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Wednesday, August 15, 2012

L.J, TONY & GARY POSTS, 15 AUGUST

8-15-2012 L. J.: We had articles that said Maliki is scheduled to go outside of the country to get investors to come in. If he is going out of the country to actually get the investors to come in, there has to be something he knows that he is willing to do that. These companies aren’t just saying we know Iraq is going to have a lot of money. Mercedes Benz is going to spend 22 Mil in Basra to put a plant there to build Mercedes Benz cars and I am sure they are going to be taking 500 Series over there and they sell for $120 grand so if they are building a plant that is going to build them, sell them and maintain them if they are not planning on having any buyers, why spend the 22M. They couldn’t do it without making some significant changes.

8-15-2012 Tony: I got calls this morning from banking people and from people in the Iraqi government. They are saying good things happened today, good things in happened in Parliament; they signed off on some things today to do with the dinar and the banking system and the people over there know it and are excited. All this took place in the last 3 or 4 hours. It was a significant move. It [today] is not the day that I heard for it to happen and they do have a target date and today is not it. On top of everything I just told you, Iraq said they want to pay their ministers the 15th through the 18th. They want this thing to happen right after that 3 day holiday which is the 21st. Even though they have been saying it is out of their hands this is the public part they had to do to make it work even though all the decisions have been made. Everybody is excited.

8-15-2012 Gary:
Decisions are being made overseas that are acting like this is complete. We do have people at a number of locations who have been contacted by banks saying that it is time and they are negotiating to move forward with those people. The banks are preparing on different levels and everybody started moving into positions at different locations over the weekend and on Monday were prepared and believing this is complete. We had news that Christine Legarde was over here and dealing with some very key issues. We also are aware that there were a number of other commitments made and money being moved. I know in the news Fox even talked again about a global release and there were going to be some announcements. So everybody was eager and waiting and I believe every one of them was referring to the global currency change. So all of a sudden we have an issue. I’ve heard that one issue was dealing with a currency that is in the basket. Some people had some challenges with that one currency and they are going back through some things and correcting the issues there were with that one currency and it was not the one we are looking at but was one of the others. But it is close.

BLUWOLF CHAT, 15 AUGUST

Bluwolf chat 8/15/12 8:27 PM EDT

[bluwolf] buenas noches
[Agent 007] bluwolf good evening!!! 
[mangiabuona2] bluwolf hello
[bluwolf] hi just a fly by to see how you all are doing, hope well 
[gf1hawk] bluwolf good evening and God Bless You
[bluwolf] TY
[Agent 007] bluwolf we are all good
[Agent 007] how are you?
[bluwolf] that is good to know
[bluwolf] i am well ty
[bluwolf] not a lot of activity or intel available
[bluwolf] as I can se
[Agent 007] bluwolf so true - real quiet out there
[bluwolf] well that is true and it is also good
[Agent 007] bluwolf yes!!
[bluwolf] things will flow better that way
[bluwolf] and security is a good thing for all involved
[Agent 007] bluwolf we miss you
[bluwolf] no negative thoughts out there what so ever, all is still on the right track
[bluwolf] I have missed you all too
[bluwolf] where is studmuffin
[bluwolf] give him my regards
[Agent 007] I am not sure - he is usually in by now
[bluwolf] listen up I must say something, look there are some comments from a few out there about giving up and returning over their dinars for whatever the reason, though it may be true for some it could be a The Evil word that should never be mentioned again or trick to play by some to. Do not fall for this, and those that really do give in will repent in the near future as this thing unfolds.. Think it over for a minute it just ain't the right thing to do under no circumstances.
[bluwolf] Those that never give up are the ones that really prosper in life..Bluwolf
[ronmoore48] Amen
[Agent 007] Amen and thanks bluwolf
[toni1960] amen
[ronmoore48] Some people should here what you have been through in the last 2 yrs and you haven't given up bluwolf
[bluwolf] If there is no failure in life, we will never know what we have achieved through it. bluwolf
[ronmoore48] bluwolf I really think they should here that from you not giving up
[Agent 007] so true
[Wizards13] bluwolf I've had my share of failure and it makes a person stronger
[bluwolf] ronmoore48 not giving up: Two years ago I lost everything that was valuable to my existence, I lost my wife, my mother and my grandmother all at same time, I lost my home but I never looked back and I never gave up. See God has a meaning and a plan for me and my family, and this investment is his plan and the future for all involved in my family, though I suffer my loss I embrace life with the same intensity, holding on to my faith and to Gods dreams and plans is what keeps me going on, because at the end when all is over and done with things will be better, I never gave up on any of you because see that is my mission imposed by my Lord and I will complete that mission till its end.
[bluwolf] My situation is seeing to it that you get paid, your situation is seeing to it on you being rich, are we clear?
Yes!!

DINAR CHATTER, 15 AUGUST


[bluwolf] listen up I must say something,look there are some comments from a few out there about giving up and returning over there dinars for whatever the reason,thow it may be true for some it could be a The Evil word that should never be mentioned again or trick to play by some to..

Do not fall for this,,and thows that really do give in will repent in the near future as this thing unfolds.. Think it over for a minute it just ain't the right thing to do under no cercumstances. 7:40 PM [bluwolf] Those that never give up are the ones that really prosper in life..Bluwolf

rustyc: 6:33:15 PM]: The following was sent to me…. This is some of the info I am getting from a site that I'm on. Pretty exciting stuff! I    its true!! "China Launching Gold Backed Global Currency! http://ning.it/NluUzz"

 5 hours ago "Per IMF Sources WF Houston is now a major player for IQD Exchange (100% Confirmed)" 5 hours ago "RUMOR: (Bank Codes may be coming out today (Unconfirmed)" 4 hours ago "INTEL: MORE CONTACTS SAYING WE SHOULD SEE THE RV TODAY THRU TOMORROW" 1 hour ago "HIGH ALERT! HIGH ALERT! YOUR UNDERGROUND INTEL TEAM IS NOW ON ITS HIGHEST ALERT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!" 1 hour ago "SMOKING HOT INTEL SHORTLY......." 35 minutes ago
cruiser] Real Quick: Listen and watch this: .

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000109434&play=1

[honeybelle] cruiser ok and can u tell us is this a good thing?

[cruiser] also we have this Seven Banks Subpoenaed in Libor Investigation   :http://www.cnbc.com/id/48678563

[cruiser] honeybelle Just watch it. It is real good news and talks of everything that has been discussed today.

[honeybelle] cruiser so is this going to speed up the ce of the iqd?

[cruiser] honeybelle This is part of the whole package with the CE in it.

cruiser] this is the video proof for the breaking news on cnbc of this healine :"Marc Faber on CNBC: Market Is Overbought; If We Drop 150 Points on the S&P, We Will Have QE3 and QE4" .

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/?video=3000109434&play=1

[cruiser] He has been right about a lot of things.

[greek1212] cruiser if we see Qe3 or Qe4 were saying the RV is included in those??

[cruiser] greek1212 not accompanied as in the public. They will be what the public sees and knows along with all of the other Stimulus. The realignment will be a part of it, with our cash in happening in a private matter.

[thudz04] cruiser do you have any guesses on how soon we may see the QE3 & QE4?

[cruiser] thudz04 I think QE3 is sooner, as in a week or 2, possibly days. But that is just my opinion. Really would like to see a self off of the market.

[mbd4049] cruiser read the CNBC article and isn't it funny how most of the well known banks, Chase, USB, etc. are always in the news but not WF? lol

[cruiser] mbd4049 yes it is.

[mbd4049] cruiser do you think the Chinese are just waiting for these banks to implode and then they have all the business?

[cruiser] mbd4049 Not at all. The banks will not be destroyed. They will be made smaller ( no more too big too fali). Broken into regular deposit and savings type banks and not these monsters that can lose all of your money with no responsibilty.

[BOBGETZ6] Something to consider in thinking that Iraq is totally in control; when have we ever won a war, occupired a country, and not been in almost total control for years?

POPPY, ZIGMEISTER & 4APROFIT POST, 15 AUGUST

8-15-2012 Poppy3: The 11:30am today process they are speaking is solid with time table I mentioned yesterday. Agenda and schedule if maintained will have all done and completed in DAYS ahead. Be ready for continued news. Vote on the security cabinet after Eid al-Fitr On: Wednesday 08/15/2012 15:32 MP for the coalition of state law, Abdul Salam Maliki said the names of ministers security will come to the House of Representatives after the Eid al-Fitr.  "The names of Ministers security to fill the Ministries of Interior and Defense will come to Parliament after the holiday as part of the reform plan adopted by the National Alliance to overcome the current political crisis. This step will be the imporatant anchor to bring the political blocs and to achieve consensus sought by the National Alliance for consolidation among the most important principles of the paper of political reform which is opening the doors of the solution.

8-15-2012 Zigmeister: Here is what I find interesting, they are selling short term bonds. They have implied a few times they planned to, but I have not read before they actually are. I have mentioned this before via a banker as of a few months back, their bonds are doing very well. It seems to me, they are doing many things we are unaware of....well that is banking. The treasury transfers are not grappling with the public for limited circulation is currently on the banks and private banks, "explaining that the treasury transfers short-term expires at the end of the year which comes to finance the deficit of my time while the bonds, the central bank to be long term and will last for years." He said the Bank bonds and treasury transfers are sold in a weekly auction held by the

8-15-2012 4aprofit: I've always said that you dont spend time or money like Iraq has done...voting on, deliberating over, going before Parliament, etc., with all the issue's of/about their money, the zero's, etc. If you know something is heading into the crapper, let it go, forget it, let the case be closed and move on. They've had appx. 10 years to tank this stuff, while things were much worse over there, and if they have'nt by now...why not? On another note, if it was a doomed currency, and/or a scam, as some call it...why have'nt they simply let it float and just see where it ends up, instead of keeping it at an artificially controlled rate? (What value is there to hide..as per locking it in at a rate that cant even move, as per the true markets values?). BOTTOM LINE: WHY FOR GOD'S SAKE WORRY OVER THIS STUFF LIKE THEY HAVE IF IT'S NOT EVEN FLOATING, AS PER SEEING WHAT IT IS GOING TO DO BEFORE PRINTING ANYMORE OF THIS STUFF. FOR EXAMPLE THE SMALLER NOTES, OR SOME NEW BILLS WITH DIFFERENT LANGUAGES, ETC. IF YOUR GOING TO LET IT ALL GO INTO TANK ANYWAY. WHY WORRY OVER THE NOTES YOU'VE ALREADY GOT THAT ARE WORTHLESS, OR ALL THE WORRYING OVER COUNTERFEITING IF IT'S WORTHLESS, OR PRINTING ANY MORE NEW NOTES THAT ARE'NT EVEN HERE YET AND/OR HOW THEY NEED TO BE PRINTED FOR THIS OR THAT, OR FOR CERTAIN SECTS LIKING? IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU KNOW YOUR GOING NOWHERE WITH YOUR CURRENCY, WHY SPEND THE TIME AND MONEY ACTING LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING VALUABLE? AS THEIR ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN THEIR WORDS. ALL IMO! 

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 15 AUGUST

8-15-2012  Intel Guru Tony    I've gotten calls...this AM... from bankers, folks in Iraq Gov saying good things happening today in Parliament...significant moves...this is the public part that they have to do to make this work...but this is not the day I heard for the RV and they do have a target date, which I won't say...all is good info. All are excited.

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana    I am indeed hearing good argument for a rate higher than .10...they could RV at $1, $.10, or anywhere in between and we will all be happy. They could even RV a little lower than that and I think we will be happy, and if it's higher then GREAT! All the speculation in the world won't change the eventual rate, so let's all remember to stay grounded, patient, and thankful for the blessings we ALREADY have. 

8-15-2012  Intel Guru Hammerman   we have come to a place an time where intel is very hard to come...for the most part because I’m being told all is done...great things are in the works an coming to us fast...the feeling from all sources is very positive.

8-15-2012  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    WE ARE STILL IN A VERY GOOD POSITION.  I HAD HOPED AND WAS TOLD THAT LAST NIGHT I WAS TO BE EXPECTED TO RECEIVE THE WORD THAT WE ALL WANTED. THAT TIME HAS PASSED AND THIS IS ANOTHER NEW DAY--BUT--WE'RE HEARING AGAIN TODAY OF THE IMMENENT FRUITION OF THIS COMING TO PASS AT ANY TIME. PLEASE BE AWARE THAT WE ALL ARE DOING OUR VERY BEST TO KEEP YOU INFORMED AND THAT SOME INTEL RECEIVED IS STILL CONFIDENTIAL.  AS SOON AS I AM FURNISHED THE "FINAL POST" AND AM AUTHORIZED TO POST IT I WILL DO IT INSTANTLY.

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   We won't have any problem converting our currency into another once it shows a significant rate change appreciation. It's a real currency. It's not really cashing out as much as simply converting into another currency...

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana   Happy 15th of August, just 3-4 days away from the end of Ramadan.  Here's my official feeling... things have been going GREAT lately, and I think there is a great chance for something to happen in the next 6 weeks.    [post 1 of 4...stay tuned!]

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru Mailman17   WE SHALL SEE IF THOSE PESKY LITTLE SMALL DENOMS SITTING IN THE CBI’S VAULT MAKE THEIR APPEARANCE IN SEPT AS A PRE CURSOR TO THE NEW NOTES THAT WILL REPLACE THEM IN JAN IF THEY DO THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN:  THE SMALLS FROM 2003 WILL BE EXCHANGED FOR EITHER LARGE DENOMS OR US CASH.  FOR THE MOST PART FROM SEP TO JAN...THEY WILL BE ADJUSTING TO A NEW RATE AND NEW BILLS (NEW TO THEM...BUT FROM 2003)  COME JAN, A SIMPLE 1-1 WILL BE THE NORM AND MOST EVERY SINGLE 2003 BILL WILL BE OFF THE STREETS.   NOW, ON THE OTHER HAND  COULD THE NEW NOTES WITH THE KURDISH LANGUAGE MAKE AN APPEARANCE INSTEAD IN SEPT?   WHO KNOWS,  BUT THE CBI IS READY!  [post 5 of 6...stay tuned!]

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru Mike   Shabibi is not worried about the things that are coming out…The banking system is in great shape.  I think he is a lot farther along that we thought he was.   Significant amount of dinars he has taken off the street, thats huge for us, that means the dinar is drying up all over...he’s taken 1/3 of his total of the money thats in there into his system back plus what he has on reserve plus what he is drawing in off the streets and then we read this article about electronic banking – how all that is all together now...he is exactly where he wants to be, minus all the pressure of the government.  [post 1 of 2...stay tuned!]

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru L. J.    things are...coming together on the government side where we are seeing a bunch of activity inside of Baghdad and the power players.  It seems they are going to do this reform and seems like they are trying to work together.  Saleh more importantly than anybody has really been active and went down to Baghdad a couple of days ago and has been there...now he has gone off to Germany…we really feel optimistic about something happening...I just can’t believe there is so much synergy.  [post 1 of 3...stay tuned!]

8-15-2012  Intel Guru Bear5642   "O" has absolutely nothing to do with the delay of the illusive RV. Iraq is in control and no one else...Iraq is now positioning themselves to be mega economic force on this planet. Several countries have invested billions in Iraq because their resources have not really been fully tapped into.  I am a bottom line guy and this is the bottom line we are in possession of a great potential of wealth and the IQD WILL RV SOON! 

8-15-2012  Intel Guru Bluwolf    NO CHANGES ON OUR OUTCOME, NOTHING IS NEGATIVE ALL IS STILL LOOKING WELLSTATUS - JUST WAITING ON OUR CALL.

8-15-2012  Intel Guru Hammerman   There was a big meeting tonight [Tuesday] between Maliki & the IMF, don't know why Shabibi would not be included in that.  Also, there was a meeting with Talibani, Maliki & Shabibi and either or IMF and the World Bank.  Info from China said that no group will go before the 22nd, just repeating what I'm being told.  At this point in time the VND will go along with the IQD, they will all go at the same time.  I think we are close, I will start to look for this after the 22nd and closer to the 1st of for tier 1, the rest between the 15th - 20th of September.

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru Mailman17   AN ARTICLE REFERENCING KUWAIT ...SEEMS TO ME LIKE A PIPELINE SAYS I LOVE YOU.   THAT COMBINED WITH ART 140 AND ERBIL MOST LIKELY BEING DONE BY AT THE FARTHEST...MID SEPT  GUESS WHAT THE UN SEES THEN -  CHAP 7 AND WITH CHAP 7 COMES?  875 BILL DOLLARS.   NO WONDER THEY WANT SHABS GONE.  THEY WANT HIM OUT OF THE WAY OF THAT CASH.   AINT GONNA HAPPEN,  THAT’S HIS CASH TO BACK THE DINAR.  THIS IS FANTASTIC AS IT NOW GIVES US THE UN'S TIMETABLE FOR ART 140 AND THE HCL TO BE DONE.  [post 4 of 6...stay tuned!]

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru Med  THE REST OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF RELEASING IRAQ FROM CHAPTER VII.  THEY HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR DISTRUST FOR THE MALIKI GOVT AND BELIEVE IT IS NOW INFLUENCED MORE BY IRAN THAN THEIR OWN PEOPLE.  I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BECOME A SEMI PUPPET FOR IRAN AT LEAST AT THE UPPER LEVELS AND THIS TO ME MAKES SENSE AND ALSO PUTS LIGHT ON THE REASONS FOR THE STATE OF LAW BEING AGAINST THE REVALUE OF THE DINAR.   REVALUING THE DINAR HURTS IRAN AND NOW IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE ON THE NEGATIVE ATTACKS ON THE CBI AT LEAST THAT IS JUST MY OPINION  BUT THE ACCUSATIONS MADE BY THE OTHER COUNTRIES SEEM TO MAKE ME BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE.

SWFLORIDAGUY, BWM & MIKE POST, 15 AUGUST

8-15-2012 SWFloridaGuy: Many ask how will Iraq be able to pull off a historic revaluation of this magnitude. It's a fair question and one that's hard to answer because there is no real precedence for it.  However, there is also no real precedence for the unique investment opportunity Iraq presents, which we have all recognized and is the reason we are here. Previously there have been 14 episodes where a country's real and nominal effective exchange rate appreciated by 10% or more without discretionary adjustments of the parity by the government (over a two-year window or less), leading to sustained real effective appreciation. Since 1960 there have been 25 episodes of large nominal and real appreciations. Usually these revaluations were the indirect consequence of the appreciation of the anchor currency of the peg against other currencies.

In Iraq's case, their currency is severely undervalued due to UN resolution 661, a devastated infrastructure and they have had to completely rebuild their banking sector. But they have also been on the path to recovery for quite some time. Iraq presents a unique situation and there is a tremendous gap between the current rate and previous values the IQD has held. It has taken almost a decade and it's my belief that after the GOI implements these latest reforms, the recovery process will have reached its pinnacle and be strong enough to support phase 3 of the economic reforms.  Studies have shown that the immediate output response of large RVs is positive, i.e. output growth accelerates, but they turn negative after about three years. For years now economists have been studying ways to raise the value of the IQD and sustain that growth as well. If they were planning a straight redenomination with no significant rate increase they would have never spent this much time studying the long term effects, in-country (and out) security issues, counterfeiting, de-dollarization and how to institute a market-based economy where they are respected as a borrow in the eyes of global capital markets.

They have been aided in this endeavor by the IMF, World Bank and many other powerful governments and organizations. Iraq has many options. Oil prices fluctuate so a basket peg would not solve the problem. Iraq may peg the currency to the export commodity (PEP). The CBI could set the daily price of IQD in direct proportion to the daily price of a barrel of oil in terms of USD. That would stabilize the price of oil in domestic terms. That's the best of both worlds (fixed & floating) and would also help promote integration into world markets. Iraq has many options and the CBI and Finance Committee have told us that they are going to make their move (whatever that may be) in 2012.  These next few months could be very exciting and my opinion is that it's in Iraq's (and the world's) best interest to revalue, where the Central Banks holding the dinar as a reserve currency would also benefit. This is just my opinion, which may or may not be correct.  


8-15-2012 BWM: I won't get into the expectations that have already gone awry today and last night. It seems that the more people tell me it's going to happen at a certain time, the more unrealistic I feel about it going down then. Especially when the "murus" start circling the intel and the confirmations are flying. That's my term for the wannabe's. You know the ones that spend hours on the phone with the so-called ones going over all their confirmations of information they need to tell someone about. I tend to look at the nearest possibility of it happening.  I mean could it happen in September sure. BUT could it happen now? I tend to look for the earliest opportunity I believe it could happen and debunk from there.

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru Mike   Shabibi is not worried about the things that are coming out…The banking system is in great shape.  I think he is a lot farther along that we thought he was.   Significant amount of dinars he has taken off the street, thats huge for us, that means the dinar is drying up all over...he’s taken 1/3 of his total of the money thats in there into his system back plus what he has on reserve plus what he is drawing in off the streets and then we read this article about electronic banking – how all that is all together now...he is exactly where he wants to be, minus all the pressure of the government

Parliament stresses that the deletion of zeros does not support the national economy , 15 AUGUST


Parliament stresses that the deletion of zeros does not support the national economy 


Date: Thursday, 16.08.2012 9:06



Baghdad / term 


A member of the Economic Committee in the House of Representatives Salman al-Moussawi, 

said the project to replace the currency after you delete the zeros of which does not help to 

support the national economy, but the success of the project depends on the strength of the 

economy and the stability of the domestic market.Moussawi said, according to the Agency (news): You should think about how to liberate the 

national economy from unilateral rentier based on oil revenues to a robust economy based on 

different economic sectors before coming towards the implementation of an important 

project affects the economy of the country both in terms of positive or negative. 

He added that implementation of the project to delete the zeros of the three by the central 


bank without a feasibility study will develop the national economy in a dark tunnel and the 

uncertain future no one knows the results, confirming that the project does not help to 

support the economy and raising its standards, but support comes through the activation of 

the private sector and the various economic sectors, and then think about replacing the 

currency. 


called to deliberate, before the application of the deletion of zeros in order not to harm the 

national economy and the local currency. 


For his part, counting the decision the House of Representatives Mohamed Khaldi stimulate 

investment in Iraq a viable solution to eliminate the crisis of youth unemployment. 


said Khalidi, according to the (Euphrates News) "The investment a positive role in the 

elimination of unemployment being a magnet for global capital that can be through their 

investment projects run as much as possible of young people unemployed and salaries 

rewarding Ngném work in government departments." 


and pointed out that "increasing the proportion of the investment budget in the country can 

also contribute to the work to get rid of unemployment, where the percentage of the 

operating budget in the country reached 70%. " 

said Khalidi that "the high percentage of the operating budget is a real disaster and the 

omission of the importance of increasing the proportion of the investment budget so that the 

World Bank objected to such a high percentage that exist in the countries of the world by only 15%. " 


The country has seen for many years a severe crisis with unemployment, which announced 

the Ministry of Planning and Development Cooperation of Iraq in 2012 for the high 

unemployment rate in Iraq to unprecedented levels, pointing out that the grades which will 

be launched by the Iraqi government within the budget is not sufficient to eliminate them..

Breitlings Wed Report 15 AUGUST

ADAM MONTANA CHAT, 15 AUGUST

[Adam Montana] morning everyone! Happy 15th of August, just 3-4 days away from the end of Ramadan
[Adam Montana] Here's my official feeling... things have been going GREAT lately, and I think there is a great chance for something to happen in the next 6 weeks... so with that said, the current discount on VIP is OVER as of the end of Ramadan
[Adam Montana] if things keep going the way they are, I will be CLOSING the doors on VIP shortly after that - most likely within a few days.
[Adam Montana] Quite frankly, we have a great VIP group and I look forward to working with them after the RV. We don't need to dilute the ranks with last minute joiners... so if you had considered joining, now is possibly your last chance
[Adam Montana] with that said - let's do some questions! It's been a slow week in actual "news", with Ramadan going on... exactly as I said it would be. The list this week is pretty short
[Adam Montana] kcw, ready when you are! 


[kcw] MNPhila Adam, thank you for dinarvets.com and everything you do. In the past, you predicted a "ten cent RV." In a recent email, you stated that you were told by people whom you truly respect that the ten cent RV was way off base and that they thought the RV would be much higher. Do those trusted individuals still believe in an RV that is higher than ten cents? Thanks! 

[Adam Montana] I am indeed hearing good argument for a rate higher than .10
[Adam Montana] to bring this chat back down to earth for a second... they could RV at $1, $.10, or anywhere in between and we will all be happy. They could even RV a little lower than that and I think we will be happy, and if it's higher then GREAT! All the speculation in the world won't change the eventual rate, so let's all remember to stay grounded, patient, and thankful for the blessings we ALREADY have. :tiphat:
[Adam Montana] next please! 


[kcw] Rowena Nickson Adam, I have a concern about giving my dinar to an attorney to give to another attorney to cash in for me. If memory serves me - it has been said that we should not let them out of our posession until we see that they are delarue certified. We bought the pkt so we do not need to leave the US to cash in. I have faith in you based on the years I have been reading your posts and chats and joining your site. It is my opinion you are trying to help all of us to the very best of your ability and for that I thank you. Please elaborate on this process for us. I am aware that all things should be clear once the RV occurs, but like you said we need to be prepared. Thank you for your hard work and looking out for those of us who are not in-the-know!! Rowena Nickson 

[Adam Montana] ok this is an OSI question, but I know some people aren't in the OSI section but still hear rumors about the strategies.. so I'll answer here in open chat. 
[Adam Montana] First, I agree ONE HUNDRED PERCENT that you should not separate yourself from your Dinar, you should maintain control in all situation. 
[Adam Montana] the situation you are talking about is a CORPORATE matter, which removes you personally from the transaction, but you are still able to be right there at the table/counter/exchange 
[Adam Montana] :twothumbs: 
[Adam Montana] I know a lot of people will read that last part and wonder what I'm talking about... we're getting close to the end of this ride, so I'll just spill a little bit 
[Adam Montana] as a VIP member here at DinarVets.com, you get access to a ton of resources - one of which is a solid strategy to SIGNIFICANTLY reduce the taxes you will have to pay after the RV, and also protect your investment(s) from lawsuits, seizures, and more. 
[Adam Montana] next please! 

[kcw] simple Been away from Dinar material for quite awhile... Economically, what one factor prevents Iraq from dropping the zeroes this year? 

[Adam Montana] There is no "one" factor - this situation is not that simple. It's a complex matter in which you must consider the BIG picture, not just little items.
[Adam Montana] On the whole, I see Iraq as becoming more and more stable and solvent, which leads me to believe that they are in a position to have a stronger currency.
[Adam Montana] next please! 


[kcw] coorslite21 Adam My understanding is that in order for Iraq to RV the IQD they need to first have a stabile Government, and a stabile country.....I realize they have made progress on this......however with the continued car bombings and violence......and with the instability there seems to be within the GOI and even the unstable ground Maliki seems to be on......do you really think Iraq is ready for this ascension to becoming a part of the world financial community??.. 

[Adam Montana] You have a good point, but I think you may be focused on the media's preference to report on the sensational stories (the few bombings that happen) rather than the unsensational (*yawn* Iraq still moving forward, stable, happy joy *yawn*.....)
[Adam Montana] overall, violence is down DRAMATICALLY and stability is UP. The media still needs to sell papers and advertisements, so of course they will focus on the negative.
[Adam Montana] Moral of the story: don't trust the media
[Adam Montana] next please! 


[kcw] M.Duke Question for you Adam I would like some information on the OSI that the groupe has and what it takes to invest . I am sort of new to this stuff ,thank you for all the help 

[Adam Montana] Check the pinned topics in the VIP section :twothumbs:
[Adam Montana] There is no current need to "invest" in anything other than your time and education.
[Adam Montana] next please! 


[kcw] skitealwedrop Hey Adam, Due to the never ending Muslim holiday that we are experiencing I suspect that you have no new information to report regarding our investment. If you do please tell us. I'm curious to know your thoughts regarding the R and R ticket. I'm pumped. Without expounding on my thoughts, I'm curios to know yours. A smart cheese head in DC is not a bad thing in my opinion. Thanks in advance. Ski 

[Adam Montana] Well, the "neverending" holiday is ending in a few days, so I'll pass on that part. Regarding the "R and R" ticket... the more I learn about Ryan, the more I like him. Although I am undecided and have yet to come up with what I will call my "official" opinion, as a business owner I know I like spreadsheets that don't end in RED. So, I'm looking forward to movement in that direction no matter who brings it. Ryan seems like a good candidate for that purpose, regardless of Obamas Birth Certificate or Romneys Tax Returns - in my opinion, those are both moot points. What IS important is fiscal responsibility for the future of our nation.
[Adam Montana] (Thanks for getting me on a rant! :lol: )
[Adam Montana] next please! 


[kcw] go4profit Hello, Adam. Thank you for your insights and the balanced wisdom that you bring to this investment. In light of recent economic news that Iraq is now the #2 producer of crude, that they have had the largest wheat production in 30 years, and given that sanctions against Iran seem to be declining their economy can you tell me how or if you think these factors might impact an RV? It seems that these events are leading to a growing economy among the OPEC nations, which cannot hurt. Anxiously awaiting the end of this long holiday and more anxiously awaiting and RV 

[Adam Montana] Iraq is officially a reserve-wealthy nation? Oh, surprise surprise! I love how the l0psters hate to admit they have massive wealth... this little fact is indeed positive for us and it only serves to further my faith in the Iraqi Dinar
[Adam Montana] that was it for this week! I hope you're all enjoying what's left of summer, hang tight while Ramadan is wrapping up, and as always.... GOOOO RVVVVVV!!!!!
 

OKIEOILMAN POST, 15 AUGUST

[..OKIEOILMAN] WHILE WE'RE ALL TIRED OF THIS ENDLESS WAITING AND INTEL BEING CHANGED DAILY OR EVEN HOURLY WE ARE STILL IN A VERY GOOD POSITION. THERE ALWAY'S SEEM'S TO BE ANOTHER ISSUE TO EMERGE UNKNOWN TO THE INTEL PROVIDERS THAT MAKE'S OUR INTEL SEEM LIKE GOSSIP OR RUMOR'S. WHENEVER INTEL IS FURNISHED TO YOU ON THIS SITE OR ANY OTHER SITE AT THE TIME IT IS THE LATEST AVAILABLE. 

WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO FERRET OUT THE RUMOR'S AND GOSSIP AND FIND THE CORRECT INTEL. I HAD HOPED AND WAS TOLD THAT LAST NIGHT I WAS TO BE EXPECTED TO RECEIVE THE WORD THAT WE ALL WANTED. THAT TIME HAS PASSED AND THIS IS ANOTHER NEW DAY--BUT--WE'RE HEARING AGAIN TODAY OF THE IMMENENT FRUITION OF THIS COMING TO PASS AT ANY TIME. 

PLEASE BE AWARE THAT WE ALL ARE DOING OUR VERY BEST TO KEEP YOU INFORMED AND THAT SOME INTEL RECEIVED IS STILL CONFIDENTIAL. MY PATIENCE LIKE MOST OF YOU IS WEARING VERY THIN AND I AM AS ANXIOUS AS ANYONE TO CONCLUDE THIS. AS SOON AS I AM FURNISHED THE "FINAL POST" AND AM AUTHORIZED TO POST IT I WILL DO IT INSTANTLY. UNTIL THEN ALL WE CAN DO IS KEEP THE PRAYER'S GOING UP AND KEEP THE FAITH IN A PROGRAM THAT IS INEVITABLE AND A SUREITY.

KAPERONI, PHOENIX & REIDAR VISSER POST, 15 AUGUST

8-15-2012 Kaperoni: The theme today is 'race to save the Iraqi economy.'  Ramadan comes to an end this week.  Here are a few articles to review this Wednesday: "Save the economy." "Iraq: the formation of a Committee to unify oil and gas bills." "120 law at the table of Parliament." "Member of the Committee on economy: Iraq under item VII Advent slower world investment country." DinarAlert is excited to have another Conference Call Friday, August 17th @ 8pm CST 9pm EDT hosted by Enorrste, Russell and Kaperoni. This should be a great call.  Q & A will follow.  Please join us.    (805) 399-1000  PIN - 296983#

8-15-2012 Phoenix3333: The GOI resumes official working hours tomorrow. The General Secretariat of the CoMinisters has decided to resume official working in Baghdad and provinces on Thursday 8-16-2012.

8-15-2012 Reidar Visser (Iraq Historian): Iraq interior ministry solemnly swears there is no oil smuggling to Iran in the south. "Ministry of Interior denied the existence of cases of smuggling of crude oil via the South to Iran. The Ministry monitors the seriousness and high concentration border crossings with Iran did not register any the case of smuggling of crude oil and is working to deploy patrols near the Iranian border to prevent any attempts to smuggle crude oil." Saudis are very antagonistic towards Maliki. May explain why they invited Talabani to OIC as head of state. Maliki declares Mecca OIC meeting as terrorist, says invitation to Iraq was only for Talabani. "Prime Minister Maliki's Islamic Summit was held yesterday in Mecca. The invitation to Iraq by Saudi Arabia was exclusively for President Talabani and without vested anyone to attend a substitute for it." Not sure about Maliki's invitation to OIC. In theory, Iraq could have sent Talabani or Khuzaie to Riyadh as head of state. 

BEAR POST, 15 AUGUST

FROM BEAR5642 WED AM:  "O" has absolutely nothing to do with the delay of the illusive RV. Iraq is in control and no one else. People need to stop this nonsense and understand that Iraq is now positioning themselves to be mega economic force on this planet. 

Several countries have invested billions in Iraq because their resources have not really been fully tapped into. This bickering among the GURUS is not helping anyone nor is it going to speed up the process. People please understand Scotti G and I still have very powerful informative people who trust us with confidential information.

We have been quiet to earn the trust and respect of our intel providers. Our number one PRIORIY IS TO SPEAK THE TRUTH and share it with YOU the PEOPLE. Debtarheelgirl is one whom I trust and I share with her alone. Okie and I are restored and I do love him much and you know what I mean. 

I am a bottom line guy and this is the bottom line we are in possession of a great potential of wealth and the IQD WILL RV SOON! Have a blessed day and whatever you do DON'T WORRY TAKE A BREATHE and DO NOT SELL YOUR DINAR.

BEAR5642

HAMMERMAN, MED & MAILMAN POST, 15 AUGUST

8-15-2012  Intel Guru Hammerman   There was a big meeting tonight [Tuesday] between Maliki & the IMF, don't know why Shabibi would not be included in that.  Also, there was a meeting with Talibani, Maliki & Shabibi and either or IMF and the World Bank.  Info from China said that no group will go before the 22nd, just repeating what I'm being told.  At this point in time the VND will go along with the IQD, they will all go at the same time.  I think we are close, I will start to look for this after the 22nd and closer to the 1st of for tier 1, the rest between the 15th - 20th of September.

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru Med  THE REST OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF RELEASING IRAQ FROM CHAPTER VII.  THEY HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR DISTRUST FOR THE MALIKI GOVT AND BELIEVE IT IS NOW INFLUENCED MORE BY IRAN THAN THEIR OWN PEOPLE.  I BELIEVE THEY HAVE BECOME A SEMI PUPPET FOR IRAN AT LEAST AT THE UPPER LEVELS AND THIS TO ME MAKES SENSE AND ALSO PUTS LIGHT ON THE REASONS FOR THE STATE OF LAW BEING AGAINST THE REVALUE OF THE DINAR.   REVALUING THE DINAR HURTS IRAN AND NOW IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE ON THE NEGATIVE ATTACKS ON THE CBI AT LEAST THAT IS JUST MY OPINION  BUT THE ACCUSATIONS MADE BY THE OTHER COUNTRIES SEEM TO MAKE ME BELIEVE IT TO BE TRUE.

8-15-2012  Newshound Guru Mailman17   AN ARTICLE REFERENCING KUWAIT ...SEEMS TO ME LIKE A PIPELINE SAYS I LOVE YOU.   THAT COMBINED WITH ART 140 AND ERBIL MOST LIKELY BEING DONE BY AT THE FARTHEST...MID SEPT  GUESS WHAT THE UN SEES THEN -  CHAP 7 AND WITH CHAP 7 COMES?  875 BILL DOLLARS.   NO WONDER THEY WANT SHABS GONE.  THEY WANT HIM OUT OF THE WAY OF THAT CASH.   AINT GONNA HAPPEN,  THAT’S HIS CASH TO BACK THE DINAR.  THIS IS FANTASTIC AS IT NOW GIVES US THE UN'S TIMETABLE FOR ART 140 AND THE HCL TO BE DONE.

Musawi: supporting the national economy does not come about by replacing the currency and delete zeros, including, but activating the economic sectors, 15 august


Musawi: supporting the national economy does not come about by replacing the currency and delete zeros, including, but activating the economic sectors

Dated: 08/15/2012 06:00:40 Wednesday
Baghdad (news) .. A member of the Economic Commission MP / National Alliance / Salman al-Moussawi, said the project to replace the currency after you delete the zeros of which does not help to support the national economy, but the project’s success depends on the strength of the economy and the stability of the local market.
Moussawi said (of the Agency news): You should think about how liberation of the national economy of unilateral rentier based on oil revenues to a robust economy based on different economic sectors before coming towards the implementation of an important project affects the economy of the country both in terms of positive or negative.
He added that the implementation of the project to delete the zeros of the three by the central bank without a feasibility study economic will put the national economy in a dark tunnel and the uncertain future no one knows the results, confirming that the project does not help to support the economy and promotion, but support comes through the activation of the private sector and the various economic sectors, and is then thought the replacement of the currency.
called to deliberate, before the application of the delete zeros in order not to harm the national economy and the local currency. The Central Bank of Iraq announced (29 September 2011) that the year 2013 will see the deletion of zeros and switch the currency, which warned him, officials and economists because of the presence of mafias currency is preparing to rig the trillions of Iraqi dinars to replace them in the light of planned changes .
has called for the prime minister’s central bank to wait a project delete the three zeroes from the local currency, saying he was a big project and needs to be enough time to apply it. was charged with the Central Bank of Iraq’s government agencies to disrupt monetary reform and vowed persecuting because it was the interests of the country’s financial risk.
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Finance Committee: Describes new currency, 15 august


Finance Committee: Describes new currency

18/04/2012
Finance Committee: deposit in the banks when you switch the currency would be one place
BAGHDAD / JD / .. revealed the Finance Committee parliamentary certain categories of the new currency by the central bank to the process of removing three zeros from small groups to be metal and large paper, referring to the deposit in the banks when you switch the currency would be one place.
Said committee member Magda Al-Tamimi L / JD / “The groups that comprise the new currency will be the small ones metal after deletion of zeros and large groups will be (50)” Fifty dinars “and (100)” a hundred dinars, “equivalent to (50,000)” Fifty thousands “or ( 100,000) “one hundred thousand dinars,” at the present time. explained Tamimi, “The small groups are more widely used resorted Bank to be metal so as not to be prone to damage.”
He said, “The categories of paper characterized by small size so that there will be no difficulty in circulation and size of wallets. “She Tamimi,” The central bank has contracted with major companies to be currency printing paper of high quality. “and named Tamimi,” the cost of the actions dedicated to the currency exchange at 150 million dollars. “and noted that the” currency exchange and withdrawal be gradual through the process of filing in banks, “saying,”
The withdrawal of currency be gradual and not once as in the switch before. “noted Al-Tamimi that” the Finance Committee follow-up to the Central Bank and to share what is going on the process of printing new Iraqi currency. “and quoted a member of the Knesset Finance” for an interview Governor of Central Bank “Shabibi” “The deposit in the banks when you switch the currency would be one place and controlled to protect the currency from counterfeiting.”
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CBI announces public sale of gold coins and other foreign currencies to soon, 15 august


CBI announces public sale of gold coins and other foreign currencies to soon

Published on Wednesday, August 15 / August 2012
BAGHDAD / With: Central Bank of Iraq intention to sell gold coins and things of high value close to the public in addition to selling the dollar at auction.
Deputy Governor of Bank of the appearance of Mohammed in a press statement on Wednesday: “The Bank is studying the economic feasibility for the sale of gold coins and monetary and other foreign currencies as well as treasury transfers to the public soon. “
And: “The move was the case earlier in the eighties of the last century, but the circumstances of the siege in the nineties has made ​​people focus on buying the dollar to ease discharged on the market.”
He added: ” The treasury transfers are not grappling with the public for limited circulation is currently on the banks and private banks, “explaining that the treasury transfers short-term expires at the end of the year which comes to finance the deficit of my time while the bonds, the central bank to be long term and will last for years.
He said the Bank bonds and treasury transfers are sold in a weekly auction held by the Central Bank for this purpose.
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