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Saturday, August 4, 2012

HENRY * AUSTIN POWERS FOR PM POSTS, 4 AUGUST

8-4-2012 Henry: For all of you that buy into the bank report, let me say this common sense should tell you that it does not take 2 years for a bank to prepare for something they already do on a daily basis (exchange currencies) the banks in the business of making money not projecting or directing the revaluation of a FOREIGN Country... Will not happen... They will know just before you do (not days) think about this, the very institution that you and I will use to exchange dinar, has fore knowledge. They would be to busy cashing in their on institutional trillions to cash in your millions. So who would benefit?Iraq has will always have complete control over this event...period. Some of you have accepted the fact that a country that gave nothing in this process other the purchase of US debt fill dictate to those that gave Billions in cash and drops of blood... No never. Anyone that has ever followed my statements can rewind and find that I told you from the beginning that you giving up and selling your dinar back has always been a desired result of all the pumpers in this environment. They have to keep you bought in to their info supply lines. I think it would be wise to test the uniqueness of the info against the vast amount of free info sources available to you on a daily basis. Ramadan will not bring an RV and it's not due to the spiritual holiday, it's due to the planned time of release, that's not upon us as of yet. Please step back and breathe, and take a week break your sanity will thank you. I'll be releasing a prerecorded call in the near future post Ramadan. God Bless America


8-4-2012 Austin-Powers-For-PM : Many new dinarians are confused on how everything fits together both in Iraq and in the world. Let me put together a scenario that will be easy to understand.  I’d like to introduce Christine and Barry.  They are a married pair of Chicago lawyers who went to D.C. to take on new careers.  Christine took a prestigious banking job, and Barry snagged a great government job in a big White House over on Pennsylvania Avenue.  However, Christine has a big problem.  Her oldest son, “Europe,” has developed a really bad spending problem as he still wants to party like it’s 1999, but has maxed out all of his credit cards.  Her husband isn’t helping at all as he has started to develop is own bad spending habits. She’s tried to get a pair of her banker friends, Ben and Mario, to loan Europe some more money, but they’ve flat out told her no because Europe’s own children, especially Greece, Italy, and Spain, turned out to be spoiled brats and want their Dad to keep giving them money. But Christine has a solution.  You see, back in 2003 the guy who used tohave Barry’s job, George, bought this huge, beautiful, but horribly run-down mansion over on Iraq Court.  Lo and behold when George left his job in 2009 he deeded the mansion to Barry.  Barry and Christine discovered that George had been in the process of remodeling this house, and the project was well under way.  Christine realized quickly that if she could get the mansion sufficiently remodeled, she could get it appraised, and then get a HUGE home equity line of credit to bail out her son and maybe even pay off a few bills that Barry has racked up.  
 The general contractor on the remodeling project, MrShabibi, (Better known as “Shabs”) is considered the finest there is, and he also has lived in the mansion on Iraq Court. He’s made great progress, but he’s got one major problem.  His foreman, Mr. Maliki, is competent, but is also a self-serving jerk that can’t keep pace with the building plan that Shabs has put together.  Mr Maliki also hangs out with the thugs over at the Iran Bar and Grill after work, and they’ve been known to get really drunk and vandalize the mansion while the security guard sleeps.  It also doesn’t help that the house over on the next street, Syria Avenue, just burnt down and is now an eyesore. Christine is starting to get panicky as Europe is missing credit card payments and all of his savings will be gone within 30 to 60days.  She keeps calling Shabs every day asking when the remodeling project will be complete enough to get the appraiser out there so they can get the home equity line of credit approved.  Shabs keeps telling her as soon as he can either fire or demote Mr. Maliki and find a new foreman, the project will move lighting quick and this can get done. Barry’s getting anxious as he wants to keep his job and not be fired,and he’d like to have that line of credit also. When will Christine be able to call in the appraisers?  Will Shabs be able to get the job done?  Will Maliki finally be fired?  Will Barry be fired?  Will Europe and his kids get bailed out, or will they declare bankruptcy?  STAYTUNED!!

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 4 AUGUST

8-4-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   THE SIGIR REPORT REFERRED TO THAT COME FROM PEEPS, AGAIN THAT HAS ZERO TO DO WITH THE DINAR RATE...DOESNT COME FROM CBI WHICH WILL RELEASE THE RATE THEY HAVE APPROVED FROM THE IMF AND THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF...ALSO, NO ONE , NO COUNTRY, OR ANY OUTSIDE SOURCE HAS SQUAT TO DO WITH IRAQ'S MONEY AND MANY THINK O [OBAMA] IS THE HOLD UP. OH PLEASE, HE COULDN'T HOLD UP MY JOCK STRAP [POPPY3, YOU'RE MAKING ME BLUSH].  ALL HIM AND VP BIDEN CAN DO IS ASK AND OR SUGGEST AND THEY BETTER NOT TO THAT WITH ANY THREAT TIED TO IT.


8-4-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   "Sadr renewed a call for project-confidence: a promise to my partners, that if they got (124) votes, I’ll be a complement to 164." This is big news!! The opposition isn’t nearly as dead as everyone is thinking. It’s there, alive and well. If Maliki doesn’t get things rolling along shortly – they will wind up “interrogating” him in Parliament and much like the support shown for their “term limits” law (something like 200 MP’s out of 235 attending that day) they will enact their own version of term limits.

8-4-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy   In September of last year, I spoke with a lady that was telling me she was the CEO of the corporation that manufactured 509 ATM machines and they set them up throughout Iraq, some were not connected to the banking systems at that time, but the ones in the Bagdad area that were connected were loaded with the lower denoms.  The others were to be loaded when they were wired up. That answered the question for me...the lowerer denoms are there.

8-4-2012  Intel Guru Blaino  intel has been drifting in all DAY...documents and additional paperwork ought to be caught up on monday.  [What about Rates showing in major banks?]   heard it 3 places, banker bill was able to refute IT... i have heard some very exciting stuff this afternoon [Friday].

8-4-2012  Newshound Guru Kaperoni  The dinar that was sold outside of Iraq may never go back to Iraq.  As we cash out, it will go into a liquidity pool and go into a central bank reserve.  That's the plan that will prop up the economy of the world currencies & world banks.  The dinar will rise in time & will help the economies around the world.

8-4-2012 Newshound/Intel Guru BGG  I am 99% sure the lower denoms are sitting in the CBI just like Shabibi said yesterday [Thursday].

8-4-2012  Intel Guru Soonerfan62   EVERYTHING IS GREAT AND ON TRACKOUR BLESSING WILL COME SOON. PLEASE HANG IN THERE.

8-4-2012  Intel Guru BWM   LOTS OF NEWS COMING OUT...everything is good...still trying to sort out the details but things are fitting together at least in the information flow.

POPPY POST, 4 AUGUST


[poppy3] THE SIGIR REPORT REFERED TO THAT COME FROM PEEPS AGAIN THAT HAS ZERO TO DO WITH THE DINAR RATE THEY ARE JUST LIKE ALL THE PRATICE SCREEN RATES THAT ARE SEEN FROM TIME TO TIME AND PEOPLE GET ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE ABOUT..

DOESNT COME FROM CBI WHICH WILL RELEASE THE RATE THEY HAVE APROOVED FROM THE IMF AND THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF WHEN ALSO.. NO ONE , NO COUNTRY, OR ANY OUTSIDE SOURCE HAS SQUAT TO DO WITH IRAQ'S MONEY AND MANY THINK O IS THE HOLD UP (OH PLEASE) HE COULDN'T HOLD UP MY JOCK STRAP ALL HIM AND vp biDEN CAN DO IS ASK AND OR SUGGEST AND THEY BETTER NOT TO THAT WITH ANY THREAT TIED TO IT.
  if o WAS ABLE HE WOULD HAVE DONE THIS 3 TO 6 MONTHS AGO SO THE UNEMPLOYMENT AND SPENDING WOULD HAVE IMPROOVED BY NOW AND HE COULD GO INTO THE ELECTION STRUTTING HIS STUFF AND THE ROMNEY BUNCH WOULD HAVE THEIR TALES BETWEEN THEIR LEGGS... NOW EVERYONE LISTENING TO ALL THE GUESSES AND SAYING I WILL SETTLE FOR THIS OR THAT BETTER GET OFF A DINAR SITE AND GO SET FOR A FEW HOURS AND READ THEIR BIBLE AND READ WHERE POPPY3

[poppy3] GOD WANT THEM TO PROSPER BECAUSE HE NEVER TOLD THEM TO JUST SETTLE FOR ANYTHING HE SAID HE WILL PROPER WHAT YOU PUT YOUR HANDS TO .. HE WANTS OTHER TO WANT WHAT YOU HAVE AND LIVE LIKE YOU LIVE.. POPPY3

 [poppy3] HE ALSO NEVER GAVE ANY OF US A SPIRIT OF FEAR YOU LEARND THAT FROM SOMEONE ELSE... I DEEM YOU A WINNER IN THIS WITH ME AND I CAN ASSUE YOU I WILL BE AND AM A WINNER BECAUSE I FOLLOW HIM.

THEY PRONOUNCED MY SON DEAD THREE TIME OVER TWO MONTHS AND WE PRAYED AND WE WON .. PRAYERS WHERE ANSWERED RIGHT IN FROM OF DOCTORS DOCUMENTED. NOW STAND STRONG AND DON'T SETTLE THE RATE WILL BE WHAT THE DR SAID IT WILL BE... POPPY3

[poppy3] WHEN EVERONE OF YOU CAME INTO THIS WORLD YOU HAD JUST TWO TRAITS PERIOD... CRYING AND SUCKING THATS IT FROM THAT FORWARD YOU HAVE LEARNED YOUR BEHAVIOR GOOD AND BAD. START CHANGING THE BAD AND LETS GET OR BLESSING AND SET UP TO BE A BLESSING TO OTHERS FOR YEARS TO COME. POPPY3

[poppy3] OK GOING TO TAKE A NAP BBL TONIGHT -----       IF EVERYONE HASN'T JUST SETTLED FOR .86          POPPY3

MICHINGANDER CHAT, 4 AUGUST


Michigander0131 articles and chat 8/4/12 1:45 p.m. eastern

[michigander0131] Saturday 4 August 2012 Exchange Commission on economy: a large project, the Central Bank may not execute without reference to the House of representatives Agencies- charged economy and Investment Committee member of National Alliance MP Salman al-Musawi, the Central Bank to override the powers of Deputies and Ministers with regard to the replacement of local currency.Al-Musawi said in a press statement:

"when meeting with Central Bank Governor and his Deputy found that the draft does not delete zeros from the currency, but replacing the entire national currency with change their symbols and format and enter the Kurdish language, 
The CBI has announced that it has finalized plans to remove three zeros from the Iraqi currency in order to revalue it. 

LINK

[michigander0131] but replacing the entire national currency //very exciting part of the article

[michigander0131] and we know that they already have the blessing from parliament from back in june

[michigander0131] Parliament and Finance committee support revalue of Iraqi Dinar Posted: June 25, 2012 Tags: Central Bank Iraq, Council of Representatives of Iraq, Currency, exchange rate, Finance Committee, Iraq, Iraq Stock Exchange, Iraqi dinar ERBIL, June 25 (AKnews) – The Iraqi Parliament and the Finance Committee support the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI)’s efforts to revalue of the Iraqi Dinar through the removal of three zeros from the currency.

http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/2/314130/

[michigander0131] boy -o- boy are they beginning to talk

[Agent 007] michigander0131 yes – thanks

[michigander0131] Date: Saturday 04/08/2012 10:50:40 Baghdad (news) .. According to financial expert Maytham and coffee, that the stock market reflects the activity of the national economy, when its index rising it indicates the strength of the economy falling while evidence of his weakness, noting that there were many variables control the economic growth in the country. LINK

[michigander0131] and its now starting to affect the stock exchange in the country//one way to fix this problem

[michigander0131] Agent 007 your welcome

[michigander0131] Saturday 4 August 2012 Agencies- Search Member State law, calling them full movie with the World Bank representative in Iraq Maria Helen, views on the work of the World Bank's strategy for Iraq and support for programme development, Iraq and guidelines and the importance of cooperation between the Iraqi Government and the World Bank to serve the public interest

LINK

[michigander0131] hmmm world bank tellin goi to get there act together so they can help the people

[michigander0131] Ali Salman - 04/08/2012 PM - Economic / Buratha News It is expected that Iraq has a budget of $ 108 billion. Has identified the Ministry of Planning and Budget planning for next year by $ 108 billion. The Minister of Planning Ali Shukri, "The Ministry has started the preparation of the planning budget for 2013 which will be worth the projected $ 108 billion."

LINK

  [michigander0131] interesting they are talking billions instead of trillions for budget next year

[michigander0131] 04 August, 2012 03:57:00 Font size: Called on the government of Iraq, Kuwait on Saturday to take serious steps to remove Iraq from Chapter VII. He said government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh said Iraq began several steps and we expect similar moves from Kuwait to end this chapter and the start of new relationships based on respect for sovereignty and the promotion of trade. Louay al-Rubaie

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  [michigander0131] IMF extends loan to Iraq in February 2013 04/08/2012 JD / Baghdad / .. International Monetary Fund announced on his arrival at an agreement with Iraq which the loan was extended from seven months to February 23, 2013 to the Iraqi government can implement a range of measures in the exchange rate regime in the country.

LINK

[michigander0131] the last sentence of this article says it all/// Iraqi government can implement a range of measures in the exchange rate regime in the country.

[Agent 007] range of measures - that is good

[michigander0131] so giving them till feb to rv

[michigander0131] exchange rate woo hooo

[Agent 007] michigander0131 so are you now saying you think the RV will not happen until Feb. 2013?

[Agent 007] or just that they have been given an extension and that is the far out date to get it accomplished?

[michigander0131] Agent 007 yes IMF is hoping that they will have it all done by then/thats why they extended the loan payment till feb 23 2013

[Agent 007] michigander0131 thanks

[michigander0131] IMO anytime from sept 1st on

[Agent 007] I am kinda hoping for Aug 4 or 5  

[michigander0131] haha

[Agent 007] I am a day-to-day kinda girl

[michigander0131] thats ok alot of peeps do that too

 [michigander0131] its a way to stay grounded

[Agent 007] michigander0131 I just am one that looks forward to each day and pray that it is THAT day

[michigander0131] right  ] its just my opinion /ill start getting excited sept1st /but thats me!

[Agent 007] michigander0131 cool

[michigander0131] Haider Ali Jawad - 04/08/2012 Vote in the House of Representatives in its session today to pay $ 300 million to Kuwait Airways in addition to the first reading of the law of the media and complete the discussion of amending the Law Commission to lift the number of members of the Commission from 9 to 15 members.

LINK

[michigander0131] that should make kuwait happy

[michigander0131] Saturday, August 4, 2012 10:40 Baghdadiya News / .. accused U.S. President Barack Obama to the implementation of the Islamic Bank Corporation deal millions of dollars for the benefit of Iranian banks listed on the blacklist.

The British Telegraph newspaper that U.S. President Barack Obama has accused the Islamic Bank Corporation that he had carried out transactions of millions of dollars for the benefit of Iranian banks that were included on the blacklist because of the nuclear program.

Obama said, "We will expose any financial institution regardless of where you are and that allows the Iranian regime to get at the entrance of the global financial system."

The White House also announced the expansion of economic sanctions against Iran's petrochemical products they buy or make any "material support" to the National Iranian Oil Company and the Central Bank of Iran. Ended / 21

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[michigander0131] Haider Ali Jawad - 04/08/2012 Survived for the Iraqi List MP Hamid al-Mutlaq of the attempted assassination bomb targeted his motorcade Panevjaraboh in the area of Victory and Peace Commission to spend the Abu Ghraib west of Baghdad. Mutlaq said he and as he returned from Anbar province and on the road / Abu Ghraib / and at a distance of 100 meters from an army checkpoint, detonated an explosive device on his car. He explained that the explosion that wounded two members of the protection and causing major damage in the car.

LINK

[michigander0131] one guess who might of been behind this one

PHOENIX POST, 4 AUGUST

8-4-2012 Phoenix3333: "Committee on Economics: a major project to replace the currency is not entitled to the CBI carried out without reference to the House of Representatives. The CBI to waive the powers of the House and Minister for replacing the local currency. When the Economic Commission meeting with CBI governor and his deputy, it became clear that the currency project not delete the zeros of all but replaced the national currency entirely. Implementation of the project in the coming year, saying he needed enough time to apply to begin with the support of economic sectors and then applied to avoid the country's economic problems may occur when you implement it.The CBI's (29 September 2011), that the year (2013) will delete the zeros and switch the currency."

DINAR CHATTER, 4 AUGUST


laurelei: Great quote of the day: When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it. –Henry Ford

[DINARHOPES] Precious i do think we are very close

[Precious] let's hope hon

[DINARHOPES] Precious the bank i work for we have something called the intranet within the bank and we can access about 75 countries and the only one under maintenance is iraq

[BIGREDDOG] DINARHOPES thats interesting

[DINARHOPES] BIGREDDOG i thought so to thats why i think we are close

[BIGREDDOG] DINARHOPES i agree. i think there are a lot of things going on that will bring this thing to an end.

[DINARHOPES] BIGREDDOG yes and there is more going on than we know

[DINARHOPES] BIGREDDOG i am going to check again on monday when i go back
[Precious] dinarhopes how nice they are under maitenence lol

DINARHOPES] Precious i work for a very large bank and we own 70% of dar es saalem iraqs biggest bank

[childofgod] Dreamer I believe everything is done - articles are only cementing it - letting people know what is about to occur

Stash] IF it was over and done.....I would not be sitting here right now

[Stitch] Stash timing????

[Stash] Stitch maybe

[childofgod] Stash I think when they say "its over and done" they are talking about the setup - Why they havent pushed the button and when ????

Dreamer] I guess the word "done" has a whole different meaning in Dinarland... or I missed the 3rd grade class teaching us the meaning of the word "done". Lol

[Stitch] Dreamer the is "done", "well done" and "over done" :superlachen:

[bouv] Stitch as in 'stick a fork in it done'? lol

[Stash] childofgod if they are waiting on me....they can go ahead and RV this thing.

[childofgod] But in the end, we will WIN!!

[Stitch] bouv yep, and I think we are about to that point!! :superlachen:

[bouv] childofgod That is right on!! :givemefive:

[bouv] Stitch I never give up! Never have, never will! lol

[bouv] childofgod we will march right on to the finish line!

[childofgod] We are all here for a reason - We are part of the Master Plan and we should be honored to be a part of it!

[Stitch] bouv seems like someone keeps moving th finish line, but determination and perseverance will win in the end!!

[PiratesMom] You can’t stop time, no matter how hard you try. So instead of wasting the time you have left worrying, spend it creating happy memories that are timeless. Dwelling in any negative (the opposite of the Word) simply contributes power. Whatever you focus on you magnify! Worrying is a form of worship,

[PiratesMom] it becomes your idol....watch your thoughts. As a man thinks so is he.....Trusting God in all things creates a faith like a mustard seed, moves your mountains...life becomes so much easier......wrong affirmations will also manifest, by not balancing the Word. #Focus #Trust #Rest #Re-alignment

Precious] [10:54:35 pm] Target: [Blaino] intel has been drifting in all DAY.... But i am not convinced of much of it YET.... : Blaino] documents and additional paperwork ought to be caught up on monday .

 [tfdaniel1] Blaino What about Rates showing in major banks?

[Blaino] tfdaniel1 heard it 3 places, bankerbill was able to refute IT....

[Precious] [HisBlessed] Blaino so Banker Bill said that they rates were not showing??

 Blaino] HisBlessed yeah, he was in the center and was able to get me the RATES.... No changes .

[Blaino] people, i know we're close..  i have heard some very exciting stuff this afternoon, i'll see if i can get a harder place to stand ... This stuff is awfully loose!

[HisBlessed] Blaino so we are just still playing the "waiting game" ? Some days it feels that the waiting game never ends.

[Blaino] HisBlessed well, we are good at waiting! Lol lots of practice!

8-3-2012  Checkmate I honestly believe that everything has been in place for a long time, too long. For it to be "done" for so long, something, someone is holding it up. A lot are saying is it going to happen? They are now talking about it in the news, Obama, Clinton, Shabibi, Maliki, many are talking about what is going on. There are serious situations happening globally. They really need to figure out how they are going to accomplish it. We are really close to this being over...they are really getting ready to pull the trigger on this.

8-3-2012  Gary it is in the system and it will be triggered...we do no know the specific time or the day, not even the peole in Iraq. This is a very large historical event...it will be well worth it when this is over with.

8-3-2012 Tony Things are happening, there were decisions made last week that popped some things to happen. The UN is meeting today that is going to pop some things to happen. The banks had meetings yesterday and the day before yesterday, they were excited, hoping this is the day! They are being told to be prepared today. We are still hearing everything is in place, Iraq has everything in place, they know who the 3 ministers are, all is done. They are just waiting on what day to make the announcement. This is coming to an end.

BGG & DINARUPDATE, 4 AUGUST


[DOUBLE B] MP Hamid al-Mutlaq escape from an assassination attempt resulted in the injury of two of his companions, west of Baghdad

[DOUBLE B] Which Mutlaq is our Mutlaq ? Saleh Mutlaq ?

[BGG] DOUBLE B - figures.  

[BGG] That's a developing storyline with Maliki lately.

[BGG] give them everything they want - then shoot'em.

[BGG] he did that with a number of the military officers just recently.

[BGG] gave them their jobs back and then first two that showed up to work were "mysteriously assasinated" by men with "silencers" and they escaped the authorities...(because they WERE THE AUTHORITIES!! ).

[BGG] The blog is up for the day... www.dinarupdates.com/blog

[BGG] Gave Mutlaq his job back - sent him to Turkey to handle that little piece of business (maybe got word the Mutlaq double crossed him) and then sent in his regular "hit squad" (aka "the boys").
[BGG] problem solved (because Maliki is a "problem solver" according to Washington)....now if we can just find that pesky Al-Hashemi – Hmmmmmmmmm

[DOUBLE B] BAGHDAD (Iba) ... Revealed Deputy Prime Minister for Services Affairs Saleh al-Mutlaq for efforts to pass a law of amnesty in the House of Representatives before the next Eid al-Fitr.

[DOUBLE B] Eid al-Fitr ???

[DOUBLE B] Translation please !  

 Eid al fitr is the last day of ramadan i think

[DOUBLE B] Maybe they got confused about which one they wanted to blow up.

[BGG] That was the same guy.

[DOUBLE B] I don't think it is, because: Strongly condemned the targeting of the Iraqi coalition member of the House of Representatives Hamid al-Mutlaq, who was his motorcade this morning to detonate an explosive device in Abu Ghraib.

[DOUBLE B] member of the House of Representatives Hamid al-Mutlaq :::: Deputy Prime Minister for Services Affairs Saleh al-Mutlaq

[DOUBLE B] but I know better than to argue with " DA BOSS " because he is WAY smarter than me !

[DOUBLE B] So, in essance, his name should be Hamid Saleh al-Mutlaq.  

[BGG] Same guy... https://www.google.com/search?q=Hamid+al-Mutlaq&hl=en&rlz=1C2LAVA_enUS336&biw=1152&bih=745&prmd=imvnso&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=szEdUMPCNoyY8gT1jIHoAQ&sqi=2&ved=0CFwQsAQ#q=Hamid+al-Mutlaq&hl=en&sa=X&rlz=1C2LAVA_enUS336&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&fp=1&biw=1226&bih=441

[BGG] the BGG facial recognition software just kicked in...it's our guy...

[BGG] which means Maliki really is the _ _ _ _ _ _ _ - we think him to be.

[BGG] Psssttt - you could also add a "Walid" to the front of that if you want to make him sound tougher       [BGG] very manly.

[DOUBLE B]    Well, they tried to kill his hiney this morning !!!

[DOUBLE B] How much was the bounty on Bin Laden, $25 MILLION, right ?

[DOUBLE B] So, on Maliki ??? and he isn't that tough to find !

[Sam] DOUBLE B whose hiney mutlaq or maliki

[Sam] and yes 25 m for bin laden

INTEL4U CHAT, 4 AUGUST


[gretco] Morning Stitch - were do you think we stand for the weekend?

[dckb75] From what I read on recaps we are in a great window for the RV to happen. Did anybody else get any more out of the news?

[Stitch] gretco evrything looks extremely promising, just depends on what would be the most advantageous timing as to a weekend or a workday for the banks. Hard to say.

[captaincaveman] I'm not usually here on the weekends but I feel like this weekend is special.

[Stitch] captaincaveman it does feel like this is a special weekend....

[bamanana] It's not going to be easy for the banks no matter what time they release it, but they will have MILLIONS or BILLIONS of new $ in their banks! Looks like they'd just go for it! LOL

[Dreamer] this hold up seems very political. Many feel this is being held up due the Us elections

[bamanana] Dreamer I agree

[Stitch] Dreamer gm I agree, it does seem to have a political feel about it, though I think we are about past the politics now....
[bamanana] Anything this huge that affects the world has to be political

DRAKEFORTRUTH] Elections have nothing to do with it, if it would R V now, the monies going into the market would not show up on economic reports for 2 qtrs

[diverdown] DRAKEFORTRUTH Yea but the NEws would be showing all the people buying new house and cars. There is suppose to be over 3 million Dinar holders, that will make the news when we start buying

[bamanana] DRAKEFORTRUTH I understand the timing.... I already know who I'm voting for so that particular timing won't affect me! :)

[Stitch] DRAKEFORTRUTH an excellent point!! Although I would consider more money for funding various campaigns being in play as well.

[Stitch] DRAKEFORTRUTH seems time is running out for saving the world economy. They must act soon!!

[Dreamer] DRAKEFORTRUTH I really do feel this is a political mess on who wants to get the credit. Very discouraging when politics get involved.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] we all all reaching for reasons, it will happen when they decide, and nobody will know when that is

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] The whole thought or opinion of the dinar has to go to save the world is a huge opinion, It is the currency of a country that needs it to be a country, the whole story of the dinar R V was meant to save the world is I believe a made up reaching situation

[steveg] We are given the whole Good/Evil argument - if we believe that is the battle than Friday big rally and announcement by the ECB would appear to indicate Evil is winning since Germany will help with the bonds (bailout)

[Stitch] DRAKEFORTRUTH I agree about Iraq, however there seems little doubt as to the impact that will be made as world currencies are realigned.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] stitch - yes it is a impact, put was not the reason why it is happening and is not going to r v for that reason

[Stitch] DRAKEFORTRUTH however, you are much more knowledgeable than I and I bow to your opinion....

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] Again a group of people reaching for reasons why it should happen

[Dreamer] DRAKEFORTRUTH everything about this whole IQD is speculation with lots of opinions and theories. Very similar to the WGS/PP programs about saving the world and etc. IMO, this IQD is the currency of Iraq. So I do believe there are still things needed from Iraq also.

[steveg] Drakefortruth agree...

[redsnowbird] It may be political from the sense that if the revaluation waits longer, then no party will be able to take the credit....because any change will not effect economy for 1-2 years.... then it will start to show.... think of this.... with your money, how fast can you start opening a business, expand your business, or hire employees.... it will take some time.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] simple thing, we went to war with Iraq, oil controls the world, countries seen the possiblilities there, countries decide to invest there for its resources, knowing the benefit it has, and control of that region, and for that to happen they need a currency that is worth something so they can grow as a country

[bryan1972] We have to remember that "WE" dont suppose to be in this. IMO They (who ever they are) want us to give up and sell out!! I believe this is a waiting game! And We need to keep the faith and be steadfast

[Dreamer] redsnowbird agreed. I think that is the timeline where this may be headed towards. Right around election time so no party can really take credit.

[redsnowbird] IMO, the wait is due to economic indicators where all the markets need to be falling before all the govts. agree do a reset... like a few days ago... but they want the conditions to be failing before this happens.... which looks like between now and September/October according to news.

[steveg] DRAKEFORTRUTH I also feel that if we are waiting for all these components to fall in line like we are told this would never happen. Friday’s events are a clear indication.

[TruBlue] just curious and haven't heard....was the post earlier this week by Tony about Iraq TV debunked?

 [redsnowbird] TruBlue No....it was confirmed from several different intel gatherers not just PTR.... however, IMO, Iraq is important, but other govts. have to agree on when the reset actually happens since so many countries currencies are involved....

TruBlue] redsnowbird Thanks. Just seems odd to me that if the PM of Iraq said something that important about their currency on TV that it would show up again somewhere. Here's to hope!

[Dreamer] steveg what were the events on Friday that had a clear indication?

[steveg] Dreamer ECB bond (bailout for EU) with Germany approval, market up 230+

[ [bryan1972] DRAKEFORTRUTH I agree, I believe intel is slow because people are tired of being wrong

[redsnowbird] TruBlue What is also important, is Secretary Clinton, and others in the financial news are talking about global reset of currencies.... that is even bigger!

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] All I know that sources I had in totally differant states and totally with no connections said a month ago that Sept was the key month

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] done before or start of it-which is only 3 weeks away

[redsnowbird] DRAKEFORTRUTH Could it also be that everyone, us and intel gatherers, learn more as we travel on this ride.... Dan with PTR was talking yesterday, that they really felt last year was it.... then that learned so much more information regarding global reset and banking laws had to be done as well.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] redsnowbird - last year the banks were not negotiating with anybody, NOW they are communicating with group leaders, think it is a little differant story then last year

[cruiser] DRAKEFORTRUTH Why is that, Becasue Sept. is generaly a bad month for the stock markets.

DRAKEFORTRUTH] cruiser - its not about the stock markets, unless you agree with somebodies opinion that it is

[redsnowbird] cruiser Per Kaperoni, his theory is this is going to be an international Central Bank currency, tradeable among countries, not necessarily at banks... and in order for the Central Banks to have time to build their reserves and purchase IQD, they needed more time before 1/1/13 which is the drop dead

[cruiser] DRAKEFORTRUTH No you are correct, but how are they going to have have reset, if there are no indicators. Are they just going to go, Sept. 15. Everyone in the world, we are going to reset currencies, markets and everything else involved. No. they can never do it that way. That causes panic.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] your leaders have so many times explained what is holding it up, what more can be said, there is disagreements with circles of people and power over control, if you what to use their words, good vs evil, what ever it is so many factions of people have to come together to get it completed

[redsnowbird] Drakefortruth That is true as well....

[redsnowbird] cruiser I think it is the panic that is the key!... If markets fall or crash, the public will be panicked... then wa la! ...we will reset the currencies to this new system and save the day..... or at the least, help stop the panic!

[cruiser] redsnowbird they have one. it is called the GCC. Of the 6 members 4 uses the same currency. Iraq is supposed to join with them. Their goal is to have all, in the group, us the same currecny.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] issues of how it will be released, when it will be released, how the monies will be done to cover it, taxes, etc so many things have to be agreed upon with several parties involved

[cruiser] redsnowbird If u think panic is the key, we will not see this till after the election. do u agree?

[redsnowbird] cruiser And IMO, that is why everyone is looking at why has this not gone? Everything is done and ready by banks, Iraq, agreements, and they don't understand the holdup....so maybe it isn't a person/country that is the hold up.... it is the perfect storm that has to happen...

[steveg] redsnowbird but a big part of that perfect storm was everted Friday with Germany agreeing to the bond sale.

[Dreamer] steveg what does Germany and the bond sale have to do with Iraq and the currency of Iraq?

[steveg] Dreamer Not Iraq but if you agree with the argument about a crisis required to let this go than a lot.

[redsnowbird] steveg Yes....but look at bond sales....they work for about a week or so.... then investors stop buying them again....This has happened over and over since the first of the year....I think it is only a termporary stopgap.... we get excited....yeah...countries buying bonds.. markets go up...

[cruiser] steveg Forget U.S . markets. European markets loved it

[steveg] cruiser being exposed is one thing - changing it is another long process.

[redsnowbird] steveg The Street likes anything that causes a rally! lol But remember, when Ireland, Greece, Spain were going down... they bought bonds... and things went well for a little while... then they collapsed again... and each time we go up... then we realize didn't work... we go down.

[cruiser] steveg But the process has started and has been happening for years. Just because it is in the public now, does not indicate a timeline for me.

[steveg] redsnowbird but Germany in agreement makes it a little different.

[steveg] cruiser true but lets remember, anything that involves the gov, ie, regulation, taxes, policy are subject to politics and we all know where that has gotten us.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] and then they are not just going to put it on a platter and tell us when, to many bad groups could take advantage and fund their operations, insider trading all, it will be done as we have been warned after they scare the public that it is not going to happen and then it will happen when we are not ready for it

 [redsnowbird] cruiser I understand some people think the election has weight on when the RV happens... I think before election or after election, doesn't really matter because it is too late already for any party to claim they fixed the economy... and the economy is not an easy fix.... takes years!

 [cruiser] redsnowbird it is actually a complicated process, that has been made more complicated through out. Finally, all of this is near completetion or is completed. Some aspects will take years to complete 100%, but that is not the hold up at all. Look at all of the issues that have occurred or brought out. All of the private banking that has been exposed.

[cruiser] redsnowbird do u think the rv will fix our economy?  I do not

[redsnowbird] cruiser And the hackers as well... and the crooks, and the corruption!

[cruiser] redsnowbird Yes each one of them causing a slow down.

[chillimac] cruiser this big meeting on the n eastern side of usa is over tonight correct?  sat nite

[chillimac] iraq does business on sunday right, we wait for monday morning right

[lileagle] cruiser if I may interject, the way it will help (not fix) is to get our oil companies in Iraq working which will hopefully employ a lot of unemployed people. They can bring their monies back, because, Uncle Sam will tax them. Thus reclaim or have some new found (tax) money.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] This whole thing about resetting the currency and going back to a asset based currency has been talked about for years. The US does not want it and they have control, it will not happen, unless the US will allow it and they are printing money as fast as they can to flood the market,

[redsnowbird] cruiser I think the RV in itself will not fix our economy.... what fixes our economy are several things: easing of monies for businesses, hiring employees, expanding businesses, less govt. interferance, less taxes.... that is what fixes economies...hiring employees, expanding businesses, less govt. interferance, less taxes.... that is what fixes economies...

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] As my close friend who owns several banks, this has been written about for 15 years, but the US is the one that is control and the one that has the military to control what is getting done, and they will not allow that to happen because the US would be bankrupt because at the rate we are printing paper money we have not got the assets to back it

[lileagle] DRAKEFORTRUTH I would tend to agree and at the rate China has been buying our bonds, if we do not watch out, before too long we will be a suburban of china. china is inching its way into our financial banking system by acquiring interests in them.

[TruBlue] Is it at all possible that revaluation of the IQD is an Iraqi issue and that what we hear out of Iraq through articles and such is somewhat on target?

[Dreamer] TruBlue so far the articles have been correct.

[redsnowbird] Read the book "The Currency Wars!" ......explains a lot of what is happening currently.

[cruiser] lileagle So now we haveto go to Iraq for work? That is a long commute for me lol . Seriously, we has to start happening is they need to have this reset occur,so that private industries and public companies, holding onto a ton of cash, will start hiring. The R V will help, becasue some of us will start small businesses. And also do not forget the global economic shift. The U.S will become a monster exporting country.

[buddydog] redsnowbird DRAKEFORTRUTH cruiser Thank you all for a most enlightening discussion!!

[steveg] DRAKEFORTRUTH that is interesting what your friend says - he is obviously in the position to have knowledge; what is his solution?

[TruBlue] Dreamer If you are looking for any tangible evidence, I agree

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] steveg - he called the bank crash on mortgates 1 year before it happened, and he says they should of never been bailed out, and he says that it is going to happen again , and if someithing is not done about it, it could cripple the country

[lileagle] cruiser I think we have seen U.S. private contractors in and out of Iraq already. Just saying with their natural resources and Chevron attempting to strike an oil deal, it only makes sense for U.S. Oil companies to increase their labor force to head over. If the US gives our corp tax breakes they grow and those employees bring their money back stateside and spend.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] steveg - he says let the banks fail , and that is the RESET that is needed to fix things

[lileagle] Uncle sam can tax them, at the wages they will be earning and it will be "found" money for the US to tax.

[steveg] Sometimes I hope it is just in Iraq's hands - I do not know the answer to that but it seems it would be easier to get this done if in just one countries screwed up hands instead of the worlds screwed up hands.

[TruBlue] I wanna say this discussion is awesome! So much better than hearing "i'm excited" and "you have to trust me". Thanks all

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] steveg -fractional banking has been pushed passed its limits, and its going to crash again bad, electronic fake balances can only go so far

[andisgram1] TruBlue Im with you on that!!

[steveg] DRAKEFORTRUTH but how far is that, what are the derivatives’ at $600Tr+ and still no change?

[andisgram1] DRAKEFORTRUTH so what happens in the type of crash thats coming?

[cruiser] DRAKEFORTRUTH Hve you noticed all of the talk about the banks being broken up? That is what has to happen. If the banks fail, what happens. 100 of millions of people lose their money that is in the bank. I know FDIC insures, but that is the solution. That is panic, and that is a revoltuion. If that is what we needed forgot the dinar. we may all be dead.

[lileagle] They key to this rv, is whatever country you are from, is to have your plan to put the money back out on the streets with a sound business plan that will create jobs and/or inject money into our dying economy.

KAPERONI POST, 4 AUGUST

8-4-2012  Newshound Guru Kaperoni  The dinar that was sold outside of Iraq may never go back to Iraq.  As we cash out, it will go into a liquidity pool and go into a central bank reserve.  That's the plan that will prop up the economy of the world currencies & world banks.  The dinar will rise in time & will help the economies around the world.

BLUEDOG CHAT, 4 AUGUST


bluedog 1:22 am cdt 8/4/2012  [1:23:52 AM] toni  (TONI1960): [bluedog] Hello Dinarians

[bluedog] are you waiting for the big hit we are in a HOT PERIOD right NOW this was to be done last june and many times but it has to be the World timing and the World looks Ready but we seem so close with the NEWS and CBI and GOI forget the GOI its a Polka Dance for the World

[bluedog] Breaking News – Mutlaq's crisis ends...............................Maliki sent a request to the Parliament to withdraw the request of the withdrawal of confidence from his deputy, Saleh al-Mutlaq. http://www.ninanews.com/ ··· Q=FMKJMI LINK
  [bluedog] the GOI knows the Authors plan the Marshall Plan and it seems not to go beyond Sept 1st you will see the first move of the Iraqi money
  [bluedog] sure you have seen this but IMPORTANT to our investment ..... Oil exports from the Kurdistan Region will resume in the first week of August, the Ministry of Natural Resources (MNR) announced today, adding that the decision was a confidence-building measure aimed at solving once and for all the ongoing oil and gas issues in Iraq.......................

“This is a goodwill initiative and we sincerely hope that the federal authorities in Iraq respond positively, making all the outstanding payments due to the IOCs and implementing all the measures agreed upon between the KRG and the federal government.” http://pukmedia.co/engli ··· s-by-krg     LINK
[bluedog] revaluations have happened many other times I think 7 other times and if you followed them you will see that this is the BIG ONE

[cjswest] bluedog has all been very positive , i remember terryk   say the oil contracts may be holding this back

[bluedog] cjswest Contracts are at the end of the rope and now they want paid its coming and soon to pay these contracts  with new rate  final rate I think will be seen in 2013 but you will get a nice rate to ponder what you need to do  b4 2013 and real soon

[bluedog] Shabibi said he would watch the economy to adjust a higher rate .......well once they RV the economy will explode it is now so the rate will fly  Kurds turning on the oil is HUGE

[bluedog] Look at what happened today in the World with Euro markets up 6 some % and US up 3 % why economy is very bad right now WHY economy is in the Tank and why a Gobal Reset and why say it could be any Saturday nite and see it on Monday Morn

[bluedog] And on Bloomberg on the 25th of July anytime so rest well and be happy we are anytime or within weeks who knows the exact date but all thing are pointing to an end for us

Member of the economy: the currency to replace a large project is not entitled to the Central Bank carried out without reference to the House of Representatives, 4 august


Member of the economy: the currency to replace a large 

project is not entitled to the Central Bank carried out 

without reference to the House of Representatives

Date: Saturday 04/08/2012 10:04:05
Baghdad (news) .. Accused the Member of the economy and investment MP / National Alliance / Salman al-Moussawi, the central bank to waive the powers of the House and Minister for replacing the local currency.
Moussawi said (of the Agency news): When the meeting of the Economic Commission with the central bank governor and his deputy, it became clear that the currency project is not Delete the zeros of which only, but replace the national currency, the whole with the change of symbols and format and the introduction of the Kurdish language to it, and this is not the work of the Central Bank because it is a large project and touches the Iraqi state in all spectra and doctrines.
He added that the Constitution grants full powers of the Federal Government in the implementation of important projects affecting the citizen as a project to replace the national currency and the need to legislate a new law presented by the Committees of Finance and economic development in the House of Representatives is voting on it and then the federal government to implement it, is not entitled to the Central Bank to make any change in the currency without reference to the House of Representatives.
and warned: the replacement of the currency and delete the three zeros of which during the current period because it would harm the national economy as it is still Rieia dependent on oil, but must figure out how to support the economy of the activation of its different sectors and the private sector and then go to the application of a project to replace the currency after you delete the zeros of the three of them.
ruled out the MP-Musawi: implementation of the project in the year the next, saying he needed enough time to apply to begin with the support of economic sectors and then applied to avoid the country’s economic problems may occur when you implement it.
and declared the Iraqi Central Bank (29 September 2011) that the year 2013 will see the deletion of zeros and switch the currency, which warned officials and economists because of the presence of mafias currency is preparing to rig the trillions of Iraqi dinars to replace them in the light of the planned changes.
and demanded the prime minister’s central bank to wait a project delete the three zeroes from the local currency, saying he was a big project and needs to be enough time to apply, was charged with the Central Bank of governmental bodies to block reform monetary and vowed it was persecuting the interests of the country’s financial risk.
http://bit.ly/MW1dox

Iraq calls for Kuwait to take serious steps to remove Iraq from Chapter VII, 4 august


Iraq calls for Kuwait to take serious steps to remove Iraq from Chapter VII

04/08/2012 01:09
BAGHDAD / Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network – called on the government of Iraq, Kuwait on Saturday to take serious steps to remove Iraq from Chapter VII.
He said government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh’s (Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network) that “Iraq calls for Kuwait to take serious steps to remove Iraq from Chapter VII.”
He added that “Iraq has begun several steps and we expect similar moves from Kuwait to end this chapter and the start of new relationships based on respect for sovereignty and the promotion of trade.”
Iraq’s government announced the difficulty out of Iraq from Chapter VII as a result of the inability of Iraq to end my Archive and missing Kuwaiti.
Iraq has since 1990 with Chapter VII of the Charter of the United Nations imposed after the invasion of Kuwait in August of the same year.
This chapter allows the use of force against Iraq as a threat to international security, in addition to large amounts of frozen assets in the financial world banks to pay compensation to those affected by the invasion of Kuwait.
http://bit.ly/NYEOUR