I am not sure if a convertible currency is a requirement under this program.

HANDOVERFIST:  Assuming investors around the world buy shares in Asia cell, what will they receive when they decide to sell their shares? Worthless dinar? I would think that if I invest dollars, I would get more dollars back when I sell.

KAPERONI:  Handoverfist,I got this from a custodial bank site...

A custodian bank is a financial institution that is responsible for holding and keeping safe the various assets of an investment company. The assets can include any type of security, including stocks or bonds, as well as assets like jewelry or other valuables. Banks of this type provide services to investors, as well as angel investor groups, and even individual investors.

Sometimes referred to simply as a custodian, the basic responsibility of the custodian bank is to receive and keep safe the assets delivered by the investor. This includes stocks as well as bonds. The bank always maintains the ability to grant access to those assets to the investor, as well as render an accounting of the current status of those assets, in terms of their value.

Along with safekeeping of the assets, a custodian bank also assists in the purchase and sale of assets on behalf of the investor. This can include making sure that any purchased assets are properly received, logged, and accounted for under the terms of the investor’s account. At the same time, the custodian bank is instrumental in the orderly transfer of an asset to the new owner when the investor chooses to sell securities or one of the other types of assets that are entrusted to the bank.

My point is, if this is the direction Iraq is going for the ISX - funneling transactions through a custodial bank,  I do not think we can say will certainty that Iraq must make the dinar international convertible or tradable before 1/1/2012 until we know more.  But I am optimistic.  

TLAR:  Kap, we have custodial banks here in the US.  They are not necessarily banks of  foreign currency exchange.  Only if the custodial bank has this as one of its departments are they able to swap from one currency to another.  

Some banks here in the US also are regular banks that are foreign currency exchange banks but don't sell foreign currency to their depositors.   They are foreign currency banks only because they do business out of the country and need this service in house to swap back and forth between currencies with overseas banks.  

The golden rule between most of these types of banks is convertible currency, meaning international.  I can't think of any bank outside of Iraq that would be interested in swapping for dinar lets say for Euros other than just the sale of dinar itself.   Certainly dinars are unusable for commodities.  

So until I see some mechanism that is publicly announced I don't believe any  foreign investor will enter the ISX in any great numbers.  This retards the potential market for Asia Cell.  My question still remains, with all the problems and obstacles, why Iraq?   

ARTICLE & LINK:
Translation / Baghdadiya News / .. According to the Associated Press that the Iraqi market for securities has said that one of the largest telecom operators in Iraq will present its shares for trading at the beginning of next year, where will this flotation of shares is the first of its kind in the country since the fall of the former regime in 2003.

He said the Iraqi market for securities in a statement that the quarter of the shares will be traded company AsiaCell openly starting from the third of the month of January and until the third month of February next when the stock price was determined in the twenty-fifth of December, the current. The ACL, which is a subsidiary of Qatar Telecom and one of the three mobile phone companies in Iraq along with Kuwaiti Zain Iraq and Cork, a subsidiary of France Telecom. Finished / 21    Monday, December 3, 2012 13:39


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DISCUSSION OF ANGELQUEST, 4 DEC


[Mitzi] ANGELQUEST does it still look like an RV before Christmas, please
[ANGELQUEST] Mitzi YES my information has not changed

 [Mitzi] ANGELQUEST yahoooo, yabba dabba dooooooooo so good to hear

 [WILDDUCK] Cyndee49 go and check it out for yourself and then you will know if it is real or showtime. We tried it a week ago nope. LOVE to have it be true now

 [Papa Bear] ANGELQUEST The Lord gives us all a special dance

[bigblue3] wheezer2 just checked sterling - they are still selling VND

 [Cyndee49] wildduck can not confirm on phone

 [musiccitylady] do we know what we know that we don't know yet? roflmao

[ANGELQUEST] Papa Bear yes and some choose to dance while others dont......... roflmao

 [Papa Bear] ANGELQUEST When our claws are clipped sometimes we dance a little lighter

[ANGELQUEST] has anyone noticed anything from articles today about the global going ons???

 [ANGELQUEST] Papa Bear yes unfortunately but not for long

 [WILDDUCK] ANGELQUEST nope whats up leaking news

[ANGELQUEST] A quiz this morning..........................

 [Papa Bear] Folks remember the Chinese fleet is just a symbolic gesture to tell us to move forward.

[ANGELQUEST] besides chapter seven on iraq which will not come till rv...................what other country that OKIE mentioned is removing zeros????

[misskitty05] Angelquest indonesia

.pmw1973] Idr

[ANGELQUEST] .pmw1973 yes bingo

 [musiccitylady] This is so much fun!

[ANGELQUEST] see how this works? watch the world not Iraq

 [.pmw1973] East to west?

[Papa Bear] World Reset

[ANGELQUEST] next..........................pmw1973 yes east to west.................

[gsi3000] ANGELQUEST Good morning, could explain what Pairing of currencies means??

[ANGELQUEST] gsi3000 the value of a currency is determined by its comparison to another currency. The first currency of a currency pair is called the "base currency", and the second currency is called the "quote currency". The currency pair shows how much of the quote currency is needed to purchase one unit of the base currency.

 [rustyc] ANGELQUEST is that why we see the term baskets?

 [ready4riches] Papa Bear happy happy

[ANGELQUEST] gsi3000 For example, if the USD/EUR currency pair is quoted as being USD/EUR = 1.5 and you purchase the pair, this means that for every 1.5 euros that you sell, you purchase (receive) US$1. If you sold the currency pair, you would receive 1.5 euros for every US$1 you sell. The inverse of the currency quote is EUR/USD, and the corresponding price would be EUR/USD = 0.667, meaning that US$0.667 would buy 1 euro. Read more:http://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/currencypair.asp#ixzz2E67z6Rtg

[wheezer2] ANGELQUEST WILDDUCK.. did you guys see or hear the huge movement/fluctuations on currency converters last night with the vnd?

 [rustyc] ANGELQUEST my last ? not very clear, is that why they are paired in a basket, of what I heard 15 to CE?

 [ANGELQUEST] rustyc that is why there are baskets smaller countries paired to the largest country they do most business with .................

[Coffeeone] angelquest Congress and "o" still in theatre mode. All has really been decided?

[ANGELQUEST] Coffeeone yes indeed now I am going to post something for all regarding laughing at a certain guru and his information did you all know this............? and why is it unbeleivable to think it is not true??? just a question if you back was against the wall what would you do?

 [ANGELQUEST] China’s economy is at serious risk – and the entire world will feel the blow both economically and even militarily. And your life savings and investments are no exception because China’s economy is so closely linked to America’s and other Western nations. You are probably aware of Robert Wiedemer, the New York Times best-selling author of Aftershock. Wiedemer was one of the first economists to warn of the 2008 crash.

 And now he is warning that China’s economy is at grave risk. He points out that after several years of massive government stimulus as well as heavy support for the real estate sector, China’s bubble is about ready to burst. “Housing prices in 100 major cities in China fell for the sixth consecutive month... even the China Iron and Steel Association says that growth has slowed from 15% in 2010 to 4% in 2012.” Adding to China’s economic woes is their fragile stock market. It has already fallen to 2009 lows, a significant psychological benchmark, and Bloomberg News points out that if this resistance level breaks, stocks could drop another 10 percent.

Shockingly, many insiders warn that China, facing severe domestic problems, may turn toward their military muscle to gain an economic edge

rustyc] ANGELQUEST thank you that helps to understand the relationship of pairing for me...

[ANGELQUEST] rustyc yw it is all to the countries in the g7............the biggest countries..........
[musiccitylady] so, is China really sending ships to station them off US coast? or just rumor?

 [Coffeeone] ANGELQUEST Thank you for answering my question. I think that question and answer the most powerful of our day and time concerning our investment; my soul is at peace. I thank you for sharing. :

 [ANGELQUEST] musiccitylady personally I know they had ships in the pacific to protect those islands from japan other than that can not verify but leave all options open till proven false

[sonnayhwh] musiccitylady - China constantly patrols our western waters. The missile launch off Catalina Island in the Fall of 2010 was from a Chinese sub. Nothing new. . . .

 [ANGELQUEST] sonnayhwh indeed

 [musiccitylady] sonnayhwh well it was told to me that China was sending ships to make sure O allowed the rv to occur

 [rustyc] sonnayhwh my ? is what are they –China-going to do if we do not respond, hmmmm.

 [Papa Bear] China doing everything in its power to bring RV and world reset .
[sonnayhwh] rustyc - They'll mind their own store for awhile. They are more concerned about their south China seas ventures.

[Diogenes] ANGELQUEST Re the question from Coffeeone, At what point will this theatre(mass mind control) end? Thanks.

[ANGELQUEST] Diogenes when evil realizes the end of the book is GOOD and they loose...... roflmao

[Diogenes] ANGELQUEST A long way to go then...

[ANGELQUEST] Diogenes well not for the rv but for the world yes..............there will always be evil and never be PEACE like no wars and rumors of till the END..................regardless what shift we are about to embark on we need to remain vigilent because it is still there............will we let it overcome again?

feda] ANGELQUEST ANGELQUEST can i quit my second job lol

 [ANGELQUEST] feda i would wait if you need it to keep a roof over your head till say 15-16th

[LivingInGodsCountry] ANGELQUEST that would be a wonderful time of the year!! TY

[ANGELQUEST] LivingInGodsCountry indeed woohoo

 [sonnayhwh] musiccitylady - O would not blink at an open seas manuever by China. They don't yet have the strength for a confrontation. There are too many other channels that would be more effective. If it is happening, it's just sabre rattling, imo.

[ANGELQUEST] sonnayhwh yes we must realize many things in this scenario...............george washingtons vision if you dont know the real story read it........................yes there will be a RED army from the east discend but the WEST wins that for the People of the REPUBLIC

Coffeeone] ANGELQUEST The news you have shared is so magnifient, I wonder if this Chat Room really comprehends what you have actually shared? Do you my Dinarian Family? :

 [puppylove] Coffeeone yes I do thanks- happy happy

[sonnayhwh] ANGELQUEST - Thanks for the reminder. I hold that one to be a true prophecy to be prayed into. And the last war results in a light breaking the cloud from the center of the country. God will prevail!

 [bamanana] I appreciate her information sincerely, just wish it would hurry up lol

[ANGELQUEST] Coffeeone many are called FEW are chosen

 [Mitzi] ANGELQUEST I gotcha too and I love it

[ANGELQUEST] sonnayhwh AMEN INDEED

[marmeysue] ANGELQUEST sobering isn't it?

[ANGELQUEST] marmeysue YES IT IS..........................WE WERE BORN FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS IMHO

[marmeysue] ANGELQUEST No doubt and it is exciting as it is a bit scary as to what the Lord has in store for this country and the world

 [ANGELQUEST] marmeysue HE ONLY HAS GOOD IN STORE FOR US BUT NO ONE TOLD US IT WOULD BE A BED OF ROSES

 [gsi3000] ANGELQUEST What will be my best excuse to tell my friends why ~I suddenly own a Castle!! lol

[ANGELQUEST] gsi3000 YOU WERE BLESSED AND MERCY GIVEN TO YOU...............BECAUSE YOU ARE A CHILD OF HIS

ANGELQUEST] gsi3000 OR YOU GAMBLED THEY LOST YOU WON

 [ANGELQUEST] gsi3000 OR THE BEST OF ALL...................YOU LEARNED P A T I E N C E????? RMOFLMAO

 [ready4riches] ANGELQUEST boy is that the truth. :

[LivingInGodsCountry] gsi3000 or... you have made a very wise investment that has finally paid off

[gsi3000] ANGELQUEST Either way everyone will enjoy and benefit from this blessing!

[ANGELQUEST] ready4riches IF we have learned NOTHING in this journey it is patience and the stamina to endure much from others..............no?

 [mr_shoemake] i wont rush out and run to the bank once the rv comes it will take me several days to figure out weather or not it is real after i wake up from hitting my head

 [ANGELQUEST] mr_shoemake yes I have always said no matter how much I prepare will still look like a chicken with its head cut off...... roflmao

bamanana] ANGELQUEST patience is definitely a 4 letter word lol

[mr_shoemake] ANGELQUEST i have learned that these sites out there are 95% entertainment and 5% guessing

bama] wonder if the Chineese fleet has arrived yet? lol I suppose its a long trip

 [Stash] bama that was about the craziest thing I have heard about this whole thing lol

[bama] Stash lol yep ..... but then, the PLA does have a navy and they do manuvers in international waters around Tiwann and Japan quite often but the idea that they could get here undetered and undetected by our navy is laughable

undetered and undetected by our navy is laghable

[sananddan24] AngelQuest the race is not given to the swift or the strong but those that endureth to the end

[ANGELQUEST] mr_shoemake i can concur to that for sure...........

[mr_shoemake] musiccitylady i think terryk wrote for days of our lives before here

 [marmeysue] ANGELQUEST WHat do you think while we have these next few hours/days we can start having discussions of some of the safe ways to protect your money with what is going on in the economy. I know a lot of gurus have said we will do this once it rvs...I personally would like to do this before.

 [ANGELQUEST] marmeysue well the reason all say we must wait is because the financial rules will change globally and it would be all for not if it is done beforehand

[nolaspice] Whatever we are waiting for – peace of mind, contentment, grace, the inner awareness of simple abundance – it will surely come to us, but only when we are ready to receive it with an open and grateful heart! Geaux RV! We, here in the castle are ready!!

[ANGELQUEST] marmeysue so unfortunately we wait as our normal practice of the last 8-10 years but when it happens we will not have to study.............think COMMON SENSE

[sonnayhwh] ANGELQUEST TG's talk lately of an unlimited debt ceiling, and the dropping of the penny and nickel seem to be hints of the new UST system. Are they positioning for a 1st quarter release, iyo?

[ANGELQUEST] sonnayhwh YES

 [marmeysue] ANGELQUEST It is more then common sense...there is much to learn and know in keeping your money safe. It will be a full time job keeping up with this kind of money.

Readynow] ANGELQUEST first quarter release of new sys.or---?

[ANGELQUEST] Readynow NO WILL ANNOUNCED AROUND THE RV

[nolaspice] The world is full of abundance and opportunity, but far too many people come to the fountain of life with a sieve instead of a tank car… a teaspoon instead of a steam shovel. They expect little and as a result they get little - Expect your every need to be met. Expect the answer to every problem, expect abundance on every level!

[telemar59] Angelquest if all is done as you said yesterday why the fleet?

ANGELQUEST] telemar59 telemar59 THERE IS THING CALLED AN ORDER TO STOP TEMPORARILY THIS HAPPENED AND HAS SINCE BEEN CHANGE

[telemar59] Angelquest thanks. Will that order expire or go into another delay?

[ANGELQUEST] telemar59 HOPEFULLY WILL NOT STOP NOW

[Coffeeone] ANGELQUEST If it is delayed and/or stopped, I hope you will alert us.  We have been through alot.

[ANGELQUEST] Coffeeone WELL SOMETIMES PEOPLE CALL WOLF AND SAY THINGS BEFORE WAITING FOR THE FINAL SAY..............WE ARE ALL GUILTY OF LISTENING AND ACTING IN REPONSE TO LET ALL KNOW OUR GLEE BUT IT HAS BEEN OUR DOWNFALL

[bamanana] ANGELQUEST We understand that, y'all are human too and get excited! No one faults anyone for that! :)

 [ANGELQUEST] bamanana NO DONT ASK............. ROFLMAO BUT ON A SERIOUS NOTE DEC 25TH IS MY LAST THOUGHT ON A BACKDATE AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT DATE


[Coffeeone] ANGELQUEST I understand. So, you are saying as of further notice ....... Welcome RV !