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Tuesday, October 23, 2012

BROAD OVERVIEW ABOUT THE SITUATION IN IRAQ, 23 OCTOBER



I haven't been on in a few days due to "life happening" but I did want to do a "state of the tree" (since it's campaigning time) address. I personally know that many of you have become dull to the everyday "my source says now til then" or the "everything looks great for this to happen any second now". At the end of the day, it's arrogance, neediness and irresponsible that others not only post on their sites but have the audacity to "email" posts to recaps to make sure someone reads it.

I have always been outspoken, like it or not, but have simply spoken what I believed earnestly from my own research and information in regards to this venture (I use that intentionally rather than investment, because for some it has become a "gamble"). Many speak out daily and many more ask about the circumstances of the day, hour, minute which has become impossible to keep up with. So many ppl bouncing from site to site searching for some little tidbit of information to confirm their positive belief, to give them hope this will end soon and yes, to help them survive til the next little bit of "intel" or article allows them to make it another moment, day or week.
I look around at some of the things being spoken at different sites. Some sites, merely worry about how many members they have overall and could care less about the number of ppl who actually come into their room to speak.

What does it say to have 400 ppl in a chat room and only 2 mods talking or reciting song lyrics? What do you accomplish by having 3 chat sites open at one time so you can carry one conversation to another room to see what carnage you can start with he said, she said? I know that I have stepped on some toes during some of my conversations and while I unapologetically stand behind those discussions because of personal experiences with those being discussed I have nothing but the best interest of everyone in mind in the final completion of this event.

With that said, I do believe there is a certain "responsibility" for words posted in chats and that has been become as much a crusade as attempting to help ppl be prepared for what comes next when this is over. So with so much misinfo around let me summarize as best I can where things are in a very broad overview:

1: The Iraq Theory -

Many have posted article after article over the dissension between anyone and everyone in Iraq. The reposts and rehashing of articles has become word weary especially when you find an article that has been repeated several years in a row. And now, with the Shabibi articles it has the Iraqi world turned upside down. How can this fellow that we were told for years has the best interest of his ppl in mind and was looking out for the greater good is corrupt? How can such blatant disregards for their constitution be implemented (wait, that happens here all the time, nice model) and carried out so directly in the media and conversations. Why hasn't a mainstream media outlet picked up on the Shabibi story if it is so upfront? It seems that someone would be crawling over an "exclusive" with Shabibi since he's not "in country".

Now we continually hear about the National Meeting and nothing can happen til the national meeting and they are having it this week, now next week, perhaps next month and every excuse in the book. My theory is still this, when everything on a global scale is complete, you'll magically see all these events (National Meeting, announcement of GOI, HCL, etc.) suddenly fall into place and happen suddenly to "line up" with all we've heard from the beginning. Again, while I don't believe Iraq has a major play in this AT THIS TIME (this was not the case early last year), it still will have internal things to 'show' the world upon completion. So yes, you will 'see' a National Meeting and such but at that point it will be window dressing for the actual event and is only being "put off" because the controllers are saying, "not yet, come up with another excuse".

2: The Obama Theory - (i.e., the conspiracy theories)

I only use the "O" theory because he likes to stick his name on things. This version wants you to believe that the president is using his executive privileges to halt, hold or otherwise delay the progress of said RV. We have heard any number of speculations as to the reasons for this to happen among others being, credit for administration, keep money from Republicans campaign or the continuing downgrade of the American economy.

At the same time, there have also been those that have said the delays were coming from Republicans trying to keep Obama from taking credit for this event. Then you have, well the tinfoilers, those that honestly think this is some larger conspiracy to enslave our population with dramatic ideals meant to do things to us that I will not repeat at the risk of sounding like committal is near. I struggle with many of these issues strictly from the standpoint of one person having that much power over a global event of these proportions. But, when you look at the voting power that the U.S. has in the IMF and the lack of sheer guidelines the administration responds to in regards to U.N. and World control it makes you wonder if there is a possibility of at least some manipulation on a minor scale. Again, we are talking about the most powerful job title in the world.

3: The Powers That Be theory -

I consider this to be the global economic recovery that many will refer to as the "battle of good vs. evil". Who are these "good" and "evil" ppl? What is the battle? Rather than get into that discussion with the "who runs what", let's look at the situation. There is a global need for recovery due to years of poor budget, or lack thereof, management. Free spending, socialized reform and constant borrowing have driven many countries to the brink of collapse. What appeared to be a "U.S. plan" to bankroll it's military spending, hence the "borrowing" of funds with the idea that it would be repaid upon the revaluation of the currency of the occupied country has since become an open opportunity for countries to "bandwagon" support for global recovery. Complicated, when you consider the sheer possibility of numbers of countries (195ish) that would be looking for the chance to "fix" their broken economies quickly and easily. Political posturing, greed, necessity and so many other factors have complicated this to the point that who really controls the process has become so convoluted that on any given day you would be hard pressed to pinpoint where the power players were or who was in control at that moment in time.

So that brings us to where I believe we are. I have stated that I believe ALL the theories will "look" or appear correct when this comes down. The timing will be such that I'm sure everyone will be claiming their "theory" was correct and taking credit for amazing information that they've been giving to you everyday since the last time they called it incorrectly. I look at chat room intel like a box of cracker jacks, you enjoy the taste of the caramelized popcorn and you get a cute surprise every now and then but you wouldn't want to make it a staple in your diet and get stuck picking things out of your teeth all the time. The ppl can spin it all they like but the bottom line is no, we don't know when it will happen and there is obviously no "defining" moment in the charts, oil prices or stock market we can look for. We "ventured" into this and with every venture comes a certain amount of risk.

The greatest risk with this is time. It WILL happen. The Dinar WILL change value. But no "intel" or phone calls or trying to explain to me that YOU know God's plan in all this will convince me that we are "one day closer" to something that anyone has said is the day. One of the biggest jokes last year was when someone stated it would happen by November 31st. When do I get "one day closer" to that on the calendar? I know this is an everyday battle to stay afloat and keep treading water in the midst of your financial burdens. I know that many of us NEVER wanted this to become a necessity for hopes of a decent quality of life.

I know that many are hurting in hopes to accomplish something for themselves or someone else. I know that it is difficult to plan day after day for something that never seems to arrive. But I also know, there are ppl out there who care and spend everyday praying for others, doing the little things that mean so much to each and every one of us and bringing a smile to a face that desperately needed a moment of relief for the day. It's the business of life and it happens everyday regardless of whether any currency in the world has changed in value. Think of dinar as it values to dollar as your life... it's only a fraction of a percent now until such time that it will add more value to your opportunities. Live Life. Be Ready.

TERRYK, MOUNTAINMAN,BOB,GAMBLER, ZIGMEISTER,BUTIFLDRM & GOLDIEGIRL POST,23 OCTOBER


[TERRYK] YOU WANT NEWS RODNEY IS GOING TO BE ON THE CALL TOMORROW NIGHT  MITT IS GOING TO WIN AND THE SUN WILL RISE IN THE EAST

WATCH FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT COMING THE 26TH OUT OF CANADA I CAN'T SAY ANYMORE OTHER THAN YOU ALL MAYBE CASHING IN NEXT TUESDAY OOPS AFTER THE 26TH

[TERRYK] WE NEVER TALK RATE ANYMORE CAUSE IT REALLY DOES NOT MATTER DOES IT I DON’T ASK ] AND TO ME IT’S NOT WORTH ASKING SHOOT ANOTHER CALL
10-23-12 Mountainman: The UNSC has no reason to keep Iraq under Chp 7 any longer. Kuwait and Iraq agreed on a financial settlement and the compensation law was even published into the gazette. So, it's absolutely official.

Now all that is left is for the UNSC to release them and if they don't, that tells us there must be some secret stipulations such as having an internationally recognized currency. Either way, we are one step closer and this is clear evidence that Iraq is moving forward and making progress on an international level.

The urgency to resolve the dispute with Kuwait, comply with the United Nations and the power struggle in the GOI to appoint someone who has control over the CBI all tells us we are close to seeing something happen.

Also, this Saturday the Committee of Five will submit a final HCL draft to parliament for approval finally. The United States announced they are building the largest embassy in Erbil to protect their investment in my opinion and it's no coincidence that just today Iraq adopted a new version of article 28 of the law on banks by the CBI to facilitate investing in banks, develop the banking system and allows banks to invest directly.

 The atmosphere has definitely changed from this time last year, or the last 3 years and I can't wait to see what happens next!!

Bob (Dinar Alert): Monday News - We begin another week looking at the Central Bank. Various economists, parliament members are now speaking out and coming to the support of Dr. Shabibi.

 1.) Integrity Committee: Shabibi victim attempts to acquire Central Bank.

 2.) Economy Parliamentary Committee warns of impact of Shabibi issue on the reputation of the Iraqi dinar internationally.

 3.) Financial and economic expert's (range): This is the wrong way to address the problem of the central bank.

 4.) Hindawi criticizes describes Russian arms deal and dismiss Shabibi "threat to the Iraqi economy."

 5.) Several meetings between President Jalal Talabani and political blocs to discuss national meeting

. 6.) Finance parliamentary reveal Iraqi politicians involved money laundering.

10-23-12 Gambler1: If we are to believe more than one currency will RV--then that includes the Chinese Yuan. The concept is that some countries’ currencies do not really reflect their intrinsic value.

One of those is China. So, politicians saying China holds the value of its Yuan down is exactly what we as investors in dong and dinar have been saying--that these currencies have to rise in value to truly reflect the assets and potential wealth of those countries. So, hearing that from the politicians last night fits right into our thinking.

Zigmeister:  I really doubt Shabs is guilty of anything. However he is the one who ran the show. I have no doubt there was some corruption in the bank. Three or four years ago Shabs brought it to Maliki's attention. As I understand it Malki kind of shrugged his shoulders on that. I guess he had better things to do, irritate the kurds and piss people off.

Butifldrm, on 23 October 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

I went to bed thinking last night, Something's not right with all of this. Why wouldn't Maliki have waited until Shabibi returned home to Baghdad to issue these warrants, if in case Shabs was manipulating the currency. WE all ready know the integrity commision came out yesterday and said they found no evidence of wrong doing from Shabibi.

Supposedly, Selah was one of the employees charged, then Maliki comes out with news that he could be a possible candidate to replace Shabibi. I know I'll probably get bashed for this, but I'm thinking this whole scenario is a ruse.

There is just too much conflicting news coming out of Iraq. What better way to disway speculation, than to discredit, then set up a take down scenario on the CBI. Could not the security forces surrounding the CBI be there for security and not arrests. Maybe, like gregp said, "We gonna see a RV" JMO

Goldiegirl Replies To Butifldrm:

Goldiegirl:  I agree with you 100%. I haven't been commenting on all of this much because frankly I don't believe any it. I'm not living with rose colored glasses. My gut is telling me this is all BS because as you have stated, it just doesn't add up.

With all that Shabibi has been in his career, there is no way he's "going out in style" as a criminal. He's too highly respected from the previous positions he has held with those organizations to ruin his reputation and I don't believe he needs to steal the money. I am sure he is more than wealthy.

Remember, Maliki owns all the news broadcasting stations and newspapers. He can say whatever he wants.

I feel Shabibi is hiding because he's not a good liar. He's an honest man who loves his country and his people. Get him out of the country while all this stuff is flying around, so he doesn't have to answer to this...

The only good thing about all of this is that there is definitely something shaking up....our RV? Who knows.   BTW...I always enjoy your posts. You have great common sense

ANALYSIS OF MICHIGANDER, 23 OCTOBER



6:04 PM [michigander0131] you have got to like the dictator in iraq

6:06 PM [michigander0131] Financial source: the dismissal of Shabibi destroyed citizens' confidence in the central bank and banks The time on Tuesday, October 23, 1 Baghdad / Orr News A source from within the Iraqi Central Bank that the recent crisis, which hit the bank, cast a shadow on credit conditions and bank deposits and transactions and the level of customer confidence in banks which led to the civil money withdrawals by depositors after the bank liquidity eligibility.

The source pointed out that "the crisis will be reflected effects in the near future which will see the loss of some private banks, which will create financial problems affecting the molecules important local economy," explaining that the fear among depositors and clients of private banks grew with all the news published by the media, and suggests where to financial corruption and a long administrative operations of those banks with the knowledge of the Iraqi Central and coverage and the involvement of those banks in financial corruption operations by a central bank auction of dollars.
  The source pointed out that "the covert operations are to finance companies and individuals speculating currency through funds of those banks which customer deposits which are used in buying and selling at auction central," noting that "profits up large proportions than ratios that may generate benefits of deposit operations investment funds bank according roads.

source confirmed that there is a future financial crisis manipulation and people rushing day to withdraw their money from private banks, a sign is economically healthy.

6:08 PM [michigander0131] Tahrir squares - 10/23/2012 - BAGHDAD - "arenas of liberation" of Ahmed al-Lami Student coalition "rule of law", led by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to work on bringing Iraqi Central Bank Governor Shabibi and "wanted by the Iraqi judiciary."

Haitham al-Jubouri The MP for the "state of law" Haitham al-Jubouri said the Foreign Ministry to do its part diplomat to re-defendants wanted to eliminate from the states who are in, stressing that the "reasons the increasing phenomenon of financial and administrative corruption, the ability of corrupt officials to escape from the Iraqi judiciary, through recourse to Other refuses to hand them over to the government. "

Jubouri said "the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, in turn pressure on all countries that harbor wanted by the Iraqi judiciary, including Shabibi, which has become a modern time, in addition to that there will be real cooperation with the International Court of Justice to catch these people."

It is known that the jurisdiction "of the International Court of Justice" is to settle disputes between nations

6:08 PM [michigander0131] so malliki is reaching out to have shabbs returned by force to iraq

6:08 PM [waynoiam1] michigander0131 whats up

6:08 PM [guardian] michigander0131 do you think that will happen

6:09 PM [michigander0131] Updated Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:05 am TWN, By Prashant Rao, AFP BAGHDAD -- The targeting of Iraq's well-respected central bank chief appears to be a move by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to consolidate power and sends a bad message to international investors, experts and diplomats say.

Sinan al-Shabibi was last week replaced as governor of the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) while he was overseas, and arrest by Coupon Companion">warrants have since been issued for him and other bank officials over allegations of currency manipulation.

6:09 PM [michigander0131] waynoiam1 hello

6:10 PM [michigander0131] guardian no sure im thinking that the us and other countrys will protect him they are now coming out in droves to protest malliki and his move on cbi

6:11 PM [guardian] michigander0131 I would hope so. I have not been around much lately so have not seen everything, but I thought a judge recended the arrest warrent for Shabibi

6:11 PM [michigander0131] Strategic objective required to change its currency is to raise the value of October 22, 2012, The question is that the strategic objective of the decision makers is to restore the value of the Iraqi dinar to normal, which was equal to three dollars or Iraqi dinar will remain in its infancy at its current value?

How long does it take and financial shocks to achieve that goal? Does money men can and economy make up for the loss suffered by the financial community as a result of the change at the time and how? We hope the power of our currency and our economy, and Jaza God working in this sector is good

6:12 PM [michigander0131] guardian yes but that means absolutly nothing when malliki is the final say

6:12 PM [guardian] michigander0131 true and it looks like he is truly on his way to becoming a dictator too

6:13 PM [Rebel13] hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm might be time for him to be outed

6:13 PM [michigander0131] guardian hes already there

6:13 PM [guardian] michigander0131 yes, I agree--just not official yet

6:13 PM [waynoiam1] we just need someone to change the rate! Wasn't he appointed by the US?

6:14 PM [guardian] waynoiam1 yep. I vote you go over there and see if you can get the job done

6:14 PM [guardian] waynoiam1 no, he wasn't appointed by the US. He lost the election but got the judges to makes some rules in his favor to steal the position

6:14 PM [waynoiam1] need some serious security

6:15 PM [michigander0131] Obama administration rejects a new request to the Iraqi government on the cessation of the activities of oil company Exxon Mobil U.S. in the Kurdistan region of Iraq October 23, 2012 BAGHDAD - Eastern October 23: Administration has refused U.S. President Barack Obama a new request made by the Iraqi government on the cessation of the activities of the company "Exxon Mobil" U.S. oil in the Kurdistan region of Iraq.

U.S. official said to Reuters, the Obama administration reaffirmed the Iraqi government that it can not be to interfere in this matter because it relates to the independence and freedom of Exxon Mobil and other oil companies in the United States, as they can not push too much on Exxon Mobil because decisions of this company take on the interests of its shareholders. justified the Iraqi government request halt Exxon Mobil Iraq's Kurdistan region

6:15 PM [guardian] well, I am going back to work before the witch catches me playing. Talk to you all later

6:15 PM [michigander0131] guardian yes exactly

6:17 PM [michigander0131] UN envoy to Iraq Martin Kobler expresses concern of the international organization and concerns of the actions taken against the Central Bank of Iraq, which may affect the independence October 23, 2012 BAGHDAD - Eastern October 23: through UN special envoy to Iraq, "Martin Kobler" concern the United Nations and the fears of the measures taken against the Iraqi Central Bank, which could affect the independence as a planning monetary policy in the country. Said Kuebler in a statement to the Oriental News , said the United Nations is closely monitoring and through its mission in Iraq, the actions taken against the Central Bank of Iraq, stressing the necessity of maintaining the independence of this body and all independent bodies in the country and the most important of the Iraqi Electoral Commission and the Human Rights Commission

6:17 PM [michigander0131] so here the UN is starting to way in on mallikis move to take over cbi

6:19 PM [waynoiam1] would be nice to really know who or what is holding back the RV

6:20 PM [michigander0131] waynoiam1 WELL IMO its all in iraqs hands and have always believed that//absolutly nothing to show me any different

6:21 PM [Cjswest] Thanks michogander0131

6:21 PM [waynoiam1] Well who is Iraq and who makes that call

6:22 PM [michigander0131] well shabbs but now who knows ] imf un and world bank all have said go ahead and do it /but he wouldnt because of malliki IMO

6:22 PM [Cjswest] Did you hear fedresv taken over by ust?

6:22 PM [garyfla99] michigander0131 thank you for the posts

6:23 PM [michigander0131] Cjswest no where is that article

6:23 PM [michigander0131] you are all welcome just all my opinion on what i have researched for 2 and half years

6:24 PM [Cjswest] was a conf call. Tman on recaps

6:24 PM [michigander0131] Cjswest oh neaver mind  

6:25 PM [Cjswest] maybe    is on way  

6:26 PM [Cjswest]    gary

6:26 PM [michigander0131] i dought it /

6:28 PM [michigander0131] 10/15/2012 (Reuters) -15/10/2012 Director-General warned of the International Monetary Fund Christine Lagarde, yesterday, the risk of getting "excessive growth" threatens the emerging economies, because of the work being done by central banks in the United States or Europe to combat the debt crisis raises concern several countries, including Brazil.

This comes at a time when said Nemat Shafik, Deputy Director General of the IMF, that the next six months will be crucial to the governments take action. The Fund has developed a list of what should be done to Member States and the same over the next six months--

6:28 PM [Cjswest] so any tk juice?  

6:28 PM [michigander0131] this is a great article to read /tells what and what they can not do to currencys and countrys

6:29 PM [Cjswest] Looking good

6:30 PM [michigander0131] Germany will hold elections next year while the United States will see the presidential elections and changes will take place in the Chinese leadership - occur once every ten years - after weeks. The European Parliament elections will be held in June 2014.

6:33 PM [michigander0131] yes ive got to hit it also /take care get family/  

6:35 PM [garyfla99] michigander0131 bye thks again

It is estimated by 2015 the Yuan/Renminbi will be a currency traded fully and internationally.

It is estimated by 2015 the Yuan/Renminbi will be a currency traded fully and internationally. 



With all the unlimited printing of the dollar 2015 might come faster.

Portions: 

A "renminbi bloc" has been formed in East Asia, as nations in the region abandon the US dollar and peg their currency to the Chinese yuan — a major signal of China's successful bid to internationalize its currency, a research report has said.

And now seven out of 10 economies in the region — including South Korea, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand — track the renminbi more closely than they do the US dollar. Only three economies in the group — Hong Kong, Vietnam, and Mongolia — still have currencies following the dollar more closely than the renminbi, said the report, posted on the institute's website.

Wang Jianhui, chief economist with Southwest Securities Co Ltd, agreed. "Investors are looking for new reserve currencies at a time when both the dollar and euro are under pressure. This is a good opportunity for the yuan," he said.

The Royal Bank of Scotland predicted in a report on Monday that renminbi will become a fully convertible currency in 2015.

Cross-border trade settled in renminbi will triple to 6.5 trillion yuan ($1.03 trillion) within three years as relations with the world's second-largest economy grow, Royal Bank of Scotland Group PLC was quoted as saying by Bloomberg on Oct 9.

Settlements will grow 12 to 20 percent this year, reaching $1.03 trillion in two years, up from $330.8 billion in 2011, said Janet Ming, head of the China desk for RBS in Europe, Middle East and Africa.

In fact, trade is also propelling the rise of the renminbi outside East Asia. The currencies of India, Chile, Israel, South Africa and Turkey all now follow the renminbi closely, in some cases, more so than the dollar. The renminbi would be more attractive if the country could further liberalize its financial and currency markets, the report said.

http://www.blacklistednews.com/Asian_Countries_abandon_U.S._dollar_for_Chinese_Yuan/22166/0/0/0/Y/M.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 23 OCTOBER


10-23-2012  Newshound Guru Mailman17   WHEN HE [SHABIBI] RETURNS HE WILL PRESENT THE PAPERWORK ON MALIKI OF WHAT HE HAS BEEN HOLDING ON TO FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT.   MALIKI COULD HAVE PLAYED THIS TRUMP CARD ANYTIME A YEAR AGO WHEN HE TRIED TO TAKE OVER .  WHY NOW, WHY DID MALIKI KNOWINGLY AND IN FRONT OF ALL CONCERNED  DO WHAT HE DID.  SET DEALS UP WITH RUSSIA KNOWING FULL WELL PARLIAMENT WOULDNT APPROVE IT.  THIS GOES BACK TO IRAN, HE FULL WELL WENT AGAINST CHAP 7 AND ALLOWED IRAN TO SHIP THROUGH HIS COUNTRY. [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

10-23-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Article:  "President Talabani looking with a delegation of the Sadrist movement overall discussions between the political parties and steps to resolve the current crisis"   The Sadrists meeting with Talibani is great news. They have been pretty quiet for a while now. I think things are in high gear – but this has a lot more to do with our own election cycle than any of us know. Bank on it.

10-23-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Article:  "Prince Kanani: the government and the presidency of the parliament govern control of the central bank"   This kind of support for Shabibi from the Prince is very interesting. Keep in mind the IMF installed Dr Shabibi and they will be the ones to approve or disapprove any currency revalue by the interim CBI Governor.

10-23-2012  Intel Guru Delta   There is indication that Shabibi is involved in something illegal.  During the investigation, they did find something about Shabibi.  He is in Switzerland.  He was to come back to defend himself, but I doubt it...he knows that he can't compete with Maliki right now.   Maliki is doing whatever he wants right now.  He knows our president is weak in foreign policy.  All are agreeing with Maliki, even the Supreme Court, they said there is something against Shabibi.  They are not telling the details. We really don't know what is going on behind closed doors, but it seems like a serious matter.  One senerio is that he may have been set up, we just don't know.   Shabibi could have revalued the currency a long time ago, he waited too long &  they may have set him up.  For our investment, nothing will delay the plan.  We have to wait for a few days to see what happens.  They know that everything is ready.  Shabibi has said that eveything is ready. 

10-23-2012  Newshound Guru Med    I AM GOING TO SAY THIS, EVERYONE WHO CARES ABOUT THIS INVESTMENT NEEDS TO STEP UP AND PAY ATTENTION TO THE CHANGES.  DOES MALIKI GET CBI AND DOES ABUNGE GET IN--IF SO I WILL HANG AROUND FOR 30 DAYS AFTER THAT I AM HANGING IT UP CUZ IT IS OVER UNLESS PARLIAMENT AND THE UN AND THE U.S. INTERVENE AND TAKE CONTROL.  WE SHOULD KNOW BY NOV 7.

10-23-2012  Newshound Guru Med   IF MALIKI TAKES CONTROL OF CBI BURN YOUR DINAR IT WILL BE ONLY GOOD FOR STARTING A FIRE.  WHY?  CUZ NO ONE WILL FINISH OFF THE INVESTMENTS IN IRAQ,  EXXON WANTS OUT OF IRAQ,  SINCE WHEN DOES AN OIL COMPANY WITH UNLIMITED POTENTIAL  SAY  **** ON YOU.  ALSO THE 2ND LARGEST REVENUE PRODUCING BUSINESS IN IRAQ IS TOURISM...MOSTLY BECAUSE OF CONSTRUCTION AND THE MONEY THAT MANY COMPANIES WERE INVESTING TO BUILD HOTELS AND OTHER TOURIST ATTRACTIONS.   BUT, AN ARTICLE CAME OUT  THAT THE COMPANIES THAT ARE STILL CONSTRUCTING ARE GETTING READY TO CALL IT QUITS AND TAKE THEIR LOSSES AND JUST LEAVE THE PROJECTS AS THEY ARE RIGHT NOW, NOT FINISHED.  THEY SAID THIS WILL HAVE A MAJOR IMPACT ON IRAQS ECONOMY.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

10-23-2012  Intel Guru Frank26    The only way Shabibi will lift the 3 zeroes is if Maliki announces his government. The real reason Maliki want to remove Shabibi is power, he is hungry for power. The GOI can temporarily remove Shabibi but they cannot replace him.  Shabibi can only be replaced by the IMF.  Shabibi is not the blame.  He was in Switzerland & he has documents to prove his innocence.  Will this affect the RV, no.  The media is actually defying Maliki, saying leave Shabibi alone, this is great intel in itself.  Will this slow things down for us. No, everything is still normal, they are still having auctions, etc.  We are slowly seeing these accusations fade away.  Keep you faith in the Iraqi dinar, hold on to your dinar. I have been with you for 4 years.  Nobody knows the rate and nobody knows the date, but we are in the omega of our investment, we are at the end. 

10-23-2012  Newshound Guru Med      IF HE SHOULD BE EXONERATED DOES SHABIBI STAY OR DOES HE SAY **** YOU.   WE THINK HE WOULD STAY...FINISH WHAT HE STARTED.   IF MALIKI WINS HERE AGAINST SHABIBI THEN NO ONE IS SAFE IN IRAQ, NO ONE.  RIGHT NOW I CANT EVEN MAKE A GUESS ON WHAT TO EXPECT ON THE DINAR UNTIL I KNOW FIRST WHAT IS THE OUTCOME OF THE CHARGES

DELTA ,GAMBLER, YOTA, SOCALDINAR, RODAN,BUTIFLDRM, KING BEAN & 4APROFIT POST, 23 OCTOBER

Delta: There is indication that Shabibi is involved in something illegal. During the investigation, they did find something about Shabibi. He is in Switzerland. He was to come back to defend himself, but I doubt it. He knows that he can't compete with Maliki right now. Maliki is doing whatever he wants right now. He knows our president is weak in foreign policy. All are agreeing with Maliki, even the Supreme Court, they said there is something against Shabibi. They are not telling the details. We really don't know what is going on behind closed doors, but it seems like a serious matter. One scenario is that he may have been set up, we just don't know. Shabibi could have revalued the currency a long time ago, he waited too long & they may have set him up. For our investment, nothing will delay the plan. We have to wait for a few days to see what happens. They know that everything is ready. Shabibi has said that everything is ready.

Gambler1: If we are to believe more than one currency will RV--then that includes the Chinese Yuan. The concept is that some countries’ currencies do not really reflect their intrinsic value. One of those is China. So, politicians saying China holds the value of its Yuan down is exactly what we as investors in dong and dinar have been saying--that these currencies have to rise in value to truly reflect the assets and potential wealth of those countries. So, hearing that from the politicians last night fits right into our thinking.


Yota691: Urgent .. security forces surrounded the central bank and arrested a group of employees

T {Baghdad: Euphrates News} security forces cordoned off on Tuesday the Iraqi Central Bank building and arrested a group of employees arrest warrants issued against them.

A security source said told {Euphrates News} that "security forces carried the day surrounded the Iraqi Central Bank and barred entry and exit from it and arrested a group of employees that sentenced arrest warrants by the Iraqi judiciary," adding that "the arrest warrants issued against {36} employees working in the Central Bank of Iraq after the charge of corruption. "

The Cabinet had voted a few days ago to exempt Central Bank Governor Sinan al-Shabibi from office and ask Abdul Basit Turki to manage the central bank to further notice, after the news that indicated the presence of suspicions of corruption in the work of the central bank and private sales dollar. Ended http://www.alforatne...24-40&Itemid=56

SocalDinar:
  Well here we go Yota  Either these employees are dirty or Turki is cleaning house. I just don't think Shabibi will come back from Switzerland The only good thing is that the redenomination is no longer in the news.
RodandStaff:  This makes the whole thing kinda hit home... it appears laws have been broken, and they are going after them for it. Like Adam said... this ain't a bad thing. If indeed Shabb's was one of the blockages (esp. if he had a good thing going for himself by not RVing) then this could be just what the RV Dr. ordered to get this thing going. Let's hope! Now boyz... it's time, it's past time... so git-r-dun already!!!   Thanks for the post Yota!!!   Come On RV Baby!!!

Butifldrm:
  I went to bed thinking last night, Something's not right with all of this. Why wouldn't Maliki have waited until Shabibi returned home to Baghdad to issue these warrants, if in case Shabs was manipulating the currency.

WE all ready know the integrity commision came out yesterday and said they found no evidence of wrong doing from Shabibi. Supposedly, Selah was one of the employees charged, then Maliki comes out with news that he could be a possible candidate to replace Shabibi.

 I know I'll probably get bashed for this, but I'm thinking this whole scenario is a ruse. There is just too much conflicting news coming out of Iraq. What better way to disway speculation, than to discredit, then set up a take down scenario on the CBI. Could not the security forces surrounding the CBI be there for security and not arrests. Maybe, like gregp said, "We gonna see a RV" Posted Image JMO

King Bean:  So much conflicting information, yet Shabs says he will return after the holiday to present his case. Now if he is guilty, why even CONTEMPLATE doing this? I just hope he has dirt on Maliki or that these guys, the fab 5, grow SOME...and dump that thug.

So today, with all the problems...$117 billion gone missing in ministry of finance, bombers running around loose and all their other issues...they focus on surrounding a bank to corral a group of radical counter clerks. Hope they sent in some tanks...you know how nasty those CLERKS can get.

 4aprofit:
  With all of the previous corruption over there, are we just now seeing someone move on any of this...if part of, or any of it is even true?....We have seen over the years where I believe it was even Maliki's brother I think, that was one of the culprits, that was caught smuggling millions of dollars of dinars across Iraq's borders, as well as other influential politicians and their relatives..

.(and I dont recall them doing anything to any of these guys, and this stuff has been going on steadily for years now, and the CBI had to have known about it, as well as the politicians, as the bulk of the dinars, especially in these amounts, most assuredly, would have come from or through the CBI, either directly or indirectly, as per the "street", there just is'nt this type cash normally available in these huge amounts)...

this should tell us that the currency will eventually be valuable, if not, why not just hide it there in Iraq somewhere...of course, if it ends up RV'ing and it can be cashed-in out-of-country for more of a windfall, then there you have it!...

(why would any of these guys risk a possible imprisonment, or even other possible penalties, by smuggling Dinars out of Iraq, when they could just hang on to it right there at home, or are they scared that once it revalues, that they possibly wont be able to get out of country with it as easy?)...

We know they have had crackdowns on how much Dinar can leave the country, even via the airports now in Iraq...

I think all of the things going on are possibly "smokescreens"...and hey, even if they are not, at least someone hemorrhoids may get moved over there!...lol...

P.S. A friend of mine at one time said he talked to a former IMF guy, he said that about the time that this thing goes down, that you will literally want to throw your dinars away or burn them, as the misinformation and smokescreens will be so bad that it will actually look like nothing could ever happen good over there....so with all that is going on...I like it!...For what it's worth...

ANALYSIS OF MAILMAN, PART 1, 23 OCTOBER



mailman17 (11:50:48):   MORNING   WHY SO GLUM?  I'M NOT
    Brewbaby: Maliki surrounded CBI and arrested 36 employees

    mailman17:       SAW THAT    STILL UP BEAT
    Brewbaby: mm17 how can you be?

    mailman17:   CAN I ASK A QUESTION    GONNA TELL YA....LOL
    Brewbaby: how is it that no one is doing anything about this?

    mailman17:   I KNOW    BUT DO YOU...LOL
    Brewbaby: ok

    mailman17: LETS DO THIS IN STEPS
    Brewbaby: are they letting him hang himself, but at the expense of others

    mailman17: FIRST OFF...NO ONE IS MORE CORRUPT THAN MALIKI
    Brewbaby: agreed
     mailman17:    BINGO...CLOSE  DID ANYONE SEE SHABS BREAK A SWEAT?  EVEN ONE BEAD?    NO

    Brewbaby: no cause no one saw him until yesterday make any kind of noise

    mailman17:   WHEN HE RETURNS    LOL    HE WILL PRESENT THE PAPERWORK ON MALIKI  OF WHAT HE HAS BEEN HOLDING ON TO FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT...

    Brewbaby: but the money will be gone in my opinion

    
mailman17  IMO  NO IT WONT IT WILL STILL BE THERE  BUT LETS TALK ABOUT THAT    THE MONEY  MALIKI COULD HAVE PLAYED THIS TRUMP CARD ANYTIME    A YEAR AGO

    Brewbaby: ok, if M's security forces have surrounded the CBI, and there are no employees left to protect it, then how can he not get his hands on it?

    mailman17:    WHEN HE TRIED TO TAKE OVER    ITS OK BREW    BREATHE

    Brewbaby: I am ok, just trying to figure this out and not succeeding

    mailman17:  WHY NOW    WHY DID MALIKI KNOWINGLY AND IN FRONT OF ALL CONCERNED
    Brewbaby: I am listening

    mailman17: DO WHAT HE DID
    Brewbaby: you tell me, because it makes no sense

    mailman17: SET DEALS UP WITH RUSSIA KNOWING FULL WELL PARLIMENT WOULDNT APPROVE IT

    pballone: good ?
    Brewbaby: granted Shabs was out of country, parliament is on vaca again, so why

    mailman17:    THIS GOES BACK TO IRAN     HE FULL WELL WENT AGAINST CHAP 7 AND ALLOWED IRAN TO SHIP THROUGH HIS COUNTRY
    Brewbaby: maybe the weapons are going to syria

    mailman17:    THE UN KNOWS THIS    THEY WERE    THEY HAVE THE PROOF    BUT WHY NOT ACT     THEY COULD    RIGHT    USUALLY WHEN A RAT GETS CAUGHT     HE UNKNOWINGLY LETS OUT THROUGH DESPERATION    THINGS THAT WOULD DAMAGE HIM EVEN MORE    IN OTHER WORDS    HES DUG A HOLE    AND THEY ARE LETTING HIM DIGG DEEPER    WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT     AND THEY ARE SATISFIED

    Brewbaby: but at the expense of others and that is not right

    mailman17:    THEY WILL REMOVE HIM     OTHERS THAT ARE DIRTY DESERVE IT    THOSE THAT ARE NOT WILL BE VINDICATED    SHABS IS THE LATTER     THERE IS CORRUPTION AT THE CBI  ****  THERES CORRUPTION IN OUR OWN GOVT

    Brewbaby: They have watched and watched and watched and have done nothing so far, look at all the arrests and torture, and killings he has had his hand in and the things with Hashemi and now Shabs, why wait so long to do this.

    mailman17:    EVERYTHING SHABS DID    BREW..I KNOW ITS FRUSTRATING    YOUR NOT ALONE

    Brewbaby: Not so much frustrating, as not making sense as to the reasoning

    mailman17:    SHABS FOLLOWED TO THE LETTER....THE PLAN FOR IRAQ AS DETERMINED BY THOSE INVOLVED   THE IMF GAVE HIM THE TOOLS

    Brewbaby: yes I agree

    mailman17:    THROW REASONING OUT THE WINDOW    IT DOESNT APPLY HERE

    Brewbaby: yes, but human nature to preserve those that are suffering because of this idiot

    mailman17:    SHABS HAS NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT    YES I AGREE    BUT    WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING    WHAT WE CAN DO

    Brewbaby: I think they have allowed this to go on too long

    mailman17:     IS TO TRY SO SEE WHY    WHY NOW    WHY IS ALL OF THIS COMING DOWN NOW    GOTTA BE A REASON

    Brewbaby: he has proven he is a dictator just as bad if not worse than Sadaam, but still nothing has been doen

    mailman17:   YES HE HAS    YET HE REMAINS    AGAIN    WHY?    HE WILL BE DEALT WITH    BUT THEY ALSO MUST UNCOVER AS MUCH AS THEY CAN    IN OTHER WORDS    HE WILL DIG HIMSELF DEEPER DAY BY DAY     WHY?

    Brewbaby: We have been saying that for awhile now, but still he gets away with murder literally

    mailman17:    CAUSE HES IN A HURRY    AGAIN...THOSE FACTS WILL BE BROUGHT UP    WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT   THEY WANT THOSE UNDER HIM AS WELL    I KNOW IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE    AND IT DOESNT

    Brewbaby: they might as well arrest all of the SOL, cause they are just as guilty for letting him do what he has done

    mailman17:    BUT THIS IS BIGGER THAN WE CAN IMAGINE    AGAIN...I AGREE WITH YOU    BUT THATS NOT OUR CALL    IF YOU WERE SHABS

    Brewbaby: the NA and Alawi, Sadr, etc. None of them have the b*lls to deal with him

    mailman17:    WOULD YOU RV NOW?    AND GIVE MALIKI AND WHOMEVER IS ASSOCIATED WITH    A TRILLION DINAR WORTH A TRILLION DOLLARS?    OR WOULD YOU HOPE THAT THE GOI WOULD GET MALIKI    GO AFTER HIM    NAIL HIM

    Brewbaby: I know Shabs was trying to get the biulk of hte bigt bills off the streets, and he was stopping the corruption and money laundering, but this has got to stop somewhere.

    mailman17:    YES YOU WOULD    IT WILL    LETS SAY SHABS LETS OUT INFO    THAT STATES HES EITHER LOPPING....OR COMING OUT LOW...    NOW    ADD TO THAT    MALIKI KNOWING HIS TIME IS SHORT...THINK CHAP 7 VIOLATIONS    WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU WERE MALIKI

    Brewbaby: he wants to get as much as he can before leaving the country

    mailman17:    BINGO    HE WANTS THE RV    NOW

    Brewbaby: that is why I am worried he will get the reserves

    mailman17:   ON HIS TERMS    HE WONT     TRUST ME ON THIS ONE

    Brewbaby: ok, I just need this to be over, so I can move to MT

    mailman17: YOU MEAN WYOMING

    Brewbaby: before this old body can't move anymore

    mailman17:    WE BOTH CANT LIVE THERE...YOUR A WORRYWART...    LOL

    Brewbaby: nope, you know I have always said MT, who else is going to vote for you

    mailman17: TRUE

    cdjsilver51: Please go on with your scenario Mailman

    Brewbaby: nope not a worry wart, just practical and this ain't practical anymore

    mailman17: THE MAIN THING I AM REALLY TRYING TO EMPHASIZE IS THIS IS NOT AS BAD AS IT LOOKS

    cdjsilver51: we're here to listen to you

    mailman17:    YES...IT LOOKS BAD...NOW        BUT HONESTLY....THERES NO WAY WE WOULD LET THIS ESCALATE

    Brewbaby: ok ?

    mailman17:    UNLESS WE KNEW THE EVENTUAL OUTCOME    THE OTHER THING TO THINK ABOUT IS THIS    ITS NOT A SECRET ANYMORE AS TO MALIKIS INTENTIONS TO RV    YES?    AND HES USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE

    Brewbaby: yes

    mailman17: DONT YOU THINK THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ ARENT GETTING WIND OF THIS?

    Brewbaby: Can he RV at the rate he wants without the approval of the IMF?

    mailman17:    WHEN THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE    CORRECT

    Aunt Gwennie: Had a TV program on this in Iraq

    mailman17: AGAIN...THIS IS A DESPERATE MAN WHO DOESNT KNOW THIS PARTICULAR PLAYBOOK

    superglue: If i get this right.. does Maliki and Shab both wants RV now?

    mailman17: DO YOU WANT TO BE SHABS WHEN THIS ALL CLEARS UP AND LOOK OUT THE WINDOW AND SEE A MOB WAITING FOR WHAT THEY ALREADY KNEW WAS COMING>

    GOMER PYLE: can i ask a queston

    mailman17:    MALIKI DOES    SHABS DOESNT

    Brewbaby: then he can RV in country like what Sadaam did and not be international, take his ill gotten gains from the coffers in CBI and leave without looking back and then we could be left out

    mailman17:    BUT WILL WHEN MALIKI IS GONE    BREW...CHAP 7

    GOMER PYLE: hi mailman

    mailman17: HEY

    GOMER PYLE: and brewbaby

    Brewbaby: sorry mm17, but Chapter 7 has not stopped him so far

    GOMER PYLE: can i ask

    mailman17: THEY ARE STILL UNDER SANCTIONS REMEMBER?

    GOMER PYLE: sorry

    Brewbaby: go ahead GOMER

    mailman17: SHOOT GOMER

    GOMER PYLE: i type slow

    mailman17:    HE HAS BENDED THE LAW AND WALKED A MIGHT TIGHT LINE YES    BUT    REMOVING HIM NOW WOULD NOT GET THE CORRUPTION THEY ARE LOOKING FOR    KNOW WHAT I MEAN

    TataTime: I sure hope you are right, MM17. It seems like M has been free to do whatever he wants since he got into office...and especially after our troops left. I fear a kangeroo court.

    GOMER PYLE: did all the smear tactics by maliki against shabibi and all the we need to wait for the delete of the zeros

    mailman17:    AGAIN...LET HIM BE DESPERATE AND LET LOOSE MORE    TATA...YES...IT DOES SEEM THAT WAY

    GOMER PYLE: was that just smoke

    Brewbaby: he has gotten away with so much, it just seems he will get away with this, becaue no one is doing anything

    GOMER PYLE:    so that shabibi could be kicked out    and then maliki take the rv for himself

    mailman17:    THAT IS WHAT MALIKI THINKS WILL HAPPEN    AGAIN...DICTATOR MENTATLITY    MOST OFTEN ALTHOUGH SEEMING SMART AND CUNNING    EVENTUALLY CUTS HIS OWN THROAT IN THE END    AND THATS WHAT THEY ARE LETTING HIM DO

    GOMER PYLE: ty very much mr mailman

    mailman17: HE IS STILL LIKED AS WELL...SO CIVIL UNREST MUST BE HELD DOWN AS WELL

    GOMER PYLE: i now have to go and finish carving pumpkins with my grandson daniel

    mailman17: YW...JMO

    GOMER PYLE:

    mailman17:    GOOD LUCK    ANYWAY PEEPS...I SEE THIS UNLIKE MOST OF YOU    I SEE THIS AS A POSITIVE    I SEE THIS AS  SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DONE THIS WAY    BUT THE OUTCOME WILL STILL BE OUR RV

    Brewbaby: Do you feel that this could still happen by end of year or are we looking at next July?

    mailman17:    YES BREW...IT IS WRONG                                             YES I DO...JAN1

    TataTime: As I said before, I sure hope you are right

    mailman17       THINK ABOUT TIS    WE HAVE LOST TROOPS

    Brewbaby: I hope it happens before then, so we do not get hit with the higher taxes that go into effect JAn 1

    mailman17:    POURED IN MONEY    INFRASTRUCTURE    HELP BEYOND WHAT WE DO FOR MOST COUNTRIES    DO YOU REALLY THINK WE ARE GONNA LET THIS GO DOWN BY MALIKIS TERMS    ***.NO    JUST GOTT PLAY THIS RIGHT...SMART AND CONVINCINGLY

    Superglue: If Shab doesn't want RV and Maliki does, what happens when Maliki is gone? Who will trigger the RV?

    Brewbaby: only problem is if you look at it right now, it appears he is getting away with everything

    mailman17: WE CANNOT MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THIS IS OUR IDEA   IT HAS TO BE ALL IRAQ    AS A WHOLE

    GOMER PYLE: my grandson asked me to ask a favor mr mailman

    mailman17:    BUT THE 13,000 TROOPS THERE WILL BE THERE FOR SUPPORT IF NEEDED    SHOOT GOMER
    GOMER PYLE: can he get your autograph
    mailman17: LOL
    GOMER PYLE: he wants to put it up next to his hero
    TataTime: LOL

    Brewbaby: he has shown his true colors, so we shall wait and see if he really does get his in the end

    GOMER PYLE: med
    mailman17: OUCH
    TataTime: LOL!!!!
    GOMER PYLE: just make it out to daniel

    mailman17: THAT WAS A GOOD ONE GOMER
    GOMER PYLE:    your best friend mailman    and his mom too    sheena    and you might as well add her mom    cindy

ANALYSIS OF MAILMAN, PART 2 , 23 OCTOBER


Brewbaby: mm17, hubby said to tell you he put in a good word for you to the people we know in MT, so it is ok for you to move out there

        stlou: Baghdad (IraqiNews.com) -The Amir of Kuwait Sabah Al-Ahmad Al-Jaber Al-Sabah, signed, on Tuesday, an Amiri decree to agree upon a final financial settlement between Iraq and Kuwait

    mailman17:    THANKS BREW...I WAS WORRIED THERE FOR A MOMENT....
    stlou: kuwaiti airways..
    GOMER PYLE: is it true your faster than a speeding bullet
    stlou: fly a camel

    mailman17: THAT REFERS TO THE AIRLINES DOESNT IT LOU?
    Brewbaby: he said he wanted to make sure you make it out there to cover our backs and we will cover yours......LOL
    stlou:   to the promised land   yes

    mailman17: BREW...YOUR COVERED
    GOMER PYLE: can leap tall buildings with a single bound

     mailman17: FOR SOME ODD REASON...GOMER SEEMS TO BE A LOT LIKE MED IN WAYS...LOL
    Brewbaby : as they say bulletproof
    GOMER PYLE: lol

    mailman17: BAM...GOTCHYA
    GOMER PYLE: got to go
    Brewbaby: I thought so too....lol
    GOMER PYLE: pumpkins calling

    mailman17: TELL TALE...LATER MED
    GOMER PYLE: great job
    Brewbaby: yeah, the pumpkins were a dead give away
    GOMER PYLE: i really enjoyed watching

    mailman17: I AIM TO PLEASE...LOL
    Brewbaby: glad we could make you laugh
    GOMER PYLE: and ty for answering my ?

    mailman17: LET LYDIA DO THE CARVING...
    GOMER PYLE: i was not laughing
    Brewbaby: see Gomer we let others talk....LOL
    GOMER PYLE: i thought it was well done

    mailman17: I KNOW PAL
    Aunt Gwennie: (F)
    GOMER PYLE:    ok bye all    have a great day    bbl
    Brewbaby:    bye GOMER    or is it GOOBER

    mailman17:    TO BE HONEST THOUGH MED...I SEE THIS A WHOLE DIFFERENT THAN ANYONE ELSE....I SEE IT AS A POSITIVE STEP TO OUR GOAL    GOOBER WOULD BE MORE FITTING....LOL

    MED: I ONLY WANT TO WAIT AND SEE
    stlou: and does that make you Barney?
    Brewbaby: mm17 I see it as positive, I just can't see them waiting much longer to do something because of what Maliki is pulling off while no one is around

    MED: WHO IS PUT WHERE
    mailman17: I KNEW IT WAS YOU....KNEW IT A WHILE BACK....LOL

    MED:    AND HOW PARLIAMENT REACTS    LOL
    mailman17: ME TOO

    MED:    ONE ISSUE    AND IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN A FINANCIAL TIMES ARTICLE    THAT I THINK

    mailman17: THE FACT THAT HE HAS ANNOUNCED 4 PEPOLE TO REPLACE IS ASTOUNDING...LOL

    MED: GUARDIAN POSTED IT
    mailman17:    WHO?    OH...

    MED: THEY MADE REFERENCE HOW  A MAN WHO HAS LESS THAN HALF OF PARLIAMENTS MP'S    CAN FORCE ALL THIS CHANGE
    mailman17: MORE LIKE A QUARTER
    MED:    WHY IS PARLIAMENT NOT STOPPING IT    YES
    mailman17: AND YES
    MED: IN THE STATE LAW

    Brewbaby: Why has Nujaifi not said anything, or Talabani, or Sadr about all that is going on and also Allawi?

    mailman17: I SEE THAT TOO
    MED: IT IS TRUE

    mailman17: THAT IS WHY I ALSO SEE BEYOND THIS CRAP    SOMETHINGS BREWING
    Brewbaby: yeah brew is brewing about all of this

    MED:    MY THINKING    BUT WHAT    OK GOT TO RUN    BBL

    mailman17: MINE TOO
    Aunt Gwennie: its hard to write Maliki on a 22 bullet

    mailman17: THERES WAY TO MUCH TO THIS THAN MEETS THE EYE
    Brewbaby: mm17, what do you think is going on

    mailman17:    AND LIKE GOMERMED SAYS...    LOL
    Brewbaby: the beginning of the end finally
    guardian:    Brewbaby does this help? > Urgent .. Supreme Judicial: any proceedings against the al-Maliki will be handled http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...242#post133242

    mailman17:    MALIKI IS JUST A PIECE OF WHAT THEY WANT UNCOVERED    NICE GUARDIAN    THIS IS JUST A TIDBIT OF WHATS COMING MALIKIS WAY

    Aunt Gwennie: he has done everything to keed Iraq down
    guardian: it's a tidbit yes, and a start

    mailman17:    GWENNIE...ANY OTHER COUNTRY...WE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THERE LIKE THE PLAGUE    ASAP    NO QUESTIONS
    Brewbaby: that is a good post guardian, but I wish everyone would file charges against him for no water, no power, no food, no housing, and on and on

    mailman17: THIS HOWEVER
    guardian: i just started to dig, more may be coming
    Aunt Gwennie: yes we would of...but putting up with his BS for so long

    mailman17: IS AND MUST BE DEALT WITH WITH IN A FASHION NOT BEFITTING ANY OTHER COUNTRY
    Brewbaby: every single ministry needs to prove dinar for dinar where they have gone

    mailman17:    AFTER ALL....WE STARTED THIS    THEIR DEOCRATIC WAY OF LIFE
    stlou: and we may just finish it too

    mailman17:    EXACTLY    THAT CHARGE IS PEANUTS COMPARE TO WHAT IS HEADED HIS WAY    AND THAT IS WHY WE SEE A DESPERATE MAN...TRYING ANYTHING TO GET HIS WAY AND DO WHAT HE CAN    RELAX GUYS AND GALS    WE ARE GOOD    JUST AS ALWAYS...BE PATIENT
    Brewbaby: ok, if you say so...................

    mailman17: I WOULDNT SAY THAT IF I DIDNT MEAN IT
    Brewbaby: I know just testing

    mailman17:    AND THAT COMES FROM LOOKING AT EVERY SINGLE THING AVAILABLE    I KNOW    AND LOOKING AT THE WHOLE PICTURE AND JUST NOT THE SIGNATURE...LOL

    chicagopoet: hey mm17, go bears! awesome game last night! that su guy is an animal trying to hurt people

    mailman17:    I UNFORTUNATELY HAVE THE KNACK AT LOOKING AT THINGS IN A PERSPECTIVE NOT MANY SHARE    YES IT WAS    CLEAN HIT THOUGH    TRUST ME...I GASPED AND WAS LOOKING AT THE SEASON ENDING...LOL

    chicagopoet: yea i thought he was going to rip cutlers finger off

    mailman17:    OK...I SURE HOPE I HAVE QUELLED ANYONES THOUGHTS THAT WE WERE DEADLOCKED    CAUSE WE ARE NOT    WE ARE IN THE THICK OF IT    THE MEATIEST PART OF THIS INVESTMENT    THE ILLUSION HAS BEGUN    BUT REMEMBER

    Aunt Gwennie: the DEADLOCKED I want to see is someone putting it on Maliki

    mailman17:    THAT IS ALL IT IS...A MAGIC TRICK...NOTHING MORE    GWENNIE..HE WILL GET HIS

    Aunt Gwennie: I AM READY

    mailman17: I KNOW YOU ARE...LOL
    jesse888: I am with AG

    mailman17:    I HATE TO SOUND REPETIVE    BUT
    Brewbaby: mee toooo!

    mailman17:    PLEASE REMEMBER ALL YOU HAVE READ ON THIS FORUM    EVERY DETAIL    EVRY STATEMENT    ESPECIALLY BY SHABS    GOING BACK YEAR BY YEAR    THINK OF INVESTMENT    INFRASTRUCTURE    AND YES...CORRUPTION    

CORRUPTION MUST BE NIPPED IN THE BUD    THINK OF IT THIS WAY    MALIKI IS A TROUT    AND WAHT BETTER WAY TO CATCH A TROUT THAN TO HANG A BIG FAT WORM OUT FOR HIM    WELL    HE BIT

    NOW ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS REEL HIM IN   THE REELING IS WHERE WE ARE NOW    AND REELING CAN TAKE TIME SOMETIMES    BUT YOU EVENTUALLY WILL GET HIM IN THE BOAT    AND THEN    YOU CAN BEAT THE ****  OUT OF HIM

    Brewbaby: BAM!

    mailman17:    ME?...I JUST WANN POKE HIS EYES OUT...    MED?...HE WOULD EAT HIM....LOL    YOOPERS DO THAT

    Aunt Gwennie: make him a target

    Brewbaby: I want to put my foot up his arse with size 16 boots

    mailman17: HE ALWAYS WAS THE TARGET

    Aunt Gwennie: some one need to take him out years ago

    mailman17:    BUT LIKE ANY INVESTIGATION LIKE THAT...YOU GOOTA LET IT PLAY OUT AND LET THE EVIDENCE PILE UP

    CANT JUMP RIGHT AWAY

    chicagopoet: cement shoes then thro him back in

    mailman17:    I WOULDNT DO THAT TO THE FISH...LOL    CARP WOULDNT EVEN FEED OFF THAT...LOL    AND THEY EAT EVERYTHING

    ANYONE THINK IT ODD THAT JAFARRI TOLD THE BLOCKS THAT HE WOULD GRATEFULLY TAKE OVER AS INTERIM PM?    WHY WOULD HE SAY THAT

    WE ALREADY KNOW HIS STAND...AND ITS ALL GOOD    FOOD FOR THOUGHT

    DOES ANYONE THINK IT ODD THAT THE LIST BROUGHT OUT OF CORRUPT OFFICIALS HAS EVERYONES NAME ON IT THAT GOES AGAINST MALIKIS WISHES?    AGAIN    FOOD FOR THOUGHT    DEPERATE MAN

    Aunt Gwennie: I do not know much about JAFARRI

    mailman17:    MAKING DESPERATE MOVES    NA HEAD    OLD NEWS    BUT    AGAIN...SOMETHING YOU MUST REMEMBER AS A LOT OF IT PERTAINS TO WHERE WE SIT RIGHT NOW    NUJAFI, TALABANI, BARZANI...ECT...SILENT...WHY?    SADR MAKING A LITTLE NOISE    NO BIGGIE

    BUT THIS IS WHAT I LOOK AT    THE WHOLE PICTURE    NOT JUST A FRAGMENT    ** ...IF I LOOKED AT FRAGMENTS....I WOULD HAVE TORN OUT ALL MY HAIR....LOL    EVEN THE STUFF ON THE SIDES...LOL

    mailman17:    I USED TO LOOK LIKE GEORGE CLOONEY WHEN I STARTED IN THIS...I NO LOKK LIKE HOMER SIMPSON...LOL    NOW LOOK    DID I MENTION TO CASH IN WITH THE BANKS AND STAY AWAY FROM ANYONE ELSE?
    Aunt Gwennie: yes stay away from DT

    mailman17:    NO NAMES    LOL    BUT YOU GUYS KNOW WHO I MEAN...(6)
    Aunt Gwennie: I do

    mailman17:    OK...GONNA RUN...I HOPE I HAVE CALMED YOU GUYS DOWN CONCERNING THIS    AT LEAST A LITTLE    I THINK WE STAND REAL GOOD    AND I THINK WE STILL STAND FOR JAN 1

    chicagopoet: thanks, ciao

    mailman17:    YW    LATER    OR BEFORE    IF YOU HAD A NOOSE AROUND YOUR NECK.....WHY WOULD YOU SQUIRM TO MAKE IT TIGHTER?   THAT IS MALIKI

    (thank you’s)

    mailman17:    THERE IS NO ARROW COMING TO CUT THAT ROPE    HE WILL HANG    AND HE KNOWS IT    YW    ROBIN HOOD WOULDNT ASSOCIATE HIMSELF WITH THELIKES OF MALIKI    ACTUALLY...GOOD REFERENCE...MALIKI IS JOHN    THINK OF IT THAT WAY    PRINCE JOHN...THE MOST CORRUPT MAN IN SHERWOOD FOREST    AND THE KINGDOME OF IRAQ WILL SOON BE CORRECTED     ALTHOUGH...THE PUDGY MONK DOES REMIND ME OF MED