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Friday, July 27, 2012

INTEL4U CHAT, 27 JULY


[cruiser] raptor22 sananddan24 We just have to sit tight, I know we all want it over, But the end of this movie is here. Now we have to watch and wait, with a little grin on our faces, because we know the ending :)

paradisegirl] cruiser this evening on Bloomberg tv, the pundits were talking about how confident Draghi was about his statements to save the Euro. They kept saying "he must know something we don't", over and over again.

[~healthy3] cruiser so are you saying that we shouldn't expect to hear any news until Sunday?

[cruiser] ~healthy3 We could hear something, but I am not expecting anything til at least Sunday night.
  BigB] cruiser I just came in and missed most of thr conversation. I do not understand how the markets can keep climbing with the economic problems in the EU. Also, as I stated this morning, I find it very hard to believe that Germany is willing to "help out" the EU (like in pay money).

[cruiser] RdRiver All of the Stimulus is a precurser. They are going to be Shoting all of the Ammo they have at this Global economic Problem, fortunatley we as Dinar holders, sre part of this.

9:29 PM [cruiser] BigB Germany is starting to feel the affects. Possible losing the AAA credit raiting. Econmic growth slowdown.

[RdRiver] mbd4049 wellthey did sell shares,,,i get the annual report from wells,,,,and it was in there last year,,about that change

[BigB] cruiser They can't pay for all of the EU can they? I know there are other countries in the EU but Italy, Greece, & Spain are all in trouble and I hear France is not far behind. Thats a lot of money!.

9:31 PM [cruiser] RdRiver All of the Stimulus is a precurser. They are going to be Shoting all of the Ammo they have at this Global economic Problem, fortunatley we as Dinar holders, sre part of this.

faith] cruiser; isn't Germany doing the "bailout" for Greece? or was it Spain?

cruiser] faith BigB That is why we are getting ready to hear about the Euro Bond!!

9:33 PM [cruiser] And why is the Euro Bond important? Becasue Government Bond are going to be Tier 1 Basel III Assets.

9:33 PM [honeybelle] cruiser ok what is Euro Bond?

9:34 PM [cruiser] honeybelle Same thing as a Treasury Bond.

9:35 PM [geterdone] cruiser Is this how the are talking about saving the Euro? I thought it was done.

9:35 PM [honeybelle] cruiser ok now I understand

9:35 PM [dealdoctor] cruiser Explain Euro Bond please.

9:35 PM [RdRiver] cruiser won't the euro fail?

[cruiser] dealdoctor The Euro Bond will be the same as a Treasury Bond.

[dealdoctor] cruiser Got it. From the European Central Bank?

[cruiser] RdRiver Why would it fall? They are going to have countries purchase their debt.

9:35 PM [cruiser] highlander65 There really is not a whole lot to tell. Just watching it all unfold.

9:35 PM [BigB] cruiser Sounds like desperate measures are being taken in an attempt to hold the econ together

9:38 PM [johnnyjunk] cruiser    - do you know what kind of add-ons will make that bloomberg video work on Windows 7 / Explorer?

9:39 PM [cruiser] BigB Well either they (All of the countries) do something or they let the world collapse. Just kind of bleep, that it took 4 years to get us to this point.

9:40 PM [misskitty05] cruiser what is a tier 1 Basel III asset and why is that tier significant?

9:40 PM [BigB] cruiser How long can the band aid hold it back?

9:40 PM [honeybelle] TIME4RVNOW ok that happens to me to but explain what you got the goosebump about sorry missing some part of your posts?

9:40 PM [TIME4RVNOW] as soon as i typed that my i got the cill

9:40 PM [johnnyjunk] bbwantsrv cruiser yeah the link opens but it does not play the vid ... :( thanks!

9:40 PM [RdRiver] Time4rvnow spill the beans

9:41 PM [misskitty05] cruiser what is a tier 1 Basel III asset and why is that tier significant?

9:41 PM [TIME4RVNOW] honeybelle and also thr blumberg tv post from 2 days ago

9:42 PM [Readynow] cruiser do you think they will not let this happen until Middle East problems settle down???

9:42 PM [cruiser] misskitty05 Kind of tricky. Tier 1 assts are AAA rated, meaning very easy to monitize. That is wht the only 2 I know of right now is Gold and the Government Bonds.

9:42 PM [1biz4u] cruiser IYO Do believe they will let the world collaspe before the rate shows?? Thanks

9:43 PM [dealdoctor] cruiser You think Geithner being there with Draghi July 30 is a good window for the RV?

9:43 PM [cruiser] Readynow No way. The Middle East will always have problems.

9:44 PM [cruiser] 1biz4u Never!!!!!

9:44 PM [Readynow] cruiser hoping that's what you would say. Thanks

9:46 PM [cruiser] dealdoctor I think it is very important for those 2 to meet. Notice, NO PRESS only photo opp. There is going to be a lot of disscussing between those 2.

9:46 PM [1biz4u] cruiser Do you believe this next weekend is our last weekend?? Thanks

9:46 PM [cruiser] 1biz4u It better be !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9:47 PM [gretco] Cruiser - did you watch video when it was said he (spain) is trying to buy time until Sept. before doing anything with Euro?

9:47 PM [1biz4u] cruiser thanks

9:47 PM [Remi8] TIME4RVNOW You know, I'm trying to really stay grounded --- we've heard it before and I'm not going to scream until it happens!!!  

9:47 PM [mbd4049] RdRiver what?

9:49 PM [cruiser] Think about this, ECB is talking Euro Bond and the FED meets to discuss, more stimulus (QE3, purchasing Bonds!!!!)

9:49 PM [mbd4049] RdRiver someone said earlier that we had been 'smokied' again,  

9:49 PM [geterdone] RdRiver that would have helped him with the fuel issue then.

9:49 PM [gretco] cruiser - the bloomberg video of today - when about all way through - a expert (with red tie) came in and said spain is trying to buy time - as most of Europe takes off during August and then will do something about Euro - if you have time listen or watch whole video - about 3 min. in.

9:49 PM [Remi8] TIME4RVNOW Nope --- I'm all for that!!!!!

9:51 PM [cruiser] gretco If Europe is taking off, There may not be a Europe to come back to    Notice all of the actvity, with Europe this week. Think they want get this done and take off all of August.

9:51 PM [ken153] cruiser yes the ecb lower there interst rate's and is gonna infuse 1.2 trillion euros

9:51 PM [mbd4049] cruiser that's part of Europe's problem, they ALL close the month of August, what's that about?

9:51 PM [bbwantsrv] cruiser I agree with you. Europe has no choice but to get this done prior to August!

9:51 PM [highlander65] geterdone meaning if we see them announce it -- our baby arrives? asking cruiser

9:52 PM [blueblaze1962] cruiser can I ask you a question?

9:52 PM [gretco] cruiser - OK - just (expert) said they needed 17 votes and they could not get it right now - but what do I know - thank you for all your information.

9:52 PM [blueblaze1962] cruiser If they were to allow the Euro to crash wouldn't that also cause a huge crash in our stock market? I'm just asking, remember I'm a silly blonde and I don't know much so just asking?

9:52 PM [geterdone] highlander65 So they will be releasing it and calling it QE3.

9:52 PM [highlander65] geterdone Well I remember cruiser alluding to it once as such

9:53 PM [cruiser] highlander65 There is going to be some sort of bond purchasing program announced. I still believe QE3, will be the mechanism to start all of the realignment. I could be wrong, since some of it has started, with Europe, but will have to include, somewhere soon , QE3, to casue an instant DV of the dollar.

9:53 PM [mbd4049] What is QE3? just asking

9:53 PM [geterdone] Well the news is talking about getting a solution from Bernanke next week.

9:54 PM [RdRiver] Qe2 was a ship,,,what is three a plane,roflmao

9:54 PM [cruiser] blueblaze1962 If the Euro was to crash, it would be a disaster.

9:54 PM [wheezer2] cruiser i thought it was interesting in reading jonny's post that the international rate would be low(er) than the u.s.rate ... any thoughts

9:55 PM [blueblaze1962] cruiser that's what I thought that's why they can't allow it to occur?

9:55 PM [ken153] cruiser cruiser the head of the ecb already said they gonna do everything they have to do to keep the euro stable ,,, their gonna lower the interest rate and pump 1.2 trillion into the system,,,,

9:55 PM [mbd4049] wheezer2 that means you all will have to become illegal aliens and come across the border  

9:55 PM [spankey] Seems like the PTB want the markets to crash

9:55 PM [cruiser] ken153 They are pumping alot more than that..

9:55 PM [wheezer2] mbd4049    are you thinking i am canadian????

9:56 PM [ken153] well thats what i heard the ecb head say

9:56 PM [blueblaze1962] cruiser like 21 trillion????

9:56 PM [Elaine] wheezer2 ,,,, he is saying canada will be lower

9:56 PM [mbd4049] wheezer2 If not, sorry just sayin'  

9:56 PM [cruiser] wheezer2 I do not know why?

:56 PM [cruiser] blueblaze1962 not that high.

9:56 PM [ken153] cruiser low is in for the euro its going up for the next month and the dollar is coming down for the next month

9:56 PM [TIME4RVNOW] GOT THAT ON MY EMAIL 5:54 PM gemini649: I'm actually    today. I can be so sure because I speak direct with Iraq. The banks may be aware the Iraq plans on Rving one day but they do not have the codes because the "codes" have not been submitted. All that about rates loaded and locked awaiting

9:56 PM [~healthy3] cruiser so the way this is going do you think it will take until Sept. until they get all of this taken care of? just asking

9:56 PM [TIME4RVNOW] release, is NONSENSE. Meetings are happening as we speak. I expect very soon the announcement. I waited for this call and I got it. Now I've shared it. Enjoy your weekend!

9:56 PM [blueblaze1962] cruiser you are an angel

9:57 PM [WCW] cruiser because our s is tied to oil

9:57 PM [honeybelle] cruiser I thought they wanted the markets to crash to get rid of fiat money and bring in asset backed currencies

9:57 PM [wheezer2] mbd4049 no apology necessary ..however many of us texans consider people from outside of texas immigrants  

9:57 PM [Remi8] TIME4RVNOW Who is that from?

9:57 PM [cruiser] please slow down for a second

9:57 PM [wheezer2] cruiser just curious as to why you thought that would be the case

9:58 PM [BigB] wheezer2 Probably because the Dollar is going to devalue - rate must compensate (theory)

9:58 PM [TIME4RVNOW] Remi8 Remi8 i dont get the sender it ease earased

9:58 PM [cruiser] ken153 For it to affect the dollar, it would have to go above $1.30, all by itself. Still alittle bit away.

9:58 PM [WCW] cruiser thats why are rate is going to be higher than anyone elses thanks to GEORGE BUSH

9:58 PM [geterdone] I remember someone explaining that the rate will be different for countries and it is based on what the value of the currency from each country's is.

9:58 PM [TIME4RVNOW] Remi8 Remi8 good source

9:58 PM [blue skies] TIME4RVNOW r u kidding us?

9:58 PM [highlander65] TIME4RVNOW who is the person who sent this to you?

9:58 PM [cruiser] ~healthy3 NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9:59 PM [ken153] yes we're figuring 127 by month end

9:59 PM [cruiser] WCW Who is S?

9:59 PM [ken153] or more but the dollar has already reacted

9:59 PM [TIME4RVNOW] highlander65 blue skies never kidding that was in my EMAIL.... I never say names as requested

9:59 PM [mbd4049] WCW Go GW and Cheney, don't forget . . .

10:00 PM [Satrap] This would be a great time to release the revalue since the olympic opening ceremonies are about to start but I'm thinking maybe its taped? Isn't it the middle of the night in Great Britian?

10:00 PM [wheezer2] TIME4RVNOW sorry, but what did you get in an email?

10:00 PM [blue skies] TIME4RVNOW r u under or over a gag order/

10:01 PM [cruiser] honeybelle The monetary system could never 100% Crash. It would be Kaos. No one wants that. It will be be done very organized and kind of secretly. Remember they did this already with the Treasury Bill and the Fed Dollar.

10:02 PM [ken153] cruiser 100% right

10:02 PM [billuke] Satrap you couldn't find it anywhere on TV, NBC is presenting it now

10:02 PM [cruiser] wheezer2 BigB answered.

10:02 PM [gsp4] Somebody who calls themselves OGou is making sure that is posted on every site. Who is this NEW GuRU?

10:02 PM [honeybelle] cruiser ok tyvm hugs you r wonderful to answer our ?'s

10:02 PM [TIME4RVNOW] i will repost email i GOT... sq allowed me to do so in the PAST... Please .. I am only sharing.. I have no opinion on this.. Thank you

10:03 PM [geterdone] Has anyone heard whether we are expecting the USD to DV at the same time or will that happen shortly thereafter?

0:04 PM [TIME4RVNOW] 5:54 PM gemini649: I'm actually    today. I can be so sure because I speak direct with Iraq. The banks may be aware the Iraq plans on Rving one day but they do not have the codes because the "codes" have not been submitted.

10:05 PM [TIME4RVNOW] been submitted. All that about rates loaded and locked awaiting release, is NONSENSE. Meetings are happening as we speak. I expect very soon the announcement. I waited for this call and I got it. Now I've shared it. Enjoy your weekend!

10:05 PM [chillimac] TIME4RVNOW who is gemni649

10:05 PM [TIME4RVNOW] end

10:05 PM [TIME4RVNOW] chillimac chillimac i HAVE NO idea

10:05 PM [cruiser] BigB I am still trying to grasp how this whole cash in is going to happen. NDA, how much are we allowed t owalk out with, how much do we have to leave in the account for a time period. Just not sure yet.

10:05 PM [BigB] [BigB] cruiser Speaking of US Treasury notes, do you thinnk they will be released at teh time of the RV?

10:06 PM [BigB] cruiser It makes my head hurt when I start thinking of the details

10:07 PM [TIME4RVNOW] it says clear black and white

10:07 PM [Greyhound] In my opinion that has been one of the biggest challenges with this investment........way too many individuals claiming to have the real info that matters.

10:07 PM [cruiser] BigB Yeah. That is why i suggest to bring a lawyer with you. Pay him to deal with all of that, especially the NDA.

10:07 PM [TIME4RVNOW] saturday midnight ANNONSMENT eUROPEAN TIME.... bam bam bam bam

10:08 PM [Serendipity] cruiser I'm willing to learn quickly how to cashin. Just would like to have the oportunity!

10:08 PM [cruiser] There was somone who asked about George Bush, Lostthe question. Please repost and i will try to answer.

10:08 PM [Coffeeone] cruiser I hate lawyers. Now I gotta bring one with me.     

10:08 PM [vic406] TIME4RVNOW i hope he was talking about this weekend to seems to be what he was driving at

10:10 PM [vic406] lets hope with all the intel as of late it would seem we are that on top of it

10:10 PM [RdRiver] Time4rvnow do you know the author of the email friend??? Thanks so much for sharing

10:11 PM [TIME4RVNOW] vic406 vic406 me 2.. Then some of my friends here confused me saying it was just an EXAMPLE.... no ..it was the real THING... I went to listen to it over and over.. He was ceatain about his words

.[BigB] cruiser Speaking of US Treasury notes, do you thinnk they will be released at teh time of the RV?

cruiser] BigB I am still trying to grasp how this whole cash in is going to happen. NDA, how much are we allowed t owalk out with, how much do we have to leave in the account for a time period. Just not sure yet.

BigB] cruiser It starts to make sense. We were instructed to open a NIB accounts to receive our exchange. This is backed by the US Treasury rather than the FED. That make me think that the exchange id the time for the release of the new money. Or in the near future depending on when the Devalue comes.

 [cruiser] Enjoy the night. Stay Grounded (sorry if i seem a little excited :) and Enjoy the weekend. This BETTER BE THE LAST ONE WITHOUT , well you know what lol

KAPERONI & TONY POST, 27 JULY

7-27-2012 Kaperoni: A week with economic progress would best describe events. It appears Iraq is trying to put the reforms on the fast track and implement them at or around the end of 2012.


7-27-2012  Intel Guru Tony   The good news is that we are in a perfect situation. There were meetings Wednesday and decisions were made and agreements signed because of what is going on in the Middle East. What is going on in the Middle East is the only thing holding this up. The banking industry is ready. The world stage [in the Middle East] is changing this weekend and I think that will be the deciding point of if we see this or not. A lot of people are expecting this today and that is why it has been so quiet. China (HSBC) doesn’t own 51% or 15% or even 5% of Wells Fargo bank. Wells Fargo will be a big part of this but they do not decide how, when, or where this is done. The good part is we know the RV has been done for months. 

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 27 JULY

7-27-2012 Newshound Guru Kaperoni   A week with economic progress would best describe events.  It appears Iraq is trying to put the reforms on the fast track and implement them at or around the end of 2012.  

7-27-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG  I do think the “term limits” issue will be handled shortly. Maliki won’t get a third term... They will get this law handled and while the Courts have been “bought and paid for” by Maliki – the mass of support will be so broad they will reverse it at their own peril.  Much like the 200 votes for this law…if Maliki winds up in front of Parliament (for any reason) he’s “PORKED”!! Do not confuse this lull in the action for dissipation. It is not.

7-27-2012  Intel Guru Jonnywg    RATES ARE SET AT IMF/INTERNATIONAL LEVEL AND AGREED UPON BY MANY COUNTRIES INVOLVED.  VND IS A COMPLETED PROJECT BUT IS RELIANT ON THE IQD RELEASE.   I FEEL THAT THE RV IS CLOSE...WE EXPECTED IT BY THE END OF LAST MONTH...BUT THE PTB HAVE A COURSE THAT IS NOT DISCLOSED.  WE ALL FEELTHINGS ARE COMPLETED AND READY TO FINISH UP BUT IT IS CONTINUALLY DELAYED.  I AM TRYING TO GET PRINTABLE DETAILS.

7-27-2012  Newshound Guru Med    I AM WAITING TO SEE IF INFO INCREASES IN AUGUST ON THE PRINTING OF THE SMALLER DENOMS. WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE MOVING ON THE BUDGETS AND THAT IS THE KEY TO ENDING THIS. GOOD OR BAD, THIS WILL BE OVER WITH THE NEXT 4 MONTHS. 

7-27-2012  Intel Guru TerryK     MY UST GAL TALKED TO ME LAST NIGHT AND WAS TELLING ME WE ARE SET TO GO AT ANY TIME.  VND WAS THE PROBLEM AND I GUESS WHAT SHE SAID MAY HAVE HELD THINGS UP.  THIS IS COMPLICATED, SHE SAID THAT ALL 11 CURRENCIES HAVE TO BE READY TO MOVE AT THE SAME TIME.  THIS ALL HAS TO DO WITH CHAPTER 7 FORGIVENESS FROM ALL 10 0THER COUNTRIES.

7-27-2012  Newshound Guru Doc  As for timing we continue to maintain October-ish timing as earliest probable.  Another recent article talked about the budget process starting now.  Shabibi has repeatedly said he wants currency reform to be built into the 2013 budget and not have to implement it in the middle of a financial year.  The fact that the Finance Committee has indicated the start of the 2013 budget process is very encouraging and we speculate it is in response to Shabibi's request.  This is just another data point that gives credence to implementation later this year.  While we wish the blog site rumors of an "at any second" RV were correct, the actual real data suggests later this year.  Continue to look for resolution around Ebril and the seated GOI as precursors.  We report, you decide.  [post 2 of 2]

7-27-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG  Looking very good on the pressure front. Even the US is acting like they are jumping on the “get it done” bandwagon. The reason being Maliki and his gang are “not returning” or remembering their commitments to the US. 

7-27-2012  Newshound Guru Doc  Shabibi made a statement yesterday that we think pretty well sums up the situation.  Said Central Bank Governor Sinan Shabibi that "put the currency early next year is uncertain because of the recent discussions and negotiations with the government." He Shabibi "It would be great in the process of cooperation with the government."  We go back to what we have be postulating for many months now.  The CBI is ready, the GOI is not.  Remember Shabibi had said several weeks ago that January 2013 was when the new currency would be issued.  Our opinion is that he is not backing off that date but is obviously frustrated with the lack of progress on the part of the GOI.  He has been and is pushing every way he can for the GOI to act like a stable functional government.   [post 1 of 2...stay tuned!]

7-27-2012  Intel Guru Arizona Heat   we have information that comes our way...that shows we are moving forward. [what is the waiting about?]  This is just my opinion, the problems surrounding the Iraqi borders [like Syria, Iran, etc.].

7-27-2012  Newshound Guru Med    NOW HERE IS GOOD NEWS,  I READ THAT THE BUDGET FOR 2013 IS BEING ADDRESSED ALREADY.  THIS IS A MAJOR CHANGE FROM PAST PRACTICES.  I BELIEVE THAT THE PARLIAMENTARY FINANCE COMMITTEE IS APPARENTLY ON THE BALL HERE SO THAT THE NEW BUDGET WILL REFLECT THE NEW RATE AND THE NEW CURRENCY AND IT IS NOT A NEW CURRENCY IT IS STILL DINAR, THE SAME AS KUWAIT DID.  THIS PART PARALLELS THEM AND SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND JAN 1 WILL BE THE RATE OF EXCHANGE IF THE FACTS WE HAVE ARE BEING FOLLOWED.   SO FAR NOTHING I HAVE READ MAKES ME THINK OTHERWISE.

7-27-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   The NEWS has been right where we need – it…headed the perfect direction.  The Mandates law being put into Parliament today [Thursday]...that term limits thing is really big news.  Mutlag goes back to work next week.  Al-Hashemi trial postponed until after NC meeting annoucnement.  the reference to an NC meeting this morning.  Allawi in Parliament this morning…(he hasn’t been there in months).  the whole Government being excused tomorrow EXCEPT Parliament – can you say “COVER-UP”???  Mutlag going back to work for the first time in 8 months. That’s not big –  it’s MONUMENTAL.  President Obama “inviting them to pass” and oil and gas law today???   there was a lot of good stuff going on – too much to be a coincidence.  All the above was out in the news today [Thursday]. Can you say “BIG DAY”???

7-27-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    News today has been limited but very encouraging...Had a couple calls today that said they where hearing information the RV should be implimented by the last day of august. I am waiting for the announcement of the NC before I begin to get very excited.   i also heard some ding a ling is trying to say it is going to be a lop...rest assured it will not happen just like the .86 cent nonsense.

7-27-2012  Newshound Guru Med   WE ARE ABOUT ONE MONTH AWAY FROM SEPTEMBER AND THAT MONTH SEEMS TO BE THE KICK OFF FOR THE FINAL PHASE OF THIS VENTURE.   IF WE BELIEVE WHAT IS IN PRINT, THAT IS WHEN THE DINAR WILL BE PRINTED AND THE COINS MINTED. 

JONNY CHAT, 27 JULY


here to clarify the CANADIAN CASH IN............................... no Canadian bank has responded period to our inquiries.............. However several branches have talked to individuals................... As the currency will be international, cash in can also take place at airports and other currency exchanges........................................ there should be no problems at a currency exchange within a bank in CANADA but as they will not make a statement to publish ........who knows..................... other exchanges have stated that they will cash in .................... expect the international rate at a low single digit price all ........................... it is known that BNS and RBC branches have tolerated the IQD questions AND INTERNATIONAL

[musiccitylady] .jonnywg .jonnywg please clarify low single digit price please

[.jonnywg] musiccitylady this is for CANADA

[.jonnywg] RATES IN CANADA AND OTHER INTERNATIONAL LOCATIONS WILL COME OUT LOWER

[.Imagine] .jonnywg Can you please give us a statement of where you feel this is at for the US thank you so much

[.jonnywg] US IS STILL UNDISCLOSED
[pmw1973] individual governments are buying the iqd back they set thier own rate????

[.jonnywg] pmw1973 RATES ARE SET AT IMF/INTERNATIONAL LEVEL AND AGREED UPON BY MANY COUNTRIES INVOLVED

[9 BALL] .jonnywg Do you have any info. on the VND? Thank you for all you do.

[.jonnywg] 9 BALL VND IS A COMPLETED PROJECT BUT IS RELIANT ON THE IQD RELEASE

[schipperke] Why the lower rates

[.jonnywg] schipperke ALWAYS WAS

[justaguy] .jonnywg Will the euro be dismantled and all countries go back to their original currencies based on basil III?

[.jonnywg] justaguy BASIL111 IS ACCOUNTING ...................NOONE REALLY KNOWS ABOUT EUROPE

[mawbell] .jonnywg lower rates--meaning 3+ ???

[.jonnywg] mawbell LOW IS LOW .......U COULD BE RIGHT

[jjmyles] .jonnywg Is Germany cooperating now? Good to talk to you again. Thanks.

[.jonnywg] jjmyles GERMANY IS THE STRENGTH OF THE EURO

 [countryboy] .jonnywg do we expect all of this to happen by the end of this month? thanks

[.jonnywg] countryboy WE EXPECTED IT BY THE END OF LAST MONTH

[tc0043] .jonnywg Was the vnd the final holdup and now the release can happen?

[.jonnywg] tc0043 NO

[hawaii50] .jonnywg: Is there news you can share that we haven't asked?

[.jonnywg] OBVIOUSLY I FEEL THAT THE RV IS CLOSE.................. BUT................... THE PTB HAVE A COURSE THAT IS NOT DISCLOSED........................ WE ALL FEEL THINGS ARE COMPLETED AND READY TO FINISH UP BUT IT IS CONTINUALLY DELAYED.................... I AM TRYING TO GET PRINTABLE DETAILS

[sananddan24] Jonnywg is WF ready?

[.jonnywg] sananddan24 WF IS READY TO ROCK AND ROLL

[nathansmom] .jonnywg I guess we all need to stop thinking this is going to happen every week then?? Sounds like NO ONE really know WHEN but the PTB??

[.jonnywg] nathansmom TRUE ENOUGH74

[catz] johnny, do we have to wait until Tues. for the new policy from Wells Fargo to be released?

[.jonnywg] catz THE NEW POLICY ISSUED IS NOT TO BE EARTH SHATTERING BUT MORE OF POLICY TOWARDS THE CURRENCIES INVOLVED

[.jonnywg] WILL COME BACK A LITTLE LATER AS I AM GETTING SEVERAL INFO CALLS TO RETURN

DINAR CHATTER, 27 JULY


[Papa Bear] We always have a choice between hope and despair - no matter what circumstance we are in.

[Papa Bear] We always have a choice between fear and faith - no matter how bleak things look.

[Papa Bear] And we always have the choice to give and serve - no matter how little we own.

[Papa Bear] I hope everyone chooses a positive attitude today!

[Papa Bear] Hugs to all. I count myself blessed to have been a part of this journey with all you wonderful folks.

[devildogmom] Papa Bear That is so true... No matter how bad things are, if you get up and do something for someone else it feels good and starts a chain reaction of paying it forward.

[dealdoctor] The very slow growth numbers out today will also PRESSURE the Fed and whitehouse to do something. Things are HOT financially worldwide. I watched a video with Putin talking to all of his diplomatic corps called back to Moscow and he also said things are dire and need BIG changes. BRICs are his focus
[dealdoctor] twisted67 we need to look at the CONTEXT worldwide and it is a power struggle and our RV is in the center of the tug of war. As things get worse economically and miltarily the pressure to fix what is clearly broken will increase. Add to that the economic implications of the American drought..

[steveg] If I where a bank and I was sure this was going to happen; I would have dinars holders already coming in during this delay, wait or what ever you want to call it. From an operational point of view it would make sence. I guess they wuld have to be 100% sure the RV was going to happen soon to justify cost. Or maybe they are not allowed to hold dinar.

[da58] devildogmom soonerfan's post the other night got me all excited...

[devildogmom] da58 There was nothing new to report, just waiting for our time love

[Coffeeone] prissynell MeaganandJoe2010 We will have to call the banks and make appointments, at least we will not walk away with vouchers, just might have to wait for the appointment time. .

[dealdoctor] da58 Which one by Soonerfan...all our grassroots intel providers are saying it is all done we just wait for the right time. Was there anything new?

[da58] dealdoctor was on recaps, night before last - one of those ASN types of posts - was awesome...but..anyway, sure sounded like ti was finally gonna happen. Heck, this thing is confusing!

[dealdoctor] da58 I agree with that general view. There is a financial cliff that the entire world is headed for in a fast NASCAR race. Think CRASH. The drivers are in the car too. It is like kids playing Monopoly who see the entire board slipping off the table. Someone will try to catch it.

 [honeybelle] dealdoctor what now Sept or Jan??????????????

[dealdoctor] honeybelle All that is the position of those who read the articles out of Iraq...non of our grassroots providers agree at all...it is a kinda "denominational" difference between groups in Dinarland. I am in the any second now group.

[dealdoctor] Our grassroots intell providers are all on the same page with any second now...dang it BETTER be any second now or we may see the world economy go to the very bottom of the well. Think worldwide depression.

[jetpack] Sry but I got off the ASN train a year ago, however I've been in this 7yrs and I'll say I truly feel rv will happen by nov finally

[dealdoctor] jetpack I respect your opinion and admire your tenacity.

[Sprinkles] jetpack wow interesting thought but the way things are going you could be correct

collie:.About the video  the other day..from Bloomberg..would appreciate your take on it.....

rke: collie yes, i saw that yesterday. if the euro were to break up (and that is a big if) it would have to be in secret over a weekend as they say. there was a detailed plan drawn up recently by an economist that laid out this very scenario. BUT never underestimate the strength of the ideology of the eurocrats. they have a history of staring reality in the face and pursueing their agenda regardless.

[paiaboy] the difference this year from last year it that it is a election year and everything around us is not so good

[musiccitylady] paiaboy I agree with that statement! Completely! I would think our President sure would want to be THE ONE to rescue the USA. But, with each passing day and weeks and months without this occuring, I am worried that this means NOTHING to him at all

Tony: (From PTR call today) We are in a perfect situation. The banks are ready. They are more than ready. The world stage could change significantly over this weekend and will determine whether we see the RV or not. A lot of people are expecting it today. That’s why it has been so quiet.

Big meetings this week and decisions were made. Agreements were signed and new decisions made because of the situation in the Middle East. Just looking at the news something is supposed to happen in the Middle East this weekend.

We know the RV is done and has been done for months. We know last week that they published in the Iraqi newspapers. What the lower denoms are.  I think we are in a good spot tight now. You are not hearing much from Intel Providers because its all done and nothing to say.
 

TERRRYK CHAT, 27 JULY

TerryK 7/27/12 at 1:10 PM

[TERRYK] HELLO PEEPS ANYTHING GOOD GOING ON

[TERRYK] MY UST GAL TALKED TO ME LAST NIGHT AND WAS TELLING ME WE ARE SET TO GO AT ANY TIME

[TERRYK] VND WAS THE PROBLEM AND I GUESS WHAT SHE SAID MAY HAVE HELD THINGS UP

[TERRYK] THIS IS COMPLICATED SHE SAID THAT ALL 11 CURRENCIES HAVE TO BE READY TO MOVE AT THE SAME TIME  THIS ALL HAS TO DO WITH CHAPTER 7 FORGIVENESS   FROM ALL 10 0THER COUNTRIES

 [TERRYK] SO THAT’S WHAT I WAS TOLD LATE LAST NIGHT FOR WHATEVER THAT WAS WORTH

[TERRYK] OK GOT TO GO BACK TO WORK LUNCH IS OVER  GOD BLESS

MED CHAT, 27 JULY

 Med (5:43:08):  WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE MOVING ON THE BUDGETS AND THAT IS THE KEY TO ENDING THIS

    Cheeks: we are close man

    Med:    WE ARE    GOOD OR BAD    THIS WILL BE OVER WITH THE NEXT 4 MONTHS    I AM WAITING TO SEE    IF INFO INCREASES IN AUGUST    ON THE PRINTING    OF THE SMALLER DENOMS    BOY THE IRAQI LIST    AND THE KURDS REALLY BLEW IT    HAD MALIKI ON THE ROPES    AND DIDNT KNOW HOW TO FINISH IT    TALIBANI HAD A HAND IN IT    AND SADR WAS TRUE TO FORM    JUMPED SHIP    AGAIN    WHAT A COWARD

    calldinar: Yeh I couldnt believe how that happened. The guy is slippery Maliki and Sadr  Seems like a lot of the leaders are slippery...Thank goodness not all    Glad I live here in the good ole USA

    Med:    YUP    WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS    I MEAN IT   FOR SURE
    argos: med, a ?
    Med: YES
    argos: I hear them talking about a National Conference, do we know when this is ?

    Med:    NO    IT IS TALK    I AM NOT SURE IT WILL EVER HAPPEN    LIKE I SAID EARLIER   I AM WAITING TO SEE IN AUGUST IF THE NEWS ON THE PRINTING    INCREASES

    argos: thought so   I checked the De La Rue site to see if there was any news on them printing for Iraq but can't see anything. They are based in the UK
    Med: RIGHT

CBI is called into question regarding the new currency introduction early next year, 27 JULY


CBI is called into question regarding the new currency introduction early next year

Published on Fri, July 27
Never doubts about Central Bank put up the new currency beginning next year.
Deputy Central Bank Governor Mohammad Saleh appearance of future news agency reporter today, Friday, that “the study submitted by the Central Bank were virtual is that the new currency is thrown on 1/1/2013, but with changes in the subject and we doubt that this different.”
Saleh said that “Finance Committee questioned why not have launch the new currency in half? But after question specialists and experts in the Central Bank and other specialized institutions, scientist, he could not have replaced currency at this time that this is linked with the annual accounts of each institution, and this can never be so it is unreasonable that the annual accounts with two types of currency “.
The Central Bank of Iraq was announced (September 29, 2011) to 2013 will see the deletion of zeros and the currency switch, noting that current currency formed block big cash worth 30 trillion dinars.
http://bit.ly/MbqQlj

Political differences, problems of neighboring countries behind the fluctuation of the value of the dollar against the dinar, 27 JULY


Political differences, problems of neighboring countries behind the fluctuation of the value of the dollar against the dinar

Said financial expert Mohsen Ali, the presence of internal and external factors control the increase of the exchange rate of U.S. dollar against the Iraqi dinar, saying, that the Central Bank and the Iraqi Stock Exchange does not bear a reason for that.
Ali said in a press statement on Tuesday: The Central Bank is working hard since (2003) to increase the value of the Iraqi dinar against the U.S. dollar and keep its price for a long time, but the exchange rate of U.S. dollar against the dinar a result of internal factors that have occurred recently in the country Kalnsaat the political and the U.S. withdrawal and other factors external is of economic sanctions and international threats to neighboring countries.
He added, can not be to one that carries the responsibility of the cause of high exchange rate of U.S. dollar during the current period, whether the central bank or the Iraqi Stock Exchange, as it occurs in all countries of the world that have passed the same conditions that fought Iraq in the current period.
The Finance Committee, the parliamentary carried the cause of the high value of the dollar against the dinar Iraqi companies registered in the Iraqi market for securities as a result Mtagertha in its share of the dollar that you receive from the bank by selling the currency instead of buying them for goods and cargo. and declining exchange rate of the Iraqi currency in a banner during the past few days against foreign currencies, especially the dollar, raising fears of citizens the continued decline, and attribute some of this decline to the resort’s central bank to implement more stringent measures in the recent past regarding its sales of hard currency, especially the dollar, which has led to a lack of circulation of U.S. currency in the markets and increase demand and therefore high value against the dinar, but some the other believes that the currency’s decline is due mainly to the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq and the growing political divisions that threaten the stability of the country and weaken confidence in national currency
http://bit.ly/MpBaBC

A banking source: Officials running the networks, currency speculators, 27 JULY


A banking source: Officials running the networks, currency speculators

A source bank for “banking operations illegal and legal are managed in secret in the state banks and the eligibility to benefit from government funds and private, which remain for long periods in the banks,” pointing out that “the funds are subject to rates completion of projects and government contracts related to contracts for the purchase of arms for the army.”
The source, who declined to be named, that “these funds amount to about $ 30 billion, as well as government funds are agreed to keep it rigid between stakeholders and between some of the banks to manage the business with a network of currency speculators inside and outside the country,” alluding to “operations buy currencies from the Central Bank of Iraq and to benefit from the profits of selling black market, “saying it was” about $ 3 billion dinars per day across the country. “
The source noted that “the survival of that money in the coffers of banks and generates very profitable rates of interest on the accounts of some parties, personalities and government officials,” according to the source.
http://bit.ly/MKcRCV
Alternate translation:
A bank source: officials manage currency speculators networks
A bank source revealed on “illegal banking operations and illegal clandestine managed in banks and governmental capacity to benefit from Government and private funds that stay for longer periods in banking”, pointing out that “funds are subject to delivery rates and Government contracts for purchasing contracts for the army.”
Source, who declined to be named, said “the money of some 30 billion dollars, as well as Government funds agreed on keeping it rigid between stakeholders and between some banks to manage work with networks of currency speculators inside and outside the country”, noting the “buying currency from the Central Bank of Iraq and take advantage of their profits in the sale of black market,” he said, adding that it “amounts to about 3 billion dinars per day across the country.”
The source pointed out that “the survival of those funds in highly profitable banks cabinets and yield ratios of interest on the accounts of some parties and figures and Government officials,” according to the source.
http://bit.ly/Oi9xhR

BGG POST, 27 JULY

 7-27-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   The NEWS has been right where we need – it…headed the perfect direction.  The Mandates law being put into Parliament today [Thursday]...that term limits thing is really big news.  Mutlag goes back to work next week.  Al-Hashemi trial postponed until after NC meeting annoucnement.  the reference to an NC meeting this morning.  Allawi in Parliament this morning…(he hasn’t been there in months).  the whole Government being excused tomorrow EXCEPT Parliament – can you say “COVER-UP”???  Mutlag going back to work for the first time in 8 months. That’s not big –  it’s MONUMENTAL.  President Obama “inviting them to pass” and oil and gas law today???   there was a lot of good stuff going on – too much to be a coincidence.  All the above was out in the news today [Thursday]. Can you say “BIG DAY”???

UNSC welcomes the progress made by Iraq in the restoration of international stature, 27 JULY


UNSC welcomes the progress made by Iraq in the restoration of international stature

The UN Security Council extend the mandate of the United Nations Mission in Iraq for a period of twelve months, and demanded that Baghdad to continue cooperating with Kuwait to address the outstanding issues between them.
The Council voted on this resolution unanimously expressing its intention to review the mission within a year or less if they made ​​Baghdad a request in this regard, calling on the Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban Ki-moon to submit a report to the Council every four months to explain the progress made ​​in the work of the mission.
The Council welcomed in this context the progress made ​​by Chit towards restoring the international Stature, calling him the important progress.
http://bit.ly/Olv5sw

RUMORS FROM DINARLAND, 27 JULY


Thursday July 26  RECORDED Q and A with Footforward on the Big Call.
(760) 569-7699 169061#

[Papa Bear] I know you folks are filled with questions and frustration. Hang in there and expect the very best

AWN92 Okie's comments are Air Force related. He is basically saying that there is a lot of things happening very fast (MACH 2.2 is over twice the speed of sound). J-4 is JP-4, a type of jet fuel used. He is saying that he does not need a refueling and is down to his last few drops of fuel, which means he is going to have to land soon.

Take this to mean it is very, very, very close and that a lot is happening in these last hours. Once he lands (RV happens) he is not going to need the plane anymore to fly around looking for intel. I hope this helps! [Thanks members, you sent in some VERY "interesting" interpretations!! : ) ]

Jul 27 7:29 AM [BigB] Stitch GM & Happy Friday to all! Now please tell me this is going to be our last weekend looking for the RV.

[Stitch] BigB GM - I am praying it is our last one!! Lol

[Dinara] On HLN I just heard that the Central Banks of the United States and Europe are working on something to stimulate the economy. I wonder what it could be?

[dealdoctor] Dinara Now this mainstream media joins the Bloomberg clip we saw yesterday saying this was the ONLY answer.

[dealdoctor] I saw a video this morning that gave the history of the repeal of Glass-Stegall under Clinton a bill that FDR had put in place to keep commercial and investment banking separate. Time magazine article back then 1999 said this might put the taxpayers at risk if banks failed. Duh!

[dealdoctor] We see so much about the PTB fighting for control of power as pertains to our RV. Now there are voices in London calling for much stricter bank regulations in light of the LIBOR rate fixing. They want Glass-Stegall back. Is it possible that the powerful do not want those controls OR any control?

[dealdoctor] A global reset would certainly put CONTROLS on the international banking industry. Without those controls we will continue to see it all spirial out of CONTROL...

Highhopes. "Like Sands through the hourglass-so pass the Days of our Dinar Lives"...lol

BigB] _We have always had 2 schools of thought in Dinarland. Lop vs non lop, low rate vs high rate, about Iraq vs not just about Iraq, today vs tomorrow, this quarter vs next quarter.

BigB]  For what it is worth, I believe we are close and we really need a diversion to bring this thing in. We have a super one this weekend with the opening of the Olympics. And I don't buy that "stuff" about Germany offering to bail out the EU. They will put their own economy in jeapardy.

[dinardr] I JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE .. ALL THE INTEL WE NEED NOW IS THAT IT IS DONE .. SO ONE SECOND NOTHING .. AND THEN SUDDENLY !! ALL WE NEED IS THAT ONE SECOND TO CHANGE EVERYTHING... HANG ON

daniandquin] my friends, this is currency we are talking about here. CURRENCY. when the IQD revalues, it will be a global revaluation- currencies do not change value in one country and not else where. Let's all be calm and relax. I'm sure that jonny will explain what he meant the next time he is in chat grin

twisted67] I can vouch that I have talked to Canadian bankers and they will be more than willing

[vivrelereve] daniandquin daniandquin I feel JWG was saying he has not had his own confirmation from canada banks and someone needs to fillhim in

[wango1] Dakotaman It is a misunderstanding than Canada will exchange

M64] Dakotamanwango1 wango1 IMO I believe jonnwg is saying that currently the Canada banks won't that is why he said we wait............. I don't think he meant that they won't after RV, again IMO.

[scott24680] I'm guessing the issue with Canada is the high rates that have been negotiated in US dollars may not be available in Canadian dollars, since the US Dollar will devalue post RV and the Canadian dollar should be pretty stable

[Precious] 7-27-2012 BGG The NEWS has been right where we need – it…headed the perfect direction. The Mandates law being put into Parliament today [Thursday]...that term limits thing is really big news. Mutlag goes back to work next week. Al-Hashemi trial postponed until after NC meeting annoucnement. the reference to an NC meeting this morning. Allawi in Parliament this morning…(he hasn’t been there in months). the whole Government being excused tomorrow EXCEPT Parliament – can you say “COVER-UP”???

Mutlag going back to work for the first time in 8 months. That’s not big – it’s MONUMENTAL. President Obama “inviting them to pass” and oil and gas law today??? there was a lot of good stuff going on – too much to be a coincidence. All the above was out in the news today [Thursday]. Can you say “BIG DAY”???

[Precious] tommyk] Well now that Shabibi got his 3 days needed, , and now we are waiting for the Big EVENT coming Friday evening U.S. time. This makes me wonder if they will close the stock exchange due to this EVENT happening Hmmm?

MRP: Katt Think RKE is about to explain other factors besides GDP in the value of a currency (I hope I got that right. :) )

rke: dietcokeandice a currency always has to be converted to another currency, that is what an exchange rate is, how it's value relates to another currency. there are many factors to consider, and GDP is only one-but it is an important factor

oucrazy: rke . . . so, if our GDP is the strongest and the world economy is tied to the USD (demand), then the problem is our worn out printing presses from printing so much fiat currency??!! Lol

rke: oucrazy that's why every other country has to print more money too, to keep the proper prices for imports and demand for exports

dietcokeandice: rke then why is the VND lower the Iraq Dinar due to the ratings

rke: dietcokeandice the media usually doesn't understand these issues or likes QE because it gives temp boost to markets

ke: dietcokeandice both currencies are currently tied to USD at a set rate, our predicted rate i'm guessing is higher for IQD because expected strength of economy and demand for currency will be stronger

dpa820: rke ,wouldn't proper prices would be tied to what the market would bare, wouldn't??? If I buy a hambuger in northcarolina at Mcdonalds its less than a dollar. In the Virgin Islands , its about 2 or 3 dollars.

rke: dpa820 yes prices are set according to market conditions. mcd's in virgin islands will be higher because cost of production is higher due to necessity for imports among other factors

dietcokeandice: rke well on some site they are stating the QE is a good thing because of the revalue will be force to happen for the good of world economy is this true

dietcokeandice: they are saying they have been waiting for Bereke to do this whatever

rke: dietcokeandice that sounds like opinion, one which i don't share. just because the world needs bailing out doesn't mean that iraq has to revalue their currency. but this is my opinion which others obviously don't share.

rke: dietcokeandice my opinion is that i find it hard to imagine that a country does not control its currency. look at greece and spain if you want to see what happens when a country does not control its currency

dpa820: rke ,historically would currencies from war-torn countries revalue higher due to the circumstances of having to re-develop the country???

rke: dpa820 don't know how to answer that, usually countries aren't rebuilt like this. Germany post ww2 might be a good comparison, but i don't know what their currency was like

averysgrampa: rke i agree with you, i think that the world economy could surely use the dinar to help out but its not up to iraq to fix it

rke: averysgrampa exactly, i need someone to buy me a house, but won't happen just because i need it, or think i need it.

dietcokeandice QE is increasing money supply, this always causes inflation. in fact the only cause of inflation is the increase of money supply. they are doing it because they are scared to death of DEFLATION, which was the massive problem in the Great Depression.

MRP: rke What are you looking at to track where we might be in this investment process, specifically?

rke:  i don't know exactly. some news articles seem to indicate later in the year, but it is hard to tell as they are looking at the process of changing monetary policy, money supply and exchange rate all together, while we are only interested in the exchange rate.

rke: MRP i'm not really trying to micro manage or predict an exact date/rate. the news articles do give me an indication of where we are at. but that only tell me we are close. and we all know that.