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Monday, October 8, 2012

INDIVIDUALS AND CORPS WITH MORE THAN 100 MIL DINAR CASHING OUT THROUGH PRIVATE BANKING, 8 OCTOBER

[TERRYK] BACK FOR A MOMENT
[TERRYK] HEY GWC1
[TERRYK] HEY HEART
[TERRYK] TONI
[TERRYK] TINA
[TERRYK] KAYCEE
[TERRYK] NANO
[TERRYK] HEY ROCKETMAN
[TERRYK] HEY GWC1
[TERRYK] HEY SIS
[tina]    I got some info from a contact 
[tina] can i post it
[TERRYK] SURE
[tina] Just spoke to a source with an internal Wells contact, he confirms individuals and corps with more than 100 mil dinar cashing out through private banking, and cant get a rate. :( 
[TERRYK] HEY LYNN
[TERRYK] WOW TINA
[TERRYK] GREAT NEWS 
[tina]    what do you think?
[TERRYK] GOOD SOURCE
[tina] yes I have good sources    
[TERRYK] SIS HAVE YOU HEARD THE SAME THING
[Agent 007]    kinda similar
[[TERRYK] I WILL BE BACK IN A BIT
[TERRYK] OK NO OTHER NEWS TONIGHT
[TERRYK] GOD BLESS U ALL
[TERRYK] GOT A HEADACHE
[TERRYK] NIGHT ALL

ANALYSIS OF MICHIGANDER , 8 OCTOBER



7;20 PM [nano36] Wizards13 yup, that is true.
7:21 PM [michigander0131] i agree you have to move on and get on with life//fact is NO ONE can tell when this will happen
7:22 PM [bjj (Barb)] michigander0131 , hello there!!  
7:22 PM [nano36] I don't like it, but I believe you are right  

7:23 PM [bjj (Barb)] michigander0131 , I agree with you but some of us are not able to work or are retired so we just have to get hobbies or find other things to occupy our time.  Winters are bad for me cause I can't get outside and garden like I like.

7:24 PM [michigander0131] bjj (Barb) hello everyone  that is true /must find something other then dwelling on this
   
7:25 PM [bjj (Barb)] michigander0131 , yep. My cup is still over half full but I know it will happen when it happens and not before,  

7:25 PM [michigander0131] it was said that it is an investment and also a long term investment//untill iraq can get their country in order their will be no release of ch 7 or currency change //IMO
  7:25 PM [bjj (Barb)] nano36 , I think a lot of the time they log in and look for something then leave and forget to log out.

7:26 PM [bjj (Barb)] Yep we invested in it not knowing when it would happen.

7:27 PM [michigander0131] well people just sit here hoping to see some bit of positive news //but unfortunantly there really isnt any//just same ol same ol

    7:27 PM [nano36] bjj (Barb) I agree, log in and forget about it

    7:28 PM [michigander0131] Central likely rebound soon dinar CBI likely improve the Iraqi dinar against foreign currency in the near future. The deputy governor appearance of Dr. Mohammed Saleh, said that the development of the Iraqi dinar began improving in front of the international currency difficult and will improve more during the next few as a result of increased oil production http://translate.google. ··· QQ7gEwBg –

7:30 PM [michigander0131] BAGHDAD - A follow-up: Stressed the economic expert  Shammari, the need to apply the project to delete the three zeroes from the currency because it hurt to serve the citizen and the national currency by reducing the monetary blocs with large groups in the local market.

Al-Shammari said: The implementation of the project restructuring of the Iraqi currency after deleting three zeros which is necessary for it would serve the citizen and the national economy, considering that large groups will turn into a thousand small units, which will facilitate transactions in the market and accounts for government departments. He added: that the project will provide additional financial resources of the country through printed Coins (quarter dinars and a half dinars dinar) where the life span of these categories (25) year, while paper-old does not exceed three months for it's fast handling and damage.

7:31 PM [michigander0131] It seems plain as day to me... and EXCITING as all get out! A" large group " turning into a "thousand small units".. means that a single 25,000 note ( large group) will turn into a thousand 25 dinar notes ( thousand small units) - a 1,000 note will become one thousand small units of one dinar.. This CLEARLY INDICATES NO LOP!

7:32 PM [michigander0131] thats all i got for today//they will continue to move ahead at their own speed//

7:34 PM [michigander0131] the closer we get to end of year the more likely they will not put out the lower denoms //they have stated over and over and over that it must be done in the beginning of a fiscal year with the new budget//lets hope they get it done in the next month or so

The process needs to start at the start of the year, 8 OCTOBER


The process needs to start at the start of the year


Fresh] Okay I’m going to kick off the Round Table Chat and run through some things I’d like to talk about and then I’ll open the floor up for ya’ll to bring in some more stuff! Millionday will be here for News Tonight at 6:30 EST! Let’s Roll…
[Fresh] Central Bank decides to change the timing of the implementation of the restructuring of the Iraqi currency project and the deletion of zeros Alsumaria News / Baghdad Iraqi Central Bank, Sunday, timing adjustment starting project structuring the Iraqi currency and delete the zeros of them, stressing that it completed the bulk of the proceedings, among that a new currency in circulation must be the beginning of the calendar year where it is determined to start implementation, not through it. The bank said in a statement issued today, and received “Alsumaria News”, a copy of which, “The CBI was briefed on the frequency of reports indicating postpone the implementation of the project restructure the Iraqi currency and deleting three zeros of them,” stressing that “the requirements of coordination and cooperation between us and the the legislative and executive branches led to modify the timing of the start of implementation. ”
Fresh] The bank said that “this project is of vital importance to our country, our economy and society,” adding that he “completed the bulk of the action on the implementation of the project.” And the bank on the need to “be the new currency in circulation at the completion print must be the beginning of the calendar year where it has been determined start and not during the implementation.” The Parliamentary Finance Committee suggested, on August 9, 2012, on the San Attorney Haitham al-Jubouri be direct delete zeros and the currency exchange during the month of July of next year, and as shown, the central bank has removed all fears, it confirmed that the government will support this project after providing Baijayate and disadvantages.
[Fresh] So let’s analyze this…
[Fresh] Notice how they stress – as we’ve seen a lot in the past – that the process needs to start at the start of the year / January…
[Fresh] but then a few sentences later you get this out of place… doesn’t make sense… but we see this creep up a lot…
[Fresh] delete zeros and the currency exchange during the month of July of next year, and as shown, the central bank has removed all fears, it confirmed that the government will support this project after providing Baijayate and disadvantages.
[Fresh] so boom right there they say they have to do it at the beginning of the year and then in the next breath say “July 2013″… clearly they aren’t telling us the real plan here…
[clay] nope
[DT N AZ] There is so much conflicting information coming out that it is very difficult to believe what has been disiminated.
[Fresh] What do ya’ll think? Smoke?
[clay] Fresh yes
[Mrs. Beans and Rice] Yes i do
[clay] dt n az agree
[juban] absolutely
[cornsnake64] Fresh so deleting zeros is removing big denoms from circulation. our country did the same thing with 10k 5k notes ect.
[clay] cornsnake64 right
[suejo] AGREE
[Mrs. Beans and Rice] cornsnake64 — YES
[Fresh] I tend to agree and my thoughts are that these articles – and the language we see repeated in them – have for the most part been recycled and pieced together over the last months and years… they sample bits and pieces from each one and we see this time and time again… so…
[cornsnake64] Fresh whats holding back them revaluing the dinar, they would get more for there money it would seem
[Fresh] My take is they are done telling the PUBLIC when this will really happen – which is good. We saw indications in articles earlier this year that they may look to start the process as soon as September 2012 – and then cited January 2013 as an outside window – almost a more logical contingency…
[Fresh] So we do the next logical thing and follow the other pieces of the puzzle that may come together at the same time as the RV… That’s why everyone is following the National Conference.. Why we want to know what is happening with Erbil, HCL, Ministers, CH7, etc… these are steps IMO that they are delaying because it will trigger Iraq going International and they need to have all their ducks in a row IMO…
[Fresh] clay not knowing WHEN it will happen… to your point on January… it’s less than 90 days out and they have established that it COULD be a very logical and critical point to initiate/complete this process… After this long and crazy ride for many years I’m not going to let about 85 days get me off the path we are on
[topgun3182] For so many reasons Jan would be JUST PLAN BAD, not the least of which is the following TWO …. 1. Taxes would be considerable MORE 2. Another holiday season (Thankgiving and Christmas) would be a struggle for so many of us … I could go on BUT I won’t..
[Fresh] topgun3182 sure absolutely – I can’t argue with that or the many other points you can make… But as AZGhostHunter has explained in a recent thread he started.. this is not about US as investors… This is about Iraq and their people… the RV is actually a relatively small part of the puzzle when you factor in all the other things like smart cards, government distributions, etc that need to coincide without flaw in harmony…
[Fresh] okay so moving on…
[Fresh] Maliki up to Russia in response to an official invitation| Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki during his arrival to Moscow Alsumaria News / Baghdad arrived Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, to Moscow at the head of the delegation of political and economic official visit at the invitation of Russian President Vladimir Putin. said Prime Minister’s Office said in a statement issued today, and received “Alsumaria News”, “Prime Minister Nuri Maliki arrived at noon today, to Moscow at the beginning of an official visit include the Republics of the Russian Federation and the Czech Republic. ” said Prime Minister’s Office that the “Deputy Russian Foreign Minister Morgolov and the Iraqi ambassador in Moscow and members of the Iraqi embassy were greeted by the Prime Minister and his entourage at the airport Vnokov” . Maliki flew, day two, (8 October now), at the head of the delegation of political and economic to Moscow on an official visit at the invitation of Russian President Vladimir Putin, while stressing that the visit will witness the signing of agreements in the fields of armament and energy, he noted that Iraq meets with Russia need to find a peaceful solution to the crisis in Syria. was Iraqi government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh announced in (4 October now), that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki will visit the Russian Federation in the eighth month of October now, at the invitation of President Vladimir Putin.
[Fresh] he chairman Minister Nuri al-Maliki, on the first of October, now, on the recent visit will to Russia, stressing that it comes within the political doors open, followed by Iraq with all countries of the world and aims to revive relations with Russia and developed in the fields of economy, trade and military.noteworthy that Iraq associated historic ties with Russia back to the forties of the last century, when established diplomatic relations between Iraq and the Soviet Union at the time, and Iraq became later the most important importers of military equipment Soviet, and they have evolved over the past years, especially in the field of investments in oil and electricity, winning Russian companies in licensing rounds for oil and gas investment in a number of Iraqi provinces
[Fresh] So just thinking out loud… Cool Maliki is trying to be a solid leader in the International Community… probably the biggest point I can make is… For all those that have continue to try and say for the last several months that Maliki is on his way out, etc… I’ve always maintained he’s not going anywhere… meanwhile we have the crew setting up preparation for the National Conference, finalizing HCL and getting things lined up for Maliki to finally give the stamp of approval… again to my earlier point this is all very coordinated right now. I’m sure the key political figures from Iraq are WELL aware of when they have to get these things satisfied or risk huge consequences…
[dinarmamma] Fresh you think his antics were all part of the show?
[onthewings] Fresh The other day when you said that someone you knew, gave you some encouraging news about the forex and iraq … was that about a rate ? or activitiy of iraq currency on the forex ? just wondering … ?
[Fresh] dinarmamma absolutely… remember Maliki was never in danger of getting a “no confidence vote”, etc – I pointed out in a conference call and chats around that discussion many months ago that he was installed and supported by the USA… nobody will touch him without our consent… and meanwhile Obama is taking HEAVY credit for winding down the war in Iraq and how we will see increased “savings” as a result… Obama cannot risk Maliki being plucked from power and a power struggle develop that puts the whole country at risk of losing years of progess
[letsroll] Fresh … exactly Iraq had a plan to follow and they want to move on as a country,,,, been taken awhile ,almost there…
[dinarmamma] Fresh I remember you saying that glad to be here…with you…cause you know things lol
[Fresh] dinarmamma remember my saying…
[Fresh] … I know everything.
[cornsnake64] Fresh the pattern ive noticed is there is much attention on all the events we watchem come and they dissappear. the question i have is where did they go. thing must have been done,checked off the list, and not announced to the outside world. it is confusing at best
[clay] Fresh thought that was me lol
[Fresh] cornsnake64 sure great point… let me comment
[Fresh] I’m going to take the premise that we are close and these key events were set to happen which based on a lot of our collective opinions here at PI could produce a currency that is International with a higher value against the dollar…
[Fresh] what if part of the final plan was rolling out these smart cards and seeing how they are handled by the citizens… and IF there were problems they may push back on these looming deadlines to buy more time to correct the situation… remember this process of the “RV” isn’t just paying us investors money… they have to have all their ducks in a row and be able to shift liquidity and distributions from the central Government to their people…
[Fresh] if they drop the ball on something significant like that an panic their people it could create pure chaos IMO
[cornsnake64] Fresh test run??
[simbaspen*] clay………announcement yes!! Give me Liberty or Give me RV
[Fresh] what do ya’ll think?
[DT N AZ] Fresh I agree
[clay] Fresh yep have just 1 chance
[JMillerTexan] Fresh I’m sure there is quite a check list to make sure they are ready!
[Fresh] clay correct
[clay] Shabe Im sure has all ready
[clay] s
[dinarmamma] Fresh you said it…I agree and now have to go back to work uke:
[Fresh] Let me throw this out there.. I’m sure a lot would agree…
[onthewings] Fresh We have all read article after article of them telling their people that this is coming .. and what happen to all the training we read about …. telling the people what to do when this new currency comes out …. so I want to think that the people are ready for this and even looking forward to moving their country forward …
[cornsnake64] onthewings i agree with you. we have to see all that is beeing done
[Fresh] At this point I personally start to think we may never really get the article(s) that give us dates for National Conference, HCL being finalized, etc with specific dates in advance… I tend to think we’ll see another typical news day and then BOOM we wake up or see BIG news starting to filter out… you will also likely see official statements regarding “Iraq emerging from Chapter 7 Sanctions that have been in place since the early 1990′s” … I think at this point with all the delays they have no real need to broadcast the conclustion in advance…
[onthewings] This RV is not about us , it’s about their country being strong and productive again…
[Fresh] onthewings correct
[Fresh] onthewings to your point the best thing I’ve seen in recent articles and pieces on Iraq is how financially strong they are and will be revealed to the World based on their vast wealth in Oil, Gold, etc… this means they have a pretty sweet finale of fireworks when they kick this off to the world – that makes me VERY encouraged!
[topgun3182] Fresh … to your point about the “Back up” wealth of the country …. Oil, Gold, Minerals, Agriculture, etc. This also makes me think If and when they trigger the “RV” it’s going to be VERY GOOD for US.
[Fresh] topgun3182 absolutely!

I'M EXPECTING A CALL TONIGHT, 8 OCTOBER



7:38 PM [TERRYK] HEY ALL  WHATS GOING ON TONIGHT MONDAY OF ALL MONDAYS HEY CHRIVERS WHATS SHAKIN

7:39 PM [michigander0131] whats up  
7:39 PM [lynnieq] Hey Terry K
7:39 PM [tradewind1] I just here myself
7:39 PM [kktwahoo]    howdy  

7:39 PM [TERRYK] WELL ALOT OF RUMORS ] BUT I STILL CANT TALK TILL TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND THEN WATCH OUT  I GAVE THEM A WEEK THATS WHAT I AGREED TO  AFTER THAT THE GLOVES COME OFF

7:40 PM [tradewind1] Will we like it?

7:40 PM [TERRYK] THEY CAN COME AND TAKE ME AWAY AFTER THAT

7:40 PM [chrivers] I don't blame U!

7:40 PM [TERRYK] I WILL TELL U WHATS BEEN GOING ON BEHIND THE WALL WHAT I KNOW ANYWAY
  7:41 PM [Wizards13]    we can't wait

7:41 PM [chrivers] must be some heavy stuff!!  

7:41 PM [TERRYK] SOME OF IT IS SOME OF IT JUST WEIRD

7:41 PM [chrivers] The PTB must really b pullin out all the stops!!

7:42 PM [TERRYK] SOME OF IT YOU WILL GO NO FRICKIN WAY  AS I DID

7:43 PM [chrivers] bet U r bursting at the seams!  

7:46 PM [goodgrins] looking forward tomorrow tk

7:46 PM [TERRYK] IM ALREADY BURSTING CHRIVERS I WANT TO SPILL ALL NOW WATCH I WILL GET A CALL TONIGHT YET SAYING YOU BETTER NOT

46 PM [tradewind1]    can I ask about when tomorrow

7:47 PM [chrivers]    that would b all our luck!!  

7:53 PM [TERRYK] SOME TIME IN THE AFTERNOON  I HAVE TO MAKE A CALL TO ENSURE I DONT GET THROWN INTO CYBER JAIL THO  LAST THING WE WANT IS FOR THE SITE TO GET LOCKED DOWN

7:55 PM [nano36] Very True    - that would surely rumble thru the Dinar World

7:55 PM [Wizards13]    can't have that

:56 PM [TERRYK] NOPE  WELL ALL I HAVE A HALLOWEEN MEETING WITH THE GRAND DAUGHTER TONIGHT GOTTA LAY OUT THE PLANS AND STAGE  TO SCARE ALL THE ADULTS THIS YEAR I AM EXPECTING A CALL TONIGHT  I WILL SOMEHOW GET IT PASSED ON  AS THIS IS SPOSE TO BE A GOOD NIGHT FOR SOMETHING  I DONT KNOW  GOD BLESS AND I WILL BE BACK  LATER

:04 PM [DISHMAN] I dont want to know what TERRY K knows if its going to in anyway Delay or stop the process anyone else agree with me its just not worth it... information is useless if it stops what we want to come from COMING!

8:07 PM [nano36] DISHMAN absolutely, we do not want to screw it up now

8:08 PM [susie] you know with those type of articles really is encouraging thanks so much

8:09 PM [DISHMAN] Its not worth it he needs to be patient just like we all are... I have info from many sources and discussed with TK and alot of its the same but im not willing to share it just incase

8:10 PM [nano36] Tumbleweed he says he will be back - you can be a talker - or a lurker  

8:10 PM [susie] i cannot either i was hoping he would spill the bean after midnight ahhh gotta wait till afternoon  but you are correct dont want to know anything if it causes a delay  geez the news says it all

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 8 OCTOBER


10-8-2012  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   GOOD DAY AMERICA, SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR WORLD WIDE FRIENDS. WELL-ANOTHER MONDAY IS PRESENT AND WE STILL SIT HERE WITH ANTICIPATION OF WHAT IS INEVITABLE. THE TIMING OF OUR BLESSING REMAIN'S A MYSTERY BUT 1 THING WE HAVE LEARNED IS THAT ALL THE RUMOR'S AND SPECULATION PUT FORTH...ALTHOUGH GIVEN IN HONEST APRAISAL HAS BEEN TO NO AVAIL. THIS LEAD'S US TO FINALLY BELIEVE THAT WHAT THE SO-CALLED HIGH SOURCES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SAYING--HAS AND IS INCORRECT. [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]

10-8-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    I think the National Meeting will go off.  I think Barzani and Allawi are making overtures that they will attend.  It all looks very good to me.  The CBI has said we have done 80% - 90% of the work that needs to be done.  They have taken a lot of the currency out of circulation.  They need to do something very soon. The CBI is saying we are ready to go once the politics is settled.  Ultimately, we are very, very close.  The National Meeting is very close to being done, probably a week to 10 days away at the most.  Time is on our side, we are in really good shape.  [post 2 of 2]

10-8-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG  There is a ton of excellent news.  All that's going on, has to go on.  Maliki is kind of stirring the pot.  Recently there has been a barrage of attacks against the CBI from the GOI, Maliki's thugs and the Council of Ministers.  They want control of the CBI so they can raise the rate of exchange. Do I think they will ever take the CBI over?  No, not any where close. Maliki is against everyone because he wants to stay in power.  He is making noise like he is trouble...supposedly going to Russia to make some kind of arms deal with Russia.  Maliki wants the infrastructure law passed because he will get around the whole Chapter 7 sanctions and will be able to buy weapons & whatever else he wants.  The U. N. still has significant sanctions against Iraq but as far as this investment goes, it's going to go easy or it's going to go real easy.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]

10-8-2012  Intel Guru Jonnywg    As for the RV,  this appears to be an exciting time as the election draws near I feel good at our chances this next period before the election...the information hotlines are heating up and i expect releases of info over the next few days.  i will come back when it is received.

10-8-2012  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   There is a very good chance that Iraq will not introduce the "new currency" till end of 2013 or sometime in 2014.  But that has nothing to do with us as they must raise the value first.  And it makes no difference in the budget until the value is greater than the USD.  Once the value is greater than the USD, that is when they will make it "official" and start a new year with it on a legal level.  Example, the dinar could be worth .10, .50, or even .86 all through 2013.  Then in Jan 2014, they could declare "we have deleted the zeros" and all transactions and accounting records are adjusted accordingly as Saleh states.  Another example could be a RV at a staging rate of 1 to $1 leaving it in place for 6-12 months as they transition from the current currency to the new currency....and then in Jan 2014 declare..."we have deleted the zeros".   So you can see, the "actual declaring" is simply a date in which zeros are removed and goes into effect in country and more than likely would be at the beginning of a year but has nothing to do with us as most of us will cash out at some rate we are comfortable with.

10-8-2012  Intel Guru Blaino  Shabibi is the best central bank person in the last 100 years, we just don't like his timeline. We wonder what are they doing and what are they waiting for. Lots of moving parts and if they are not lined up properly, it comes to a stop. The confluence, the convergence is coming about.. Lots of pressure. Lots of events they are trying to get done.

10-8-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Article:  "Kurdistan: the absence of Barzani National Congress for a bad omen for the next stage"   it’s not an absolute Barzani isn’t going to show. In fact, he has assured he would attend the National Meeting if the Erbil is honored and fully implemented. This seems to be the “line in the sand”. Maliki has said a number of times (publicly) he would fully implement the Erbil agreement. 

10-8-2012  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Article:  "Central Bank decides to change the timing of the implementation of the restructuring of the Iraqi currency project and the deletion of zeros"  This IMO is a very telling article.  If they plan to have the currency (smaller denoms) in circulation at the beginning of the year, then the rate must change prior to that date.  Here is the quote... "the new currency in circulation must be the beginning of the calendar year where it has been determined to begin implementation".  So now we wonder will this be the beginning of 2013?  If so, we can expect the rate to change at any time.  If not, then they will shoot for 2014 with the new currency, and the rate can raise via float over the next 14 months.   I do not see them waiting to 2014because that decision will slow down the ISX, WTO accession, and economic progress/employment, etc.  This is a very encouraging and promising article.

10-8-2012  Newshound Guru Med    I WILL TELL YOU WHY THEY DO NOT WANT TO REVALUE, THEY DONT BELIEVE THEY CAN AFFORD IT AND THEY ARE PISSED AT SHABIBI WANTING TO KNOW WHY WHY DID HE SELL SO MUCH, THAT HE HAD TO KNOW THIS WAS GOING TO BITE IRAQ IN THE ARSS WE ALL DID. NOW THIS IS UP IN THE AIR.  NOTHING I CAN TELL YOU AT THIS MOMENT IS FINAL.  NOTHING TO HAVE THE RV OR NOT TO.   THEY ARE LOOKING AT AN OPTION TO INCREASE THE VALUE BUT NOT DESTROY THE ASSETS IRAQ HAS FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.   IF THAT DOES NOT FLY THEN THEY ARE FORCED INTO AN RV.  WE SHALL SEE WHO WINS THIS BATTLE.  [post 2 of 2]

10-8-2012  Newshound Guru Med   THE TRUTH, AS I KNOW IT, THERE IS A BATTLE GOING ON RIGHT NOW ON DO THEY REVAL OR NOT.  I KNOW WHY OR HAVE FIGURED OUT WHY THEY DO NOT WANT TO REVALUE THIS YR.  THERE ARE REASONS THAT CBI IS BEING INVESTIGATED BACK IN MARCH OF 2009.  WHEN IRAQ FIRST LEFT THE INITIAL SBA AGREEMENT WITH THE IMF MALIKI AND HASHEMI AND MANY MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT BEGGED SHABIBI TO STOP SELLING THE DINAR AND...THAT IT WAS REDICULOUS TO KEEP SELLING OFF THE FUTURE OF IRAQ.  [post 1 of 2]

10-8-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    There are at least three different narratives in the process of developing…I’ll expand…First there is the constant and obvious struggle between the opposition and the dominant National Alliance (Maliki’s gang). This has been an ongoing battle for the soul of this fledgling democracy.  Second there is something of a mild internal struggle with in the opposition itself. This one is not so easy to identify – but it is there.  Next is the steady barrage of attacks from the GOI, Maliki and some elements in the Iraqi Parliament against the Central Bank of Iraq.  Finally, there is the overt pressure of the incumbents against those outside forces (the US included) to manipulate pressure against their enemies in an effort to garner support for their political futures

THE INFORMATION HOTLINES ARE HEATING UP AND I EXPECT RELEASES OF INFO OVER THE NEXT FEWS DAYS, 8 OCTOBER



[jonnywg] Just a note to tell all that I have had some limited success with my treatments and hope to report on it soon I am not good enough yet to read the chat room but hope to in the near future As for the RV this appears to be an exciting time as the election draws nea I feel good at our chances this next period before the election

[jonnywg] the period before the lection

[..SweetQueen] PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT JONNYWG IS HERE TO GIVE YOU BIT OF UPDATES, HE IS WORKING WITH DEVICE TO HELP HIM TYPE IN CHATROOM BUT CAN'T SEE QUESTIONS AS HE IS STILL UNDERGOING PROCEDURES.

 [jonnywg] thanks sq my vision is 20/400 and i must magnify

[..SweetQueen] jonnywg I UNDERSTAND, JUST YOUR PRESENCE IS GOOD ENOUGH YOU HAVE BEEN MISSED.
[jonnywg] I also will state that when the blessed event happens I will return to CANADA as I am told that only USA can cash in in USA as it is a citizen benefit

[jonnywg] it is felt that i am making some improvement .............. now lets getter don on this rv

[jonnywg] the information hotlines are heating up and i expect releases of info over the next few days ................................. i will come back when it is received

[jonnywg] as i said before .............DON'T WAIT FOR ME ......LOL

I WILL SHARE WHAT IM PERMITTED TO WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT, 8 OCTOBER


OKIEOILMAN & OOM&F CHAT 10/08/2012

[..OKIEOILMAN] GOOD DAY AMERICA, SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR WORLD WIDE FRIENDS. WELL-ANOTHER MONDAY IS PRESENT AND WE STILL SIT HERE WITH ANTICIPATION OF WHAT IS INEVITABLE.

THE TIMING OF OUR BLESSING REMAIN'S A MYSTERY BUT 1 THING WE HAVE LEARNED IS THAT ALL THE RUMOR'S AND SPECULATION PUT FORTH FROM OTHER SITES ALTHOUGH GIVEN IN HONEST APRAISAL HAS BEEN TO NO AVAIL.

THIS LEAD'S US TO FINALLY BELIEVE THAT WHAT THE SO-CALLED HIGH SOURCES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SAYING--HAS AND IS INCORRECT. 
  THERE HAS BEEN MUCH EMPHASIS PUT ON WHAT IS POLITICALLY OCCURRING IN IRAQ AS TO HAVING A DIRECT REFLECTION AND INFLUENCE. THIS IS ALSO INCORRECT.

IRAQ WAS REMOVED FROM THE INFLUENTIAL POSITION SEVERAL MONTH'S AGO WHEN THEY SIGNED OFF THE AUTHORITY TO REGULATE THE DENOMINATION OF THEIR CURRENCY TO THE B.I.S. THE WORLD BANK, THE I.M.F. AND THE U.S.T.--

THERE HAS BEEN MUCH PROGRESS AND IS STILL BEING PROGRESS IN THE FINALITY OF THE BLESSING.

WE NEED TO REMEMBER THIS INVESTMENT WAS SPECULATIVE AT BEST AND NEED TO PREPARE OURSELVES TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT IT WILL HAPPEN IN GOD'S PERFECT TIMING AND NOT IN OUR PERSONAL OPINION OF WHEN AND HOW MUCH THIS BLESSING WILL OCCUR.

TIMING IS THE KEY ELEMENT TO BE CONSIDERED AND PERHAP'S WE NEED TO APPROACH THIS BLESSING WITH ANTICIPATION OF WHEN THE PROPER TIMING OF THIS TO OCCUR ACTUALLY IS.

ALL THE SPECULATION AND CLOSELY FOLLOWING EACH AND EVERY RUMOR ORIGINATING FROM ANY SOURCE IS INTERESTING BUT HAS PROVEN AFTER MANY YEAR'S OF HAVING A 100% RECORD OF BEING UNTRUE. JUST LIKE THE SECOND COMING--NO MAN KNOW'S THE HOUR OR DAY.

WE AS FELLOW BELIEVERS SHOULD START PRAISING THE LORD FOR THE BLESSING FORTHCOMING AND QUIT ASKING FOR IT TO HAPPEN OVER AND OVER. THE LORD HEARD YOUR ORIGINAL PRAYER WHEN YOU FIRST ASKED FOR THIS BLESSING.

 NOW WE SHOULD BE ONLY AND ONLY WORSHIPING AND PRAISING OUR LORD WITH THANKSGIVING FOR SENDING A FORTHCOMING BLESSING. REMEMBER--GOD IS NOT FORGETFUL--GOD OPERATES ON HIS TIME SCHEDULE AS TIME IS IRRELEVANT TO GOD. GOD CONTROL'S TIME--AND HE DOES NOT WEAR A WRIST WATCH OR WATCH A CALENDAR

[..OKIEOILMAN] I AM VERY CLOSELY WATCHING THE EVENT UNFOLD RIGHT BEFORE MY VERY EYES AT THIS EXACT MOMENT IN TIME AND WILL SHARE WHAT I AM PERMITTED TO WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.

I WILL NOT IN ANY WAY SAY OR POST ANYTHING THAT MAY HAVE AN INFLUENCE OR JEOPARDIZE OUR POSITION AT THIS TIME. A LOT OF TIME THE BEST THING TO SAY IS --NOTHING AT ALL--

[..OKIEOILMAN] I ONCE COMPLAINED ABOUT MY TYPING SKILL---TILL I MET A VETERAN WITH NO HAND'S

IF THEY PLAN TO HAVE THE LD'S IN CIRCULATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, THEN THE RATE MUST CHANGE PRIOR THAT DATE, 8 OCTOBER

10-8-2012  Newshound Guru Kaperoni:Article:  "Central Bank decides to change the timing of the implementation of the restructuring of the Iraqi currency project and the deletion of zeros"  This IMO is a very telling article.  If they plan to have the currency (smaller denoms) in circulation at the beginning of the year, then the rate must change prior to that date.  Here is the quote... "the new currency in circulation must be the beginning of the calendar year where it has been determined to begin implementation".  So now we wonder will this be the beginning of 2013?  If so, we can expect the rate to change at any time.  If not, then they will shoot for 2014 with the new currency, and the rate can raise via float over the next 14 months.   I do not see them waiting to 2014 because that decision will slow down the ISX, WTO accession, and economic progress/employment, etc.  This is a very encouraging and promising article.

THERE IS A BATTLE GOING ON RIGHT NOW ON DO THEY REVAL OR NOT, PART 1, 8 OCTOER



Med (19:43:13): GANG  I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS ALL DAY I DONT KNOW ANYWAY TO EXPLAIN BUT THE TRUTH AS I KNOW IT THERE IS A BATTLE GOING ON RIGHT NOW ON DO THEY REVAL OR NOT I KNOW WHY OR HAVE FIGURED OUT WHY

THEY DO NOT WANT TO REVALUE THIS YR  THERE ARE REASONS THAT CBI IS BEING INVESTIGATED BACK IN MARCH OF 2009 WHEN IRAQ FIRST LEFT THE INITIAL SBA AGREEMENT WITH THE IMF MALIKI AND HASHEMI AND MANY MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT BEGGED SHABIBI TO STOP SELLING THE DINAR AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED THIS MANY TIMES THAT IT WAS REDICULOUS TO KEEP SELLING OFF THE FUTURE OF IRAQ

THINK ABOUT THIS OK AND I AM GOING TO DO IT AS SIMPLE AS I CAN LETS SAY THEY HAVE 24 TRILLION IN HARD CURRENCY IN IRAQ AND ALSO ALL THE COUNTRIES WHO HAVE TAKEN IT IN TRADE AND ALSO THE VALUES OF ALL THE TRADERS SALES  24 TRILLION
  NOW IF THEY REMOVE THE ZERO'S FROM THE NOMINAL VALUE THAT 24 TRILLIONS VALUE GOES UP IF THERE IS NO LOP AM I RIGHT

cookmarian: yes
Roadrunner: yes
TBar52: yes
mpw: hi med,,,,,,,,yes
guardian: yes
ksdunlap: yes
Chappy: yes
wrestler: yep

Med:OKNOW I WILL TELL YOU WHY THEY DO NOT WANT TO REVALUE
THEY DONT BELIEVE THEY CAN AFFORD IT AND THEY ARE PISSED AT SHABIBI WANTING TO KNOW WHY WHY DID HE SELL SO MUCHT HAT HE HAD TO KNOW THIS WAS GOING TO BITE IRAQ IN THE ARSS WE ALL DID

NOW THIS IS UP IN THE AIR NOTHING I CAN TELL YOU AT THIS MOMENTIS FINAL NOTHING TO HAVE THE RV OR NOT TO THEY ARE LOOKING AT AN OPTION TO INCREASE THE VALUE BUT NOT DESTROY THE ASSETS

IRAQ HASFROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND IF THAT DOES NOT FLY THEN THEY ARE FORCED INTO AN RV THAT IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW

busman: so are saying iraq is holding 24 tril.out of the 33 tril. in circulation leaving 9 tril. outstanding?

Med:NO BUSMANI WAS USING AN EXAMPLE THAT WAS ALL
Roadrunner: the longer they go though, the worse it gets

Med: NOTHING WAS ACCURATE YES ROADRUNNER
Roadrunner: because the auctions keep happening
busman: ok

Med: YES
guardian: inflation has been in single digits for quite awhile, so yes, why has he not RV'd

TataTime: I thought a great deal of the currency was going to be held by govts who would exchange their IQD over time for oil

Med: THAT IS CORRECT GUARIAN AND TATA THAT IS I AM SURE TRUE

guardian: other then in april he was told to stop
busman: more reason for a sucker rate

Med: YES BUSMAN

SLCdinar: Med where does it say Iraq has to buy back their currency with anything in specific?

Med: IT DOESN’T IT IS NOT LIKE THAT  IT IS NOT A BUY BACK

cookmarian: what does increase the value but not destroy the assets mean?

Med: I CANNOT SAY COOKMARIAN

cookmarian: OK

Med: I AM IN A CONFIDENCE  BUT SLC

Roadrunner: they also need confidence in the dinar in Iraq

SLCdinar: SO none of their assets are at risk then

Med: WHEN A CURRENCY GOES INTERNATIONAL THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO EVERY BIT OF IT OUT THERE

SLCdinar: sorry didn't mean to put it like that, meant for it to be a question

Med: I AM NOT UPSET

SLCdinar: so if someone wants to trade it back to them, thay could just say here is an oil voucher, Right?

  Med: RIGHT NOW CORRECT  NO  LOL

busman: i'll take an oil voucher,lol

cookmarian: Rock and a hard place

TBar52: MED doesnt the GOI have to only back a percentage of it upon reval?

Med: YES

busman: 15%

Med: INTERNATIONAL IS 20% BUT VERY FEW CAN THE U.S IS ONE AND I REALLY DONT KNOW WHO ELSE DOES REMEMBER 67 BILLION IS NOT ALLOT GANG

SLCdinar: thanks for your info and insight, I'm just gonna keep doing what I have been doing since 2004, I'll just keep waiting patiently to see what they do.

Med: IT IS ABOUT PATIENCE

busman: but it is growing med

Med: YES BUT THINK ABOUT TRILLIONS AND BILLIONS 20% OF ONE TRILLION

busman: a lot of zeros

Med: 200 BILLION

TataTime: What about the 800 bil in held assets overseas?

Roadrunner: Do we really know where the IMF stands on this? What their recommendation is to come out with- RV wise?

Med: THEY ARE NOT WORTH ANYTHING RIGHT NOW

TBar52: and didnt the IMF tell all the major holders of dina that they could not turn all in at one time

Med:  SO THEY CANT BE COUNTED  NO THEY WERE NEGOTIATING WITH THE US  AND OTHERS

guardian: what are we going to do when January rolls around and we possibly find out it will be 2014?

Med: GUARDIAN

Roadrunner: bad guardian!!

busman: WAIT,lol

Med: GUARDIAN  HMMMM  I REALLY DONT KNOW

busman: med, guardian is starting trouble!

guardian: i was hoping you would decide lol

wrestler: sit still i guess lol watch the packers

busman:

Med: I AM GOING TO SAY THIS G LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY OK THEY SAY JUST ONE MORE YEAR

guardian: we could have a chatroom for humor only

Med: SO WE CAN TRY TO GET OUR CRAP COORDINATED THEN AROUND NEXT OCT SAME THING HAPPENS

guardian: sounds good

Med: HUH NO I MEAN THEY SAY

cookmarian: sounds likely

Roadrunner: 8-|

Med: OH NEXT YEAR

mpw: we wait we pray we believe thats all we can do

Med: 2015 I MYSELF AM STRONG ENOUGH TO TAKE THIS OVER AND OVER BUT HOW MANY OTHERS

busman: that is because we are tough med

TataTime: I'll probably go protest your grocery store

Med: LOL

Roadrunner: in it for the long haul

Med: I AM ALSO

Chappy: me too

Med: I SAID WHEN I INVESTED

Roadrunner: no one said it was going to be easy

Big: We all have two options. Wait until they pull the trigger, or sell at market and move on with our lives. Simple as that

busman: i will see my 59th birthday, i'm good

Med: THIS WAS ALL LOST

adroberts: as long as we stay together we can deal with anything

surfsidedan: what a roller coaster ride this has been

Med: FOR SURE DAN

busman: agree adroberts

Med: REMEMBER I WAS ONLY ADRESSING GUARDIANS ? TO ME

guardian: i'll just let harry and pinckie post...and check in daily

Med: IT WAS WHAT IF FUNNY GIRL  BRB

Caviar Dreams: I thought G was talking about the party....Jan is hard

adroberts: we have come this far we can finish what we started

Caviar Dreams: needs to be some place warm

Roadrunner: Then after the Iraqi elections- it will RV

busman: that is funny, i found 5 articles this morning and did a search and all were posted by guardian, lol

GOP: For me it is an option C D. I will play this hand to the end

guardian: like the news said yesterday and today, they really shouldn't or can't wait

busman: i still think this is the calm before the storm, jmo

Big: All we know for sure is they're good at saying soooooooooon

busman: and not, big

Roadrunner: I agree guardian

Busyman: Oil, natural gas, minerals,.... I believe in this investment!!

Big: We talked earlier about 9/2012 to 1/2013. Only time will tell if that window needs to move. In the mean time we wait and support each other like the family we are

guardian: that's very true Big

Roadrunner: agree

Caviar Dreams: i'm in

busman: when the IMF told iraq in sept. 2010 oil reserves could be counted in their worth i still am excited

THERE IS A BATTLE GOING ON RIGHT NOW ON DO THEY REVAL OR NOT, PART 2, 8 OCTOBER



Med: SO YOU ALL ARE GOING TO HANG WITH ME

Roadrunner: I am sill optomistic for sooner than later
ranjoesgirl: yep
Retta: yes
Busyman: absolutely

adroberts: med and the other mods have kept us informed very good as long as they believe so do i

Big: YES!!!!!!!
busman: busyman, the gold is priceless, also
guardian: no longer should they be a kuwaiti wannabe
Diney: yes
Roadrunner: absoluely!
Caviar Dreams: as long as your bbq is workin'

Med: OK
  email70818: like a hair in a biscuit
busman: i'm in, not going anywhere
Busyman: I agree bus

Med:  JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU WHAT THE POSSIBILITIES ARE  WE SHALL SEE WHO WINS THIS BATTLE

Big: If there's more we need or can do, please ask. We're all in this for the long haul.

ranjoesgirl: short or long wait, i'm here till the end

busman: i can win battles, and i am winning the war

TataTime: Well, it's a kick in the groin, but it's part of the battle

Med: THERE IS NO KICK YET IT IS JUST WHAT I KNOW IS GOING ON OK

TataTime: well put

Roadrunner: let the end not be that of bitterness

surfsidedan: It's still a winning lottery ticket, we jusy don't know the rate and date

Roadrunner: J

busman: but life goes on, it is to short to stop living

Big: Right on RR

Chappy: i am betting on Shabs

Med: I WILL SAY THIS AND I AM SURE MOST OF YOU ALL KNOW IT ALREADY IF I GET NOTHING OUT OF THIS YOU DONT KNOW HOW RICH YOU ALL HAVE MADE ME I MAY NOT GET TO HAWAII OR SEE THE BIGGEST BALL OF TWINE LOL BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOOD FOR ME MEETING BIG ATCDY AND MM17 AND SONNY AND SO MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE COME TO VISIT US AND THOSE OF YOU I HAVE GROWN CLOSE TOO I CANT PUT A PRICE ON THAT  AND AM NOT GOING TO TRY

Roadrunner: back at ya!!

Med: I NO MATTER WHAT WILL NOT HAVE ONE REGRET

Big: You humble us all
busman: (F)

Med: ALL I HAVE TO SAY

guardian: it's definitely has been fun

Med:= IT HAS= YOU HAVE ALL SEEN ME TAKE AN ASS KICKIN BY SOME REAL JERKS

busman: STILL IS
adroberts: hellva ride

Med: AND I NEEDED TO PROVE I DONT QUIT WHEN I GIVE MY WORD I KEEP IT

ranjoesgirl: :-* yes you do
TBar52: and i for one thank you for that

Med: YOU HONORED ME BY LETTING ME LEAD THIS SITE THOUGH I WOULDNT HAVE IT HAS BEEN FUN AND STILL IS I HAVE A FEW THINGS AND I NEED MEMBERS TO STICK TO IT OK

Big: Done deal
Caviar Dreams: This year has been exciting.....and it's not over yet

Med: WE ARE MONITORED BY SOME BAD PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT AMERICANS DO NOT EVER MENTION HOW MUCH DINAR YOU HAVE EVER ON THIS SITE

adroberts: ok

Med: ALSO STAY AWAY FROM ANY DINAR SOLD FROM JORDAN OR IRAN BOTH COUNTRIES ARE COUNTERFIETING

Caviar Dreams: never heard that about jordan before

Med: THE DINAR BELIEVE WHAT I SAY

ranjoesgirl: ok
Chappy: k
TBar52: Thanks for the heads up

Med: THOSE ARE THE TWO MAIN THINGS

cookmarian: Thank you Med

Med: YW I HAD ALL THIS ON MY MIND ALL DAY

dutch90: Thanks med. Good night
Big: Thank you for continuing to try to protect us as we move forward with this investment!

Med: IT WAS REALLY BOTHERING ME

TataTime: You always said you would tell us the truth...good or bad
Big: Right on Tata

Med: YES I DID DIDNT I

cookmarian: From the start

Med: HOW DUMB WAS I TO SAY THAT LOL

GOP:
cookmarian: :P

TataTime: I don't understand why they are mad at Shabs, tho. He was told to stabilize the IQD and used the only tool left to his disposal while the GOI screwed around with everything else.

Med: BECAUSE HE COULD HAVE STABILIZED IT AT 1170  WITHOUT SELLING SO MUCH DINAR

Big: You are what you are, Med. You wouldn't be you if you weren't help us, and trying to keep us on the semi-straight and narrow

Med: HE USED THE INCREASED SALE OF CURRENCY NOT TO INCREASE THE VALUE IT DOESNT WORK THAT WAY  BUT TO HOLD ITS VALUE DOWN THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF MONETARY POLICIES EXPANSIONARY AND CONTRACTIONARY

BY PULLING IN DINAR AND INCREASING ASSETS YOU INCREASE THE VALUE BY MAKING IT LESS ACCESSIBLE BUT WHEN YOU FLOOD IT IT DECREASES THE VALUE SHABIBI USED THE EXTRA MONEY FROM THE SALES  TO DO WHAT ANYONE

TataTime: buy goods

Med: YES AND HERE IS ANOTHER PROBLEM WHEN THE DID AN AUDIT ON THE PURCHASE OF GOODS WITH THAT MONEY SHABIBI PAID OUT 120 MIL A DAY BUT HE RECEIVED ONLY 90MIL OF GOODS SO THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO 30 MILLION

TataTime: So he's not as smart as we had thought?

Med: APPARENTLY NOT

guardian: was iraq international banking technology in place for an rv? may have been reason for the delay...

TBar52: MED I thought by shabs selling the dinar off he was taking in us dollars that they wanted removed

Med: YES AND NO THE AUCTIONS ARE TWO PARTS HE USES ONE TO BUY BACK DINAR AND THE OTHER TO CONTROL THE CRAWLING PEG OR DIRTY FLOAT WHATEVERY YOU FEEL LIKE CALLING IT I HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE I WILL BBIAB OK SO BS TILL I GET BACK

TBar52: so then at every auction shabs is buying back the dinar off the streets
TataTime: It goes both ways, TBar
(thank you's)

Med: WHEN I GET BACK

TBar52: but if the goi is worried then shabs is doing a good thing by buying back the dinar

Med: I WILL TRY TO EXPLAIN

TBar52: thanks med

ANALYSIS OF SHREDD, 8 OCTOBER

The chat below is strictly opinion ONLY and is meant to be thought provoking. It is not fact but our opinions. Thank you. tlm724

[tlm724] so this art about US troops has been on my mind since Helen posted it in her section last nite and with grashopa's help I found the below 3 articles stating that "all" currency at replacement will be done through the CBI exclusively, 

"adding that not to receive money directly from the citizens is one effective means to prevent the entry of counterfeit currency to the bank. "

[tlm724] And the last art I have here says US troops at the CBI, I presume the four branches. I may be way off base here with my thinking but , Are our troops here for two reasons, to protect whats going out and through Iraq "and" to protect whats coming into Iraq , like a currency (iqd) worth more in the near future ?? hmmmmmm 

"The source pointed to the presence of experts envoys by the U.S. government are watching the central bank in order to make sure not to smuggle money, or to make sure there is no money laundering within the bank"



Central Bank reveals that he will not receive the currency of the Iraqi citizens at the replacement, will be exclusively through banks 

On: Saturday 06/23/2012 11:42 


Juba (Reuters) - said the CBI to hand over money when you switch the currency will be exclusively from the banks to prevent the entry of counterfeit currency. 
The deputy governor of the Central Bank, "the appearance of Mohammed," in a press statement today, "said the draft currency exchange will continue for ten years, but indirectly, to enable the citizens to take an adequate opportunity for anyone who is in the special circumstance of them," he said, adding that not to receive money directly from the citizens is one effective means to prevent the entry of counterfeit currency to the bank. He continued: "There is a question about the possibility of the Central Bank and institutions Chirfah over control of the entry of counterfeit currency during the process of switching the currency after you delete the zeros of which, the answer is that the central bank adopted the technology to check the money in addition to other measures . 
http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=ar|en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.basraelc.com%2F


Decision Finance Committee: foreign remittance through the Bank exclusively to reduce the laundering 

Date: 2012-08-19 10: 55: 12 Sunday 


Baghdad (News) ... Decision Finance Committee advised Deputy/Iraqi/coalition, Iraqi traders tracks Ahmad not to convert their money through offshore banks but across the Central Bank to control the illegal operations as currency smuggling and money laundering.
He said tracks (News Agency news) on: foreign banks which Iraqi merchant to handle transfer of funds when you import its goods have led to illegal operations, such as money laundering and currency smuggling to countries surrounding Iraq and suffering from a political and economic crisis such as Syria and Iran to the difficulty of controlling the work of those banks.

He added: the conversion process must be outside of the funds through the Central Bank and banks under the control and supervision of the Central Bank and can't deal with foreign banks because they help to carry out illegal operations cause damage to the national economy as money laundering and smuggling of foreign currency.

Confirmed: that Iraqi trader if he wanted to work illegally, the process is easy because of the exceptional circumstances in which Syria and Iran because they are trying to get hard currency from Iraq to save the economy, stressing that the Iraqi trader aware of attempts by those States of the heroes drain hard currency from the country./

http://www.ikhnews.com/news.php?action=view&id=52666

Monday 20 August 2012


Parliamentary Finance: Foreign money must be converted by the Central Bank exclusively to curb money laundering


Follow-up - and babysit - advised decision of the Finance Committee MP / coalition in Iraq / edited by electrodes, Iraqi traders not to transfer their money from foreign banks, but is through the central bank to control the operations of illegal smuggling of currency and money laundering.

The electrodes Today: The foreign banks that used the Iraqi trader in dealing with them in the transfer of funds when importing his goods led to carry out illegal Ketbiad money and currency smuggling to neighboring countries in Iraq and suffering from political and economic crisis such as Syria and Iran to the difficulty of controlling the work of those banks.


He added, must be the conversion process outside of the funds by the Central Bank and banks that are under the control and monitoring of the central bank can not deal with foreign banks, as they help to carry out an illegal cause damage to the national economy Kgusal money and smuggling of foreign currency.

http://alrayy.com/58840.htm

Source (range): American force monitors the Baghdad airport and the central bank and customs 


Date: Sunday 07/10/2012 09:59 AM 


 Baghdad / supporter Tayeb 
official source of the extent that the strength of U.S. military entered Baghdad International Airport and became responsible for inspecting Iranian aircraft heading to Syria through Iraqi airspace, fearing that such planes loaded with weapons to support the Syrian regime, which is facing popular protests and an armed uprising led by Free Syrian Army.



The source pointed to the presence of experts envoys by the U.S. government are watching the central bank in order to make sure not to smuggle money, or to make sure there is no money laundering within the bank, and monitor customs by the Customs General to ensure that the entry of materials and prohibited goods for the country. 

http://www.almadapaper.net/news.php?action=view&id=73695


[grashopa] and........the US soliders at the banks
[grashopa] and the airport
[grashopa] watching everything
[Shredd] you are a wise man 
[grashopa] did you see that??
[grashopa] this is something Timmy came up with....and put the arts to it......
[grashopa] Central Bank reveals that he will not receive the currency of the Iraqi citizens at the replacement, will be exclusively through banks 
[grashopa] see that date???
[grashopa] remember that??
[Shredd] reading...
[Shredd] ok....
[Shredd] ok, yes
[Shredd] i have saved this one too
[Shredd] because of the ten year reference.... ok
[grashopa] sooo........why are the soliders at the banks??
[grashopa] just now??
[grashopa] she has a good point on these arts
[Shredd] grashopa you know.....
[Shredd] funny we are chatting about this.....
[grashopa] yep
[Shredd] i wanna know more about soldier scripts
[Shredd] do you know about these?
[Shredd] and how they get paid
[Shredd] or exchange
[grashopa] no I don't
[grashopa] good thing we have a good memory............
[grashopa] I remembered about the exchange arts
[grashopa] and when that 1 about the soliders popped up
[grashopa] both Timmy and I went.....Hmmmmm
[Shredd] yes
[Shredd] very interesting
[Shredd] one of the peeps i got into this
[Shredd] was asking me about the military scripts
[Shredd] and how they get paid
[Shredd] interesting....
[Shredd] grashopa you ask a good question though
[Shredd] why are they at banks
[grashopa] one can only guess
[Shredd] watching the central bank in order to make sure not to smuggle money, or to make sure there is no money laundering within the bank, and monitor customs by the Customs General to ensure that the entry of materials and prohibited goods for the country

[grashopa] it spells out clearly right there
[Shredd] so, let's chew on this shall we
[grashopa] sure
[Shredd] military-supported "watch"
[Shredd] to ensure
[Shredd] no smuggling of money
[Shredd] kind of ties in with the 5000 article regarding closely watching SUPPLY
[Shredd] then
[Shredd] money laundering....
[Shredd] this will be a concern during this time of currency change
[Shredd] i mean, imagine for a minute you are an iraqi
[Shredd] you know about the low quality (and value) IQD
[Shredd] but you are using the USD
[Shredd] and you know the CBI is coming out with new dinar
[Shredd] but you haven't seen it yet
[Shredd] then if the cbi issues the current IQD lower denoms
[Shredd] now you have new stuff to get used to using
[Shredd] then, the NID will be coming out next year
[Shredd] so, if a counterfeiter wanted to slip in some fake stuff, there's his chance
[Shredd] then laundering is what? moving dirty money through many vessels to separate the bad source from the carrier
[Shredd] or, washing it
[Shredd] so that's an issue too
[Shredd] what's the best way to "manage" this?
[Shredd] military baby!
[Shredd] you dig?
[grashopa] not to mention....all the USD and 000 that will be exchanged
[Shredd] He added, must be the conversion process outside of the funds by the Central Bank and banks that are under the control and monitoring of the central bank can not deal with foreign banks, as they help to carry out an illegal cause damage to the national economy Kgusal money and smuggling of foreign currency.
[Shredd] grashopa exactly
[Shredd] no matter when they do this change,
[Shredd] many moving parts
[Shredd] and the cbi won't let it break
[Shredd] or lose a boat load due to oversights with AML or counterfeiting issues
[Shredd] keep it in "house"
[Shredd] clearly communicate
[Shredd] enforce compliance
[Shredd] with camo and guns 
[grashopa] and all exchanges HAVE to go through the banks
[Shredd] grashopa yes
[Shredd] they must and they will
[Shredd] in Iraq
[Shredd] thank you for bringing those articles in
[Shredd] and again, great news for the CBI to say this is happening next year
[Shredd] not in two years

[grashopa] Central likely rebound soon dinar Author: The future of Iraq 10/08/2012 12:00 am BAGHDAD / future Iraqi CBI likely improve the Iraqi dinar against foreign currency in the near future. The deputy governor said the appearance of Dr. Mohammed Saleh, said that the development of the Iraqi dinar began to improve the difficult international currencies and will improve more over the next few days as a result of increased oil production, which seder substantial financial resources of hard currency, making the country away from the global economic crisis. Saleh pointed out that the inverse relationship between the dollar and gold, when rising dollar reduced the value of gold and vice versa, stressing that the global crisis that hit Europe and America have made ​​the demand for gold is increasing for adoption buffer stock to keep the wealth has led to increased price on the world markets with low value of the dollar . and added that some countries when you see the unstable situation of the dollar in trading world they sheltering other alternatives and يتحوطون them are either gold or oil or food viable storage, pointing out that the gold the best alternative to the dollar to maintain the global wealth. http://translate.google.com/translate?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.faceiraq.com/inews.php%3Fid%3D993303

[Shredd] grashopa man, some amazing news today
[Shredd] wow 
[Shredd] Central Bank decides to change the timing of the implementation of the restructuring of the Iraqi currency project and the deletion of zeros 
[grashopa] yep
[Shredd] Iraqi Central Bank, Sunday, timing adjustment starting project structuring the Iraqi currency and delete the zeros of them, stressing that it completed the bulk of the proceedings, among that a new currency in circulation must be the beginning of the calendar year where it is determined to start implementation, not through it. the new currency in circulation MUST be the BEGINNING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR Player bolded this awesome line: The bank said that "this project is of vital importance to our country, our economy and society," adding that he "completed the bulk of the action on the implementation of the project." http://translate.google.com/translate?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.alsumarianews.com/ar/3/49207/news-details-Iraq%2520business%2520news.html

[Shredd] So, this tells us the consistent message that Shabbs cares for his country and in the context of the 000 project MUST move forward. Amazing article!
[grashopa] among that a new currency in circulation
[grashopa] I just don't see them telling the whole world...........when they are going to do it...............even a remote timeframe
[grashopa] and I also don't see how or why...they would waste the already printed ld's from 2003
[Shredd] i agree my friend
[Shredd] so
[Shredd] this puts us on the fast train imo
[Shredd] it really does
[Shredd] the only purpose for those LDs
[grashopa] I agree
[Shredd] is before the implementation of the 000 plan
[Shredd] yes
[Shredd] so, imo
[Shredd] this news
[Shredd] from the horse's mouth
[Shredd] brings us much closer
[Shredd] seriously
[Shredd] i'm stoked
[grashopa] sooooo.........are these soliders just gonna hang out at the banks.......just waiting????
[Shredd] "this project is of vital importance to our country, our economy and society," adding that he "completed the bulk of the action on the implementation of the project." 
[grashopa] doubt it
[Shredd] grashopa nope
[grashopa] banks controlled by the CBI......all over Iraq
[tlm724] Shredd i have a question 
[grashopa] not just the 4 main branches
[tlm724] Shredd i don't see a "year" mentioned in that art, are we presuming they mean the beginning of 2013?
[Shredd] be the beginning of the calendar year 
[Shredd] And the bank on the need to "be the new currency in circulation at the completion print must be the beginning of the calendar year where it has been determined start and not during the implementation." 

[Shredd] tlm724 yes
[grashopa] where it has been determined start and not during the implementation." 
[grashopa] thats the brand new stuff
[tlm724] Shredd NID
[Shredd] now, they are also talking about how the plan must be implemented at the beginning of the year and not the middle
[Shredd] we have seen this in previous articles too
[Shredd] must be at the beginning
[Shredd] also, remember the article about the next budget wont have the 000s in it?
[tlm724] yes
[Shredd] so, imo yes, 2013 tlm724 
[grashopa] sooooo....do ya'll really think they are going to tell the whole a timeframe??
[grashopa] or jump the gun on it?
[Shredd] also, did you see the telephone banking article

Central bank: soon will run telephone banking service

Sunday, 07 October 1 / Okrudolf 2012 17:47
Central bank: soon will run telephone banking service

{Baghdad: Euphrates News} Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of favor that he will soon run telephone banking service.

Saleh said in a statement to the Euphrates News Agency {} on Sunday that "the proportion of dealers with low banks in the original where it's at the {10% to 13%} and subject to the policies of the banking institution and the culture of the community."

He said this percentage actually increased from a million and a quarter of a million to 4 million bank account based on the increase in population and activity the government and private banking.

He explained that there are efforts to increase this percentage to 4 times the introduction of technology and service is running phone banks where {80%} of Iraqis have mobile phone and can be turned Mobile to the bank in the process of push and pull, and others.

He said the new project is easier to deal technological Bachirfah and will see the light soon and will be published at the level of the whole country.

Reports indicate the low percentage of dealers with banks, which bring him back specialists to, inter alia, political banking in the country and culture community as many people prefer to deal directly with money away from banks and routines, as well as the principle of safety in the transportation and handling money in the security conditions conditions in the country, as well as the effects of the political crisis on the situation in the country in general and fiscal policyhttp://www.alforatnews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=23341:2012-10-07-14-47-21&catid=37:2011-04-08-17-25-57&Itemid=57

[Shredd] another piece to the banking puzzle
[grashopa] yep
[Shredd] you guys, on the banking side, IMO.....
[tlm724] Shredd yep they are going electronic
[Shredd] iraq is ready
[Shredd] they are ready to manage flow
[Shredd] maliki also submitted two names for interior....i know, i know, we've seen this before but still....

[Shredd] ok, gotta run.........be excited y'all

[Shredd] good chatting with you all
[grashopa] thanks shredd
[tlm724] Shredd and grashopa ty !!