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Tuesday, September 4, 2012

MICHIGANDER CHAT, 4 SEPT

Michigander0131 Articles and Chat 9/4/12 9:00 PM edt

[michigander0131] Jubouri collects 50 signatures to investigate transactions of the Central Bank 04/09/2012 09:35 BAGHDAD / Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network - A member of the Finance Committee and MP for the coalition of state law Haitham al-Jubouri for collected signatures 50 MPs to demand the formation of an investigative committee dealings central bank, stressing Trath submitting to the presidency of the parliament waiting for the outcome of the work of the Truth. Jubouri said for (Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network)   http://www.imn.iq/news/view.15120/


[michigander0131] boy -o-boy this malliki just will not give up


[michigander0131] will do anything to keep delaying the RV


[Agent 007] michigander0131 well he learned from us, didn't he?    
[michigander0131] 04/09/2012 Baghdad (news) .. likely economic advisor to the Prime Minister Hussain Al-Anbuge, the implementation of the project to delete the three zeroes from the national currency in early (2015) because it is an important project and needs for a period of time sufficient and appropriate security conditions for its application. 
http://www.ikhnews.com/news.php?action=view&id=54328


[michigander0131] another good one from his goons
[nano36] I think we will see some smoke coming out before it happens , I hope it is smoke

    
[michigander0131] oh i believe it will be done before 2015 for sure/they will get malliki 

under control sooner or later/but untill then he will continue to stall it

[michigander0131] 04/09/2012 Babinaoz - agencies: agency said (UR) it's got a very important information about the details of the upcoming visit of the U.S. delegation to Iraq. The sources said the task in the Prime Minister's Office said that "al-Maliki briefed on an electronic message sent by the U.S. government this morning indicates the work program of the U.S. delegation, which will be headed by U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden." The sources said that "the U.S. delegation will present a road map for ending the conflict between the political blocs and solve the outstanding problem of laws, especially the oil and gas law and to break the ice between Allawi and al-Maliki and Barzani." The sources said the task and wide access to that "Washington is worried about the continuing high rates of commercial cooperation between Iraq and Iran, and increasing interference in internal Iraqi affairs." And revealed that "Biden postponed his visit until the return of President Jalal Talabani, because he believes that the key to the solution in Iraq and that the balanced and the most acceptable and that would solve the crisis."
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[michigander0131] so biden is waiting for tallibani too
[michigander0131] Economic Commission accuses the government of delaying important laws affecting citizens Tuesday, September 4, 2012The House of Representatives passed a lot of important decisions the previous cycle Aln government did not work out, including the laws of customs tariffs and consumer protection and antitrust in addition to Law No. 13 average in 2006 for investment." He explained that "the application of the Consumer Protection Act and a national duty, in addition to that Iraq today is willing to enter the World Trade Organization and can not have that without the application of the customs tariff law."  http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.albaghdadianews.com/politics/item/16004-Akkvl%25D8%25A9-AkAjbZHADn%25D8%25A9-bbmL-AkGKNL%25D8%25A9-bagnE-jNAlnl-LmL%25D8%25A9-bLYO-AkLNAZl.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%25D8%25A7%25D9%2584%25D8%25B9%25D8%25B1%25D8%25A7%25D9%2582%2B%25D9%2584%25D9%2585%25D9%2586%25D8%25B8%25D9%2585%25D8%25A9%2B%25D8%25A7%25D9%2584%25D8%25AA%25D8%25AC%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1%25D8%25A9%2B%25D8%25A7%25D9%2584%25D8%25B9%25D8%25A7%25D9%2584%25D9%2585%25D9%258A%25D8%25A9%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26tbs%3Dqdr:d%26prmd%3Dimvns&sa=X&ei=i5NGUNeJApL_qAH-n4CgCg&ved=0CEkQ7gEwAg
[michigander0131] sandinar because he knows that they are not fully ready to sit down yet/IMO
[michigander0131] at least some commisions are speaking up about the important laws that still need to be passed
[Tman33] some say tallibani has been back for 2weeks
[michigander0131] Tman33 hmmmm ok
[michigander0131] i dont believe that at all/but JMO
[Tman33] michigander0131 is getting to the point you do not know who to beleve
[michigander0131] yes its up to each and everyone to try and deciefer/unfortunantly
[michigander0131] 01/09/2012 11: 10 1 September Baghdad (aknews) – the Parliamentary Commission of economy and investment on condition Iraq's accession to the WTO is an application of the customs tariff law, which deferred by the Government for the indefinite. Federal Trade Ministry said last year that Iraq is working on obtaining permanent membership of WTO will complicate the Iraqi economy unless Iraqi economic legislation with controls on accession to WTO. 
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aknews.com%2Far%2Faknews%2F2%2F324057%2F
[michigander0131] this article is from the 1st but states the tariff law is definantly a requirment for WTO assesion. and they have postponed the tariffs indefinantly
[michigander0131] they really have no idea how to run a country/they have neaver had too
[michigander0131] always had someone telling them what to do
[Tman33] michigander0131 seems like somebody needs to or this could drag on for ever
[michigander0131] well the US has tried and is going to try again to lay out a road map for the/but when you have Iran telling the PM what he can or cant do its pretty hard to make a succesfull government let alone try and improve a whole country
[michigander0131] and shabbibi will not let iran and or malliki strip the country of their riches
[Tman33] michigander0131 seems like maliki wants to walk in some of the footsteps of saddam
[sandinar] Tman33 that's ok we can haul him out of a hole he is hiding in as we did Saddam
[michigander0131] Tman33 yes he does and he is
[michigander0131] sandinar so true 
[Tman33] sandinar its pretty bad that he keeps doing things to postpone this and causing all the bad conditions for the people of iraq
[michigander0131] Tman33 yes it is but i really believe that the people will up rise sooner or later/but am hoping they can reign him in before that happens
[Tman33] michigander0131 i believe you are absolutely correct that is my thoughts also.
[Tman33] michigander0131 if something does not happen soon its not for of
[michigander0131] well i am hoping that biden waiting for tallibani might have some significance
[michigander0131] well everyone have a good night and keep the faith
[Agent 007] wave  michigander0131
[nano36] michigander0131 wave blow-kiss

STRYKER CHAT, PART 1, 4 SEPT

Here is Stryker's breakdown on this article for anyone that's interested:

http://www.alsabaah.com/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=34237    Link To Full Article

OK FOLKS, THIS ONE IS LONG BUT LET’S SEE IF IT HAS ANYTHING TO ADD OR UNCOVER TO OUR ALREADY CONFUSING DELETION OF THE ZEROS SUBJECT….

IT LOOKS LIKE ANOTHER ROUND TABLE FULL OF EXPERTS THAT WAS ORGANIZED BY THE STRATEGIC STUDIES TOOK PLACE, SEE HERE;

**** opened the round table organized by the Center for Strategic Studies

IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS MORE THAN JUST ONE WAY OF LOOKING AT THE DELETION OF THE ZEROS AS YOU CAN TELL BY THIS STATEMENT;

**** Economic Section Multi file deletion of zeros….. MULTI FILE…
  WHICH THEY SEEM TO BE LOOKING HARD TO SEE IF THEY CAN UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THESE DELETION OF ZERO FILES WILL MAKE ON THE ECONOMY;

**** which is the richest insights

**** and analyzes the value

**** and put points on the letters in decoding

AND IT IS CONFUSING TO THEM, AS IT IS TO US;

**** choking on a lack of understanding subject

LISTEN, I BELIEVE THEY ARE OVER THEIR HEADS WITH THESE FILES BECAUSE OF THEIR LACK OF ECONOMIC UNDERSTANDING, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IS IN DR. SHABIBI’S MIND TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HE HAS PLANNED IMO.

IN THIS NEXT PARAGRAPH, YOU SEE THAT THEY STILL NEED LAWS THRU LEGISLATION THAT NEEDS COMPLETED, WE HAVE READ THIS OVER AND OVER IN THE LAST YEAR PLUS….BUT WE ALSO KNOW THRU ARTICLES THAT THE LAWS ARE READY FOR PARLIAMENT…

**** a group of experts who participated in this table to the fact that such an important decision and dangerous at the core of the economic problem needs to law and legislation to ensure not falling

I THINK THE LAWS ARE READY TO BE VOTED ON AS SOON AS THE POLITICAL ISSUES ARE SOLVED, THEN THE RV IS READY TO GO….

HERE IT SEEMS SHABIBI IS SPELLING IT OUT FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY HAVEN’T HAD IN THE PAST SEMINARS AND THEY ARE READY TO GO;

**** For the first time***in the most if not all ***seminars previous****economic converge policies have monetary and fiscal table….. SEE WHAT I MEAN?...

Maliki’s hours are numbered….Implement or Get Out of the Way

….OK, I FIND THIS INTERESTING AND YOU SHOULD TOO FURTHER PROOF THAT THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING NOW;

**** understanding in order to solve the problem and thus contributing to the distance from the potential risks that may accompany

BUT THEY STILL ARE NOT GOING TO TELL FOR SURE

**** the process of change or raise zeros. CHANGE OR RAISE ZEROS….

**** Dr. Mohammed Saleh historical overview of money and commitments as a prelude to clarify participants had enriched everyone of the importance….

**** of lifting of the zeroes LIFTING THE ZEROS

OK, I’LL BREAK THIS DOWN

“CHANGE OR RAISE ZEROS”….“LIFTING THE ZEROS”

“RAISE” THE RATE BY CHANGING THE VALUE

“LIFTING” THE OOO NOTES FROM THE MARKET

“DELETION OF THE ZEROS” IS TO NOT HAVE THE OOO’s ON THE NEW NOTES THAT WILL BE OR ARE ALREADY PRINTED

THIS PART SOUNDS A LOT LIKE THE TWO VIEWS OF HOW SOME LOOK AT THE DELETION OF THE ZERO, SEE; **** despite the emergence of intersection in the two views

I REALLY BELIEVE THAT SHABIBI KNOWS WHAT HE WILL DO BUT Finance d. Hilal Taan MAY THINK HE HAS ANOTHER VISION AS YOU WILL SEE HERE BUT IN REALITY THEY ARE ONE IN THE SAME BUT SHABIBI CANNOT LET IT BE HIS IDEA, IT NEEDS TO BE THE GOI’s IDEA,

SHABIBI WORKS FOR AN INDEPENDENT COMPANY THAT STANDS TO MAKE BILLIONS FROM THE CHANGE SO THE LAST THING HE NEEDS IS IT TO BE HIS IDEA;

**** and striking contrast representative of the Ministry of Finance d. Hilal Taan vision on the action

**** in sub converge policies have cash financial and in one pot, …CASH RESERVES

**** but a careful to keep the national economy from additional shocks. …IMO A LOP WOULD NOT TAKE THIS CLOSE OF STUDY AND WOULD NOT HAVE ANY SHOCK ON THE ECONOMY BUT UNVEILING THE REAL VALUE MAY CAUSE A SHOCK TO NOT ONLY THEM BUT TO US TOO. BTW, I WOULD LOVE TO BE SHOCKED IN A GOOD WAY MYSELF

Maliki’s hours are numbered….Implement or Get Out of the Way

HERE IS WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING AGAIN….

**** Taan focused on the obstruction,

**** the only way to delete the zeros is the psychological aspect of a group of Iraqi businessmen..PSYCHOLOGICAL

PSYCHOLOGICAL is an academic and applied discipline that involves the scientific study of mental functions and behaviors.[1][2] Psychology has the immediate goal of understanding individuals and groups by both establishing general principles and researching specific cases,[3][4] and by many accounts it ultimately aims to benefit society AND IN MANY ACCOUNTS IT ULTIMATELY AIMS TO BENEFIT SOCIETY

**** who have devoted culture of the state and rely on the dollar,

**** while noting the experiences of other countries reservations…..

NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT, OTHER COUNTRIES EVEN HAD RESERVATIONS WHILE AND AFTER THEY DID A LOP

BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE RELIED ON THEIR CURRENCY AS A WAY TO FORCE THEIR ECONOMIC ACTIVITY, SEE HERE; ?????? to rely on is their currency and a way to force their economic activity.

HERE IS WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT WHEN WOULD BE A GOOD TIME;

**** This analysis led to the development of ideas converged on the timing of the deletion of zeros and receded in the availability of envelopes ***

**** firstly cover legislative saves currency from acting qualitative….QUALITATIVE IN THIS MEANING IS A HIGH DEGREE OF SUBJECTIVITY, OR BETTER PUT; THE LAWS WILL CAUSE LESS CONFUSION TO THE CITIZENS IMO

**** secondly create a culture of attention in the national currency….A HIGHER VALUE WOULD DO THIS

**** and this is governed by a matter of time blaming devices media responsibility to adopt this role….SOME OF THE ADVERTISING THAT SHABIBI HAS TALKED ABOUT THRU THE MEDIA,

**** Many of the participants all agreed on the need to provide a suitable environment for such a move is important, …THIS IS WANT IS BEING DONE NOW AS WE CAN SEE

**** acknowledging its importance due to the fact that the currency represents infrastructure sober for the country's economy, ….SOUNDS SOBERING TO ME

**** and on the grounds that the country's economic strength stems from the power of her money. ….YES IT DOES

Maliki’s hours are numbered….Implement or Get Out of the Way

**** need to reform the system of payments deputy central bank governor the appearance of Dr. Mohammed Saleh pointed out that under the price stability and optimism in Iraq Development, OIL PRODUCTION IS AT ITS HIGHEST SINCE THE 80’s

**** it became necessary radical reform on the system management of currency as well as the re-structure commensurate with the price structure new and different, …THIS IS WHAT NEEDS CHANGES, THEY NEED CURRENCY THAT IS EASLIY HANDLED LIKE THE US DOLLAR IS, LESS ZEROS

**** stable and levels of wages and salaries, WE HAVE READ OF THIS BEING DONE TOO BUT THEY MAY HAVE A FEW MORE THAT NEEDS DONE,

SEE HERE THE SYSTEM NEEDS TO BE BACK TO WHERE IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO BECAUSE THINGS ARE BACK LIKE THEY WERE THEN****which differed significantly from the last thirty years, as well as handle the mass of large cash weak components so that it has become the largest category currency Atsawi only $ 21 U.S. at the present time. BUT THE DINAR IS NOT WORTH BUT $ 21U.S.

BUT SEE THE GDP WILL MORE THEN DOUBLE BY 2015 **** noting that the increase in gross domestic product of Iraq from $ 140 billion at year-end 2010 to more than $ 300 billion at the end of 2015,

THIS TALKS ABOUT THE REASON WHY THE VALUE IS WHERE IT IS **** will raise the money supply exporting of 30 trillion dinars to about 70 trillion dinars. And weak structure in the currency structure as mentioned above may take adds cost called the cost of cash transactions in terms of trading, whether between individuals themselves, individuals and banks within the banking system itself.

HERE THEY WANT TO BE LIKE SWEDEN AND IT ONLY COST THEM 4% OF THE GDP COMPARED TO IRAQ AT 8 % AND IT IS ALL DUE TO THE 000’s MAKING IT HARDER TO COUNT, HANDLE, ETC…

**** Saleh said that in Sweden, for example, having now one of the best systems of cash payments in the world and despite that, the cost of trading cash counting, transmission and storage of the coin costing the national economy accounted for 4 percent of the gross domestic product of Sweden.

Wondering how to compare that in a country like Iraq shall be managed so huge amounts of cash weak structure, adds the cost of cash transactions may reach 8 percent or more of GDP, a burden borne by the individual in his dealings which took reduces the efficiency of cash as an institution social support to institutions economy different, including the market as evidenced by the decline in cash transactions

because of falling efficiency and installation of the money supply current. and pointed out that the multiplicity of zeros raises the denominations with declining purchasing power has enormous difficulties, including the difficulty of expression for the cash value as well as the same (YOU THINK THEY NEED A CHANGE ??) difficulties of monetary operations and technical problems in the recording of statistical data in the accounting books and changing accounting systems and settlement systems, as well as prices figures show long difficult counters or digital devices read Asfarha in gas stations or other digital devices. and continued on this basis has become a need to reform the system of cash payments through several advantages,

GIVE THIS NEXT PART TO THE LOPSTERS BECAUSE IT BACKS UP THEIR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY BELIEVE WILL HAPPEN

**** the first on the horizontal plane and is deleting three zeros any transfer 30 trillion dinars to 30 billion Dolaran by deleting three zeros from the current currency and replace it with a new currency making it easier to handle arithmetic with numbers are less numerous in terms of accounts the federal budget,

**** the budgets of banks and companies as well as balancing family cash (individuals) without incurring any change or switch on the wealth of cash for natural persons and moral as well as non-depressing contracts and obligations between natural persons and all concerned. ,

**** which called generating function sports political debate or political debate of the world (1752) Effect of nominal price levels with a high amount of money,

OK FOLKS YOU JUST READ HOW EASY IT WOULD BE TO LOP THE ZEROS, HOW EASY IT WOULD TO EXPLAIN TO EVERYONE….EASY….EASY….EASY RIGHT, RIGHT SO WHY ALL THE STUDIES, WHY ALL THIS?

**** such as the transition from Roman numerals to Arabic numbers (the numbers in English now), that the transition to ????? of the basic principles of science and math. BASIC PRINCIPLES OF SCIENCE AND MATH

NOW THIS STATEMENTS SAY WHY;

**** High amounts of money leads to higher prices for the same without the impact's real economy results.

**** the level vertical any restructuring of the currency and fitted it to the category large amount of 25,000 dinars are alone (two thirds of the amount of securities traded),

Maliki’s hours are numbered….Implement or Get Out of the Way

**** the issuance of larger groups mean reductase four billion banknotes in circulation now and converted to a number equal to (1.180) billion paper cash.

MORE HISTORY IS NEXT THAT’S ALL….NOT BREAKING THIS DOWN BUT SHOWING EVERYTHING BECAUSE I DON’T WANT ANYONE TO SAY I CHANGED OR TOOK ANYTHING OUT

As Stakhtzel large groups of currency nearly 80 percent -90 percent of the total new categories exported to trading (such as 50, 100, 200 new dinars). Said based on the foregoing, the cost of cash transactions between individuals and banks and between individuals themselves or natural moral fall inevitably in terms of the costs of counting and checking.

If Maalmana, that banknotes traded eroded the average over a period of five years, which means replacing enormous mass weak structure and consequent costs typographical specifications high security is another burden borne by the issuing authority cash is a relic Management System cash generated economic downturn former became not fit, stability and economic progress desired.

said that money is anything agreed upon the community to become a medium of exchange and a store of value and unit account, the money (legal) issued by the monetary authority under the law and with the power of discharge of accounts receivable, seen as a social institution, where increasing the efficiency of the economy and its operations in moving efficiently exchange those social institution money, and vice versa.

THIS EXPLAINS HOW INFLATION INCREASED SO DID THE AMOUNT OF THE DINARS OVER TIME BUT THIS IMO IS WHY THEY JUST CANNOT TAKE THE ZEROS OUT OF CIRCULATION ALL AT ONCE AND IT MOST AND HAS BEEN DONE OVER TIME,

IMO THEY HAVE BEEN TAKING THE LARGE 25,000 AND OTHER NOTES OUT THRU THE AUCTIONS BUT NOT REVEALING IT …. YOU CAN LOOK AT IT THE WAY THE LOPSTERS DO OR THE WAY I DO AND I CONCEDE MY THEORY IS BASED ON THEM DOING THIS

SO THE ONES THAT DON’T SEE IT THIS WAY REALLY DON’T NEED TO COMMENT AS I HAVE CONCEDED TO YOUR THINKING ALREADY **** explaining that continuous inflation led to rising currency of 23 billion dinars in 1991 to about (30) trillion dinars over time.

STRYKER CHAT, PART 2, 4 SEPT


SEE IT TOOK 30 YEARS FOR THIS TO HAPPEN SO THEY CANNOT CHANGE IT OVER NIGHT AND THAT IS WHY I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BEEN REDUCING THE MONEY SUPPLY OVER THE LAST YEAR THROUGH MY RESEARCH

**** In this drawing new inflation figures for the currency traded add three zeros which increased the nominal amount of cash operations and consequent costs of producing large amounts of Maraafqatha, storage

(SEE THE INFLATION COMES DOWN SO SHOULD THEY BRING THE LARGE ZEROS OFF THE MARKET THUS THE LARGE STORAGE FEES), SEE THEY HAVE MORE THEN 4 TRILLION WORTH OF DINARS IN THE MARKET BUT THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE IN USD,

ONCE THEY DE-DOLLARIZE THAT USD WILL GO STRAIGHT INTO THE CBI RESERVES TO BACK SOME OF THE NEW PRINTED DINAR WITH THE ZEROS DELETED FROM THEM (LD IQD)
  **** and distribution operations, sorting and checking accompany her and doubling levels,

**** the growing operational risks associated.

**** And concluded by saying that the reasons for changing the currency current reflects the fruit of economic stability SEE THEY WANT IT TO WORK THE WAY IT SHOULD, YOU TAKE AWAY YOU GIVE IT BACK THE SAME WAY, YOU DON’T LOP IT FROM THE PEOPLE…. THAT WOULD BE THE WAY COUNTRIES WITH HIGH INFLATION WOULD DO IT IMO

**** and the success of policies CBI in maintaining stability and of the stability of the dinar and falling inflation to the rank of one decimal THIS LOOKS LIKE A ONE (1) DECIMAL MOVE IN THE EXCHANGE RATE OR IS IT THREE (3) AND THEY WILL JUST NOT TELL US AT THIS POINT

**** and build foreign reserves support of the Iraqi dinar levels never achieved during the thirty years, which is the cover of the Iraqi currency. ….

THEY ARE SAYING THAT THEY ARE DOING IT THE WAY WE/I BELIEVE BECAUSE THE RESERVES AND THE PRODUCTION HAVE NEVER SEEN IT THIS HIGH SINCE THE 80’s (THE PAST 30 YEARS)……ALL THEY NEED TO BE, IS LIKE THEY WERE THEN WHEN THE MONEY SUPPLY WAS 23 BILLION DINAR AND THE CURRENCY WOULD HAVE THE SAME VALUE AS IT WAS BACK THEN

**** In addition to improving the system of cash payments and make it leave actual adhesion combination for the past economic ????????? and rebuilt on the future of economic development and real and nominal givens.

MORE TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION **** Action needs to review minutes either an economic expert Dr Akram Abdel Aziz began her several questions came in the forefront of any mechanisms that depend upon the implementation of this approach and implement the replacement process and ensures that there is no manipulation during the switching process in the sense of protecting this step of fraud?

IS IT WORTH THE MONEY SPENT, THEY WILL MAKE THIS BACK IN THE 4% SAVINGS EVERY YEAR**** And added that the economic situation need to follow all his joints which are needed to promote it, as the money spent on switching process must achieve the goal.

**** Continued its questions you were to stop at concerns and that this process may increase smuggling money abroad,

**** especially that the process of deletion of zeros procedural difficult and complex

**** and require statistics and accurate figures and must stand at the effects on the stock market.

**** They pointed out that this issue if has not been studied extensively and the quality of community,

**** the process of subtraction will of the Iraqi market to imbalance

**** and jerks just because the citizen can imagine that the deletion of zeros will affect the real value of the currency,

**** stressing that the strategy proposed must correlate between the money market

**** and the labor market,

**** as she wondered whether that outlook be comprehensive nature of inflation in terms of it's not the high cost of production and a series elevations price of interest joints much-needed citizen.

**** said that direct this trend needs to be a thorough review of the reality of the Iraqi economy

**** and its institutions of public

**** and private

**** and the extent

**** and effectiveness trends credit support for the work of the private sector .

It showed that the basis of the success of any reform process and administrative needs radical treatment and serious fiscal imbalances,

**** monetary

**** and administrative constitute an obstacle to development cash development in Iraq.

**** deficit financing most prominent reasons for the low value of the currency and despite the fact that the process of deletion of zeros from the currency traces can be negative on counterfeiting operations that will accompany it,

**** but the economic expert, Dr. Hilal Taan said during his speech at the symposium opposite when he pointed to the possibility of several gains from behind changing the currency, POSSIBILITY OF SEVERAL GAINS

**** is to provide a strong cash flow and global Iraq,

**** which is needed to large groups of cash in value

**** and small in size perform functions of money,

**** as well as the deletion of zeros will play a positive role in business dealings,

**** according to Taan who said that other positive which will be produced by changing the currency is escorted to the stage of economic growth and prosperity growing for Iraq,

**** therefore, change the currency is essential

**** This is in line with this optimism in the national economy.

**** reviewed Taan some detail the chronology of the Iraqi dinar

**** and witnessed volatility of price,

BRING THE MONEY SUPPLY DOWN AND YOU HAVE IT WHERE IT WAS BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE IS WHERE IT WAS THEN, INFLATION AND PRODUCTION ARE WHERE THEY WERE IN THE 80’s

****** explaining that in 1980 amounted to release cash in Iraq four billion dinars, and was then the highest denomination is 25 dinars, equivalent to then $ 75,

**** and reached the bloc in 1992 about 25 billion dinars,

**** and increased in 2003 to reach six trillion dinars,

**** and rose this block to reach now 35 trillion dinars.

**** Despite increasing the money supply in this way large compared with the year 1980, which was equal to the highest category of cash which is 25 dinars about $ 75, the Taan For comparison pointed out that the highest category of cash now stands at 25 thousand dinars is it not worth only $ 22.

**** explaining that this shows the size of the collapse happening in the Iraqi currency The wrought by a series of factors do not stand Pferdha deficit financing process in the forefront of those factors but also contributed to other causes in a collapse of the structural changes that have occurred on the size of the budget after 2003,

**** which led to the increase of cash,

**** and this increase resulted in the higher costs Additional transactions,

**** so in the case of deletion of zeros, these costs will decrease inevitably.

**** Taan hinted that Iraq since the eighties resorted to the use of deficit financing policy, and that policy in developed countries achieved positive effects unlike in developing countries,

**** where the States have developed a device productive flexible able to face demand and therefore increase investment,

**** savings

**** and get the economy moving,

**** either in developing countries When Released new cash gets to meet a large amount of money goods are few and services is low,

**** and a productive is flexible and a rise in prices and the flight of capital,

**** stressing that all these negative factors took place in Iraq,

**** and increased rates of inflation,

**** and these negatives according Taan can not be solved without deleting three zeros from the currency.

THIS CAN BE HANDLED TWO WAYS….LOP OOO’s OR SUCK THE MONEY SUPPLY DOWN OVER TIME LIKE I BELIEVE THEY HAVE AND REVALUE THE CURRENCY TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE FOR THEIR PEOPLE.…

Turning Taan to the importance of the availability of a number of things he said was necessary to initiate the process of deletion of zeros,

**** pointing out that there are factors to concrete

**** and other significant impact material,

**** and also said: that to change the currency prerequisites should be available before this,

**** the first of the reserve strategic direct,

**** any balance of gold and foreign currency,

**** and I see that the dinar Iraqi covered with good foreign currency is according to the Central Bank of 67 billion dollars.

**** believes Taan he Furthermore, the second factor that must be made available to initiate the process of deletion is in the size of the reserve strategic indirect,

**** and intended to natural resources, BINGO

**** and this is positive now,

**** especially since Iraq has become the second country after Saudi Arabia in the volume of production

**** and exports of oil to OPEC members,

**** explaining that the third thing is the factor psychological,

**** any behaviors

**** and activities to some wholesalers,

**** who became not like to deal in Iraqi dinars,

**** and preferred the dollar,

**** despite the fact that The currency is a commodity,

**** the greater the demand for that commodity value rises,

**** and vice versa. has provided a number of experts

**** and researchers interventions task enriched table ideas and solutions,

**** including the Executive Director of the Association of private banks in Iraq Abdul Aziz Hassoun,

**** and banking expert Abdul Hussein Mundhiri,

**** and economic researcher Thamir Alheimus

**** and economic analyst, Dr. Hussein Allawi,

**** and a number of other businessmen,

***** including investor Hadi Hndas,

**** and investor Ibrahim Jaber Hussein,

**** and Ibrahim Mohamed Ali investor.

THIS WAS A TIME CONSUMING TASK BUT I HOPE THIS HELPS, LOP THE 000’S WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE LONG AGO WHEN SHABIBI BROUGHT THE INFLATION DOWN TO 3 % LAST YEAR BUT THEY HAVE A BIGGER PLAN FOR IT….

WATCH WHAT THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO DO WITH THE BILLIONS ABOUT TO BE PUT INTO SPAIN, GERMANY AND OTHER EUROPEAN COUNTRIES!!! THIS IS JUST PART OF THE BIGGER PICTURE FOLKS.

I DID THIS BECAUSE YOTA ASK ME TOO; HE IS A REAL FRIEND, A PATRIOT OF THE USA AND A PATRIOT OF OUR INVESTMENT INTO A COUNTRY THAT WAS WORTH SAVING IMO……

GOD BLESS OUR FALLEN SOLDIERS -- STRYKER

DOCDINAR, NWGUY & FREEBIRD POST, 4 SEPT

9-4-2012 Docdinar: I am very encouraged by reports of the US delegation traveling to Iraq and stressing the importance of Talabani being present.  I believe they will be making this trip to ensure the reforms get passed and a successful National Meeting is held.  Demonstrating stability in Iraq is important during this election season and the more successful Iraq is, the more successful it makes our policies in Iraq and foreign policy in general look. This should be a very exciting month for us.  For over a year now September 2012 has been advertised as a key month for the introduction of the new currency.  We should know shortly if those reports are true.

9-4-2012 NWGUY: I think, what my Dinar brother Easy (Easyrider from DV) is saying, is that they have a budget that they publish for the world to see, but the one that they don't want us to see "at this point" is the one that they are really working at. Think about it, they are going to have the most massive increase in value, in history. Would you want to telegraph to the whole world what it is, and when it will be, so all the speculators will run out and buy, everything they can get there hands on? I don't think so. So, I guess, what Easy is saying nicely, is don't believe everything you read from Iraq. They are the most ruthless, untrust worthy, and manipulative people, I think the world has ever seen! I think when you have been around here for a while, you will learn a lot, and one of the people you might want to follow, is our brother....Easy!

9-4-2012 Freebird: I still think this is our month for the RV. I think Talabani is going to return, get the support from Biden, hold a National Meeting then announce the ministers and pass the Erbil agreement.  The CBI should make their move as soon as that has been accomplished. I think this will be a big month for investors.  Keep the faith!!

Economist: sale of gold coins by the Central Bank will raise the value of the Iraqi dinar against the US dollar, 4 SEPT

Economist: sale of gold coins by the Central Bank will raise the value of the Iraqi dinar against the US dollar

Baghdad (News) ... Economic expert said Akram Abdel-Aziz, the Central Bank raised the idea of selling gold coins at banks on citizens will raise the value of the Iraqi dinar against the US dollar.
Said Abdul Aziz (News Agency news) on Tuesday that the sale of gold coins by the Central Bank and banks will contribute to raising the value of the Iraqi dinar against the US dollar by withdrawing the dinar from citizens who accept to buy gold and limited view of the Iraqi dinar in the market to increase demand for the dinar and the lack of supply.

She added: the Central Bank of Iraq according to ratio has limits (30) trillion Iraqi dinar surplus cash block led to oversupply and low demand and the depreciation of the Iraqi dinar against the US dollar, stating that the money supply liquidity index in Iraqi banks exceeded (51%) and did not find their way to employment paid by pressing in the direction of raising prices and create inflation in the economic market.

She explained: that selling gold coins will help to absorb inflation and depreciation of the US dollar exchange rate for the Iraqi dinar and reduces pressure on the price of goods on the Iraqi market. determined


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SWFLORIDAGUY POST, 4 SEPT


SWFloridaGuy] Just wanted to give everyone that update I said I would on the group that left from Tampa. Just got a call from her. They arrived in Reno today and were promised that they wouldn't have to even spend the night, that they would be able to cash out and be flown directly back. The group is now stuck there. They had demanded to deal directly with the bank and not some 3rd party negotiator. That was not the case once they arrived there. For whatever reason they now can't reach their contact there who set this up and they are all very upset. They are now forced to spend the night and have no idea what's going on. This is a pretty large group and I'm sure others in the rooms know people who were foolish enough to go along for the ride. I feel bad for the group but many did try to warn them. I'll keep everyone updated on how long they stay and what transpires.

[SWFloridaGuy] Do not fly to Reno for this scam!!!!!!!!
[SWFloridaGuy] Expendable3 I'm just amazed so many are falling for this. This is just the latest group. There have been many that have already been screwed by this one.

[SWFloridaGuy] eleanor This is the first group where I've known anyone personally who got caught up in this. I've heard for months now of this going on in Reno with other groups but until now it hadn't affected someone I knew personally. I can't believe that law enforcement hasn't nailed these guys yet. Most scam groups operate in a way where they convince you that the deal is so special and secret anonymity is key and something they can't compromise.

[eleanor] SWFloridaGuy Do you know who they went to see ie. the broker.

 [SWFloridaGuy] heartfelt Well, this group didn't hand over there dinar like previous ones and that's why they are now stuck there with no one to talk to. "Contact" who set this up has now disappeared.

 [SWFloridaGuy] I would think that this group would come into chat rooms though and warn others after this is over. It would be the right thing to do.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 4 SEPT

9-4-2012  Intel Guru Gary   Major changes going on over there in country.  They are moving forward and a lot of things pointing in the direction of they are ready, they are done.  That is exciting!!  The banks are looking at it in the same anticipation as we are.  I am expecting some more positive things going on this week, hopefully some announcements. 

9-4-2012  Intel Guru Checkmate     I see nothing negative except that it hasn't happened.  The information that we have received that's going on in the banking institutions either overseas or here is what I have been looking for.  I didn't say it was going to happen today, but I am hoping, I just don't see it yet. 

9-4-2012  Intel Guru BWM    it will happen and I don't see any reason it can't occur at this time from what I'm hearing. I definitely think the street rate will be under $7. 

Advisor to the Prime Minister is likely application of the deletion of zeros from the currency in early (2015), 4 SEPT


Advisor to the Prime Minister is likely application of the deletion of zeros from the currency in early (2015)


Baghdad (news) .. likely economic advisor to the Prime Minister Hussain Al-Anbuge, the implementation of the project to delete the three zeroes from the national currency in early (2015) because it is an important project and needs for a period of time sufficient and appropriate security conditions for its application.
He said Anbuge (of the Agency news) on Tuesday: The Council of Ministers decision to wait for the project to delete zeros to notice a clear and explicit, but the central bank for reasons unknown to everyone Egypt to implement the project early next year is not afraid of its negative consequences may occur when the application project in (2013 ).
He added: that the central bank has asked the Council of Ministers ending wait project and in the light held the Economic Committee in the Council of Ministers meeting has discussed the project to delete the zeros extensively was reached that the project large and needs to be careful and adequate time and appropriate conditions to be applied in addition to that he also needs political stability and security and administrative.
He noted: that circumstance is appropriate now to implement such a project affects the citizen and the national economy directly setting calls to amendments and legislation Legal and perhaps to the law itself Wolfson law requires a long time so it was not able to the government and the central bank implemented in (2013) and in (2014 ) and may be implemented early this year (2015).
The Central Bank of Iraq announced (29 September 2011) that the year 2013 will see the deletion of zeros and currency switch, which warned officials and economists because there mafias currency is preparing to rig the trillion Iraqi dinars to replace them in the light of the upcoming changes.
The Council demanded the prime minister the central bank to wait to draft deleted three zeros from the local currency, saying he was a big project and it needs enough time to apply.
The accused CBI government agencies of obstructing monetary reform and vowed persecuting because it was the country’s financial interests at risk.

CURRENCY & POLITICAL NEWS IRAQ, 4 SEPT


9-4-2012 Ministers: Within two weeks to resolve the file security ministries. The reform project started to move as positive and active between the political blocs and there is progress nominate candidates securit. Expect within two weeks will be to resolve the file candidates security permanently.  http://ikhnews.com/news_view_54336.html

9-4-2012 Kuwait PM: Kuwait’s Prime Minister to visit Iraq soon. The visit would be to strengthen bilateral relations between Iraq and Kuwait, the Iraqi-Kuwaiti relations are constantly evolving. Sabah will discuss with Prime Minister Maliki issues involving the two countries, stressing that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Kuwait waiting to schedule the visit. http://www.ikhnews.com/news.php?action=view&id=54366

9-4-2012 United States: The U.S. will offer road map to resolve the political crisis. Agency said (UR) it’s got a very important information about the details of the upcoming visit of the U.S. delegation to Iraq. Maliki briefed on an electronic message sent by the U.S. government this morning indicates the work program of the U.S. delegation, which will be headed by U.S. Vice President Joseph Biden. The U.S. delegation will present a road map for ending the conflict between the political blocs and solve the outstanding problem of laws, especially the oil and gas law and to break the ice between Allawi and Maliki and Barzani. Biden postponed his visit until the return of President Talabani, because he believes that the key to the solution in Iraq and that the balanced and the most acceptable and that would solve the crisis. http://www.babnews.com/inp/view.asp?ID=57398

9-4-2012 GDP: Iraq sees annual 10% GDP growth over next 3 years: CBI says Iraq's gross domestic product is expected to grow at an average rate of about 10% per year over the next three years, driven by increased oil revenues. The OPEC member has the world’s fourth-largest oil reserves and is producing more than 3 million barrels per day (bpd) for the first time in three decades. It has ambitions to double its oil production over the next three years. Its exports rose to 2.565 million bpd on average in August, the highest level for three decades, the head of the State Oil Marketing Organization (SOMO) said on Saturday. Oil adds a lot to GDP. Each increase of 100,000 bpd of exports adds more than $3.4 bln per year.  http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/09/03/235903.html

9-4-2012 Bank Technologies: Invitations to the introduction of modern technology in banks. The importance of the introduction of modern global banking technology in the work of Iraqi banks and the training of human resources in order to conduct business for these technologies. The process of the introduction of these technologies need to exchange large sums of money and some private banks do not have the ability to purchase these advanced devices must the federal government must take into account these banks by giving them sufficient funds for advancement. The citizen’s confidence in private banks exist contrary to statements made ​​by some officials, stressing that the Iraqi banks deep roots and is committed to global banking norms but requires modern techniques in their work. http://www.ahraraliraq.com/index.php?page=article&id=9635

DONTLOP, FREEBIRD, SWFLORIDAGUY, ZIGMEISTER, MOUNTAINMAN & LORIC POST, 4 SEPT



9-4-2012 Dontlop (Part 1): Commodity Backed Money is where the quantity of money is backed with a commodity, which it can be traded in with at request. The money supply cannot increase past the worth of commodity the country holds. The Gold Standard was the best example. Awide variety of possible commodities could be used to measure value. We could, for instance, use wheat (or rice), probably the most universally needed commodities for human survival. But any single commodity will have the disadvantage that it represents only a part of the total package essential to human or economic exchange. On the other hand we cannot use commodities that do not have a high degree of universal usefulness. If we examine commodities that are universally used around the world, around thirty are essential to world trade. These thirty commodities represent the bulk of three essential categories: energy, agriculture and forestry production, and Minerals. Under energy we find oil, coal, and gas to be most important. Under agriculture and forestry we find grains, cotton, beans, and wood most important. And under minerals we find copper, tin, gold, silver, platinum, etc. 


9-4-2012 Dontlop (Part 2): If Iraq becomes like Canada or Australia using a commodity based currency, they could hold a value of 15 to 30 trillion dollars for their currency but as the oil is sold they must reinvest that money in non commodity economics for their future or they would have to devalue their currency as they deplete their resources. Who knows what the plan is. It's a secret, I'd love to see a huge rv. All they have to do is form a comodity based dinar and back it with oil for 17 trillion dinars worth one dollar each. Then as they deplete their oil they devalue their currency but as they deplete their oil they build up the foriegn currency reserves in dollars they get from selling the oil in the ground. So, as the dinar loses 17 trillion dollars of its value they gain 17 trillion dollars in foriegn reserves in oil sales. At some point they just back their currency with those dollars so the losses aquired from selling off their comodity backing is simoutanously being rebacked by the dollar. So, they dont lose any value, its kinda like a loan from the IMF located in Washington DC.  

9-4-2012 Freebird: I still think this is our month for the RV. I think Talabani is going to return, get the support from Biden, hold a National Meeting then announce the ministers and pass the Erbil agreement.  The CBI should make their move as soon as that has been accomplished. I think this will be a big month for investors.  Keep the faith!! 



9-4-2012 SWFloridaGuy: Again I'm seeing gurus in the rooms tell members not to read articles and just trust in the rumors. We all know how unreliable certain reports out of Iraq can be but don't let anyone tell you not to do your own research and just trust in them and their "Sources," also known as the "Roller Coaster." Don't ever limit yourself, read whatever you can get your hands on. Examine all constituent elements (both political and economic), put the pieces together and then formulate your own educated analysis. We can of course also use this process to eliminate plenty of imbecilic or less pragmatic sources along the way (second to second hypers whose names I won't mention). The only way we can educate ourselves is by taking the time to do our own research. We should utilize every tool at our disposal, whether it's to research currency reform, IMF/World Bank reports, the study of macroeconomic analysis, the history of large currency appreciation shocks, confirming which laws have been passed and read into the Gazette, Iraqi Legal Database, reviewing statements from the CBI, GOI, Finance Committee or just some random economist stating his opinion.  Like with all information we receive, we must consider the source and use our best judgment as to the author's credibility. None of us have all the answers and we've all been wrong in the past but with such a large group working together, researching, utilizing our time and resources, we can all come to a better understanding as to where we stand. 


9-4-2012 Zigmeister: "Parliament yielded to the demands of the Kurds and the Commission on article 140."  In this article it appears parliament is giving the go ahead for Article 140, however there does seem to be a bit of a dance still to play out. But they are ready to crunch the hours and get this done, as I see it. This is an excellent post. I am taking it as a "yes the HCL is done!" I don't care what Iraq tells us differently tomorrow, its done! 

9-4-2012 Mountainman: The Kuwait PM is meeting with Maliki work on bi-lateral relations and continue toward Chapter VII removal. The CBI and GOI are working to update the banking sector with the latest electronic technologies and Iraq's GDP is growing at record levels due to oil production. Supposedly Talabani is returning to meet the US delegation and have a national conference.  The news is all excellent right now and the rumors are positive also if you believe them.  Either way I'd say we're moving forward and in a great spot here in September. I think between now and January is our time FINALLY and like everyone I'm expecting this to happen sooner rather than later.

9-4-2012 LoriC: Just as we thought Biden is timing his visit for when Talabani returns and will be pushing for the passing of the reforms and the National Meeting also.  This added pressure is great news for us. The Ministers will be resolved in the next 2 weeks and it was announced that Iraq's oil production levels has reached its highest levels in 30 years.  The news just keeps getting better and better.  Go RV!!



BONDLADY CHAT, PARTY 1 , 4 SEPT

[BondLady] A commission of inquiry reveals the complicity of officials ERA selling currency Published 03/09/2012 09:31 AM Babinaoz - Agencies: Revealed Truth formed by the House of Representatives, which includes the heads of (Economic and Financial Committee and BSA) about the existence of collusion of some officials and advisers at the central bank issue auction currency, revealing that a report be submitted to the chairman of the parliament next week to make a decision the subject.

A member of the fact-finding committee, Ahmed al-Alwani's (Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network) that his committee "ended a series of meetings with officials in the Central Bank and the Financial Inspection Office and the tax and customs and economic crime, and will report to the Presidency of the Council of Representatives next week to make a decision on the subject of an auction sale currency. "

http://www.babnews.com/inp/view.asp?ID=57334

[BondLady] will report to the Presidency of the Council of Representatives next week to make a decision on the subject of an auction sale currency.
  [rsp1] BondLady When they close the auctions, is that to get ready for the revalue? by pulling in the 000'

[BondLady] as i said yesterday when everyone was talking about the high auctions, imo they wouldnt change until the cbi did something different  we need to see more on it rsp before we can say

[rsp1] Well, that certainly would be different - no auctions.

[BondLady] we can assume... but you know what they say about people who assume

[rsp1] I thought that was where it was going.

[BondLady] let me find us another one

[BondLady] Commission on tourism: frequent crash affected the national economy must be abolished Date: 2012-09-03 13: 47: 47 Monday Baghdad (News) ... Called the Vice-Chairman of the Committee for tourism and Antiquities/Iraqi coalition MP Talal Hussein Al-zawbai, the Chamber of Deputies and the Federal Government Holidays Act to their negative effects in disrupting the Iraqi economy.

He said Al-zawbai (the news agency news) Monday: that the law will abolish most holidays holidays that recalls the days of the deposed regime and all holidays are meaningless, saying, could increase the holidays resulted in declining national economy.

He added: the law provides for the reduction of official holidays was bad since the days of the former regime or after the events of 2003, stating that the law was the first reading and Tourism Commission bent on completion of the second reading and then vote in the Chamber of Deputies.

 He noted: all holidays established by law must be abolished official law of the Iraqi Government with the consent of the House of representatives./finished

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[BondLady] see this is mainly saying whats not being said actually, as weird as this might sound they dont like the exchange rates and the sanctions put on countries who come to iraq for the holidays and the celebrations  they talk about how it was in the former regime days

[BondLady] : that the law will abolish most holidays holidays that recalls the days of the deposed regime and all holidays are meaningless, saying, could increase the holidays resulted in declining national economy. He added: the law provides for the reduction of official holidays was bad since the days of the former regime or after the events of 2003

[rsp1] They do have a TON of holidays.

[BondLady] they should too there culture is back to the beginning of mankind  ours is what 200 yrs old theres is over 5000 yrs stands to reason anyway there tourisum has dropped extremely and no 1 wants to take iran nor syrian money an they do pilgrimages to iraq to celebrate these holidays

[BondLady] there exchange rates drop to nothing an they lose money by taking them  anyway just trying to show how the exchange rates are affecting iraq economy of neighboring states  as there tourisum outside of oil is what brings in the money so they want to try an reduce some of these holidays to get more work done and they really should

[BondLady] but they will meet a big force against these as they love there holidays and the martyrs and want to celebrate all of them ] but they do very little work when they have 25 holidays a month so to speak and many won't like the holidays they chose to get rid of so that will be more reasons for them to fight

[BondLady] President of the Arab Parliament pays tribute to the development of relations, Iraq - Kuwait 03/09/2012 12:00 am Cairo - Isra-Khalifa praised the president of the Arab Parliament and a member of the Kuwaiti National Assembly Ali Salem الدقباسي development of relations Iraq - Kuwait and end all outstanding issues between the parties including the exchange of prisoners and demarcation and file Kuwait Airways and file Kuwaiti detainees.

considered الدقباسي in a statement the "Center Brief Iraqi Media Network, "said Iraqi relations - Kuwait must be more than good and at the highest levels because there are common interests.

also pointed out that the end of files between Iraq and Kuwait must be based on UN resolutions to lay solid foundations for the construction of improved relations must be between two brothers and neighbors and we are not against any action to achieve common interests between Iraq and Kuwait and achieve economic interests and other interests between the two Arab countries neighbors.

due to hold Iraqi officials and Kuwaiti during the next term meeting to close the pending issues as a prelude to remove Iraq from Chapter VII

[BondLady] where source said Foreign Relations Committee's "Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network," that delegations from the two countries will exchange visits during the next term of the agreement on a date for a meeting to resolve some outstanding issues, including the file Kuwait Airways and the border and the issue of debt and Kuwaiti archives, with focus stage following the end the file of missing Kuwaitis and compensation .

witnessing Iraqi-Kuwaiti relations are positive developments as it announced Kuwaiti Ambassador to Iraq Ali insured recently his country's determination to open consulates in the cities of Erbil and Basra as well as the offices of the embassy in the number of Iraqi provinces, and confirmed that the Kuwaiti side touching seriousness of the Iraqi government to close the outstanding issues between two countries since the nineties of the last century.

and led Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to Kuwait on March 14 last year to the parties' agreement on the maintenance of border markers, and lay the foundations and frameworks common resolve all files, timetables short, while Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, who accompanied Maliki on the trip then that what has been agreed upon is significant progress in relation to the exit of Iraq from Chapter VII

http://www.alsabaah.com/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=34226

[BondLady] the parties' agreement on the maintenance of border markers, and lay the foundations and frameworks common resolve all files,  ] this was a biggie and part of art 140

[BondLady] but they are still griping about the port mubarack that kuwait is building  if they would just concentrate on there own port fao it would be the biggest of the biggest ports around and would be trade ways to all asia an EU countries  think thats also talked about in the bible and it will happen

[BondLady] already its so big it goes for as far as the eye can see  i posted a article on it yesterday

[BondLady] Saad express surprise at the government and international silence towards the damage that it will port Mubarak in Iraqi ports Baghdad - and babysit - crossed member bloc Virtue parliamentary deputy Susan Saad, was surprised of silence government and the international community towards the damage سيلحقه Port Mubarak ports of Iraq and not issued any official position in this regard,

although the Ministry of Transport confirmed the presence of damage from the establishment of the port.

 Said Saad in a statement received news agency public opinion (and babysit) a copy of: The Ministry of Transport announced explicitly the existence of damage Selhgaha Port Mubarak ports Iraqi even been suspended fourth phase of it, because the damage lies in its not in the number of stages.

She added: it is not possible silence on the damage سيلحقه port of Mubarak, especially after we learned position of the Ministry of Transport of this matter, which called on the government and the House of Representatives to study it in detail to order to reach effective solutions or internationalization of the issue in the UN body.

 It showed: that despite the large number of committees formed to demonstrate the effects of the port of Mubarak on Iraq, but it did not yielded the desired goal, especially that it had so far not provided a report clearly demonstrates the merits of the case.   http://alrayy.com/59910.htm

[BondLady] thats from todays news  every 1 says kuwait has the rights to do there ports

[BondLady] un   britian  usa   they all say it  but thats not good enough for them that high nassaf or whatever her name is  she has contested it from the 1st day

[BondLady] and she believes as many of them do kuwait should show brotherly love and forgive all the debt from saddam an blow off building this port like spoiled kids who didnt get there way

[BondLady] kuwait says nope your gonna pay and were going to build and they have that right

Deputy for Iraq: the resolution of the security ministries and the Federal Court Act and the Supreme Judicial Council a good start for dialogue Agencies - said a member of the Iraqi List MP Nora Salem, that resolution of the security ministries and vote on the law of the Federal Court and the Supreme Judicial Council would be a good start for dialogue and open a new page between the political blocs to end the differences.

Salem said in a press statement: The paper questioning the prime minister stopped the existence of bilateral dialogues between the political blocs, especially the last meeting between Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and parliament speaker Osama al-Nujaifi was positive.

She added: that the political blocs waiting for the return of President Jalal Talabani to make an appointment national Anakadalagtmaa, pointing to its list does not know the content of the paper reform. She MP for the coalition in Iraq: the available real intentions and sincere political blocs and put the country's interests supreme above partisan interests and personal, there will be a solution to the crisis. Noting that agreement of the political blocs on the security ministries and voting on some important laws Kalmgma Federal Supreme Judicial Council, there will be door to open new blocs through dialogue.   http://alrayy.com/59906.htm

[BondLady] Member of the Commission on human rights: allocation of 25% in surplus oil revenues to people have a legitimate right to be applied

Date: 2012-09-03 11: 15: 08 Monday Baghdad (News) ... MP/Alliance called Kurdistan/dry ashwaq, House of the application of the law of distribution of oil revenues on all people and activated.

She said dry (News Agency news) Monday: 85 percent of the members of the House of representatives voted on the distribution share 25% of the surplus oil revenues to Iraqi people, stating that the Act did not apply to the ground and make the forgotten laws in the House of representatives.

She added: the distribution part of the surplus oil revenues are a legitimate right of every citizen after the 2012 budget ratified the law, presumably applied in six months, but never implemented.

Reported: that the Sadr movement is adopting the idea of law and supported by the Kurdistan Alliance, a move calculated to the legislative authority of the Iraqi citizen service

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[BondLady] they are and have been working on this  and i believe that will come about soon

BONDLADY CHAT, PART 2 , 4 SEPT


[BondLdy] Monday 3 September 2012

Vice Sabi calls on the United Nations to intervene to resolve the political crisis

Agencies - MP for Kota Mandaeans Khalid Amin Rumi, the United Nations to intervene to solve the current crisis as soon as possible, and expected political blocs to agree on a reform paper.

Romney said in a press statement: it is the duty of the United Nations to resolve the outstanding problems between the political parties and the private and since 2003 was the intervention of the United Nations positive.
  He added: that the only solution to the current crisis is dialogue and agreement on the reform paper, expected to get consensus between the blocks on that paper.

The MP said the Kota Sabean: that there is disagreement on some provisions of the reform, but the dialogue sponsor dissolving differences and finding solutions to satisfy all political parties.

http://alrayy.com/59905.htm

[BondLady] see what they do they pass laws but don't enact them hence defeating there purpose...many of these laws have to have other laws passed to be affective

[BondLady] so really until they do the census and pass the HCL they really can't give the people there percentage of the profits

[BondLady] the last part of the hcl is who gets how much money and where its to go and the census shows the provinces population  i believe the last census done was in 2005  not positive

[tlm724] BondLady it didn't include Kurdistan

[BondLady] but they did most of it till they get to Kurdistan and the kurds believe they should get more and they have more people than the census says  anyway just trying to show why some laws get passed and never get used   many take other laws to make them work

[BondLady] 4200 disabled plant in the private sector 03/09/2012 12:00 am BAGHDAD - morning revealed the economic and investment commission parliamentary economic statistical numbers labs broken across the country and in the private sector, while showed that most laboratories state-owned can not compete importer.

 said committee member Abdul Salam al-Maliki's (Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network) "There 4200 Laboratory various disciplines currently disabled across the country all belong to the private sector." and added that "the government laboratories such as the coefficient of oil and gas, fertilizers, iron and steel, glass and cement Shuaiba and paper mills parked due to lack of funds necessary to sustain this laboratories to cover the need of the market.

 "stressing that" workers are a burden on the state because they receive paychecks without producing. "and explained that these plants" expired it can not provide the goods good and can not compete with imported and must be updated to bring life to it . "and noted that" the lack of economic feasibility of these plants where the cost of what is produced is much higher than the market price

http://www.alsabaah.com/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=34238

[BondLady] kinda what i just said except these were major factories 4200 of them another article i posted a couple weeks ago shows it to be a lot more than this  like 42,000 not hundreds  don't know which is right but its still a lot an they do need to concentrate on this it will give 1,000's of jobs  and if they earn money they spend money

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[BondLady] And added that the economic situation need to follow all his joints which are needed to promote it, as the money spent on switching process must achieve the goal.

Continued its questions you were to stop at concerns and that this process may increase smuggling money abroad, especially that the process of deletion of zeros procedural difficult and complex and require statistics and accurate figures and must stand at the effects on the stock market.

They pointed out that this issue if has not been studied extensively and the quality of community, the process of subtraction will of the Iraqi market to imbalance and jerks just because the citizen can imagine that the deletion of zeros will affect the real value of the currency, stressing that the strategy proposed must correlate between the money market and the labor market, as she wondered whether that outlook be comprehensive nature of inflation in terms of it's not the high cost of production and a series elevations price of interest joints much-needed citizen.

said that direct this trend needs to be a thorough review of the reality of the Iraqi economy and its institutions of public and private and the extent and effectiveness trends credit support for the work of the private sector .

[BondLady] And added that the economic situation need to follow all his joints which are needed to promote it, as the money spent on switching process must achieve the goal.

[BondLady] Continued its questions you were to stop at concerns and that this process may increase smuggling money abroad, especially that the process of deletion of zeros procedural difficult and complex and require statistics and accurate figures and must stand at the effects on the stock market.

[BondLady] They pointed out that this issue if has not been studied extensively and the quality of community, the process of subtraction will of the Iraqi market to imbalance and jerks just because the citizen can imagine that the deletion of zeros will affect the real value of the currency,

[BondLady] stressing that the strategy proposed must correlate between the money market and the labor market, as she wondered whether that outlook be comprehensive nature of inflation in terms of it's not the high cost of production and a series elevations price of interest joints much-needed citizen. said that direct this trend needs to be a thorough review of the reality of the Iraqi economy and its institutions of public and private and the extent and effectiveness trends credit support for the work of the private sector .

[campdav] BondLady Very powerful presentation

[BondLady] super important part of this article  sure is  so that was the end of this article any 1 have any thing to add to it?  there just about ready to change everything or let it fly the way its been

[grashopa] yep

[BondLady] and thats not going to happen

[grashopa] nope

[BondLady] this was a huge study and debate and you all should really really read it again in the forum to absorb all its said

[grashopa] I've read it twice already

[BondLady] there saying the end must justify the means  an if it cost like they said prior to this like 172 billon to do this project

[campdav] BondLady WOWWWWWWWWWWWW

[BondLady] then the economy and private sector has to be able to keep the rate the cbi wants to give it to make all these things happen or it'll defeat its purpose

[BondLady] anywho theres a ton more to all this an really you all need to read it again when you can read at your own pace

[campdav] Can the private sector withstand an increase of the rate?  Yes

[BondLady] but i've kind of shown you all the road map to all of this going on now in the last 3 yrs

[campdav] As demonstrated

[BondLady] its coming along for sure but they were so slow to get what shabs told them needed to happen

[campdav] Will this be a boots to the economy and straddle inflation? I believe so

[BondLady] now there rushing in like blind mice to make mountains move  and this is good

[campdav] boost

[BondLady] but they have to enact and pass all the laws that brings all this fortune about  like the distribution of 25% of the oil profits to the people   sure that law got passed

[grashopa] it's 1 thing to pass the laws.....................and another to inact them............

[BondLady] but without the census and the hcl  they cant do it and finishing up art 140 as that requires moving people to differant places hence changing the census results so all these things are tied together to do one, imo you must do them all to make it work and thats where there at now and now they have the infrastructure laws also at parl

[campdav] Wondering aside from the HCl how many more laws need to be enacted?

[BondLady] which will allow many global investors in and cut the red tape they have put on this whole process over 100 there backward and some laws have expiration dates if not enacted then they have to start all over on them and fight some more 3 blind mice  thank you

JOSEY WALES POST, 4 SEPT

[Josey Wales] Good morning fellow Dinarian’s. I hope everyone had a great holiday weekend with family and friends. It seems as if the news as of late is all over the place. One thing we can take from all of the difference of opinions is, WE ARE CLOSER WITH EVERY PASSING DAY. I know this does not satisfy our want and need for our investment to come to an end, but, I believe, as do many others, that there is much more than just the IQD/VND revaluation going on here. 

We can all agree, hours feel like days, days feel like months, and months feel like years. As hard as it is to stay positive, WE MUST SEE THIS THROUGH. Remember all of the talk about the Wizard behind the curtain keeping us guessing? Well it is working. As much info/intel that all of us think we know, in reality, there are only a handful of people worldwide that truly know what is really happening, and when it may be triggered. 

Without our contribution as speculators and investors, THE PLAN could have never been held together. We are, and were truly needed to stabilize the value of the IQD so that the PLAN could be implemented. So when you feel down, or feel like you losing hope, just remember, WE ARE ALL PLAYING A VITAL ROLE in this global event. 

Today is a great day to get re-energized about our investment. Get your plans laid out, and know the important step that you will take so you are prepared to take that trip down the yellow brick road……..Josey Wales

TUCO POST, 4 SEPT

From Tuco:

GREETINGS ALL,PRAYING FOR A SAFE HOLIDAY.my last post was march 31,2012. (important that you read former posts below) new info from wall street indicates that cash out should be september 12,2012.

 if this does not happen i will contact my son and ask him to inquire of his contacts.

Look,I CAN'T SAY WHOM THE CONTACTS ARE ANYMORE THAN DAN,TONY OR GARY CAN SAY WHOM THEIR CONTACTS ARE.NO THERE IS NO WEB SITE. 

although i stated before about the printing of money by iran and the taliban,which still could be true,the important thing is the 3-31-2012 post stated september was our month.  #1 tuco

Economic Editorial: Inflation; Heavy legacy inherited Iraq and shook confidence in its national currency, 4 sept


Economic Editorial: Inflation; Heavy legacy inherited Iraq and shook confidence in its national currency

Date: 04/09/2012 12:13:23 Tuesday
Baghdad (news) / report / dreams Furaiji / .. inflation .. Recipe has become inherent in the Iraqi economy since the early nineties of the last century as a result of the siege and successive wars, and the subsequent paralysis almost entirely for domestic production after 2003.
large handful of local currency, is worth only a commodity is very simple, and confidence shaken, and money means big does not want people campaign to weight, but prefer an international currency more stable and less quantity, and often the U.S. dollar, those are the main symptoms of economic inflation experiencing rates up continues. member Economic Commission MP / coalition in Iraq / Qusay Fri Abadi, said (of the Agency news): “The inflation rate rises unreasonably also confirms the reality of the situation in Iraq,” expressing his surprise at the words of the Central Bank that the inflation rate fell to (6%). explained: that the central bank is able to reduce the rate of inflation by increasing the dollar supply and reduce the demand for it , which leads to lower its value against the Iraqi dinar.
stressed: that imports and limited domestic production led to the escape of hard currency and raise the rate of inflation, calling, the federal government and the central bank to activate the private sector explained dollar for banks and reduce the unemployment rate and to encourage investment, to fight inflation. As a member of Economic Commission MP / National Alliance / Amer Al-Fayez, stressed during a recent (the news) that the federal government did not provide any measure scientific to reduce the rate of inflation do not care about higher rates. attributed Fayez: reasons for the high rates of inflation to neglect the key element in supporting the economy and the fulfillment of a sector Special.
explained: that the fundamental solution to reduce the rate of inflation is deleted three zeros from the Iraqi currency and revalue against the U.S. dollar, to absorb inflation, as well as support the industry, trade, agriculture and the private sector.
while recommended by the Economic Commission MP / National Alliance / Ibrahim Rikabi , diversifying sources of income the state to reduce inflation rates, noting that the increase of the operating budget and low investment budget is the cause of rising inflation due to the distribution of salaries tremendous staff not Ikdon service.
said: that the agricultural sector in Iraq almost nil and there is no national industry fact, what led to high inflation rates, so you must open investment and activate the sector free market and the role of agriculture, industry and reduce the unemployment rate to tackle inflation.
was reported earlier talked about the high rate of annual inflation to 140.7% due to higher prices of housing, electricity and food, which was denied by the central bank adviser appearance Mohammed Saleh, stressing: that inflation rates fluctuate constantly between high and low, but it does not affect the economy of the Iraqi market. explained: that the highest level of inflation is 6.7% and oscillates to be up 5%, a percentage that does not require a fear of economic disaster. In the view member of the Finance Committee MP / Kurdistan Alliance / Najiba Najib, the high rate of inflation came from Iraq’s dependence on oil imports and the lack of domestic production.
said Najib: that conditions throughout the Middle East to help the growth of inflation and rising rates, stressing the importance of diversifying sources building the economy through support of religious tourism and banking sector and support the industry and agriculture to reduce inflation. A member of the Finance Committee MP / National Alliance / Haitham al-Jubouri: that higher inflation rates earned on higher prices for services such as housing and electricity.
confirmed Jubouri: that encourage housing and distribution of residential land ease inflation, calling, the Central Bank to take action to raise the exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar and avoid the arrival of inflation to high levels is difficult to avoid. Economists expect to see inflation rates during the month of September this significant increase, according to data from the Ministry of Planning compared to what the outcome of the prices during the festival mushrooms and predecessors. In this context, economic analyst nice Abdulsalam (of the Agency news): There unexpected rise in inflation rates globally, as witnessed in July and August a significant rise in inflation rates and is expected to this month will rise further. attributed analyst Economic out rising inflation in Iraq to sizeable foreign debt that he inherited the country from the former regime.
pointed out: that the exchange is justified in government departments and the space of financial and administrative corruption has led to high rates of Altdkhmn alongside remnants of the former regime, which is the basis of the problem. between: that address the high rates of inflation depends on the central bank raised interest rates on deposits in order to encourage the deposit money in banks in order to absorb excess liquidity. continued: should adopt a policy of effective tax on imported goods, and determine the size of spending in the operating budget and reduced compared budgetary investment to curb inflation.
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