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Sunday, August 19, 2012

Talabani appealed to calm the atmosphere between the parties meet the invitation to the selection of a new president?, 19 AUGUST


Talabani appealed to calm the atmosphere between the parties meet the invitation to the selection of a new president?19/08/2012 12:43 PM

BAGHDAD - "squares of liberation" : varied reactions of the political blocs on the invitation of President Jalal Talabani, renewable for a national meeting after repeated invitation to him on Sunday in a speech addressed to the Iraqi people on the occasion of Eid al-Fitr ..

found some lawmakers need to meet the invitation of Iraqi President with student others to nominate someone else to lead the country because of the president's illness and frequent absence from Baghdad, according to what they say.

MP for the coalition of "state law" just Hurcab said that "to be the trend towards reforms, especially after the end of the crisis, to dismiss the government," adding that "the paper's political reforms proposed accommodate all other papers and are not final and are imposed on one because all partners in the homeland, "stressing that" the return of President Talabani from outside the country where he left for treatment will contribute to solving problems and thus the stability of the country, where Talabani was acting according to break the constitutional predisposing him and he proved Siadeth and preserving the Constitution as President of the Republic in more positions. "
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MP for a coalition of Kurdish blocs Hassan Jihad, said that the delegation negotiating the Kurdistan will begin after the holiday of Eid al-Fitr, the negotiations with Baghdad, adding that the Kurdistan Alliance flatly refused to postpone the implementation of Article (140).

Jihad said that "The delegation will carry with him all the differences between the territory of Kurdistan and the federal government, especially the Convention on the Arbil, expressing his hope that the delegation to reach positive results." He pointed out that mass unequivocally reject the postponement of Article (140) because it is a constitutional article.

so called former deputy member of the National Alliance, Judge Wael Abdul Latif to "choose a new president of Iraq rather than President Jalal Talabani because of his health and his absence continued to practice the work."

He said in a press statement today that "medicine and the absence of Talabani continued his post proved to be a sick man can not continue his work, and the selection of a replacement for is the health status of the subject, without the imposition of a replacement of the same color or caste."

Wael Abdul-Latif

He said Abdul Latif that "Iraq is now walking without a president of the republic and from a constitutional standpoint, the vice president has no mandate and sufficient powers, because playing the role of the president," adding that "from 2003, the Iraqi politicians spend most of their time they are being treated abroad and on the state treasury, If we go back to the history of Iraq, we find this thing does not exist ".

It is noted that President Jalal Talabani addresses since about 3 months in a hospital in Germany after being held in June surgery on his knee.

http://www.altahreernews.com/inp/view.asp?ID=10564

MICHINGANDER POST, 19 AUGUST

[michigander0131] Central Bank: draft delete zeros will pass after the political crisis 2012-08-19 He appearance of Bank Deputy Governor Mohammad Saleh told 

correspondent/JD/draft delete zeros will pass within the Chamber of Deputies and Ministers 

shortly after the end of the "whirlwind", noting that all agreed on the importance of clusters 

and its usefulness for the Iraqi economy. Saleh said "national projects as delete zeros interest many officials and advisers will not be deprecated, noting that the next phase will be adopted 

permanently. Saleh said that "what prevents adoption project is having fears among some 

politicians from the timing of the project think that the project affects the General State of 

the economy negatively, this is incorrect, however, the Bank believes that it is necessary to 

respect the political wills and waiting a period of relative calm in which the project was more 

appropriate. http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dananernews.com%2FNews_Details.php%3FID%3D1588 


[michigander0131] so they are stating give us stability and we will give you RV


[michigander0131] so hoping they can get it done when tallibani comes back/and then 

hoping to see it before the meeting in september 18-19/ the next few weeks should be interesting

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 19 AUGUST

8-19-2012  Intel Guru TerryK   i have been saying for months, right after ramadan AUG 23-30, and with the coins 1, 5, 10 dinar coins coming out...That means it is done...logic says if they are coming out with 1, 5,and 10 dinar coins, they have to RV for any of these to have value.

8-19-2012  Newshound Guru Mailman17    LOOK BACK ON JUST WHATS TRANSPIRED THE LAST 2 WEEKS - ERBIL, 140, HCL, MINISTERS.  ALL MOST LIKELY TO BE DONE AFTER THE 23RD OF AUG.   NOW...ADD THE UNS GROUP HEADED BY THE US, THE NEWS HAS BEEN NOTHING BUT OUTSTANDING...FOLLOW IT AND YOU WONT GO WRONG...LETS SEE IF THIS TRAIN FINALLY HAS COME TO THE STATION WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING AT.

8-19-2012 Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Draft law to delete zeros will pass shortly after the end of the "whirlwind." The CBI came out with some interesting articles pertaining to the Dinar today. "CBI - draft to delete the zeros will pass after the political crisis."  and "Central Bank is talking about to delete the zeros and the replacement of currency beginning 2013 'a fantasy' ".

8-19-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Article:  "Central Bank: We seek to adopt an electronic system in financial transactions.  Central Bank announced that it seeks to limit the use of banknotes in the country because of security conditions that make the transfer of money difficult and risky."  Here’s an interesting piece when coupled with the other implications and the various technical aspects of a possible currency adjustment in Iraq. This will help out with some of the “mass hysteria” that is sure to accompany this event. They also don’t want common people getting robbed of “hard currency” immediately after coming into some money (post-RV). 

8-19-2012  Newshound Guru Doc We sit here with Ramadan just about over...we did not expect the RV during this time.  We did expect was many under the table deals to be put into place and several are starting to emerge.  Among those appear to be great movement toward structuring an agreement around the Ebril issues.  We have also witnessed Maliki trying to stall Shabibi once again but this time Shabibi said "NO MORE!"  Also the GOI appears on board now .  If the reported issuing of the lower denoms is accurate we should see the RV in the same time period.  It would make no sense to issue a 5 dinar note at the current exchange rate which would make that note worth about 1/2 of one cent USD. [Post 1 of 2 Stay tuned for the rest of the story dinarguru.com ]

8-19-2012  Newshound Guru Mailman17   THERE IS NO WAY IN **** IRAQ WITH A 67 BIL RESERVE, WITH 780 BILL FROZEN AND NOW POSSIBLY 5 TRIL WORLDWIDE, ADDED TO THE FACT THAT THE PARIS CLUB WOULD FORGIVE A MEASLY AMOUNT COMPARED TO THAT, THAT A LOP IS EVEN A POSSIBILITY,  IRAQS ASSETS...PERSPECTIVELY  USING FRACTIONAL BANKING CAN EASILY...AND I REPEAT...EASILY NOW HANDLE A 1-1  AND THATS WHERE I THINK WE ARE HEADED VERY SOON.    TALABANI COMES BACK TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT SUPPOSEDLY ON THE 26TH.  IMO...HE IS ANNOUNCING THE RV,  EFFECTIVE...FINGERS CROSSED...SEP 1.

8-19-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Talabani did actually address the nation of Iraq.  He was talking of applying all these principles, Erbil, the Constitution, etc. into this National Conference.  The next few days should be critical to see where we stand in this investment.  I would look for some significant political developments in the next few days into the end of next week.  It is not out of Iraq's hands, when they get these things solved, we will be nearer to an immediate currency shift.  We are on the backside of this.  All the news is looking up. 

TRINITY, KAPERONI, SANDSTORM, MOUNTAINMAN & DOC POST, 19 AUGUST

8-19-2012 TrinityeXchange: We are forced to draw conclusions on news that really isn't news to begin with. But what it looks like to me after I consider 1. The attack of the executive branch against the CBI accusing them of mafia ties and laundering money 2. The CBI refuting those claims and implicating Maliki 3. The United States implicating Maliki 4. United States presence back in Iraq, it has been determined that Maliki's power will be quelled. At this point it doesn't matter what is or isn't true. Things seem to have already been determined by the US that Maliki's regime must come to an end. Maliki tried to plead his case by blaming the CBI but it failed. The US has built its case and I imagine soon we will see United States' plan executed. Uncle Sam had it already planned back in approx 2003 that the middle east would succumb. On that list was approximately 7 nation states (Iraq, Syria, Libya, Iran, Afghanistan, etc). Maliki will not stand in the way of the US executing its goal.

 8-19-2012 Kaperoni: Draft law to delete zeros will pass shortly after the end of the "whirlwind." The CBI came out with some interesting articles pertaining to the Dinar today. "CBI - draft to delete the zeros will pass after the political crisis."

8-19-2012 Sandstorm: Unfortunately, just having the resources doesnt equate to a higher valued currency. Iraq needs to mine and pull these minerals out of the ground and export or import, selling these goods to increase GDP. Food for thought, a country would never value there currency on untapped resources, because everytime they drilled they would have less and their currency's value would be on a continued decline. It would be impossible to accurately set a currency's value on reserves. Overvaluations and new finds would create too much instability, being that the main function of any central bank is price stability.  But finding these minerals and increasing GDP would be very beneficial.

8-19-2012 Mountainman: Did everyone see that statement from the CBI today?  Wow, that was great!!  The CBI said all they are waiting on is the GOI to resolve this crisis and implement the reform paper.  The CBI didn't mention a RV specifically because as Shabibi has said they can't tell us, but they did say the next phase of the national economic project will start after the crisis is resolved.  That is wonderful news and I really think we are so close now!!

8-19-2012  Newshound Guru Doc We sit here with Ramadan just about over...we did not expect the RV during this time.  We we did expect was many under the table deals to be put into place and several are starting to emerge.  Among those appear to be great movement toward structuring an agreement around the Ebril issues.  We have also witnessed Maliki trying to stall Shabibi once again but this time Shabibi said"NO MORE!"  Also the GOI appears on board now .  If the reported issuing of the lower denoms is accurate we should see the RV in the same time period.  It would make no sense to issue a 5 dinar note at the current exchange rate which would make that note worth about 1/2 of one cent USD.

8-19-2012 Dalite: Unfortunately, OPEC countries can only accept USD for oil payments, so the UST has no need for Dinar. If Iraq had any other export that the US needed, it would build the necessary reserves, if payment was demanded in Dinar. Since Iraq is a dual currency country, that isn't a likely scenario. There has never been any factual information ever brought forward to support that claim.  Although we all wish it was true, it is considered to be a Forum Fact, only believed in Dinar forums. 
OPEC regulations and IMF requirements prevent that from currently being a reality. Perhaps that will change in the future, if the USD is replaced by the Dinar as the worlds reserve currency of choice. Under present regulations, the CBI has to fully back the Dinar with Foreign Reserves.  That is the cause for concern how much Foreign Reserves the CBI has (which are not all in USD).


8-19-2012 Gypsy Vardo: New York Times quote: "The accusations of high-level Iraqi government involvement in sanctions-busting have roiled Iraqi politics and invariably reflect on Mr. Maliki, since many Iraqi officials now say that he has taken effective control of the Iraqi central bank, which is nominally independent." I think we have to consider that Maliki might be the one holding this up more directly than we have thought possible.


8-19-2012 LoriC: Today Saleh of the CBI confirmed exactly what the newshounds have been trying to explain for a long time.  He said the project to delete the zeros is waiting on the "political storm" to end and that the national project to reform the currency will commence when these reforms are passed. 
 8-19-2012 LoriC:This should end the debate on what the holdup is.  A seated GOI, Erbil power sharing, Investment laws, HCL etc. has always been the holdup and you don't have to take my word for it.  The CBI has confirmed this and it's great news for all of us who are waiting on the economic project because they are on the brink of passing the reforms.
8-19-2012 Luigi1: Under British control in the early 1900s UK geologists located vast amounts of untapped silver, platinum, palladium, lithium, potash & other rare minerals deposits in addition to gold & copper. Iraq also has vast amounts of un - surveyed untapped natural gas fields ripe for exploration not even counting the known oil deposits. The main choking point or bottle neck are the development of the fields & mines as well as building the infrastructure to get these resources to the global market place. Iraq will have to build many times more off shore floating oil & gas terminals & dredge additional deep water ports to handle the mineral barges, freighter & container ships. Iraq is indeed a very very wealthy nation with great future potentials just waiting for global developers to come in & facilitate the GOI.



Economic commission will host CBI’s Shabibi to discuss corruption and laundering accusations, 19 august


Economic commission will host CBI’s Shabibi to discuss corruption and laundering accusations

Economic Commission reveal throughout the host central bank governor
Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network revealed Deputy of the Economic Commission parliamentary around the host’s central bank governor until the end of the work of the regulatory problem of the sale of the currency.
said committee member Ibrahim al-Rikabi’s (Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network) The Committee postponed a host central bank governor to enable them to be found directly on the events the bank from selling the currency. , adding that “the Commission will adopt so also on the results of work of the Parliamentary Committee problem to control the sale of the dollar at the Central Bank.”
and the form of the House of Representatives parliamentary committee made ​​up of the economic and investment commission to proceed with its work after the holiday to monitor the operations of selling the dollar at the Central Bank.
was scheduled to host the Central Bank Governor Sinan Shabibi on accusations by the Congress of the Central Bank of corruption and money laundering in an auction sale of the currency.
http://bit.ly/SbgJOr

CBI’s Saleh: Draft bill over deleting zero’s stuck in the house awaiting approval; Will pass after political whirlwind ends, 19 august


CBI’s Saleh: Draft bill over deleting zero’s stuck in the house awaiting approval; Will pass after political whirlwind ends

Central Bank: draft delete zeros will pass after the political crisis
2012-08-19
The Central Bank announced that the draft will delete zeros inside the House and the Prime Minister after what he called a “whirlwind.”
He appearance of Bank Deputy Governor Mohammad Saleh told correspondent/JD/draft delete zeros will pass within the Chamber of Deputies and Ministers shortly after the end of the “whirlwind”, noting that all agreed on the importance of clusters and its usefulness for the Iraqi economy.
Saleh said “national projects as delete zeros interest many officials and advisers will not be deprecated, noting that the next phase will be adopted permanently.
Saleh said that “what prevents adoption project is having fears among some politicians from the timing of the project think that the project affects the General State of the economy negatively, this is incorrect, however, the Bank believes that it is necessary to respect the political wills and waiting a period of relative calm in which the project was more appropriate.
The Central Bank estimated the cost of speculative delete zeros from the currency up to 172 billion dinars.
According to a study prepared by the special project delete zeros received/JD/copy: total cost of the project to delete zeros speculative around a hundred and seventy-two billion dinars “.
The Bank said that freight and insurance of course role to Baghdad international airport by border (140), calculated on the basis of the ratio between the highest and lowest price (90-189) billion dinars of the offers made by companies. “Speculative cost to mint coins of the new currency of mineral (16) billion dinars”.
The Bank said that “the wages of cargo, Fridays and holidays, overtime …Etc (15) billion dinars “.
He said the cost of the campaign and miscellaneous costs around 1 billion dinars. He recalled the Bank cost replacement operation for the period from 15/10/2003 until 15/4/2004, where wages and move towards currency printed (240) dinars minted coins, remuneration within the mineral (16) billion dinars, a ring total costs for banks (13) billion dinars.
http://bit.ly/P7pDHW

CBI Vice Governor: Deleting the zeros is still a proposal that needs finalized; Says new currency in 2013 is a “fantasy”, 19 august


CBI Vice Governor: Deleting the zeros is still a proposal that needs finalized; Says new currency in 2013 is a “fantasy”

The Central Bank is talking about the deletion of zeros and currency exchange beginning of 2013, “a fantasy”
CBI, Sunday, talking about the deletion of zeros and the replacement of the Iraqi currency early next year 2013, “a fantasy”, as he emphasized the need to be replaced in the currency of a new financial.
The deputy governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh in a press statement, “” The draft restructuring currency and delete the zeros are still just proposals nor approved so far and remains a dead letter, “noting that” the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives are still trading with the bank on it and the time at which it is replacing the currency. “
Saleh added that “any thought about replacing the new currency after deletion of zeros starts with the beginning of 2014 and up, if approved by the Council of Ministers on the project since the Council’s decision to wait still continues until now,” adding that ” talking about the deletion of zeros and the replacement of the Iraqi currency beginning of the year next 2013 pure fantasy. “
He pointed out that in favor of “currency replacement must be with a new financial”, adding that “private accounts, the Iraqi government can not be recorded in the same year two forms of financial values.”
He was a member of the Finance Committee Haitham al-Jubouri announced (15 May 2012), “that the month of January of next year, 2013 will see the deletion of three zeros and the replacement of the currency, as will next September 2012, the direct printing of the new currency various categories.
And the Finance Committee hosted in the (June two thousand and twelve twenty-six), the deputy governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh to discuss the mechanism that will be followed by the bank in the process of deletion of zeros and how long this process and the variables that will occur on the currency exchange.
was a member And the Finance Committee of parliamentary Nagia Najib announced in an interview for “Alsumaria News”, in (July two thousand and twelve three) that the next budget year two thousand and thirteen will be the new currency after deleting three zeros from the current currency, arguing that the reluctance of traders and companies from trading in the Iraqi currency behind the adoption of the Central bank project delete zeros.
accused the central He bank (12 September two thousand and eleven) governmental bodies obstructing monetary reform Vowed and persecuting, Blaming the authorities responsible for exposing the financial interests of the country to danger.
was seen as What an adviser to Prime Minister for Economic Affairs in the (twenty-five August 2 011), that the lifting of the Zeroes from the currency is the biggest corruption in Iraq if it was during this period, and fall under the name of Tampering with the economic, warning of “Mafias currency” is preparing to rig the Trillions of Iraqi dinars to replace them in light of changes anticipated.
It is noteworthy that some economists believe that Iraq is not formatted for the time being to delete the zeros from its currency, noting that the deletion needs to stabilize the security and political as well as economic stability.
http://bit.ly/Px2sXU

MED & MAILMAN CHAT, 19 AUGUST

mailman17 (7:27 PM): EVENING  HEY ALL...WANNA THROW SOMETHING AT YA THAT MIGHT EXPLAIN THIS A BIT MORE...

    mpw: throw away

    mailman17:    YES...THE NEW KURDISH NOTES WILL BE OUT IN JAN    NOW...WE KNEW SHABS WAS UP TO SOMETHING DUE SEPT    LETS TAKE A LOOK AT A POSSIBILITY AT WHAT HE DID

    FIRST OFF...YES...HE NEED NOT SO MUCH APPROVAL BUT COOPERATION WITH GETTING THE NEW NOTES OUT IN JAN    BUT    NOW FOLLOW ME ON THIS..IT WILL GET TRICKY

    I KNEW HE WOULD OR AT LEAST SHOULD COME OUT WITH SOMETHING IN SEPT    SAID THAT FOR THE LONGEST TIME    I ASSUMED IT WOULD BE THE SMALLS PRINTED IN 2003

     NOW..THE NEW NOTES COMING OUT MAY BE THAT    BUT THE COINS?....WHERE WAS THE FUNDING FOR THOSE    ANYONE?    I HAVE HAD NUMEROUS CHATS IN THE PAST ON THIS TOPIC

    REMEMBER THOSE PESKY LITTLE 25, 50 AND 100 DINAR COINS THAT CAME OUT IN 2003 AND NO ONE USED THEM SO THEY WERE TAKEN OUT OF CIRCULATION BUT NOT OFF THE BOOKS/ M2

    SHABBIB HAS HAD ALL ALONG    THE RESOURCES AND M2 BACKING TO PRINT WHAT HE NEEDED WITHOUT PERMISSION    AND THATS EXACTLY WHAT HE HAS DONE

    Med: HEY

    mailman17: HE HAS USED THE SMALLS FROM 2003 AND COMBINED THE VALUE ALLOTTED TOWARDS THE OLD COINS TO REPLACE THE NEW ONES

    Med: HE CANT USE THEM

    mailman17: AND WHY

    Med:    BECAUSE HE AUCTIONED THEM OFF   ALL OF THEM    FOR MILLIONS

    mailman17: ANYTHING PRINTED IS UNDER HIS CONTROL

    Med: YES BUT

    mailman17: NO..HANG ON MED

    Med: YES HE DID

    mailman17: HES NOT USING THE COINS..JUST THE VALUE

    Med:    THE ARTICLE IS IN THE FORUMS    ONCE HE SOLD THE COINS

    mailman17: THE VALUE OF THOSE COINS IS WHAT HE IS USING

    Med: AT A LOSS

    mailman17: RIGHT

    Med: HE CANT USE THE PAST VALUE

    mailman17: THEY WERE UNCIRCULATED

    Med:   HE CAN ONLY USE THE VALUE OF WHAT HE SOLD THEM FOR    RIGHT

    mailman17: SURE HE CAN...CAUSE THAT ALLOTMENT WAS NEVER TAKEN OF THE M2

    Med: THAT WOULD BE FUDGING THE BOOKS

    mailman17:  THE VALUE WAS A BLANK...WAITING FOR SOMETHING TO FILL IT  YES IT WOULD

    Med: I DO NOT THINK THIS IS AN ISSUE

    mailman17: WITH THE IMFS BACKING OF COURSE

    Med:    THEY ARE CALLING IN ALL ASSETS    ABROAD    RIGHT NOW

    mailman17:    YES THEY ARE    DID YOU SEE THE GRAND TOTAL ON THAT ONE?

    Med: ALONG WITH THE 67 BILLION IN FOREIGN CURRENCY ASSETS

    mailman17: KEEP GOING

    Med: THAT BELONG TO CBI

    mailman17: 5 TRIL

    Med:    NOW ONE THING    AND THIS IS THINKING AS A WESTERNER ON THIS ONE    CUZ I AM GONNA NEED SHOCK THERAPY    IF I CONTINUE TO THINK LIKE AN IRAQI    WHY    OR HOW    IN GODS NAME    COULD THEY HAVE THAT KIND OF ASSETS    WHEN THEY CANT EVEN PAY 16 BILLION    TO THE KUWAITI'S    SO THEY CAN EXIT CHAPTER VII

    mailman17: EXACTLY...HOW THE **** DID THAT STAY HIDDEN FOR SO LONG...AND THENA GAIN IT SURE EXPLAINS WHY MALIKI WAS SUCH AN ASSHOLE

    Med:    AND THE SHIPS    REMEMBER

    mailman17: WELL...THINK OF IT THIS WAY MED

    Med:    THAT IRAQ HAS A PRICE TAG ON    TURNED OUT TO BE JUNK

    mailman17: IF THE DINAR WAS PLANNED TO BE A RESERVE CURRENCY

    Med: FOR WHO MM17

    mailman17:    THEY WOULD HAVE TO BACK IT UP SOMEHOW    US..UK...EVCT

    Med:    THAT WOULD BE A DISASTER    OR A POSSIBLE DISASTER

    mailman17: HANG ON...GIMME A CALL...LETS GET ON THE SAME PAGE...CALL ME AT HOME

    Med:    WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE    JUST DISCUSSING IT OUT    THAT IS ALL

    mailman17: WE KNEW FROM DAY 1...COUNTRIES WOULD USE THE DINAR AS RESERVE

    Med:    OF COURSE TO A MINIMUM    UNTIL

    mailman17: HENCE THE US HAVING POSSIBLY AT LEAST 5T

    Med: IRAQ ITSELF SHOWED IT WAS A RESPONSIBLE COUNTRY

    mailman17: NOT COUNTING OURS

    Med:    THAT COULD HOLD IT EXCHANGE RATE    REMEMBER THIS COUNTRIES HISTORY    IT DOES NOT HOLD ON TO LEADERS VERY LONG

    mailman17:    I THINK AT THE END OF THIS GAME...WE ARE GONNA SEE ALL THE DIRTY HIDDEN CRAP THEY DIDNT WANT US TO SEE BEFORE OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER    NO IT DOESNT    I AGREE

    Med:    FOR US    HEY    IT IS NOT A PROBLEM    DUMP IT    AND WERE DONE

    mailman17: BINGO

    Med:    BUT IF ANY COUNTRY    PUTS TOO MUCH FAITH IN IT    AND THEY TUMBLE    SO WILL THAT COUNTRY    WHO PUT ITS FAITH IN THE DINAR    AM I RIGHT

    mailman17: CORRECT...ITS MOST LIKELY ONLY A STABILIZING FACTOR FOR NOW

    Med: YES

    mailman17: JUMPSTART

    Med:    AND ONE THING    I CANNOT REMEMBER ANY EXOTIC CURRENCY    BEING A MAJOR ASSET    FOR ANY COUNTRY    NOT EVEN KUWAIT

    mailman17: BUT WE ALSO KNEW THE PLANS FOR THE DINAR WERE NOT ORDINARY

    Med: SEE THAT IS THE ONE THING

    mailman17: AND NOT EVEN IN THE SAME CATEGORY

    Med:    WE NEVER REALLY SAW ANYTHING IN BLACK AND WHITE    ONLY RUMORS

    mailman17: NOPE

    Med: DID BUSH

    mailman17: WELL NOT REALLY

    Med: REALLY DO THIS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

    mailman17: OVER THE YEARS PAL..WE HAVE READ A TON OF CRAP...INCLUDING THEIR FINANCIALS

    Med:    OR DOES THE GOP JUST HOPE PEOPLE THINK HE DID    FOR ME    I WANT IT TO BE TRUE

    mailman17: ILLUSION IS A MAGICIANS BEST WEAPON

    Med:    CUZ THEN THEY HAVE PAID ATTENTION TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR OWN COUNTRY    WITH THE DINAR

    mailman17: AND THE DINAR IS ONE FRIGGIN HELLOVA MAGIC TRICK

    Med:   OH I AGREE 100%    YOU SEE GANG    HOW WE CAN CLICK INTO THIS    AND CARRY IT ON    LIKE WE STUDIED FOR IT

    mailman17: PUSH THE BUTTON THAT SAYS CLICK..

    guardian: lol all i wanna do is cash in...you guys and your big words

    mailman17:    REMEMBER MED...THE MAJORITY OF THE WORLD IS CLUELESS REGARDING THE DINAR...AND ONE THIS TAKES OFF INTO TRADING AND SUCH...OUR CASH IN WILL BE A THING OF THE PAST    FORGOTTEN    ONCE INFRASTRUCTURE TAKES OFF..CASH IN WILL BE A FOREGONE CONCLUSION

TERRYK CHAT, 19 AUGUST

 TERRY K  9:24 AM  8/19/2012
[TERRYK] i love it
[TERRYK] WHEN OTHERS JUMP ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR MONTHS
[TERRYK] RIGHT AFTER RAMADAN
[TERRYK] 23-30
[TERRYK] AND WITH THE COINS 1, 5, 10 DINAR COINS COMING OUT
[TERRYK] THAT MEANS IT IS DONE
[TERRYK] BRAIN WORKING BACKWARDS
[TERRYK] FUNNY NO ONE LAUGHED
[TERRYK] MORNING GF1
[TERRYK] HEY BE RIGHT BACK

BWM CHAT, 19 AUGUST


[BWM] the last couple of days have been absolutely out of hand... it's come to the point between the gurus and sites that it's almost cannibalistic...

[snobwarrior] eeeewwww

[BWM] let me give you the run down of how this is gonna go down in dinar world...

 [BWM] you have the ppl who swear it's in iraq's hand and we're waiting for the goi, etc.

[BWM] and you have the ppl reading the articles waiting to see the announcement of some meeting...

 [BWM] and the intel provider's saying the banks are ready and codes are coming down the pipe

[BWM] so..

[BWM] here's the real deal so you'll be prepared, won't care, and can move on...
,,
Read More Link on Right
[BWM] everyone will basically look right at the same moment in time... you understand the entire "drama" that has become a soap opera in iraq will magically end as all this comes into play...

[BWM] so... rather than be concerned over what morons will be sitting around in a chat room arguing over who was first, right or otherwise... focus on what you need to do when this goes down...

 [BWM] when this happens, who really cares who was first... who picked the "right" date... or who's "intel" was coming together...

[BWM] the backbiting, the threats and stuff... let me say this.. I won't threaten you...

[BWM] but I will finish what I started... and THAT is to make sure the ppl here get the best information that we can deliver with the most amount of time put in to secure the accuracy of that information

 [BWM] so please... if you want to get caught up in the suddenly new "gurus" and the still "need" to call it every 24 hours go where you need to go...

[BWM] there are those that feel "threatened" to come into this room... I'm sorry about that for those that have real information to share...

 [BWM] for the rest of those that just want to be heard... well, there are other sites that have been gloriously fashioned for that output and enjoy the whole ideal of "broadcasting" themselves...

[BWM] I enjoy just coming into the room to share information and enjoy ppl's company and general discussions... there are those lately who's sole purpose is to stir up trouble and cause dissention...

[mamari4] BWM what did you think of that screen change with CBI?

[BWM] mamari4 had it come from anyone but CCF I would have probably been crying photoshop... but I know him and I know he wouldn't do something like that... the interesting part is the date did not change NOR any other currencies

[redsnowbird] BWM Were you surprised about the currency picture? We figured out it was a test because the Euro did not change and the buy/sell number was reversed. But I did get excited... because it was actually showing, finally, that the CBI was testing! What do you think?

[BWM] redsnowbird I'm thinking that Earl has been sitting there for so long waiting to push the button he may have gotten a little ancy

BGG POST, 19 AUGUST

8-18-2012 BGG: Saturday morning early Iraq time he [President Talabani] had a big public announcement. He is very satisfied over the last few days over the beginning of the regression of the state of crisis. Basically he is talking in depth kind of laying the groundwork for this National Meeting coming fairly soon. 

Talabani is folding the whole convention of Erbil and the constitution and this last meeting in Erbil, he is folding that all together and he is saying we are going to apply all these principles to this National Convention.

The next few days should be very critical to us determining where we are at in this investment.

MIG CHAT, 19 AUGUST


[tdooly] Looks like we are posting some "predictions" this AM! Well, here is mine: Prior to the IQD being DEvalued from approx $3.22 to toilet paper values, the IQD was roughly on par with the value of the Kuwait Dinar. Shabby and in general everybody has said that the IQD would be "strong", "strongEST", etc, post RV. THEREFORE, IMHO, nothing short of the value of the Kuwait Dinar is feasable, THUS IMHO the RV will be in the HIGH $4 range. I have other information that confirms a $4.75 value. NO additonal info re that value or source.

[Sparkles] tdooly I will take it and ruuuunnnnn!

[Sparkles] tdooly When is the question

[tdooly] Sparkles When is easy!!!! On or before September 1 which, I believe is the new fiscal year for the USD such that on that date we may see a change over from the FRN to a USTN US Treasury Note -- however, that may come later after many have exchanged their IQD for FRNs such that when the conversion to USTN happens at a 2:1 exchange the UST will take 50% of our cash in --- known as "slick taxation"!!!
hub] tdooly reading your last couple of post, can you explain the statement about the 2-1 conversion with a "slick taxation" , never heard of this before this min,

[tdooly] hub The FRN (Federal reserve note) is history in that the "world" no longer loves it. The powers that be will simply rename ( a very clever trick of nameiing stuff like "Social Security!!) it as US Treasury Note with a supposedly asset backed value, albeit that "asset backed value" will be just something they dictate versus GOLD IN FORT KNOX. We will "exchange" our FRN for USTN. They wiil try to brain wash us to believe that the USTN is really of better value such that we will all happily go to the bank and exchange 2 of our FRN for 1 of those wonderful USTN. Obviously, this is MY speculation of approximately where we are going. Finally, I will NOT exchange ALL my IQD for FRN OR USTN, but keep as IQD.

hub] tdooly what about just going ahead and trading for canadian or swiss and circumvention the American currency all together

hopeful2&2] tdooly what about folks that has no iqd just what they have in the bank, so a person has 500 dollars in the bank, which would then become 250 dollars, i'm not sure its gonna work that, our dollar we have now should be worth more if anything

tdooly] hopeful2&2 I disagree with "worth more", HOWEVER it will be "sold to us" by our government as being an "equal" or "good" exchange because of the supposed stability of this new USTN. Many were convinced that in the past 4 years we would see "Change you can believe in" -- little did they know that the "CHANGE" was not necessarily for the BETTER!!!!!!!

[jimmydnar] tdooly I agree with holding IQD's

[tdooly] jimmydnar The big question: What will gold and other such prices do post RV? IF they go down, an exchange for such may be wise. IF UP, then... don't know!!

[da58] tdooly I am glad you brought up this conversation, knowing the new notes will come out eventually, I have been speculation on many issues that could rise in the 'switching' from the FRN to the USTN..and how this will affect the money of ours that is still in the US..

[Cyndee49] Heard wells Fargo will let you hold foreign currency act

[hub] tdooly it seems to me, if what you are saying comes to fruition, and the govt does convince us to change out money, this will cause a real stablility problem in the US, has not been long enough since Germany, cuba, and many other smaller countries were eased into dictatorship, we all know or have studied this first hand , i dont believe with todays attitudes toward this administration, that we as a nation of xxx xxxxx red necks will allow this to happen

[maranatha] imo---it all comes down to our military---would they support a dictator

hub] maranatha i know they would not, son just got out and he says no one would support this administration

[tdooly] hub I hope we have enough people to "become" red necks" to take our country back -- I will be on the front line!!!

[hub] tdooly you havent been to texas lately, have you.................eeeehhhhaaaawwww...........lock and loaded'

maranatha] 8-19-2012 Mailman17: i agree with our posters on that article that the 1000:1 means that for what you could have bought for 1000 dinars will now take 1 dinar. That’s an rv. There is no way in **** iraq with a 67 bil reserve, with 780 bill frozen and now possibly 5 tril worlwide added to the fact that the paris club would forgive a measly amount compared to that that a lop is even a possibility.

Iraqs assets perspectively using fractional banking can easily and i repeat easily now handle a 1-1 and that’s where i think we are head very soon. Talabani comes back to make an announcemnent supposedly on the 26th imo he is announcing the rv effective fingers crossed sep 1. Look back on just whats transpired the last 2 weeks: erbil, 140 hcl, ministers. All most likely to be done after the 23rd of aug. Now, add the un’s group headed by the us the news has been nothing but outstanding.

[farmtrader] hub , what effect will the banking system in Iraq do to the rv by them helping the country of Iran.

[hub] farmtrader i am wondering if the report that they will help iran do anything is correct , because the US was involved with the sanctions for iran, and would they allow iraq to do so, i personally dont think they can help iran, but my opinion.

[farmtrader] hub , sounds rather ominous no matter what. I was wondering if the banks in Iraq might be shut down because of it?

[hub] farmtrader i am wondering if the report that they will help iran do anything is correct , because the US was involved with the sanctions for iran, and would they allow iraq to do so, i personally dont think they can help iran, but my opinion