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Wednesday, August 8, 2012

VIC1 CHAT, 8 AUGUST


[..SAMBO] GLAD TO SEE YOU MADE IT BACK vic1tgk - WE MISSED YA
[vic1tgk] ..SAMBO SAMBO... I DO NOT LIKE TALKING GIFTING OR TAXES... YOU CAN GIFT AN INDIVIDUAL UP TO 13GRAND...AND ANYONE PERSON CAN GIFT UP TO 5M... IN YOUR LIFE TIME!

[Elijah72] vic1tgk I don't want to run off course but you told me to e-mail you in regards to copies off your currency and other ways to keep your blessings safe. I just cant figure out were to find your e-mail add.
[vic1tgk] ..SAMBO THAT IS RIGHT! WHY, I SAY THE SAME

[vic1tgk] Elijah72 E-MAIL ME AT "THEGATEKEEPERS2012@YAHOO.COM

[vic1tgk] NOW... I DID SOME EXTENDED RESEARCH... LET ME SAY...THAT MANY ARE QUESTIONING SOME ABOUT WHO? IS HOLDING THIS UP AND IS IRAQ IN CONTROL AND ALL THESE STATEMENTS... THINK... WHY DID IRAN AND SYRIA...FLOOD INTO IRAQ...TO GET DOLLARS...AND WHY? SHUT DOWN 190 CURRENCY DEALERS....

[vic1tgk] I MENTIONED ON MY CALL LAST NIGHT SOME IMPORTANT SCENARIOS... REAL TRUTH BEHIND THE MEASURES TAKEN!
[vic1tgk] I MENTIONED ON MY CALL LAST NIGHT SOME IMPORTANT SCENARIOS... REAL TRUTH BEHIND THE MEASURES TAKEN!

[vic1tgk] SHABIBI... IS PRINTING NEW CURRENCY WITH SPECIAL HISTORICAL VALUES
[vic1tgk] ONE OF THEM IS THE BLUE DOME

[vic1tgk] THE BLUE DOME OF KIRKUK!

[vic1tgk] I MENTIONED ON MY CALL LAST NIGHT SOME IMPORTANT SCENARIOS... REAL TRUTH BEHIND THE MEASURES TAKEN!

SHABIBI... IS PRINTING NEW CURRENCY WITH SPECIAL HISTORICAL VALUES
ONE OF THEM IS THE BLUE DOME
HE BLUE DOME OF KIRKUK!

WHAT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF THE BLUE DOME/
The blue dome ....in KIRKUK, IRAQ
Is the RESTING PLACE OF THE PROPHET DANIEL!!!!!!!!!!!!

BABA GURGUR....THE ETERNAL FIRES OF KING EBAKENAZZAR... IN KIRKUK... NOW THOSE THAT SAY SYRIA...AND IRAN HAVE NO RESULTS ON IRAQ?
OK... THEN TELL ME WHO... AND WHY? THE SAUDIA'S HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT?

MS.HILLARY IS ON HER WAY, REMEMBER... 60 NEW PATRIOT MISSILES SOLD TO KUWAIT FOR 4.2 BILLION

SAUDIA KING ABDULLAH... GATHERS 93MILLION FOR SYRIA FREEDOM FIGHTERS.. OH GUESS WHAT I FOUND OUT?

HAFAZ ASSAD'S YOUNGER BROTHER WHO TRIED TO OVER THROW HIS OLDER BROTHER YEARS AGO.... HAS 4 WIVES! ONE OF HIS FOUR WIVES IS THE SISTER OF THE KING OF SAUDI ARABIA!!!
YES...RIFAAT HAFAZ

GUESS...THE PRIME MINISTER HEARD ...THE WORDS OF HILLARY! WE DEMAND ALL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS...TO LEAVE
GUESS THE PRIME MINISTER OF SYRIA... DID FOR A GOOD REASON!

SO.... RIFAAT HAFAZ.... TLASS .... THE PRIME MINISTER.... GENERALS... ALL DEFECTING....WHY?

BECAUSE.... THEY KNOW!!! THEY ALL KNOW WHAT IS COMING!!!
WHAT IS COMING!!!

YES...LEON PINEDA.... TOLD ISRAEL
YES
YOU MIGHT STOP ...IRAN FOR 1YEAR; HOWEVER
THE USA WILL .....STOP IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM FOR GOOD!!!
YOU ALL SEE... A GREAT PICTURE FORMING?
YES.... THE ARAB...SPRING WILL BE DONE!!!

SYRIA AND IRAN ...THE TROUBLE MAKERS
OH... BY THE WAY... DID SAUL NOT BECOME PAUL! ON THE ROAD TO ....DAMASCUS!!! YES...HISTORY DOES TELL US A LOT! SO, YOU ALL WANT A SAFE WORLD... I DO! SO, WE WILL AND CAN DO GOOD DEEDS...WITH OUR GIFT! THE USA... IS THE LEADER! THINK ...YOU KNOW THE REAL DEAL... WE WILL STAMP OUT TERROR! ONCE AND FOR ALL! PAKISTAN... WHO DID WE KNOCK OUT THERE?
WE ARE ...AS I SAID....BEFORE(THERE)!

[vic1tgk] I HOPE I HAVE MADE IT CLEAR! BAD...PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF MONEY... GOD HELP US!!!
[vic1tgk] ANY QUESTIONS?

[hog1] vic1tgk : Is the hold up a person, a country, or the issue with Syria?
[vic1tgk] hog1 I NOT TALKING A HOLD UP... ALL IS ON PLAN! REMEMBER...AUGUST 22 2012... RUSSIA COMES INTO THE W.T.O., YOU THINK ABOUT THAT! ALSO....THEIR ALLOWING A NATO SITE IN RUSSIA!!! GET IT/

[Dovesfreedom] Vic1tgk..... Are you saying there are still substantial holdups on the CE manifesting?
[vic1tgk] Dovesfreedom NO

[vic1tgk] FOLKS WHAT WE KNOW TODAY...IS DIFFERENT FROM 3 YEARS AGO.... WE ARE IN THE MIX... NO HOLD UPS...WE ARE NOW IN A SAFE .... POSITION!

[Elijah72] vic1tgk Why do they even care to shut down other "190" currency dealers? How does that benifit them in the whole scenario? or maybe to stop the spread of wealth to the christian community?
[vic1tgk] Elijah72 BOY... BROTHERMAN... THESE ARE MINI... CHOP SHOPS.... OR LAUNDERING SHOPS! GET IT! MOVING MONEY FOR "BAD" PEOPLE!!!

[vic1tgk] IF... YOU WE'RE SHABIBI... WHAT WOULD YOU DO? ALLOW CRIMINALS....FROM IRAN, SYRIA.... PLO.... ALQ' HAMMAS ... HEZBOLLAH... MUJAHEDIN... YEMEN.... ALL THESE GUYS...LIKE YOU KNOW WHO? THE DEAD ...GUY! ALL TO HOLD YOUR "PRECIOUS CURRENCY" ?

[bighunter2] vic1tgk Syria and Iran are past being trouble makers, I take it. Checkmate?
[vic1tgk] bighunter2 WE"THE PEOPLE" WERE AND ARE LOADED....FOR BEAR! YES... WE THE PEOPLE...KICKED THEIR ...U/KNOW!!!
LOADED!

[rem6330] Vic1 - Thanks for the info. - All makes sense - I just hope they finish the problem once and for all - but I see we are now helping the Syrian rebels and Al Quaida is also helping the rebels so are we going to get into a mess like we ded when we helped the3m against USSR in Afgan.?
[vic1tgk] rem6330 WE ARE CLEANING UP AN OLD MESS.... THAT USSR...LEFT US/USA! THIS ALL STARTED IN AFGHANISTAN...REMEMBER THE RICH....SAUDI, KID THAT WENT TO HELP THEM FIGHT THE USSR? THE GAME IS OVER!!!

[abdul] The USA have not shown much leadership in the past lets hope that changes
[vic1tgk] abdul NOT WITH ME! PLEASE DO NOT GO THERE! PLEASE...WE LEAD...WE ARE NOT LED...!

[wwwgregn21] Vic1 do you see the dinar being traded on the Forex or do you expect it to stay as a exotic currency?
[vic1tgk] wwwgregn21 THE DINAR IS NOT....I REPEAT IT IS NOT AN EXOTIC CURRENCY!!!

[WhatWas] vic1tgk So this is why the buildup along the border? Blue Dome to possibly be a new capital?
[vic1tgk] WhatWas NO... THE IMPORTANCE OF HISTORY! RESPECT ...ALSO...THE PRIDE OF A NATION ON THEIR NEW!!! CURRENCY!!! THE BLUE DOME ...THE ZIGARAUTS... THE FACES...OF "TEACHERS"

[vic1tgk] abdul TALK TO ME!
[vic1tgk] abdul I BELIEVE YOUR NAME TELLS ME A LOT! YOUR VERY WISE! THE USA.... HOWEVER IS A VERY TOUCHY... SUBJECT WITH ME! BECAUSE I KNOW BETTER!!! SO...DO YOU!

[donc0725] vic1tgk What do you know today that you didn't yesterday that is positive?
[vic1tgk] donc0725 THAT WE ARE IN THE APEX.... THE ZENITH POINT... THE PINNACLE.... THE POINT OF BING! WHEN ... A SUB... SENDS OUT A SONAR...PING...WHAT DOES IT RECEIVE?

[Elijah72] Id want this way past done if I were shabs, A lot of iraqs possible enemies are going to have so much of this currency that they will be able to buy really expensive weapons and lots of them with there own currency. Id want the money to be put up now.

[vic1tgk] Elijah72 SEE THAT IS WHERE YOUR WRONG!!! WITH ...HCL MONEY AND 64 MILLION EYES ON THE PIPELINE...NO WAY!!! NO MAN... WILL TAKE HIS LIFE....WILL NOT HAPPEN! MONEY WILL MAKE THEM ... CAPABLE OF DEALING WITH THE REAL...WORLD! WHY? DO MEN GO OFF AS A SUICIDE BOMBER? BECAUSE THEY CANNOT SUPPORT THEIR FAMILY!!! NOT ANYMORE!!!

[MySaviorLives] vic1tgk The printing of the new money with the Blue Dome, will this have any effect on the dinar we a holding currently?
[vic1tgk] MySaviorLives NO

[abdul] vic1tgk, we shall leave it at that, thanks for the info and updates... I like your honesty.
[vic1tgk] abdul OK... I HOPE TO SEE YOU IN IRAQ!!! I WILL GO THERE ...AND GIVE MY THANKS TO THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ! THAT IS ONE OF MY MANY... DEEDS TO BE DONE!!!

[specialchild] vic1tgk this is not really a dinar question but I would like to know if you know anything about this topic, Can you tell us what was stolen in the museum when the war started in Iraq? Did they find any of the artifacts?
[vic1tgk] specialchild YES... MANY ARE STORED....IN ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT! THERE WILL BE IN NEW IRAQ... MUSEUM! IN THE ERBIL.... MUSEUM! REMEMBER ...MALIKI...WANTED..
[Midmo] vic1tgk Do we know how many weeks the UST bought?
[vic1tgk] Midmo WHO...REALLY CARES! AT TWO MONTHS IT IS 7.7 TRILLION!!!
[vic1tgk] HOLD DOWN THE FORT!!!

[1biz4u] vic1tgk I wonder why Shabbi is printing new money so early?? Thanks
[vic1tgk] 1biz4u THE REASON SHABS....IS PRINTING NEW CURRENCY.... IS BECAUSE ALL THE SMALLER DENOMS....THAT WILL NOT LEAVE IRAQ...WILL BE WORTH.... YES! ALOT OF MONEY! IN IRAQ.... AS WELL AS ....IN OUR CURRENCY EXCHANGE...HERE! HE IS GOING FROM....4BILLION PIECES OF PAPER TP 1.8 PIECES...OF PAPER! ECONOMICS...101! THE LESS SUPPLY THE "HIGHER" THE VALUE!!!

[marchingon2] vic1tgk ...what branch of the gov makes these purchases and where can i read about it
[vic1tgk] marchingon2 THE UNITED STATES TREASURY! CALL OLE....TIMMY! 

JONNY CHAT, 8 AUGUST


Hello all,

Just dropped in to advise all that i am still ok................................ and expecting things to happen shortly……………… it has been a few days and I am now back in CANADA. I am here to be a part of my son’s wedding…………………………………. I hear so many rumors about myself, it is hard to respond to…………….. I am not under house arrest ………… I have not cashed in ……………………………….  I have no restrictions other than a NDA/NCA ……….. however nothing new is happening ………………… all appears to be done but it is not final for unknown reasons ……………………………………………it is quiet but strangely quiet.

[xyz] .jonnywg shortly as in hours? before 8/9/12?

[.jonnywg] xyz shortly as in who really knows.

[justaguy] .jonnywg Welcome, we used to have an intel guy by that name. j/k lol

[.jonnywg] justaguy there is no intel to give ............... all has been completed for 2 months or more and it is greed and interference that is the delay.

[.jonnywg] I can say that we are ....... and have been in a favorable position for a long time. as said, I am in CANADA AND will be here for a while.
[blessedandhighlyfavored] .jonnywg What is your opinion on Fox Business News talking about an article today that was published in Feb 2012 about the Iraqi Dinar being a scam and/or fraud and advise people not to invest? Do you feel this is smoke like the Kuwaiti Dinar revaluation in 1991?

[.jonnywg] blessedandhighlyfavored fox and all the other news are looking for provocative news.

[.jonnywg] Wells Fargo to this day will not deal with the dinar.

[blessedandhighlyfavored] .jonnywg Is that smoke about WF? Isn't WF suppose to be the bank to release the codes to us?

[.jonnywg] blessedandhighlyfavored do not know what it is but in the last 2 months i have been in houston, TAMPA, MILWAKI, DENVER, PHEONIX AND BUFFALO................................... EVERY WELLS FARGO I WENT IN WOULD NOT OPEN A BANK ACCOUT IF I MENTIONED IT WAS FOR DINAR CURRENCY DEPOSITS................................................................ this is their policy until the official rv.

The bank screens are being played with and currently show values at the back currency screens or $4.15 for the IQD.


 [booyah] .jonnywg hi is it really you!!

[.jonnywg] booyah yes and I still own the domains for intel4u.com and 3sintel with SWEETQUEEN AS MY PARTNER.

[highlander65] .jonnywg how much longer can they play with numbers on the backscreens and what is the purpose of doing that ?

[.jonnywg] highlander65 DO NOT KNOW THE PURPOSE BUT 9 MONTHS AGO ALL WAS REAL ........NOW IT IS MISINFO 50% OF THE TIME.

[ram1] .jonnywg Is that $4.15 showing in the US or Canada?

[.jonnywg] ram1 USA, DOLLARS.

[sandytob] .jonnywg it appears that no one really knows why this has not happened yet. Is that true from your viewpoint, or is it just abut information that we are not privy to?

[.jonnywg] sandytob I AGREE.

[CrGsLdy] .jonnywg Are countries really trading the IQD as we have heard?

[.jonnywg] CrGsLdy NO LEGAL CURRENCY TRADES YET BUT............ THERE ARE TRADES ON THE BARTER SYSTEM.

[nathansmom] .jonnywg so it is safe to say this is just about control from the PTB-- and we have NO real idea WHEN this will happen?? We could be looking at months longer?

[.jonnywg] nathansmom THE RV IS A SMALL DROP IN THE BUCKET AS TO THE TOTAL DOLLARS INVOLVED BUT YES IT COULD TAKE TIME OR IT COULD BE TOMORROW.

[dguru] .jonnywg john do yu really think madam wu has anything to do with this?

[.jonnywg] dguru MADAM WU IS THE PERSON IN CHARGE AND IS A CHAMPION OF HUMANITARIAN RIGHTS AND THE REBUILDING OF USA.

[sandytob] .jonnywg since Madame Wu is supposed to be so powerful, and is in charge, why can't she move this along?

[.jonnywg] sandytob MADAM WU HAS TO SATISFY MANY COUNTRIES AND MANY EGOS.

[oucrazy] .jonnywg.. . Does Madam Wu have e desire to push this through as quickly as possible?

[.jonnywg] oucrazy YES.

[carolinah2o~~] .jonnywg Are the packs bring processed and we are just waiting our turn?

[.jonnywg] carolinah2o~~ YES.

[misskitty05] .jonnywg Is there any truth to the rumor that China has given an ultimatum to get this done?

[.jonnywg] misskitty05 WHO KNOWS?  BUT WE HAVE HEARD THIS MANY TIMES.

[booyah] .jonnywg .jonnywg where is bella? is she ok?

[.jonnywg] booyah BELLA HAS HAD SOME MEDICAL ISSUES AND IS DOING PRETTY GOOD...................... JUST NEEDED SOME TIME OFF.

[booyah] .jonnywg tell her we miss her!!

[.jonnywg] booyah I CERTAINLY WILL ..................... HOPE TO TALK TO HER LATER TODAY

[.jonnywg] I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE THIS EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE SOONER THAN LATER.............................................. BUT ALL IS READY TO PROCCEED

[alohadinar] .jonnywg Aloha and it is great to see you back and in better health. Do feel all of the delays have had any effect on the rate, and does prior to the end of August look good?

[.jonnywg] alohadinar RATE CAN BE ANYTHING BUT IN MY OPINION THE PUBLIC RATE WILL BE $4-7 ................ AND A GROUP RATE WILL BE A BIT HIGHER.


[keiji] .jonnywg are the banks still on high alert for this? TY

[.jonnywg] keiji THE BANKS ARE FRUSTRATED BEYOND BELIEF AND ARE OVER PREPARED.

[pebbles1] any word on the VND?

[.jonnywg] pebbles1 WILL RV WITH THE IQD.

[Hebrews11:1] Jonnywg hi Are our bank packages a currency sale to a third or a currency exchange based on the revaluation of the dinar?

[Hebrews11:1] Jonnywg Correction- currency sale to third party.

[.jonnywg] Hebrews11:1 THERE ARE CASHIN PACKAGES AND DEPOSIT PACKAGES .............. YOU WILL HAVE TO REVIEW BOTH.

[trooperb] jonnywg.. I have yet to have someone explain on how chat sites like this can effect this thing to pop.. Thank you in advance..

[.jonnywg] trooperb THE CHAT SITES CAN STOP THE RV BY DIVULGING CONFIDENTIAL INFO.

 [.jonnywg] THE CHAT SITE SHOULD BE THERE TO DISCUSS WHAT TO DO,,,,,,,,,,, IDEAS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, PROJECTS............................ NOT RATE AND DATE

[dguru] .jonnywg who really knows the confidential info?

[.jonnywg] dguru A FEW.

[M64] .jonnywg good evening, just got into chat, sorry if this was asked but did Wells Fargo release a policy statement in regards to the IQD as you mentioned a few weeks ago? Thanks.

[.jonnywg] M64 A GOOD QUESTION............................ WELLS FARGO HAS SET UP INDEPENDENT WIRE STATIONS IN EACH CURRENCY BRANCHES TO HANDLE THE VOLUME AFTER THE RV.

[da58] .jonnywg could we experience a global currency exchange - without an iraqi rv - or that being at a later date?? (sorry, if this is repeated, lost connection..)

[.jonnywg] da58 NO, ALL AT ONCE.

[pmw1973] blessedandhighlyfavored i have a person at my job that was a solider i asked if she had iqd she said no and hated people like me :)

[.jonnywg] pmw1973 PRAY FOR HER.

[pmw1973] she meant she new she was gettin the shaft I guess.

 [dealdoctor] .jonnywg please elaborate do you meen Wells Fargo has set up independent wire stations in each currency branch to handle the volume BUT there was nothing specific in that new policy reference IQD or VND just currency in general.

[.jonnywg] dealdoctor CANNOT ELBORATE ................ BUT IT IS TO HANDLE VOLUME.

[crossways] .jonnywg Do you have an idea as to how long we will have to exchange at our bank package rate? 7-10

[crossways] days? or more?

[.jonnywg] crossways WELL I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WILL NOT WAIT....................... AND WILL CASHIN AS SOON AS I CAN.

 [meggie55] .jonnywg Are any of your contacts really in a position to really know whats going on IYHO?

[.jonnywg] meggie55 YES BUT DETAILS CANNOT BE REVEALED.............. I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE INFO IN GENERALITIES.....................

[dwg14] .jonnywg i just want to say thanks for aall you do and bring in.... i've been in this 5,5yrs and will be here till . its over (RV) :)

[.jonnywg] dwg14 THE LAST 2 YEARS I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED MORE THAN FULL TIME .................... I NOW WILL HAVE TO DEVOTE SOME TIME AS TO PROVIDING FOOD AND ACCOMMODATION........ LOL

[keiji] .jonnywg are the intel guys being so silent mean they truly think this is upon us?

[.jonnywg] keiji THERE IS NO INTEL LEFT..................... THUS NOTHING TO SAY....................... THE ONLY NEW DEVELOPMENTS ARE MOVEMENTS IN THE PROSPERITY PACKAGES......... AND WGS.................................. THIS EVOLVEMENT IS THE REAL DEAL AND........................ IT IS NEAR COMPLETION.

[childofgod] No matter how broke we all are, we are still here and we are educating ourselves and becoming stronger. We have some serious work to do going forward post RV!

[.jonnywg] childofgod I AGREE.

[diverdown] .jonnywg Do the people holding this up even consider the people suffering in Iraq?

[.jonnywg] diverdown NO.

[greek1212] .jonnywg How come we dont hear anything about the tarriff anymore, that was supposed to be a huge factor for the last 2 months and not a word in Aug???

[.jonnywg] greek1212 NO INFO RELEASED.

[imperium] .jonnywg Please share what you can about the WGS.

[imperium] .., by "near completeion" you mean days?

[.jonnywg] imperium SORRY JUST GENERALITIES...................... THERE HAS BEEN MOVEMENT PROVEN.

[sandytob] .jonnywg I thought the RV had to happen before the PP and WGS could be released? Or do I have that backwards?

[.jonnywg] sandytob COULD BE EITHER WAY .....WHO KNOWS?

[noway37] if its really all done.. wasnt we told once its done ya can turn back.. so why not open up and start talkin and tellin us all.. and quit hiding behind the silence and all?

[.jonnywg] noway37 I ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH DEATH THREATS.

[.jonnywg] THE MODS HERE ARE EDUCATED AND ARE THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS............... SWEET QUEEN DESERVES THE CREDIT.

[bebba] .jonnywg why are you getting death threats? ... sorry... that stunned me.

[.jonnywg] bebba IT HAS INTENSIFIED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS........... I HAVE HAD TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS AS MY IP WILL SHOW DIFFERENT EVERY DAY SO AS TO HIDE MY LOCATION ...........................A LOT OF PEOPLE BLAME BELLA AND MYSELF FOR THE DELAY............... BELLA HAS HAD TO MOVE LOCATIONS BECAUSE OF IT.

 [#2sister] .jonnywg will the PP and WGS benefit us small guys that are nobodies or just the whobodies?

[.jonnywg] #2sister THEY WILL CHANGE AMERICA.

[#2sister] .jonnywg for the better or for the worst?

[.jonnywg] #2sister BETTER.

[youneverknow] jonny good to see you, missed your post, it is very nice to know you and Bella are okay, I hope this to be over soon for your sakes as well as ours.

[.jonnywg] youneverknow THANKS.

[.jonnywg] I WILL BE BACK................. I HOPE TO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS BY FRIDAY AND I WILL POST IT HERE

[dinardr] JONNY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN ..

[#2sister] .jonnywg thank you so very much for your time! Stay safe...We need you and love you guys!!!

[.jonnywg] #2sister WE WILL BE FORCED TO GO AWAY FOR A WHILE ........................ DEPENDS ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES ................... BUT THE THREATS ARE REAL AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LOST A LOT OF MONEY ON RESERVES BLAME US................ WE WILL BE VERY QUIET FOR A WHILE.

THANKS ALL

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 8 AUGUST

8-8-2012  Intel Guru Checkmate   I absolutely believe that the Iraqi dinar has to improve back to where it was or higher.  I am very positive that this could happen at any minute, but I am OK it it lasts longer.

8-8-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   I got a great call last evening and the rumors on the streets of Baghdad are saying the RV is very close and people are said to be preparing to return from kuwait and other regions back to their homes in Iraq. They left for humatarian reasons. Lack of money, health care, etc. Those with the means to leave and work elsewhere are now talking and planning to return very soon. This is great news because they have intel we are not privy to. The professional people like DR's, engineers, lawyers, etc., they had the means to leave and also have inside connections to gather information you and I could not get from the inside of the GOI in Bagdad. I am very encouraged that political progress seems to be moving fast to completion and the public responding in this way definitely shows what BGG and I have been reporting is in fact taking place. Once the politics are in line, our blessing should fall in our laps before we even know it. 

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru Doc     Our opinion continues the initial rate will be around $1.  This in and of itself is huge; however, all of Shabibi's statements around initial rate talk about being on par with the USD.  A recent article suggested the common citizen is expecting something slightly above $1 and at that point would trade their USD for dinars.  This also supports the estimate of $1.13 to de-dollarize the country.  We continue to believe the rate will be of this magnitude because Shabibi has also stated he wants the dinar as the currency of choice going into 2013.  To RV at the massive rates being reported would be economic suicide for Iraq.  Also remember the CBI is a privately held business and as such exits to make money.  RVing at a lower rate and working the rate up over time affords the CBI of a greater profit potential.  We report, you decide.    [post 4 of 4]

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Now this quote is simply amazing.  “This does not affect the value of the dinar so far but it opens the dinar to the free currency market such as against the dollar, etc.”   It is telling us that the value of the old dinar (3 zero notes) is not effected. Clearly, this is what we want.   Some may want to interpret this saying “yes the value does not change and the exchange rate also stays the same,” ie (LOP) Well this next quote…puts an end to that theory as well...“If three zeros were lifted from the IQD, this means the IQD becomes stronger 1000 times in terms of value.” This in itself is all we need to be assured of our investment. But the good Dr. [Bakri] gives us the dagger in the LOPster heart with this gem of an example…“For example, a pack of cigarettes that was selling for 1000 dinar would be only 1 dinar. If it was a conversion like that, if the three zeros were lifted from the previous currency, this means the old 1000 dinars will buy 1000 packs of cigarettes instead of 1.”    [post 2 of 3...stay tuned!]

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy    There are many reports lately suggesting that an agreement on key reforms has been struck. If Maliki advocates strict adherence to these reforms, then we may see a National Meeting where the Iraq List is in attendance.  Allawi has made it clear that unless parts of the Erbil agreement are implemented they will continue to boycott any attempt at a National Conference, just as they did last time. So, the fact that they are coming back to the table and moving away from questioning the Prime Minister is a great sign that there truly is a deal in the works.  [post 1 of 2...stay tuned!]

8-8-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   We do not have to worry about how many dinar are in circulation.  The Iraqi dinar will be used as a foreign currency reserve.  The only dinar that Iraq has to worry about are those that are inside the borders of Iraq and that will just be traded in for the new notes.  I don't think it will come in at a dollar or less, I think they will come out at a reasonable rate to make it attractive for Iraqis to trade in their dinars otherwise they will not have confidence in it.  I think that no matter what it comes in at, it will go up.  I personally think it will come in at a good number.  This is a brilliant economy to be invested in with money!!

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana  No RV yet - I don't care who said people were cashing in over where, what bank screens are flashing numbers in the back room, or who's janitor overheard Maliki texting Shabibi about $3.86... it didn't happen yet...with that out of the way (sorry to let anyone down!) we are still looking at a couple of important events and opportunities in the very near future, BUT NOT UNTIL after RamadanUntil Ramadan is over (August 18-19) nobody will be cashing in...the good news is that right now we are nearing the end of this month-long holiday and from the looks of it - things are coming along VERY nicely and...YES, I believe it has a chance to happen this year. Exactly when? Who knows. Definitely after Ramadan is over, after that it's open season on the RV Geese. 

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru L.J.  We are seeing cohesion and unity – they are making efforts for reform…I thought we would see withdrawal of confidence before we saw reform honestly…I didn’t think they would be able to bridge the gap.  The language we are hearing in the last couple of days has been really pointing toward...an agreement between them to where they could move forward...I am excited about what I am hearing...the fact that Allawi is open to meetings and Maliki is meeting with the powers and Maliki pushing for Mutlag to come back…Mutlag stepped in and has some extra powers and he’s utilizing them...trying to work out the Oil & Gas Law…everything we see is about working the crisis out and that gives us all reason to be encouraged.  .

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru Mike   CBI went to Parliament and threw down a letter and said we are going forward with the deletion of 3 zeroes project…Parliament accepted that Letter.  I think it was a brilliant play on Shabibi’s side – they said maybe you need to come and talk to us and explain it a little bit more because there are still some who don’t understand….he said sure he would be glad to do that.

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru Doc  We continue to be amazed that a few sites are trying to resurrect the $14 initial exchange rate or at least the $3+ range.  They continue to argue Shabibi said this when he said he wanted the dinar to be the strongest currency in the ME.  Unfortunately this ignores the macroeconomics of currency reform all together.  When Shabibi makes this statement he has never referred to this as the initial RV rate but as the ultimate goal with a 3+ year horizon.  He knows he needs much more oil exports, a diversified economy and most importantly a stable GOI to get there.  He also knows the infrastructure is not there currently to support those valuations.  If we know this then be assured Shabibi is many steps ahead of us.    [post 3 of 4...stay tuned!]

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Now here is where we learn what Iraq is really doing. Despite all the articles, misdirection, and confusion with terminology this quote tells us exactly what is happening…This is absolutely the most direct and powerful statement we have heard. This is not an opinion, but a factual statement…"the present authorities have decided to change the Iraqi currency to a new currency”.  Now this also tells us that they are NOT deleting the zeros off the notes. And it tells us that “collecting the notes” is what is happening to reduce the money supply.    [post 1 of 3...stay tuned!]

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru Breitling   Kaperoni is absolutely right, the dinar will be an exotic currency at first & will be controlled, but it won't stay like that forever, they have talked about becoming free market economy.  Yes, they can justify at coming in around just below a buck, so that is my range 6 cents - 10 cents, to up to a buck.  Will they get above that?  Absolutely they will.  And that's up to the CBI.   That's why I'm in this investment, I didn't get in for just a few pennies.  I haven't seen any math that changes that.

8-8-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG  This is not a lottery ticket,  you purchased money, a currency. This is a currency of a country, a foreign currency, money!  As soon as it becomes an internationally tradable currency it will increase in value.  Iraq is the number one ranked hottest economy in the world right now, this is from the World Business News.  They are mega wealthy in natural resourses, gold, natural gas, etc.  It's impossible for them to operate long term under this pre-programmed rate.

DINARES GURUS UPDATE, 8 AUGUST

8-8-2012 Tony (PTR): The biggest countries pushing it (i.e., China, USA) are the same countries stopping it. They are not going to do it and watch it all fall apart. Things are being done to secure it right now to prevent money from getting into the hands of terrorists, imo. It is not January, it is not going to be December; it’s not going to be that far. I’m expecting something real soon.

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   Now here is where we learn what Iraq is really doing. Despite all the articles, misdirection, and confusion with terminology this quote tells us exactly what is happening…This is absolutely the most direct and powerful statement we have heard. This is not an opinion, but a factual statement…"the present authorities have decided to change the Iraqi currency to a new currency”.  Now this also tells us that they are NOT deleting the zeros off the notes. And it tells us that “collecting the notes” is what is happening to reduce the money supply.

 Now this quote is simply amazing.  “This does not affect the value of the dinar so far but it opens the dinar to the free currency market such as against the dollar, etc.”   It is telling us that the value of the old dinar (3 zero notes) is not effected. Clearly, this is what we want.   Some may want to interpret this saying “yes the value does not change and the exchange rate also stays the same,” ie (LOP) Well this next quote…puts an end to that theory as well...“If three zeros were lifted from the IQD, this means the IQD becomes stronger 1000 times in terms of value.” This in itself is all we need to be assured of our investment. But the good Dr. [Bakri] gives us the dagger in the LOPster heart with this gem of an example…“For example, a pack of cigarettes that was selling for 1000 dinar would be only 1 dinar. If it was a conversion like that, if the three zeros were lifted from the previous currency, this means the old 1000 dinars will buy 1000 packs of cigarettes instead of 1.” 


8-8-2012 Poppy3: I got a great call last evening and the rumors on the streets of Baghdad are saying the RV is very close and people are said to be preparing to return from kuwait and other regions back to their homes in Iraq. They left for humatarian reasons. Lack of money, health care, etc. Those with the means to leave and work elsewhere are now talking and planning to return very soon. This is great news because they have intel we are not privy to. The professional people like DR's, engineers, lawyers, etc., they had the means to leave and also have inside connections to gather information you and I could not get from the inside of the GOI in Bagdad. I am very encouraged that political progress seems to be moving fast to completion and the public responding in this way definitely shows what BGG and I have been reporting is in fact taking place. Once the politics are in line, our blessing should fall in our laps before we even know it.


8-8-2012 SWFloridaGuy: There are many reports lately suggesting that an agreement on key reforms has been struck. If Maliki advocates strict adherence to these reforms, then we may see a National Meeting where the Iraq List is in attendance.  Allawi has made it clear that unless parts of the Erbil agreement are implemented they will continue to boycott any attempt at a National Conference, just as they did last time.  So, the fact that they are coming back to the table and moving away from questioning the Prime Minister is a great sign that there truly is a deal in the works. We are seeing not only from Maliki's camp but also from his opposition that they are maneuvering toward reaching (or already have) a consensus on implementing a reform proposition. Of course until we see this actually happen, history has taught us to remain skeptical but the recent tone of the GOI certainly leads me to believe they are at least trying to strike a deal. The stability of the GOI is undoubtedly an appurtenant component to any currency reform project the CBI may be working on.  So, if true, this is great news for anyone investing in Iraq and something we should all keep an eye on.


 8-8-2012  Newshound Guru Doc  We continue to be amazed that a few sites are trying to resurrect the $14 initial exchange rate or at least the $3+ range.  They continue to argue Shabibi said this when he said he wanted the dinar to be the strongest currency in the ME.  Unfortunately this ignores the macroeconomics of currency reform all together.  When Shabibi makes this statement he has never referred to this as the initial RV rate but as the ultimate goal with a 3+ year horizon.  He knows he needs much more oil exports, a diversified economy and most importantly a stable GOI to get there.  He also knows the infrastructure is not there currently to support those valuations.  If we know this then be assured Shabibi is many steps ahead of us.


8-8-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana  No RV yet - I don't care who said people were cashing in over where, what bank screens are flashing numbers in the back room, or who's janitor overheard Maliki texting Shabibi about $3.86... it didn't happen yet...with that out of the way (sorry to let anyone down!) we are still looking at a couple of important events and opportunities in the very near future, BUT NOT UNTIL after Ramadan. Until Ramadan is over (August 18-19) nobody will be cashing in...the good news is that right now we are nearing the end of this month-long holiday and from the looks of it - things are coming along VERY nicely and...YES, I believe it has a chance to happen this year. Exactly when? Who knows. Definitely after Ramadan is over, after that it's open season on the RV Geese.

New Banknotes Expected Next Year Despite Warnings from Economists , 8 august


New Banknotes Expected Next Year Despite Warnings from Economists

08/08/2012
ERBIL, Kurdistan Region — New Iraqi banknotes are expected to hit the market next year, but economists are warning that now is not the time to change currency due to the weakness of local production and the country’s political situation.
Najiba Najib, a member of the financial committee in Iraqi Parliament, said the new currency would be in circulation next year, with three zeros omitted from the denominations. The new currency will be used alongside older banknotes for three years before the older notes are completely withdrawn.
Mazhar Salih, deputy governor of the Iraqi central bank, said, “We are determined to change the Iraqi currency because the biggest banknote in Iraq is 25,000 dinars which is the equivalent of $21. This has forced Iraqi merchants to resort to U.S. dollars. Besides omitting the zeros from the currency, we will redefine the Iraqi currency and have banknotes larger than 25,000.”
Faysal Ali, vice president of the Kurdistan Economic Forum, does not believe the situation in Iraq is healthy enough for a change of currency. “The political situation in Iraq is very unstable and it is economically weak.”
“Therefore, it is not possible to change the currency now because in order to do so we would need more than a trillion banknotes and coins. Exchanging new banknotes with older ones being used by citizens will greatly harm the economy,” added Ali.
Generally, people need time to adapt to a new currency. Some people in Iraq are still counting money in terms of the older currency — Swiss dinars – that was changed a few years ago.
Ali described in more detail some of the problems that could occur while people adjust to new banknotes. “It is a perfect time for merchants to play with the prices of goods as they wish and make unlawful gains,” he said.
The value and strength of any currency depends on the power of domestic productivity. According to Ayub Anwar Simaqayi, an economics lecturer at Salahaddin University in Erbil,
Iraq is not a productive country.
“It depends entirely on oil which it exports for U.S. dollars. So, if they change the currency of Iraq and the price of oil goes up, it will have no impact on the value of Iraqi currency. But, if the oil prices go down, the currency of Iraq will lose value as well,” Simaqayi said.
During the British mandate of Iraq after the First World War, the official currency of Iraq was the Indian rupee. When the country became independent in 1932, it made its own currency, called dinars [locally known as Swiss dinars for their print in Switzerland]. After the invasion of Kuwait by Saddam in 1991 and the subsequent economic sanction by the United Nations Security Council the Iraqi government started printing its own money known in Kurdistan as “fake” or “prints” in the Kurdistan Region.
As the Baath regime collapsed and coalition forces occupied Iraq in 2003, Iraq modified the dinar—by removing Saddam Hussein’s pictures—and printed new banknotes known as the “Bremer” by locals, named after coalition governor of Iraq Paul Bremer. This is the currency is still in circulation in Iraq.
The financial committee has presented seven different banknotes to the Iraqi central bank which range from 5 dinars to 200 dinars and include coins from 50 fils to 2 dinars coins.
Najeeb said that three Kurdish icons are featured on the new currency: the waterfall of Geli Eli Beg, displaced Fayli Kurds and a woman farmer. The notes will contain Kurdish, Arabic and English script.
http://bit.ly/OMplGc

GURU L.J., BREITLING, PHOENIX & 4APROFIT POSTS, 8 AUGUST

8-8-2012  Newshound Guru L.J.  We are seeing cohesion and unity – they are making efforts for reform…I thought we would see withdrawal of confidence before we saw reform honestly…I didn’t think they would be able to bridge the gap.  The language we are hearing in the last couple of days has been really pointing toward...an agreement between them to where they could move forward...I am excited about what I am hearing...the fact that Allawi is open to meetings and Maliki is meeting with the powers and Maliki pushing for Mutlag to come back…Mutlag stepped in and has some extra powers and he’s utilizing them...trying to work out the Oil & Gas Law…everything we see is about working the crisis out and that gives us all reason to be encouraged.

8-8-2012 Breitling: Anyone who doubts this is missing out on the best opportunity they'll ever see!!  Kaperoni is absolutely right, the IQD will be an exotic currency at first & will be controlled, but it won't stay like that forever, they have talked about becoming free market economy. The financial summit coming up with Iraq does mean something, it's very important but Ali is just going there as a sponsor.  Anyone can become a sponsor.  Iraq can justify at coming in around just below a buck, so that is my range 6 cents - 10 cents, to up to a buck.  Will they get above that?  Absolutely they will, and that's up to the CBI.  That's why I'm in this investment. I didn't get in for just a few pennies.  I haven't seen any math that changes that. Iraq can justify a RV near the USD.  I could care less what any of these Lopsters think. I think Iraq can justify a RV just less than a buck initially and then most definitely rise over time.

8-8-2012 Phoenix3333: The CBI informed the House of Representatives officially its readiness to implement the project to delete the zeros. "The House of Representatives received a formal letter from the CBI containing details of the project to delete the three zeros from the currency and calls for its application early next year, saying there is no objection large by the House of Representatives on the implementation of the project that the country is still not fit to replace the national currency. The CBI sent a letter to the Committees of Finance and economic development in the House of Representatives expressed its readiness to implement the project to delete the three zeros from the currency over the next year and contains a detailed explanation of the project and the stages of implementation for the purpose of discussion in the House of Representatives and a ceiling timetable for its implementation."

8-8-2012 4aprofit: (Response to Fox News report on IQD) Why have some had up to, and over appoximately 3x the gains, from holding Dinars long-term, while everything for the most part in the U.S. has TANKED? When they can answer this one, SOME of us may listen to them and heed their warnings, but the PROOF is in the pudding!. On another note, the Dinar's final bell hasn't been rung as per the FINALITY of this thing, so why warn some of us, because we have already made better gains from this than most of the stuff that the media and so-called expert financial guru's of the estlabishment played up, as always being good, rock-solid, bullet-proof, etc., while most of it TANKED!  I think that many of us will keep taking the OPPOSITE advice!. ON ANOTHER NOTE: IF IT TANKS AS PER THE DINAR, THEN SO BE IT, AS WILL PROBABLY EVERYTHING ELSE.. AS AT LEAST WE ARE BETTING ON THE WINNING HORSE.  AT LEAST WE KNOW IRAQ HAS OIL, GOLD, ETC."B A C K I N G." WHAT HAS THE U.S. GOT? WHO IS WARNING US ABOUT IT? WHY WORRY OVER SOMETHING THAT HASN'T MATERIALIZED YET, BUT HAS HAD A GOOD LONG TERM PATTERN SO FAR? WHERE IS MEDIA ON THE WORLD RECORD SETTING MONETARY ADVANCES BEING MADE IN IRAQ? WHERE WERE THEY IN ADVANCE OF BEAR STEARNS, LEAHMAN BROTHERS, WORLDCOM & ENRON'S COLLAPSE?

Parliament members object to timing on the delete the zeros project; CBI will meet with committee in coming days to clarify stages, 8 august


Parliament members object to timing on the delete the zeros project; CBI will meet with committee in coming days to clarify stages

On: Wednesday 8/8/2012 6:27
said a member of the Committee of Economy and Investment Attorney Nora Albjara, that the House of Representatives received a formal letter from the Central Bank containing details of the project to delete the three zeroes from the currency and calls for its application early next year, saying there is no objection large by the House of Representatives on the implementation of the project that the country has initializer is still to replace the national currency.
The Albjara in a press statement that the Central Bank of Iraq sent a letter to the Committees of Finance and economic development in the House of Representatives expressed its readiness to implement the project to delete the zeros of the three currency over the next year and contains a detailed explanation of the project and the stages of implementation for the purpose of discussion in the House of Representatives and the time limit for its application.
She added: Most members of the House of Representatives rejected the application of the project in the next year being a big project and needs to be enough time for discussion and study, as well as they see that Iraq is still not ready to prepare fully for the implementation of this project and fear that casts a negative impact on the national economy and the local currency.
It continued: that the parliamentary Economic Committee will hold a meeting in the coming days to discuss the project and which may be called the Governor of the Central Bank and hosted by the House of Representatives to clarify the application of paragraphs of the stages of the project and the possibility of readiness.
http://bit.ly/NEAgQw

Central Bank calling for the application to delete the zeros early next year, 8 august


Central Bank calling for the application to delete the zeros early next year

08.08.2012 0:00
according to a member of the Committee of Economy and Investment Attorney Nora Albjara, that the House of Representatives received a formal letter from the Central Bank containing details of the project to delete the three zeroes from the currency and calls for its application early next year, saying there is no objection large by the House of Representatives on the implementation of the project that the country is still prepared to replace the national currency.
said Albjara, on Tuesday, “The Central Bank of Iraq sent a letter to the Committees of Finance and economic development in the House of Representatives expressed its readiness to implement the project to delete the three zeroes from the currency over the next year and contains a detailed explanation of the project and the stages of implementation for the purpose of discussion in the House of Representatives and determine the timeframe for its implementation, “indicating that” most members of the House of Representatives rejected the application of the project in the next year being a big project and needs to be enough time for discussion and study, as well as they see that Iraq is still not ready to prepare fully for the implementation of the project and the fear that casts a negative impact on the national economy and the local currency. “
and added that “the Economic Commission representative will hold a meeting in the coming days to discuss the project and may be from which to call the Governor of the Central Bank and hosted by the House of Representatives to clarify paragraphs stages of project implementation and the possibility of readiness.”
The Central Bank of Iraq announced on 29 September that year 2013 will see the deletion of zeros and replacement of the currency, which warned him, officials and economists because of the presence of mafias currency is preparing to rig the trillions of Iraqi dinars to replace them in the light of the planned changes.
has called for the prime minister’s central bank to wait a project delete the three zeroes from the local currency, certain that a large project and need adequate time to apply it.
http://bit.ly/ORFD0M