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Sunday, September 9, 2012

VIC CHAT, 9 SEPT


[~SpiritualWarrior] Awesome777 Much of what has and is happening "behind the scenes" was intended - for our safety and welfare - to be confidential. As often happens, information leaks out and those carrying such into "our community" can't distinguish between that which can harm us from that which is harmless. In our pursuit for "intel," I believe we have become our own worst enemies. There are names and events that have surfaced in print that were NEVER intended to be known... even when all is said and done. We're tired, frustrated and demand to know what's going on. I believe a handful of individuals, in their selfish pursuit of personal fame, have severlely and adversely influenced the intended outcome. Yet another thought to ponder...

[Awesome777] ~SpiritualWarrior true, you got me for a second, cause I thought for a moment you were referring to my post and what I had said

[~SpiritualWarrior] Awesome777 Indirectly, I did... everyone that comes in here is looking for the latest "intel." Some sites share stuff that shouldn't get out. Others, lacking anything, will fabricate... lending iteself to confusion on top of frustration.
[vic1tgk] ~SpiritualWarrior very well said!!!

[vic1tgk] The circumference is obviously EXPANDED!!!

[.gypsymama] vic1tgk (((((((((((((((((((((TACKLE HUGS )))))))))))))))))))

 [vic1tgk] .gypsymama Thank you... The CC tonight will be at a HIGH VOLTAGE...LEVEL! No PUN... All tha Think Al-Heshemi...will be brought to the gallows... FORGET ABOUT IT!!!

[vic1tgk] He has Clout and is V/P...of IRAQ!!! MUCH HIGHER Stand than MALIKI!!!

[vic1tgk] Also, He Will and can be PARDONED! IF NEED BE... The IMUNITY LAW is AVAIL, However... since Maliki is not seated his GOI...Properly... HE is More in TROUBLE...remember...he said on TV that he had files for 3 years! SHAME...SHAME... Guilty by association? Get this... The LID is to blown OFF here in the NEXT few days!!! IRAQ... has to Declare... IRANIAN NUCLEAR WASTE...hidden in IRAQ!!!

[.~dinarmama7] vic1tgk Sweet tea?

[vic1tgk] .~dinarmama7 can I have that ToGO...

[~SpiritualWarrior] vic1tgk lol

[vic1tgk] ~SpiritualWarrior LISTEN to CALL... That is all i can say!!! GREAT NEWS!!!

[.~dinarmama7] vic1tgk Here you go. Just keep the glass. We have a CE coming, will buy a new one.

[vic1tgk] .~dinarmama7 Thanx... CRYSTAL UPON RETURN!!!

[vic1tgk] .~dinarmama7 ~SpiritualWarrior .gypsymama THE MODS...IN THIS HOUSE, ROCK!!! LOVE and RESPECT to ALL!!!

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 9 SEPT

9-9-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   THEY CAN'T EMERGE FROM CHAPTER 7 UNLESS WE HAVE A RV...THEY MUST HAVE A INTERNATIONAL RECOGNIZED CURRENCY AND BECOME FULL MEMBER OF THE WTO.  

9-9-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   We are in grand shape right now. This thing is going good for us. Maliki may not be able to resist the urge to engage in world class "jack***ry" - in which case...he'll be gone soon. This is not an uncommon sentiment among the "informed."

9-9-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   ALL DIALOG YESTERDAY AND TODAY ABOUT MEETINGS AND RESULTS OF MEETING ALL SHOW JUST HOW MUCH WORK STILL HAS TO BE DONE TO PREPARE EACH ISSUE FOR COMPLETION UPON TALIBANI’S UPCOMING RETURN.  I TRUELY THINK FINALIZING THINGS WHEN HE RETURNS WILL BE VERY FAST AND EVEN THOUGH THERE SOUND LIKE A LOT TO GET SETTLED MOST ARE MINOR COMPARED TO JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO. 

9-9-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   I believe a RV is coming but not due to numbers referenced in their budget.  Iraq does not need to RV to open the budget. 

9-9-2012   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    The pressure is getting turned back on Maliki. He has had since before Ramadan and up until now to get things done – and hasn’t (thus far). The people aren’t fooled and are getting pretty “amped up” over the whole “crisis mess”, which is just a pretty way to say Maliki still isn’t doing what he said he would.

9-9-2012  Intel Guru BWM    the best thing I can say about ALL this is this...WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR SURE...AND, I CAN'T RULE OUT THIS OCCURRING ANYTIME NOW...SO I CAN SAY THERE IS NOTHING TO BE DOWN ABOUT... JUST MORE TESTING OF OUR PATIENCE.

CARELLO, MOUNTAINMAN, AUSTIN, PHOENIX POST, 9 SEPT

9-9-2012 Carrello: USA supports Talabani to end crisis. "The United States has expressed U.S. willingness to resolve the current problems and the dismantling of the crises facing its development and progress, with new President Talabani confirmed to resolve differences and outstanding issues between the political blocs through the Constitution and dialogue. Talabani had received, on Saturday, at his residence in Germany and high-level U.S. delegation. The delegation conveyed the greetings and best wishes of the U.S. administration of President Talabani health and a speedy recovery and a full and speedy return to Iraq to the official duties and make diligent efforts to resolve outstanding issues between the federal government and the Kurdistan Regional Government, especially to resolve HCL and other issues."

9-9-2012 Mountainman: Great news today about the Defense Minister getting picked tomorrow, Erbil will be passed and a NC held.  If this happens it's great news for the GOI and all of us. There are many rumors that a big change is coming with the global monetary system and that the IQD is involved.  At this point it seems we have a convergence between articles and rumors both showing progress and pointing to this being over in the near future and before the end of 2012 for sure.  This is great news for us all imho.

9-9-2012 Austin-Powers-For-PM:  I'm thinking that since Maliki and his SLC goons control a large section of the federal judiciary in Iraq, this is a last ditch attempt by him to stir the pot and create an artifical crisis. Why in heck would you let this come out a few days before the National Conference unless you really want to muck things up?

9-9-2012 Phoenix3333: Iraq's fugitive Vice President Hashemi, sentenced to hang. Iraq's fugitive Vice President Hashemi, a top critic of Prime Minister Maliki, was convicted of murder Sunday and sentenced to death by hanging, in a decision likely to renew political tensions. Hashemi, tried in absentia, has dismissed all charges against him as politically motivated. The trial for the murder of a lawyer and a brigadier general, which began in May, covered the first of around 150 charges levelled against Hashemi, who has been accused of running a death squad, and his bodyguards. A judge at one point interrupted, warning the defence lawyer: You are attacking the judicial authority and you will be held responsible if you continue.

CBI takes position of silence on CBI Act; Finance Committee requests parties to stop economic objections in the press and take final position, 9 SEPT


CBI takes position of silence on CBI Act; Finance Committee requests parties to stop economic objections in the press and take final position

Date: 2012-09-09 11: 36: 58 Sunday
CBI Act process delete zeros to stop economic objections to the project
Baghdad (News) … Member of the Finance Committee/National Alliance MP Abdul Hussein Al-yasiri,/the Central Bank cautiously question delete zeros of the Iraqi currency, the large economic objections to this project.
He said Al-yasiri (News Agency news) on Sunday: that the deadline for the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency was agreed at the beginning (2013), the Central Bank and retreat to process time is unknown because of the objections of some economists of a collapse in the national currency.
He added: to stop information campaign for the deletion of zeros to make the Central Bank takes the position of silence about the process, and called on the Federal Government and the Ministry of finance and the Central Bank to take a final position of delete zeros and time information to replace the currency to reduce frauds that have spread dramatically.
Confirmed: that the deletion of zeros from the currency would reduce the money supply and prevent Iraq from a State with density and mass market transactions in cash to block more credit and smaller.
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SWFG, BGG, TRINITY, LORICBWM, KAPERONI, DR.TODD & BLUWOLF POST, 9 SEPT

9-9-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy: I believe a RV is coming but not due to numbers referenced in their budget.  Iraq does not need to RV to open the budget. 

9-9-2012   Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    The pressure is getting turned back on Maliki. He has had since before Ramadan and up until now to get things done – and hasn’t (thus far). The people aren’t fooled and are getting pretty “amped up” over the whole “crisis mess”, which is just a pretty way to say Maliki still isn’t doing what he said he would.


9-9-2012 TrinityeXchange: "The U.S. delegation stressed U.S. support for the Iraqi people in order to problem-solving current and dismantle all the crises that stand in the progress and development of Iraq, wishing the success of all efforts, including the great efforts made by President Talabani." This is exactly what they did with their "private" meeting with maliki. The United States delegation just opened up the freeway for Talabani to drive through and complete the implementation of the agreements. We are looking at some good days ahead my friends. Some very good days.

9-9-2012 LoriC: Great news this morning!!  Ministers have been submitted for approval, smart cards are going to be introduced and Maliki is being forced to implement the reforms before anyone will even think about having a National Meeting and if he doesn't they are going to withdraw the confidence from him.  That pressure is great news for us and with Talabani returning soon this all could fall into place early next week, possibly as soon as tomorrow.

9-9-2012 BWM: I don't usually get into this much detail but real quickly I'll go over some "dates" ppl are looking at and discussing. Ok, dates ppl have been discussing Sept 11/12, before 17/18, and after 17/18. So let's look at those and see the issues with each one. The 11th & 12th: Many would like you to believe that Talabani will show up for a meeting this week they will term a "national meeting" and announce the ministers everything is solved. Some say this will occur on the 11th. Now consider this would they actually do this on 9/11? Hard to say because the issues that would be considered with this would this be "honoring" the attacks, would it be "detrimental" to honoring the attacks. Now, the next issue is how can they have conference in London on the 17th and 18th without having a currency with any value? After all they will be speaking on the economy and the future of Iraq. Need we be reminded last year when Shabibi came to Washington and talked on "rebuilding Iraq" and ppl sitting in the audience got to ask really cool questions and all and still they have toilet paper for money? So some say they will "plan" at the conference and then make the big announcement. So what's the problem with ALL this discussion? ALL these discussions lead you to believe that Iraq will actually have some say in the actual determination of the date. So if you believe in the gotta happen before after conference you would tend to believe that Iraq has been holding this up all along which from all the discussions I have had lead me to believe is not the case. Again, Iraq will make their announcements and ministers will show up and blah blah blah articles will finally show the "truth hasset them free" but this is AFTER the real decision to make this occur. We've been told how much Shabibi "cares" about his country. IF Iraq had control of this he could have pulled the switch a long time ago and just gotten ppl to take names and kick butt. The "bad ppl" battle to me is more about grasping at control of the "new" economy. The Chinese don't want the dollar. The BRICS don't want the petrodollar. New countries are signing on daily to establish a new reserve currency. There is a LOT going on that has nothing to do with Iraq. The best thing I can say about ALL this is this WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FOR SURE AND I CAN'T RULE OUT THIS OCCURRING ANYTIME NOW.



9-9-2012 Kaperoni: My facts come from CBI symposiums held in Iraq, as well as the SIGIR report issued just this last April where they stated the dinar was about to rise in value to just less than the USD. They did not say lop. The word redenomination is misconstrued as a bad thing when in fact, that is what they are doing. By shear definition of changing from a larger currency to a smaller currency, that is a redenomination. That is not the issue. The issue is what is Iraq going to do with the old 3 zero notes? In this case, we believe they will honor at face value.

9-9-2012 Dr. Todd: The banks and certain groups related to banks are in Levels 1 and 2. Level 3 and the individuals that are involved there, I think theirs will be closer to 5, but something over 3.5. That's probably. I think there is a high probability that it will be announced before the end of this month. I can't see how it can hold past the middle of October at the latest.

9-9-2012 Bluwolf: WE ARE THERE FOLKS. THE WHEN I DO NOT KNOW. IT IS THE WHY THAT I DO KNOW AND THAT WHY HAS BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.

Finance Committee affirming the receipt of the draft budget for next year and that the deletion of zeros will lead to an economic problem , 9 sept

Finance Committee affirming the receipt of the draft budget for next year and that the deletion of zeros will lead to an economic problem 
[Baghdad - where] 

Parliamentary Finance Committee confirmed not received a draft budget that next year from the government. 

The deputy chairman of the Committee Ahmed Faizullah told all of Iraq [where] today that "allocations Supreme Judicial Council as well as other ministries are identified through meeting them and agree on those customizations," adding that "the budget is based on the actual needs of the annual institutions" . 

 And on the deletion of zeros from the local currency Faizullah said that "the deletion of zeros will not create an economic problem or financial or monetary and some magnifies the issue out of proportion it's just the process of switching the currency which pertain to all Iraqis, and it may take time to get used to people about it." 

 He added that "printing the new currency cost amounts billions Is the government willing to bear the costs? They must be calculated financial cooperation with the central bank needs from the currency because the Iraqi economy is based on the Cache and this is sound because any financial system developed for Aataaml is that instruments and credit cards to ratio 1 percent of transactions in Iraq. " 


 Faizullah stressed the need not to "make way for either currency manipulators who take advantage of the currency switch." 

He pointed out that "there is mutual accusations on this subject but it must be for the country and the means and possibilities to investigate abusive who manipulate things and we do not control our financial or commercial Aouchaabah and even in the Kurdistan region and this encourages lawlessness market."

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Parliamentary Finance: Central Bank lingered process of deletion of zeros to stop the objections of economists on the project , 9 sept

Parliamentary Finance: Central Bank lingered process of deletion of zeros to stop the objections of economists on the project   

Baghdad (news) ..  Male member of the Finance Committee MP / National Alliance / Abdul Hussein al-Yasiri, the central bank lingered cause the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency, the large number of economists objections to this project. 


 Yasiri said (of the Agency news) on Sunday: The deadline for the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency was agreed at the beginning (2013), but the central bank dropped and for the process to time is unknown because of the objections of some economists of a possible 


collapse in the national currency.

 He added: stop media campaign regarding the removal of zeros to make the central bank to 


take the position of silence about the process, calling for the federal government and the 

Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank to take a final position of the process of deletion of zeros and determine given time to replace the currency to reduce fraud that has spread dramatically. 

And confirmed: that the deletion of zeros from the currency will reduce the money supply and prevent Iraq from a country with a density and mass of large cash transactions to a mass market more credit and smaller. 

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