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Tuesday, July 24, 2012

SOONERFAN CHAT, 24 JULY


GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, IT IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT TO SAY THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT DAY. I AM VERY TIRED TONIGHT AND HAVE TALKED TO EVERYONE THAT I BELIEVE HAS THE BEST INTEL IN THE GAME. I DON'T EVEN THINK I HAVE TO MENTION THEIR NAMES BECAUSE YOU KNOW ALL OF THEM AND THEY ARE EXCITED FOR ALL OF US TONIGHT. PLEASE NO QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MEETING MY FRIEND OKIE WAS REFERRING TO BECAUSE I WILL NOT ANSWER. WAS IT IMPORTANT? … YES. GUYS, IF YOU EVER WANTED ME TO COME ON AND TRY TO KEEP YOU UP TO DATE, PLEASE SLOW DOWN THE BOARD TONIGHT BECAUSE I AM TRULY SPENT. WHAT A DAY, LET'S CHAT NOW FOR A FEW MINUTES BUT UNDERSTAND I WILL BE LIMITED AS TO WHAT I CAN TELL YOU. TRUST ME WHEN I TELL YOU THIS SITE IS BEING MONITORED. WITH THAT SAID, LET’S CHAT FOR A WHILE.

[rnort] Soonerfan62 So are we closer than a splattered bug on a windshield?

[Soonerfan62] rnort YES.

[charps84] Soonerfan62 Do you think we will see August without an RV?

[Soonerfan62] charps84 NO.

[Diverdown] Is the meeting over yet, that okie mentioned earlier?
[Soonerfan62] Diverdown YES.

[tc0043] Soonerfan62 Thanks for coming in, I have only one question, Is Madam Woo    tonight enough to make us RV tomorrow?

[Soonerfan62] tc0043 NO COMMENT.

[wango1] Soonerfan62 Are you as shocked as everyone else that we haven't been given the green light for the bank?     

[Soonerfan62] wango1 NO.

[jmcknight63] Soonerfan, we hear there are tiers and then no tiers.. we hear high rates and then .86 cents.. I feel there are no Tiers, and I feel we will have at least a rate that is better than a buck.. what say you our friend???

[Soonerfan62] jmcknight63 NO TIERS, SAME RATE FOR ALL.

[highlander65] Soonerfan62 I listened to Footforward's call tonight and he said the little guys are getting a better rate than the whales...have you heard anything that would agree or disagree with that?

[Soonerfan62] highlander65 NOT BETTER, NO.

[ram1] Soonerfan62 Are you still thinking double digits?

[Soonerfan62] ram1 YES.

[MtnStar] Soonerfan62 WF the preferred bank?

[Soonerfan62] MtnStar YES.

[jetpack] Soonerfan62 still feel we will finally see RV before mid-August? Thanks and many blessings to you.

[Soonerfan62] jetpack BE REAL.

[carolinah2o~~] Soonerfan62 Is this the last stumbling block we are dealing with today?

[Soonerfan62] carolinah2o~~ NOTHING ELSE IS IN THE WAY.

[MtnStar] Soonerfan62 so what IS the hold up?

[Soonerfan62] MtnStar NOTHING NOW.

[tornado] Soonerfan62 -Has a decision been made in today’s meeting?? Thanks for your time.....

[Soonerfan62] tornado IMO, YES.

[paiaboy] soonerfan62 the very, very,  very important meeting that was today, was the outcome positive from that meeting, the one Okie was referring to?

[Soonerfan62] paiaboy IMO, YES… VERY.

[carolinah2o~~] Soonerfan62 Thank you. Do you think we'll see okie tomorrow?

[Soonerfan62] carolinah2o~~ I WILL.

[TIME4RVNOW] Soonerfan62 what do you think about my new name ITSOVERTONIGHT?

[Soonerfan62] TIME4RVNOW LIKE IT.

[1biz4u] Soonerfan62 You mentioned that this Rate Release wait won’t go into August?? Is that your opinion?? Or your sources say?? Thanks.

[Soonerfan62] 1biz4u I NEVER QUOTE OPINION.

[bigdaddytim] Soonerfan, can I look forward to having lots of egg on my face this time next month?

[Soonerfan62] bigdaddytim YOUR LIFE WILL BE A LOT DIFFERENT THIS TIME NEXT MONTH.

[gretco] soonerfan62 - is the WF bank in Plano still a good bank coming from Twin Creeks?

[Soonerfan62] gretco COULD BE.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] Soonerfan62 , has it been decided if there will be a limited number of days to cash out at group rate, or is that still not decided, or have been communicated?

[Soonerfan62] DRAKEFORTRUTH 7 TO 10 DAYS.

[hawaii50] Soonerfan62 Thank You…  Any news on the VND?

[Soonerfan62] hawaii50 YES.

[dinofan] Soonerfan62 Is the 21 Trillion found in offshore accounts going to be used as smoke for the general public to hide the event?

[Soonerfan62] dinofan NO COMMENT.

[Soonerfan62] GUYS, VND WILL GO WITH IQD, IT’S THAT SIMPLE.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] Soonerfan62 with the new banking laws put into place 3 weeks ago to tax our deposits, which the banks did could not do in the past, has this issue been discussed and will they utilize this new banking rule when we cash out?

[Soonerfan62] DRAKEFORTRUTH DON'T KNOW

[MtnStar] Soonerfan62 is there something more we need to hear?

[Soonerfan62] MtnStar NO.

[hog1] Soonerfan62 : Do the events in Syria have any impact on the timing of the release?

[Soonerfan62] hog1 IMO, NO.

[redeemed] Soonerfan62 ...The closest bank to us is over 100 miles away. Do you recommend we take security with us?

[Soonerfan62] redeemed IT WOULD BE WORTH IT, YES.

[mortoys2u] Soonerfan62 Something was mentioned earlier about there being 12 regional banks to handle the cash outs, is that true?

[Soonerfan62] mortoys2u MORE, I BELIEVE.

[TIME4RVNOW] Soonerfan62 I am glad you said that... I will repost mine... I was thinking YOU IGNORED IT POLITLEY.... I heard VND rate is .03 IYO higher or lower?... Thank you.   

[Soonerfan62] TIME4RVNOW HIGHER.

[cruiser] Soonerfan62 Wife told me she is going to kick me out if the Rv, does not happen this week. I am confused, should I be happy or sad?         

[Soonerfan62] cruiser SHE WILL STAY.

[ampman02] Soonerfan62 IYO, are the guys saying .86 way off base?

[Soonerfan62] ampman02 YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT?

[keiji] Soonerfan62 Is there now anyone in particular trying to stop this event?

[Soonerfan62] keiji NO, EVERYONE WANTS IT.

[highlander65] Soonerfan62 any more RV-less weekends ahead?

[Soonerfan62] highlander65 IMO, NO.  BUT WHAT DO I KNOW?

[meggie55] Soonerfan62 sounds like it’s gonna be a great week?!

[Soonerfan62] meggie55 YEP.

[believer55] Soonerfan62 do we think currency exchange while banks are open in the USA?

[Soonerfan62] believer55 YES.

[believer55] Soonerfan62 if the meetings created a consensus then did that consensus create a timer for this to show?

[Soonerfan62] believer55 THE MEETING WAS HUGE.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] Soonerfan62, will the cash out in the future be at off-bank sites, to not disturb the bank business, or is that not been communicated yet?

[Soonerfan62] DRAKEFORTRUTH APPOINTMENT ONLY…  WILL NOT DISTURB NORMAL BUSINESS.

[blessing] Soonerfan62 Is Okie Excited and ready to dance yet?

[Soonerfan62] blessing YES.

[sananddan24] Soonerfan62 do you have a general idea when this should happen...morning, evening, night? When banks open,  when banks closed?

[Soonerfan62] sananddan24 YES I DO.

[shelley123] Soonerfan62 Thank you for all you & the mods do.  Question:  will the banks have extended hours  that you have heard?

[Soonerfan62] shelley123 YES, THEY WILL.

[seokgrl] Soonerfan62 will the vnd require an appointment?

[Soonerfan62] seokgrl SAME AS IQD.

[ricengravy] Soonerfan62 do you think they will remove M any time soon?

[Soonerfan62] ricengravy DON'T CARE.

[veggielover] Soonerfan62 Why would we need an appointment for the VND if it is already tradable currency?

[Soonerfan62] veggielover YOU FIGURE THAT OUT.

[ricengravy] soonerfan62  sir do you think it will be tied to the British pound or the US dollar?

[GrannieAnnie] ricengravy FOR THE ONES ON THIS SIDE OF THE WORLD, IT WILL BE TIED TO THE USD.  ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD IT WILL BE TIED TO THE GBP.

[Soonerfan62] GUYS PLEASE UNDERSTAND THIS IS FINALLY COMING TO AN END. I WANT TO SAY THAT I AM VERY GLAD THAT I HAVE HAD THE HONOR TO BE A PART OF YOUR LIVES AND I WISH ALL OF YOU THE VERY BEST IN YOUR FUTURES.  THE WAITING FOR YOUR BLESSING IS COMING TO AND END AND I PRAY YOU ARE PLANNING TO PAY IT FORWARD.   I WILL BE AROUND TO HELP YOU IN ANYWAY I CAN. GOODNIGHT ALL, LUV YA AND HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

HAMMERMAN UPDATE, 24 JULY

7-24-2012 Hammerman: Checking on a lot of great stuff. There are 2 articles out today saying national meeting was done on Sunday-Monday. If this is true my intel of 3 weeks ago about the meeting happening 22 23 24 25 at hammerchat.com was spot on but we shall see. One article comes from a leading Iraq agency so pleassssssssse come on the info about this weekend could be true or could be miss-info. Time will tell but yes we are that close. All the bombing in Iraq sure not helping us at all along with all the crap in Syria these things not good at all but other news is goooodddddddddddd. I love it when plan comes together. Let’s just wait and see. Intel has been right about 90% of the time over articles and my average is about 94% so let’s just wait and see. IF INTEL IS TRUE WE SHOULD SEE SOMETHING WORLD WIDE PUBLIC WITHIN 96 HOURS or so.

DOC POST, 24 JULY

7-24-2012 Doc: We were also encouraged by comments directly for Shabibi. He said he did not want to implement currency reform in the middle of a financial year. He has also told the GOI several times he is ready to go. Of course the GOI is not ready and hence all the stall tactics we have seen reported recently. This is also why Shabibi is pushing to have the new currency in place by years end and have the 2013 budget reflective of this change. This is a pretty clear indication Shabibi is targeting this event no latter than years end. He is still trying to engage the GOI and partner with them. However, even his patience can only be so long. He made it perfectly claer that he does not want this delayed past the start of the 2013 financial year

KAPERONI CHAT UPDATE, 24 JULY


[kaperoni] nah, the post was actually someones transcription from a CC i did on July 4th  took that long to make it to the street

 [milndollarbabe] kaperoni ok so splain

 [kaperoni] well, its a bit complicated...but i will try see we all look at the basics like Iraq has a currency- and we hold that currency and that the Central Banks will hold that currency but noone looks at how this all happens its not magic

[kaperoni] There are things that have to occur and as i stated, that in order for Central Banks to hold the dinar as a reserve  as we posted some 10 months ago they have to have a vehicle to obtain it that vehicle is a Equity Fund or ECM  Equity Capital Market which is like a middle man or broker
  [kaperoni] so... lets assume that is the plan and one they have been working on for 11 months     or soo so how does that effect all of us ? well whomever is doing this, must have a plan to aquire our dinar to add it to this Fund

[kaperoni] And if true, it sorta changes all the rules that we thought were so simple like just walking into a bank to cash out or to a dealer

[kaperoni] I am not saying in anyway we wont be able to cash out in fact, just the opposite we will...just that plan may be different that we thought that we may have to go to a special place or location etc.

[kaperoni] from what i been hearing, the CBI has a part of this they want the d they want the dinar "centrally validated meaning they want to hire a firm to make sure what is turned in is legit

[kaperoni] So much to think about in weeks to come as this plays out this also plays into how it is sold once collected that it will be sold by this broker or Equity trader to central banks so in other words "institutionally" and not a Forex currency as some thought questions?

[lln65] kaperoni are they preparing cash out locations in us?

[yada] So,,would the banks take on the role to valadate or are they not equipped?

[kaperoni] lln, i think so yes

[lln65] kaperoni ty

[kaperoni] yada, good question...I have been told that they do not want to validate the dinar...that they do not want to take the risk.  it also plays into the CBI

[lln65] kaperoni will they be honoring the cbi rate?

[yada] underderstandablely so,,,

[lln65] lln65 okay dumb ?

[kaperoni] and wanting a central validation

chattels] kaperoni sounds like it is a meanns of controlling the costs of collecting our dinar which to me means getting it back for less than " market conditions " might otherwise dictate ?

[kaperoni] lln, no idea

[kaperoni] chattels, well actually i think the opposite...if the central banks buy/sell the dinar...that will drive the value up.

[yada] or opportunity for out government to control the amounts cashed in for the tax purposes,,

[lln65] kaperoni is this a theory or fact? Sorry if I missed that part..

[chattels] kaperoni meaning we get less of a return on our money

[kaperoni] lln, nothing is fact until it happens. But based on what we know with articles over the past few years, and this information...it appears to relate and fit.

[chattels] kaperoni sorry my k]last comment was intended to further expl original thought, not being argumentativein m

[kaperoni] all good

[tsm] kaperoni : Why have the banks "seemingly been looking for the RV and working on bank packages?

[kaperoni] my only recommendation to everyone is to validate your dinar now by checking security features yourself and using a blacklight

[satrib] I would assume whoever is given this job will have offices in major cities through out the country

[kaperoni] that way you know what you have before any central validation

[kaperoni] satrib, true and i agree

[kaperoni] tsm, i dont believe that

 [tsm] kaperoni : Then there is a lot of "liars" out there..   

[CoolSpot] kaperoni So CBI is looking to appoint clearing houses, and those I think would be banks that have a relationship with CBI in Iraq? Is that why we see major banks looking to establsh themselves in Iraq?

[kaperoni] cool maybe.

[kaperoni] i dont know for sure on that i just know that the Equity Fund is good news for us

[satrib] if this is true...why does Dinar Corp think they will be offering cash out?

[kaperoni] because it creates a "market" for the dinar

[yada] so,,even if the banks are in the validation process or not,,the cash in process may take a day or so,,,depending on the volume of customers in said branch at that time

[kaperoni] satrib, i think many of the dinar dealers may be surprised

[kaperoni] yada, this information is not intended in anyway to cause concern over cashout

[yada] then I will use your own words "

[yada] All good!

[kaperoni] in fact, if you think about it...the dinar has to have value for us to play in this game

[tampadinar] kaperoni so are you saying the idea that the dinar would end up at the UST is false?

[kaperoni] tampadinar not at all...i am sure they will hold some but the UST is not a currency trader

[tampadinar] kaperoni but not "most"?

[faithdinar] kaperoni did you feel last year at this time the same as you do now that things are imminent? Year b4 that as well? What you are saying makes sense and things sound great but they always have sounded great.

 [kaperoni] therefore, there needs to be a market maker for the dinar who creates the opportunities for these central banks to hold the dinar as a reserve currency

[mimi22497] so are you anticipating that if we bring dinar to a bank, they would be sending it away to be "cleared" before we would get cash deposited? Am I understanding that correctly?

[kaperoni] faith lol...well this is a bit of a cr*pshoot

[yada] kaperoni    \  we will be paid all the same

[kaperoni] mimi it could go two ways...1. they do as you say. or 2. they simply say they are not cashing dinar

[mimi22497] ok - thanks

[CoolSpot] kaperoni If the banks cashed out thorugh a seperate unit that would offer other services this would keep a tighter control in the area of security, than if dealers cashed out.

[yada] with milliions of new assets,,they will find a way

[tsm] kaperoni : What about all those who have already cashed in?.....   

[lln65] kaperoni CAN we TRUST this CBI plan?

[kaperoni] tsm   

[satrib] actually could be better this way....we wouldn't have to deal with a bank we don't necessarily want to deal with as far as an acct, etc

[kaperoni] lln, yes   here is a bit of news...to go with the plan

[lln65] kaperoni okay thats all I wanna know

[lln65] kaperoni ty

[kaperoni] if this happens as i said, the CBI will price the dinar

[tampadinar] so will there be many CBIs around the world that would participate?

[kaperoni] in essence it will be a managed float

[kaperoni] tampa all central banks can buy the dinar once it is available in this fund as I understand it

[tampadinar] interesting

[kaperoni] so this plan will raise the value of the dinar up  i dont know how fast

[yada] money, money,,mo money,,

[tampadinar] but you still feel it should come out near $1

[kaperoni] but certainly that is good news for those who might hold some

[satrib] seems to me it would keep banks from charging ridiculous fees ?

[kaperoni] tampa yes

kaperoni] but certainly that is good news for those who might hold some

[satrib] seems to me it would keep banks from charging ridiculous fees ?

[kaperoni] tampa yes

[CoolSpot] kaperoni seems that CBI would have established agents in various countries around the world. Some of those agents could be bankers. That way CBI controls the price of the dinar.

[kaperoni] cool, exactly

[kaperoni] the CBI will maintain price control

[faithdinar] kaperoni will it happen this year based on you research?

[kaperoni] and can price it based on demand of these banks

[kaperoni] yes  faith

[CoolSpot] kaperoni Got it   

[yada] CoolSpot those agents have to get past security checks,,,,around the world,,,lo

[yada]   

[tampadinar] will the dinar eventually get back to Iraq or do all CBIs just coordinate their holdings with each other

[kaperoni] tampa, dont think so  foreign currency reserves  holding a strong dinar will help these countries

[CoolSpot] yada for sure

[kaperoni] and in doing so, the CBI never really has to pay for the dinar out of country

[tampadinar] sure puta a different spin on how the dinar turns

[kaperoni] i did a chat about 10 months ago

[kaperoni] called...Where u dinar will go...  in which i explained the desire of the CBI to make the dinar a reserve currency

[satrib] hmmmm....would seem also then, that these locations would be prepared to process our cashout right away then since that will be their sole purpose?

[tampadinar] yup i remember that

[kaperoni] sat, i was told they have been working on this plan for 11 months so they are or will be ready

[tampadinar] so you did just say you think this year?

[kaperoni] that is another good question tampa if i may, i will expand on that my time limit may be up miln ok?

[tampadinar] no time limit

[kaperoni] ok

[milndollarbabe] kaperoni    keep going

[kaperoni] k

[kaperoni] shabs has a responsibility to each bank in Iraq to help them build a customer base and be successful, so that being said... simply changing the rate one day, and putting out new currency another does nothing for the banks  in fact, many Iraqis would simply stockpile new dinar in pillows, matresses, etcso, IMOI fell Shabs will change the rate several months before any new currency comes out at the 1 to $1

[kaperoni] it was called in an article as a "Staging rate"and i think that is a perfect name for it what that does is... creates a steady flow of Iraqis to banks in Iraq, and as you have all ready I am sure...the CBI came out and said...the old dinar must go to banks only

[kaperoni] merchants will not take 3 zero dinar, so that creates bank accounts,  cash cards etc.

 [kaperoni] in other words this event will create a banking environment for the Iraqi people

[kaperoni] yesThen once he is ready Shabibi can introduce smaller denominations and raise the rate to begin de-dollarizing or removing dollars for the new dinar

 [kaperoni] so Sept -Oct -Nov could be the months he starts this  IMO if he is looking for Jan 1

 [lln65] kaperoni what should we do then cash out a small amount first?

[kaperoni] lln, that is up to u and your financial situation

[faithdinar] kaperoni So no way in July or August huh? No ASN or ADN?   

 [lln65] kaperoni okay so what you gonna do?

[kaperoni] faith, i cannot confirm this yet... but i was told the contract between the CBI and the co. to validate and authenticate the dinar will not be signed until Sept 15th- i do not see a rv before that date. but i hope i am wrong

[gypsy vardo] kap What is the source of this info? Your deduction of the events up to now or do you have some inside insight?

 [CoolSpot] kaperoni not only create a banking environment for the Iraq people, but open up an avenue to address personal and corporate tax of Iraq citizens

CBI denies two British, German Companies will begin printing currency; Member of Finance committee explains three phases, 24 JULY


CBI denies two British, German Companies will begin printing currency; Member of Finance committee explains three phases

Haider Ali Jawad – 24/07/2012 PM – 9:47 | Hits: 86
Denied the Iraqi Central Bank, assigning the task of printing the new currency to a British company, considering that leaks, words “naked for Health.”
At a time in which the deputies that work in this project will be at the beginning of next year, indicated that this step will be implemented over two years, and through the 3 stages, pointing out that the currency will contain the 36 factor warranty of fraud, and will be added to the Kurdish language and English, as well as the introduction of paper currency category 200 dinars, as there will be a coin of small denominations, and Stzen new currency symbols reflect the heritage and history of Iraq’s sovereignty and all its components, as well as many other symbols refer to the civilization of Mesopotamia.
Furthermore, he drew the legal to the absence of express provision in the law of the Central Bank, gives him authority to change the value of the currency and the abolition of zeros They confirmed the need for Parliament to issue legislation empowers the Central Bank to carry out this procedure.
In connection with “the world” on Monday, said the appearance of Mohammed Saleh, deputy central bank governor, said that “Matnaqlth some of the media that he was selected British and German for the printing of new currency after deletion of zeros, words untrue.”
Some media reported that the Central Bank Governor Sinan Shabibi, announced the selection of a British company and the other a German for the printing of new currency after deletion of zeros of them, and was selected the two companies among the many international companies to complete the printing, being the Ttavan about 75% of the currencies in the world.
In turn, showed Najiba Najib member of the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives that “there will be work in this project at the beginning of next year, but the Cabinet had the face of slow down in implementation, due to the rise of the dollar against Iraqi dinar during the past months, but still talks ongoing and continuous between the Bank Central Council of Ministers, to find out the most important key points, including a report on the accounting system and what it requires when you change the currency, as well as the most important legislation that must accompany this process, including debt, there is a creditor and a debtor in the old currency, what will be doomed after the change of currency, as must deal with these things because they affect the lives of citizens. “
According to Najib, in an interview with “the world”, that “last week, we had a meeting with the Central Bank in this regard, and we looked at models of new currency, and the Central Bank and in coordination with the Finance Committee will take several measures to replace the currency, including the withdrawal of old currency over the two years , and delivered to the banks which in turn will deliver the currency to the Central Bank over the ten years to be destroyed, “indicating that” there is an opinion from the Council of Ministers, recommends the replacement of currency by the beginning of 2014, is that the Finance Committee has proposed, to be in the middle of 2013, to exploit time, we recommended a decision in the first of next July, which was approved on this date, but the cabinet is now studying with the Central Bank key requirements for the accounting system, legislation and matters relating to this regard. “
She explained Najib that “currency will be added to the Kurdish language and English, because the Constitution so provides, as well as the introduction of paper currency category 200 dinars, as there will be a coin of small denominations beside the paper currency, and will be added all the symbols that reflect the heritage, sovereignty and history of Iraq with all its components, and will have a reflection and a presence in the new currency that will be of multiple categories, and many of the symbols used which refers to the civilization of Mesopotamia. “
For his part, MP Haitham Jubouri, a member of the Finance Committee that “the project of changing the currency and delete zeros, the project is of great importance, the significance lies in the purchasing power of the Iraqi dinar, and protection from fraud, manipulation and control of the fake money now in local markets, so blessed this step since its inception by the Central Bank, one of the exclusive powers, as is one of the draws of monetary policy. “
The Jubouri said in an interview with “the world” yesterday that “this step will be implemented over two years through 3 phases, the first stage of printing currency, and the second put a new currency parallel to the currency of the old markets, and the last is the withdrawal of old currency to be replaced by new, and there will be two types of currency raised section of a paper category 200 dinars and 100 dinars and 50 dinars and 25 dinars, and category of mineral dinars and a half dinar and a quarter dinars and 100 fils and 25 fils, and will include different sizes, and quite similar to the size of the dollar and contain fees to the contours of the northern and southern Iraq and east and west and central, and all communities Maldiha, nationalities, and landmarks. “
And take over a British company and a German process of printing the new currency explained that “there are arguments of many different companies, including Turkish and Dnmarkiyh, British, German, and yet we can not say that this company or that will be printed currency because there are presentations of many, but if the final agreement, and has blessing by the House of Representatives and the government, then we will think of the company that will implement, there are offers for different companies and multiple, and provided models and offers at different prices and different sizes and quality of paper is different, as well as the factors of security, The currency current Iraqi of 8 factors to ensure, and the new features an 36 factor ensure, so to speak on the transfer of the project on a particular company is the word very early, “adding that” the Council of Ministers is still fearful of the application of this step, because of the possibilities of using this process for the introduction of counterfeit money or may be the door to money laundering, but these fears have dissipated from through multiple and frequent meetings with the Central Bank of Iraq. “
The Secretariat of the Council of Ministers, called for a patient in the case of deletion of zeros from the currency and change, arguing that the mere thought of the withdrawal of about 40 trillion dinars, storage and destruction needs to be serious consideration of the subject.
According to legal expert Tariq Harb, that “some of the texts of the Central Bank Law allow such a thing, and everything related to currency of reference, and despite the fact that all the cash is of its affairs, but there is no express provision in the law of the central bank gives him authority to change the value of the currency and the abolition of zeros, which means the change in value, it is better to issue a law more legitimate parliament and is backed by the central bank to carry out this procedure. “
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Economic Committee Member: Iraq accession to WTO is important; Iraq will join soon, 24 JULY


Economic Committee Member: Iraq accession to WTO is important; Iraq will join soon

Monday July 23, 2012
Economic Commission announces near Iraq’s accession to the WTO
Member of the Committee declared the economy and investment parliamentary Salman al-Moussawi, that Iraq will join soon to the WTO, criticizing those who demand not to join the organization.
The al-Moussawi said in a statement that Iraq’s accession to the WTO is very important and will get soon.
Noting that there are those who claim that to join this organization carries the consequences of Iraq, but he did not know it would be a catalyst to improve its economic situation as well as it would be a party to the global economic policy-making not only an observer.
He continued that Moussaoui was supposed to be the Iraq of the permanent members of the organization two years ago to be a member of an observer in the WTO for more than five years, and thus will have the privileges and responsibilities.
And the al-Moussawi, the organization has asked Iraq to make serious steps in this area and be an attractive environment for investment through legislation a set of laws, including the legal customs tariff and the protection of consumers from monopoly, he said, adding that the application of these conditions will make Iraq ready to join the WTO, which contains more than 150 countries
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BWM CHAT, 24 JULY


[BWM] I had an interesting conversation with someone today and we discussed a number of issues for post rv including bank "perks" or packages. So I called another banker friend and discussed several things so I wanted to go over those tonight to make sure everyone is looking for the best options for themselves...

Jul 24 7:14 PM [BWM] I'm going to go thru a number of things and kind of outline them individually and then if there are any other ideas or questions, we'll cover that...

Jul 24 7:17 PM [BWM] ok so I'll get started and we'll see where we go... the posts will be somewhat long so feel free to continue to chat..

Jul 24 7:20 PM [BWM] first point, your rate. We really won't know about rates until the codes come out and the spreads for banking forex are set for everyday trading. Be selective. If you are a member of several "groups" see if there is a difference at all in the amount the bank is offering you. The whole point of the groups was to help insure that the small holder as well as the large holder of dinar could get the best available rate. Some items that will be listed after this may depend on the amount of your deposit in the bank.
Jul 24 7:23 PM [BWM] unlimited credit/debit card. A dangerous thing for some. I know there are some ppl who are in a bind because of credit, money flows quicker than water. Remember, a couple of things about the "unlimited" portion of this. First, it's only UNLIMITED by the amount of money you have... it will end if you spend it that way. And Second, what type of security/safety risk are you putting yourself in carrying around a card with an unlimited balance in case of theft. Make sure you put all the security features in place for your card including picture id required and such. Make sure that you treat this carefully when using this....

Jul 24 7:26 PM [BWM] NO fees. if you deposit more than 250,000 dollars in a bank, in most instances, the bank will treat you as a VIP... some may require 1 Million USD for certain services and packages... but since you are going in with this, regardless of your amount this should be the first thing they offer you as it is the easiest perk to give.

Jul 24 7:28 PM [BWM] NO broker fees. If you are doing investing and other types of "trading" transactions you want to eliminate ALL fees. This may require a certain amount of deposit but again, ASK for it... you will receive valuable information from your private banker in regards to opportunities for investment. You don't want to pay for that information or transaction.

Topic: CLASSROOM CHAT W/BWM AT 7:15 CENTRAL... HOW "PERKY" IS YOUR BANK?

   BWM: PRIVATE BANKER. yes, you do deserve special treatment, after all, most of us will not be used to the opportunities that will lie ahead for us. Having a private banker will accomplish a number of things for you. It will give you immediate access to your accounts, as well as, options that you have never known or asked about. It will be there job to assist you in maximizing your account.

 MAKE SURE THEY ARE WORKING FOR YOU. Don't get caught up in an investment strategy simply because they suggest it. LEARN. this way YOU are working your money, not your money working for them. Differences in this vs. a wealth manager? some banks will operate under the same title but a wealth manager is purely set up to help you invest and grow your money.

Make sure you are getting what you need from this position, they are there to answer your questions and help you succeed.

BWM: Certified, Notarized, Courier Services. These are little things that will matter to you when you consider it. At the car dealer buying a car and just closed the deal, call the bank and arrange to have a certified check couriered over to finish the transaction.

 Need some papers notarized and couriered to a client to help finalize a transaction. All of these are little things but will save you the security concerns of traveling with money or checks. Make sure you get every little thing you can!

DINAR CHATTER UPDATE, 24 JULY


BGG] faithdinar - It's going to be a BIG TIME INTEL call!!

[faithdinar] BGG Awesome! Can't wait. Thank you sir.

[BGG] BIG TIME INTEL call - you don't want to miss these fireworks!!

[BGG] It will be a hummdinger!!

[poppy3] there are no tier 1, 2 or 3 ?? It will trade on forex even if clasified as exotic and the banks have already said they will be cashing the dinar and the dong?? where does all this stuff come from....what a waste of time ? poppy3

[johnniejones] 7-24-2012 Tony (PTR): Right now there are some meetings going on in the banking system at government offices to get this done through the banking system

[johnniejones] 7-24-2012 cap1: i would be getting my plans in order. We're that close. Everything is positive. We're almost at the finish line. I can see it now!!!
[H-Spot] to add to the above convo-when i was at the wells fargo in pacific beach a few months back, I asked them about the dinar. They said that they had received a corporate memo(not sure if that is the exact term) that they would be dealing with it soon(ugh, that word    ). I was happy to finally hear a 'bank' saying something about it for myself.

[H-Spot] they didn't say anything about a revaluation or anything like that though

[H-Spot] I tried to act stupid with them(not hard    ) and say my cousin on the east coast had given me like 500,000 of it, and I didn't know anything about it. The guy just said that maybe it could be worth something in the future?

[love it 2] H-Spot same thing here only it happened to me on the NORTH coast..and told the my cousin was on the the SOUTH coast... amazing how our BANK stories are the same ....

H-Spot] I was really discouraged before that, always hearing others talk about their bank stories, and never believing them because I always got different responsed from the banks i talked to-i.e:scam, etc. That's why I was encouraged when I heard it for myself...of course, it wasn't embellished like the others too...date rate sh..tuff

Blaino: According to a couple of our top sources and a major bank TYPE.... ( or was it a captain BANK... Nope, it was a MAJOR).... Anyway .... Tomorrow could be very sweet if these guys are on the level! Blaino: hours will tell the TRUTH...... Blaino: on the other HAND... Our usgovt "financial" guys think Thursday... Or so they told us on Friday and Saturday.

[peganded] this is an official planetdinar announcement regarding the revaluation of the iraqi currency, the "iqd" or "iraqi dinar" ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: this announcement will advise the reader that planetdinar.com and the intel team there have elected to declare a "revaluation warning"

[twisted67] one thing I do know is that fate has brought all of us great people to this castle and it's not just for this rv .... yes it may have in the begining ..... but what has kept all of us together is the bond of faith and freindship we have built over our time here

[debneureka] I know several so called whales...and know other people who know some too...they are all still waiting...just like us

[goin4broke] Just a thought. Iraq will give their citizens roughly $3500.00 to live on for the yearly stipend. Most if not all of the Iraq government knows of the impending RV. So once this hits who is left to run the country?

[cruiser] i am watching Geitner right now on Bloomberg. Just looking at his face, you could see something is up. This was recorded, i think. talking about dodd/frank right now

[cruiser] He just said that 90% of the new regulations are either in place or proposed. The proposed is important so that the markets can see where the regulations are going. Talked about 5 agencies that are working together to create the final version of the regulations.

KAPERONI CHAT, 24 JULY

7-24-2012 Kaperoni: I thought I would try and put the pieces of the dinar puzzle together.
Kaperoni: Many have tried to figure out how Iraq can support a RV.   Or how the dinar would be collected back to Iraq.   This topic has been discussed several times and as recently on the DinarAlert Conference Call back a few weeks ago.
Kaperoni: Lets get into the numbers.  First, how much dinar has been sold out of Iraq?  The numbers vary, and at this point it appears that no actual number can be obtained.  Therefore speculation is all we have.  Personally, I believe somewhere from 4-10 trillion…no more.   Others see it as high at 30 trillion.   I think we can discount that when the CBI themselves state the total money supply at 25-27 trillion.
Kaperoni: Now we need to see how Iraq is going to pay for the cost of the war.   Or will they?  Is this a myth? 
Kaperoni: If you watch this video, you have to assume either tankers full of oil are coming to America soon or they will simply RV the currency to pay off some 800 billion and growing debt.  This is only the USA side of the expense.  Estimates worldwide are 3 trillion plus for the cost of the war with Iraq.
Kaperoni: Here is the link to the US Senate Committee Video Hearing: Iraq -The Challenging Transition to a Civilian Mission.  Fastforward to the 95min mark for the Senator Menendez comments.
Kaperoni: http://www.foreign.senate.gov/hearings/hearing/?id=a421f9a1-5056-a032-52ae-3e2b956077c2
Kaperoni: Ok, so we know that it Iraq will pay for this war, like it or not.   They will based on this video and statement.
Kaperoni: The next thought is if it’s not boatloads of oil, it must be the dinar.  The dinar is the vehicle in which they will pay.    We can ask if a LOP or Redenomination possible?  Let’s go with the full 27 trillion dinar in circulation.  If they LOP or re-denominate 27 trillion to 27 billion (delete 3 zeros) and gave it all to the US, they would not come close to paying off the war debt of 800 billion and climbing.  So, one can come to a reasonable conclusion, that neither of these solutions will happen.  Only a RV will solve the financial expense.  Only a RV will pay off the kind of global debt.
Kaperoni: Now lets look a bit closer on where the dinar will go post RV.  Can Iraq collect it and pay for it?  I don’t think that this the plan. 
Kaperoni: Here is a link to an article…
Kaperoni: Experts: we aspire to make the Iraqi dinar portion of international reserves - 28/8/2011
Kaperoni: http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.almustakbalpaper.net%2FArticleShow.aspx%3FID%3D8402
Kaperoni: Quote…
Kaperoni:  “Experts regard financial ambition that the Iraqi dinar is adopted as part of international reserves, through the establishment of a strong economy boosts value of local currency.”
Kaperoni: Here we have the first statement which appears to disclose the plan for the dinar.  The dinar that was “leaked or sold” outside of iraq.  Pretty clear..”adopted as part of international reserves.” 
Kaperoni: Quote..
Kaperoni: "Central Bank Adviser, said the appearance of Mohamed Saleh: the Iraqi dinar is not an international reserve currency to be treated abroad, we aspire to be the monetary policy of the Iraqi dinar portion of international reserves and this needs to be a long time," he said.
Kaperoni: So he is saying here.  The Dinar will not he bought or sold overseas.  That will be done by the CBI.  The CBI will control the monetary policy.  The dinar held in international reserves will stay there for a “very long time.”  Clearly telling us, once again that banks/feds hold this dinar will use it simply as a reserve currency.  A currency held for a “long time.”
Kaperoni: Next article…
Kaperoni: Experts: Economy sober works to support the dinar and attract global investment - 29/08/2011
Kaperoni: http://alsabaah.com/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=12867
Kaperoni: Quote…
Kaperoni:  “and aspiring professionals affairs financial that are supported Iraqi dinar as part of international reserves, through the establishment a strong economy enhances the value of local currency.”
Kaperoni: More confirmation of the plan.  More factual statements to confirm what was already stated.  To prove the point.  Next quote…
Kaperoni:  “For his part, central bank adviser said the appearance of Mohammed Saleh: that the Iraqi dinar is not an international reserve currency until it is handled in overseas and we are the Central Bank and as a policy cash aspire to be the Iraqi dinar is part of international reserves, and this needs a long time .”
Kaperoni: Again, a similar statement.  The CBI will be the Central Bank for the dinar handling the monetary policy.   And once they RV, the dinar will become an international reserve currency (as the dinar you and I own is collected and held).  Next quote…
Kaperoni:  “The member of the Economic Commission parliamentary: the idea is now up to the deletion of three zeros of the Iraqi currency, and this project will hopefully contribute to give power to the Iraqi currency to foreign dealings.”
Kaperoni: They just gave us the answers we wanted.   When will it become a foreign reserve currency? The answer is clear…That once they “delete 3 zeros” that will start the process (collection) to create the foreign reserves “they aspire to be part of.”  As well we see they want to “give power” to the Iraqi currency internationally.  Only a RV can accomplish this.
Kaperoni: Next article…
Kaperoni: Abtan: Iraq possessed 90 billion dollars in Central Bank reserves - Saturday, 03-09-11
Kaperoni: http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikhnews.com%2Fnews_view_19443.html
Kaperoni: Quote…
Kaperoni:  “Saturday: "it is obvious that Iraq is capable of adopting the dinar as part of international reserves, especially large resource he possesses in the oil sector and over (80 to 90) billion dollars of Central Bank reserves and the positive impact on the Iraqi currency against the greenback and makes well-placed dinar as formerly among world currencies.”
Kaperoni: Wow! This quote is very powerful.  They are saying the dinar will be very strong, have a positive impact against other currencies (causing them to be strong).  More of the plan is coming out.   Next quote…
Kaperoni:  “The Central Bank adviser said in an earlier statement to the news agency of news "that the Iraqi dinar is not an international reserve currency to be treated abroad, we aspire to be the monetary policy of the Iraqi dinar portion of reserves and this needs to be a long time.”
Kaperoni: Again, same statement above.  Clearly, this is factual and part of the plan.
Kaperoni: So now we need to confirm whether or not this is the plan.  I think this next article confirms this…
Kaperoni: Central Bank: the dinar covered in hard currency and no fear upon the volatility of currencies of countries  - 12/02/2012
Kaperoni: http://www.aladalanews.net/index.php?show=news&action=article&id=83138
Kaperoni: Quote…
Kaperoni:  “Saleh said in a press statement on Saturday: The dinar today has become a strong and like a hard currency thanks to the policy of the central bank in control of the cash raised in the local market.”
Kaperoni: And this quote…
Kaperoni:  “He pointed to: that the goal of central bank policy at the moment is the stability of the exchange rate of the dinar against the U.S. dollar , Our goal in the long run be equal to it being a process need to be a strong economy and inflation is low and a cash reserve large.”
Kaperoni: And this quote..
Kaperoni:  “Jubouri said in an earlier statement: The approach undertaken by the central bank retention rate of the dinar against the.. dollar during the current indication that monetary policy in the country able to make the dinar equivalent of the U.S. dollar.”
Kaperoni: These 3 quotes…tell us the dinar is now (the CBI feels) a “hard currency.”  That the goal is to make the dinar equal to the USD.  Or 1 to 1.   Therefore, we now see the rate.   Not some foolish rate, but a rate comparable to the US dollar.    It is also necessary  to look at Wikipedia
Kaperoni: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_currency
Kaperoni: Quote…
Kaperoni:  “Hard currency (also known as a safe-haven currency or strong currency), in economics, refers to a globally traded currency that is expected to serve as a reliable and stable store of value. Factors contributing to a currency's hard status might include the long-term stability of its purchasing power, the associated country's political and fiscal condition and outlook, and the policy posture of the issuing central bank.”
Kaperoni: This definition falls in line with the plan.  What the other statement meant.  What the plan is for the New Iraqi Dinar.   Last article….
Kaperoni: The parliamentary economic: to delete the zeros of the Iraqi currency will increase the international credibility of  - 03/09/2011
Kaperoni: http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aknews.com%2Far%2Faknews%2F2%2F259979%2F
Kaperoni: Quote…
Kaperoni:  “And at the same considered decision of the Economic Committee in the Iraqi parliament on Saturday, that the deletion of three zeros from the Iraqi currency will increase the confidence and international credibility in Iraqi currency, noting that the Central Bank of Iraq has a real strategy on the matter, noting that the Iraqi dinar will be the strongest in the Middle East.”
Kaperoni: Another quote confirming the plan.  Confirming the desires of the CBI.  And the objective regarding the upcoming RV.   This event will “increase the confidence and international credibility in Iraqi currency”
Kaperoni: Next time someone gives you a huge bogus rate, show them the facts.  Show them the desire of the Central Bank of Iraq.   When you follow the facts, you get the real story. 
Kaperoni: I hope it helps.
Kaperoni: Done.

HAMMERMAN, BLAINO & TONY POSTS, 24 JULY

7-24-2012 Hammerman: Ok, I’m getting calls on crazy stuff. I BEEN TELLING Y’ALL FOR MONTHS THAT MOST PEOPLE WILL NEVER STEP FOOT IN A BANK TO CASH OUT. SO WHY MAKE A FUSS OF IT NOW. MOST CASH OUTS WILL BE DONE AT PRIVATE SPOTS IS WHAT I AM BEING TOLD. COULD THAT CHANGE? YES IT COULD BUT AS OF TODAY AND FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS MOST WILL NOT GO TO BANKS AS IN A PLACE WITH TELLERS. NO BIG DEAL. CASH OUT WILL BE BANK AFFILATED IN SOME CASES. HEDGE FUND GROUPS, INVESTMENT FIRMS, PRIVATE WEALTH GROUPS, CURRECNY LOCATIONS, ETC. SO GET REAL, GET SMART – LEARN TO READ BETWEEN THE DETAILS. WHEN WE SAY BANK IT DOESNT MEAN BANK WITH TELLERS SO EVERYBODY CALM DOWN. I THINK THIS IS FOR THE BETTER FOR ALL US. LET THESE FOOLS KEEP STANDING IN RENO IN FRONT OF BANKS BUT AT SOME POINT IT COULD CHANGE AND WE GO TO BANKS BUT NOT AS OF YET.


7-24-2012 Blaino: According to a couple of our top sources and a major bank TYPE tomorrow could be very sweet if these guys are on the level! Hours will tell the TRUTH. On the other HAND, our US govt "financial" guys think Thursday or so they told us on Friday and Saturday. NOW, if we see the last few markers DROP then it's a game of HOURS. But so far we have not seen those go down! (unless I missed something in the last few HOURS. If I did, we ought to know real soon!). S has leveraged into a super great position. He has made M "command" him to RV. M waited so long, sure that S would jump as soon as they green lighted him, Surprise! S says OK but You need to dance to my tune first! S wants to do the right thing for the Dinar & Knows the best time to get a great foundation is BEFORE you build, not taking YEARS to TRY and do it later. Now we see the Surprise! IMF "no more $" China says "HEY, remember us?" Now that the final hour is here for M and Parl, they think S will dance to their tune but S, Mr Master Strategist is actually the band conductor! He does NOT do this power play for selfish reasons but because HE KNOWS how slow stuff happens in the day to day of "established" govts He has timed this PERFECTLY! He has them on his dance floor and they WILL dance Believe that, do you hear that grumbling crowd? M and Parlm don't want any more delays! S will do the stretch, M and Parlm will sweat a lil MEBBY! LET'S LET SHABIBI GET HIS MUSIC FIGURED OUT THEN WE WILL KNOW MORE THAN WE DO NOW!


7-24-2012 Tony (PTR): Right now there are some meetings going on in the banking system at government offices to get this done through the banking system.

MAILMAN CHAT, 24 JULY


mailman17 says to (11:03:29): BUT I DO WANT TO COMMENT ON A FEW THINGS   YES..

    glk says (11:02:58):   ok

    mailman17 says to (11:03:41):    ADONA    FIRST OFF    LETS TRY TO DRAW A LINE BETWEEN WHAT THE CBI IS SAYING THEY STATE QUITE CLEARLY THE NEW NOTES WILL BE OUT JAN 1    AND WILL HAVE A NEW RATE OF 1-1    THEY EVEN WENT AS BOLDLY TO SAY......THE DENOMS

    NOW    LETS GO TO WHAT SHABS HAS STATED    FIRST OFF    I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE NEW NOTES

    glk says (11:05:13):    They already have some printed right?

    mailman17 says to (11:05:52):    THE ONLY REASON I THINK THEY HAVE DELAYED IT TILL JAN IS BECAUSE OF POSSIBLE COUNTERFEITING
     SECOND    ENGLISH AND GERMAN COMPANIES  ENGLISH MEANS DE LA RUE    GERMAN?...NOT SO SURE    COULD BE THE COINS

    NOW IT GETS INTERESTING    I TRULY THINK SHABS HAS THE LOWER NOTES FROM 2003 AND THAT IS WHAT HE REFERS TO IN HIS STATEMENT REGARDING HAVING ENOUGH RESERVE    TO IMPLEMENT IT NOW    THEY WONT BE IN USE LONG    ONLY TILL JAN    THEN

    Aunt Gwennie says to (11:07:42)    Lets Implement now

    THEY WILL TRADE IN 1 DINAR FOR 1 DINAR    NOT DOLLAR    THAT IS PERFECT DE DOLLARIZATION AT ITS BEST    GWEENIE..I THINK THE RATE IS A LOT CLOSER THAN WE THINK    NOT THE NEW NOTES    THE RATE    ALONG WITH THE ALREADY PRINTED SMALLS FROM 2003    WHE WE GO BACK TO WHAT SHABS SAID    IT IS

    1-1    HE SAID

    glk says (11:09:09):    par with the US dollar

    mailman17 says to (11:09:51):    THE NEW NOTES WILL COME OUT AND HAVE A VALUE OF 1-1    YES    THAT DOESNT MEAN THE VALUE WILL ALREADY BE ESTABLISHED    JUST THAT THOSE NOTES WILL HAVE THAT VALUE    ALREADY IMPOSED    AND TAKEN UP BY THE 2003 NOTES

    SHABS IS VERY SMART....AND THERES NO WAY IN **** HE WOULD ANNOUNCE ALL OF THIS 6 MONTHS IN ADVANCE INCLUDING THE RATE

    IT WONT SO MUCH EFFECT THE BILLS AS IT WILL THEIR T-BILL AUCTIONS AND ISX

    IN OTHER WORDS    UNLESS HE HAD PLANS FOR THE RATE TO COME OUT SOON.....    HE WOULD NEVER ANNOUNCE IT 6 MONTHS IN ADVANCE    AND    SPECUALTION IN THEIR BOND MARKET BETWEEN NOW AND JAN 1 WOULD EXPLODE    THEY CANNOT AFFORD THAT

    Catfish Dave says to (11:13:23):    If he rv's before the new notes come out...they will have to use some kind of small bills for change.

    Aunt Gwennie says to (11:13:23):    I am ready for it to blow the hell up

    mailman17 says to (11:13:27):    THAT IS WHY I THINK THOSE PESKY LITTLE SMALLS FROM 2003 WILL SOON BE REARING THEIR HEADS    YES CATFISH    THE ONES FROM 2003    THE CBI IS GOING OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE THIS PUBLIC    NOT FOR US    BUT FOR THE PEOPLE    EDUCATION    GET READY    THEY ALREADY HAD THE 50 NOTE    ADD A RATE OF 1-1

    chicagopoet says to (11:15:15):    hi mm17, so do you think september this will pop

    mailman17 says to (11:15:17):    INTRODUCE THE SMALLS FROM 2003    THEN    LET TIME KNOW....COME JAN

    jesse888 says to (11:15:42):    always a pleasure to see you

    mailman17 says to (11:15:49):    THE NEW SET WILL BE THERE....REPRESENTING THE KURDS AS WELL    NOW    HEY JESS    WHAT THIS ALSO DOES IS THIS    IT FORCES THOSE WITH ANY LARGE LEFT TO TRADE IN FOR THE SMALLER    FOR DAILY USE    THEN    A BASIC LOW DENOM EXCHANGE WILL TAKE PLACE    AS THE MAJORITY OF LARGE WILL EITHER BE IN ACCOUNTS OR EXCHANGED FOR SMALLER NOTES FOR DAILY USE

    stlou says to (11:17:29):    there are other items coming to the forefront too MM

    mailman17 says to (11:17:31):    THAT ALSO.....KNOCKS THE M2 DOWN    LIKE WHAT LOU?

    stlou says to (11:17:47):    HCL is out of committee

    mailman17 says to (11:17:55):    OH YEAH...THATS MAJOR    SAW THAT

    stlou says to (11:18:04):    one other thing..    they are pushing WTO ascension pretty hard right now    they want it bad..    and they want it now

    mailman17 says to (11:18:42):    YES...BUT THAT IS IN THE DISTANCE

    Catfish Dave says to (11:19:02):    also the iraqi people will be more inclined to open bank accounts ...instead of packing that many small bills with them from the bank when they turn in the big bills

    mailman17 says to (11:19:09):    BUT ANOTHER REASON THOSE TARRIFS WERE SO IMPORTANT   EXACTLY CAT    NOW

    stlou says to (11:19:26):    and they will need to enact those quickly

    mailman17 says to (11:19:32):    THE OTHER THING TO REMEMBER IS THIS    ALL BANKS ARE READY    AND    THEY HAVE BEEN INFORMED BY THE CBI    TO HAVE THE RESERVE IN CAPITAL TO HANDLE EXCHANGE   AND   THEY WILL EAT    ANY COUNTERFEIT THAT COMES THEIR WAY    AND THE CBI WILL NOT BACK THEM    THAT    SHOULD TAKE CARE OF THE TRADERS    AND ALSO PUT MORE CONFIDENCE FOR THE PEOPLE TO GO TO BANKS    INSTEAD OF STREET VENDORS

    glk says (11:20:42):    I saw the article with Maliki's name in it along with the word "resign" !! I'm still thinking that could happen !!

    mailman17 says to (11:21:36):    THE FAB 5 ARE QUIET...NOT DEAD    MALIKIS TIME IS COMING

    glk says (11:21:17):    sneaking up on Maliki !

    Aunt Gwennie says to (11:21:56):    I am ready

    Catfish Dave says to (11:22:38):    I wonder how the street venders are gonna tell the good bills from the bad...w/no machine at their disposal

    mailman17 says to (11:22:45):   SHABS RELEASING THIS INFO    AND ITS PERTINENTS    IS CRUCIAL    AS IS HIM AGAIN TELLING THOSE INVOLVED TO BASICALLY STAY OUT OF HIS WAY

    I  HAVE THE POWER    AND IT WILL COME DOWN MY WAY    BUT    I WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED    HENCE    THE MEETING HE HAD WITH THE FINANCE COMMITTEE    ECT    TIMING TIMING TIMING    SO    LETS GO OVER THIS ONE MORE TIME

    YES    THE PRINTING AND RELEASE OF THE NEW NOTES COULD COME AS EARLY AS SEPT...BUT NO LATER THAN JAN    BUT   AS MUCH AS SHABS AND OTHERS SAY THAT IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A YEAR    BULLCRAP    WHAT BETER WAY THAN TO ALTER FROM THE ORDINARY    AND DO IT WHEN LEAST EXPECTED    THATS WHAT I SEE    AND THATS JMO

    glk says (11:25:55):    And I agree mailman !!

    mailman17 says to (11:26:39):    HE WOULD NOT BE SO GUNGHO    AND ACTUALLY STATE THE RATE AND NEW DENOMS 6 MONTHS IN ADVANCE    NEVER HAS THAT HAPPENED IN ANY RV    EVER    BUT    EDUCATING THE PEOPLE IS A MUST

    glk says (11:27:32):    No way would Shabbs or the IMF let it out what day he is going to revalue, right now he is just talking about releasing the new demons! we figured out the rest !!!!

    Catfish Dave says to (11:28:10):    I belive he's up to something also... staying ahead of maliki

    mailman17 says to (11:28:20):    EXACTLY GLK    MALIKI IS NOT A PROBLEM    GOVERNMENT WISE...YES    SHABS WISE...NO    ?

    glk says (11:28:57):    ready

    mailman17 says to (11:29:42):  IF YOU PAID 15 MILLION DOLLARS FOR DE LA RUE MACHINES

    glk says (11:29:14):   where is stlou, he will answer! LOL

    mailman17 says to (11:29:58):   WOULD YOU NOT LET DE LA RUE PRINT THEM AS WELL    NOW

    glk says (11:29:36):    they should come with the paper and instructions !!!

    mailman17 says to (11:30:23):    HE MIGHT HAVE HAD TO RETHINK THE NOTES DUE TO COUNTERFEITING    HENCE THE JAN RELEASE    BUT COME **** OR HIGH WATER    HIS PLAN WILL COME TO FRUITION

    Catfish Dave says to (11:31:16):    Shabbs is gonna show the irqais that a powerfull currency will boost their economy and their lives...leave M in the dust where he belongs

    mailman17 says to (11:31:30):    HE VERY LIKELY PLANNED TO DESTROY THE 2003 NOTES CAUSE HE THOUGHT THE NEW ONES WOULD BE EFFECTIVE ALREADY    SO...MINOR DELAY    PRINT NEW ONES    COME OUT IN JAN  AND RELEASE THE OLD ONES TILL THEN    EITHER WAY THE RATE WILL STILL COME OUT BEFORE THEN    AND THAT    IS WHAT WE DONT KNOW    WHEN?    ({)    ANYWAY...THATS MY THOUGHTS ON THIS    STAY FOCUSED AND FOLLOW THE NEWS    LATER GANG

    shellcus says to (11:33:59):    thanks for the uplift

    guardian says to (11:34:38):    not much longer, considering how long we've waited...thanks mm17

    mailman17 says to (11:35:32):    YW...LIKE I SAID BEFORE...TAKING TIME OFF WITH THE BOY DOESNT MEAN I DONT READ EVERYTHING DAILY....LOL

    cebp says to (11:36:04):    thanks mailman gm ds peeps

    mailman17 says to (11:36:12):    ONE MORE THING TO CONTEMPLATE    IF SHABS WASNT READY    TO AT LEAST IMPLEMENT THE RATE ALONG WITH THE OLD BILLS GATHERING DUST IN HIS VAULT    HE WOULD BE SO BOISTEROUS IN HIS COMMENTS REGARDING THIS    TO ME THAT SAYS HES GATHERING STEAM    AND GETTING READY TO PULL THAT TRIGGER.....AND MAKING SURE ANYONE IN THE GOI KNOWS ITS HIS TRIGGER AND NO ONE ELSES    WE ARE NOT PRIIVEY TO THE DEALINGS OF THE CBI...LET ALONE CONSIDERING HOW MUCH THIS EFFECTS THE WORLD

    WE CAN ONLY DECIPHER    BUT SHABS IS A QUIET MAN    AND HES MAKING A LOT OF NOISE RIGHT NOW   MORE THAN HE EVER HAS    AND THAT IS WHAT I LOOK AT    LIKE MED SAID IN ONE OF HIS CHATS A WHILE AGO    HE PRETTY MUCH GAVE US EVERYTHING BUT THE DATE    HE WOULDNT DO THAT 6 MONTHS IN ADVANCE

    guardian says to (11:40:42):    Shabs stated this week, he's 'satisfied with the economy' enough to move forward, that was a great clue

    mailman17 says to (11:40:55):    YES GUARDIAN    OK...GONNA RUN...HAVE A GREAT DAY

    sonshine says to (11:41:23):    Wow MM17 that is reassuring in itself.    thanks for the chat

    mailman17 says to (11:41:35):    TY'    AND YOUR WELCOME

    glk says (11:41:07):    Thanks mailman ,will post in a second, ok

    mailman17 says to (11:41:51):    SURE    (})

    sonshine says to (11:42:19):    (})

    glk says (11:41:49):    Thanks again !!!

    mailman17 says to (11:42:33):    YVW

    WASwearingen says to (11:42:50):   the mailman ran and i missed him

    Aunt Gwennie says to (11:43:18):    BYE MM17

    mailman17 says to (11:43:27)    I EAT HOT WINGS AND DRINK BEER... IN EVER RUN...I WALK GINGERLY

    WASwearingen says to (11:43:34):    hahaha

    Aunt Gwennie says to (11:43:38):    I am ready

    mailman17 says to (11:45:36):    AS ALWAYS.....TAKE WHAT MED SAYS AND WHAT I SAY....AND DIVIDE BY 2......AND THATS WHERE WE STAND...<)

    Aunt Gwennie says to (11:46:03):    Gee still here???

    mailman17 says to (11:46:15):    GONE:S 

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 24 JULY

7-24-2012  Newshound Guru Mailman17    THE PRINTING AND RELEASE OF THE NEW NOTES COULD COME AS EARLY AS SEPT...BUT NO LATER THAN JAN.   BUT, AS MUCH AS SHABS AND OTHERS SAY THAT IT SHOULD NOT HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF A YEAR, BULLCRAP,  WHAT BETTER WAY THAN TO ALTER FROM THE ORDINARY AND DO IT WHEN LEAST EXPECTED.  THATS WHAT I SEE  AND THATS JMO.

7-24-2012  Intel Guru Blaino  According to a couple of our top sources and a major bank TYPE, Tomorrow could be very sweet if these guys are on the level...hours will tell the TRUTH...on the other HAND... Our us govt "financial" guys think Thursday.  If we see the last few markers DROP...Then it's a game of HOURS... But so far we have not seen those go down! (unless i missed something in the last few HOURS...If i did, we ought to know real soon!)

7-24-2012  Newshound Guru Doc   the HCl appears to on a fast track.  A member of Parliament was quoted as saying "the HCl law is ready and there is no reason for delay".  He went on to say this is the single largest issue with the current political situation.  We continue to speculate that even though it is Ramadan there are many under-the-table deal going on and when Parliament returns in mid August the vote will be rapid and a formality.  We can only hope that when passed Maliki will finally live up to its commitments.  If he does not this time around we are certain the fallout response will be enormous and rapid.  [post 1 of 3...stay tuned!]

7-24-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy    Bank policies aren't even place until the currency becomes tradable. We'll have plenty of options when the time comes. Whether it be with an exchange or other. It's a real currency and like any other we will be convertible into another (in our case USD).  The rules haven't even been established yet. No one will know what the rules are until the IQD shows a significant currency appreciation.

7-24-2012  Intel Guru BWM    there's really not much to say right now in regards to the actual RV...banks not dealing with the dinar because it would remain an "exotic" currency is just so far out there...it completely defeats the purpose of giving value to your currency whatsoever.

7-24-2012  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man   I WAS JUST INFORMED--VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT MEETING IN SESSION PRESENTLY. HOPEFULLY FOR ALL OUR BENEFIT--WILL POST AFTER RESULTS OF MEETING IS AVAILABLE.

7-24-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    Allawi can only organize his group to "nominate." Maliki has to submit the names and Parliament has to approve. I think the hold-up right now is the NA wants the IS and KA to put the idea of a NC vote "post-power sharing" to bed. That's my take and has always been Maliki's big fear. Which could be over at any time. There has been talk of interrogating Maliki no matter what - once the NC meeting is held. Maliki does have something to fear - he isn't in danger - he is the danger. Maliki is "the real deal" when it comes to bad guys - if they get him in front of Parliament he's cooked. They don't have to dig deep to find some pretty appalling stuff - no one could stand with him and survive (politically). 

7-24-2012  Intel Guru Cap1     I WOULD BE GETTING MY PLANS IN ORDER...WE'RE THAT CLOSE.  EVERYTHING IS POSITIVE...WE'RE ALMOST AT THE FINISH LINE. I CAN SEE IT NOW!!!

7-24-2012  Intel Guru DinarWishes  Its looking very good as many have said.  Does things and situations Change??? YES, YES THEY DO!!!! Could it happen today, tonight, or tomorrow???? YES, Yes it could...But, will it???? I hope so but I have no Idea if it will.   I guess my message from the NO HYPE ZONE is be prepared for the Best and the Worst...Luck Favors the prepared!!!

7-24-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   Iraq has set a goal of WTO accession in the next 2 years and to accomplish that we believe they must have a fully convertible currency prior. Also today we saw that the HCL was submitted for approval. Last year the GOI ratified the HCL draft and submitted it to Parliament. The GOI introduced some amendments which then were reviewed by the Energy Committee. The Commission on oil and energy decided the draft law of oil and gas had constitutional violations and moved to amend the bill to reach a suitable formula that would be agreed upon between the political blocs. The NA objected and postponed it until now. Let's hope it is approved and implemented along with the General Amnesty law.

7-24-2012  Newshound Guru Enorrste   CBI has said they will go ahead without the approval from the Council of Ministers so it could happen at any time now. Like everyone else I am just waiting.  There is no such thing as "tiers".

7-24-2012  Intel Guru Hammerman   got confirmation that ministers are moving forward and news would be coming out that HCL is being voted on this week and erbil should be implemented.

7-24-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3    HCL LAW IS READY FOR A VOTE AGAIN AND LET ME EXPLAIN, THEY HAVE A HCL LAW IN PLACE AND IT HAS BEEN SINCE 2004 HOWEVER IT IS NOT COMPLETE AND IS OUT DATED NOW THAT THE OIL PRODUCTION IS GROWING, WHAT THEY ARE VOTING ON AND TRYING TO GET EMPLIMENTED ARE AMMENDMENTS TO THAT LAW.. THEY HAVE SEVERAL AMMENDMENTS FOCUSED ON FAIR OIL EXCHANGE AND GETTING BALANCE BETWEEN THE REGIONS. THINGS ARE MOVING IN OUR DIRECTION AND I AM BELIEVING WHAT THEY SAID YESTERDAY ABOUT ALL BEING SOLVED BEFORE THE END OF RAMADAN.  I GOT TO SAY THAT TYPE THING FROM THEM IS VERY EXCITING.

7-24-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   All we care about is implementation of what was formerly agreed upon. Maliki’s political future is not as much our concern as is what he has failed to do as Prime Minister. The best solution for us, is for them to come to an agreement. Cohesion with the GOI is what we want to see. I believe they are in the process of reaching a deal and until that time, Maliki’s opposition will continue to apply pressure.

7-24-2012  Intel Guru Hammerman   They caught more than 100 bad guys who had illegal tier 1 codes and so it was stopped once again for a few days. There are only 8 sovereign people/countries in the world with tier 1 codes. Hopefully we will be back on track by Tuesday. No new intel on Dong.

OKIEOILMAN POST, 24 JULY

7-24-2012 OKIEOILMAN: I was just informed--very very very important 


meeting in session presently. Hopefully for all our benefit. Will post after 


results of meeting is available.

BGG IN DINAR UPDATES, 24 JULY


basejmpr99] phase2 here is a post of what is going on…Talabani: terrorists exploit political circumstances to sow sedition in the country He added that “the perpetrators of these terrorist acts cowardly trying to exploit the political conditions of internal and regional highly sensitive to destabilize security and Alastaqrarfa Iraq, spreading panic and fear being targeted all Iraqi factions, as they seek to disrupt the efforts to find lasting solutions to the political crisis of the current, and overcome the problems and differences and move the country towards the restoration of security and stability. “
 [BGG] basejmpr99 – I did say that was the case yesterday
[BGG] and everyone was like – Really??
[tsm] Maybe if Talabani would do his job…things may just get better
[BGG] It was all greared to slow things down and create splits.
[rlsunsfan] Dare I say I don’t think it’s al Qaeda ?
[BGG] rlsunsfan – I said that immediately. There is no significant Al-Qaeda in Iraq – won’t be for a while.
[rlsunsfan] If it is, it’s by malikis hand
[BGG] Just an easy target to pin it on.
[rlsunsfan] Exactly. Always
[BGG] rlsunsfan – exactly, exactly, exactly…
[basejmpr99] BGG You called it !!!
[rlsunsfan] Diversion…distraction