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Monday, September 3, 2012

OKIEOILMAN CHAT, PART1, 3 SEPT


[..OKIEOILMAN] I WAS JUST THINKING THE OTHER DAY THAT THIS SITE IS THE MOST WELL MAINTAINED AND OVERSEEN SITE AND HAS THE ABSOLUTELY BEST MOD'S THAT ANY SITE EVER HAS BEEN HONORED TO HAVE.--IT IS THE MOD'S THAT HAS MADE THIS CHRISTIAN ORIENTED SITE POSSIBLE AND HAS GIVEN ME THE HONOR OF BEING A MEMBER HERE. I AM A MEMBER JUST AS ANY OF YOU AND EACH OF YOU IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS I OR ANYONE ELSE IS. THIS SITE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NAMED---"OUR BELIEVER'S SITE"

[donc0725] Okie - what if any role does Iraq have on the release of this event, RV?

[..OKIEOILMAN] DONCO725--NONE NOW--PREVIOUSLY THEY HAD IMPLICATIONS BUT SIGNED THE AUTHORITY OVER TO THE B.I.S. SEVERAL MONTHS AGO

[AHBA5] ..OKIEOILMAN Were is China in all of this sir? Do they still hold any cards? Tyvm

[..OKIEOILMAN] SLOW DOWN JUST A LITTLE PLEASE----AHBAS--CHINA ALWAY'S HAS A FINGER INTO ANY INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS

[JBK] ..OKIEOILMAN So if O is the hold up it would seem if he doesn't get it done by the end of the convention he will not get the bang for his campaigne. Correct????
[..OKIEOILMAN] JBK--TIMING IS EVERYTHING IN POLITIC'S--LET'S SEE IF HE GET'S A BUMP IN THE POLL'S--HE HAS NO RECORD TO RUN ON AND NEED'S ANY EXTRANEOUS (SP) HELP FROM ANY SOURCE HE CAN GET---(BUT NOT MINE)

[abbababy] OKIEOILMAN Good Afternoon and thank you for coming in to chat with us. Are you thinking that O has blamed GW for the last 4 yrs for everything that he does not want to take responsibility for, but now he is going to try & take credit for this wonderful extraordianry plan? How low can he already go? God Bless you & you will always have my prayers and respect

[..OKIEOILMAN] ABBABABY--AN IMMEASURABLE DEPTH

[chasen] ..OKIEOILMAN Will this come with fanfair (to O's advantage) as the saving of the world or will it be quiet and cloaked as QE3 IYO?

[..OKIEOILMAN] CHASEN--TIME WILL PROVE THAT THEORY

[..OKIEOILMAN] I SEE WHERE THE OBAMA'S HAS PURCHASED A 35 MILLION DOLLAR ESTATE IN HAWAII WITH TENATIVE OCCUPANCY DATE OF BEING 2013----THAT WITHIN ITSELF SHOULD GIVE YOU AN INDICATION OF WHAT APPEAR'S TO BE THE WRITING ON THE WALL

[bestlife] ..OKIEOILMAN vic1 told us to watch the National Debt Board. He said 16 trillion was important! Do you know what will happen when it hits 16trillion?

[..OKIEOILMAN] BESTLIFE--YEP--IT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW--SUCH INSURMOUNTABLE DEBT CANNOT BE ERASED OVERNIGHT REGARDLESS OF WHO THE NEXT PRES WILL BE--THAT WILL TAKE TIME--ALSO GOING BACK TO THE GOLD STANDARD SHOULD BE FACTORED INTO THAT EQUATION

[chasen] ..OKIEOILMAN heard global debt forgivnees will be part of the reset of the world economy. Your thoughts?

[..OKIEOILMAN] CHASEN--IN YOUR DREAM'S

[..OKIEOILMAN] WHAT WERE COMMENTING ON HERE DOES NOT JUSTIFY BEING PUT IN FORUM--SOME OF MY STATEMENT'S WILL SEEM TOO CONTROVERSAL FOR CERTAIN OTHER'S--I SHOULD NEVER HAVE MADE SOME OF THE STATEMENT'S I DID BUT I FEEL TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL AND SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO SOME INDIVIDUAL'S ATTENTION--KNOW THE TRUTH AND IT SHALL SET YOU FREE.

[..OKIEOILMAN] 14 QUESTIONS AT ONCE--PLEASE ADDRESS EACH ONE AND GIVE ME TIME TO ANSWER--I AM A SPEED READER AND TYPER BUT CAN'T KEEP UP

[hog1] ..OKIEOILMAN : Has the Lord given you any specific insight over the last few days. I know you hear from Him and HE is the NO.1 Intel provider.

[..OKIEOILMAN] HOG1--HE HAS NOT CALLED YET TODAY

Dovesfreedom] OKIEOILMAN......so does this mean we are now back on the shelf for awhile?

[..OKIEOILMAN] DOVESFREEDOM---WHERE DID YOU GET THAT FROM---CERTAINLY NOT FROM ME

[IshMan] Okie. Does our Treasury not hold some 5 trillion Dinar? And over 10 years or more, won't exchange of these in oil trade with Iraq pay off the entire national debt... if we don't continue to spend at current levels?

[..OKIEOILMAN] ISHMAN--ALWAY'S REMEMBER --HISTORICALLY--WHEN OUR GOVERMENT GET'S MONEY--THEY SPEND IT

[..OKIEOILMAN] IF OUR GOVERMENT WAS IN CHARGE OF THE SAHARI DESERT IN 5 YEAR'S THEY WOULD HAVE A SHORTAGE OF SAND

[bigauty] Okie... your last post said O had no "control over this occurring or power to stop it"... I no he can't stop it, but how can he delay it if he has no control over it,s

[..OKIEOILMAN] BIGAUTY-EVIDENTIALLY YOU HAVE NOT BEEN EXPOSED TO THE INNER WORKING OF POLITIC'S

[..OKIEOILMAN] EVERYTHING IS POLITICALLY MOTIVATED AND THE PREMIER RULE OF POLITIC'S IS---NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE

[jutta11] ..OKIEOILMAN Should we still be prepared for possibly no codes and possibly opening an account at Chase or some other bank in your opinion? thanks for your wonderful guidance.

[..OKIEOILMAN] JUTTA11--THAT'S A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY--THAT IS BEING DEFINED FOR US PRESENTLY

[..OKIEOILMAN] EVEN THOUGH WE'RE AT THE END OF THE ROAD THERE ARE STILL DETAIL'S BEING WORKED OUT

[jwaynec] ..OKIEOILMAN any indication of how long for details to be worked out?

[..OKIEOILMAN] JWAYNEC--VERY MINOR ISSUE'S BEING WORKED OUT TODAY

[hog1] ..OKIEOILMAN: College Football Question: Who will win the SEC this year???

[..OKIEOILMAN] HOG--THE BEST TEAM

[marchingon2] ..OKIEOILMAN ...are all the issues minor and will speed this thing along?

[..OKIEOILMAN] MARCHINGON2--YEP

[WWJD] Okie, sounds like the whole process has been simplified for all the green ligths to go....would you say that could sum up the situation

[..OKIEOILMAN] WWJD--BARRING MURPHY'S LAW--YEP

[ram1] ..OKIEOILMAN Has there been anymore information about us using codes for CE?

[..OKIEOILMAN] RAM--PART OF WHAT IS BEING FINALIZED TODAY

kemosabe] On a scale of 1 to 10... (1 the lowest and 10 the highest)... What's your chances of the RV happening this week?

[..OKIEOILMAN] KEMOSABE--LOOKING GOOD PRESENTLY

[COUNTRYTUFF1] Okie why is there a chance of no codes now? I don't understand this

[..OKIEOILMAN] COUNTRYTUFF1--ONCE AGAIN--THIS IS BEING WORKED OUT TODAY

[tjthedJ] no date no rate - Info about the dong?

[..OKIEOILMAN] NOJO--YOU CHOOSE YOUR OWN BANKING INSTITUION

[..OKIEOILMAN] TJTHEDJ--BEING DECIDED TODAY ALSO ABOUT WHAT IS TO BE INCLUSIVE IN THE FIRST BASKET

[denhel] ..OKIEOILMAN Hi Okie is all this affecting the dong

[..OKIEOILMAN] DENHEL--YOU CAN'T UNSCRAMBLE EGG'S--YES

[coffeeluver] ..OKIEOILMAN THank you for your time.Have been praying for your rest and mental strength as well. My question, Many are watching the Forex as a guage for world RV measures. Can you shar how this is not really accurate at this time if possible and why?

[..OKIEOILMAN] COFFELUVER--FIRST OF ALL LET ME CORRECT A MIS-CONCEPTION--THE RATE HAS TO BE PUBLISHED ON THE BANK SCREEN'S AND GIVEN A VALUE BEFORE IT IS POSTED ON A FORE-X SITE (OF WHICH ONLY BANK'S HAS THE PRIVY TOO AND NOT THE FREE SITE'S YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU ON THE INTERNET) THE BANK'S HAS A SUBSCRIPTION THAT IS THE BIBLE OF RATE'S NOT AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC FOR SEVERAL DAY'S

[..OKIEOILMAN] YOU TOTALLY WASTE YOUR TIME CHASING THE FORE-X SITES ON THE INTERNET BECAUSE OF THE LAG TIME BETWEEN ACTUAL POSTING ON THE BANK SCREEN'S AND AVAILABILITY ON THE INTERNET SITES.

[mardom] ..OKIEOILMAN first basket? Is there more than one basket? If so, can you explain how this works?

[..OKIEOILMAN] MARDOM--DETERMINED BY PRIORITY STATUS--THE NEEDEST COUNTRIES FIRST--THEN OTHER'S FOLLOW

[jimbucks] ..OKIEOILMAN Do you feel there will be a limit on the time available to make an exchange? If so, how long?

[keiji] ..OKIEOILMAN I know you are a man of discernment. Based on that and intel, do you feel this is really it this time? TY

[..OKIEOILMAN] JIMBUCKS--DEPENDS ON WHETHER CODES OR A STRAIGHT R/V

[..OKIEOILMAN] KEIJI--YES

[obxlady1] ..OKIEOILMAN, thank you for being the voice of reason! Do you know if how and if we will be taxed on our blessing is also being discussed still.

[..OKIEOILMAN] OBXLADY--ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES PROFIT---PUT'S INTO A TAXATION SITUATION

[oldtree] Would 16 trillion be considered needy?

[..OKIEOILMAN] OLDTREE--DEPENDS ON WHETHER OTHER COUNTRIES SUCH AS THE EUROPEAN COMMUNITY NEED'S IT FIRST--THIS IS DECIDED BY THE IMF

[dautch] ..OKIEOILMAN I heard earlier, China was originally pushing for the VND to RV....now we don't hear so much about that any more. Is there a reason why? TYVM

[..OKIEOILMAN] DAUTCH--THAT'S BECAUSE YOUR NOT PRIVIED TO WHAT'S OCCURING--STILL THE SAME SCENARIO

[ram1] ..OKIEOILMAN Does the US still have to pay us more at CE due to a penalty for holding this up as mentioned in the past?

[..OKIEOILMAN] PLEASE----

[..OKIEOILMAN] RAM--RUMOR

[Diverdown] Okie r u hearing or fealing this is our week or month?

[..OKIEOILMAN] DIVERDOWN-YEP

[berto1812] ..OKIEOILMAN do you feel that kuwait will rv also? ty sir

[..OKIEOILMAN] BERTO-UNSURE TILL RATES APPEAR

[JBK] ..OKIEOILMAN What makes this time different from the others when it was expected?

[..OKIEOILMAN] JBK-THE COMING TOGETHER OF ALL INTERESTED ENTITY'S AND AGREEMENTS SIGNED

[bernard] Is there any significance to the US delegation being in Bagdag today?

[..OKIEOILMAN] BERNARD--YES--TO CHASTIZE IRAQ GOVERMENT FOR SUBVERTING IRANIAN SANCTION'S

[jutta11] ..OKIEOILMAN You indicated the DMC possibility. I was considering that if it rv'd on this date, the UST has 3.8 billion dinars which could zero out the debt clock. Could this be the plan?

[marchingon2] ..OKIEOILMAN ...then if all came together, are we now awaiting the decision on what banks?

[..OKIEOILMAN] JUTTA11--MAKES NO DIFFERENCE

[..OKIEOILMAN] MARCHINGON1-NO

[..OKIEOILMAN] NEXT

[TLane] ..OKIEOILMAN Is there anything else that you could tell us that you feel would help us all sleep better tonight?

[..OKIEOILMAN] TLANE-YES--NYQUILL AND TAKE A DOUBLE DOSE

[dnidar3] Do you still feel as though today will be our last day of "labor" as stated yesterday?

[..OKIEOILMAN] DNIDAR3--APPEARS POSSIBLE AND MOST PROBABLE

[aberry] ..OKIEOILMAN is the delegation in iraq there to delay this

[..OKIEOILMAN] ABERRY--ABSOLUTELY NOT

[dautch] ..OKIEOILMAN At one time we had 195 countries involved in an RV, now we're down to 20. Can you help me understand that or was that number incorrect? TYVM

[..OKIEOILMAN] DAUTCH--AT LAST COUNT I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE ABOUR 128 COUNTRIES INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL AS OVER 70 DIFFERENT PROGRAM'S ALSO

[..OKIEOILMAN] ABOUT

[bernard] Are you of the opinion that all of the prosperity programs will fall under the Farm Claims basket?

[..OKIEOILMAN] BERNARD--NO--SEPERATE PROGRAM'S--DIFFERENT BUT SIMULAR

[alphadog71] Is it your understanding the asset backed currency program starts on Tuesday and will it affect our CE?

[..OKIEOILMAN] ALPLHA--THAT'S SOUNDING LIKE WHAT I AM HEARING

[olefaithful] ..OKIEOILMAN What do you know about the Prosperity Packages?

[..OKIEOILMAN] OLEFAITHFUL--VERY COMPLEX AND COMPLICATED AND WOULD TAKE VOLUMES TO EXPLAIN--DETAILS ARE NOT AS IMPORTANT AS KNOWING YOU ARE INVOLVED AND IF YOUR NOT THEN YOUR WASTING YOUR TIME ASKING

[IshMan] Okie. Is the final IQD rate posted in the bank system now? Can the banks' currency desks see the rate, though it is not live?

[..OKIEOILMAN] ISHMAN--BACK CORPORATE SCREEN'S WILL REFLECT RATE'S FIRST BEFORE FILTERING DOWN TO THE TELLERS SCREEN AT WHICH TIME IT WILL BE ACTIVE AND LIVE

[coffeehound17] ..OKIEOILMAN -Since it will be our choosing of bank institution.....will there still be disclosure agreements we sign as to check out other institutions for the highest possible rate, or is that part of what is getting figured out today as a set rate? Thank you sir.

[..OKIEOILMAN] COFFEEHOUND17--IF IT'S A STRAIGHT R/V THEN N.D.A. WILL NOT APPLY

[bdboy] Okieoilman..Since you are in the oil business...do you know if the story about BP and Gull Island in Prudo Bay Alaska are true. Largest oil reserve ever found...

[JBK] ..OKIEOILMAN With the global economic catastrophe doesn't this CE have to happen pronto before some of these countries completelh collapse???

[..OKIEOILMAN] BDBOY--MANY RESERVES BEING DISCOVERED WORLD WIDE NOW

[..OKIEOILMAN] JBK--CRYSTAL BALL FUZZY--BUT--SOME RELIEF FROM SOMEWHERE IS NEEDED INTERNATIONALLY

[..OKIEOILMAN] USD AS WELL AS ALL CURRIENCIES ARE APPROACHING CRISIS POINT AND DEPENDING ON WHAT IS DECIDED ON THE USD STILL RETAINING IT'S STATUS AS THE ONLY WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY WILL DETERMINE THE LONGEVITY OF THE USD

[grace4me2] How will becoming asset based effect the CE?

[..OKIEOILMAN] GRACE--IMPROVE THE STABILITY OF FIAT CURRENCY (PAPER MONEY)

[ladygonealot] ..OKIEOILMAN Just wanted to ask if the people who have placed their dinar with a bank several weeks ago will be at the same rate as we who will exchange after the rate posts?

[..OKIEOILMAN] LADYGONEALOT--SAME-O----SAME-O

[sue47] ..OKIEOILAN- I just got on this afternoon - glad to see you. Do you know for sure if the VND is in the basket?

[..OKIEOILMAN] SUE--PRIORITIES ARE BEING ESTABLISHED TODAY BY IMF

[medusa1130 ] OKIEOILMAN has the decision been made about the codes yet? I know you had said it was being decided but was undecided as of yet.

[..OKIEOILMAN] MEDUSA--SAME ANSWER AS ABOVE

 [hotrod33] Okie where are you going on vacation when this is done

[..OKIEOILMAN] HOTROD33--TOO BED

[mardom] ..OKIEOILMAN Previously mentioned, was that we would need to set an appt. with the bank. I know the codes are another issue, will there still need to be an appt with the banks? Thankyou

[..OKIEOILMAN] MARDOM--UNSURE

[reglou] What is the difference between an RV with codes and just a RV?

[..OKIEOILMAN] REGIOU--APPLES AND ORANGES

[charlie] ..OKIEOILMAN Is there any possiblity of our blessing going past thanksgiving 2012?

[..OKIEOILMAN] CHARLIE--SHOULDN'T

[MISPLACEDBUCKEYE] ..OKIEOILMAN even with the asset base will the usd still be backed by gold or something else

[..OKIEOILMAN] MISPLACEDBUCKEYE--ACCORDING TO THE NEW BANKING REGULATIONS ADOPTED BY THE WORLD WIDE CENTRAL BANK'S ALL FIAT (PAPER MONEY) IS REQUIRED TO BE BACKED BY 20 PER CENT GOLD AND 80 PER CENT COMMODITIES SUCH AS OIL-WHEAT-RICE-CORN-URANIUM-COPPER-SILVER-ETC-ETC-ETC

[demontrosier] ..OKIEOILMAN There has not been very much talks about the EURO, shouldn't it collapse by now?

[..OKIEOILMAN] DEMONTROSIER--AS LONG AS THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF GERMANY IS STILL FUNCTIONAL THE EURO WILL SURVIVE BE IT ONLY FOR A SHORT WHILE TILL THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES GOES BACK TO THEIR ORIGIONAL CURRENCY

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PART 2

[sharonsdinar1] If this goes back to no codes and WF isn't the main exchange site would the dealers be our best bet..

[..OKIEOILMAN] SHARON--FOR 4 YEARS NOW I HAVE SAID (AND WITH GOOD REASON) BANK'S--BANK'S--BANK'S!!!!!!

[sooneriam] ..OKIEOILMAN Do you think folks will have to pitch a tent at the banks? Or will there be a rate lock for oom as planned?

[..OKIEOILMAN] SOONERIAM--IF AND I SAID IF--IT'S A TRUE R/V THEN THERE WILL BE NO RUSH NECESSARY

[texasgirl1] Will there be a difference between the rate of the dealers and the rate of the banks?

[..OKIEOILMAN] TEXASGIRL--BANKS--BANKS--BANKS--IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH?

[reglou] What is the difference between an RV with codes and just a RV?

[..OKIEOILMAN] REGIOU--APPLES AND ORANGES

[MISPLACEDBUCKEYE] ..OKIEOILMAN even with the asset base will the usd still be backed by gold or something else
 ..OKIEOILMAN] MISPLACEDBUCKEYE--ACCORDING TO THE NEW BANKING REGULATIONS ADOPTED BY THE WORLD WIDE CENTRAL BANK'S ALL FIAT (PAPER MONEY) IS REQUIRED TO BE BACKED BY 20 PER CENT GOLD AND 80 PER CENT COMMODITIES SUCH AS OIL-WHEAT-RICE-CORN-URANIUM-COPPER-SILVER-ETC-ETC-ETC

[demontrosier] ..OKIEOILMAN There has not been very much talks about the EURO, shouldn't it collapse by now?

[..OKIEOILMAN] DEMONTROSIER--AS LONG AS THE ECONOMIC ENGINE OF GERMANY IS STILL FUNCTIONAL THE EURO WILL SURVIVE BE IT ONLY FOR A SHORT WHILE TILL THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES GOES BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL CURRENCY

[sharonsdinar1] If this goes back to no codes and WF isn't the main exchange site would the dealers be our best bet..

[..OKIEOILMAN] SHARON--FOR 4 YEARS NOW I HAVE SAID (AND WITH GOOD REASON) BANK'S--BANK'S--BANK'S!!!!!!

[sooneriam] ..OKIEOILMAN Do you think folks will have to pitch a tent at the banks? Or will there be a rate lock for oom as planned?

[..OKIEOILMAN] SOONERIAM--IF AND I SAID IF--IT'S A TRUE R/V THEN THERE WILL BE NO RUSH NECESSARY

texasgirl1] Will there be a difference between the rate of the dealers and the rate of the banks?

[..OKIEOILMAN] TEXASGIRL--BANKS--BANKS--BANKS--IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH?

[destiny] ..OKIEOILMAN Hello..Any news in regaurds to the Iraq coins being released..or is this just a rumor?

[..OKIEOILMAN] DESTINY--GOLD COINS RELEASED LAST WEEK AND COIN'S OF LESSER VALUE SCHEDULED FOR RELEASE THIS WEEK

[montana1] ..OKIEOILMAN Following up on sooneriam's question - will there still be a rate lock for oom people?

[..OKIEOILMAN] MONTANA1--ALL WILL BE TREATED THE SAME IF IT IS A STRAIGHT RV

[kboh] is all the information being written down so a book can be writen i for one would love to know the truth.

[..OKIEOILMAN] KBOH--YES--IT'S CALLED "THE BIBLE"

[TonyOutWest] Is your non disclosure agreement still in effect?

[..OKIEOILMAN] TONY--YES--BUT I'M ABOUT TO RELEASE MYSELF FROM THAT IF THING'S DON'T TRANSPIRE AS I AM TOLD THEY WILL

BWAK] ..OKIEOILMAN do you think the announcement will be during the day or night

[bernard] Do you know the health status of Talibani?

..OKIEOILMAN] BWAL AMD BERMARD--TOTALLY IRRELEVANT QUESTIONS AT THIS JUNCTURE

[sbdairy] OKIEOILMAN - dumb question, what is a straight rv?

[..OKIEOILMAN] SBDAIRY--A SET RATE RECOGNIZED WORLD WIDE OF THE SAME VALUE

[mardom] If it is not a true rv what kind of rv would it be, is there a chance there will need to be immediacy in the exchange?

[..OKIEOILMAN] MARDOM--BEST QUESTION OF THE DAY--CONSIDER THIS--IRAQ IS LOCATED EXACTLY HALF WAY BETWEEN IRAN AND ISRAEL THAT IRAN HAS PROMISED TO ERASE FROM THE MAP. ALSO IT BORDERS SYRIA --THE HOT SPOT'S OF THE ENTIRE WORLD--THIS R'V COULD GO SOUTH JUST AS FAST AS IT OCCUR'S--WHY TAKE A CHANCE ON SUCH A VOLINTILE SITUATION--REMEMBER THIS--IT'S BETTER TO HAVE PART OF SOMETHING THAN ALL OF NOTHING

[BigMac] ..OKIEOILMAN Hi Sir---Are you excited?

[..OKIEOILMAN] BIGMAC--NOPE--RAN OUT OF VIAGRA LAST NIGHT

[tweety] ..OKIEOILMAN Will our accounts at whatever bank still need to be non-interest bearing?

[..OKIEOILMAN] TWEETY FOR SAFETY SAKE---YES

[mickey29] ..OKIEOILMAN good afternoon glad to see you on today miss you Smile still all good news for today Internation Currency Exchange?

[..OKIEOILMAN] MICKEY--THUS FAR TODAY IS A GOOD INTEL DAY

[sas] Any opinion whether or not Iran and North Korea holding hands could effect the RV?

[..OKIEOILMAN] SAS--NO RELEVANCE

[pamster] my concern is do I have enough dinars to retire and help the folks around me. I have under a million should I try to get more

[..OKIEOILMAN] PAMSTER--IS THERE STILL TIME?--YOUR PERSONAL DECISION AND NONE OF MY BUSINESS

[bernard] Are you relying on any new sources or trusting in your old ones.

[..OKIEOILMAN] BERNARD--WHEN YOUR NEW'S IS FROM THE TOP----YOU DON'T LOOK DOWN FOR INFO

[lowkey32] after the reset and will our goverment still be admirality law under the ucc

[..OKIEOILMAN] LOWKEY32--THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DECIDED BY THE SUPREME COURT

[kyf58] Any coins that would be released next week, would have to have a $ "value" associated with them BEFORE being circulated. Does this mean that all of the currencies in Irag, paper and coin would have to be announced prior? TUYM!

[..OKIEOILMAN] KYF58--VERY LOGICAL ASSUMPTION

[bigmac_01] ..OKIEOILMAN i always filled the rate would be about 7.00 dollar do you fill like it could be that high

[..OKIEOILMAN] BIGMAC--HOPEFULLY BUT I FEEL THAT MAY BE EXCESSIVE

[mickey29] ..OKIEOILMAN are you still gagged?

[..OKIEOILMAN] MICKEY29—SUPPOSEDLY

[sims] the fact that iraq has announced that they are going to start giveing the people 25 % of the money from thoil resirves tell you anything ?

[..OKIEOILMAN] SIMS--YES--THEIR PEOPLE AT LONG LAST IS GOING TO GET A DESERVED RELIEF--

[malo0o] Okie...Do you think the VND will RV with the IQD

[..OKIEOILMAN] MALO00--SHOULD BE CLOSE TOGETHER--DETERMINATION OF PLACEMENT IN BASKET IS BEING DECIDED TODAY

[kyf58] Any coins that would be released next week, would have to have a $ "value" associated with them BEFORE being circulated. Does this mean that all of the currencies in Irag, paper and coin would have to be announced prior? TUYM!

[..OKIEOILMAN] KYF58--VERY LOGICAL ASSUMPTION

[bigmac_01] ..OKIEOILMAN i always filled the rate would be about 7.00 dollar do you fill like it could be that high

[..OKIEOILMAN] BIGMAC--HOPEFULLY BUT I FEEL THAT MAY BE EXCESSIVE

[sims] the fact that iraq has announced that they are going to start giveing the people 25 % of the money from thoil resirves tell you anything ?

[..OKIEOILMAN] SIMS--YES--THEIR PEOPLE AT LONG LAST IS GOING TO GET A DESERVED RELIEF--

[malo0o] Okie...Do you think the VND will RV with the IQD

[..OKIEOILMAN] MALO00--SHOULD BE CLOSE TOGETHER--DETERMINATION OF PLACEMENT IN BASKET IS BEING DECIDED TODAY

[Jester] no question that hasn't been answered... I would like to thank you for your words of encouragement and perserverance... thhose words help a lot of us here to get by when we don't have anything else to rely on... thank you and God bless...

[..OKIEOILMAN] YW JESTER--BLESSINGS ON YOU AND FAMILY

mickey29] ..OKIEOILMAN sorry just came on a couple of minutes ago if this was asked did you hear anything about the taxes on C E ?

[..OKIEOILMAN] WWSR2001--NEVER TURNED DOWN A FREE MEAL YET

[wwsr2001] Thank you SIR

[..OKIEOILMAN] MICKEY29--HIRE YOU THE BEST TAX ATTORNEY AVAILABLE

[Mrs.Nightrider] from what time zone are the decisions being decided today or does time zone make a difference

[..OKIEOILMAN] MRS NIGHTRIDER--JUST LIKE TRYING TO PREDICT WHERE AND WHEN LIGHTNING WILL STRIKE

[1dutch] ..OKIEOILMAN with all of the decisions being made today do you think you will be able to give us the outcome later today or tomorrow?

[..OKIEOILMAN] DUTCH--DEPENDS ON INFORMATION OBTAINED LATER TODAY

[mulenhorseymama] ..OKIEOILMAN Do you think when this hits it will be a frenzy at the banks?

[..OKIEOILMAN] MULENHORSEYMAMA--NOPE--SHOULD BE ADEQUATE TIME TO AVOID FOOT PRINT'S ON YOUR BACK GETTING INTO THE BANK

[mickey29] ..OKIEOILMAN are the codes for WF bank only or all of the top 5 banks?

[..OKIEOILMAN] MICKEY--CODES OR NO CODES--THAT IS THE QUESTION NOW

[ratjman] ..OKIEOILMAN are we still going to have phone numbers to set apts are has everything changed if ask I am sorry had to step out

[..OKIEOILMAN] RATJMAN--INFORMATION WILL BE FURNISHED YOU WHEN TIMING IS APPROPRIATE

[TLane] ..OKIEOILMAN Can you please come by and post a small paragraph at least once a day?

[..OKIEOILMAN] TLANE--DOUBTFUL, UNLESS INTEL (NEW) DICTATES

[bdboy] OKIEOILMAN. Do you think the dollar will remain the worlds reserve currency or will we have more than one. Have heard up to five.

[..OKIEOILMAN] BDBOUY--CRYSTAL BALL FUZZY

crawdaddy] just got home from work, first thanks for all your hard work, and hows bull dog doing, haven't seen him in a coons age

[..OKIEOILMAN] CRAWDADDY--BULLDOG IN TE DOG POUND--THEY COUGHT HIM WITHOUT HIS COLLAR ON

[AHBA5] ..OKIEOILMAN Will this be a managed float or a dirty float...or will we have any idea?

[..OKIEOILMAN] AHBA5 THAT IS TO BE DETERMINED

[Nanlee] Okie,do you know how to find out or who to find out from about CE after RV in Ecuador.

[..OKIEOILMAN] NANLEE-NOPE

[dinarbeliever] ...okieoilman - Thank you for all you do. Why are they making decisions today? Did things change from previous decisions? Can these decisions push us back awhile? thanks.

[specialchild] OKIE OIL MAN. Please forgive me if this question has already been asked! You mention the dong may not come out with the dinar. Any changes on this thought?

[..OKIEOILMAN] BELIEVER--EVERYTHING IS UNDER CONTROL---SPECIALCHILD--BEING DETERMINED TODAY

[.schooler] ..OKIEOILMAN Is there posibility of this being like when Kuwait rv'd... high for short time, then lower for perm term? is that one type of an rv??

[..OKIEOILMAN] SCHOOLER--AS I UNDERSTAND IT--RATE WILL HOLD FOR AWHILE AS PER IMF MANDATES

[ddsnp] Will we be able to use our local banking institutions

[..OKIEOILMAN] DDSNP--ANY BANK WITH AN INTERNATIONAL CURENCY EXCHANGE SHOULD ACCOMODATE YOU

stayinpositive] Okie can you explain the difference between a managed float and a dirty float?

[..OKIEOILMAN] STAYINPOSITIVE--EITHER A SET RATE OR A RATE THAT FLUXUATES

[..OKIEOILMAN] I HOPE I HAVE SERVED YOU WELL TODAY AND PERHAP'S ENLIGHTENED YOU ON SOME SUBJECT'S THAT ARE ON ALL OF OUR MIND'S--I HAVE GIVEN YOU MOST OF WHAT I HAVE EXCEPT THE DATE AND RATE WHICH I WILL NOT OR CAN NOT REVEAL PRESENTLY--YOU HAVE WORN OUT MY FINGERS BUT NOT MY PATIENCE--MAY GOD RICHLY BLESS EACH OF YOU SPECIAL PEOPLE AND I AM HONORED TO BE A MEMBER OF "OUR SITE"----GONE

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 3 SEPT

9-3-2012  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    [what if any role does Iraq have on the release of this event, rv?]   none now--previously they had implications but signed the authority over to the B.I.S. Several months ago.   [any indication of how long for details to be worked out?] VERY MINOR ISSUE'S BEING WORKED OUT TODAY.  [What's your chances of the RV happening this week?]  LOOKING GOOD PRESENTLY.  [Based on...intel, do you feel this is really it this time?]  YES  [What makes this time different from the others when it was expected?]  THE COMING TOGETHER OF ALL INTERESTED ENTITY'S AND AGREEMENTS SIGNED.  [Do you still feel as though today will be our last day of "labor" as stated yesterday?]  APPEARS POSSIBLE AND MOST PROBABLE.

9-3-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Article:   "Allawi: We have prepared a plan to change the political map and an end to the situation “tragic” for the people" Very interesting piece!! Allawi points at a solution coming very soon…which I think is the plan, one way or the other. Either Maliki plays ball when Talibani returns from his recovery or he (Maliki) looks to be in very serious trouble.

9-3-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy    Shabibi did have one report years ago when he said the goal was to eventually return their currency to previous levels. He never once mentioned the mechanisms by which they will achieve that RV, RI, RD etc.   I do believe a RV is what we will see.  I am continually perplexed...seeing people...reference a 100,000% increase as a "Small RV." ...1 to 1 is nothing to scoff at imo.   ...eventually I think Iraq will be able to...justify a high exchange rate.  For Iraq to pull it off it's my belief they will change the peg. They've already made adjustments and none of them came close to 1 to 1 but we hope that will change.  The hope is that a big change is on the way.

9-3-2012  Boots-On-The-Ground Guru WAR  [New Guru]   I have just returned from the bank of Baghdad, Governor Sinan Shabibi is in country as of Saturday he was seen on the Iraqi news here in Baghdad.  I spoke with the bank manager Ali, “more like” I interrogated him; asking him questions about, various topics.  He told me that they have not received the coins at this time and/or the lower denominations. He said that they are still at the CBI and have not been issued and not on the streets or in the hands of shopkeepers/venders, at this time.  Also, Ali said that there are no shortage of dinar on the streets or US dollars.  And last but not least Hillary Clinton did not arrive today as expected; it was one of her subordinates which I cannot name because of security concerns.

9-3-2012  Intel Guru Freeway Bill  YES, this was suppose to happen JUNE 30, 2011 and was stopped!  YES, it was on the back screens and never made it to the front at least half dozen times that I know of for sure.  YES, IRAQ is out of the decision making process of this RV.  So many things have had to be taken care of before this RV could happen and us be assured that our money would be safe.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Well many things have happened and we are going to see this RV>>>FOR SURE>>>ABSOLUTELY!  WHEN?  Could be this week, could take another month.  According to many phone calls I got today, we are in great shape...The information that is available right now and what is happening right now is very good.   

9-3-2012  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   THERE ARE CURRENTLY OVER 70 DIFFERENT PROGRAM'S WORLD WIDE THAT IS DUE TO BE FUNDED CLOSELY TO THE C/E [CURRENCY EXCHANGE] RELEASE--THE C/E AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS THE CATYLST FOR THE OTHER PROGRAMS TO FUND.

POPPY & BGG POST, 3 SEPT

9-3-2012 Poppy3: Well, it hasn't taken long since our deligation arrives in IRAQ FOR THINGS TO CHANGE. WELL THE DELAYS ARE NOW BEING ANNOUNCED. U.S. State Dept: a planned visit to a number of ministry officials to Baghdad; There is progress in Iraq would emerge from Chapter VII Iraqi parliament will reconvene Sept 11; Will discuss Chapter VII obligations I REST MY CASE THE WRITING WAS ON THE WALL. NOW IF AND WHEN T COMES BACK THINGS WILL NOT BE TOTALLY SOLVED. THE USA IS THERE STANDING IN THE WAY OF THEIR FURTHER PROGRESS. WE CAN'T officiallly hold things up but they can sure stir these people up and keep them arguing. SORRY FOR THE BAD NEWS BUT BLAME OUR WONDERFULL ADMINISTRATION that can't keep their nose and mouth out of others business uninvited.  Shin dig will mean nothing for us with all the resistence stired up again in IRAQ they are going this time to visit several ministers and people you can expect turmoil to even get worse the more they visit. The decention has started. The chapter 7 is set to be automatically released upon the RV.

9-3-2012 BGG: Article: "Allawi: We have prepared a plan to change the political map and an end to the situation “tragic” for the people" Very interesting piece!! Allawi points at a solution coming very soon…which I think is the plan, one way or the other. Either Maliki plays ball when Talibani returns from his recovery or he (Maliki) looks to be in very serious trouble.

MED CHAT, 3 SEPT


Med (9:35 AM): GM DS

(good mornings)

argos: hi Med, harry just posted an article about deleting the zeroes. Is the second paragraph saying that they used the dinar's current exchange rate for next year's budget ?

Med: YES AND HE ALSO POSTED THAT THE DELETION OF THE ZERO'S IS WITHIN CBI'S BOUNDERIES ONE THING YOU ALL NEED TO (**********not postable**********************AND) STOP WORRYING  ABOUT EVERY ARTICLE THAT COMES OUT EVERY OTHER MINUTE

tudor: hey, I aint built that way lol
tdk: lol
argos: okay
 
Med:HAS ANYTHING  COME OUT FROM CBI  FROM SHABIBI  THAT SAYS THE PROJECT TO DELETE THE ZERO'S  IS PUT ON HOLD
  tdk: nope

tudor: not that I have seen

argos: no

tudor: no way!

calldinar: no it hasn't

Med: ONE PERSON MAKES THE CALL WHO IS THAT ???

tudor: Shabs!

argos: shabs

Casper: shabs

Med: NOW CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG BUT I DIDNT SEE HIS NAME ON ANY OF THAT CORRESPONDENCE AND I WILL BET

calldinar: me neither

Med: EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE IS FROM A D. BAG FROM THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE

tudor: no doubt

Med: I WILL BET IF THE KURDS AND THE LIST  BOTH CAME OUT AGAINST IT

cheeks: the D.bag the village IDIOT

Med: THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE WOULD BE FOR IT

tudor: hahaha how true

Dinar Investor: a never ending vicious cycle

Med: IT IS   IT IS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD AND IF ANYONE THOUGHT CUZ WE GOT RID OF A DICTATOR  THEY WOULD HAVE THE COMMON SENSE THAT GOD GAVE LITTLE GREEN APPLES

Dinar Investor: They are like a bunch of three year olds at a candy store all fighting for the same lolipop

Med: THEY DON’T HATRED IS TOUGH TO CONQUER ESPECIALLY IN SUCH AN UNEDUCATED COUNTRY LOOK AT OUR OWN COUNTRY ONLY 200 PLUS YRS  STILL HAVE RACIAL PREDJUDICE AND HATRED

tdk: thats just what i was thinking

cheeks: very true med

cks: sad but true

Dinar Investor: yet things still get done, despite all that

argos: I am guilty of doing something I said I would never do (coz I've seen other people do it) and that is jumping on every article that comes out and taking it as legit !!

Med: DONT SWEAT IT ARGOS

argos: No probs, med

tudor: human nature argos

Med:  SURE IT IS WE ARE ALL LOOKING FOR THAT ARTICLE THAT PUTS US AT THAT POT O GOLD AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW

argos: things will happen in Iraq whatever we do or say

tudor: we tend to believe first then disect

Med: YES WE DO TUDOR

MILLIONDAY CHAT, 3 SEPT

[millionday] this is what is going on with the economic meeting about raising the rate and the bringing in of the three zero currency 

[millionday] it is long but we are going to read the whole thing -- so have patience with questions please 
[millionday] Opened the round table organized by the Center for Strategic Studies in the morning newspaper in collaboration with the Economic Section Multi file deletion of zeros, which is the richest insights and analyzes the value and put points on the letters in decoding choking on a lack of understanding of the subject. And reach a group of experts who participated in this table to the fact that such an important decision and dangerous at the core of the economic problem needs to law and legislation to ensure not to fall into mistakes incurred country moral and material losses large in Iraq indispensable. For the first time in most, if not all previous economic seminars meet monetary and fiscal policies have on the table (morning) in this sporting spirit of understanding in order to solve the problem and thus contributing to the distance from the potential risks that may accompany the process of change or raise zeros. 
[millionday] The presentation was wonderful, deputy governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Dr. Mohammed Saleh of historical overview of the money and its connections as a prelude to clarify participants had enriched everyone of the importance of lifting of the zeroes and convincingly striking contrast representative of the Ministry of Finance d. Hilal Taan his vision on the procedure and despite the emergence of the intersection of the two views in the outwardly but inwardly meet monetary and fiscal policies have in one pot, but a careful to keep the national economy from additional shocks

[millionday] The presentation was wonderful, deputy governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Dr. Mohammed Saleh of historical overview of the money and its connections as a prelude to clarify participants had enriched everyone of the importance of lifting of the zeroes and convincingly striking contrast representative of the Ministry of Finance d. Hilal Taan his vision on the procedure and despite the emergence of the intersection of the two views in the outwardly but inwardly meet monetary and fiscal policies have in one pot, but a careful to keep the national economy from additional shocks
[millionday] Taan focused on the obstruction, the only way to delete the zeros is the psychological aspect of a group Iraqi traders who have devoted culture of the state and rely on the dollar, while noting the experiences of countries Other reservations تجارهم in dependence on their way to currency strength of economic activity. This analysis led to the crystallization of ideas converged on the timing of the deletion of zeros and receded in envelopes firstly provide legislative cover saves currency of qualitative behavior and secondly to create a culture of attention in the national currency and this is governed by a matter of time blaming media agencies to adopt this role.
[millionday] the time has been set 
[millionday] Many of the participants all agreed on the need to provide a suitable environment for such a move is important, acknowledging its importance due to the fact that the currency represents infrastructure sober for the country's economy, and on the grounds that the country's economic strength stems from the power of her money. The need to reform the payments system Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Dr. Mohammed Saleh pointed out that under the price stability and optimism in Iraq Development, it became necessary radical reform on the system management of currency as well as the re-structure commensurate with the price structure new and different, stable and levels of wages and salaries,
[millionday] which differed significantly from the last thirty years, as well as handle the mass of large cash weak components so that it has become the largest category currency Atsawi only $ 21 U.S. at the present time. noting that the increase in gross domestic product of Iraq from $ 140 billion at year-end 2010 to more than 300 billion dollars at the end of 2015 will increase the money supply exporting of 30 trillion dinars to about 70 trillion dinars. And weak structure in the currency structure as mentioned above may take adds cost called the cost of cash transactions in terms of trading, whether between individuals themselves, individuals and banks within the banking system itself.
[millionday] Saleh said that in Sweden, for example, having now one of the best systems of cash payments in the world and despite that, the cost of trading cash counting, transmission and storage of the coin costing the national economy accounted for 4 percent of the gross domestic product of Sweden. Wondering how to compare that in a country like Iraq shall be managed so huge amounts of cash weak structure, adds the cost of cash transactions may reach 8 percent or more of GDP, a burden borne by the individual in his dealings which took reduces the efficiency of cash as an institution social support to various institutions of the economy, including the market as evidenced by the decline in cash transactions because of falling efficiency and installation of the current monetary bloc
[millionday] He noted that the multiplicity of zeros raises the denominations with declining purchasing power has enormous difficulties, including the difficulty of expression for the cash value as well as the difficulties monetary operations itself and technical problems in the recording of statistical data in the accounting books and changing accounting systems and systems adjustments as well as show prices figures long difficult counters or digital devices read Asfarha in gas stations or other digital devices. He continued on this basis has become a need to reform the system of cash payments through several advantages foremost on the horizontal plane and is deleting three zeros any transfer 30 trillion dinars to 30 billion Dolaran by deleting three zeros from the current currency and
[millionday] replace new currency which facilitates handling arithmetic with numbers are less numerous in terms of accounts of the federal budget, the budgets of banks and companies as well as balancing family cash (individuals) without incurring any change or switch on the wealth of cash for natural persons and moral as well as non-depressing contracts and obligations between natural persons and all concerned. Which is called generating mathematical function homogeneous of degree zero as long as the amount of new money younger figure covers merchandise in exchange package itself. 
[millionday] such as the transition from Roman numerals to Arabic numbers (the numbers in English now), that the transition to ايغير of the basic principles of science and math. High amounts of money leads to higher prices for the same without the impact's real economy results. The level vertical any restructuring of the currency and fitted it to the category large amount of 25,000 dinars are alone (two thirds of the amount of securities traded), the issuance of larger groups mean reductase four billion banknotes in circulation now and converted to a number equal to (1.180) billion banknotes 
[millionday] As Stakhtzel large groups of currency nearly 80 percent -90 percent of the total new categories exported to trading (such as 50, 100, 200 new dinars). Said based on the foregoing, the cost of cash transactions between individuals and banks and between individuals themselves or natural morale will fall inevitably in terms of the costs of counting and checking. If Maalmana, that banknotes traded eroded the average over a period of five years, which means replacing enormous mass weak structure and consequent costs typographical specifications high security is another burden borne by the issuing authority cash is a relic management system cash generated economic downturn former became not fit and stability and economic progress desired.
[millionday] He said the money is anything agreed upon the community to become a medium of exchange and a store of value and unit account, the money (legal) issued by the monetary authority under the law and with the power of discharge of the receivables, seen as a social institution, where increasing the efficiency of the economy and its operations to move the exchange efficiently those social institution money, and vice versa. Explaining that the constant inflation led to rising currency in circulation of 23 billion dinars in 1991 to about (30) trillion dinars over time. In this drawing new inflation figures for the currency traded add three zeros which increased the nominal amount of cash operations and
[millionday] consequent costs of producing large amounts of Maraafqatha, storage, and distribution operations, sorting and checking accompany her and doubling levels, the growing operational risks associated. He concluded by saying that the reasons for changing the currency current reflects the fruit of economic stability and the success of policies CBI in maintaining stability and of the stability of the dinar and falling inflation to the rank of one decimal and build foreign reserves support of the Iraqi dinar levels never achieved during the Thirty Years' years, which is the cover of the Iraqi currency. In addition to improving the system of cash payments and make it leave actual adhesion combination for the past economic اختلالاته and rebuilt on the future of economic development and real and nominal givens. 
[millionday] Action needs to review minutes 

[millionday] As an economic expert Dr Akram Abdel Aziz began her several questions came in the forefront of any mechanisms that depend upon the implementation of this approach and implement the replacement process and ensures that there is no manipulation during the switching process in the sense of protecting this step of fraud? She said the economic situation need to follow all his joints which are needed to promote it, as the money spent on switching process must achieve the goal. Continued its questions was to stop at fears that this process may increase the smuggling of money abroad, especially

[millionday] the process of deletion of zeros difficult and complex procedural and need accurate statistics and figures and must stand at their effects on the stock market. They pointed out that this issue if it received extensive study and the quality of community, the process of subtraction will of the Iraqi market to imbalance and jerks just because the citizen can imagine that the deletion of zeros will affect the real value of the currency, stressing that the strategy proposed must correlate between the money market and the labor market, as she wondered whether that perception be comprehensive nature of inflation in terms of it's not the high cost of production and
[millionday] a series elevations price of interest joints much-needed citizen. said that direct this trend needs to be a thorough review of the reality of the Iraqi economy and its institutions of public and private and the extent of and the effectiveness of credit trends supporting the work of the private sector. It showed that the basis of the success of any reform process and administrative needs radical treatment and serious fiscal and monetary imbalances and administrative constitute an obstacle to development cash development in Iraq.
[millionday] Deficit financing the most prominent reasons for the low value of the currency Although the process of deletion of zeros from the currency traces can be negative related operations forgery that will accompany it, but the economic expert, Dr. Hilal Taan said during his speech at the symposium opposite when he refers to the possibility of gains several behind changing the currency, is to provide strong cash flow and global Iraq, which is needed to large groups of cash in value and small in size perform the functions of money, as well as the deletion of zeros will play a positive role in business dealings, according to Taan who said that other positive which will be produced by changing the currency is the accompaniment to the growth stage and growing economic prosperity of Iraq, so the currency change is necessary and in line with this optimism to the future of the national economy.
[millionday] wrought by a series of factors do not stand Pferdha process deficit financing in the forefront of those factors but also contributed to other causes in a collapse of the structural changes that have occurred on the size of the budget after 2003, which led to the increase of cash, and this increase resulted in the high additional costs on the transaction, so in the case of deletion of zeros , these costs will decrease inevitably. Taan hinted that Iraq since the eighties resorted to the use of deficit financing policy, and that policy in developed countries achieved positive effects unlike in developing countries, where the developed countries productive flexible device able to faces demand and
[millionday] therefore increase investment, savings and get the economy moving, either in developing countries When Released new cash gets to meet a large amount of money goods are few and services is low, and a productive is flexible and a rise in prices and the flight of capital, stressing that all these factors negative took place in Iraq, and increased rates of inflation, and these negatives according Taan can not be solved without deleting three zeros from the currency. 
[millionday] Turning Taan to the importance of the availability of a number of things he said was necessary to initiate the process of deletion of zeros, pointing out that there are factors to concrete and other significant impact material, and also said: that to change the currency prerequisites should be available before this, the first of the reserve strategic direct, any balance of gold and foreign currency, and I see that the Iraqi dinar covered with good foreign currency is, according to the Central Bank of 67 billion dollars. 
[millionday] According Taan he Furthermore, the second factor that must be made available to initiate the process of deletion is in the size of the reserve strategic indirect, and intended to natural resources, and this is positive now, especially since Iraq has become the second country after Saudi Arabia in the volume of production and exports of oil to members OPEC, explaining that it the third factor psychological, any behaviors and activities to some wholesalers, who became not like to deal in Iraqi dinars, and preferred the dollar, despite the fact that the currency is a commodity, the greater the demand for that commodity value rises, and vice versa 
[millionday] A number of experts and researchers interventions task enriched table ideas and solutions, including the Executive Director of the Association of private banks in Iraq Abdul Aziz Hassoun, and banking expert Abdul Hussein Mundhiri, and economic researcher Thamer Alheimus and economic analyst Dr Hussein Allawi, and a number of other businessmen including investor Hadi Hndas, and investor Ibrahim Jaber Hussein, and Ibrahim Mohamed Ali investor
[millionday] so the results are at this time that -- the time is now that is best for the rv and i have to say i agree 

Ministry of Finance has different opinion than his own deputy; The deletion of zeros falls within the powers of the CBI, 3 sept


Ministry of Finance has different opinion than his own deputy; The deletion of zeros falls within the powers of the CBI

03/09/2012
Ruled out the Undersecretary of the Ministry of Finance Fadel Bani deletion of zeros from the currency until the end of the year two thousand and thirteen (2013). Bani said in a press statement that the deletion of zeros falls within the powers of the central bank, which is supported by,
While the Ministry of Finance to Ataadh, said Undersecretary of the Ministry of Finance between that next year’s budget was calculated current Iraqi currency and therefore can not delete the zeros and replacement,
http://bit.ly/PDxnlh
Alternate translation:
The Financial Secretary has ruled out Bani Fadel delete zeros from the currency until the end of 2000 and thirteen (2013). Brown said in a press release that the deletion of zeros outside the powers of the Central Bank, which supported that, in
While the Ministry of finance not back him, said Financial Secretary built to balancing next year calculated current Iraqi currency and therefore cannot delete zeros and replaced,
http://bit.ly/OMaDP1

Central lauds "the deletion of zeros", and experts believe the project needs to be reviewed, 3 SEPT

Central lauds "the deletion of zeros", and experts believe the project needs to be reviewed

BAGHDAD / Aswat al-Iraq: praised the Iraqi Central Bank, on Saturday, his project aimed to delete three zeros from the Iraqi currency, noting that would reduce its size and to facilitate commercial transactions, in what was considered experts that the project needs to be reviewed, and the provision of conditions of security and stability, economic and enact laws to prevent fraud and corruption that took place after 2003.

This came during a seminar held by the Economic Section in the morning newspaper under the title of the advantages and disadvantages of the deletion of zeros from the currency.
The Vice-Governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh practical advantages deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency, considering that the Iraqi dinar "has lost much of its value because of inflation, which began with the imposition of the economic embargo on Iraq," and since that time "people sought alternatives to currency informal such goods and gold and precious paintings and others, which have been used to save and preserve value. "


Saleh was considered during his speech that "the money supply in Iraq is very large, with over 35 trillion dinars", which is "افقدها function as a measure of value, but some functions now beginning to return to its strength because it backed cash reserve exceeding $ 68 billion."
Deputy Governor explained during the seminar that there is a reform process horizontal and the other vertical will be to improve the situation of the Iraqi currency, and through "the process of lifting the zeros and structuring currency, to reduce the size of the cash from 35 trillion to 35 billion dinars."


The restructuring process and implementation explained favor it "will not be until after a detailed study, not be implemented except by law", the fact that the deletion process "difficult and complex because it represents the infrastructure for the future of Iraq's economic," he said timing "has not been determined and may be next year or after or during the years, "stressing the importance of the project," the fact that Iraq is on the verge of huge cash flows as a result of increased production of oil. "
For its part, attacked economic researcher Dr. Akram al-Azzawi process of deletion of zeros, arguing that the process needs to "know the real extent of their impact on the Iraqi economy so as not to be merely a calculation only, without any promotion of the value of the Iraqi dinar in return."


Azzawi stressed that the central bank took several things into consideration before starting the process, mainly "fraud currency or recycling of the market because of administrative corruption," he said, "Iraq's dependence on the economy of unilateral relies on oil, without the presence of sectors real strong is ordered is positive and lead to failure to achieve the goals of the process of deletion of zeros. "


Azzawi considered that the Central Bank project "needs to pause to reconsider, 


because it will not have a significant impact in reducing inflation or strengthen the value of the currency."

A view endorsed by economic researcher Hilal Taan during a speech at the symposium, which highlighted the inflation which increased the size of the Iraqi currency from 25 billion in the early nineties of the last century to six trillion in 2003, to reach today to 35 trillion dinars.


The process of changing the currency and delete the zeros need separate according Taan to 


"factors material and moral influence physical and foreign reserves high and natural resources," in addition to "Working psychological individual's Iraqi favoring local currency to any other currency, a factor that is not available in Iraq."

According to the Taan responsible parties "need to pause to think, before embarking on the process of changing the currency and delete the zeros", the fact that the step "great but not easy, despite the need for Iraq."


Executive Director of the Association of private banks Abdul Aziz Hassoun, said the news agency Voices of Iraq () on the sidelines of the seminar that the deletion of zeros from the currency "will occur to reduce the amount of cash, but the economic feasibility of it will be to find a comfortable financial transactions only large," and wondered "Is this convenience will we survive than we are? "


The suffering Iraqi dinar of decline its value against the U.S. dollar since late last year and 

early this year, if the exchange rate of 118 thousand dinars per hundred dollars, to 125 

thousand dinars per hundred dollars, following the sanctions imposed on Iran, and security tension in Syria.

Turn Rafidain Bank representative cautioned Abdul Hussein Mundhiri re-experience the process of switching the Iraqi currency under the previous laws, "adding that the experience of the post-2003 change currency" gave us some great lessons and expensive because of 


financial corruption that accompanied this process. "

Was the result of corruption according Mundhiri "return the money delivered to the recycling banks to the domestic market", or the existence of cases of "fraud in Iraqi banks incurred currency impact large losses."


Mundhiri stressed during the seminar on "The time is not right security and economically to the process of replacing the currency," noting that there preparations must be completed most important, "new laws for the deletion of zeros and change the currency, take into account the experience of the year 2003," What happened where the fraud and corruption to close doors in front of all those who try to perform this operation. " 

OKIEOILMAN, BLAINO, RILEY, CARRELLO, UNIROD & FREEWAYBILL POST, 3 SEPT



9-3-2012 OkieOilMan: THERE ARE CURRENTLY OVER 70 DIFFERENT PROGRAMS WORLD WIDE THAT IS DUE TO BE FUNDED CLOSELY TO THE C/E [CURRENCY EXCHANGE] RELEASE. THE C/E AS I UNDERSTAND IT IS THE CATYLST FOR THE OTHER PROGRAMS TO FUND. LET ME REMIND YOU THAT THE MOST VOLANTILE PLACE IN THE WORLD IS THE MID EAST AND THIS C/E COULD GO SOUTH JUST AS RAPIDLY AS IT REVALUES; DEPENDS ON WHETHER YOU WISH TO GAMBLE ON A SURE THING. IT'S AN ACCEPTABLE RATE AND A SUSTAINABLE REASONABLE RATE. VND IS QUESTIONABLE AS TO WHETHER IT IS IN THE SAME BASKET TO GO INITIALLY.

9-3-2012 Blaino: I see large international dollar movement, extra large IQD buys happening in the Middle East. I am very excited. We are holding at alert level 5+.


9-3-2012 Riley Jones: "Article 140 Committee parliamentary resume work. The Article 140 committe resumed parliamentary work yesterday after selecting MP Mohsen Saadoun as its chairman. The committee formed by the House of Representatives on the implementation of Article 140 of the Constitution and formed of 17 Vice chose today Sadoun president and deputy bright Naji vice president. The task of the Commission is to follow up and monitor the work of the implementation of Article 140 government and follow-up material scattered offices in the provinces, which includes the disputed area. The Kurdistan Alliance believes that direct the Commission to work is a positive step and a step forward for the implementation of article which constitutes a breakthrough between the provincial government and the federal government on the disputed areas." Read more  

9-3-2012 Carrello: For an event that would have no effect other than the recycling of paper goods, I have never seen so much goverment discussion and power grabs, media publicity on the revaluing, international financial conferences (have you checked the attendees and agenda of the upcoming conference 9-18-12 in London? wow!), what it would mean nationally and internationally, talk of educating the public, and all of this from the Iraqi media, not IQD pumpers. And think of all the meetings that have taken place and continue to be scheduled.


9-3-2012 Unirod: "Heats up debate on the process of deletion of zeros from the currency." The small Bankers Association is raising a fuss because they see their will be Huge imbalances in the Dinar and value of the currency! It's the State Banks who get 80% of all the GOI deposits! This will not be a revenue nuetral event, are we all that stupid? the Big Banks will never lose my freinds. It's all about timing with any investment. If the Banks are hoarding the Dinar before the Deletion of the Zeros event as well as any depositors. There will be an imbalance my friends, and it is already being "DENIED" isn't it evident by now that huge profits are going to be realized by some even inside Iraq?  This is not going to be a revenue nuetral event IMO. 

9-3-2012 Freeway Bill: I WILL SAY THIS FOR ALL REAL INTEL GIVERS that have worked so hard to bring all of you the intel. ALL OF US HAVE BEEN LIED TO BY SOURCES MANY TIMES BUT we have heard the real truth just as many times. YES, this was supposed to happen JUNE 30, 2011 and was stopped! YES, it was on the back screens and never made it to the front at least half dozen times that I know of for sure. YES, IRAQ is out of the decision making process of this RV. So many things have had to be taken care of before this RV could happen and us be assured that our money would be safe. Nothing more, nothing less. Well many things have happened and we are going to see this RV FOR SURE ABSOLUTELY! WHEN? Could be this week, could take another month. According to many phone calls I got today, we are in great shape, but that DOES NOT mean we will wake up to it on Monday morning but we might! And that is the truth! The information that is available right now and what is happening right now is very good. 


MED CHAT, 3 SEPT


Med (6:16 PM): I AM REALLY SURPRISED BY THE TWO CONTRADICTORY ARTICLES TODAY THAT THIS PLACE IS NOT JUST HOPPING  HAS IT TURNED THAT BAD ON THIS SITE THAT THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ANYONE SEES ANYMORE WE HAVE TWO ARTICLES ONE SAYS NO RV

Rowboat: i ask for your input on the art med

Med: THE OTHER SAYS THERE IS ONE FIRST OFF I LOOK AT WHERE IT IS POSTED ONE IS AKNEWS WHICH AT BEST IS NOT RELIABLE THE OTHER THE VOICE OF IRAQ  WHICH IS THE MOST RELIABLE RESOURCE IN IRAQI MEDIA
  ALSO HAS ANYONE EVER HEARD OF THIS PROPHET AND THIS 2013 EXCUSE FOR THE BUDGET IS BS IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED MANY TIMES THAT THEY WERE PREPARING THE 2013 BUDGET WITH THE NEW RATE OF EXCHANGE IN IT.... SO TO ME THE ONE ARTICLE IS EITHER ANOTHER VILLAGE IDIOT TALKING THROUGH HIS ***  OR SMOKE

I DONT THINK IT IS SMOKE I THINK THE GUY IS JUST AN IDIOT MANY TIMES WHEN AN ARTICLE IS PUBLISHED THEY HAVE MADE THE MISTAKE OR THE TRANSLATION IS JUST NOT GOOD THAT IMPLIES THIS IS A FOR SURE OPINION OF ALL AND IT IS NOT IT IS THE OPINION OF ONE

AND WE ALL KNOW FROM YEARS OF WATCHING VERY SELDOM IS THERE EVER A CONSENSUS ON ANY OPINION OR STATEMENT DOES ANYONE HONESTLY THINK THAT SHABIBI WENT THROUGH ALL THIS BS JUST TO HAVE SOME IDIOT SAY HA HA WE DIDNT PUT IT IN THE BUDGET

THEY HAVENT EVEN PASSED IT THEY DIDNT EVEN PASS THE SUPPLEMENTAL AND WHO IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET THE CENTRAL BANK SHABIBI ISNT JUST ON VACATION HERE THINKING OH GEE DID I LEAVE THE IRON ON WELL KIDS THAT IS ALL I GOT ON IT

guardian: these articles remind me of one big cluster

Med: JMO I KNOW GUARDIAN I STARTED GATHERING UP THIS MORNING ON THE TWO THAT YOU AND HARRY DID WITH TWO DIFFERENT TRANSLATIONS THEN

guardian: "Reducing the zeros is the Central Bank's authority. As the Finance Ministry we are against the change and removal of the zeros, but the bank insists on removing the zeros." < i managed to pull that out, the bank loves the idea still

Med: I SAW THAT AND IT IS THEIR DECISION

rowboat: some are very difficult to under stand

guardian: i'm going with the guy with the brains

Med: AND IT WAS THE MOF REMEMBER BACK IN 2010 THEY ASKED THAT IT BE DONE IT WAS ISAAWI THE NEW MOF NOW I THINK THOUGH HE WAS KICKED OUT BY MALIKI

guardian: i know and i saw something recent that stated he (illawi) wants it done, so probably media misinformation

Med: YES

guardian: sorry issawi

Med: AND WE HAVE SEEN MANY TIMES GUARDIAN ERRORS IN THE IKNEWS AND THE AKNEWS

guardian: you okay'd aknews again, but i wonder...

Med: I KNOW I MEAN

guardian: they can come up with some doozeis

Med: YES THEY CAN IT REALLY ISNT DOING ANY DAMAGE

guardian: trying to create mass confusion so we won't think the rv will happen, but suddenly it does hahaha

Med: SEE I AM KIND OF HEDGING THAT WAY BUT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THAT FOR 2 FRIGGN YEARS THE PROBLEM IS AND NOT FOR US BUT WE KNOW THE PLAYERS SO WELL

guardian: and we know media misinformation runs rampant

Med: IT SURELY DOES AND YOU KNOW BETTER THAN ANYONE WELL GANG I AM LOOKING AT BEING BACK ON AROUND 10PM CST TAKE CARE GANG