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Saturday, October 6, 2012

MICHINGANDER CHAT, 6 OCTOBER


michigander0131] Saturday, 6 October 2012 Economic parliamentary: the deletion of zeros from the currency will strengthen security and absorbs high inflation BAGHDAD - babysit - a member of the Economic Committee noted MP Abdul-Hussein Abtan, to the Iraqi market need for the project to delete the zeros from the currency in early 2013 to save the country from high inflation.

Abtan said in a press statement: The local market is an urgent need to delete the zeros from the currency, which works to raise inflation rates and increasing the money supply if left zeros for the year 2014, stressing: that postponing the project would damage the national economy.

 [michigander0131] so here they admit that waiting will damage the economy and best time to do it is early 2013
http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=auto|en&u=http%3A%2F%2Falrayy.com%2F

[michigander0131] Abtan: You must delete the zeros early 2013 and postponed to 2014 is incorrect 2012-10-06 06:05:25 - BAGHDAD (Iba) .. A member of the Economic Committee MP Abdul Hussein Abtan, the Iraqi market needs to project the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency early (2013) to save the country from greater economic inflation, stressing: that the postponement of the project (2014) will hurt the country's economy.    LINK
michigander0131] heres another one same thing do it now// don't wait

[michigander0131] Date: 06/10/2012 13:46:16 Saturday Baghdad (news) .. Male member of the Finance Committee MP / National Alliance / Abdul Hussein al-Yasiri, that the actions of the central bank to increase the width of the dollar led to balance the dinar exchange rate against the dollar, but it was not balanced the required level.

Yasiri said (of the Agency news sons) on Saturday: The low exchange rate of the dollar against the dinar a result of actions of the Central Bank is not the level of ambition, stressing that the Finance Committee and in coordination with the Central Bank will develop new procedures to make the dollar worth of the dinar.

He added: that the currency's strength comes from the strength of the country's economy, adding that the new measures to be taken summed up the sale of hard currency by the Central Bank for banks and banking companies. / End / 21. D. Q /

http://translate.google.com/translate?langpair=auto|en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikhnews.com%2F

LINK

[michigander0131] this one is another article stating that they want the dinar to be equal with the dollar

BLAINO UPDATE, 6 OCTOBER


9:21 PM target: [6:34:07 PM] Blaino] Confirmed an MP for the Kurdistan Alliance longings Dry Saturday, that the political problem of Iraq not only be resolved by sitting briefly the first row of the leaders of political leaders at the dialogue table, adding that political problems are not trivial problems, but deep, threatening the democratic process that began after 2003.

She said in a statement received by all of Iraq [where] a copy of it today, that "the presence of leaders of the first row of the political leaders is very important because they owners decision in a lot of things, even though they represent political blocs, but Chaoarham through bloc with parties and other parties a positive impact on the transfer of ideas blocs represented the people inside the National Congress to be held soon, "adding that" the political problems are not trivial problems, but the problems are real and deep threatening the democratic process. 
  " The dry that "the presence of the poles of the political process at the national meeting called by President Jalal Talabani is very important, especially the President of Kurdistan, Massoud Barzani and the Iraqi leader Iyad Allawi and President of the National Alliance Ibrahim al-Jaafari and al-Hakim and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and Islamic    leader Iyad al-Samarrai and other leaders who have an active and essential role in bringing democracy to Iraq.
 
9:22 PM target: [7:24:31 PM] ...: Blanio: part 2... "Iraq has been a political crisis that lasted several months due to the escalation of the differences between the political blocs on matters related to the partnership in the management of the state, in addition to other files, most recently was the law of payment on credit, which was introduced by the House of Representatives for discussion and therefore obligatory objections severe than most political blocs notably list Coalition and Iraqi Kurdistan on a range of issues,

while Iraqi demanded the need to develop guarantees for companies that will sign with Iraq, while a student of the Kurdistan Alliance to be 17 per cent in-law, said after the parliamentary sources that it was agreed between the State of Law coalition and the Kurdistan Alliance that does not pass the law provided to accept a coalition of law by the province in the law.

Still the political process in Iraq deteriorating due to the persistence of certain political forces claim to withdraw confidence from the Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, and the trend towards questioning in parliament, after several meetings were held in each of the provinces of Arbil and Najaf, which led to the resort of the National Alliance for the preparation of a paper reforms to resolve the crisis , has suspended political blocs hopes on Talabani, who returned to Iraq after a therapeutic trip in Germany lasted for three months, in order to end the chapters of the political crisis, through the national meeting which called him earlier.
 
9:22 PM leaderbabs:    everyone - I read this earlier - but can anyone tell me what it all means?
 
9:33 PM gambler1: I am with leaderbabs. I understand this thing fairly well, but not sure if this is anything new. Seems like the same ole. However, if it is saying they are indeed meeting as in national meeting and moving this along, then that is a good sign for us. So, my question is--is this saying the NM is indeed happening? Or maybe it is not saying that. Just not sure which way it reads.

9:44 PM gambler1:    Target. I read it again. So, if the Nat. Conf. is middle of the month, these readings seem to make sense. What I am hearing them say is that all of these troubles have been out there, but now that Talabani is back--everyone is ready to clear up the significant issues of the move to democratic governance. I think that is the way I will understand it until I hear something different.    again.

  9:44 PM target: gambler1 your welcome  we hope

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 6 OCTOBER

10-6-2012  Intel Guru Blaino   THE "LIFTING", "REMOVAL" AND/OR "CUTTING OFF" THE 3 ZEROS IS NOW CLEARLY ALL ABOUT THE REMOVAL (FROM THE STREET) OF THESE LARGE QUANTITY NOTES...5K, 10K, 25K..AND HAS BEEN DIVORCED FROM A CONNECTION TO THE 'RATE'...OF THE EXCHANGE FOR THE IQD. OH WHAT A RELIEF IT IS TO FINALLY GET CLARITY ON THAT ISSUE... OUR CONCERN IS THE RATE "CHANGE"...AND THE RATE OF GROWTH IN THAT VALUE OVER TIME. 

10-6-2012  Newshound Guru Bondlady   what messed the whole thing up from happening for over 2 years was even trying to make the goi a power sharing gov, clearly they don't and won't share and if the national conference fails then it should move to majority gov...many want to pass laws but the quota system stops that...blocs who want stuff,  so they hold out and shoot down important stuff for there own selfish greedy wants...was not a good thing the US came up with power sharing... if they would just do whats best for the people and the country but they can't, greed and power and selfishness drives them.   they have already said next elections will not be this power sharing stuff

10-6-2012  Newshound Guru Med   A GREAT ARTICLE THIS MORNING FROM THE ECONOMIC FINANCE COMMITTEE THAT THE ZERO'S NEED TO BE DELETED ON SCHEDULE  AND NOT WAIT,  IF THEY WAIT IT WILL HAVE A DEVASTATING EFFECT ON THE IRAQ ECONOMY AND INFLATION WILL RISE...IT WAS VERY GOOD...NICE TO GET SOME GOOD NEWS. 

10-6-2012  Intel Guru Blaino   THE NATIONAL MEETING "MAY" BE HELD MORE TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH...3 NAMES ARE EXPECTED TO BE NOMINATED, AND ONE OF THESE WILL BE CHOSEN.  WE WERE INFORMED ABOUT NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR THAT THESE LAST 2 MINISTERS WERE QUIETLY SELECTED AND WERE WORKING ...SO, WERE THESE UN-ANNOUNCED GUYS MERELY "PLACE HOLDERS" OR HAS THE SHIFTING OF POWER FORCED NEW CANDIDATES MORE ACCEPTABLE TO THE POWERS ON THE RISE TO BE CHOSEN?  THE ANSWERS TO THESE AND OTHER QUESTIONS MAY BE FORTHCOMING IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TEN DAYS.

10-6-2012  Newshound Guru Bondlady   ive said many times theres no smoke and mirrors...there hasn't been any smoke in a few years,  just got to know how and what your reading... i do try to show a road map from the past to the future and sometimes those maps we have to follow are years old, but if you throw that map out because it never happened yet then you throw out what you knew was going to happen...well i did say the coming out party per the london convention and i did because thats true...it was letting europe know iraqs ready to do business with the world and get their suggestions as to what would make it easier for the world to come in and invest,  so it really was but it wasn't there currency coming out party... just can't put a timex on iraqs wrist when they go by a sundial. 

10-6-2012  Intel Guru Bluwolf    IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS WHERE THERE ARE SOME LOOP HOLES THAT HAVE TO BE COVERED. ALL MUST BE PERFECT BEFORE IT GOES LIVE...BUT WE ARE CLOSE.  WE ARE IN A VERY IMPORTANT MOMENT IN HISTORY.  WE ARE ABOUT TO RECEIVE A VALUABLE BLESSING.  I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING, THAT WE ARE CLOSE AND THAT YOU WILL RECEIVE YOUR BLESSINGS VERY SOON.

10-6-2012  Newshound Guru Med  IRAQI OIL EXPORTS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DINAR REVALUED BUT THE DINARS VALUE HAS ALOT TO DO WITH OIL PRODUCTION FOR THE FUTURE OF THE DINAR...THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET IT MOVING.   IT ISNT JUST...HOW MUCH OIL,  PEOPLE HAVE TO TRUST THE GOI.  THEY NEED TO BELIEVE THAT THEY WILL BE PAID FOR IMPORTS AND IRAQS HISTORY ON PAYING ANYTHING IS BAD...NOW SHABIBI IS TRYING TO SELL THE IDEA OF THE DINAR TO THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ AND NOT USE THE USD.  THE SAME HAS TO BE DONE INTERNATIONALLY.   IF IT CANT BE SOLD TO COUNTRIES LIKE AMERICA, CANADA AND THE UK THEN IT WONT MATTER HOW MUCH OIL THEY PUT OUT

MED CHAT, 6 OCTOBER


Med says to (07:27:56):    HARRY POSTED A GREAT ARTICLE THIS MORNING   FROM THE ECONOMIC FINANCE COMMITTEE   THAT THE ZERO'S NEED TO BE DELETED ON SCHEDULE   AND NOT WAIT   IF THEY WAIT IT WILL HAVE A DEVASTATING EFFECT  ON THE IRAQ ECONOMY  AND INFLATION WILL RISE

    IT SPELLS OUT ALL THE REASONS  IN A VERY ARTICULATE WAY  BOY THAT CHASED EVERYONE AWAY   OK LATER GANG

    glk says (07:32:26):   still listening Med ! LOL

    Med says to (07:32:42):ALL DONE

    pballone says to (07:32:43):   we didn't want for you to lose your train of thought
    Big says to (07:32:50):   just heading to the forums

    Med says to (07:32:55): LOLI FIGURED THAT PB
    pballone says to (07:33:00):  we were liking what you were saying

    Med says to (07:33:03): WAS JUST JOKING IT WAS VERY GOOD

    ksdunlap says to (07:33:19): Good morning to you & DS

    Med says to (07:33:26):  NICE TO GET SOME GOOD NEWS

    pballone says to (07:33:38): AMEN to that

    Med says to (07:33:50):AFTER READING THAT RIDICULOUS BS  LAST NIGHT FROM THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE ON HOW THEY GAVE UP ON TRYING TO SETTLE THINGS
    IT IS FUNNY HOW THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT WAS LOST IN ALL THIS AND ONLY ONE MAN GOT WHAT HE WANTED AND HAS HE BEEN GREAT FOR IRAQ IRAQS DEMISE THAT IS

    MALIKI IS BY FAR THE WORST LEADER OF A COUNTRY OR EVEN A COMMUNITY I HAVE EVER WITNESSED IN MY LIFE.   HE SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED TO MANAGE A HOUSEHOLD

SO YOU GOT ANY SNOW DOWN THERE PB    IT IS SNOWING RIGHT NOW    GROUND IS WHITE    CARS ARE ALL WHITE

Expert: Recent CBI policy will support the stability of the dinar exchange rate, 6 OCTOBER


Expert: Recent CBI policy will support the stability of the dinar exchange rate

10/06/2012 12:00 am
BAGHDAD – morning
attributed the economic expert Manaf Al Sayegh, the reasons for the recent actions of the Central Bank to raise quota price of Iraqi banks for the currency, to stabilize the exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar.
Sayegh said: that the central bank develop new measures to increase quota prices for the currency in Iraqi banks and make the currency market as a result of free market stability and balance the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar against the U.S. dollar in the local market, indicating that the quota imposed on currency prices in banks previously when the price of the dollar against dinar. Sayegh added that the central bank to impose restrictions on the sale of the currency in Iraqi banks when increased demand for the dollar and increased its value against the dinar, ماجعلها successful actions have achieved a balance in the currency.
stressing that the policy of the Central Bank reduced the difference between the price of the two currencies in the money market and the price of the currency at the Central Bank, adding that the exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar has become parallel and the percentage difference between the two estimates (2 percent).
http://bit.ly/QBk2eL

Economist: Central controlled at the level of hard currency in Iraq, 6 OCTOBER


Economist: Central controlled at the level of hard currency in Iraq

10/06/2012 14:42:37
BAGHDAD (Iba) … Stressed economic analyst, Dr. Hilal Taan that the Iraqi Central Bank has the ability and the almost complete control over the level of hard currency in the country through auctions organized by the League.
He Taan told the independent press (Iba) that hard currency sold through auctions the central bank and some other ports in the Rafidain and Rasheed, and if infect the limit by the smugglers $ 450 million, the bank is to stop such auctions for periods extending to about two weeks or three, he said.
And did when he called that currency smuggling operations exist in most countries of the world and not only in Iraq, and therefore, for such operations is not new Palmstgrbh in the Iraqi economy.
However, it is true that this matter has influence on the economy but not Baltathirakabar, as is known, Iraq’s oil exports, which rose to more than 3 million barrels per day, sold the dollar and the Ministry of Finance completing sales in U.S. dollars and then you are buying the Iraqi dinar from the central bank and the conversion sales amounts in dollars to him and this process will be the central bank may possessed amounts of good foreign currency, which had a balance of more than sixty-seven billion dollars, and this balance is increasing and it is not to smuggle currency to Sulaymaniyah or neighboring countries a significant impact on the Iraqi economy, the limit his mind
http://bit.ly/Wz4Wcn

Member of Finance Committee: Devaluation of dollar against dinar winning is not the level of ambition, 6 OCTOBER


Member of Finance Committee: Devaluation of dollar against dinar winning is not the level of ambition

Date: 06/10/2012 13:46:16 Saturday
Baghdad (news) .. Male member of the Finance Committee MP / National Alliance / Abdul Hussein al-Yasiri, that the actions of the central bank to increase the width of the dollar led to balance the dinar exchange rate against the dollar, but it was not balanced the required level.
Yasiri said (of the Agency news sons) on Saturday: The low exchange rate of the dollar against the dinar a result of actions of the Central Bank is not the level of ambition, stressing that the Finance Committee and in coordination with the Central Bank will develop new procedures to make the dollar worth of the dinar.
He added: that the currency’s strength comes from the strength of the country’s economy, adding that the new measures to be taken summed up the sale of hard currency by the Central Bank for banks and banking companies.
http://bit.ly/UKraWc

Economic Committee Member: Deletion of zeros needed in early 2013; Will strengthen security and absorbs high inflation, 6 OCTOBER


Economic Committee Member: Deletion of zeros needed in early 2013; Will strengthen security and absorbs high inflation

a member of the Economic Committee noted MP Abdul-Hussein Abtan, to the Iraqi market need for the project to delete the zeros from the currency in early 2013 to save the country from high inflation.
Abtan said in a press statement: The local market is an urgent need to delete the zeros from the currency, which works to raise inflation rates and increasing the money supply if left zeros for the year 2014, stressing: that postponing the project would damage the national economy.
He added: It is necessary to move from one currency zeros that increase financial bloc and make it an easy way to theft and loss to a more sophisticated currency, he said, adding that the project to delete the zeros is a message to the civilized world that Iraq’s economy is improving.
He continued: that the project to delete the zeros will not lead to the collapse of the currency, but will make it safer from theft and less cash in mass commercialization.
Noting that inflation is on the increase, due to an increase in the money supply for the scarcity of goods and higher prices as a result of the closure of border crossings with Syria and stop the import of materials, goods
http://bit.ly/SJD6FE

CBI allowed to sell the dollar directly to citizens, Economic Committee member believes its in preparation for dropping of zeros, 6 OCTOBER


CBI allowed to sell the dollar directly to citizens, Economic Committee member believes its in preparation for dropping of zeros

06-10-2012 12:35 PM
Description deputies and economic experts Iraqi decision of the Central Bank of Iraq fired dollar selling directly to citizens, with raising the ceiling of foreign remittances, the bold step and controversial, noting that it would use for the benefit of Syria and Iran.
The «Central »In an official statement, its ability to meet demand for foreign currency in full, not intersect with the law against money laundering, crime and financing of terrorism, as decided to amend the instructions auction of foreign currency within his quest to move to the drainage system free and open, including the abolition of ceilings amounts foreign currency sold to banks daily to foreign exchange.
It also decided to double the foreign currency ceilings sold in cash to banks on a weekly basis. The banks have the right to determine the sale price of foreign currency to their customers, purchase and cancellation of previous selections, as foreign exchange sold by the banks to customers up to five thousand dollars to the customer in exchange for highlighting civic identity only canceled the conditions and other details.
He explained that he would continue to cooperate with the concerned authorities in the fight against money laundering and money, crime and terrorism, and any illegal Dealings, calling for adherence to the anti-terrorism law.
The bank issued strict instructions governing the sale of currency by banks, including requiring those concerned in the activity of the Iraqi private, traders, industrialists and segments other productive who import goods and services and production requirements and equipment development, when applying to private banks to participate in an auction of foreign currency to finance Mistordathm cross conversion or open letters of credit, the obligation at an exchange rate of $ 1189 dollars for dinars, after having documents that prove importation in accordance with standard international norms of documentary credits and remittances and instructions.
She described a member of the parliamentary Economic Commission Nora Salem البجاري decisions « Central »as« bold »and came in reaction to recent accusations launched by senior government officials against him, including statements made ​​by the Secretary General of the Council of Ministers on the Keywords.
It pointed out «many negative will impact the application of these amendments , including the possibility of exploiting some weak people of customers banks such mechanisms to collect large amounts of dollar to finance those smuggled currency to Neighboring countries, especially those that suffer from economic sanctions, ie, Iran and Syria.
She pointed out that «increase and I think he was trying to prepare to stage the deletion of zeros from the national currency and raise the value of one dollar of the dollar.
He stressed that «Central is a technical body and has no regulatory mechanisms to monitor the market, and here will be the responsibility monitor currency smuggling and the financing of terrorism, crime and money laundering, the responsibility of others, mostly unfortunately not competent and does not have the trained staff.
The Keywords stressed that «less than five percent of the foreign transfers are legal , and the amounts that fled abroad during the past years is estimated at $ 180 billion », adding that« the government when exhorts central to intensify control over the movement of funds, it is not an interference in Bank’s work, but aims to maintain public money.
He pointed to «central claim to tighten controls on the movement of funds and activate the Office of the Inspector General, who was appointed prime minister, but the bank rejected the idea of Inspector and Vowed to take some actions that limit the smuggling of currency and control the workTel of banks. But the government has not seen any results of the procedures and reached the things that converts from Iraq $ 180 billion without a document or document conversion or output, especially that this amount represents half the country’s revenue during the past years and out were in accordance with the processes and fake titles lined, raises suspicion and wonder.
The «Central» «currency auction supervised by since 2004 sold about $ 200 billion for clients, a civil banks and money transfer companies, as daily sales rates range between 125 and 200 million dollars during the five sessions a week.
http://bit.ly/VJ5rkM

MP for mass citizen Abdul-Hussein Abtan: You must delete the zeros early 2013 and postponed to 2014 is incorrect, 6 OCTOBER

MP for mass citizen Abdul-Hussein Abtan: You must delete the zeros early 2013 and postponed to 2014 is incorrect



A member of the Economic Committee MP Abdul Hussein Abtan, the Iraqi market needs to project the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency early (2013) to save the country from greater economic inflation, stressing: that the postponement of the project (2014) will hurt the country's economy.
Said Abtan told the independent press (Iba): It is necessary to move from currency zeros that increase of the mass of financial and makes them an easy way to steal and loss to currency more sophisticated, adding: that the project to delete the zeros is a message to the civilized world that Iraq's economy is improving day after day.
He added: that the project to delete the zeros will not lead to the collapse of the currency, but will make it safer from theft and less cash in mass commercialization

He explained: that inflation is increasing continuously in Iraq because of the increased money supply for the lack of scarcity of goods and higher prices as a result of the closure of border crossings with Syria and stop the import of materials and goods to Iraq

http://www.burathanews.com/news_article_171758.html

BONDLADY CHAT, 6 OCTOBER


MP for mass citizen Abdul-Hussein Abtan: You must delete the zeros early 2013 and postponed to 2014 is incorrect

10/06/2012 - 1:00 pm A member of the Economic Committee MP Abdul Hussein Abtan, the Iraqi market needs to project the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency early (2013) to save the country from greater economic inflation, stressing: that the postponement of the project (2014) will hurt the country's economy.

Said Abtan told the independent press (Iba): It is necessary to move from currency zeros that increase of the mass of financial and makes them an easy way to steal and loss to currency more sophisticated, adding: that the project to delete the zeros is a message to the civilized world that Iraq's economy is improving day after day.

He added: that the project to delete the zeros will not lead to the collapse of the currency, but will make it safer from theft and less cash in mass commercialization.
  He explained: that inflation is increasing continuously in Iraq because of the increased money supply for the lack of scarcity of goods and higher prices as a result of the closure of border crossings with Syria and stop the import of materials and goods to Iraq

http://www.burathanews.com/news_article_171758.html

[Shredd] i just read this and commented in the forum

[BondLady] sending a message to the civillized world  now if the uncivillized world would just get it too

[Shredd] i mean, all the work the cbi has been doing on the banking side alone points me to thinking it can't be delayed   BondLady i have a question for you

[Shredd] Zobaie reveals that Allawi will attend the national meeting effectively Agencies - MP for the coalition in Iraq Talal Hussein al-Zobaie, that the head of his list of Iyad Allawi will attend the national meeting, noting that the president is able to be pressure on the political blocs in order to show the concessions because it propped from the United States.

Zobaie said in a press statement: The head of the Iraqi List, Iyad Allawi will attend effectively to the national meeting because of the advocates of solving problems in Iraq and so does not assume responsibility for the problems that will occur.

He added: that President Jalal Talabani, unable to be pressure on the political parties to show concessions because it propped by the United States, expected to reach political leaders to some of the solutions because the nature of the differences is greater than the national meeting so it will communicate to partial solutions complete the the current election cycle. pointing to the existence of problems can not be solved related to the constitution he wrote in a critical stage in Iraq's history, and it serves the interests of some parties. http://alrayy.com/62789.htm

[Shredd] what is the reference to the US? Allawi is attending due to US pressure

[BondLady] no its basically saying allawi will go and state his demands in other words throw in a wrench no one can say its because he didn't show up for it ] he will show all right

[Shredd] and state his drama  walk out

[BondLady] but his demands mostly are unconstitional talibani has 8 points that can be done  an maliki is saying if u don't want the crisis to end and you don't want to work for the solution then just don't come so the ones who do want it to end can do something positive instead of constant fighting

[Shredd] noting that the president is able to be pressure on the political blocs in order to show the concessions because it propped from the United States.  so that line  propped from the US refers to the work we have done there

[BondLady] because we support mailikis gov

[Shredd] right?  our ally

[BondLady] yes basically

[Shredd] i see    maliki's Iraq  is his govt  ok

[BondLady] he is also the go between iran and iraq

[Shredd] yes, ok

[BondLady] because their mostly from the same basic tribe different countries but still have the same tribes in the other countries and not just one countries politic's in the middle east just affect just that country   like US, we are all us citizens  we make up many nationalities

[Shredd] right

[BondLady] but in the middle east theres many tribes  and they all belong to each country so what effects one would effect them all in surrounding countries

[Shredd] understood maliki's alliance is strong in ME  yes?

[BondLady] yes

[Shredd] you're the best!

[BondLady] he's also very popular in iraq to the people

[Shredd] i love how you understand the politics!!!

[BondLady] poll showed 77% of the people support him and think he's doing the best he can  ty

[Shredd] another question  back to the article you copied above...

[BondLady] yes go for it

[Shredd] what are your thoughts around the back and forth on the 000 plan

[BondLady] that i've already said many many times, recycled arts means they are working on it, communicating

[BondLady] i still feel the same

[DogzNova] early 2013 for the removal of the three zeros

[Shredd] DogzNova yes  ] i am thinkin the same so does bondlady i really think 2013 is the year for the NID  removing the 000 for the budget

[BondLady] yes

[Shredd] replacing the trashed dinar in these next two months

[BondLady] i had just said that before you came in  even talked about the budget aspect of it

[Shredd] what i don't believe is when everyone is saying "they are just trying to confuse us...to throw us off" when all it is is folks can't figure out the crazy swings in news even some of the "good ones" are saying this  but so glad that you don't BondLady  gives you credibility

[BondLady] ive said many times theres no smoke and mirrors which i've grown to hate that line there hasn't been any smoke in a few years just got to know how and what your reading

[Shredd] and you don't say this is our month or this is our quarter or this is our year....ty so much for staying solid and not selling out to some back stage deal  yes!!

[BondLady] you bet

[Shredd] seriously  i am really happy to be here  and with you .... no bs

[BondLady] were happy you are too shredders

[Shredd] no predictions

[BondLady] nope

[Shredd] no statements like "this is Iraqs coming out party"

[BondLady] but i do try to show a road map from the past to the future and sometimes those maps we have to follow are years old but if you throw that map out because it never happened yet then you throw out what you knew was going to happen

[Shredd] that actually makes sense!!!

[BondLady] just can't put a timex on iraqs wrist when they go by a sundial

[Shredd] right

[BondLady] well i did say the coming out party per the london convention and i did because thats true it was letting europe know iraqs ready to do buisness with the world

[Shredd] well, you didn't in the context i meant.... others say it implying rv

[BondLady] and get their suggestions as to what would make it easier for the world to come in and invest so it really was

[Shredd] correct, it was a roadshow a selling of their potential and progress

[BondLady] but it wasn't there currency coming out party like many spinned it

[Shredd] right  that's my point

[BondLady] i tried to make sure everyone realized that

[Shredd] and i appreciate and respect you for that

[BondLady] thats whats bad when you have many listening to many and not just staying the course

[DogzNova] quite the big puzzle being put together here  ] lots of pieces..

[Shredd] BondLady a great article about the infrastructure bill  saying next week

[BondLady] yeppers  loved it  and their saying its not goning to be put up for bargaining

[Shredd] Jawad Albzona: during the next parliamentary week will pass the law without any infrastructure requirements Date: 06/10/2012 14:14:18 Saturday Baghdad (news) .. Declared independent MP in the / National Alliance / Jawad Albzona, that during the week Parliamentary next pass a bill infrastructure without any conditions, including the pressure to approve the proposed amnesty law with him.

said Albzona in a statement (of the Agency news) on Saturday: The reason disable approval set of laws in the House of Representatives, is the political quota system and compatibility between the blocs, noting: that many of the laws when approving serve interested party, and others trying to pass on the expense to pass another law to their advantage, and thus became the laws are subject to outbidding political.

added independent MP in the National: There signs to the approval of a lot of political blocs, including the Kurdistan Alliance to vote on the infrastructure without the pressure to pass a general amnesty and without any conditions, during the week Parliamentary next, which begins next Tuesday, noting that the State of Law coalition refuses to pass the infrastructure with the general amnesty so that disruption of law first.

witnessing the House of Representatives, differences between the political blocs within the list per set important laws, Kagherar general amnesty and the formation of the election commission new and the Federal Court, infrastructure and parties law, and that certain laws deferred from the previous parliamentary session.http://www.ikhnews.com/news.php?action=view&id=58880

[BondLady] its to vote for it because its the right thing to do for iraq and the people

[Shredd] yes the right thing to do

[BondLady] but don't try to drag the amnesty law or any other law into it to try to achieve what others want, at the risk of losing this law the peole will be watching this and who fights it and when that happens they hold grudges for 100's of years

[Shredd] so, infrastructure and amnesty law get those done seems hcl is close too

[BondLady] its all close to happening

[Shredd] Daini likely to pass a general amnesty and legal infrastructure in one batch BAGHDAD - babysit - suggested the Iraqi List MP Nahida Daini to be voted on a general amnesty and legal infrastructure in a single batch, stressing that most of the laws passed by consensus through a political deal since the beginning of the formation of the government until now.

The Daini told news public opinion (and babysit): "The law of infrastructure which is supported by state law and the amnesty law which is supported by the Sadrist bloc and Iraq will not be voted upon only that be together at once," arguing that the amnesty will not pass unless There is an equivalent law convince the other party to vote on it.

" Daini added that "since the beginning of the formation of the government, so far, most of the laws passed by consensus through a political deal."http://alrayy.com/62567.htm

[BondLady] everything this 9 years has waited for article 140, hcl ,ch 7 and monetary change what messed the whole thing up from happening for over 2 years was even trying to make the goi a power sharing gov clearly they don't and won't share

[Shredd] saw that great majority govt article

[BondLady] yes and if the national conference fails then it should move to majority gov many want to pass laws but the quota system stops that blocs who want stuff so they hold out and shoot down important stuff for there own selfish greedy wants that would stop that out of 100% voting

[Shredd] so, if natl conf fails, majority govt

[BondLady] 51 % would be a majority vote

[Shredd] faster progress

[BondLady] ending in passing many many laws by majority so much faster

[Shredd] yes true democracy

[BondLady] kick laws out back to back everyday instead of well we can't get along on this one, throw it to the bottom for another 5 years

[Shredd] so majority of who attends? and no quorums

[BondLady] yep shredd, if they don't show up for quorum too bad they lost there chance to have a voice per the law being voted on

[Shredd] thats what i was thinking....bring it on

[BondLady] yup thats the way i've been seeing it happen for 2 years is why i kept saying majority was the only way i could see them moving forward power sharing was such bs in the 1st place now 50 years down the road

[grashopa] so....the 2/3 would apply to the attending members, not the full membership ??

[BondLady] and a new set of generations yes you bet ] but now heck no was not a good thing the US came up with, power sharing

[reohomespa] BondLady -- power sharing with a bunch of fighting for no reason is a ticket for disaster anyway

[BondLady] they obviously don't know the middle east as well as they acted like they did so true reo

[Shredd] i wonder if infrastructure law being passed will trigger movement

[BondLady] if they would just do whats best for the people and the country but they can't greed and power and selfishness drives them almost to the point, the mind set they have, you can almost make allowances for their behavior they were raised this way generation after generation for 1000's of years new blood and new iraq will change that once these guys have all died off

[BondLady] so until that time comes they need just one leader and one 2nd in command on down the line or iraq just can't grow

[Shredd] so true

[BondLady] they have already said next elections will not be this power sharing stuff

[Shredd] a new era for iraq after these elections

[BondLady] hope so  thank you

BLAINO POST, 6 OCTOBER


Oct 6 1:18 PM [HisBlessed] Blaino: SATURDAY MORNING "STUFF"::::::::::: PARLIAMINT IS STILL OUT (EXPECTED) AND THE SAME OLE, SAME OLE STUFF REMAINS UP IN THE AIR IT SEEMS....

WILL SOMEONE TURN UP THE GRAVITY OVER THERE.... GET THIS JUNK DOWN AND SETTLED! PLEASE!!?? ANYWAY, WE ARE ALL WAITING ... WE ARE GOOD AT THAT.... WELL PRACTISED

ANYWAY! OK, MARTIN "I'M HERE TO GET YOU OUT OF CHAP 7" KOBLER IS CONTINUING TO GENTLY PUSH THESE PEOPLE TOWARD SOME COMPROMISE TO GET HIS CHALLENGE COMPLETED. WE SHALL SEE IF HE OVERWHELMS THEM AND GETS THEM MOVING ALONG ... OR SHATTERS HIMSELF AGAINST THEIR STONEY AND OFTEN STONEAGE WAYS.... 
THE NATIONAL MEETING "MAY" BE HELD MORE TOWARDS THE MIDDLE OF THE MONTH....M HAS ASKED THE SUNNI LEADERSHIP TO 'NOMINATE' SOME PEOPLE FOR THE MINISTRY OF DEFENSE, STATING THAT 3 NAMES ARE EXPECTED TO BE NOMINATED, AND ONE OF THESE WILL BE CHOSEN.

WE WERE INFORMED ABOUT NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR THAT THESE LAST 2 MINISTERS WERE QUIETLY SELECTED AND WERE WORKING ....

SO, WERE THESE UN-ANNOUNCED GUYS MERELY "PLACE HOLDERS" OR HAS THE SHIFTING OF POWER FORCED NEW CANDIDATES MORE ACCEPTABLE TO THE POWERS ON THE RISE TO BE CHOSEN?

Oct 6 1:37 PM [target] [11:49:27 AM] [Blaino] THE ANSWERS TO THESE AND OTHER QUESTIONS MAY BE FORTHCOMING IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TEN DAYS....

ON ANOTHER TOPIC... THE "LIFTING", "REMOVAL" AND/OR "CUTTING OFF" THE 3 ZEROS IS NOW CLEARLY ALL ABOUT THE REMOVAL (FROM THE STREET) OF THESE LARGE QUANTITY NOTES.... 5K, 10K, 25K....

AND HAS BEEN DIVORCED FROM A CONNECTION TO THE 'RATE'.... OF THE EXCHANGE FOR THE IQD. OH WHAT A RELIEF IT IS TO FINALLY GET CLARITY ON THAT ISSUE,

AND PERHAPS BE FINALLY FREE OF THE WHINNING AND DOOM-CASTING OF ALL THE GREAT UNWASHED MASSES WHO CONTINUALLY PROGNOSTICATE DISASTER!

 WEIRD HOW THEY STAY INVOLVED... WHILE TRYING TO ASSURE ALL OF US THAT WE WILL NOT SEE ANY SIGNIFICANT DEVELOPMENT IN THE RATE! HUMMMM....

AS THE RATE REACHES THE $1 ZONE, THESE GIANTS WILL QUICKLY VANISH... MOST INTO THE FURNACE AND SOME FEW REMAINING FOR YEARS IN AN UNDERGROUND KIND OF CIRCULATION MUCH AS OUR OWN $1000 NOTE WHICH IS STILL LEGAL TENDER. ONCE THESE NOTES HIT THE BANKS... POOF!

 THERE IS A STANDING RETIREMENT ORDER FOR THEM AS THERE WILL BE IN IRAQ FOR THE BIG NOTES WHEN THE RATE CLIMBS. OUR CONCERN IS THE RATE "CHANGE"

.... AND THE RATE OF GROWTH IN THAT VALUE OVER TIME. NEWBIES PROBABLY DON'T KNOW THAT THE RATE IS ALREADY UP ABOUT 46% SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THESE NOTES. "BACK IN THE DAY" ONE COULD BUY A MIL FOR ABOUT $450 - $550 OR SO.... 8 AND 9 YEARS AGO.

Oct 6 1:43 PM [leaderbabs] I had a business partner and fellow dinarian ask his banker about purchasing dinar with his roth funds and was told that the dinar is illegal and anyone knwon dealing with dinar should call the police. Boy are these bankers going to be pissed off when this revalues!!

BLUWOLF CHAT, 6 OCTOBER

[wolverine7] bluwolf I was about to sign off, but before I go, been hearing talk again that the VND go ahead and go because they are tired of waiting on the dinar and all the trouble over there???

[bluwolf] wolverine7 ALL CURRENCIES SHALL COME OUT AT THE SAME TIME,,NO DOUBLE DIPPING PERIOD

[Ribeye] jack1977 with name like jack, i have to check before huggin'! :superlachen:

[bluwolf] Ribeye YOU WOULDN'T SURVIVE IN P.R. HERE WE ALL HUG.

[barb] Ribeye cautious... we are all hugable

[Ribeye] barb yes, i have no phobia against 'man-huggin'! roflmao

[bluwolf] FOLKS ANYTHING RELATED TO THE DINAR AND IT'S OUTCOME I WILL NOT SPEAK OF AT THIS TIME.  SORRY  JUST BE CAREFUL THERE WILL BE A LOT OF MISINFORMATION COMING OUT

[chrivers] bluwolf Hola friend!!! :)

[bluwolf] chrivers HOLA

[PiratesMom] bluwolf hello sweet sir... :bighug:

[bluwolf] PiratesMom HI

[Ribeye] bluwolf can you put to rest any of rumors tonight?

[bluwolf] Ribeye LIKE WHAT?

[ModelWoman] bluwolf So you still feeling it's close? Need money for medical expenses desperately.

[bluwolf] ModelWoman HE NEVERS COMES IN LATE

[DinarAddict] bluwolf you got a date and rate for us lol

[bluwolf] DinarAddict ARE YOU KIDDING ME   SERIOUSLY

[DinarAddict] bluwolf yes I was kidding

[bluwolf] OK

[Andrin] Bluwolf good evening sir! How do you think your Giants will do against the Reds in the NLDS>>

[bluwolf] Andrin MORE OR LESS EVEN

[ModelWoman] bluwolf Praise God! I'm giving Him the praise for your daughter too! That was just awesome news!!!

[bluwolf] ModelWoman TY

[DinarAddict] bluwolf loosen up a little have some fun do some kidding its good for the soul

[bluwolf] DinarAddict I DO THAT WHEN I GRAB A DRINK, HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN A WHILE

[musiccitylady] Do we know what we know that we don't know yet?

[bluwolf] musiccitylady WE DO

[DinarAddict] bluwolf I have resigned myself to the fact the rv will happen in its own time

[bluwolf] DinarAddict GODS TIME

[mkay] so was the bank story from this afternoon found to be untrue?

[bluwolf] mkay MAY YOU GIVE ME A UPDATE

[DrRod] bluwolf Hola mi hermano, Hope you are well. Always a pleasure to see you.

[bluwolf] DrRod SAME HERE

[chrivers] bluwolf well a glass of wine neverhurt anyone... Mine is chilling, not ready yet!! :) I having a week long birthday celebration!! lol til next Thursday...

[bluwolf] chrivers ENJOY DON'T FORGET THE CHEESE

[glonadark] bluwolf How is your daughter now? She has been remembered in prayer

[bluwolf] glonadark DOING VERY WELL, THANK YOU

[mkay] bluwolf I will try...what I remember...someone named elanor came in with bank story from someone else.......bank hhad called person...said they had rv rate..and would spend rest of friday teaching emplyees about rv....and would give more news after lunch

[bluwolf] mkay WELL EVEN THOUGH YOU CANNOT CONFIRM THAT, SIMILAR THOUGHTS HAVE BEEN SAID TODAY, FACT IS ALL ARE GETTING READY

[buddydog] bluwolf NOW that will send people dancing in the streets, bluwolf , Thanks

[bluwolf] GOD DID SAY NOW

[Ribeye] bluwolf what concerns me is there is no time in Heaven and I don't know if God has a watch!! lol

[bluwolf] Ribeye HE DOES NOT NEED ONE FOR HE CONTROLS ALL TIMES, NOTHING SHALL MOVE IF HE DOES NOT GIVE THE COMMAND

[Princess M] Good Night all hope tomorrow brings more information on our investment

[bluwolf] Princess M GN

[woodguy 6250] nothing but lies , BS and greed on this ride, time to get off

[bluwolf] woodguy 6250 DO YOU NEED FOR US TO PRAY FOR YOU

[mkay] woodguy 6250 we are not greedy and bs..eee

[woodguy 6250] mkay not saying ones on here meaning PTB

[woodguy 6250] get tired of them playing us

[bluwolf] woodguy 6250 THEY WILL BE GONE

[pastored] hello to bluwolf

[bluwolf] pastored HI

[chrivers] bluwolf I believe so!! Some need a lil faith talk sometimes...

[bluwolf] chrivers CORRECT

[woodguy 6250] to many good people in here that don't deserve this bs that we are being fed week in and week out

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] woodguy 6250 Remember, you are running a marathon here, not a sprint. Treat this as a marathon and you'll be fine. Treat this as a sprint and you'll gas out and give up.

[jojo] could I please get pray for my bro-in-law who had a kidney removed and still has cancer on his spine and in his left lung? Thank u all in advance

[bluwolf] LORD WE ALL KNOW THAT WHEN THE TIME IS NEAR THAT SOME WILL FEEL DISCOUARGED AND WITH NO HOPE FOR THE BLESSINGS TO COME. WE ALL KNOW THAT IT IS THEN THAT WE SHALL BE MORE POWERFUL. WE ASK WISDOM TO THOSE THAT FEEL THAT WAY. CURE THEM FROM THE EVILS PATH, ENCOURAGE THEM AND GUIDE THEM TO THEIR BLESSINGS, CAST OFF ALL NEGATIVE THOUGHTS FROM ALL AND SHOW THEM YOUR NORTHERN LIGHT.. AMEN

[Ribeye] jojo Dear Lord, we ask that you show yourself to jojo and her brother-in-law and all the family and reassure them that You have already won all our battles with the sacrifice of our savior, Jesus. let his healing be their testimony to Your omnipotence! Thank you, Jesus, for loving us. Amen

[bluwolf] JOJO I PRAY AND DECLARE HEALTH OVER YOUR FAMILY, BE BLESSED AND CONFIDE IN OUR JESUS

[jojo] could I please get pray for my bro-in-law who had a kidney removed and still has cancer on his spine and in his left lung? Thank u all in advance

[woodguy 6250] this is not a game, it’s peoples’ lives, families’ lives and all the PTB care is how much they can make before they let it RV and make some more.

[bluwolf] woodguy 6250 THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF EVIL IS SENDING AND CASTING THEM OFF,DOING THE OPPOSITE WILL NOT DO ANYTHING

[bluwolf] LAST THOUGHTS

REMEMBER IT SHALL APPEAR LIKE A THIEF IN THE SILENCE OF THE NIGHT

CAREFUL OF THE MISINFORMATION THAT SHALL ARISE

NOTHING HAS CHANGED

[woodguy 6250] thank you all, just gets hard to stay up all the time. Great to know that people like you all are here. God Bless you all.

[Remi8] woodguy 6250 God bless you --- He is guiding us all through this!!!!

[Retchie08] woodguy 6250 .. Be BLessed too My Brother & Hang in Here with Us. We Need Each Other.

[bluwolf] WELL I GOT TO GO NOW, GOOD NIGHT AND GOD BLESS

[Remi8] bluwolf Good Night!!! Thank you for visiting the castle !!!! God bless you always!!!!

[WCW] bluwolf come back sir and I hope we are rich when u do bro.

[goddess] Thank you for coming in bluwolf

[bluwolf] YW

[chrivers] WCW My thoughts too!! Rich in pocket like we are rich in spirit!!

[bluwolf] chrivers BOTH SHALL BE ACCOMPLISHED IN A FEW

[WCW] chrivers yes

[bluwolf] GOOD NIGHT