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Saturday, July 14, 2012

FOOTFORWARD CHAT, 15 JULY


[footforward] NO ONE WANTS TO TALK BECAUSE WHEN WE SAY ANYTHING, WE EITHER GET CHEWED OUT FROM OTHER INTEL PEOPLE, OR WE GET BASHED TO NO END LOL. SO I KNOW NOT ALL OF YOU LIKE OR AGREE WITH ME. THATS TOTALLY FINE. JUST SAVE THE BASHING UNTIL I LEAVE LOL

[footforward] NOTHING BAD THAT IVE HEARD OF AT ALL, IT HAS BEEN GOOD, AND AGAIN THE LAST FEW DAYS IT HAS BEEN NEW INFORMATION. THATS ALWAYS A GOOD SIGN AS OPPOSED TO THE SAME OLD STUFF OVER AND OVER AGAIN..

[footforward] FOR SO LONG THIS HAS SEEMED MUCH LIKE A PING PONG MATCH. BACK AND FORTH. YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME IF THIS SOUNDS KINDA VAGE. I JUST DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH THE FLACK FROM PEOPLE TONIGHT FOR SAYING TOO MUCH. IT SEEMS THAT WE ARE FINALLY MAKING PROGRESS FORWARD AS OPPOSED TO BEING BACK AND FORTH. I DONT HAVE AN EXACT TIME FRAME, BUT GET, ITS PROGRESS
[footforward] NO ONE WANTS TO TALK BECAUSE WHEN WE SAY ANYTHING, WE EITHER GET CHEWED OUT FROM OTHER INTEL PEOPLE, OR WE GET BASHED TO NO END LOL. SO I KNOW NOT ALL OF YOU LIKE OR AGREE WITH ME. THATS TOTALLY FINE. JUST SAVE THE BASHING UNTIL I LEAVE LOL

[footforward] NOTHING BAD THAT IVE HEARD OF AT ALL, IT HAS BEEN GOOD, AND AGAIN THE LAST FEW DAYS IT HAS BEEN NEW INFORMATION. THATS ALWAYS A GOOD SIGN AS OPPOSED TO THE SAME OLD STUFF OVER AND OVER AGAIN..

[footforward] FOR SO LONG THIS HAS SEEMED MUCH LIKE A PING PONG MATCH. BACK AND FORTH. YOU GUYS WILL HAVE TO FORGIVE ME IF THIS SOUNDS KINDA VAGE. I JUST DONT WANT TO DEAL WITH THE FLACK FROM PEOPLE TONIGHT FOR SAYING TOO MUCH. IT SEEMS THAT WE ARE FINALLY MAKING PROGRESS FORWARD AS OPPOSED TO BEING BACK AND FORTH. I DONT HAVE AN EXACT TIME FRAME, BUT GET, ITS PROGRESS

[footforward] cooking_queen GOOD NEWS IS I DONT FEEL WE ARE JUST GOING BACK AND FORTH ANYMORE

[footforward] AND I HAVE 5 VERY GOOD REASONS TO BELIEVE IT IS, THEN WE ARE MAKING FORWARD PROGRESS FINALLY. BUT THAT DOESNT GIVE US A REALLY CLEAR TIME FRAME

[hawaii50] footforward You mean the VND between 2 and 20 cents, not the dinar...right?

 [footforward] hawaii50 THE VND. NOT THE DINAR

[footforward] keiji IM BEING VAGE BECAUSE IM TIRED OF BEING CRAPPED ON AND BLAMED FOR STOPPING THE RV LO

[footforward] maddy IVE BEEN ASKED NOT TO MENTION RENO OR ANY OTHER CITY SPECIFICLY BECAUSE OF THE S*IT STORM IT CAUSED LAST TIME I SHARED MY "OPINION"

[vote4rv] footforward as in u want to hold my pink stuff....little birdie told me not to give my wallpaper to strangers

[footforward] vote4rv I WOULDNT. I THINK YOU GUYS SHOULD KEEP YOUR DINAR CLOSE UNTIL SOMEONE PUTS MONEY IN YOUR ACCOUNT

[chillimac] footforward you just didnt know how powerful yo are huh, stoping the rv lol

[footforward] chillimac YA WELL...YOU KNOW WITH MY BIG HEAD AND EVERYTHING THE WORLD REVOLVES AROUND ME LOL. (PLS NOTE SARCASIM)

[duffy] Foot: I don' t think any one person can stop the RV.

[footforward] duffy I'LL GIVE YOU THE NUMBERS OF ABOUT A DOZEN PEOPLE SO YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH THEM LO

[footforward] GUYS THE MORE INTENSE EVERYTHING GETS, THE QUIETER IT WILL GET

[footforward] SO BE READY FOR THAT

[swan2000] FF, is it necessary to collapse financial system before RV?

[footforward] swan2000 NO, THE SYSTEM DOESNT HAVE TO COLLAPSE FIRST

[footforward] SO LET ME LEAVE IT AT THERE SEEMS TO BE FORWARD MOTION, AND I EXPECT THE RATE TO BE "REAL GOOD". IS THAT VAGE ENOUGH?

[footforward] IF YOU WANT MY HONEST OPINION

 [footforward] I DO THINK THE RATE GOES UP THE LONGER THIS GOES

[footforward] BUT NO MATTER WHEN THIS SHOWS PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU ARE IN A MIND FRAME THAT IS READY TO GO. SO YOU DONT GET CAUGHT WITH YOUR PANTS DOWN

[kord] footforward Do you think it is even possible that we might be going to the bank before 2013??

[footforward] kord YA I THINK SO. I WOULD HOPE WE GO TO THE BANK BEFORE 2013

[footforward] justbelieve7 I KNOW. BUT SOME ARENT READY MENTILY FOR THIS

[footforward] keiji THE STUFF THAT NO ONE IS SUPPOSED TO KNOW ABOUT. EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE THAT NEEDS TO BE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. ITS A BATTLE FOR CONTROL. THAT SIMPLE

[footforward] trazy IT CAN BE ANY TIME. BUT COMING WITH A SPECIFIC DATE IS LIKE NAILING JELLOW TO A TREE. AND I HAVENT PERFECTED THAT YET LOL

[raven] footforward if the RV was supposed to have happened last Tuesday...would it make sense that they would try again soon?

[footforward] raven WELL IT DOESNT MEAN THEY WOULD SIT IN A ROOM AND DECIDE TO BLOW IT OFF FOR MONTHS ON END. PUT IT THAT WAY

[footforward] trooperb IVE ALWAYS SAID IF I EXPECTED THIS TO BE A WAYS OFF I WOULD TELL YOU. I HAVENT EVEN SUGGESTED THAT. SO THAT SHOUDL ANSWER YOUR QUESTION IN A WAY THAT WONT GET ME IN TOO MUCH TROUBLE LOL

[footforward] carolinah2o~~ THANK YOU. PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THE "PLAN" IS. BUT THATS HAD TO CHANGE SEVERAL TIMES

[footforward] GUYS IM SORRY I DO HAVE TO RUN. I MIGHT NOT BE ON ALOT FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. I WILL TRY BUT IM HEADING OUT OF TOWN TO HELP MY GRANDMA WITH SOME STUFF AND SHE WILL KEEP ME BUSY

EAGLE1 POST, 15 JULY

IQD DEVELOPMENTS:

Good Morning, Family!

The past 24 hours have brought about some extremely interesting developments. Friday Night a group of us gathered for a private discussion on these developments, including Mxxxxxxx , Zxxxxxxxxxx,, Inner Harmony, PAPPA-J, Rxxx Pxxxx and myself. I'm posting this as a summary of our discussion at their recommendation.

Thursday at roughly 5:00 PM Eastern, the IQD showed up on FOREX at the Frankfurt Exchange, and shortly thereafter on the Paris Exchange. For reasons explained otherwise, it did not appear on Citibank’s FOREX site in the U.S., and that may be because the USD was not referenced in this announcement.

The actual exchange looked like this:

EUR/IQD (EUR-IQD.F)-Frankfurt 
0.16 1,555.5270 (99.9900%) Jul 12
Add to Portfolio. Prev Close: 1,474.7684 
Open: N/A 
Bid: N/A 
Ask: N/A 
Day's Range: N/A - N/A 
52wk Range: 1,436.6387 - 1,678.8651 
..Compare Brokers
EUR-IQD.F EUR/IQD 0.16 Currencies FRA 
EURIQD=X EUR/IQD 1,418.05 Currencies CCY
As you can see, the IQD was referenced to the Euro. The Euro was equal (in this posting) to .16 IQD. That would make the IQD worth Eu6.25. Take the current value of the Euro against the US Dollar and we have a valuation of the IQD against the USD equal to $7.62.

Thursday night’s appearance on both the Frankfurt and Paris exchanges did more than raise some eyebrows. Delta’s first reaction was that this was a glitch in the FOREX computers, but the rate continued to display for some seven hours. (Update: The rate was still there, by the way, as of noon Friday.) We’ve seen glitches before, but they generally last for a few minutes, and maybe an hour at the absolute outside.

There was, however, a fascinating coincidence to the appearance of this item on FOREX (and if you believe that it was a coincidence, I've got a bridge for sale! GRIN!). On the day following the appearance of this rate with both Frankfurt and Paris FOREX exchanges, we learn that the Iraqi Minister of Finance as well as other representatives from the GOI were in Frankfurt and Paris to open up embassies. Makes you go, HMMMMMMMM....

In a previous post, I’ve noted that there has been some ongoing discussion regarding an effort by the U.S. Fed to push the USD to some specific target value against the so-called “basket of currencies” (by which the USD is measured). There’s been a fair amount of speculation among our analysts as to just what that target might be. 

Because the IQD (at the program rate of 1166/Dollar) has generally been valued at $.000855 (or thereabouts), the speculation has been that the target value of the USD against the basket of currencies was likely about $.86. The Dollar has for many months ranged between $.79 and $.82, hitting a high roughly a year ago of $.8250.

At the close of the exchanges Thursday night, the USD was at $.8378 against the basket of currencies – the highest we’ve seen in years. Friday morning, the following headline appeared on Citibank’s New York FOREX exchange under a byline by Michael Boutros: US Dollar Index Reaches 10,070 Objective- Consolidation Ahead. 

  Because we’ve been using the traditional basket of currencies against which the USD’s value is established worldwide, it never occurred to us that the Fed’s objective (along with all of the other central banks) was predicated on a measurement of a much larger (worldwide?) basket. 

What this headline (and the attendant article) is telling us is that the target valuation for the USD has been reached – a rate which currencies worldwide can use as a baseline, and a rate which makes the upcoming IQD RV (as well as a group of other currency revaluations) desirable. 

Now, let me go back to the posting which appeared Thursday night on Frankfurt’s FOREX exchange. You will see the following notation: EUR-IQD.F EUR/IQD 0.16 Currencies FRA. Here’s where things get interesting. The FRA notation has a double meaning. The first is “Fixed Rate Adjustment.” The second is “Forward Rate Agreement.” In short, a forward rate agreement (FRA) is an over-the-counter financial futures contract on short-term deposits.

Both of these uses of the FRA notation indicate an increase in value and advise currency traders and businesses/nations engaged in contract negotiations with Iraq that the IQD is about to revalue and that future contracts will need to incorporate the new rate.

This would seem to indicate that the target rate for the IQD is $7.62. (I would highly caution all of you to consider this figure with a lot of question marks. For all practical purposes it doubles Frank's $3.86 projection.) Does that mean that Dr. Shabibi will make his announcement with the IQD coming out all at once at this 7.62 rate?

For those of us who have analyzed this piece of information, it would seem like that would cause a shock in many economies, and that a gradual increase over a six-to-twelve month (or even an 18-month) span in 90-day increments, the first being at Ernst & Young’s suggested $1.30 rate being the more logical and probable.

I don’t have that answer – YET! What I do know is that the wheels are turning and Shabibi’s announcement is imminent. If we get anything like $7.62 at the outset, you’ll have to cover your ears to protect your hearing from the deafening roar of excitement!

Lastly, there’s been more than a little scuttle about both Shabibi and Maliki (the PM) awaiting the return of Talabani, Iraq’s President, and affording him the honor of making the announcement. Friday’s news indicates that Talabani will be back in one week, and that he has been recuperating from back surgery. Frank's mention of July 23rd as a highly possible date sits well with all of us.

Finally, the last item in our discussion was a phone call I received late yesterday morning from a longtime friend who has retired from the RCMP and served as the equivalent head of Canada's Secret Service (Sorry, but I don't remember what they call this particular division of the RCMP). This gentleman is not given to dreams or visions, and is very fact-oriented and takes a sober, businesslike approach to things. He also happens to be an investor in IQD.

He was awakened Friday morning out of a dream that gripped him with its significance. In this dream he saw Satan standing over a prostrated man with his foot on his chest. As he began to take a closer look, he said that the chest was literally covered with and/or made up of Dinar. As he continued to survey the situation, he saw our current WH administration standing by smiling broadly. At the same time he heard the voice of God speak and say, "That's enough! Take your foot off now!" Satan was forced to take his foot off and the man arose. The implication was clear. 

However Satan has been restricting things, whatever means he has used to block this release, God has freed things.

That’s where we are, folks. Inch by inch by inch by inch we’ve been getting there. I remind you once again of the prophetic word that Kim Clement gave last year: NOTHING! NOTHING! NOTHING! and then SUDDENLY!

Blessings on you.
Eagle1

VIC1 POST, 14 JULY

7-14-2012  Newshound Guru Vic1   Shabibi says I'm lifting the 000's from the market place!!! So less "supply" will mean a HIGHER Value of his currency!!!   the WTO has lowered qualification to inter the WTO.  That date is July 25, 2012!  Not saying that is the date...however...That date is very encouraging to me!   The CBI set up 4 other CBI offices around the country, they have 5.  "IF" your Currency is NOT going to BE WORTH The Paper IT is PRINTED ON WHY would you SPEND money on More CBI LOCATIONS then Begin plans ON a NEW CBI H/Q for 500MILLION dollars!!!   IT TELLS ME MONEY BE GET'S MONEY!!!  Ramadan!!! It starts on july 20th.  I did not say RV cannot happen before, during or after!  It can happen at any moment!!

SOONERFAN POST, 14 JULY

[Soonerfan62] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, WANT TO START OFF TONIGHT BY SAYING THE INTEL PROVIDERS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS JOURNEY FOR QUIET A WHILE DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT IS BEING SAID ON THE SITES. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HARMONY BETWEEN PROVIDERS FROM AT LEAST 4 SITES THAT I HAVE TALKED TO TODAY. WE ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER AND I FOR ONE AM PROUD OF ALL THESE GUYS AND GALS. VERY FEW INTEL PROVIDERS ARE COMING ON THE SITES NOW BUT NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SILENCED BUT BECAUSE WE WOULD RATHER WORK FOR YOU IN BETTER WAYS, GATHERING INTEL. JUST BECAUSE I AM THE ONE COMING ON THE MOST OFTEN MEANS NOTHING. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT MOST OF MY FELLOW PROVIDERS BELIEVE THAT I WONT PUT ANY OF THEM OR YOU IN BAD SITUATION WITH YOUR INVESTMENT. GUYS I HAVE WORKED WITH MANY PEOPLE IN MY LIFE BUT WILL SAY, I HAVE NEVER WORKED WITH A BETTER GROUP OF PEOPLE EVER. WHEN I FINALLY POST THIS, I WANT NO ONE SAYING THANKS SOONERFAN62, I WANT YOU TO SAY THANKS TO THE "TEAM" FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE BRING. ALSO A SPECIAL THANKS TO MY FRIEND FOOTFORWARD FOR THE INTEL HE BROUGHT THIS AFTERNOON. THE LONG ROAD IS ALMOST OVER AND YES MOST OF US WILL BE HERE POST RV. .

PHOENIX POST, 14 JULY

7-14-2012 Phoenix3333: "Iraq is meeting with the UN Security Council Thursday, July 19th, 2012. 9:45 AM - 10:45 AM Security Council Media Stakeout (Consultations on the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI). 10:00 AM - 11:00 AM Security Council Meeting: Briefing on the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI)"

UNITEDRICH POST, 14 JULY


7-14-2012 Unitedrich (Dinar Vets): Personally, I will not be sidetracked by negative thinking, or negative thoughts, but keep my "Eye on the prize" because after all my years of research, my personal opinion is that we are at the culmination of this event being over by the end of 2012. (And I would like to add, that the event will be in our favor).

CALL NOTES FROM DAN, 14 JULY

[Lauren305] Dan says we are close but no telling what the day will be. And to say it has to be by the 19th (Ramadan) is to say its in Iraq's hands, so that's not accurate either. Feels even Warren Buffet or Bill gates do NOT know the day. It's a POWER issue not a MONEY issue, though money means power, it's not that.

[Lauren305] Dan says we are past the time of believing or not believing in the RV, it's more a time of making sure you dont get screwed out of your iqd.

[Lauren305] Seems there are quite a few scams out there trying to take your iqd. Am I the only one here? geez, I must not have a life then... some of you lurkers talk to me!!!!

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 14 JULY

7-14-2012  Newshound Guru Phoenix3333   Iraq is meeting with the UN Security Council Thursday, July 19th, 2012. 9:45 AM - 10:45 AM Security Council Media Stakeout (Consultations on the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI). 10:00 AM - 11:00 AM Security Council Meeting: Briefing on the United Nations Assistance Mission for Iraq (UNAMI)" 

7-14-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy    I believe this is all part of a well-orchestrated plan and while the IQD will not be the world's savior by any means, it does present a unique opportunity for the Central Banks to rebalance the system and use this currency as an adjustment tool or stimulus during this global financial crisis. In this respect, a significant revaluation somewhere on par with the USD gains a bit more tenability. If all the reports out of the CBI lately are true, one way or another Iraq will be added to the history books in 2012 and my research has led me to believe that it will be a VERY "large exchange rate event." This is just my opinion, which may or may not be correct. 

7-14-2012  Intel Guru TerryK   JUST GOT THIS...In the streets of Baghdad they are hearing that many changes are coming... That their currency will be made new... And changing...but not how or why.  THIS JUST CAME TO ME VIA THRU A CONTRACTOR IN IRAQ.

7-14-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   They have been making noise about this National Meeting for a little while now...If this...deal being “in the works”...turns out to be the National Conference and if it’s over quickly and with resolution…we could be much closer than anyone realizes.

7-14-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   there are many different mechanisms that lead country's currency to appreciate and all would pale in comparison (both numerically and strategically) to what we believe is on the horizon for the Iraqi dinar. We believe the goal for the IQD is to increase purchasing power, maintain long-term stability and to be a globally traded currency. Although after decades of war there is still much work to be done, the CBI, Finance Committee and IMF have worked to improve the fiscal and political outlook by collaborating with Iraqi Parliament, financial experts along with their international counterparts. The value in the IQD is still there.  Now just as they didn't get to their current value alone, I also don't believe they can recover alone. 

Iraq postpones its currency project to delete zeros to 2014 because it “is not formatted”, 14 july


Iraq postpones its currency project to delete zeros to 2014 because it “is not formatted”

The Currency Newshound Commentary:  The headline above is discouraging if in fact it is true.  However several articles within the past few days have reiterated the CBI’s plan to put the new currency in place at the beginning of the new year (2013)…One actually quoting the Finance Committee who is referenced in this particular article.  So indeed this is confusing if true.  It is a possibility this article could be something to put off speculation while the real plan goes ahead as scheduled or could in fact be true.  We have yet to hear a statement by the CBI or Shabibi on this event.  We will know more as more information is released.
SATURDAY, JULY 14, 2012 17:11
Revealed the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives, Saturday, the postponement of the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency which the central bank had planned to begin by 2014.
A member of the Finance Committee in Parliament MP Magda Abdel-Latif’s ” Twilight News “that” the process of deleting the zeros of the Iraqi currency, which was hoped to begin in the coming year which will linger to the year 2014 “.
It showed that “the demand came from the Secretariat of the Council of Ministers, the Economic Department, the Department because of a belief that the Iraqi environment is now ripe for this process.”
And Abdel-Latif, “The Finance Committee was with this application and that there is a series of actions must be taken to ensure the issuance of currency with high quality.”
She “must take a series of measures to prevent the occurrence of fraud, as occurred in the past experience.”
The Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh Bin, earlier, that the process of switching the currency and delete zeros will not be completed this year and completion will take approximately two years.
Saleh said that “the preparations and preparations for the process of switching the currency and delete zeros began more than a year and will take nearly two years.”
He said the completion of the project to improve the payments and facilitate the circulation of the currency will raise the fact that the process of exchange of currency and its value in improving the domestic and global market, denying caused by any effects on the standard of living of the Iraqi people.
The Finance Committee of the House of Representatives revealed to “Twilight News” earlier this month, for a claim, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, the central bank to wait to remove the zeros from the Iraqi currency, pointing to the presence of many foreign companies are competing for printing the new currency.
http://bit.ly/MriPEY

BLUWOLF POST, 14 JULY


As soonerpatriot has said be careful of your assets and stay away from the scams, I agree with him in both situations (the scams and the info factor), see for weeks now a lot of information about a certain group came to my knowledge, but do not  worry hopefully they have closed there operations now that there cover is of public knowledge.
On the other part  about the info well the fact is that all has been said and is positive till this point. No delays and no problems have occur what so ever, why is it when some that give out date scenarios when they do not occur as inform by them, they come back with a lie to cover up saying there is a glitch or some minor issues occur ( that is why I do not give dates nor rates ) so if some of you folks feel decieved take it out on thows that misinformed you. The truth is all is still positive and on track, we are in a second by second alert, waiting on the phone call for your codes. Now for the naysayers make sure that from this point on you furnish the updated info  for all the good people in all sites because from this point on because of your ignorance and stupitity and your disrespect towards me I hand you over the helm. For all the good people out there do not worry once I get my phone call I will contact the leaders of all sites to inform you, just relax and let things flow, it should be over soon. Well God bless Bluwolf

RUMORS FROM DINARLAND, 14 JULY


[Sparkles] I guess we are still in the best possible position ever, well thats better than going backwards :

[Angel12] Hey guys, it has been speculated that the president was holding this up and it was found out that it wasn't true. That also was stated by Bluwolf, Footforward, Soonerfan and others. He has nothing to do with this being held up. If anything he wants this to happen to help the economy. Sources say

[Angel12] this is all smoke to keep us from knowing the real deal.

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] The problem with this whole thing is that there is several things that happen and people throw it all together and try to make sense of it all, All opinions that tend to be turned to fact because so many people are looking for hope.

[Angel12] Sprinkles I know, we all are tired of the waiting and being told asn, amn, etc. But if you remember, we were not ever suppose to know about this and some PTB still do not want us to receive this, but we know and we will get what has been promised to us

. whitelions] DRAKEFORTRUTH  I belive it is in iraq hands there money ther gov. there rv
woodguy 6250] imperium Agree to many countries, to much money involved countries to let Iraq have control. Making it look to the world that they do but others are pulling the strings

[nutzo] imperium I believe looking back in history, no conquered nation is in charge of its money, it all comes down to the mega-bankers, they decide who, what , when, look back at the british empire, not just after ww1 and ww2, they rule the world, we are just peasents

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] I know alot of people mean well, but as the gurus say, their is so much involved with this and I hope eventually when it is all done, sombody has the guts to write a book about what was going on

[citizensoldier] If you think the IQD will never RI or RV you don't know currency

[wittsend] citizensoldier And if you think it will RV for a buck, like some do, you don't understand the purpose of it.

[Dinarian] Why are we still talking about the rates. Be happy at whatever rate it comes out to.

 [nutzo] wittsend the powers in charge have been in charge for 3oo years, we are just pawns, in all wars there is one groupe that win no matter what happens, they are the people who fund both sides of the conflict, and then lend money to rebuild the countries after it, (then they start all over again)

[whitelions] woodguy 6250 in the end we all get what we want the real question here is when and how much and nobody not the gurus not the people that fallow the news and gov. inclouding me know when that will happen but when it dose we are going to party lol

[nutzo] larryc and another quote " what is the point of being in politics if we cant make money from it" (lord Manchester 1642)

DRAKEFORTRUTH] I just hope that everybody on here, signs up for secret millionaire after we cash out , thats what will make the world better

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] its the tv show were a millionaire goes to a bad part of towns, investigates organizations are people that need help and donates monies to them

[DRAKEFORTRUTH] I think that would be the greatest feeling in the world, based on what I have seen on the show

[whitelions] DRAKEFORTRUTH we don't have to do that we can do it in our own villages ,towns , citys . go to the poorest schools find out what they need nad help them to get it becuse if we start the change in schools when the kids are young even if we only help 10 kid they will help the next 10 and so on

[wittsend] citizensoldier I think it was Albert einstein who once said, "there are only two things that I know are infinite, the universe and people's stupidity. And I."'m not certain about the universe

[Precious] tommyk: 7-13-2012 CaptJohn: The mere fact that Iraq is already outpacing Iran in oil production should speak to the vast reserves, both proven and under exploration, that Iraq has. If the value of the dinar is to ultimately reflect the sum total of the country's underlying asset values (oil, gold, natural resources, etc.), then it might well be an anomaly in terms of historic national currency revaluations.

Precious] 7-13-2012 Arthur: "90% of intl trade are member of the WTO" You can bet that Chapter 7 and Ascension into the WTO were included in those High Level Meetings. These are things that they are doing. They are on-going all part of what we need to get to where we need to be. You can see the progression seeing a robust economy. I always go back to what the CBI is doing, laws being passed, Shabibi doing things in order to get us where they and we need to be. We know part of that is going to indeed soon be the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar.

[BGG] This could be the shortest fast in history (which I promise - I had no prior knowledge of - it would be purely God's favor)...from Sunday nite till I wake up Monday morning  

[BGG] Blog is up (I'll be adding to it all day - amazing amounts of good news).

[BGG] If they are planning on doing the 2013 Budget in "new Dinars" - they better start the process pretty soon.

SOONERPATRIOT CHAT,14 JULY


07/14/2012
  [sooner patriot] Good Evening Folks. Hope everyone is in a TGIRV festive mood! Please bear with me as I post this. I’m not able to participate in Q & A afterwards, but hope you’ll understand.

[motorcitymark] kids good

[sooner patriot] Lots of great intel today and I’m still trying to confirm some very positive intel that is almost too good to believe. That’s why we intel providers always seem so reserved. We’re always confirming everything we hear and every day we find most rumors are nothing more than smoke.

[andisgram1] top_gun Post quick!!!

[sooner patriot] It seems that more and more wild tales are finding their ways into the chat rooms, IM’s, and e-mails. I’m so concerned that some of you may fall for the snake-oil salesmen out there who offer something too good to be true. So I want to discuss this with you for a moment.

[sooner patriot] I’ve heard of several people who have been charming others, only to really be getting closer in order to ask to pool your dinars with them for exchanging – some say they’ll invest yours and their dinars and make millions for both of you.

[sooner patriot] What that usually means is they’ll take yours, put it with theirs, and you’ll never see or hear from that person again. And these people are slick, could charm the savviest person out there, and often do. This investment is a feeding ground for the sharks. Trust me, they’re out there.

[sooner patriot] And don’t think they’re only male sharks. There are probably just as many female sharks out there.

11:01 PM [sooner patriot] If someone seems to be a bit pushy or aggressive to obtain your e-mail address, gives you his or hers and expects you to do the same, or they ask for your    number out of the blue, they may want something else.

11:01 PM [sooner patriot] We are near the end on this endeavor. I know it’s been said many times before. But there are certain events that have taken place over the last few days that make this time different than any of those times before.

11:01 PM [sooner patriot] Back in January, when many gurus were falsely calling go/no-go decision points in the release process as the RV, it was only because they didn’t understand that part of the process.

11:02 PM [sooner patriot] This complex of an    has never taken place and never have we had a global reset unless the dinosaurs did it before we arrived. So it is understandable why mistakes have been made in being able to understand and predict this Re-Valuation process.

11:02 PM [sooner patriot] It’s like men understanding women. About the time men start understanding women, the women hold a convention and change the rules. It’s been like that for this RV. The rules for this game have been made up as we go, and nobody outside where we are fully understands it.

11:02 PM [sooner patriot] But as time has progressed, we’ve learned some of the nuances of this beast and we have learned a lot about how this complex process is being put together. The PTBs have been very secretive and even now, there is so much we don’t know about what has happened behind the curtains.

11:02 PM [sooner patriot] That’s why there have been so many false positives, so many times the intel providers have cried wolf. It wasn’t that they enjoyed seeing everyone’s reactions. They have seen events take place that they thought meant it was time, and several times it’s been an eyelash from happening.

11:02 PM [sooner patriot] With that in mind, several intel providers have seen very positive things the past few days that have all of us on alert. We know we are close, but there is no way of knowing exactly when it will happen. I wish I could say it is within an hour or that we’ll be in the banks on this day.

11:03 PM [sooner patriot] Unfortunately, the complexity of this endeavor prohibits any of us outside the inner circle from accurately projecting the timing or the rates. You keep asking, but neither you nor the intel providers can influence either variable. It’s an event we as investors have no control over.

11:03 PM [sooner patriot] All I can tell you tonight is, many indicators that we intel providers look for are pointing in a very positive way, there are no known negatives, and no known holdups. We are near the conclusion of this quest. All of us are exhausted, but we can’t let our guards down to the sharks.

11:03 PM [sooner patriot] Stay alert, don’t be paranoid, but be vigilant. If you feel someone is possibly trying to coerce you into a situation that could be a scam, let one of the mods know, explain what has happened, and let them assist you.

11:03 PM [sooner patriot] We are too close to the goal line for us to fumble our blessing now. Take it into the    end zone yourself and don’t let go of your dinars/dongs until a verified bank person is ready to trade currency for a deposit slip.

11:03 PM [sooner patriot] When that happens, I know your heart will be beating wildly, you’ll want to scream far and wide, but you must act like you’ve been in the end zone before. A smile is OK, but no wild screaming or no T-shirts proclaiming you are rich. The sharks are still out there, so remain vigilant.

11:04 PM [sooner patriot] God Bless Everyone, take care of your needs and your family’s needs, but don’t forget to Pay IT Backwards and Forwards. If you can afford to give more than 10% there’s no rule that says you have to stop at 10%.

11:04 PM [sooner patriot] There are lots of needy people out there, you can’t help all of them by yourself, but hopefully we Dinarians will show what class acts we are and we will set a mark in giving that will go down in the annals of mankind as the most phenomenal time man has ever known.

11:04 PM [sooner patriot] This is an historic event and you’re a part of it only if you carry your Dinar/VND across the goal line. I pray that all of you look upon this as the greatest time of your life – the first day of the rest of your new life. This is YOUR MOMENT! Don’t let anyone steal it from you. This is your day.

11:04 PM [sooner patriot] Thanks for your attention. I love all of you and enjoy this day and this weekend!

SWFLORIDAGUY POST, 14 JULY


7-14-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   there are many different mechanisms that lead country's currency to appreciate and all would pale in comparison (both numerically and strategically) to what we believe is on the horizon for the Iraqi dinar. We believe the goal for the IQD is to increase purchasing power, maintain long-term stability and to be a globally traded currency. Although after decades of war there is still much work to be done, the CBI, Finance Committee and IMF have worked to improve the fiscal and political outlook by collaborating with Iraqi Parliament, financial experts along with their international counterparts. The value in the IQD is still there.  Now just as they didn't get to their current value alone, I also don't believe they can recover alone. 

BGG CHAT, 14 JULY


Jul 14 8:13 AM  coolSpot] rlsunsfan OK, BGG's fast starts on Sunday night. 30 days or until the national conference

[BGG] DOUBLE B - could be the shortest fast in history (which I promise I had no prior knowledge of - purely God's favor)...from Sunday nite till I wake up Monday morning lol

BGG] But in my world - God really is THAT GOOD!!

[h-spot] so the nat conf that we've all been so 'patiently'( :? ) waiting for is scheduled for Monday? Did I read that right?

BGG] h-spot - the news is looking good for it. We'll see.

 [BGG] ironic, don't you think??

[BGG] h-spot - I'm going to give you my "secret formula" to exejeting Middle Eastern news feeds...I picked up from a biblical scholar.
[BGG] figure out who is talking....

 [BGG] what they are really trying to say...

 [BGG] and who they are talking to...

[h-spot] that would make a huge difference in how many people get discouraged if most of these "gurus" did that

[BGG] Do that - and it will keep you out of the "theological ditches".

BGG] Now you all know my secret ;)

[Sugar Pie] BGG, what will you ingest on your very short fast? Liquids?

[h-spot] Sugar Pie emphasis on "short" :} let's hope

 [Sugar Pie] for sure, very short

 [BGG] Sugar Pie - but only if I get up in the middle of the night on Sunday lol

[BGG] kidding. ;)

[Sugar Pie] no sleepeating!

[h-spot] BGG I think you had your confidence in this prior to making that vow of fasting ;)

[BGG] h-spot - not even, but I am very thankful for the news....that much is true.

 [h-spot] BGG well, maybe in the back or you mind then, subconciously ;)

 [BGG] h-spot - In fact, I have a history of making "the impossible stand" - it's my MO ;)

 [h-spot] BGG how can we get all those ticklish people that follow the gurus to come here now?? Hopefully it won't matter in a few days, and everyone can just chalk it up to themselves being right, huh

 [BGG] h-spot - I should rephrase "God has a history of making those 'impossible stands' for me" - there, I got it right. ;)

[h-spot] in the end, who cares who was right about this or not

[BGG] h-spot - exactly - who cares??

Director of Central Bank of Kurdistan calls to speed up currency reform, says 100% correct policy “better today than tomorrow”, 14 july


Director of Central Bank of Kurdistan calls to speed up currency reform, says 100% correct policy “better today than tomorrow”

Central Kurdistan seeking to overturn a primer edition and the inclusion of the Kurdish language in the new currency
Posted 14/07/2012 08:52 AM
Babinaoz (Reuters) – called the Central Bank of Kurdistan, Saturday, to speed up printing Iraqi currency zeros deleted and the inclusion of the Kurdish language to the new edition and to abolish the “Bremer edition” issued in the circumstances “exceptional.”
And through the Director General of the Central Bank in the Kurdistan Region Adham Kareem told to “Twilight News” his belief that “the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency sound process,” pointing to the possibility of the existence of frequency by the businessmen and investors about the process. “
Karim stressed that “the process is 100% correct,” adding that “even if it does not Nhzvha in the meantime that we do this step after ten years to come, this process must be carried out and today is better than tomorrow.
He justified why ask him to remove the zeros from the Iraqi dinar that “this coin issued in exceptional circumstances and when issued were called belong Bremer,” noting that “he should normalize Iraqi currency and without zeros and be binding on the deal and that the Iraqi Central Bank by selecting it with the U.S. dollar.”
The Director of the Central Bank of Kurdistan, “The Kurdistan demanded the inclusion of the Kurdish language to the new Iraqi currency as well as Arabic and English,” stressing “that the second component of the Kurds in the country and a force for the Iraqi currency.” And was scheduled to begin the Central Bank to change the current currency boiled new zeros to be deleted that a request may defer the government to wait to initiate change. The Department of Antiquities in the Kurdistan Region of Iraq has been nominated earlier in the week Nhoashrh archaeological sites in the province to put pictures on the new edition of the Iraqi currency.
http://bit.ly/MofQASTheCurrencyNewshound
Alternate translation:
Central Kurdish demands to cancel and insert Edition primer Kurdish language in new currency
Date posted 14/07/2012 08:52 AM
Babnioz-agencies: Central Bank called Kurdistan, Saturday, to speed up the printing of Iraqi currency and zeros omitted to include Kurdish language on new edition and uninstall “Edition” issued in “exceptional” circumstances.
And Central Bank Director in Kurdistan Adham Karim in remarks to “Twilight” believed that “delete zeros of the Iraqi currency valid process,” he said, referring to the possibility of a frequency by businessmen and investors on this process. “
Karim stressed that “the process is correct 100%”, but that “even if you [dont] delete it now, we must do this step after 10 years to come, this process must done today is better than tomorrow”.
He justified his reason to delete zeros from Iraqi dinar currency “issued in exceptional circumstances and when released it was called the” Edition, noting that “Iraqi currency must print and without zeros and be binding on the deal and that the Central Bank of Iraq with the US dollar it.”
The Central Bank of Kurdistan “Kurdistan called for the inclusion of Kurdish language on new Iraqi currency alongside Arabic and English languages”, saying “the fact that the second component in the country’s Kurdish and supportive of the Iraqi currency. The Central Bank begins to change current currency to new ciphers deleted to await a Government motion may postpone initiation of change. The Department of Antiquities in Iraq Kurdistan region had nominated earlier last week in the territory nhoasharh archaeological places to put images on the new edition of the Iraqi currency.
http://bit.ly/LWVNVC

CBI: Speculative project cost to delete the zeros up to 172 billion dinars; Provides 3 reasons for currency reform, 14 july


CBI: Speculative project cost to delete the zeros up to 172 billion dinars; Provides 3 reasons for currency reform


07/14/2012
The Iraqi Central Bank estimated cost speculative project to delete the zeros from the currency up to 172 billion dinars ..
The study by a private project delete the zeros received / JD / copy: The total cost of speculative to project the deletion of zeros up to a hundred and seventy-two billion dinars, “..
the bank said in his study that the wages of transport and insurance of the role of copyright to the Baghdad International Airport up to (140), calculated on the basis of the ratio between the highest and lowest price (90-189) billion dinars from the presentations made by companies ..
He added that “the cost of speculative Stamping coins of the new currency of (16) billion dinars,” the bank ..
He continued, “The wages of cargo , Fridays and official holidays, overtime, etc. .. of (15) billion dinars “..
He pointed out that the cost of the media campaign and the costs of different limits (1) billion dinars,
the bank recalled the cost of the replacement process for the period from 15/10/2003 to 15 / 4/2004 amounted to the wages of the printing and transfer of currency to (240) dinars, and wages of minting coins up to (16) billion dinars, and a ring of total costs allocated to the banks amounted to (13) billion dinars.
and attributed the bank the reasons for the deletion of zeros for three reasons:
First, the process Delete the zeros will be an opportunity to add new features of the Iraqi currency to prevent potential counterfeiting of the new currency through the use of specifications of high security, leading to increased customer confidence (public institutions) as a result of low or no cases of fraud ..
He pointed out that the second reason that the process of removing zeros will to reduce Alokiem digital currency and financial Almahacbah and may reduce the role of time, effort and cost required to complete financial transactions and accounting as well as the possibility of reducing the number of banknotes traded, especially if banknotes were printed large categories “..
He said the third reason Vankh enhances the possibility of maintaining the Iraqi dinar exchange rate against foreign currencies gained the confidence of its customers.
The central bank has decided to adopt some of the features and pictures to be developed on the new currency after deletion of zeros .. And obtained by / JD / a copy of the book’s central bank, which included the historical and cultural landmarks and images to be placed on the implications of the currency close to the mentality of the Iraqi public and culture ..
According to the authors included a paper currency a number of monuments and pictures the most important, put a picture to bridge the imams and the magnitude of the significance of high-value if it reaches the bridge between both sides of the River Tigris and the terminal Mrakadi Imams Musa al-Kazim (AS) and Abu Hanifa (ra) ..
The book entitled the bank to the Directorate General for the issuance and cabinets: This is dedicated to the highest class of the new currency a category (200) two hundred dinars and the dinars on the back of this paper and put a picture of the Baghdad school ..
He said the central bank: put on the face of the category (100) dinars, hundred dinars, pictures of Azwaip area in Baghdad, one of the areas which was set up by the ancient suspension bridge, one of the achievements of the Iraqi state ..
Iraq is one of the leading countries in the establishment of this type of bridges, shown in the image building of the Iraqi Central Bank, in addition to the building of the University of Baghdad, is the oldest scientific institution in Iraq in the second half of the twentieth century, while placed on the back of the paper image (ziggurat), one of the features of construction Iraq at the dawn of history ..
According to the book’s central bank: put on the face of the paper of class (50) JD (fifty dinars) image of the King Codaa one of the most kings of the dynasty of Lagash II (King XII), a God of growth and fertility, while the back of the paper have included a picture of Fort Ukhaydir a Fort archaeological its construction dates back to the Abbasid era forts and defensive unique in a deserted area, such as those constructed in which this fort is located to the south-west of the city of Karbala ..
The central bank said: that in the face of the banknote (25) dinars (twenty five dinars) was developed, the image of King Hammurabi receiving the law .. This is the spiritual father of the King humanitarian legislation, as written in the custody of the rules governing the life and transactions in the famous Mselth either the back of the paper have included a picture of a peasant of Iraqi Kurdistan with the help of men in the preparation of the field of agriculture ..
He said the central bank: put on the face of the banknote (10) dinars (ten dinars), a dinar, the Arab-Muslim This is a dinar, which was minted in the reign of the Umayyad dynasty beginning of the circulation of money in the Islamic state, which hit the inside and one features of the state and its sovereignty and economic independence, The back of the paper has developed a picture of the lighthouse Hadba in Mosul, one of the landmark development of excellence in our beloved Iraq ..
Either category (5) dinars (five dinars) was placed on the face of her paper image of a waterfall entirely on Beck in Kurdistan Iraq, a reference to the state’s interest in water and its sources in addition to the interest in tourism and the environment either the back of the paper has developed a picture of a palm Iraq, a sign of a property for each land black from southern Iraq to the north and to honor the (aunt Palm), said Mustafa (peace be upon him) and the central bank said in writing: in line with the best applications and international experiences, he decided to stop the basic parameters of the currency notes of the categories (25000,10000,5000) JD Traded to the road as it is in the new series (25,10,5) dinars to enable the audience with her as a thousand imprinted in his memory.
The bank was keen to choose the designs of the coins are the generality and comprehensiveness of significance, and have a positive impact on all the people of Iraq, where he put on the aspects of coins map of Iraq and highlights where the Tigris and the Euphrates, and the center of the map a circular area to install the coin mineral, while the other side of coins have included, first class (2) JD’s image (the Monastery of Saint Matthew), a historical site and my soul is located in the north of Iraq, and taken by the Iraqis of different sects and religions shrine to seek blessings and tourism. Included in category (1) BD image and reality are inspired from the displacement of Kurds Faili designed and prepared the Ministry of Culture. Has been developed on the category (500) fils image to fill a modern on the River Euphrates, and was intended to highlight the importance of water and means of storage and organization in Iraq, and on the category (250) fils putting pictures to fill Kut on the Tigris River, for the same purpose, and put on a category (100 fils), a picture of a lion Babylon, symbol of the power and vigor of the nation of Iraq. and put on a class (50) fils a picture of the palm, the symbol of Mesopotamia. and class (25) fils put a picture of the Ishtar Gate in memory of great Iraqis.
http://bit.ly/Nsh2QP

Finance Committee: Delete the zeros of the local currency begins early next year, 14 july


Finance Committee: Delete the zeros of the local currency begins early next year

Diyala, July 14 (Rn) – The parliamentary Finance Committee, on Saturday, that the process of replacing the currency and delete zeros of which will be gradually beginning next year, noting that the process takes two years to three.
A member of the Committee and the representative of the Iraqi List Auzmn Hassan, told the Kurdish news agency (Rn) that the Iraqi Central Bank will begin to withdraw the current currency early next year,gradually and keep the current currency trading to give citizens enough time to replace the currency. “
He Auzmn replace the currency and delete zeros experience a successful and useful for the Iraqi economy through their success in a number of other countries, pointing out that “the process will contribute to ease carrying banknotes to the citizen will not have any negative impact on the Iraqi economy (according to him).
Auzmn did not rule out attempts to falsify the new currency adding: security measures to be taken to defend the currency will be identified easily from the old currency and the new currency.
The parliamentary Finance Committee announced in early July that the current 2013 budget next year will be the new currency after deleting three zeros from the currency, saying that the current reluctance of traders and companies from trading in Iraqi currency behind the adoption of the Central Bank of the project to delete the zeros.
According to some economists that Iraq is ready for the time being to delete the zeros of the Iraqi dinar, pointing out that the deletion needs to be a security and political stability as well as economic stability.
http://bit.ly/PTUUBX