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Sunday, October 28, 2012

THE IMF IS REALLY PUSHING UNITED STATES AND IRAQ TO GET THIS DONE, 28 OCTOBER

  
[Blaino] HEY PLANETEERS AND DINARIANS! FEELING A LIL BETTER TODAY, SO NO WORRIES! I DID GET THAT BIG E-MAIL DONE AND SHIPPED... WATCH YOUR IN BASKETS FOR IT! ANY MINUTE NOW..... 

[Blaino] I HAVE BEEN BURNING UP THE PHONES ALL DAY TOO... AND I CAN SAY THAT "SOMETHING" IS GOING ON, WORKING TO FIND OUT WHAT... BUT IT'S SUNDAY... AFTER ALL... SO MEBBY TOMORROW WE'LL GET SOME ANSWERS!

 [Blaino] THIS E-MAIL THAT'S ON THE WAY IS CHOCK FULL OF "STUFF" ABOUT THE BIG DELAY...

Blaino] OK, WELL JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO, AND ALL THAT.... COWBOYS LOSE... THE LITTLE BITTY GOOD GUYS LOSE TO THE GREAT BIG BAD GUYS! BUMMER... AND JUST WHEN I WAS STARTING TO FEEL BETTER
[flashing] LoriC: I believe all the experience newshounds can agree that there is something to the November statement from Saleh (Deputy Govenor of the CBI). It's not a coincidence that Shabibi was replaced then they are back on track talking about new lower denoms being introduced. They are just being a little cautious how they word it so they don't alert the entire world a RV is less than a month away. Actually, if they are going  to re-denominate in Nov then they have to RV/RI now or in the next week I would imagine. Sure do hope this stays on track this time. We've never been this close

[GJHHonor] flashing Yes, believe we are very close.

GJHHonor] flashing Amen. Have been speaking to a young Iraqui born woman. We have talked about Iraq and the dinar among other things. With a great big smile, she said, "Yes, it will re-value".

[GJHHonor] flashing Plus, where we buy our dinar from, he is from Iraq. He is returning home as Iraqui gov't is giving their citizens land. cash & smart cards.

GJHHonor] flashing All is moving forward and positive.

[redhead1] I have been wondering why we are not hearing about the Smart Cards being used and what happened to the coins all of the gurus were reporting last month - does anyone know?

[GJHHonor] flashing Plus, a private banker we know and have had him in our home 4 times has invested heavily in the dinar.

[queenmother4] Flashing ok sorry to interrupt but I need to ask a question ,what makes you believe it's not just replacing the I damaged currency???

[flashing] Unirod: " Saleh added that "the month of November will start replacing currency damaged with new ones from the small groups," I don't ever remember the CBI making an official announcement regarding replacement of old worn out notes. What if the CBI is saying 250 and 1000 notes as a category that citizens understand? when in fact the  new notes released will be 25 & 100 Dinar notes? This would definitely mean a change in the rate is coming imo

[GJHHonor] flashing Yes, our Iraqui friend we know will be receiving the lower denoms when he gets back home in a couple of weeks. They have to take his fingerprints he told us in order to receive his smart card.

[flashing] queenmother4 thats not my opinion but loric

queenmother4] Flashing oh ok came in in the middle of that and didn't realize that

[flashing] queenmother4 anyway if i am going to isuue an opinion is just that we are almost there and they are just window dressing this event

flashing] if you want to know something hot- O has dinars.  i know that for a fact

flashing] please if we don't have an rv tonight or tommorrow don't be dissapointed. keep the faith

[flashing] expect the unexpected on an unexpected date

[woodguy 6250] flashing expect it on a day ending in y and a date of numerials LOL

[flashing] woodguy 6250 you will be surprised because you will be focusing on another storm roflmao roflmao

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[Slouch] KajunRedBull on WangDang (from GET) - Wang Dang says everything looks great...he expects lots of news this coming week...and Natl Conf wont be far behind....says the IMF is really pushing United States...and Iraq to get this done...his informant in Iraq says everyone is not using large dinar notes.

BREITLING, 4APROFIT & 8BALL POST, 28 OCTOBER


10-28-12 Breitling: They have plenty of U.S. dollars so their economy is not going to collapse; they are not in a danger zone. But, not having your own currency doesn't give international countries & companies too much confidence in you. There must be something on the table for them to know they will participate in the future. The numbers in the budget are pure garbage, the rate is complete garbage, and the auction floor is complete garbage. So, are they at the wall yet where they are forced to revalue? No, they are not, but they will have to revalue sooner or later. Maliki doesn't have control to say when it is going to revalue, he simply doesn't have that power. The only one that has that power is the governor of the CBI. They don't need to get out of Chapter 7 to revalue, the value has to do with the money supply and the dollars. So, when are they going to do it? Your guess is as good as mine!

10-28-12 4APROFIT: If they are so worried about counterfeiting in Iraq, then why is there just now all the hoopla and concerns over it, and like never before? It's like as if they are getting ready for something that quite possibly was not as much of a concern before, or until now or whereby perhaps they are scared that they may have to redeem something that might end up having a real value, because hey, if it is just going to remain toilet paper valued money, since the U.S. dollar is used predominantly anyway, then why fret or sweat it or make such a big deal over it, especially if there is no more of it out there in proportion to anywhere else in the world, if not even less? And we already know that there is a lot of U.S. Dollar counterfeit money, not only in Iraq, but the entire Middle Eastern region, like Iran, Syria, Lebanon and others especially due to the sanctions and instability in the region now.
Syria used to be the largest counterfeiters of the U.S. Dollar, and quite possibly may still be today, it was said that they had the most sophisticated equipment and techniques. Again, why would counterfeiters waste their precious time on something like the Iraqi Dinar, that not only has no value, but if these experts already are skilled and good at making the U.S. Dollar, that actually has a much higher value and is easier to trade anywhere in the world, why go south with your program and digress into worthless stuff?
Another point that I would like to make, is if the government needs finalizing, and the budget needs to be exposed and made public, and the real rate of the Dinar needs releasing, as per its true value, as it has been pretty much kept under an artificially controlled rate for appx. 3+/- years now, when prior to this for appx. 7-8 years the dinar rose in value, or until they stuck it, intentionally and then they have probably spent millions or more, and countless hours that could have been used finalizing everything else, haggling over the currency, mainly regarding the removing of the "zeros" issues with voting, deliberating, parliamentary procedures, etc., etc., etc., all over this so-called "worthless-currency" and all of a sudden.
NOW THEY ARE ON A MASSIVE CAMPAIGN TO RECOGNIZE AND CONQUER COUNTERFEITING." WOW! IMO IT IS NOTHING OTHER THAN A SMOKESCREEN AS THE DINAR DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH VALUE AS PER WHAT LITTLE OF IT THAT IS OUT THERE ON THE STREETS OF IRAQ TO CAUSE ANY DILEMMA OF "ANY SIGNIFICANCE." AGAIN, THEY ARE NOT SNOWING ME ON THIS ONE. ALL I CAN SAY IS IF THEY ARE SO WORRIED ABOUT THE CURRENCY ABOVE ALL ELSE THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IT SOUNDS LIKE THE CURRENCY MAY BE THE VERY THING THAT THEY MUST WORRY OVER.
AND YOUR TELLING ME THAT IRAQ, THE TOP GROWTH ECONOMY IN THE WORLD, (AS PER RECENT FIGURES FROM THE C.I.A. WORLD FACT BOOK), CANNOT EVENTUALLY HAVE A MUCH HIGHER VALUE THAN A TENTH OF A PENNY PER DINAR, WHILE COUNTRIES NEXT DOOR, EVEN KUWAIT, IS AT ALMOST $4.00 PER DINAR AND KUWAIT IS INVESTING IN IRAQ'S STOCK MARKET, INVESTING IN ALL THE SECTORS OF IRAQ, BIDDING ON IRAQ'S OIL, PUTTING HOTELS AND BANKS IN IRAQ "WEALTH FOLLOWS WEALTH, NOT POVERTY". GET REAL. THIS IS COMING AND IT IS NOT AN IF, BUT JUST A WHEN. IT'S CALLED FOLLOW THE MONEY!


10-28-12 8Ball: "Who is the delay? Shabibi? Maliki?" I think that Iraq has got what they needed and there is nothing left to do and they wanted it done and they got a reason why it couldn't happen; not what they wanted. I think the IMF is our safety.

JUST HEARD THE NEW US CURRENCY WILL BE OUT TOMORROW, 28 OCTOBER


[Dee1031] Just heard the new US currency will be out tomorrow
3:15 PM [yabba dabba] i want some new currency where do i get it...cooldancer

3:16 PM [Gabriel24] Anybody else think that this entire shabs and Maliki is nothing but smoke?

3:17 PM [Dee1031] yabba dabba what did you do with the rv?
3:17 PM [Dee1031] Gabriel24 I think so

3:17 PM [yabba dabba] i heard the pope has a few dinars...i bet he is in on the first tier for sure  
3:17 PM [Anne299] Dee1031 Do you think there will be any announcement about the new US currency, or will it just quietly be released?

3:17 PM [Dee1031] Anne299 jmo I think there will be an announcement
3:18 PM [Anne299] Dee1031 WOW! Cannot wait! I've been waiting for 15 years for this!

3:18 PM [Dee1031] Anne299 really?
3:18 PM [Anne299] Dee1031 Yep
3:18 PM [Gabriel24] 15 years ?

3:19 PM [Anne299] Dee1031 Related to global banking changes

3:19 PM [msjeta1] Dee1031 I didn't think that they could release the new currency without the rv and jmo but you won't see an announcement anymore than they did when we came off the gold standard but what do I know  

3:19 PM [Gabriel24] Anne299 ah..got ya :)

3:20 PM [Dee1031] msjeta1 yes so this means rv

3:20 PM [Gabriel24] IMO the RV is already done. Has been for a while now

3:20 PM [Dee1031] Gabriel24 this is what I heard too  just has to be announced or just show up

3:21 PM [msjeta1] Dee1031 well they better hurry then the day is half over already  

3:21 PM [Gabriel24] Dee1031 to the tier 3 people yes

3:22 PM [Dee1031] I probably will get more info later

3:22 PM [Gabriel24] Remember the IMF put Shabs in place and the US put Maliki in place. Shabs said that he won't retire untill the RV is complete  Lots of smoke out there right now ;)

3:25 PM [Gabriel24] Dee1031 the Rv nees to published in the Gazzet for 24 hours before an announcement can be made

3:25 PM [msjeta1] Dee1031 how is your weather?

3:25 PM [Dee1031] msjeta1 we were acatully ordered to evacuate ] but I am staying right here I don't see any of my neighbors leaving

3:26 PM [Gabriel24] you in the jersey area Dee1031 ?

3:26 PM [Dee1031] Staten Island New York  right by the beach

3:26 PM [msjeta1] Dee1031 I wondered if that got to you saw it on Yahoo news boy you be safe its not worth taking a chance

3:27 PM [Dee1031] Schools are closed tomorrow and all the trains and busses are stopping at 7PM tonight

3:27 PM [Gabriel24] Dee1031 you may not get hit that hard. Have my prayers

3:27 PM [Dee1031] Gabriel24 I hope not and thanks bbl

3:29 PM [Gabriel24] Dee1031 have a great one :)

3:29 PM [Dee1031] thanks you too

3:30 PM [Gabriel24] Guess I should get back to work as well. Great to meet everyone !

DISCUSSION OF MED, 28 OCTOBER


Med says to (10:32:05):  HI GUARDIAN

shriner5 says to (10:32:43): Hello SFMedic
surfsidedan says to (10:32:44): to me it does not make sense to print more of the current bills knowing that they will be replacing them hopefully the 1st of the year
Bioman says to (10:32:56): gm med

Med says to (10:33:01): HI SHRINER THAT WAS MY POINT DAN WHY

guardian says to (10:34:43): that's why i think it will be a switch of the new low denom and not the exact same old one...the 250 and 1000 they mentioned ({)

Med says to (10:34:51): I SAW THAT MY CONCERN AND IT ISNT A CONCERN  IS THAT USING THE 250 AND 1K IT MAKES ME GO HMMMM THE VALUE OF THE TWO OF THEM ARE NEGLIGIBLE AT BEST AND IN THE CURRENCY BOOK I THINK IT ISNT EVEN LISTED CUZ IT IS WORTH SO LITTLE THE 250 THAT IS DONT THEY ALSO HAVE A 500 I CANT REMEMBER

guardian says to (10:37:41): they are on the cbi website 50, 250, 500, 1000, etc.

Med says to (10:38:12): RIGHT
surfsidedan says to (10:38:25): That's correct i just checked it also guardian
guardian says to (10:38:29): the 500 is now being sold here in some places they weren't before

Med says to (10:38:41): OK IT IS FUNNY THE 25K NOTES HAD TO BE THE MOST IN CIRCULATION AND THEY WERE SUPPOSE TO BE REDUCING THEM IN THE STREETS
I WONDER WHAT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF HARD CURRENCY IS INSIDE IRAQ THAT IS FLOATING AROUND ON THE STREETS

guardian says to (10:41:08): true and they are supposed to be replaced with the new 5, 10, and 25

Med says to (10:42:51): NOW I KNOW THEY SAID THE ACTUAL REMOVAL TIME WHEN IN FULL FORCE WILL BE 12-24 MONTHS I AM THINKING THAT WE ARE REALISTICLY LOOKING AT JBOURI'S DATE OF JULY 1 THE ONLY WAY I SEE IT BEING JAN IS THAT SHABIBI IS EXONERATED

I THINK IF HE IS THOUGH THE PICTURE THEY HAVE PAINTED OF SHABIBI IN THE SMEAR CAMPAIGN IS NOT A GOOD ONE HE WILL NEED TO BE TOTALLY HONEST THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY

NO EVEN HINT OF REAL IRREGULARITIES CUZ WE ALL KNOW THAT MALIKI WANTS THAT 67 BILLION NOW IF YOU READ THE ARTICLE THIS MORNING HE IS TRYING TO GET SOME TYPE OF RELEASE  FROM ABROAD

MALIKI HE WANTS THE MONEY IT IS NOT IN IRAQ IT IS ABROAD IN BANKS

guardian says to (10:47:24): what's he up to now? lol

Med says to (10:47:24): MALIKI SAID HE NEEDS IT TO BUILD THE PRIVATE SECTOR ALSO ONE REALLY GOOD ARTICLE AND I HATE TO SAY THIS SHE WAS AN MP FROM THE NA

IT GAVE ME A BETTER PERSPECTIVE ON JUST WHO IS WASTING THE MONEY ALLOCATED TO THE PUT IN POWER AND SUCH

SHE SAID THAT THEY GIVE THE PROVINCES SO MUCH MONEY FROM THE BUDGET AND WANTS TO KNOW WHY SERVICES ARE DETERIORATING MORE STILL AND NOTHING IS IMPROVING

guardian says to (10:50:19): makes me sick *-)
tudor says to (10:50:51): sure would like Maliki to be reined in

Med says to (10:52:49): OK I AM DOING A SKYPE WITH MY SON JAMIE

carrottop says to (10:52:57): Hi Med
tudor says to (10:52:59): hi Jamie!

Med says to (10:53:00): I DO NOT KNOW WHEN I WILL BE BACK ON LOL HI TUDOR

tudor says to (10:53:12): hi

Med says to (10:53:13): TAKE CARE ALL

RV IN NOVEMBER?, 28 OCTOBER


10-28-12 LoriC: I believe all the experience newshounds can agree that there is something to the November statement from Saleh (Deputy Govenor of the CBI). It's not a coincidence that Shabibi was replaced then they are back on track talking about new lower denoms being introduced. They are just being a little cautious how they word it so they don't alert the entire world a RV is less than a month away. Actually, if they are going to re-denominate in Nov then they have to RV/RI now or in the next week I would imagine. Sure do hope this stays on track this time. We've never been this close. 

IRAQ WILL HAVE ONE OF THE MOST SOPHISTICATED BANKING SYSTEMS IN THE WORLD, 28 OCTOBER


10-28-12 Carrello: So much of this will be digital. If you remember there was an article stating anyone brining in dinar to exchange for new would have to go to a bank and would be allowed to only get 10k in cash and the rest would have to be deposited, along with getting an ATM card I would assume. Just putting the federal employees on direct deposit system, which would require a bank account, and I assume an ATM card, would cut cash transactions greatly. I think Iraq is farther along in the cell phone payment system than we in the US are, and along with SMART cards and all of the credit cards and banks offering loans, etc., they are not only eliminating cash transactions, but the cost of $$$millions to maintain the cash. As Scooter said a year and a half ago Iraq will have one of the most sophisticated banking systems in the world.

THERE WAS SOME VERY EXCITING NEWS THIS MORNING, 28 OCTOBER


10-28-12 Freebird: There was some very exciting news this morning. Saleh announced that in NOVEMBER they will start replacing currency damaged with new ones from the small groups. They are saying this but using the excuse "damaged" bills. BUT WE KNOW BETTER. For over 2 years now the CBI has been saying introduce the lower denoms in September and when that didn't happen Shabibi was suddenly removed. My guess is because he didn't want to move on the project without a power sharing government but Maliki had him removed with bogus allegations. Either way we're moving forward and Iraq will have to worry about their own corruption issues in the future. Iraqi citizens use the USD for local transactions so there is absolutely no reason to replace lower denom IQD which the CBI stated are used less than 1% of the time. This is obviously a sign the RV is coming or at least the introduction of the new currency and we assume they will have to add value before they introduce the LDs. It looks like my September prediction was only off by two months. Keep the faith. Go RV!! 


OPINIONS RELATE THE NEWS ABOUT THE ANNOUNCES OF CBI OF REPLACEMENT OF DAMAGED CURRENCY NEXT MONTH, 28 OCTOBER



Yota691:  Central Bank announces replacement of damaged currency early next month

Author: HM Editor: HAH | AA Saturday 27 v 1 2012 10:30 GMT  

http://www.alsumarianews.com/ar/3/50266/news-details-.html

"Alsumaria News", "Bank has contracted with a British company specialized printing currency to print in small denominations which the 250 dinars and the JD 1000, for the purpose of replacing damaged with new ones," noting that "this company is one of the large companies, which are printed approximately 60% of the currencies of the world. " Saleh added that "the month of November will start replacing currency damaged with new ones from the small groups," adding that "all these currencies damaged constitute only 1% of the currency in circulation , which are many but the value of a few. " and citizens suffer from the difficulty of purchasing groups of small markets because of damage and rupture most especially the categories of the 250 and 1000 dinars.

COMMENTS   - QUESTIONS &  OPINIONS ON ARTICLE:

Unirod:
  " Saleh added that "the month of November will start replacing currency damaged with new ones from the small groups,"  I don't ever remember the CBI making an official announcement regarding replacement of old worn out notes. What if the CBI is saying 250 and 1000 notes as a category that citizens understand? when in fact the new notes released will be 25 & 100 Dinar notes? This would definitely mean a change in the rate is coming....IMO
Dontlop: my take is .. the 1000 dinar note and the 250 note are scarce because they are worn out .. they are the most common notes and exchange hands most .. they are used to make change alot more than the 25 k note or other notes .. they are going to put more out on the private sector to replace old beat up notes ...nothing will change as far as value .. they are the same as the old notes .. just more of them ..

people must be complaining about a shortage of these notes .. in the market place where they are needed to make change

Butifldrm:   THIS ARTICLE IS VERY ENLIGHTENING TO WHERE WE SHOULD BE NOW

Wednesday July4, 2012

A member of the Finance Committee in Jubouri Haytham (15 May 2012) in an interview for "Alsumaria News", the month of January of next year 2013 will see the deletion of three zeros and the replacement of the currency, as will next September 2012, the direct printing of new currency in different categories.

(This is the guy that took out Shabs) ( Now tell me something isn't amiss with this whole scenario)

Gregp:
  How can they order new currency that fast? You have to schedule these kind of things. Write contracts. Pay in advance. There is no way between the time they let shabibi go till now to order, print, and deliver currency. There is more to it. I think we are there. Right before the election. I don't agree with the money needed for infrastructure and other things to freshen up the old currency, when they are so close to printing new currency. I call RV.

Rockfl9:  The reason the CBI would announce that they are replacing the worn notes is to quell the complaints of the citizens.... I think Shabibi fully intended to RD and issue new currency so he purposely didnt order replacements and put the money in the new currency ... His arrest fouled that plan . Now the old currency must be refreshed.... That's all!

Gregp:
  So you're saying they ordered, printed, and received new currency since shabibi has left. That's like miracle printing. Not sure if I agree. I'm thinking with the cost of printing new notes, and as close as we are to a revalue, this go time. I'm calling RV time. Right before the election.

Obama said he had a big announcement before the election and we haven't seen it yet. If we do see new notes in the first week of November, it's from shabs previous order, and the big plan. It takes time, planning, agreements, contracts, and above all, you have to be scheduled in with the printing companies, to get your contract printed. There is no way this has happened after shabs watch. It was put in place well before he left. JMHO

RodandStaff - Article:  “Bank has contracted with a British company specialized printing currency to print in small denominations which the 250 dinars and the JD 1000, for the purpose of replacing damaged with new ones “
 (I may be wrong here... but my take on this is ... they say they are replacing "worn out currency with 250 and 1000 Dinar notes... but they don't say which notes are "worn out"... could this be one way of removing some of the larger notes from circulation and replacing them with smaller notes?),

RodandStaff -
Article: “warning the imposition of fines on banks uncooperative to the point of suspension, as he emphasized that what is being replaced from the currency damaged in the bank does not exceed 30% of the damaged physical. “

RodandStaff:
  (Two observations here- first ... this is being forced on banks with severe consequences of fines if they don't comply, second- it involves up to 30% of their currency as I'm understanding it.... that is a pretty large percentage of exchanging if you ask me)

RodandStaff:
  Like I said... I may be wrong, but this could be "the announcement" we have been waiting for to replace some of the larger denoms with smaller denoms effectively reducing the supply of larger currency in country... which seems to me has been an objective of theirs all along before the RV. If that be the case then this is a good thing for us... and indeed makes it seem more eminent than ever!!! Time to "git-r-dun boyz"!!!  Thanks for the post Yota!!!   Come On RV Baby!!!

Hammer911: 
  What if everything went digital and they didn't have to print the money (new notes) right away.. Every body would have a smart card... Keep in mind, this is not about us.... JMO.... :twocents: GO RV!!!~~~

Carello: 
 So much of this will be digital. If you remember there was an article stating anyone brining in dinar to exchange for new would have to go to a bank and would be allowed to only get 10k in cash and the rest would have to be deposited, along with getting an ATM card I would assume.

Just putting the federal employees on direct deposit system, which would require a bank account, and I assume an ATM card, would cut cash transactions greatly.

I think Iraq is farther along in the cell phone payment system than we in the US are, and along with SMART cards and all of the credit cards and banks offering loans, etc., they are not only eliminating cash transactions, but the cost of $$$ millions to maintain the cash. As Scooter said a year and a half ago Iraq will have one of the most sophisticated banking systems in the world

Zigmeister: 
Remember when I mentioned I had a feeling all they had the Iraqi people in dinar was dilapidated dinar? This article pretty much proves it.

The fact is the smaller ones appear to be the ones in bad shape, meaning these are the dinar they use if they use dinar at all for transactions. I suspect the 25,000 is rarely used, they are not on the agenda for re-print. There might be some floating on the streets but I suspect very little.

Which means to me, we get the fresh already printed dinar out of country. I am not sure this is a good thing...

Preezad Shaaban demanding Maliki to resign , 28 october

Preezad Shaaban demanding Maliki to resign 


Date: 28/10/2012 11:48:06 Sunday 


Dohuk (news) .. Asked a member of the Kurdistan Alliance MP / coalition blocs Kurdistan / Preezad Shaaban, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to resign for failing to manage the security file as commander of the armed forces. 
said Shaaban told the reporter Agency (news) on Sunday: Yesterday was targeting a range of areas Kurds Shabak in the eastern province of Nineveh, we have not seen strong reactions to it, and that targeting this group because of their national and religious, adding: and I ask my Kprlmanah House Nuri al-Maliki Balastqal immediately, because it primarily responsible for managing the security file as commander of the armed forces. She Attorney Kurdistan: that Maliki failed managed to file security and it offer to step down quietly from office, and gives room for non to work peace and security of the citizens, stressing the lack of Bid blood people. This was killed by unidentified gunmen family retina is composed of three people armed attack on their house, while insurgents detonated family home retina also north of Mosul, and killed an armed group mother and daughter and wounding four of the Shabak also an armed attack on their house in eastern Mosul. said a police source (the news): The armed group stormed the family home of the retina and killed head of the family, his wife and his son, in the neighborhood competencies north of Mosul. added: that another armed group placed a bomb at the gate of the family home retina in the same area, and detonated this morning, leaving the blast wounded 6 of family members. At swordfish himself stormed an armed group a third family home retina, in the neighborhood of Sumer east of Mosul, and killed a mother and her daughter and wounding 4 of family members, and escaped. / end / 24.. /


http://www.ikhnews.com/news.php?action=view&id=61532