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Iraqi citizen suffers from its national currency shattered!!, 21 NOV

On: Wednesday 11/21/2012 10:07 am 

Baghdad / WAP / report Duraid Thamer: become rare and difficult to enter in the pocket of the citizen paper currency is torn or is glued or subject to paste and become those currencies that circulated Iraqi citizen concern has as taking vendors and shopkeepers and markets cars are reluctant to receive money after that become this Banknotes very old without trying to renew it and took cause them great suffering due to rupture more Currency constant use and lack of care citizen out and maintain when fade many times and others Asahbunha strongly packets Securities surrounded rubberized which exposes them to cut or damage that contributes to omission vendors and others for receiving those currencies which confused the citizens in how to dispose of them or traded. 

So you'll find competent financial authorities solutions to this phenomenon? Why do not you released new coins compensatory shattered? And when there will be stiff penalties on the refrain of the receipt of torn currency? . 

Said Ahmed Ali Jaber (employee) told Baghdad International / WAP /: that this phenomenon exists in all countries of the world but in other countries received popular unlike what is happening we are supposed to banks isolating banknotes affected and printed new alternatives have to remain Currency trading under and on an ongoing basis and this has not happened so far and I do not know what are the reasons for not printing new banknotes save the citizens from these daily suffering. 

The Lamia Abbas Jassim (university student), said L / WAP /: I Banknotes torn from various categories and does not accept a road from shopkeepers or drivers cabs handled or discharged and I am confused about how to deal with knowing that some banks do not accept receipt or replaced when their review under the pretext of work or momentum that the majority of these currencies is we do not have coins under our hand at the present time. 

While Haider said Hassoun Matar (teacher) for / WAP /: the failure to print new currencies during these years due to the idea of ​​turning these currencies and replacement, deletion of zeros from where there will be coins a new Iraqi without zeros to facilitate trading and increase the purchasing power of the currency has been this just an idea, but it seems serious in the recent period through what we see on television or newspapers tell us. 

The Rasha Fulayyih Hassan (employee) in a statement / WAP /: "The majority of Iraqi banks are imposing these currencies on account managers who can not find a way, but give it to the employees with their salaries and refused to receive these currencies, they are waiting queue may range up to days until Do not repeat one of the account managers then, it will Babdalha us and giving us the other currencies, it is a puzzling phenomenon not know how to get rid of them?. 

The Saif Salah al-Lami (taxi driver) in a statement / WAP /, to that objection is not on these currencies damaged it inevitably will be spent will remain in their houses, but the problem that dealing with difficult and accepted by one and this phenomenon does not include currencies without the other has hit damage Most banknotes due not to deal with them in a civilized and good there fade several times and others strongly Asahbunha of securities packages surrounded by rubber, which exposes them to cut and tear. 

And demanded decent Nasser Hamadi (housewife) to find solutions to this problem when she said: that this phenomenon are becoming increasingly in recent after being banknotes many to rip and tear due to use frequently and must find solutions to this problem, it is unreasonable to go to the market to buy what I needed to find a lot of shop owners selling vegetables refuse to receive for what they buy it on the grounds that the amounts torn to go back to the house I have bought a few which I wish to purchase the house under such excuses. 
He stressed Muhammad Ali Qasim (owner of a shop selling food) that it was impossible to enter into our pockets daily paper currency is torn or is glued or subject to paste until it became a source of concern to us because of its refusal and rebuke shoppers in case of non-receipt her and took some of them often and work under pressure and fear of non-traded when taken from the people because the majority of vegetable vendors and shop owners and other car drivers do not receive money. 

Stands Nadia Salem Prism (teacher) confused and hesitant in how to deal with these securities is accepted by the others, saying: When I go to the market to buy what you need family food, clothing stand confused in front of hesitation shop owner a stir amounts that I give him a look out carefully If satisfied taken and if not convinced he took it back to me and refrained from dealing with those legal papers and odd banks and accounts in circles recognizes employees and citizens shattered those currencies which have become a heavy burden on all people. 

The home Hadi Thamer Karim (owner of a shop selling clothes): Ban all banks the world has people especially received where all banknotes torn and prepare lists them and sends them to the central bank for the purpose of destruction and printed alternative after taking numbers old and seems that the competent authorities in Iraq, uninterested for this matter and do not want to print a new editions. 
The Wael Ghanem Hamid (taxi driver) on our currencies National made of paper is good and edition is also good but why are all this damage? Even we were puzzled and started Kmtdaulin to this currency and how to promote them after that we reserve currency is torn inside our homes and we spend in anticipation of the future. 

It showed Faiza Hussein Jassim (employee): that the majority of employees and I'm one of them when we receive salaries, we find many of them contain those currencies what prompted us sort the good from Ripper for circulation hoping to take her shop owners or drivers of taxis, keep them as good for we use after Ripper him. 

And suffered Abbas Rasim Hassan (retired) on wages received from the ports to the large papers shattered where when he says: our salaries low and our requirements so many plus those securities shattered that contribute to the difficulty of paying our debts or to owners of generators and after discussions and Atabat long with his port delivery salaries given us some other and Nhtar department in how to dispose of them, so must help citizens who became suffers from its national currency that do not promote torn. 

For his part, warned member of the parliamentary economic committee Aziz al-Mayahi of the exploitation of some gangs pumping counterfeit currency into the market during the switching process damaged by a new categories of existing currency by the central bank calling to take significant steps to tighten control on the process of change to prevent this from happening. Said Mayahi press statement: After the failure to reach an agreement to implement a project to change the existing currency by deleting the three zeroes from the current period, Valtjo central bank about the currency exchange current damaged to another through a new contract with a foreign company to do so and added: must be implemented process according to legal procedures tight because there are criminal gangs specialized economic counterfeiting currency exploit this opportunity to ask groups forged to the domestic market and thus will affect the financial and economic situation in the country has announced the CBI for his contract with a British company to replace the currency damaged with new ones. / End 

http://www.baghdadiabian.com/news.php?action=view&id=36881

WHEN YOU SEE THE NATIONAL MEETING TAKE PLACE YOU WILL THEN SEE THE RV, 21 NOV

11-21-2012  Newshound Guru Randy Koonc: Do not get discouraged, remember this is a political event not just an event...That is why there is not one Date out there that matters, Not 2013 or even this week...When you see the National Meeting take place you will then see the RV...Iraq does desire to have their GOI completed, they know about Maliki and so they will finish....One thing to keep in mind if Shabibi did not have control on what is happening there would have been an RV already because that is what Maliki tried to do..." as far as I am concerned I do not care on whether they have complete GOI or not."  So you can see that the Plan to put the GOI together is still valid.  All the Smoke that is out there is only distractions to the purpose they are striving to do and that is the National Meeting.
Get your eyes off of dates and just on when the GOI gets there National meeting to happen.  If you expected to be wealthy without work involved then that will not be the case...if you expected it to happen overnight well that is not the case either...If you expect it to happen in Six months well that has not been the case either...so based on History of this event you cannot put a date on events to happen...Look for National Meeting announcement...Look for the National meeting to actually happen...Look for the Ministers to be announced...then we will look for the RV...Not until then will it happen...Breathe remember it does not matter how bad it gets over there they will eventually get it done...I admit that it has taken longer than anyone of us wanted but it will happen...Just keep looking for the national conference (National Meeting) this has to happen to announce the ministers, there will be no RV until the ministers are announced...RELAX.

DISCUSSION OF MED, 21 NOV


Med (11:15:58):   I WANT TO TOUCH ON WHAT IS GOING ON   IN IRAQ

    Dinar Investor: ok

    Med: THEN I AM THROWING MY BODY INTO THE HOT TUB

    Dinar Investor: all ears

    Med:    I BELIEVE THAT MALIKI HAS PROBABLY  MADE THE     MISTAKE THAT WILL COST HIM THE PM  AND POSSIBLY PRISON

    HE COULD GET AWAY WITH SOME OF THE OTHER MP'S  AND FIGURES  BUT TALIBANI WAS TOO MUCH OF A UMMM   TIP OF MY TONGUE   ICON FOR MALIKI TO MESS WITH  ESPECIALLY SAYING HE HAD DEMENTIA  AND OTHER ISSUES

    THIS IS ***** THAT SADAAM PULLED THEN AGAIN MALIKI WAS A STUDENT OF SADAAM
    I PERSONALLY THINK THAT MALIKI'S REMOVAL  IS BEST FOR IRAQ   AND FOR US   IT MOST LIKELY WILL DIVERT A CIVIL WAR

    busman: do you think that will happen?

    Dinar Investor: Agreed

    Med: CIVIL WAR

    busman: removal

    Med: I THINK THIS IS CLOSER THAN BEFORE

    busman: i think civil war is also close

    Med:    UMMMM  I SAY MORE RHETORIC  THAN ACTUAL VIOLENCE BUS  FOR THE MOMENT

    Dinar Investor: Hes just trying to remove everyone in power and put his own people in so he can have power

    Med: YES HE HAS TRIED

    busman: i hope you are right

    Med: BUT THOSE HE PUT IN ARE MORONS COMPLETE AND UTTER MENTAL MIDGETS I AM A BIT SURPRISED THAT WE HAVE SEEN NOTHING

    Dinar Investor: People are starting to notice first you steal the PM from Alawai (correct spelling?) Kick shabs out now try talabani? i think people see through him now

    Med:  ON THE CIVIL UNREST  THAT WAS REPORTED

    busman: DI he is trying hard to set up a dictatorship

    Med: HE SURELY IS

    Dinar Investor: Oh i know it

    Med: HEY I HAVE TO GO

Breitlings Wed Report 11212012

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 21 NOV


11-21-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Article:  "Kurdish MP: Iran told us to search for an alternative to owners (Iran is searching…poor translation)"   This is very, very bad news for Maliki. Iran is looking for his replacement, the US won’t talk directly to him (other than through the VP and then only in the language of threats). He’s in deep trouble. Good for us and the rest of the world. Ironically, this from a fairly credible news feed

11-21-2012  Newshound Guru Mike   Maliki seems to be in a little bit of hot water right now…I’d look for him to maybe end up in front of Parliament real soon… They want to hear about this case of Shabibi and the Central Bank but they’re trying to keep it quiet and on the Q.T. for now.

11-21-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana    There is a huge misconception amongst a lot of people. The misconception is something like this: "Since the average Iraqi makes X per year or day or hour now, there cannot be an RV because then nobody would work". This simply isn't true!  If you are in the middle of a pay period, and your currency suddenly gets swapped for a different currency,your employer is going to simply going to pay you in the different currency. They aren't going to pay you an exorbitant amount above what the agreed salary was...they will adjust...if the old Dinars gain value, hey - GREAT NEWS for those that have them!  But everyone else can expect to get paid or compensated in the NEW currency, and TOO BAD for them.

11-21-2012  Intel Guru Footforward   I believe that Shabibi is gone, don't know where, moved out of the way.  Shabibi has done everything he needed to do.  The GOI has no affect over the RV.  The HCL is done and if it is not they can use the old one while they work on the new one.  I believe we are in a process of acceleration.  Iraq is crying out for an RV & will not benefit from a low rate. Ban Ki Moon is going there to negotiate Chapter 7, they wouldn't be going there if Iraq still had things to do & weren't close.  I believe that they did try to RV Saturday night & it didn't go through.  I don't know why at this point.   This can still go anytime and I believe it has to be really quickly.  [post 2 of 2]

11-21-2012  Intel Guru Footforward   The dong will never be over $2, never be over $1, never be over $.50, ever, period.  It is very unlikely to be over $.20.  The dong will be lucky to come in at $.05, but it is still a great investment The  IQD will far out pace the VND.  The dong is not going to be the better option.  We have recently been hearing the dong is going to go early. The reason for this misinformation is so that you will sell your dinar & buy dong. There will be zero chance to double dip.  The dong & dinar will go together.  I believe that things are moving & going to happen.  This has to happen soon.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

11-21-2012   Newshound Guru Kaperoni   we have some pretty compelling documentation that support that Iraq will honor the dinar at it's face or printed value at whatever the foreign exchange rate may be. 

11-21-2012  Intel Guru Blaino   we are getting continuing intel which confirms the fact that we are close: most recent...Someone involved in work ( an international body, financial in nature) directly related to the rv in the middle EAST... In iraq actually (most of the time) was not allowed to return home until the work of that project was complete in all respects. He/she/they came home last NIGHT!...so, the waiting grows SHORT.  Know that we are very close! I spoke about a "live rate" on a final hold since last THURSDAY...With a buy and a sell RATE...WELL.... It's still up! The hold on it is the type used for the final time frame before release.
..So they tell me!

 

FOOTOFORWARD, PHOENIX, KAPERONI & OTHER, 21 NOV


11-21-2012 Intel Guru Footforward: The dong will never be over $2, never be over $1, never be over $.50, ever, period.  It is very unlikely to be over $.20.  The dong will be lucky to come in at $.05, but it is still a great investment.  The  IQD will far out pace the VND.  The dong is not going to be the better option.  We have recently been hearing the dong is going to go early. The reason for this misinformation is so that you will sell your dinar & buy dong. There will be zero chance to double dip.  The dong & dinar will go together.  I believe that things are moving & going to happen.  This has to happen soon. I believe that Shabibi is gone, don't know where, moved out of the way.  Shabibi has done everything he needed to do.  The GOI has no affect over the RV.  The HCL is done and if it is not they can use the old one while they work on the new one.  I believe we are in a process of acceleration.  Iraq is crying out for an RV & will not benefit from a low rate.  Ban Ki Moon is going there to negotiate Chapter 7, they wouldn't be going there if Iraq still had things to do & weren't close.  I believe that they did try to RV Saturday night & it didn't go through.  I don't know why at this point.   This can still go anytime and I believe it has to be really quickly.

11-21-12 Phoenix3333: Nujaifi announces an initiative to defuse the crisis between Baghdad and Erbil. A statement by Nujaifi Office said: " Nujafi will begin a series of meetings with political leaders in Baghdad and Erbil to reach radical solutions." 

11-21-12 Kaperoni: We have some pretty compelling documentation that support that Iraq will honor the dinar at its face or printed value at whatever the foreign exchange rate may be.

As I said unlikely Maliki would leave even if there was a vote of NC. He thinks he is the only man for the job. IMO, best at this point, to hold the GOI together and put out the currency under the current situation. They wasted too much time already.


11-21-12 Tlar: Shabibi is old news and the IMF is still working with the CBI. I guess no one man is more important than the world economy. The IMF appears to be playing with the hand they have been dealt.

11-21-12 Carrello: Civil war is one thing, Maliki is another, but if anybody thinks we are not going to leave troops in the ME wherever we conceivably can due to oil, they need to wake up. Thousands of troops are just across the border in Kuwait and have been for a while, plus we have the largest billion dollar embassy in the world sitting inside the Green Zone, that is basically self contained, 104 acres I believe.

11-21-12 Scalp: "Suhail looking with the International Monetary Fund to support the Iraqi Central Bank." IMF is keeping out of it, makes me believe the lift the zeros and rate change is still on. I think if monkey boy took over cbi to stop it we would see more of an uproar from IMF,UN,US, just everyone. IMF and everyone else showing they dont really care about whats happened is a massive positive to take away from this mess. If they aint worried why should we be!

11-21-12 DocDinar: Iraqi-Kuwaiti relations are warming up nicely with many positive developments of late. 

With respect to Chapter VII, the Coordinator of Missing Kuwaitis said, “We seek to remove the file from the international framework and Iraq from Chapter VII.” Furthermore, the UN Ambassador will report to the UNSC on Iraq’s continued commitment and their readiness to be removed from Chapter VII.

Kuwait will open consulates in the cities of Arbil and Basra in addition to other embassy offices in a number of provinces.

After 22 years, Kuwait is operating flights to Iraq.

Yes, it has been a long time coming but these positive developments should encourage anyone holding Iraqi dinar. Keep the faith. We are closing in on our dreams!

ADAM MONTANA POST, 21 NOV


[Adam Montana] Ok, I know we all have a lot of cooking and preparing and maybe even work to do before our holiday tomorrow, so let's do the weekly chat

[Adam Montana] First, a very Happy Thanksgiving to all of you at DinarVets and anywhere this chat transcript may end up... I appreciate all of you and I am thankful to be part of such a wonderful group of people. I hope you all have a wonderful day tomorrow, even if you're a Lions fan

[Adam Montana] now to dinar

[Adam Montana] I'm sure a lot of people have questions about Hamas, so I want to just spearhead that one right away

[Adam Montana] Hamas is a big deal in the Middle East, and my thoughts and prayers go out to all those people... unfortunately, the nature of those lands does not permit long term peace and I really doubt any of us are surprised to see yet another disturbance in that area.

[Adam Montana] But in regards to our Dinar investment, I think the bigger picture is still good
I'll swing back to Hamas in a second, after I discuss two other things

 1: the value of the Dinar, and the rate it could reach compared to how it is now.
  [Adam Montana] There is a huge misconception amongst a lot of people. The misconception is something like this: "Since the average Iraqi makes X per year or day or hour now, there cannot be an RV because then nobody would work". This simply isn't true! Look at these numbers: If the average Iraqi makes 2 million IQD per year (the equivalent of $2000), how much do you really think they have stockpiled? I am going to say not much!

[Adam Montana] (Don't hold me to that figure, I may be slightly off on the exact amount the "average" Iraqi makes... but I am in the ballpark)

[Adam Montana] If you are in the middle of a pay period, and your currency suddenly gets swapped for a different currency..... your employer is going to simply going to pay you in the different currency. They aren't going to pay you an exorbitant amount above what the agreed salary was.... they will adjust.

[Adam Montana] The point is that if the old Dinars gain value, hey - GREAT NEWS for those that have them! But everyone else can expect to get paid or compensated in the NEW currency, and TOO BAD for them.

[Adam Montana] Now the 2nd item is this - the HCL

[Adam Montana] it seems that a lot of people think this "should be done by now" and "why is it taking so long"..... Posted Image COME ON! We are talking about something equivalent to a Microsoft-Google merger. This is NOT a small matter! It's not something that can be outlined on a napkin and pushed through overnight.... OF COURSE it is taking a long time!

[Adam Montana] Now, that brings me back to Hamas

[Adam Montana] Last month alone there were FIVE major meetings, where MAJOR headway was made on drafting the new HCL law.

[Adam Montana] Friends, that is MAJOR progress.

[Adam Montana] ...but there is still some work to be done, and I am sad to say that I can't give you an exact date it will be done... but I am happy to say that I am confident it is going forward, and I also feel confident that the Hamas situation will be settled down by then, which means that the situation in Hamas should not be a major factor on our investment

[Adam Montana] And that is my official statement on the current situation. Now for the questions... DK, fire away!

[Dinarkicker] SPOTLIGHT Hey wassup Adam my question to you is that can a old currency and a new currency exist together, tho one of the currencies has more value than the old. What will happen to the old currency.Just Curious,GO RV

[Adam Montana] Hey SPOTLIGHT, thanks for the question. There are a couple ways this could happen.

[Adam Montana] The worst case scenario in my opinion is that the old currency is assigned a lower value and the new currency is given priority, with the intention of removing the old currency permanently and immediately... but that does NOT mean there is no other way to move forward

[Adam Montana] The whole premise of an "RV"... the whole point of this "plan" - is that a revalue of the VALUE of the dinar will reintroduce the wealth that is currently "missing". To do this, they can introduce a new currency with a "nominal" value, phase out the old currency at a steady pace, but also keep the "nominal" value of the old currency until it is phased out.

[Adam Montana] There is no rule or law that prevents them from doing this. ] And that's exactly what we are hoping they do

 [Dinarkicker] smee2 Considering the newly launched service to email us when the RV happens, or I think it also mentioned relevant news about the RV, I would like to know if Adam is expecting the wait to last a long time. I certainly got that impression while reading his plans for the site which is composed of several sites. The kind of time and energy that those plans would take indicate they would be a long standing thing rather than short time, and yet in his question period ... at least the ones I have read, he seems to lean in the "any day now" direction. Does not compute. Please advise.

[Adam Montana] smee2, you've been here a long time... I'm surprised to see you call the email service "new". This is something I put together years ago. The same goes for the Post RV sites and preparations... While we have seen tremendous growth and advancements in the options and sophistication of our  options, none of this is a "new" development.

[Adam Montana] For any of you who may be new to the site, I encourage you to take a look at what you might be missing,

[Adam Montana] Regarding my opinion of the current situation - that hasn't changed either There is always the chance that it could happen today, tomorrow, next week, or never. That's just a fact we live with as investors.

[Dinarkicker] MD34 Hi Adam. There seems to be a couple of different vibes from your recent posts. Not trying to put you on the spot BUT...Between 'This could take forever' or 'Might happen in seconds' or 'Will never happen the way we want it to at all' Would you mind ELABORATING on your thought process. Many thanks in advance.

[Adam Montana] doh! I think I was premature on my last answer.

[Dinarkicker] brbrlocke Just want to let you know how thankful I am for You and Your site Adam. I wouldn't have a clue without this group of great people. Happy Thanksgiving Adam. Happy Thanksgiving DV Family

[Adam Montana] brbrlocke - you are indeed welcome. Thank you for the nice words

[Adam Montana] next please!

[Dinarkicker] shydude Since it is Thanksgiving Week, I would like to give a Whopping Thanks to Adam for keeping me grounded for the year of 2012. Since Adam will most likely do his chat and not take the week off; I will post this question - What is your secret recipe for keeping yourself cool and collected with the constant barrage of When will it RV? I would gladly pay for that recipe so I can tolerate the people that still ask on a weekly basis. THANK YOU ADAM

[Adam Montana] shydude... I am constantly humbled by the emails, PMs, and posts that are made by the members here. If I have any "secret recipe", I guess that's it... I focus on the positive people and I tend to ignore the negative ones... I guess it's a "smile and nod" strategy :lol:   Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours as well

[Dinarkicker] waitingondinar Adam, Do you have any thoughts on some articles stating the Arbil agreement is being worked on and Malaki has been in communication with Biden?

[Adam Montana] hey waitingondinar. We have been seeing reports of Biden talking to Maliki pretty consistently for quite some time now, well over 6 months... this is not a new thing. It's important to "check" that fact by comparing it to the other things Biden does - he also meets with diplomats that have nothing to do with Iraq

[Adam Montana] So the question is: "Are Biden's meetings with Maliki significant?" I can't say that they are, but we definitely want him to be meeting rather than NOT meeting Maliki.

 [Dinarkicker] cashman54 Adam, when looking for news articles, are there some news agencies that we should focus on more and some that we should avoid?

[Adam Montana] GREAT question!  I'm not going to give specific sites, but I will give a little advice  What I do when I am reading an article is cross check with the usual places - google, yahoo, bing, etc    Any BIG news will be on multiple outlets. Also, be careful when you are reading "translated" articles

[Adam Montana] And finally, look for feedback on these news sources. The awesome thing about DinarVets.com is that we have some amazing newshounds that constantly post things even I wouldn't have found... but we also have a great community that gives feedback and insight on these articles that you can't find anywhere else. Our COMMUNITY is an amazing resource!

[Adam Montana] Speaking of our Community, DinarKicker posted a list of news sources some time back. That would be a good place to start

[Dinarkicker] Sitkadoc Hi Adam, Could you please expound on the TAG accounts? Should we worry about setting one up or is that not necessary when we have the offshore account? Thanks.

[Dinarkicker] <<< blushing

[Adam Montana] Oy vey, the TAG subject again! :lol:  ] I am a huge fan of anything that our government does NOT have control over, so in my opinion - you simply can't do better than a solid offshore account.

[Adam Montana] The whole premise behind the TAG accounts was at one time promising, but as the foundation eroded and as the laws supporting it have been weakened, I no longer find the TAG account option to be viable.  I hope that answered for you.

 [Dinarkicker] TimS My brother just got back from 4 weeks in ME...Iraq, Kuwiat, Israel and Egypt. He is in banking industry and said… … My question : In light of everything happening over the past year are your sources still telling you that the RV is emminent, meaning has good chance to take place within next 12 months?

[Adam Montana] Hey TimS, thanks for the question. I clipped part of it, and I'll explain why. Unless your brother has spy devices in the offices of the President(s) of Iraq, Kuwait, US, etc... I don't think he has access to "all" of the information available. So what you are doing is asking me to give my opinion on someone else's opinion.... :lol:

[Adam Montana] Now about my "sources" - I hate to use that word, because I don't have top secret clearance to government files, and I'm not a guru. My "sources" are just people that I network with and some of them happen to be very intelligent and connected... but I'm still not going to have the "inside information" that most "Gurus" claim to have :lol:

[Adam Montana] The people I am in contact with are all over the board - some of them want nothing to do with the Dinar, and some are very involved in it. Thanks for the question

[Dinarkicker] magawatt It seems (and I appreciate that it may only an apperarance) that the momentum for an RV has stalled. Is the train still a-chuggin? Thanks and Happy Turkey Time.

[Adam Montana] magawatt Happy Turkey day to you too I have no reason to believe the train has stopped chugging, so YES! Choooooo Chooooooooooo!   :lol:

[Dinarkicker] LIBoy If a train leaves Chicago traveling east at 75 miles per hour and at the same time a train leaves NYC traveling west at 65 miles per hour. At what point will the two trains intersect?

[Adam Montana] LIBoy, I think you're giving me a trick question... I need more information. You neglected to tell me: 1. Where are the trains headed? 2. Are they on the exact same track? 3. If so, what is the route of that track? 4. etc etc

 [Dinarkicker] bamagirl Do you prefer Dressing or Stuffing with your turkey?!?! Happy ThanksGiving Adam, Mods and all of DV... I am thankful you all are a part of my life!

[Adam Montana] bamagirl, I am thankful you are with us as well! Thank you for your positive contributions to the forum. The answer is dressing

 [Dinarkicker] vietnam1969 Hello Adam, staff and all the Dinar Vet Family. If the dinar doesn't rv by the end of this year, do you think the capital gains tax will go through the roof and what do you think will happen to the Dodd- The F rank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act? Do you think it will be amended to help or hurt us when this happens? Thanks to you and your wonderful staff and associates here in DV. and HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you and your family and all of the Dinar Vets families.

[Adam Montana] Good question bbWell, we already know that capital gains is set to go up   we also know that Obama is in his last term and is raising taxes on EVERYONE, despite his claims to the contrary

[Adam Montana] and quite honestly, it is foolish to think that he will suddenly stop raising/spending/borrowing/stealing... so I'm not sure how I can possibly give an answer that will make anyone feel good

[Adam Montana] At this time there are options to move your assets into vehicles that will protect against the aggressive pilfering we can certainly expect over the next 4 years.  Best regards, all.

[Adam Montana] Ok that was it... open floor. Thanks for the respect, this room never ceases to amaze me. HAPPY THANKSGIVING, DV FAMILY!

DINARLAND RUMORS, 21 NOV


[WILDDUCK] goldman they got calls yesterday and today that they could expect their money and contracts in a few days. So for me it is confirmation from a weird angle that no one has followed. It trangulates with the dinar land rumor and severe lack of intel

 [goldman] WILDDUCK interesting angle...but good!

[WILDDUCK] goldman Ok don't order yet, My guys have been camped on the MSN site and we know that Panda has threatened to Roll the VND if things did not move along, OK Panda has a hook into MSN so what better sight to make you poiint that your ready to go. It is trading ther buy and sell changes
goldman] WILDDUCK i heard that earlier today,  hope it's not true

[tradewind] Wildduck interesting thank you

 [WILDDUCK] goldman I think that it is just a wake up call to keep moving forward, now you go back to my first post re platforms built on Dinar and it will have a better bell ringer for you.

 [WILDDUCK] tradewind you are most welcome did not think anyone was paying attentionn

[HIGHERGROUND] WILDDUCK hello and thanks

[HIGHERGROUND] WILDDUCK yes...paying attention.....

 [goldman] WILDDUCK finally got the code!

[tradewind] Wild duck always listen to your comments and I appreciate them

 [dinar1203] WILDDUCK - always paying attention, was hard to follow cause was not seeing responses from goldman until now

THERE WILL BE A MEASURE GETTING VOTED ON THIS COMING FRIDAY TO RELEASE THE REVALUED IQD TO BE TRADED IN AMERICA, 21 NOV

[Blaino] we are getting continuing intel which confirms the fact that we are close: most recent... Someone involved in work ( an international body, financial in nature) directly related to the rv in the middle EAST... In iraq actually (most of the time) was not allowed to return home until the work of that project was complete in all respects. He/she/they came home last NIGHT!...... 

 [Blaino] so, the waiting grows SHORT.... Item: there will be a measure getting voted on this coming friday... To release the revalued iqd to be traded in america (when the time comes) .... Seems some a$$ in a position of POWER... And who is fixated on taking from the haves and giving to the have NOTS.... Wants to stall till after january 1ST.... And the new tax situation that is in the pipeline as you read THIS.... Well, that vote would not matter one whit if the rv was not real close! 

[Blaino] get ready for criminal taxation LEVELS.... Me worries! 

[Blaino] ok, see you all later this EVENING.... Know that we are very close! I spoke about a "live rate" on a final hold since last THURSDAY..... With a buy and a sell RATE.... Remember? WELL.... It's still up! The hold on it is the type used for the final timeframe before release... So they tell me!