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Tuesday, October 30, 2012

DISCUSSION OF MICHIGANDER, 30 OCTOBER


[michigander0131] Time to Get Tough on Iraq By NUSSAIBAH YOUNIS Published: October 29, 2012 Cambridge, Mass.

THE next president of the United States must fundamentally reassess America’s broken relationship with Iraq. So it is up to the United States to change Mr. Maliki’s calculations to bring them in line with American interests.

To do that, the next American president needs to increase the costs to Iraq of pursuing its current activities. He can, and should, threaten imminent financial sanction and public humiliation of the Maliki government.

Even apart from the Syrian crisis, the United States should be getting tough on the Maliki regime to prevent Iraq’s descent into authoritarianism.

Mr. Maliki has further undermined Iraq’s independent institutions, such as the electoral commission and the Iraqi central bank, by bringing them under his direct custodianship .
Mr. Maliki is, in short, presiding over a disintegration of Iraq’s representative political system, and the United States is doing nothing about it.  LINK
 [michigander0131] Washington: US Iraq out of Chapter VII-VI Tuesday 30 1 2012 15: 54 GMT The United States, confirmed Tuesday, they work out Iraq from Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations chapter VI, noting it has worked to resolve differences between Iraq and Kuwait.

The US Ambassador in Iraq, Stephen bikroft told the media, "NPR.org, that" the United States has worked hard behind the scenes with Iraq and Kuwait for settlement differences ", stating that" our office in United Nations working to finish the requirements of Chapter VII. "

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 [michigander0131] 10/31/2012 12:00 am Beecroft: No plans to bring in troops and will provide sophisticated weapons to Baghdad BAGHDAD - morning She U.S. embassy in Baghdad for interaction strongly with the Iraqi government in order to exit from Chapter VII, noting it worked great behind the scenes between Iraq and Kuwait in order to encourage settlement in this area.

 Said U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Stephen Beecroft told the "Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network, "on the sidelines of a meeting with a number of media that" Iraq and Kuwait countries neighbors, and we want that Eetmtaa relationship better with each other, "noting that the Washington Office with the United Nations works great for an end to all the requirements of Chapter VII. 

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  [michigander0131] IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde Calls for Action Now to Secure Global Recovery Press Release No.12/358 September 24, 2012

Christine Lagarde, Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund, today urged policymakers to use the window of opportunity offered by recent policy decisions—and to take the actions needed to achieve a decisive turn in the global crisis. “if not by October, then as soon as possible thereafter.”   LINK

 [michigander0131] The disappearance of the Iranian rial pilgrimage and replaced by the U.S. dollar By: electronic newspaper Iraq | On: Tuesday 30/10/2012 He stressed that the money changers in Mecca declared boycott fully deal with the Iranian rial, which no longer has any value at all.   LINK  

[Gullwing] michigander0131 the 2nd to last article had a September date.  Am I missing something here ?? TY

[michigander0131] Arrest warrant on Shabibi .. The point of view of constitutional and legal Update :: 30.10.2012 20:10 By Ismail Al Timimi There is no doubt that the central bank has shown great competence and success testifies in cash management in Iraq since Mr. Shabibi this position in 08/30/2003

Therefore, the decision to dismiss Shabibi or the decision to withdraw his hand two  decisions of the Constitution and the Central Bank Act explicitly call Shabibi to bring a case before the Federal Court to rule unconstitutional decision and canceled for being issued by a non-competent issuing.   LINK

[michigander0131] Gullwing yes you are the last sentence she said read it again ] Gullwing just shows how much IMF would like to see counties change their policies on economic growth

[michigander0131] it is a lawyer stating that Shabibi has no worries when it comes to the allegations of Maliki  /Maliki has no authority to do what he did /per their constitution

 [michigander0131] its one of many coming out in shab’s  defense

[heaven1] michigander0131 good so no biggie then it’s done then

[michigander0131] well he will have to still go /but it will more than likely be thrown out and hopefully after this has blown over we can get back on track to the final result before end of year

[jsimmons] sandinar I don't have my face in the book 
[sandinar] michigander0131 Amen

Oct 30 8:43 PM [michigander0131] and hopefully after this has blown over we can get back on track to the final result  before end of year

Oct 30 8:45 PM [michigander0131] IMF reiterates its call to Iraq to lift subsidies on oil derivatives, energy and ration card Monday, October 29 2012 09:15

He added that "the International Monetary Fund to support Iraq during the past period, as part of an agreement includes contrast raise support for the Iraqi citizens." And that "the International Monetary Fund will increase its support for Iraq if the Iraqi government not meet their obligations to raise support for the Iraqi citizens."

The IMF had demanded, earlier, the Iraqi government to lift subsidies on oil products and energy, as well as the removal of subsidies on the ration card as a condition for providing loans to Iraq.    LINK 

Oct 30 8:45 PM [michigander0131] This is a great article. With the high level of poverty, the IMF is asking Iraq to stop subsiding these items; oil derivatives (oil, gas, heating fuel, etc), energy and ration card (flower, wheat, etc).

That is the bare necessities of life. This is another way of saying...RV your currency now! The IMF is asking the GOI to give the citizens some wealth! Can you imagine lifting these and doing nothing? The countries inflation would go way up and would turn to chaos.

Oct 30 8:46 PM [Agent 007] mangiabuona2 just lost power - doesn't know when it will be back up

Oct 30 8:49 PM [michigander0131] network to ensure that they reach to Iran Close to Maliki manages suspicious financial dealings with a bank in Baghdad 30/10/2012 Informed parliamentary sources revealed all financial and commercial transactions to a deputy close to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki with a bank involved with money laundering in Baghdad. LINK 

Oct 30 8:50 PM [michigander0131] so now they are coming out against malliki//bout time

Oct 30 8:51 PM [NavyVet] Nothing happens until he is gone....... so, lets get to it:)

Oct 30 8:51 PM [michigander0131] NavyVet right on

Oct 30 8:52 PM [michigander0131] NavyVet im still thinking before end of year been saying it for 6 months now and still believe it from nov 1st to jan 1st IMO

Oct 30 8:53 PM [NavyVet] Hope'n right there with ya..... but , my guy still says at least June..... who knows at this point.....
Oct 30 8:54 PM [NavyVet] he could die:)

Oct 30 8:54 PM [michigander0131] ill take whenever just hurry up already lol  ok all have good night wave

Oct 30 8:59 PM [jgrines] after the elections you will see them move like the wind
Oct 30 8:59 PM [jsimmons] jgrines like sandy? lol
Oct 30 9:00 PM [jgrines] jsimmons yes
Oct 30 9:00 PM [jsimmons] the people on the east coast says they can keep it roflmao

Oct 30 9:24 PM [toni1960] [TERRYK] GREAT POST MICHIGANDER

[michigander0131] 10/31/2012 12:00 am Beecroft: No plans to bring in troops and will provide sophisticated weapons to Baghdad BAGHDAD - morning She U.S. embassy in Baghdad for interaction strongly with the Iraqi government in order to exit from Chapter VII, noting it worked great behind the scenes between Iraq and Kuwait in order to encourage settlement in this area.
Said U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Stephen Beecroft told the "Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network, "on the sidelines of a meeting with a number of media that" Iraq and Kuwait countries neighbors, and we want that Eetmtaa relationship better with each other, "noting that the Washington Office with the United Nations works great for an end to all the requirements of Chapter VII.

[TERRYK] THAT MEANS WE MAY SEE THIS TONIGHT AS I WAS TOLD OR TOMORROW  ITS THAT CLOSE

[michigander0131] TK thanks
[TERRYK] A LOT GOING ON BEHIND THE BIG PICTURE  AS I SAID THIS MORNING THAT THIS MAYBE SEEN TONIGHT OR TOMORROW WHEN THE MARKET OPENS

[michigander0131] IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde Calls for Action Now to Secure Global Recovery Press Release No.12/358 September 24, 2012 Christine Lagarde, Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund, today urged policymakers to use the window of opportunity offered by recent policy decisions—and to take the actions needed to achieve a decisive turn in the global crisis. “if not by October, then as soon as possible thereafter.”

[TERRYK] SO WE ARE HAVING A HALLOWEEN PARTY HERE JUST WANTED TO STOP IN AND SAY HELLO AND WATCH THE NEWS

 THERE IS A BIG ONE RIGHT THERE  BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE ONE AND ONLY MICHIGANDER  GOOD FIND BRO  THAT IS HUGE I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING CHRISTINE FOR THE PAST MONTH  SHE IS THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO PUT THE BALL  IN MOTION

 [TERRYK] KEEP THE FAITH ALL I KNOW ITS HARD BUT WE ARE THERE  GOD BLESS YOU ONE AND ALL  LATER ALL  LISTEN TO MICH HE HAS THE ARTICLES

[michigander0131]  TKI agree IMF pushing for countries to start doing what they have suggested/hoping that they listen

TERRYK POST, 30 OCTOBER

[TERRYK] GREAT POST MICHIGANDER  THAT MEANS WE MAY SEE THIS TONIGHT AS I WAS TOLD OR TOMORROW  ITS THAT CLOSE A LOT GOING ON BEHIND THE BIG PICTURE

[TERRYK] AS I SAID THIS MORNING THAT THIS MAYBE SEEN TONIGHT OR TOMORROW WHEN THE MARKET OPENS

[TERRYK] SO WE ARE HAVING A HALLOWEEN PARTY HERE JUST WANTED TO STOP IN AND SAY HELLO AND WATCH THE NEWS

[TERRYK] THERE IS A BIG ONE RIGHT THERE  (POST) BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE ONE AND ONLY MICHIGANDER  GOOD FIND BRO  THAT IS HUGE

[TERRYK] I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING CHRISTINE FOR THE PAST MONTH  SHE IS THE ONE THAT IS GOING TO PUT THE BALL IN MOTION

 [TERRYK] KEEP THE FAITH ALL I KNOW ITS HARD BUT WE ARE THERE  GOD BLESS YOU ONE AND ALL   LATER ALL  LISTEN TO MICH HE HAS THE ARTICLES

[michigander0131]  TKI agree IMF pushing for countries to start doing what they have suggested/hoping that they listen

Washington confirms it is aiding Iraq out of Chapter VII; Resolving differences between Iraq and Kuwait, 30 OCTOBER


Washington confirms it is aiding Iraq out of Chapter VII; Resolving differences between Iraq and Kuwait

Washington: US Iraq out of Chapter VII-VI
Tuesday 30 1 2012 15: 54 GMT
The United States, confirmed Tuesday, they work out Iraq from Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations chapter VI, noting it has worked to resolve differences between Iraq and Kuwait.
The US Ambassador in Iraq, Stephen bikroft told the media, “NPR.org, that” the United States has worked hard behind the scenes with Iraq and Kuwait for settlement differences “, stating that” our office in United Nations working to finish the requirements of Chapter VII. “
Bikroft added that “there are reviews every six months and we hope that Chapter VII becomes chapter VI,” the United States strongly interact with the Iraqi Government in this field and are working to support them as much as possible. “
The Iraqi Foreign Ministry announced, (23 October 2012), Emir of the State of Kuwait has agreed to settle the issue of compensation to Kuwait Airways caused by edema, Iraq asserted that Kuwait informed law firms in Britain to stop all actions on airlines and property.
Iraqi-Kuwaiti relations have seen recent progress in resolving some outstanding issues, as agreed during the visit of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to Kuwait on 14 March last, to end the issue of compensation for KAC and maintenance of boundary markers, as agreed foundations and common frameworks to resolve all files, within short time frames, with Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, who accompanied Al-Maliki to visit that what has been agreed is substantial progress with regard to Iraq out of Chapter VII.
Kuwait has demanded since Iraq’s invasion in 1990 to pay $ 1.2 billion as compensation for seizing 17 aircraft owned by Kuwait Airways, this file to political problems between Iraq and Kuwait following the recent lawsuits against Iraqi Airways for frozen in Jordan and Britain early in 2010, which led later to take the Iraqi Council of Ministers adopted a resolution in May of the same year, filters and cancel the company and offered for sale to eligible companies, also decided to cancel all administrative profiles Associated with maintaining cadre after sale to a private company.
The Iraq since 1990 under Chapter VII of the UN Charter imposed after the invasion of Saddam Hussein’s regime State Kuwait in August of the same year, this item allows the use of force against Iraq as a threat to international security, in addition to freeze large amounts of stock in international banks to pay compensation to those affected by the invasion
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DISCUSSION OF MED UPDATED, 30 OCTOBER


Med (16:00:05): HEY
       Aunt Gwennie:    I am all mix up with Iraq. all this different info.is this the storm befor the rv
    mpw: i pray so
    Aunt Gwennie:    so do I mpw    hope your feet are getting better Med

    Med:    NO REASON TO FEEL MIXED UP    THE PROBLEM FOR YOU AG    IS THAT WE AS WESTERNERS    LOOK AND SEE    HOLY CRAP WHAT A MESS    BUT FOR THEM    THIS IS NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL    THIS IS THE MIDDLE EAST

    stlou: where you can watch Jihad Jimmy 5 nights a week

    Med:    MOST OF WHAT IS POSTED AUNT GWENNIE    I DONT GIVE IT EVEN A LOOK
    Aunt Gwennie: you are correct Med

    Med:    I KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO FOLLOW    OR IMPROVE    I MEAN THEY NEED TO IMPROVE    LOL    NOT EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN IRAQ
    Aunt Gwennie: you know of 10 years of waiting for improvement...you think they would have somthing by now

    Med:    IS PART OF RV    WELL I DID GO OVER THAT YESTERDAY
    Aunt Gwennie: yes you did
     Med:    I MEAN A COUPLE DAYS AGO    THIS STILL IS ABOUT SHABIBI    I DO SEE THAT THINGS HAVE SEEMED TO CALM DOWN AND IT SEEMS LIKE    THEY ARE ACTUALLY TRYING    TO SETTLE SOME OF THE MAJOR ISSUES

    NOW I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT ARTICLE    THAT SAID 800 MILLION USD    IS BEING SMUGGLED OUT WAS IT DURING THE ENTIRE YR

    Aunt Gwennie: its sad us weasterners would like more but can't see that this is their norman speed

    Med: OR WAS THAT A MONTH
    Aunt Gwennie: I was thinking a month

    Med:    HECK  AG    IT TOOK THEM 4000 YRS TO AGREE THEY SHOULD *** *** *** ***
    Aunt Gwennie: hehe. your correct MED

    Med:    LOL    FIGURED I WOULD THROW THAT ONE IN
    Aunt Gwennie: made me feel better it did

    Med:    GOOD I AM GOOD FOR SOMETHING    BBIAB
    Aunt Gwennie: ok

    Med: I HAVE TO FIND THE SPACKLING

    Aunt Gwennie: Three sisters ages 92,94,anf 96 live in a house together. One night the 96 year old draws a bath. She puts her foot in and pauses. She yells down the stairs "was I getting in or out of the bath"? the 94 year old yells back "I don't know.

I'll come up and see." She starts up the stairs and pauses. Then she yells "was I going up the stairs or down?"

The 92 year old is sitting at the kitchen table having tea listening to her sisters. She shakes her head and says "I sure hope I never get that forgetful." She knocks on the wood table for good measure. She then yells "I'll come up and help both of you as soon as I see who's at the door."

    jfraser: (lol)

    guardian:    i went to SallyDS's link for her article: US report says Iraqi auditors believe up to $800M is sent out of Iraq illegally each week    it was a different article so i posted it in a reply in Reply #6

    Med:    THINK ABOUT THAT    IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE
    Aunt Gwennie: dinars or USD

    Med:    HECK IF THEY RAN THAT MUCH USD    OUR OF IRAQ EACH WEEK
    guardian:    her's was translated from english to arabic then back to english imo    lol

    SpankyI: (})
    Aunt Gwennie: that would explain the missing money

    Med:    NO I KNOW WHAT IT SAYS GUARDIAN    IT IS NOT THE TRANSLATION    IT IS I THINK A LIE
    guardian: parts were missing

    Med: ALL OF A SUDDEN
    guardian: that i added from fox news's article

    Med:    OK WAS THAT THE ONE WHERE US INVESTIGATORS    GOT INFO FROM THE IRAQI AUDITORS
    guardian: Iraqi auditors http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...d=1#post133601

    stlou: http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...603#post133603
    guardian:    disclosed the findings about the extent of the alleged money laundering TO American officials last month    Americans were not at fault

    Med: BUT ISNT THE CLAIM GUARDIAN

    stlou: The Iraqi Central Bank announced, on his contract with a British company to replace damaged currency with a new, replacement will be early November next, noting that those currencies constitute only 1 percent of the currency in the market

    Aunt Gwennie: the notes I have are in great shape

    Med: SO EARLY NOVEMBER NEXT
    guardian: ok you're right yes

    Med: IS THAT ONE YR FROM NOW
    stlou: which would be..next month

    Med:    RIGHT    SO THINK ABOUT THIS
    stlou: early november

    Med:    THEY JUST PUT OUT    THEY WERE THINKING OF    THEN TODAY IT IS THEY ARE DOING IT    IT WAS BEFORE JAN    NOW IT IS NOV    THE NEW PRINTS WILL COME OUT    NOW ALSO THINK ABOUT THIS    IN THAT ARTICLE THAT STLOU WAS POSTING    I MUST HAVE READ IT TOO FAST    I THOUGHT LOU YOU POSTED    A SENTENCE

    Aunt Gwennie: now the note exchange will start in november of this year

    Med: RIGHT BUT
    stlou: it was a sentence in it

    Med:   THEY SAID ABOUT THE SMALL NOTES    AND THEY WILL BE THE ONES THAT WILL BE PRINTED    I NEED TO PULL HISTORY

    guardian: he posted this one above http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...603#post133603

    Med:    YES    THAT IS IT    SEE THE WORDING    CHANGING OF BAD CATEGORIES
    guardian: yes

    Med:    NOW IS THIS JUST A BAD WAY TO EXPLAIN TATTERED    OR    HMMMMMM
    guardian: 1000 and 250 are bad if you think of the new replacements

    stlou: good question med..

    Med:    SOMETHING KIND OF SMELLS    IT IS WAY TOO CONVENIENT
    stlou: what do you get for exchanging? 25000 = 25 1000 notes or 100 250's

    Med:    YES    WHICH SURELY DOES NOT REDUCE THE LIQUIDITY    OR THE AMOUNT OF TOILET PAPER THEY HAVE TO CARRY    TO BUY SOMETHING

    stlou: so you mean to tell me they're going to carry around MORE bills in their pockets Med? makes no sense at all

    Med: THAT IS WHAT I JUST SAID
    guardian: in the plan thought they said a 1000 note will become 1 dinar

    Med: LOL
    stlou: yes I know

    Med:    YES GUARDIAN    OH OK    DUH
    guardian: duh

    Med:    NO ME DUH    NOT YOU
    guardian:

    Med:    OK I HAVE TO RUN AND GET CINDY A PASTY    BBIAB

    guardian:    ok hold that thought    whether they like coins or not, they are getting them according to their plan    that'll force them to do alot of phone banking (lol)

IRAQ WILL BE RELEASED FROM CHAPTER VII, 30 OCTOBER



SWFloridaGuy: Great news today!! It looks Iraq has made some real progress and their efforts to work on bilateral relations with Kuwait have not gone unnoticed. Iraq will be released from Chapter VII. It's being worked on behind the scenes as we speak.

 They are not out yet but eventually they will be and sooner rather than later it appears. This marks an important milestone in the restoration of Iraq’s normalized ties to the international community. The removal of the Chapter VII Charter of the UN is a significant step in returning Iraq to the legal and international standing it held prior to the 1990 invasion of Kuwait.

This announcement comes 4 days after the UN Compensations Commission on the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait announced the allocation of $1.09 billion to compensate 5 Kuwaiti "governmental" companies which remain nameless. 
Once finalized, their removal from Chapter VII will be a meritorious accomplishment for the country of Iraq and for investors a sign that Iraq is on a general road to economic recovery. The article says it all -- "We Are Working To Remove From Chapter VII. The United States is working on removing Iraq from Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations to Chapter VI, noting that it worked great for the settlement of disputes between Iraq and Kuwait.

The U.S. ambassador in Iraq Stephen Beecroft said the United States worked very hard behind the scenes with Iraq and Kuwait for the settlement in the differences between them. Our office at the United Nations is working to end the requirements of Chapter VII." "There audits every six months and we hope that turns Chapter VII to Chapter VI.

The United States interacts strongly with the Iraqi government in this area and we are working to support them as much as possible. The Iraqi Foreign Ministry announced, in (23 October 2012), that the Prince Kuwait agreed to settle the issue of compensation Kuwait Airways incurred owed by Iraq, while confirming that the Kuwait informed law firms in Britain to stop all proceedings on the airline and property in Iraq."

BLAINO POST, 30 OCTOBER

Junebug: Blaino: I wanted to reinforce the fact to all of you here that we cannot allow the "INTEL" to   us off on a goose chase.... so far "they" have been consistently WRONG, proven over time! We have been VERY accurate over the last 14 months... One of my contacts shares that "they" are bragging up the "New" currency and promising to reveal all to the public prior to the release... This new stuff is highly vaunted to be "Forgery Proof" in all respects and they will detail the features to the people on the public screens, as well as the private in country networks. 

They say this will happen before the release and that is .... (glasses) akin to honest lawyers, the Easter bunny & Santa Clause. This part is "direct from MisDis Intel services" read that twice... OK, you two in the back... 3 times... and remember some of my older posts. Now... if we hear what they SAY, and watch what they DO.... and use past history.... we know that..."the people will learn as a child does." 

The "new Money" is the smaller denominations which are anything but "NEW" although "those worried about comfortable language" may get some additional series now and ALL the updates on the "New Bills" (think: expiration date, shelf life) will have this 'comfortable language' right there for the world to see. Remember, think... and ask not what Blaino can tell to you, but rather ask what you can figure out for your self!

 I am also told that this MAY (regard as rumor) be an injection of Mis-Dis Intel to see how fast and where it "POPS" up first.... [in my best Spock] "Fascinating.... and imminently logical as a drawing out device!" Remember the last email

   "In OTHER NEWS.... Guru's call for the RV this evening... or tonight... uh, maybe tomorrow..... at last report, nobody's BELIEVING and nobody thinks it's real.... and THAT"s the way it IS..... here on PlanetDinar.com, The CUTTING EDGE of the IQD revaluation, so, as they say here...... "Mind your toes!" Till then.... live life worry free and engaged with your friends and family! Calmness radiates across the Dinariverse and throughout the Chat-o-sphere from it's LOGICAL point of origin.... .... naturally methinks! Blaino: MORE LATER... ENJOY!

The continuing crisis of the Central Bank without solutions will delay the implementation of the project to delete the zeros, 30 october


The continuing crisis of the Central Bank without solutions will delay the implementation of the project to delete the zeros

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BAGHDAD (Iba) .. Expect a member of the Knesset Finance Committee good Auzmn, that affect the issue of central bank and recent tensions banking on delayed replacement of the currency and delete the zeros to be implemented early next year.Said Auzmn told the independent press (Iba): The Committee of Finance and the Central Bank announced earlier about replacing the currency and delete the zeros early 2013 but continued tensions case the central bank without finding solutions would delay the implementation of the project until after next year.
He added: that the delay in the implementation of the project to delete does not affect the currency as it affects the citizens heavily money supply and increase their numbers when trading in local markets.
And continued Auzmn: to delete the zeros will reduce the current inflation rates resulting from the increase in the money supply for the lack of supply of goods and services.
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TLAR, KAPERONI & SANDY POST, 30 OCTOBER


10-30-12 Tlar: Systematically Maliki has connived his way to this point and mostly gotten away with it. But it is different this time. Internally and externally he has crossed the line. The opposition is finally reading the constitution and using it as a reference tool. Maliki has violated the constitution on numerous occasions since 2010 but never have we heard the outcry as we are at this time. He has made a grave mistake attacking a man with Shabibi's reputation and credentials.

The best is yet to come IMHO. Maliki will be tied to the thirteen and he will be shown to be the one orchestrating the corruption and theft in Iraq. The international community knows much more that they are letting on at this time. You don't come from nothing to a multi-billionaire in a few short years on Maliki's salary as PM. There is always a trail that if searched for hard enough, will lead back to the real crooks. 


10-30-12 Tlar: "Attorney Paul warns of counterfeit currency during the pumping process 10-30-12 Tlar: "Attorney Paul warns of counterfeit currency during the pumping process of changing bad categories by new CBI." Iran must be out of the authentic dinar again and is ready to swap out their facsimile ones. I'm sure this will be acceptable to Malibaba. Shoot maybe this is the reason to stall the removal of the zeros. Iran has run low and needs some more real ones before Iraq RV's the currency. Hey Iran, I'll send you some of mine if it will speed this up.

10-30-12 Kaperoni: Article: "IMF reiterates its call to Iraq to lift subsidies on oil derivatives, energy and ration card" This is a great article. With the high level of poverty, the IMF is asking Iraq to stop subsidizing these items: oil derivatives (oil, gas, heating fuel, etc), energy and ration card (flower, wheat, etc). That is the bare necessities of life. This is another way of saying, "RV your currency now!" The IMF is asking the GOI to give the citizens some wealth! Can you imagine lifting these and doing nothing? The countries inflation would go way up and would turn to chaos.

10-30-12 Sandyf: "Soliman - Three presidencies (the Presidency, the Prime Minister, Presidency of the Council of Representatives) are able to set a date to hold a National Meeting and difficulty held." End quote. The 3 presidents are: President of Iraq - Talabani. President of the House of Representatives - Najafi. President of Kurdistan - Barzani. Maliki is not a president, just thinks he is.

DISCUSSION OF MED, 30 OCTOBER


   Med (21:27:11): HI

    tudor:   surfsidedan has a great ? for you Med    dan ?
    BAM BAM: Question, does Turki the acting Govenor of the CBI have the power to pull the trigger ???

    Med: NO
    tudor: and if not who does
    BAM BAM: that was dans queston

    Med: HE CANNOT
    tudor: I was right on the first part lol

    Med:    HE IS A PROXY    AND HIS ONLY RESPONSIBILITY    IS TO MANAGE    THE DAILY OPERATIONS
    tudor: right and Shabs was not taken out by parliament

    Med:    UNTIL EITHER SHABS IS REMOVED    OR HE IS RETURNED
    tudor:    so the RV is in limbo til this is straightened out then    the Shabs mess    hahahaha

    Med:    I HAVE SAID THIS RIGHT FROM THE START    OF THE SHABIBI ISSUE
    BAM BAM: lol very approate responce lol

     Med: THERE WILL NOT BE ANY RV
    tudor: yes you have

    Med:    UNTIL IT IS SETTLED    SEE WHAT HAPPENS    WHEN YOU DRIVE A HONDA   O    M    G

    tudor: I remembered it didnt I :|
    surfsidedan: Shabs better get his a__ back
    tudor: its a shadow..............lol

    Med:  SONNY AND I DISCUSSED THIS IN GREAT LENGTH TODAY    WE DO NOT THINK SHABIBI WILL RETURN
    tudor:    and ya dont drive it you RIDE it!!!    really why not

    Med:    I DONT    YOU PUT IN ALL THE FACTORS    EVEN IF NOT GUILTY    HIS CHANCES OF MAKING IT OUT OF IRAQ ALIVE    ARE DISMAL
    tudor: that is true

    Med: HEY HE GAVE THEM 8 YRS
    tudor: and that is sad

    Med: SCREW EM
    tudor:    do you think he will even defend himself?    or just fade away

    Med:    HE CANNOT FADE AWAY    IF THEY PROSECUTE IN ABSENTIA    HE WILL BE A WANTED MAN   FOREVER

    tudor: oh ok    and that is not good

    Med:   NOP    AND THEY DO SEND PEOPLE TO ELIMINATE YOU
     tudor: they need to go after M and leave Shabs alone

    Med: THEY WILL NOT
    tudor: to me they are prosecuting the wrong person

    Med: THOUGH IT APPEARS THAT THE US IS NOT DEALING WITH THE IRAQI GOVT ANYMORE
    tudor: but I am not an Iraqi

    Med:    AS THE LEADERS OF THE COUNTRY    AND THE GOI IS DEMANDING THAT THEY DO    NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
    tudor: so what do you think will happen in the near future Med? any thoughts

    Med:    OK WHERE IS TUDOR AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE WITH HER?    DO YOU WANT A RANSOM
    tudor: hahahaha, she is hiding

    Med:    CUZ I DONT HAVE ANYTHING    FIRST I AM WAITING    OUR ELECTIONS    THERE RETURN    FROM BREAK

    tudor: parliament right
    BAM BAM: come on med look into your Crystal Ball and tell us lol

    Med:    IT WILL ALSO DEPEND ON DOES HE RETURN    OR DOES HE EVEN NEED TO    WE DONT EVEN KNOW YET    THAT THE 3 JUDGES AND PROSECUTOR
    tudor: can parliament decide without him there Med?

    Med: WELL YES ......BUT THEY WONT
    tudor: oh ok

    Med:    THOSE WHO LIKE SHABIBI    WILL WANT HIM TO SPEAK    I AM SURE IT IS THE BEST THING THAT COULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN    TO PUT THIS TO REST
    tudor: I hope he comes back and kicks butt

    Med:    LOL    THAT IS CUTE
    tudor:    hahahaha    I still think Shabs is good for Iraq

    Med:    I CAN JUST HEAR MY GRANSON SAYING THAT    HE WAS
    tudor: hahaha then he has learned well lol

    Med:    BUT WE ARE AT A CROSS ROADS    IN DEVELOPMENT    AND ECONOMIC STABILITY
    tudor: IMF wants things done and I dont see anything happening til parliament gets their act together

    Med: YUP
    tudor: yeah!! I got one! Lol
    carrottop: do you think that will ever happen?
    tudor: I hope so carrottop

    Med:    DONT WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT THEM TURNING THINGS AROUND 
    tudor: they sure can be

    Med:    AND STILL GONNA WALK AWAY    STILL RICHER THAN THEY DESERVE    OK I AM GOING BACK TO WORK
    tudor: well they have taken enough to retire in style

    Med:    HAVE FUN    TY ALL

    (Thank you's)

FRANK'S CC, 30 OCTOBER


Franks Conference Call w/Delta Monday @ 7 pm est 10/29/12
skype:freeconferencecallhd.7676 or Call 760 569 7676 pin 156996# RunTime 120   MP3 LINK 
Franks CC, Monday night, Oct. 29  by Zeke » October 29th, 2012,  
Frank ... Greetings ............... whats shaken !!!!  Delta will not be with us tonight.

No one is listening to Maliki.  Shabibi IS going back to Iraq... Turki will go away.........
IMF has obligation to rebuild Iraq. The GoI & CBI also has to work with the IMF........ ONLY the CBI is ready

If Iraq is in such bad shape then why did Biden invest 100K in housing in Iraq?
If the CBI is going to replace the 100 & 250 notes........ then why RI ????

Shabibi wanted to replace these notes in Sept of 2012. Iraq is a cash society, Iraqis do not have bank accounts, so notes wear out much quicker, due to handling.

Remember when Frank said that he didn't want any Ukrainians to tell him how to vote. Meaning: The UN is suppose to supervise the voting areas to look for any voting irregularities. The Attoney Gen. of Texas, just told the UN to stay out of Texas. Franks says there will be a lot of shananagans during voting this year.
Has the actions of Maliki interfere with the RV. Franks says it will not be an RV......... rather it will be an RI..... and NO, it will not slow the process. Frank is going to give "Time frame" for the RI tonight !!!!!!!

Frank hears that a lot of people compare the Iraqi Dinar to what happened in Kuwait. Franks says that when Kuwait RI'd their currency .... they made mistakes....... When Iraq RI's, the authors will not make the same mistakes and that "In Franks Opinion," the rate will be significant.

Frank talks about IMF article:

IMF reiterates its call to Iraq to lift subsidies on oil derivatives, energy and ration card

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 29 1 / OKRUDOLF 2012 09:15

Twilight News / diplomatic source revealed early Monday, a renewed claim the International Monetary Fund for the Iraqi government promises and the removal of subsidies on the prices of many materials, including petroleum and energy along with the ration card.

Said the source, who asked not to be named for " Twilight News ", that" the International Monetary Fund renewed its call for Iraq to lift subsidies on oil derivatives, energy and ration card. "

He added that "the International Monetary Fund to support Iraq during the past period, as part of an agreement includes contrast raise support for the Iraqi citizens.

The source continued that "this support includes petroleum and energy and the ration card, was the Iraqi government had requested period until the improvement of income of the Iraqi citizen."

And that "the International Monetary Fund will increase its support for Iraq if the Iraqi government not meet their obligations to raise support for the Iraqi citizens."

The source explained that "Iraq still needs the support of the International Monetary Fund in many aspects, including upgrading the fragile economic reality experienced by the country."

The IMF had demanded, earlier, the Iraqi government to lift subsidies on oil products and energy, as well as the removal of subsidies on the ration card as a condition for providing loans to Iraq.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) had announced the extension of the period the financial assistance program to Iraq for an additional seven months, which offers a total assistance of $ 3.6 billion.

The Fund approved in February of 2010 loan to cover the needs of the country's balance of payments, and has since awarded two tranches of assistance in October 2010 and March 2011.

Frank:

Walkingstick and SCers............Give me Your thoughts on this article......TY.

Everyone should read the following ..............................

Here is what WalkingStick said about the article:

As, with the budget.... agreement/s with the IMF on the PPB/ Budget.... The GOI, has been persistent... in, defying the recommendations of the IMF from the onset... Per their "articles of agreement" and "agreements" with the IMF, in... obtaining previous and future funding.... The GOI made a number of concessions/ promises to obtain such funding, only to... renege on such promises and agreements... The above, mentioned agreement/s .. in the article, demands that had been made by the IMF long ago. Although, they have/ had warned Iraq on a number of occasions... regarding the PPB/ Budget and fulfilling their agreements, this is the 2nd such... mention, of what.... some of those agreements entailed.... Leading to, the IMF.... threatening, to cease all future funding, if... they persisted in disregarding the IMF's recommendation/s and fulfilling their obligations, per the "articles of agreement".

Keeping in mind, the "articles of agreement"... for funding... Are, agreements made with the GOI... Not, the CBI

from Jim1126:  Come on, People....

Iraq knows what the IMF wants them to do. Its been on the "to do" pile for months!

This is a not-so-subtle reminder to GET-R-DUN! by the IMF cuz its getting down to the wire.

Ive been quiet lately because im waiting for the election to be done, and then....BOOM!

You will see an explosion of steps being taken to move this forward...IMO...IMO

Remember, the GOI needs to see the rate to include it into the budget, and Maliki wants the rate to get released from Chap 7 from the UN, T wants the rate to get HCL and 140 passed for the people, B wants the rate so they can move forward with contracts and get independence from the bozos(eventually..), S wants to give the rate to give his country national pride in their currency....

I think we might see the rate on or just after Nov 6, so they can vote on their budget to have in place before 2013...IMO

Their New Year is Nov 15, so we should see the dominos start falling soon...Just no help for O!

Sorry for rambling.....

Frank says ......... that the IMF states that Iraq is NOT using the funds from the IMF for the people of Iraq, they are pocketing the monies. The IMF has told them (2nd warning) to do as the agreement stimulates or we will cut off ALL funding to you (Iraq). If the IMF cuts all funding from Iraq, that means that Iraq will have to start paying its own bills. Iraq is going to have to start paying back the IMF in Feb. 2013, and the interest is going up.

Look how much is wrapped around Chapter VII - Frank says that the Kurds were ahead of Iraq in all areas, now, they are WAY ahead (several years, 5+) yet the still want to work with Iraq.

The IMF says to Iraq........ Get your GoI seated and ready........... the CBI is ready !!!!

Frank says that Shabibi wants the new rate in the 2013 budget, to be ready by Jan 1, 2013.

Frank says ............. IMO ......... you will NOT see a National Conference or Formation of the GoI until AFTER the US elections.

Frank gives his Timeline for the RI ............. "November 6, 2012 - January 20, 2013 !!!!!!!!!!"

The GoI is returning Dec. 15, 2012 ......... why are they coming back at this time ?????

Please read post 175 of yesterdays thread. Franks asked one of the Admins to bring it over and post it on todays thread.

Christine Legarde ............. has agenda to make the CBI "Strong."

She stated that the IMF and Iraq, wanted to do something after Oct. 1, 2012. Frank says it will be after the US elections.

Frank attempts to make a joke about Christine & "The Voice," with Christina Aguilera ............... (NOTE: Frank.......... PLEASE ............. leave the jokes to the professionals........ because that was not pretty .......... not pretty at all)

Frank did not jump on the "Shabibi is a crook," bandwagon. He has....... and always will........ trust his team, that he has had for 4 years now.

Q & A

Area code 617 - Susan. She asked, "Is Chapter VII the only thing that we are waiting on for an RV?"

Frank asked is she was new to this investment? She says, "Yes, about a month."

Frank then gives a summary of Iraq in the 1980's and what happened with Saddam & the Sanctions at that time. Iraq was not allowed to be a part of the International community. Frank says consider this ........... Chapter VII is like a broomstick. The bristles are all of the parts of Chapter VII ....... we are down to the last bristle, and that is the RI. Frank cannot prove that this, but believes it ....... 100%. he said "This is the final step."

Jim in Augusta, Georgia, (he is the guy that takes care of the leaderboard at that golf course). He asked Frank what is the timeline? We have heard is will RV on a Sunday, Tues or Thurs. He reference the Bloomberg interview where someone said, "One Saturday night you will go to bed and on Sunday you will wake up rich!"

Frank says it will be on a Tuesday or Thursday.

Jim asked one more question, "Will Hillary need to be in Iraq when it RV's?"

Frank says, "Yes."

Also ........... this is FRANKS opinion ........... and ONLY FRANKS opinion ............ "If Obama gets elected again, we will NOT see the RI in 2013 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Area code 414 - Jeremy. (he shares the same birthdate as Frank, Dec 20) He asked, "Why Nov. 6 - Jan 20 ???

Frank says........ "The GoI will seat itself for all of the world to see in this timeframe."

Frank has spoken with several banking experts, and they have told him........ "Look for chaos at the end of this."

Have you noticed that while Maliki has been saying ....... "Squirrel," the process for lifting the 3 zero's continues ???

Frank states that in the last 2 weeks of December ....... Look for Iraq to shut down ALL communication & info, so it will blind the world to what is going on inside Iraq.

Question ............ If Obama is re-elected, will this delay the RV?

Yes ............ the reason is............ the last time the world saw a like event ..... (Kuwait) ........ the wrong party got to use the money.

Eagle1 gives a brief report of US Bank. They told him that they are in the same position as Wells Fargo........ the are waiting for Chapter VII to be lifted. He also is going to be put in touch with US Bank's investment dept. He will keep us posted.   Frank closes with prayer.

Washington: US Iraq out of Chapter VII-VI , 30 OCTOBER

Washington: US Iraq out of Chapter VII-VI

Editor: SS | GS Tuesday 30 1 2012 15: 54 GMT

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The United States, confirmed Tuesday, they work out Iraq from Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations chapter VI, noting it has worked to resolve differences between Iraq and Kuwait. 
The US Ambassador in Iraq, Stephen bikroft told the media, "NPR.org, that" the United States has worked hard behind the scenes with Iraq and Kuwait for settlement differences ", stating that" our office in United Nations working to finish the requirements of Chapter VII. " 

Bikroft added that "there are reviews every six months and we hope that Chapter VII becomes chapter VI," the United States strongly interact with the Iraqi Government in this field and are working to support them as much as possible. " 

The Iraqi Foreign Ministry announced, (23 October 2012), Emir of the State of Kuwait has agreed to settle the issue of compensation to Kuwait Airways caused by edema, Iraq asserted that Kuwait informed law firms in Britain to stop all actions on airlines and property. 

Iraqi-Kuwaiti relations have seen recent progress in resolving some outstanding issues, as agreed during the visit of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to Kuwait on 14 March last, to end the issue of compensation for KAC and maintenance of boundary markers, as agreed foundations and common frameworks to resolve all files, within short time frames, with Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, who accompanied Al-Maliki to visit that what has been agreed is substantial progress with regard to Iraq out of Chapter VII. 

Kuwait has demanded since Iraq's invasion in 1990 to pay $ 1.2 billion as compensation for seizing 17 aircraft owned by Kuwait Airways, this file to political problems between Iraq and Kuwait following the recent lawsuits against Iraqi Airways for frozen in Jordan and Britain early in 2010, which led later to take the Iraqi Council of Ministers adopted a resolution in May of the same year, filters and cancel the company and offered for sale to eligible companies, also decided to cancel all administrative profiles Associated with maintaining cadre after sale to a private company. 

The Iraq since 1990 under Chapter VII of the UN Charter imposed after the invasion of Saddam Hussein's regime State Kuwait in August of the same year, this item allows the use of force against Iraq as a threat to international security, in addition to freeze large amounts of stock in international banks to pay compensation to those affected by the invasion. 


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Source: telephone confused the relationship between Maliki and Shabibi, 30 OCTOBER


Source: telephone confused the relationship between Maliki and Shabibi


The time on Tuesday, October 30 1 / Okrudolf 2012 10:57
Baghdad / Orr News
Informed sources said the office of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki that the relationship deteriorated between the prime minister and central bank governor article Shabibi after a telephone conversation tried him, al-Maliki to clarify a few things about the reasons for rising dollar against the Iraqi dinar, but Shabibi Maliki’s request not to interfere policy as cash-run Central Bank and focus on clarifying the political finance.
The sources told (UR) that “al-Maliki annoyed after closing contact with Shabibi said that this man behaves like Emperor lead the central bank does not understand how to deal with the rest of the institutions of government.”
He explained that “Maliki hired a number of laws to figure out how to get rid of Shabibi, which deals with the mentality of radical economic to Ataatlaúm with aspirations of Maliki.”
Al-Maliki said last week that his government had nothing to do with the issue of the sacking of the Governor of the Central Bank and the issuance of the arrest decision.
Maliki said through the website to his press office: “It is no secret that many differences with the government of Directors of the Central Bank and has serious observations on a lot of activity and monetary policy and so on, but the latest case were not connected government.”
He explained that “the turmoil that occurred in the price of the Iraqi currency to stimulate many regulators to investigate the activity of the central bank, including the method of sale of hard currency, banking, stock exchange and other”.
He added: “It appears that the investigation, which lasted more than a month ended up issuing a report carries Central Bank Governor Dr Sinan Shabibi Bank and others in the responsibility.”
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Warning of counterfeit currency during the pumping process of changing bad categories by new Central Bank says Economic Committee member and Attorney Aziz Paul, 30 OCTOBER


Warning of counterfeit currency during the pumping process of changing bad categories by new Central Bank says Economic Committee member and Attorney Aziz Paul



Date: 2012/10/30 12: 00: 40 Tuesday
Baghdad (newsletter) … Economic Committee warned MP/block Iraq’s Aziz Paul, of exploiting some bands pumped counterfeit currency into the market through the process of swapping bad categories new current currency by the Central Bank, to take important steps to tighten control over the change process to prevent this.
Said Paul (News News Agency): after the failure to reach an agreement to implement a project change current currency by deleting three zeros from the current period, the Central Bank has sought to switch the current currency damaged to a new contract with a foreign company to do so.
He added: the operation must be carried out in accordance with strict legal procedures because there is economic criminal gangs specializing in counterfeiting currency use this opportunity to ask local groups forged to the market and thus affect the financial and economic situation of the country.
The Iraqi Central Bank announced, on his contract with a British company to replace damaged currency with a new, replacement will be early November next, noting that those currencies constitute only 1 percent of the currency in the market.
Deputy Central Bank Governor Mohammad Saleh appearance, “the Bank contracted with a British company responsible for printing currency to print small groups and are the 250 dinars, 1000 dinars for the purpose of replacing damaged with a new”, stating that “this company is one of the big companies that prints nearly 60% of the coins of the world”.
Citizens suffer from the difficulty of small groups of procurement markets due to damage and rupture most especially both the 250 and 1000 dinars.
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