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Monday, July 23, 2012

HAMMERMAN POST, 24 JULY

7-23-2012 Hammerman: I got confirmations last night that today or tomorrow that Erbil, HCL will be finalized and announced. The National Conference could happen anywhere from the 25th through the 2nd. We do not have to worry about Ramadan. We will RV within days of the National Conference. I am looking from Tuesday to ten days out.

JEFFREY POST, 23 JULY

7-23-2012 Jeffrey: I've gotten 4 different confirmations from legitimate sources that we will finally see our prize anytime from Wednesday to Wednesday. We are getting intel from Iraq that we may see a National Conference as early as this weekend or possibly by the middle of next week. Once that conference comes down and all parties attend then we could see the RV post pretty quickly right after that.

RUMORS FROM DINARLAND UPDATE, 23 JULY


[Cyndee49] Can we get some hope-ium I feel like the victim of a Dementor attack ala Harry Potter

[dealdoctor] KNOW this will happen... be enCouraged...I am not dumb and neither are our intel leadership team....smart GOOD people believe we are in the right place at the right time. None of us knows the second BUT we are sure it will happen...just logical and practical and flat our certain...or up is down..
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[911GTS] there is nothing to look for no markers no ministers no deadlines no holidays no iraq procedures. it will just come. don't beat yourself up, you can watch all the cr..  but don't let it run your life. Icecream at night should be more important than any guru CC or report.
  [dealdoctor] devildogmom Not only our grassroots intell providers but I have never seen Dan and Tony so POSITIVE...SWFloridaguy and on and on ... EVERYONE from Okie to those who do the pokie are saying we are on the cusp, a blade of grass from the cup with  our putt, soon, asn, whatever..POP,POP, BUNNY HOP!!

[sunny] So anybody, everybody any updates from anybody. I heard Tony at PTR had a call from IMF that said today was the day and PTR tested their texting system today. Any words from Okie, soonerfan, etc?

[dealdoctor] sunny No words from Okie or Soonerfan68 today that I know of ... Dan and Tony are so DANG positive...it is POSITIVE from every intell perspective AND it is positive from the article readers too...oil is actually worth money...the world runs on oil..Dinars=Oil

BIGREDDOG] O is in Reno per fox news.  lol

[ZTenor] dealdoctor have you ever seen the tv show "Secret Millionaire"?? Wow.....that's what I would like to do..

 [dealdoctor] ZTenor It is BETTER to give than to receive...if you GIVE you are in good shape and helping others makes you feel so dang good...it is great to get but it is BETTER to be the giver...FACT!

[dealdoctor] ZTenor So to make it fun while you wait...make a LIST of those you are going to bless...and HOW you are going to bless them and visualize their reactions when you say ...here this is because I LOVE YOU!!!

[dealdoctor] Ok..know the news in Dinarland from every corner is just better and better and better and better...and gosh this baloon is going to pop! BOOM...like a Jack in the Box the final crank is just about here POP goes the DINAR!!!!

10:15 PM [Lauren305] williamB collie Thank you both

10:15 PM [collie] Lauren305 yw

10:15 PM [williamB] the last part of that is the clincher and it's missing

10:16 PM [hardtorecall] By printing new currency, it sure sounds to me like the deletion of the zeros project could be a lop. Sure hope not, but it would be an ideal time to do it.

10:16 PM [williamB] "and raise the value of the Dinar"

10:16 PM [hardtorecall] Sure hope they mean the zeros in front and not behind!

10:17 PM [aberry] williamB didnt they already print new notes and the new notes they are talking about now has to have the kurdish language on it

10:24 PM [AuntieTeeTee] ok this is all as 'clear as mud' for me  

10:24 PM [collie] aberry that is the way I read the article..thank you for explaining it

10:26 PM [williamB] and they are deciding on the art for the new denominations

10:27 PM [aberry] collie i remember it being talked about awhile back that they would come out with what they already had and then put the kurd language notes out and start removing the other

10:27 PM [williamB] reads that shabibi has already decided on the country to print the new denominations

10:27 PM [williamB] aberry yes this is the currency they had printed long ago but not released into circulation

10:28 PM [williamB] this is what they are discussing using in september

10:28 PM [aberry] williamB they have coins ready too

10:28 PM [williamB] if i understand this correctly..coins yes

10:29 PM [williamB] also read an article that they wanted to go international in september too

10:29 PM [williamB] this would be huge for us

10:29 PM [aberry] williamB i want it NOW though

10:29 PM [williamB] imo, they would need a currency to have value to go international traded

10:30 PM [williamB] therefore before  imo

10:30 PM [williamB] i hope before the end of this month, but anytime works too

10:32 PM [Lauren305] williamB ideally, the release of the lower denoms before RV bodes well for us, as it would exclude the possibility of a LOP. you could not have a 50 iqd note out that is worth less than the 25000 iqd note, or so I would think

10:33 PM [collie] aberry yes...this is the first time I have seen all of it in print and it is a direct quite from Shabb's...love it.

0:34 PM [Cat-in-the-hat] What is the quote ... on cell. Thanks

10:35 PM [williamB] or a 25 iqd note the same value of a 25k note that is true

10:35 PM [williamB] collie great article for sure

10:37 PM [collie] Cat-in-the-hat they have reserves of the new currency at the central bank to cover deleting the zeros

10:37 PM [Cat-in-the-hat] Thanks  

10:37 PM [collie] williamB thank you...my friend is very happy you like it.

10:40 PM [eleanor] williamB you have link to that article

http://www.faceiraq.com/inews.php?id=733540

BWM: well I gotta run... but news was good on the information I mentioned last night... see how the rest of the week shakes out.

NOON CHATTER, 23 JULY


Cyndee49] Can we get some hope-ium I feel like the victim of a Dementor attack ala Harry Potter

[dealdoctor] KNOW this will happen... be enCouraged...I am not dumb and neither are our intel leadership team....smart GOOD people believe we are in the right place at the right time. None of us knows the second BUT we are sure it will happen...just logical and practical and flat our certain...or up is down..
.
[911GTS] there is nothing to look for no markers no ministers no deadlines no holidays no iraq procedures. it will just come. don't beat yourself up, you can watch all the cr..  but don't let it run your life. Icecream at night should be more important than any guru CC or report.
  [dealdoctor] devildogmom Not only our grassroots intell providers but I have never seen Dan and Tony so POSITIVE...SWFloridaguy and on and on ... EVERYONE from Okie to those who do the pokie are saying we are on the cusp, a blade of grass from the cup with  our putt, soon, asn, whatever..POP,POP, BUNNY HOP!!

[sunny] So anybody, everybody any updates from anybody. I heard Tony at PTR had a call from IMF that said today was the day and PTR tested their texting system today. Any words from Okie, soonerfan, etc?

[dealdoctor] sunny No words from Okie or Soonerfan68 today that I know of ... Dan and Tony are so DANG positive...it is POSITIVE from every intell perspective AND it is positive from the article readers too...oil is actually worth money...the world runs on oil..Dinars=Oil

BIGREDDOG] O is in Reno per fox news.  lol

[ZTenor] dealdoctor have you ever seen the tv show "Secret Millionaire"?? Wow.....that's what I would like to do..

 [dealdoctor] ZTenor It is BETTER to give than to receive...if you GIVE you are in good shape and helping others makes you feel so dang good...it is great to get but it is BETTER to be the giver...FACT!

[dealdoctor] ZTenor So to make it fun while you wait...make a LIST of those you are going to bless...and HOW you are going to bless them and visualize their reactions when you say ...here this is because I LOVE YOU!!!

[dealdoctor] Ok..know the news in Dinarland from every corner is just better and better and better and better...and gosh this baloon is going to pop! BOOM...like a Jack in the Box the final crank is just about here POP goes the DINAR!!!!

10:15 PM [Lauren305] williamB collie Thank you both

10:15 PM [collie] Lauren305 yw

10:15 PM [williamB] the last part of that is the clincher and it's missing

10:16 PM [hardtorecall] By printing new currency, it sure sounds to me like the deletion of the zeros project could be a lop. Sure hope not, but it would be an ideal time to do it.

10:16 PM [williamB] "and raise the value of the Dinar"

10:16 PM [hardtorecall] Sure hope they mean the zeros in front and not behind!

10:17 PM [aberry] williamB didnt they already print new notes and the new notes they are talking about now has to have the kurdish language on it

10:24 PM [AuntieTeeTee] ok this is all as 'clear as mud' for me  

10:24 PM [collie] aberry that is the way I read the article..thank you for explaining it

10:26 PM [williamB] and they are deciding on the art for the new denominations

10:27 PM [aberry] collie i remember it being talked about awhile back that they would come out with what they already had and then put the kurd language notes out and start removing the other

10:27 PM [williamB] reads that shabibi has already decided on the country to print the new denominations

10:27 PM [williamB] aberry yes this is the currency they had printed long ago but not released into circulation

10:28 PM [williamB] this is what they are discussing using in september

10:28 PM [aberry] williamB they have coins ready too

10:28 PM [williamB] if i understand this correctly..coins yes

10:29 PM [williamB] also read an article that they wanted to go international in september too

10:29 PM [williamB] this would be huge for us

10:29 PM [aberry] williamB i want it NOW though

10:29 PM [williamB] imo, they would need a currency to have value to go international traded

10:30 PM [williamB] therefore before  imo

10:30 PM [williamB] i hope before the end of this month, but anytime works too

10:32 PM [Lauren305] williamB ideally, the release of the lower denoms before RV bodes well for us, as it would exclude the possibility of a LOP. you could not have a 50 iqd note out that is worth less than the 25000 iqd note, or so I would think

10:33 PM [collie] aberry yes...this is the first time I have seen all of it in print and it is a direct quite from Shabb's...love it.

0:34 PM [Cat-in-the-hat] What is the quote ... on cell. Thanks

10:35 PM [williamB] or a 25 iqd note the same value of a 25k note that is true

10:35 PM [williamB] collie great article for sure

10:37 PM [collie] Cat-in-the-hat they have reserves of the new currency at the central bank to cover deleting the zeros

10:37 PM [Cat-in-the-hat] Thanks  

10:37 PM [collie] williamB thank you...my friend is very happy you like it.

10:40 PM [eleanor] williamB you have link to that article

http://www.faceiraq.com/inews.php?id=733540

BWM: well I gotta run... but news was good on the information I mentioned last night... see how the rest of the week shakes out...

POPPY CHAT, 23 JULY


12:30 PM [poppy3] blog is very good news and shows again that they are moving forward ..... they are still taking one step at a time and they take two forward and then one back to explain why they stepped for ward two

I am very encouraged and expect more good news daily from here forward unless there is another blowup in the talks.... I liked the two articles yesterday saying erbil emplimented and changes in value changes before the ramadan month is up.

NOW THAT TRIPS MY TRIGGER. BLESSING FROM ON HIGH TO ALL. POPPY3 BBL AFTER DR APPT.

    12:42 PM [templejc] Thanks poppy!
     12:45 PM [Baxter1243] Wonder if the almost 300 people killed in Iraq today in bombings...will effect this RV.....???? has to be one of the worst days ever...I thought Ramadan was peaceful?

    12:47 PM [mona lisa] Baxter1243 just like our 'lent' is peaceful ... not everyone is in agreement with peace.

    12:49 PM [interskil] Poppy referenced two articles yesterday and one saying "changes in value before the ramadan month is up". Any know the title of that article?

    12:49 PM [unklscroog] For sure - someone trying to influence things... big mystery - who is behind it? Maliki? Someone trying to "frame" Malili? Global PTB "bad guys"? Arguments can be made for each scenario - all plausable...

    12:50 PM [Baxter1243] mona lisa ... I guess thats true....its just a shame innocent people are always the ones to suffer...

    12:52 PM [mona lisa] well ... all suffer alike ... but it seems some don't deserve it, that's for sure.

    12:52 PM [tab200] interskil I can find it for you but i think it is in forums a few days/week back

    12:54 PM [kmiller68] interskil the articles are in the blog today

    12:56 PM [tab200] interskil http://translate.google.com/translat...ws/view.13280/

    12:56 PM [tab200] thats one someone was asking about yesterday to... didn't see it in our forum though

    12:58 PM [interskil] tab200 Thanks!

    1:04 PM [poppy3] National Alliance: Confirms to ensure implementation of the Erbil reforms. 7-22-2012 - Leadership announced a bilateral meetings between leaders of existing National Alliance leaders included discussion of the political situation, where national leaders stressed that reform paper comprising primarily the Convention on Erbil.

 Jul 22 10:06 PM [newmonies] ::: Committee announced that negotiations for a national consensus on the process of reforms, saying that resolving the issues will not exceed the month of Ramadan :::

[newmonies] 07/23/2012 0:00 On expectations of commitment to a shared vision by the end of Ramadan, Baghdad - Alaa al-Tai Committee announced that negotiations for a national consensus on the process of reforms, saying that resolving the issues will not exceed the month of Ramadan. This comes at a time expected a coalition of state law, determine when to hold national meeting in two weeks. Jul

22 9:16 PM [newmonies] saying that resolving the issues will not exceed the month of Ramadan

    before the ramadan month is up". Any know the title of that article?

    1:09 PM [onedcharette] isnt the natl meeting something we have been begging for??

    1:09 PM [poppy3] there was another saying erbil would be emplimented in two weeks or less but i can't find it at present and am going to be late for my dr appt if i don't run but someone has it i am sure i posted it a couple times yesterday and day before. poppy3

    1:09 PM [poppy3] onedcharette yes

    1:10 PM [onedcharette] poppy3 - awesome! thx Poppy3

MORE POPPY CHAT ADDED LATER

[poppy3] well i been fasting with bgg since early last evening and will continue till wed. evening at 6pm .. Spending time in quiet prayer and self centered relationship with GOD ... I will continue my prayer rides and will be remembering all of you and our situation that we share.. I am not concerned but am encouraged on the issues Iraq faces.

 They are definitely working to solve them but because of their self serving outlook on life and the disrespect for their fellow man they are slow to act as we all know yet it is very very obvious to me they are making progress and have been Taking the steps needed to get the job done . I can relax and feel this way because I know they can't afford to go backwards .... POPPY3 BE BLESSED

[poppy3] He stressed that “if Maliki did not attend the meeting we will question him in absentia,” adding “this week or the next few days we will demand the Presidency of the Council of Representatives formally to send a message to call al-Maliki to the Presidency of the Council of Ministers.”       POPPY3

.[poppy3] CAN ANYONE IMAGINE THAT MALIKI WOULD MAN UP AND SHOW UP    THAT I AM SORRY TO SAY IS PIE IN THE SKY. THEY WILL EVENTUALLY HAVE TO FORCE HIM... POPPY3

[poppy3] AT LEAST NOW MORE OF THE LEADERS ARE SAYING THEY WILL FORCE HIM INTO ACTION. POPPY3

[poppy3] HCL LAW IS READY FOR A VOTE AGAIN AND LET ME EXPLAIN THEY HAVE A HCL LAW IN PLACE AND IT HAS BEEN SINCE 2004 HOWEVER IT IS NOT COMPLETE AND IS OUT DATED NOW THAT THE OIL PRODUCTION IS GROWING.

WHAT THEY ARE VOTING ON AND TRYING TO GET EMPLIMENTED ARE AMMENDMENTS TO THAT LAW.. THEY HAVE SEVERAL AMMENDMENTS FOCUSED ON FAIR OIL EXCHANGE AND GETTING BALANCE BETWEEN THE REGIONS. POPPY3

[poppy3] THE HCL LAW HAS BEEN CONFUSING TO SAY THE LEAST BECAUSE SO MANY SO CALLED GURU'S HAVE HAD EVERYONE THINKING THEY HAD NO LAW AND WHERE HAVING TO WRITE A WHOLE NEW SET LAWS .... JST NOT THE CASE.

THINGS ARE MOVING IN OUR DIRECTION AND I AM BELIEVEING WHAT THEY SAID YESTERDAY ABOUT ALL BEING SOLVED BEFORE THE END OF RAMADAN .. I GOT TO SAY THAT TYPE THING FROM THEM IS VERY EXCITING ... .

BE BLESSED I GOT TO GO PICK MY QUEEN UP AND LAY HANDS ON A FRIEND THAT IS HAVING SURGERY IN THE MORNING. GODS LOVE TO ALL OF YOU POPPY3

WANG DANG CC, 23 JULY


Posted by SWI: Wang Dang CC_072212_Part 1 & 2

MOD EDIT: I merged the two threads so everyone can see both parts in one thread. sing4u2

Wang Dang CC on 7/22/12 afternoon with Ms. Monica, Ms Kitty & Wiz (transcribed) – Part 1 (transcribed)

Ms. Monica read an article read concerning signing of documents concerning international development of the Iraqi private sector for implementation of reform.

Wang Dang: I want everybody to understand. It’s very simple. Big brother is in the house. America, The Unite States has stepped back in and now we are getting ready to holding their hand and start spoon feeding them again. This is the way we get Erbil ,this is the way we get the banking system up on its feet and implemented. 
  This is actually how we helped them to take some banks that were run by the state and make them independent, private banks. Like the Merchant Bank when it broke loose from the government it was immediately rifled, something like 40 million Dinars was stolen.

So this is what the US is doing for them. They are taken entities that are functioning under a dictatorship and making function even better under a free market system. Big brother is in the house, that’s the US government. I can guarantee it is getting to steamroll now.

It’s going to be like a boulder is going down the hill. You are not going to be able to hold it back. Now that we are re-engaged all this process is going start to really start to move. I’m not just talking about the money. I’m talking about the way they build roads, hospitals and things of this nature.

 We are going to get them to make contracts straight and in line with the constitution. Before any of this can be done, they have to have a currency that they can entice these companies to come work on their roads, power plants, businesses, schools and hospitals to take care of their citizens.

Wiz read an article regarding a member of the Finance committee confirming a 99% success rate of implementing the new currency.

Wang Dang: I want everybody to understand when I saw this article and when I saw the terminology I saw that this was for the global market. This is actually the first time they mentioned us. We are the global market in the Iraq currency.

For all of us holding Dinar, they are talking to us for the first time, openly and in public. Normally when they talk about the global market they mention the ISX (Iraqi Stock Exchange). Now they are talking about the holders of the currency, which is us.

They are getting ready to make us comfortable and confident in their currency. Iraq is speaking directly to us and what they are getting ready to do for us. I want everyone to know that 2013 was not on their mind. They didn’t mention 2012 that we are in right now. They expressly want us to understand it is right here at the moment. The process will be completed in 2013.

So stop being concerned with the date. These people have to do this thing now. They do not have until 2013 to make themselves or anyone happy and with the U.S. holding their hand I don’t think we are going to let them roll that slow with this process.

With the speed that we got this bank up and running and developed and designed Erbil this process is not going to take much longer.

I know they have been speaking to and educating their citizens. They are speaking directly to the Dinar holders outside of their country. Because they know we are holding a bunch of Dinars.

I jumped up and down. I know the process we are involved in. I know it like I am looking at the back of my own hand and that also encouraged me to get back to the basics. So after we are finished discussing these articles we are actually going to talk about Erbil, HCL, lifting of the three zeroes and the swiping of the cards.

Jafari got together with Allawi and exposed him to all the reform documents. Allawi took interest and placed his faith in him. Now Allawi is on board. Now Najafi (Maliki’s #2) he has decided that it is time for Maliki to accept Allawi’s presence and meet with him.

Maliki said last week I will not meet with him because he is outside the political process, but Jafari said yeah you are going to meet with him because I met with him and he is on board. The meeting is going to be in a few days between you and Allawi. So that guy has to have Maliki’s blessing to be setting this stuff up publicly. In this letter he actually announced that this meeting would be in a few days.

He didn’t say a week. He said a few days. So we have a great launching pad for these reforms. Everybody is on board and accepting them and inside these reforms is everything Talabani wanted 2-3 months ago for the National Meeting. All the things that Allawi and Najif wanted, both the National Meeting and Erbil. This is what Allawi and Maliki are getting ready to sit down and discuss.

Very early in the letter he alluded to the fact that he might just turn this whole process over to Talibani when he got back into the country. Talibani is through with Maliki. Now that big brother (U.S.) is there holding their hands they are being instructed to craft things in the fashion. I guarantee that we are going to see the end of all our misery and it won’t be much longer. This is Wang Dang stating this. You can mark that down.

HAMMERMAN POST, 23 JULY

7-23-2012 Hammerman: A lot did go on cant share yet. This I am sure of 100% they have not started on tier 2 yet. Still working on tier one. No movement at all over the weekend in the USA. Now, over seas I’m hearing a lot different; tier 2 overseas could be over half way finished but I cannot prove yet at all.

DINAR CHIT CHAT , 23 JULY


[BOBGETZ6] Angelquest's recorded call. Very interesting. 605-562-3099 590633# Wait and press # again.

[justaguy] Here are the facts: The GOI must be seated. The GOI is out of the picture.. Maliki must be gone. Maliki doesn't matter.. The rate will be high. The rate will be low.. We'll have plenty of time to exchange. We'll only have a small amount of time to exchange.. Hope that cleared things up.

[paradisegirl] justaguy I don't think I will ever again want to get on a roller-coaster or merry-go-round again rofl

[justaguy] You get out of this what you put in to it. So far we must be putting in a lot of insanity.

 [bama] bigdaddytim well, Dan and Tony say ASN lol
[bama] and bluwolf is just waiting on a call from the bank

 [bama] Okie is looking for permission to make his final post

 [bama] Blaino is at a level 5 alert with all his markers out

 [bama] hammerman is seeing Teir 1 cashins almost completed

[bama] and Frank is about to sing another song lol

 [Tradewind] bama well that's sums it up

 [bama] and that's all the "intel" I am allowed to pass on at this time lol

 [bigdaddytim] bama Yeah, and I am under a "gag" order. I have been ordered not to gag when I read it!!!

 [oucrazy] bama . . . did you sign an NDA?

 [bama] geterdone I am just repeating what I "hear" lol I am just a messenger lol

 [bama] oucrazy I can't disclose whether I did or did not sign

[geterdone] bama well at least we are still hearing it......it will happen soon

 [Jeff] bigdaddytim yep a world reset must happen or we are all well in trouble

[bigdaddytim] Jeff The US economy is doomed otherwise. Period.

[oucrazy] bama . . . oh, I see. . . you are under the gag me with a spoon order.

 [Bailey2..] bigdaddytim I agree!!!

[justaguy] A lesson in irony.The Food Stamp Program, administered by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, is proud to be distributing the greatest amount of free meals and food stamps ever, to 46 million people.

[justaguy] Meanwhile, the National Park Service, asks us "Please Do Not Feed the Animals." Their stated reason for the policy is because the animals will grow dependent on handouts and will not learn to take care of themselves.This ends today's lesson.

moonchild] things are not looking good in Europe. Our news is indicating that there has been a 70% increase in unemployment in Spain in the past 10 days. This is resulting in huge (and totally justified) demonstrations by millions in Madrid.

[subnet52] justaguy i am hoping that this currency reset will have some far reaching ripple effects on some of our governmental agencies - which, IMO some need to just go the way of the dodo bird!!

[moonchild] Bailey2.. it is horrible, and it also shows that the interventions are making things worse and not better. The same thing is probably also happening in Greece but local ties here are to Spain, so we get mostly news from there.

[heartfelt] Jane All I've heard so far Tony said they expected it this morning in about an hour which should have been around 2pm est or after. We all know no one knows the timing of this but this is what he is hearing. Dan is on his way to Europe. I am only into the first 25 min of a 70 min call and now going to Q & A.

aberry] jguy i was always told it would show up on forex last it would be cbi , banks, then forex would show it several days later

[jguy] aberry yes exactly look to the CBI

[aberry] jguy cbi and banks and dealers will be instant probably wont even notice they didnt show at the same exact time

[Precious] "The zeros are removed for the purpose of increasing the value of Iraqi Dinars in a way that one Iraqi Dinar will be equal to one US Dollar," said Mahma Khalil, decision-maker of the parliament's Economic and Finance Committee, who argues that due to the increase in the oil and gas revenue of the country, the currency change is needed.

snuggs101] Economic Commission announces near Iraq's accession to the WTO: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Falrayy.com%2F

[snuggs101] thought that was a good article wooo hoooo

jguy] aberry im sure it will pop and we will know within seconds, then who cares where it shows, all we care is its showing in the banks and we can excahnge

BULLDOG CC, 23 JULY

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dakotaman: D - hello and or goodbye

JerseyMike: D - about to board the plane. Lots of crazy things this AM'

dakotaman: D - crazy things going on

JerseyMike: D - heard RV will about before he lands - if it happens, he'll be right back - heard lots of stuff this weekend. re; Reno, etc..

dakotaman: D - heard many things alot outta Reno why Reno?

JerseyMike: D - all poeple that didn't buy are trying to con us out of our IQD   - it doesn't work that way. - anyone trying to get you to be part of something, are crooks

dakotaman: D - be careful many ppl that didnt buy into this are figuring other ways to get yer dianr
  JerseyMike: D - banks/traders/UST will recognize the IQD post RV - it's coming closer, we're in a pretty serious spot. - looking at banking institutuions, gold, markets etc we are getting really close - but don't become disporate & give your IQD to anyone

JerseyMike: G - stories a few weeks ago about people giving up their IQD & POA's signed  - gov agencies were put on hi-alert

dakotaman: G - Brinks was there POA was signed, ppl giving up nthey're IQD

JerseyMike: G - some bad guys out there trying to take advantage of IQD holders - I don't believe anyone has recv'd a dime for the IQD yet.  - might have put their IQD on "deposit" at a bank for them to hold, but did not recv any cash yet  UST will not open special locations. They will work with the banks.

CountryGirl59: The treasury will be using the banks, all the different levels released to all at the same time !!!

JerseyMike: G - all the banks feel we are getting close

dakotaman: G - This weekened other ppl involved in groups for cashouts, IMO there is excitement created by this and others feel left out. The government has said that we are going through banks

JerseyMike: T - didn't get to takl to Dan this AM yet  - enjoy your trip  - I am going to leave after the call & go to LAke Tahoe for his son's 21st BD  - Tahoe is 35 minutes from my house  - lots of info that goes both ways  - info saying it will go within the hour from 2 different sources (will see it this AM).

dakotaman: T - Got a call its happenin in the hour

JerseyMike: T - over weekend, things suggesting it will go

CountryGirl59: W A T C H F O R I T Use your common sense though ...

JerseyMike: T - we're not a gulible as we have been in the past  - serious stuff going on in ME that does affect us

dakotaman: T - there are some serious serios thing going on in the ME and some may affect this

JerseyMike: T - once it happens, can't undo it.  lots of info today on both sides

gaitedmule: the disaster in denver has stopped the rv also.. right.. the usa can't be involved now

dakotaman: T - alot of info on both sides of this, now would be a good time to go rather than wait

JerseyMike: T - Things in EU, Spain, financial mkt's. Collapse is getting deeper - even our own DOW is down  - important to do it now for financial reasons  - on opposite side, bombing in Iraq, Syria threatening to use gas on thier own people  - expecting a good day today - one of 3-letter agy's & Banking system saying it's today

CountryGirl59: W A T C H F O R I T

dakotaman: T I am hopin for a good day. Would I heard today comes from an agency involved with this and the banking system

JerseyMike: T - if military action starts, RV won't happen until the end (days/weeks/etc..) - but no military action yet - expect it today during an update...makes sense

CountryGirl59: DO NOT GIVE YOUR DINAR TO ANYONE !!!!!!!

dakotaman: T - I dont expect it in the next thiryfive minutes but I would look for it during an update.

JerseyMike: T - there are people who gave away their IDQ over the weekend for a receipt   - FBI agents looking into fake bank offices  - my $$$ will go to the bank

dakotaman: T - What gary said before is correct ppl were giving thier dinars away for pieces of paper

JerseyMike: D - some people saying we might be focusing on Reno too much - just want all of us to be careful  - I hope it happens while I'm in flight - but I'm glad I'm living my life in the meantime

dakotaman: D - We are just giving you our opinion and its a positive day, I hope it happens while we are in the air I gotta go.

CountryGirl59: Angels all around you all Dan and Family !

JerseyMike: D - have a great one. I have to run to board my flight

JerseyMike: Travel safe, Dan.

JerseyMike: T - don't give away your IQD to anyone  - lots of good stuff this AM - hoping the RV will go now & then the ME will be dealt with

dakotaman: T - Focusing on the news and info, not much over weekend and this a.m. they said they are pushing forward.

JerseyMike: T - Iraq Gov waiting to RV until July'2013 article discussion - now all is done. Cosing companies that will print their new currency - might be a show

dakotaman: T - is this the show or is this the real deal?

JerseyMike: T - new currency is already out in the banks - they've already stated the 3 000's have to go away for their economy  - July'2013 probably not real, but companies to print new currency is real

JerseyMike: G - lot of news is repeat

dakotaman: T - why would they put the new currency out and gotta lower the )'s so why push it off? They put a little truth in there with alot of misinfo.

JerseyMike: G - seated the ministers (2 at least), Min of Def to be done today - but folks were in these seats perfroming the function already - key players & banks expecting this to come down. We're close.

dakotaman: G - Another thing is that alot of the news is repetative, example, seating the ministers, naming company to print new currency when its alrewady done.

Gary is talking about Dan... how Dan never stops... always multitasking....

everyone keeps getting knocked off....... on my ......

dakotaman: 505

JerseyMike: C - IMF questions

JerseyMike: C - way currencies revalue are reviewed on an annual basis - when is the annual review to take place?

dakotaman: C - what JerseyMike said

JerseyMike: C - article 14 (not 140) re" restrictions on their currency is currently valued

JerseyMike: T - not aware of a timeframe - call I got this AM said IMF stated today is THE DAY

CountryGirl59: July 23rd Winners: GLD LADYBUG, K86Valentine,Robport110, AngelFlower, GypsyVardo

dakotaman: T - IDK annual period evaluation, since you brought it up the IMF said that today should be the day

JerseyMike: C - asking about conditions they look at in this process... - still subjected to IMF review in the end then Art 14 => Art 18 position, etc.....

JerseyMike: T - public vote vs electorial vote - electtorial votes are what counts

dakotaman: T - public vote vs electoral vote

JerseyMike: T - Obama wants the economy on the up swing - if it holds off much longer, he would help him. - if anyone, then it would be the Rep's that might want to hold off. - but with super packs, would they really want to wait - guys this is a world event, not just our country

dakotaman: T - doesn't make sense for O to wait to a month before election if it comes out now it dont help Obama. On the republicans sisde they hold more dinar then not and it dont make sense to hold up eiother

JerseyMike: T - China is going down, EU also, Spain also, Greece also - until some type of resolution in ME, doesn't make sense for RV to happen.

dakotaman: T - this isnt Iraq only anymore thids is the global reset china is going down but they aint advertise it

JerseyMike: T - hopefully the decsion was made over the weekend - we're at the last piece or 2, but these are really hard

JerseyMike: C - need a vacation, been in this for 10mths so far.

dakotaman: C - need to take DAns advise and take a vacation

TONY, GARY & DAN CHAT, PART 2 , 23 JULY


JerseyMike: C - Reuters article last week, once RV happens, the big banks will go bankrupt- don't really understand that article

dakotaman: C - article last week that banks will go bankrupt w/o RV?

dakotaman: T - I didnt hear it Gary?

JerseyMike: G - the process the banks work on is: loaning out money is based on assets they have. For every 1M, then loan out ~9x.

dakotaman: G - I didnt either but when banks loan out money its based on an asset base they have.

JerseyMike: G - so if asset base (based on real estate which has gone down), based on this if they don't have deposits on hand to support this loans, then they're in default. - lots of problems at the banks trying to meet these requirements today
  dakotaman: G - bases shrank with devaluation of land, they are required to maintain certain requirement by law. Many of them are borderline with meeting the minimum requirements

JerseyMike: G - this readjustment will bring alrge deposits from people like us

dakotaman: G - It is my hope that with the cashing in of dinar that it will give them the base required

JerseyMike: C - so this wealth coming inot the banks from the RV, banks will have more $$$ to invest in mortgages, so I don't agree with banks going in the tank.

JerseyMike: T - this RV will increase the banks' balance sheets.

dakotaman: T - maybe yer friend doesn't understand fractional banking

JerseyMike: T - and will reset our RE market - but will can't repeat the mistakes made in the past giving all kinds of loans to anyone - banks had to turn in their living wills so next time there is no safety net

dakotaman: T - thats why the banks had to turn in there living will because there will not be another bailout

JerseyMike: C - if you're married to a dual citizenship person, is it illegal to put $$ in another country?

JerseyMike: T - I don't think so.- but please ask a tax person

dakotaman: T - If yer dual citizen I wouldn't think so but check with a tax guy or girl

JerseyMike: 817

dakotaman: C- Top of the day, ? on vouchers and ? on cash out

JerseyMike: C - voucher question. How will this cash-out (exchange) work?

JerseyMike: G - banks are ready & prepared now- how they're going to do it? Nothing really carved in stone yet.

JerseyMike: T - I hear phone calls people getting SKR's, but I haven't seen one yet

dakotaman: G - all we know is larger banks are prepared, banks have talked about packages but have n't seen any

JerseyMike: T - I know folks givng their IQD away for a handwritten receipt - but don't know of anyone putting their IQD on depoist in a bank

dakotaman: T - ppl saying they got SKR's but I haven't seen one yet.

JerseyMike: T - if I go inot a bank, then maybe I will deposit my IQD, but not with just anyone.- no way will I give my IQD to some person to deposit it for me.

dakotaman: T - If I am in a bank and someone gives me a recipt where I can see deposit pending from this amount of dinar at this rate is one thing, its not a piece of paper a nigerian nightmare

JerseyMike: C - this is like a slot machine. Put your money in & then wait.- wheels are spinning as we speak

JerseyMike: T - I'm not negative, just be careful.

dakotaman: T - not being negative just want to warn you guys there ARE ppl out there that wanna relieve you of yer dinar.

JerseyMike: T - investigate on the internet who this person in Reno is (suppose to be the 3rd most powerful in our country). Why would this person fly to Reno to help us cash out our IQD- this story keeps getting more ridiculous - no way our top poiliticians have to fly to Reno to cash out

JerseyMike: G - Prez of US flew 25 Congressmen & Prez & his cabinet to Reno to cash out their IQD.....yeah right!!!

dakotaman: G - isnt that ludicrous stuff we are hearing

dakotaman: T - we said enough about that

JerseyMike: T - 800 numbers will be put out for us to call.

dakotaman: CountryGirl59 no problem

JerseyMike: T - DB & DT said they will be competitive with the banks.

JerseyMike: G - last caller for today - reading last 5 winners

dakotaman: G - winners rjbarrat99, miss guichi, spankyjr

JerseyMike: 850

JerseyMike: C - when rate comes out, will there be buy/sell rate?

dakotaman: C - is there a buy and sell rate?

JerseyMike: T - yes

dakotaman: T - yes

JerseyMike: C - bank will buy at buy rate?

JerseyMike: T - no

dakotaman: C - How is that determined

JerseyMike: C - does bank set this rate or the forex?

JerseyMike: T - every bank can set their own rate - all rates should be close, but they are different

dakotaman: T - you can by dong at 68 and bank but 95 at DB because once they own it they can sell at what they want

JerseyMike: C - say rate = $3.50 (as example), which rate is that? Buy? Sell?

JerseyMike: T - online, you can see both buy & sell rate.- example, $3.50 (sell), $3.25 (buy)

dakotaman: T - When you go online you will see a buy and a sell rate.

JerseyMike: T - both rates should be close - if you buy IQD, we'll pay more than what they would pay us for it. - that's their profit. If CBI Rate = $3.20, Bank when you buy @ $3.40, $0.20 is bank profit

dakotaman: T - if yer buying dinar you will pay more than they buy it for so they make a profit, when you sell they pay you less than what they will sell for to make a profit

JerseyMike: C - when talking to my local banker, he told me they also charge 4%

JerseyMike: T - yes, but you need to negotiate that 4% down. - interest rate is also negotiable - their buy rate (what they pay us for our IQD) is also negotiable - we can also nego down to ZERO- don't let them say they can't

dakotaman: T - thats what we ahave been saying they will charge you as much as possible but it negotiable. BOA may be less than WF or others, you can negotiate down to zero

JerseyMike: T - depends on how much IQD we have & also how many my own group will have

JerseyMike: C - don't really know a lot of people in this game right now.

dakotaman: T - thats why ppl going in groups the more you have the more negotiateing power you have.

JerseyMike: T - so take your 2 other friends & nego with the bank - Black cards, higher int rate, limo service, etc... can all by negotiated - wasa that our last caller?

dakotaman: T - gary last call?

JerseyMike: G - yes, closed off the brd

JerseyMike: T - got a call from guy in CO, sorry to hear what happend out there. We send our prayers to all of you. It's terrible thing to happen. We hear about this overseas all the time, but getting worse here. - leaving after call to go to Tahoe for my son's 21 bd. - my son is doing his 1st live concert. I didn't know he was that go. I'm so proud.

dakotaman: T - got a call about Colorado its a terible thing to happen anywhere but our prayers go out to them. I am going to Taho not Reno for sons birthday. Musician, talented 21 yo, big day.

JerseyMike: T - that's only reason I'm going to Nevada/Taho

dakotaman: T - other than that I would be home

JerseyMike: T - things still looking good. Banks & IMF feel today is the day. - I hope it does happen today. But if not today, then it will happen, Good things coming out of Iraq also. - Dan also did some pre-recordings. - I'll do some live call during the week to keep all posted.- Dan is here all the time for you. Gary too. - I'll try to fill in for Dan while he's gone. We'll have agood week. Have a good day.

dakotaman: T - dan is here all the time, putting things together for you, I will try to fill in but i am not used to working

JerseyMike: G - thanks for joining us today.

dakotaman: t - have a good nday.

JerseyMike: G - remember the test that will go out. Read it carefully.

dakotaman: G - remember there will be a text going out

MIKE POST, 23 JULY

7-23-2012 Mike: The CBI is all on board. They have read the Future of Iraq Project. The project has to do with the economic side. Shabibi is worried about the economics, would he love to have a great government thats all for the future of his people. Yes, he would but what is more worried about is the economic future of his people and that differs. He is not there to pick the people who are in office. He is not there to give his approval to the people in office. He is there to do what he needs to do and get it done. So, that when his term is over he can say what he was sent there to do which was to build the economy. Get the new currency going and get it RV'd to the point where they have viable economic circumstances

SWFLORIDAGUY CHAT, 23 JULY


[snuggs101] rustyc There are so many of us waiting on this RV for new computers
 [snuggs101] rustyc and homes
 [snuggs101] rustyc cars, vacations, to help others
[snuggs101] rustyc    I am getting an apple. I cant wait

 [rustyc] snuggs101 Precious Well it may be why it hasnt RVd, all those dinar sites closing, conference calls ending so many people will be out of work! lol:rofl:
 [healthscans] rustyc which dinar sites have closed down?
 [rustyc] healthscans    just a joke! sorry if I gave you a heart attack!  

 [healthscans] rustyc Guess you did! Thought maybe they went to Reno! lol!
 [healthscans] da58 I just want this over with don't you.
 [Heydude] healthscans i was fishing yesterday and just trying to get away from this for a while
[da58] healthscans oh man..am so sick of it all..
  [healthscans] Heydude All last week I did pretty good to just come on and check info and leave. I have to do that again this week.
 [da58] healthscans that's what I'm trying too..

 [da58] healthscans doesn't it seem like it's nearing an end?? but I know it's always that way..yesterday was being told sept..and also any day now..diff people, they have their sources..so sick of all this confusion!

 [healthscans] da58 I think more confusion than before.
 [healthscans] da58 and so many different dates.
[da58] healthscans all I want is that one email from kcmana saying its done.

 [RVThereYet] Someone ask how they came up with a rate from the article and i think that it said from 20 mill to 5 mill that they maybe think 4.. sorry i havent logged off yet still getting ready  

 [healthscans] da58 now all the talk about cashing in and so much for each transaction. Wonder what that is all about?
 
 [SWFloridaGuy] 7-23-2012 WTO: Economic Commission announces Iraq's accession to the WTO soon. Iraq will join soon to the WTO, criticizing those who demand not to join the organization. Moussawi said in a statement today that Iraq's accession to the WTO is very important and will soon.

It would be a catalyst has to improve its economic situation as well as it would be a party to the policy-making global economic observers only.

Iraq was supposed to be permanent members of the Organization two years ago to be a member of an observer in the WTO for more than five years, and thus will have the privileges and responsibilities.

The organization asked Iraq to make serious steps in this area and be an attractive environment for investment through legislation a set of laws that including the legal customs tariff and the protection of consumers from monopoly, he said, adding that the application of these conditions will make Iraq ready to join the WTO, which contains more than 150 countries. http://ar.radionawa.com/ ··· spx?id=3

[perky2] SWFloridaGuy I guess the rv is the same old place, soon/ Or is there something new?

[SWFloridaGuy] perky2 Well, for over a year now the CBI has been referencing Sept and January, the closer we get the more credence that gains in my opinion. It could always be sooner. I'm very excited to see what this year has to offer.

I think for the first time Iraq really does have a shot at seeing a large currency appreciation. I do think it's imperative to the process though to have a seated GOI and Erbil/HCL implementation. I believe they may be close to coming to a resolution and implementing the applicable reforms. No matter how you slice it, I'd say we're in a great spot.

[SWFloridaGuy] 7-23-2012 HCL: According to Member of the paradise oil and energy the HCL is ready for submission to the House of Representatives in its future. Three drafts HCL became available legally and for detailed Chamber of Deputies for a vote.

There are no impediments to law, with the exception of some political parties and blocs objections benefiting from delayed personal interests. The adequate study of the oil indicates that there is no justification for delaying the vote on the law in the next few days.

The oil and gas Act legislation will solve all the problems between the Central Government and Kurdistan and limit administrative and financial corruption in the wealth sector. http://ikhnews.com/news. ··· id=49565

 [SWFloridaGuy] That is great news for us.
 [heartfelt] SWFloridaGuy WOW!!! Great find!! Thank you! Looks like things are moving right along
 [SWFloridaGuy] heartfelt It sure does.  

[heartfelt] SWFloridaGuy you don't suspect any of these journelists are paid to print misinformation like this do you? This looks too well written and all makes sense rather then a bad wriitten article.

[heartfelt] Lots of good articles coming out if all is true I guess I am saying.
 [SWFloridaGuy] heartfelt You have to remember we're the only ones who relate this to the RV. This a just someone on the Energy Commission talking about some laws they are trying to pass.

 [heartfelt] SWFloridaGuy You are right...never thought of it like that. TY
 [SWFloridaGuy] heartfelt There are plenty of negative articles coming out also about bombings and instability. It takes a lot of digging to find ones we feel my be applicable.

 [heartfelt] SWFloridaGuy Yes I heard 80+ were killed in Iraq bombings over the weekend. The highest # in a while. Just made you go hmmmmm!

 [SWFloridaGuy] heartfelt Well, they are trying to get that under control. They are holding a session in Parliament tomorrow to discuss the security file.

 [eleanor] SWFloridaGuy on fbn IMF may no longer provide funds to greece, without funds greece may fail as soon as Sept.

[rustyc] eleanor still makes me wonder if the PTB want a major crash globally!
 [SWFloridaGuy] eleanor Oy vey
 [SWFloridaGuy] eleanor Good to see you by the way.   

 [eleanor] SWFloridaGuy good to see you
[heartfelt] eleanor Going back to what foot had said a few months ago, he had said this was the plan....don't be concerned with it.

[eleanor] heartfelt Not concerned one bit just hate to see people having to suffer needlessly when the knowledge available to us could prevent such actions
 [Cat-in-the-hat] Any good news?

 [SWFloridaGuy] eleanor Yup good point
[SWFloridaGuy] Cat-in-the-hat Hey there gm    We had 2 interesting reports this morning that I've seen. One about WTO accession and the other about the HCL submitted for approval.

[rustyc] eleanor sorry if I sound like a newby but that is exactly what I am and trying to learn, being afraid to sound dumb just keeps you dumb. Everyone has to start somewhere. thanks

 [Cat-in-the-hat] Great
 [eleanor] rustyc don't sound dumb at all

[heartfelt] I would like to know how the sale of iqd [especially] is divided, I guess what I mean is there a kick back going back to someone/an enity other then the currency dealers themselves to hype all this up every mid-week for weeks end to only be let down week after week.

IF they don't want us to be involved then why put this kind of info out there for more currency to be purchased. SOMEONE is getting something out of this other then the dealers and I'm not talking intel pushers, I mean HIGHER UP then that.

 [eleanor] Feel free to express yourself and bring info of any kind from anywhere. All in here should appreciate it cause we're all searching for answers

 [warrior54] heartfelt of course there is..
[heartfelt] eleanor very true.
 [heartfelt] warrior54 hey good to see you!

 [JamVox] Just hope it rv before 1 jan or we pay another 8.5% tax on long term capital gains above the current 15%
 [warrior54] heartfelt and of course intel pushers are gettin kick backs..prob the relatives of the dealers

 [SWFloridaGuy] rustyc We're all newbies. I'm wrong about something every day I'm sure. It would take a lifetime of researching to barely scratch the surface of how macroeconomics and politics in that region relate to a possible large currency appreciation on the IQD. This is a learning process for us all. We're all newbies but we try our best. Cheers.
  
 [warrior54] heartfelt been a lil while
 [heartfelt] warrior54 I was not on as much this weekend either. Usually logged on but much the time reading and getting my other work done with an occassional drop by!

 [jutta11] good morning everybody, selling dinars is just business for the dealers and they have the biz because the banks don't. The longer this stretches out the more dinar everybody can buy. Being smart which money you use, not the rent and utilities or mortgage, that is the trick.

[eleanor] heartfelt The CBI is making out, the Dealers are making out,the websites are making out, and some of the gurus are making out. The misinfo we're being fed keeps us buying and spreading the word.

 [warrior54] eleanor heartfelt maybe i will start a support group,,,chrge 29.95 a month....eleanor] Think about it , the more people that own dinar the better the chance of an economic turnaround here in the US

 [jutta11] It took them 3 years after the wwII had ended to implement the new money in germany. This is a much bigger event than germany was. Okie is right about pointing out that this is almost beyond our comprehension with so many countries involved. And everybody has an agenda. just my 2 euro cents

 [SWFloridaGuy] warrior54 haha you'd have to rent a pretty big room. We gotta lotta dinar addicts here (myself included).

 [heartfelt] eleanor I would love to see this happen The US needs help and needs it fast

 [eleanor] Make sure you get your estates in a trust that will exempt you from the death tax. In 2013 its increasing to 55% over 1 million dollars.

 [warrior54] SWFloridaGuy u an addcit? i never imagined..
 [heartfelt] eleanor yes
[eleanor] SWFloridaGuy You know, about the time this thing RVs, I think we will have it figured out.    

DINAR CHATTER, 23 JULY


[hammerman] plan2stand well well wel;ll i heard so things last nite also ,,,, alot did go on cant share yet ,,, bit this i am sure of 100% they not started on teir 2 yet ,,,,,still working on teir one ,,,,, no no no movement at allover the week end in the usa ,,,now over seas im hearing alot differnt teir 2 overseas could be over half way finished ,,,,but i can not prove yet at all

healthscans] [plan2stand] [plan2stand] Hi folks. I just got off the phone with my source and boy do I hope he is right. - He heard some things this morning that are very exciting to us. Said rates are showing up around the world and in Europe on back screens and exchanges. Very high numbers.

[healthscans] xyz this came from his site but this is from the guy that started Hammerman's site. I think he has other contacts

[healthscans] [plan2stand] He said there were only 2 tier ones left to cash out and they will probably be done by noon today.

[healthscans] [plan2stand] Said tier 2 and 3 are schedualed to go together and it's supposed to start by noon tomorrow.
[healthscans] [plan2stand] He doesn't know what the rates will come in at when it gets here and if the rates showing on back screens will hold but he said he is seeing numbers at $18

[Paladin] so a 25% dv now would not be as noticeable as a 25% dv a year ago

[healthscans] [plan2stand] He said the FBI excorted bus loads of people out of Reno. Arrests were made and bank people were fired. New staff has been put into place at the banks.

[healthscans] [plan2stand] hammerman Do you think my guy is full of $hit or is there any truth to his intel?

[healthscans] [hammerman] plan2stand well well wel;ll i heard so things last nite also ,,,, alot did go on cant share yet ,,, bit this i am sure of 100% they not started on teir 2 yet ,,,,,still working on teir one ,,,,, no no no movement at all over the week end in the usa ,,,now over seas im hearing alot differnt teir 2 overseas could be over half way finished ,,,,but i can not prove yet at all

[healthscans] [hammerman] 18 is in the ball park of overseas teir 1 ,, i was told there teir one was 17 to 24 teir1 ,,there there rate is less on 1an2 at least that is what i been told teir 2 overseas 8 to 13

 [eleanor] healthscans Interesting, I had heard but not even given it much thought that this might happen from country to country but only for the citizens of their perspective countries

eleanor] healthscans wonder what country they are referring to

[eleanor] And is it one of the country Winalot picked the forex charts from

[xyz] hit Max and look @ bottom right [+232,999,900.00%]

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=IQDGBP%3DX+Interactive#symbol=;range=3m;compare=;indicator=volume;chart;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=off;source=undefined

[cruiser] blessedandhighlyfavored MtnStar focused on XYZ link. as of right this second. We actually see something on tyhe internet. Via yahoo, and posted on forex. Is it a sign. Do not know. But just that it is out there and has never been there before, makes me think and wonder.

[Princess M] cruiser So is this GOOD or BAD??

cruiser] Princess M Good. Hoping it is GREAT!!!

[cruiser] Princess M Do not go crazy with it. I would explain, but will probably not sound right. But do not worry about it. My concern is the fact that it is showing.

[cruiser] Right now, xyz has provided a link that shows the IQD/GBP on the internet. That is all. Do I think it is good YES. It has never been ther before. Could it be GREAT. YES. But lets see how the day plays out.

[lynncool] cruiser - for what its worth.... tony at ptr call had two calls that said (IMF) its going to be TODAY. ??

[cruiser] lynncool It is possible

[MtnStar] cruiser so what this is, is that the IQD has not shown on yahoo finance before

[cruiser] MtnStar Yes

[caution] I go back to work in two weeks. i was hoping I didn't have too, lol

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xyz]  If You’re Scared Today, Imagine How Bernanke Feels With minimal economic data to divert our eyes, investors have only to glance at a super-heavy earnings calendar that's devoid of any forward-looking optimism

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/scared-today-imagine-bernanke-feels-155817834.html

OKIEOILMAN POST, 23 JULY

7-23-2012  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    THE OOM TEAM ONLY PASSES ON WHAT THEY HEAR NOTHING ADDED - NO FALSE PROMISES ONLY WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN TOLD - WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO REALIZE IS THAT THE COMPLEXITY AND MAGNITUDE OF THIS EVENT IS SO GREAT AND THEN TO COMPOUND IT WITH HUNDREDS - NO MAKE THAT THOUSANDS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD STICKING THIER FINGERS IN THE RV PIE.   WE ALL (MYSELF INCLUDED) HAVE PUT TOO MUCH EMPHASIS UP TILL NOW ON IRAQ ONLY---IRAQ IS ONLY A SMALL PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. IRAQ WAS TO BE THE CATALYST OF THE INITIATION OF THE ENTIRE PLAN AND HAS BEEN USED AS AN EXCUSE UP TILL NOW------BUT THE TRUE FACT'S ARE NOW EVIDENT.

PHOENIX POST, 23 JULY

7-23-2012 Phoenix3333: After two years Iraq will be a request for a permanent member of the WTO. Musawi, a member of the Committee of Economy and Investment parliamentary said Iraq will join the World Trade Organization to be a permanent member of the following two years. The organization has asked Iraq to make serious steps in this area, to be an attractive environment throug a range of laws including a law customs tariff and the protection of held consumer of monopoly within the law to protect the domestic product and trademark law,” and if they applied all of these Iraq things will be ready to join the WTO, which contains more than 150 countries. It would be a catalyst to improve its economic situation as well as it would be a party to the global economic policy-making not only an observer.

MED POST, 23 JULY

7-23-2012 Med: CBI WAS GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE GOI, MOF AND PARLIAMENTARY FINANCE COMMITTEE. THIS WAS TO SET A TIME LINE TO ISSUE OFFICIALLY THE NEW DENOMS. CBI DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY LAW OR LEGISLATION TO REVALUE BUT THEY WANT AN AGREEMENT ON THE DESIGN OF THE NEW CURRENCY. ALOT HAS TO HAPPEN AND THIS TO ME HAS TO HAPPEN SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND NOV., WHY BECAUSE THEY WANT THE NEW RATE AND ISSUE OF DENOMS IN THE 2013 BUDGET. SO THIS IS ON A SHORT ROPE HERE. THEY WANT A SPECIFIC DATE SET. I EXPECT IT TO RV IN DECEMBER, APPROX 7 DAYS BEFORE THE ISSUE DATE.

RUMORS FROM DINARLAND, 23 JULT


7-22-2012 Poppy3: I have heard many solid details this weekend from several sources and they all see them positioning for some solid movement in the next week to settle many of their problems and that is what every source I have is telling me. There is not one shred on negative against the end being very near for our wait.

poppy3] WELL RICH FRIENDS LIKE I SAID MUCH GOOD NEWS HAPPENING AND ERBIL IS PART OF SOME GOOD NEWS.

[repairman] poppy3 so whats up with the erbil?

BGG] slugl28 - not a huge amount of news. First weekend of Ramadan and all - Blog turned out good. I am very hopeful based on the news articles posted and I have a feeling Monday/Tuesday will bring some interesting news as well.

[BGG] Holy Cow!! - Central Bank: we have from the reserve currency, so as to cover the process of deleting the zeros

[tampadinar] BGG wow!

[rlsunsfan] Glad I popped in now

[rlsunsfan] Tell me that's a current article!

 [BGG] I also just uncovered the most awesome picture of Jaafari and Allawi during their meeting.

[BGG] Yup, Yup and Wow!!

[poppy3] OK NOW BACK TO DINAR ... SEEMS FROM THE POST ABOVE THEY ARE MOVING TO EMPLIMENT THE ERBIL AND ARE MOVING ON OTHER ISSUES?? POPPY3

POPPY3 night all... anxious for the next couple days. 
healthscans] I think Okie knew something or he wouldn't have posted 2 days in a row. I just think he can't talk

snuggs101] I thought this was great!! [AZGhostHunter] buckaroo they're trying to bring the flintstones into the age of the jetsons over there. Not an easy task

[cruiser] chillimac The prinitng of more dollars is not what is important. The Value of the dollar is.

[cruiser] Understand that i do beleive that the US Treasury Bills are real and are going to happen, but after the Re alignment. not before.

[scott24680] cruiser The main thing is that the derivatives will all need to crash and burn. How specifically you do that is beyond the scope of what I know and the collateral damage is complicated. But the RV is still all about crashing derivatives

[scott24680] highlander65 yep - I could quest specifically futures because they have a legitimate purpose, but all the whacky financial instruments should be gone after the shift

[cruiser] scott24680 N, the banking change and the Basel III will cahnge the scope on derivatives. The re alignment is a small part of this, but it is the start, leading to all of the banking changes.

[az85] Go back and look at all the BANKS that have filed Losses, this is part of the CLEANUP here in the US Especially!

 [scott24680] cruiser From what I've heard, I think you're correct on the introduction of new currency - sounds like treasury dollars should happen a month after the shift, and in the meantime, the dollar will float (and sink)

[cruiser] az85 Hi. ! year.look at the currency market. Dollar vs.Euro. Dollar vs. Gold. Dollar vs. etc.

[jfreeman] It is like a rock in a pond, the ring leave the center large and play out. Once that happens they must be propped up in order to reach the other sides. I wasn't doubting you at all Boasorte or your intellagance. As I lurk I see others who could very easily become confused. Thanks

[cruiser] Princess M could be today. That is something we will never know.

 [devildogmom] cruiser Doesn't Basel III compliance require an asset based currency?

[scott24680] devildogmom If it does, it shouldn't. All currency is fiat if you really look at it - meaning currency has a declared value

[az85] I was told (by a very reliable source) the the shuffle (that is what it will be) from Fiat currency to Treasury Dollars will being in Novermber and end in March 2013

[scott24680] cruiser That's correct as far as derivatives go, but when 800 trillion of crap goes away, that will be the real elephant in the room per se..

 [eagles4] BigD live dow - 219

[Princess M] cruiser so then it will just happen and the 95% of population will never know or might know but not understand!!

[twisted67] Princess M that is excatly what they want ..... they don't want the 95% of people to know what is gonna happen .....can you imagine if they did ???

[az85] Princess M DId you know when we changed over in the 70's ?

[highlander65] az85 so that would mean we need the RV well before that

[BigB] cruiser Here is something to think about: The FEd interest rate is near 0 but look at what the government is charging for student loans? But we give free grants to the foreign students.

[ken153] Princess M exactly

[captaincaveman ] Eagles wow

[BigB] eagles4 and dropping....

[az85] Guys Listen ... the BANKs have to be cleanup here in the US before the RV happens

 [highlander65] Princess M good question - I think gen. population will notice shaking in markets big time -- what do you say Cruiser??

[az85] They are doing that NOW, so lets relax,,,they have already FIRED the warning shots over the heads of the BANKS..and they have had to come up with PLANS on how they will survive ... so as JONNY Cash would say ... WE ARE ON THE ROAD again....I am excited to know that this is getting cleaned up!

[cruiser] devildogmom I am not sure. It is in place to to determine the assest . For instance Gold will be a Tier 1 asset. Inground gold will be a tier 2 asset (giving it more value) and there will be No more tier 3 assets ( this is where in ground assets used to be).Plus there are leveraging changes.

 [scott24680] devildogmom The issue we have is that the fed's currency model is the worst possible for the people - all dollars are created with a dollar of debt - you change that and things will quickly get better

 [ken153] scott24680 plus interest

[scott24680] ken153 right - the interest is the killer

 [az85] Guys this is the SETUP cant you see it ?

[ken153] scott24680 and it can never be repaid all done by design

[cruiser] highlander65 That is why there has to be a public mechanism. QE3 is that Mechanism. They have done it twice already. The markets will go done, yes, but not crash. The dollar will value at a resonable number, but not create panic.

[az85] cruiser Exactly ... and this time next year the Dollar will be the STRONGEST again ... this is the SETUP Watch!

[devildogmom] scott24680 I'm with you on the current model. Every time they print money, our dollars become worth less. Something's gotta give.

BGG CHAT, 23 JULY


Jul 23 8:44 AM [rlsunsfan] I saw that there was good news last night.

[BGG] Talk about the ultimate pressure point = Vice Kurd: We will interrogate al-Maliki in absentia if they do not attend to the House of Representatives

 [BGG] WOWSERS

[BGG] I guess the opposition isn't quite so dead after all?? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 [BGG] Sounds like I wasn't "all wet" after all??

[BGG] If that doesn't motivate him to get along - nothing will.

[Sugar Pie] does it say when they will interrogate him?

 [BGG] MOJO is back - Blog is up.I'll be adding to it all day.Stay tuned.

 [rlsunsfan] What was the article that said the bank is ready?

[mojavesam] BGG what is your take on the ramifications of todays attack?
[BGG] mojavesam - sounds like more "Maliki slow down" antics - nobody is buying.

 [mojavesam] BGG confused are you saying the attacks did not take place?

[chattels] CBI: Zero’s must drop at beginning of year; Would cause accounting problems : http://www.dinarupdates. ··· post7373

[BGG] mojavesam - NO - I'M saying it Maliki behind them.

 [BGG] wouldn't be the first time.

 [BGG] look for a "martial law" mandate soon.

 [BGG] he's terrified of what's coming.

 [mojavesam] BGG that makes some sense.

Jul 23 9:17 AM [BGG] killed 28 people and wounded 149 others, several bombings in the Iraqi provinces. The Iraqi sources, close to reaching a tentative agreement between Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and the Iraqi leader Ayad Allawi, the new initiative of the National Alliance, led by the leader of the coalition, Ibrahim al-Jaafari

 [BGG] they are nearing a deal - not by his choice and he is trying to "derail" it - is my take.

[BGG] Jaafari and Talibani have Maliki by the "nap of the neck" and are going to stick his nose in it if he won't go willingly.

 [rlsunsfan] Bgg. The blog is exciting, as usual.

[BGG] TYVM

[rlsunsfan] What was the news last bight about finishing before the end of Ramadan ?

 [BGG] I just said it wouldn't matter soon.

[kwanvestor] BGG - do you think it is significant the the Standby Agreement has not been extended?

[rlsunsfan] The end of Ramadan ? Probably not. If that article about the cbi being ready and all the positives out there. Ramadan may be prosperous for all

[BGG] kwanvestor - I think it will be significant when Maliki's tenure is not extended. That's what I think will be the most significant piece.

[BGG] and it appears we are drawing near.

[kwanvestor] BGG - Do you mean truncating his current term (either via a deal or NC vote) not allowing him to go beyond the end of his current term?

[BGG] kwanvestor - current term.

[kwanvestor] Or not allowing him to go beyond his current term. sorry left a word out.

[kwanvestor] BGG - ok thanks.

[BGG] and then both - since they are working on it already.

[BGG] looks like everyone is at DEFCON 3 and backing down  

[BGG] we'll see if it brings results.

MP Moussawi: After two years Iraq will be a request for a permanent member of the WTO, 23 july


MP Moussawi: After two years Iraq will be a request for a permanent member of the WTO

A member of the Committee of Economy and Investment parliamentary Salman al-Musawi, “Iraq will join the World Trade Organization to be a permanent member of the following two years.
He said in a statement received Kalhanaba public opinion (and babysit) a copy of “The Iraq to join the World Trade Organization is very important regardless of the vote not to claim under the pretext of joining the consequences carried by this accession, which is wrong.”
He said Moussaoui “was supposed to be the Iraq of the permanent members of the organization two years ago to being a member of an observer in the WTO” Akzac “Since more than five years and therefore will have the privileges and responsibilities.”
He explained, “that the organization has asked Iraq to make serious steps in this area, to be an attractive environment for Lastosmar through Chiraa a range of laws including a law customs tariff and the protection of held consumer of monopoly within the law to protect the domestic product and trademark law,” and if they applied all of these Iraq things will be ready to join the WTO, which contains more than 150 countries. “
He noted that there are those who claim that joining this organization carries the consequences of Iraq, but he did not know it would be a catalyst to improve its economic situation as well as it would be a party to the global economic policy-making not only an observer.
http://bit.ly/Okpgrq

Member of Finance Committee: Kurdish language and pictures of famous landmarks of Kurdistan will be printed in the new currency, 23 july


Member of Finance Committee: Kurdish language and pictures of famous landmarks of Kurdistan will be printed in the new currency

Dated: 7/23/2012 11:31:51 Monday
Baghdad (news) .. According to a member of the Finance Committee MP / National Alliance / Secretary Hadi Abbas, the new currency will see the introduction of the Kurdish language in addition to Arabic and English.
Abbas said (of the Agency news) said on Monday: The new currency deleted zeros will enter the Kurdish language and features images from the territory of Kurdistan on both sides, the most important waterfall completely to Beck, indicating, that the English language will be allocated only to the numbers (a number and writing).
He added that the central bank is going according to articles of the constitution which provides for the introduction of the Kurdish language in all official transactions, and the bank an independent body neutrality has nothing to do internal conflicts between Baghdad and Erbil.
He explained: that the new currency will go through several stages starting agreement Bank of the Central and the Ministry of Finance and the central government on the date of issue and then deal with companies that will be printed according to international standards, and after the phase of destruction of the old currency and the descent of the new currency to the market and planned at the beginning of the year (2013).
http://bit.ly/MiSx73

CBI: we have from the reserve currency, so as to cover the process of deleting the zeros, 23 july


CBI: we have from the reserve currency, so as to cover the process of deleting the zeros

Baghdad / justice – 23/07/2012 -
Said Central Bank Governor Sinan Shabibi for the selection of a British company and the other a German for the printing of the new process to delete the zeros after it.
The Shabibi during a meeting with members of the Finance Committee, the parliamentary according to a statement of the Commission that the central bank chose a British company and the other a German among the many international companies to complete the process of printing the new currency being the Ttavan about 75% of the currencies in the world. He noted that the central bank has reserves of the coin so that they can in the process of deletion of zeros and coverage significantly. He Shabibi the main reason in the process of deleting the zeros due to the economic stability experienced by the country and the ability of the large cash with the Central Bank.
and on the currency auction between Shabibi the operation as a window to enter the foreign currency and raise the value of the dinar Iraq. The parliamentary delegation included Deputy Hussain Yasiri, and MP Ibrahim al-Mutlaq, MP Magda al-Tamimi.
During the meeting, they discussed the latest developments reached by the Central Bank in the subject to delete the zeros and replacing the national currency and the policy of the completion of this process.
The meeting discussed the issue of controls adopted in the auction currency and the volume of the money supply
http://bit.ly/LHIGpP

Shabibi announces the selection of British and German companies for the printing of the currency after you delete the zeros, 23 july


Shabibi announces the selection of British and German companies for the printing of the currency after you delete the zeros

Sunday, July 22, 2012 16:11
Baghdad {: News} Euphrates said Central Bank Governor Sinan Shabibi for the selection of a British company and the other a German for the printing of the new process to delete the zeros after it.
Shabibi said during a meeting with members of the Parliamentary Finance Committee, according to a statement of the Commission that the bank ‘s central chose a British company and the other a German among the many international companies to complete the process of printing the new currency being the Ttavan about 75% of the currencies in the world .
He noted that the central bank has reserves of the currency, including in the process can delete the zeros and coverage significantly.
And Shabibi said that the main reason in the process of deleting the zeros due to the economic stability and the ability of the country experienced significant cash at the bank ‘s central.
And on the currency auction between Shabibi the operation as a window to enter the foreign currency and raise the value of Iraqi dinar .
The delegation parliamentary annexation MP Abdul-Hussein al-Yasiri , and MP Ibrahim al-Mutlaq, MP Magda al-Tamimi .
During the meeting, discuss the latest developments reached by the Central Bank on the subject of the deletion of zeros and replacement of the national currency and the policy of the completion of this process .
the meeting also discussed the issue of controls adopted in the auction currency and the volume of the money supply
http://bit.ly/NGwPLY

Shabibi expected delays to be put on new currency but continues to ask for Jan 1, 2013 despite GOI requests, 23 july


Shabibi expected delays to be put on new currency but continues to ask for Jan 1, 2013 despite GOI requests

Baghdad/JD/…The CBI predicted delays in putting the new currency early next year and to developments and discussions with the Government.
Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki demanded earlier with the Bank to wait with his work and put it in the currency changeover from January of 2013.
Central Bank Governor Sinan Al-Shabibi/JD/: “put the currency early next year is uncertain because of the recent discussions and debates with the Government”.
Al-Shabibi said “it would be in the process of cooperation with the Government.”
Central Bank Governor noted that the continuing currency switch, and the previous dates for remaining but developments have delayed.
The Bank confirmed the earlier l/JD/: “ask the new currency would be 1/1/2013, despite Government demands a wait operation”.
The World Bank official letter to Cabinet explaining pros switch currency market and money supply and exchange rate increase and other issues
http://bit.ly/PIoiGW
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JUST HOPIN THOUGHTS:
Just Hopin Here Shabibi is acknowledging the GOI's request however remains steadfast in asking for Jan 1, 2013