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Saturday, July 7, 2012

BWM CHAT, 8 JULY


hawaii50: Bwm, Sir, what can you tell us...good news? 

BWM: hawaii50 I don't have any bad news... basically just know there are things moving (mostly politically incorrect) that are trying to be resolved for our best interests... this isn't a good person vs. bad person thing... this is more just about greed and he who blinks last thing...

BWM: it's come to that desperate time when many are looking for any little opportunity to get thing done and out of this investment... I feel your burden but use common sense when determining is something sounds legit or not. I have put out there several times the last couple of weeks, ask your guru if they've been to reno to cash out... that should tell you all you need to know. They are there for two reasons, A. to take care of themselves (oh you know, they had to "check it out" for you) or they were stupid enough to buy into the scam in the first place...
strongbow: BWM That is really down to earth common sense isn't it?

BWM: strongbow the pull is strong... let's face it. If someone offered you umpteen hundred dollars for every dinar you had, you'd think about it... and sometimes that desperation overcomes the idea that it doesn't make sense... why would someone pay that amount for your dinar when they could go to DB and buy it for pennies on the dollar.. but somehow, ppl convince themselves with some distorted logic that clouds their judgement

hawaii50: Common sense that we deal only in person with WF or a bank of your choice.

BWM: hawaii50 absolutely... you know... that woman that stands at the tent and says COME, let me read your fortune... which is gypsy for, "There's a sucker born every minute"

 shalala: Listen to BWM guys. He is here to protect you. People do stupid things for money. He is teaching you how to think wisely. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. This is a great investment opportunity, just stick to the fundamentals of why it makes sense. This site is here to help yu to do that!

 BWM: IF I felt comfortable enough with things going on someplace, I'd tell you.. tell you I was going there... tell you I was there and things looked good. BUT THERE ARE THOSE THAT ARE THERE, PRETENDING TO BE SOMEWHERE ELSE, A VACATION, A DOCTOR VISIT, A FAMILY EMERGENCY... the sad reality is they just care about themselves and while I realize that I can't/won't hold your hand thru this process... I would at least be upfront enough about a situation to determine if we were "DONE"...

  bcrt: BWM sounds like there are rats in other areas of this dinar adventure!  

dietcokeandice: bcrt that is what I'm thinking  

BWM: dietcokeandice: what do these gurus have to gain? there is always two opportunities for ppl.. first, to bring "in" ppl and get a percentage of the amount of dinar brought in. Second, it's just the idea of being first (not that we know anyone like that)... part of the "scam" has been that ppl would only be able to cash out in reno BUT not at a bank... REALLY? an international event in the United States that does NOT go thru any banks? I hardly think so...

  bcrt: BWM you are involved in sport, you now there are many that crave being first, no matter the means of getting there!

BWM: bcrt that's why sportsmanship was invented... you can win and ppl still think your a jerk... and at some point... nobody picks the jerk no matter how good he/she is

 dietcokeandice: BWM thank you for your honest answer---I wondered about the % thing because of the hype 1 year ago I was coaught up in it KATT kept saying don't buy what you can't afford

BWM: dietcokeandice I was hoping you were gonna ask me the easiest question out there... but that's ok

 wittsend: BWM We've discussed Reno recently. It's disconcerting on so many planes that some gurus have so little sense and so much greed as to think Reno is the answer.

BWM: wittsend just let's you know why they are in it... and how much reliability you can get from what they say... how many of you would believe someone saying "it's happening now" if you knew they were getting their info from a scam artist in reno telling them they would be cashing out shortly... after they had been there for 3 Weeks!

briarpatch1: what's the deal with Reno?   

BWM: briarpatch1 reno has regulations that allow a bit more "freedom" for those looking to expedite financial gain... it is also one of the largest office segments for a big 4 bank...       

bcrt: BWM In your opinion, Should we be looking for the train to get to the station, plane to land or graduation ceremony soon???

BWM: bcrt you should be hoping your not looking the wrong direction when some (insert state abbreviation here) manure falls in your path...    

BWM: for every great invention or event in the history of mankind, there were countless failures and missteps along the way that help strengthen the steps of those who traveled the path...      

 briarpatch1: heard part of a call earlier from Blaino saying that Hammerman had been to Reno and he was severing ties with him and about a dishonest atty, etc 

BWM: briarpatch1 took me three days to figure out what took Blaino almost a year... intelligence can be measured we know...

 dietcokeandice: BWM i think of Jim Jones ---some guru are worhipped

BWM: dietcokeandice least he was offering food and beverages... these just want to take your stuff...

  bcrt: BWM windows...anyone looking at windows???

BWM: bcrt I think we've come to the point of just seeing when this can happen, or should I say HOW SOON it can happen... there is nothing that says this is going into next month, next year, etc. That's not to say it couldn't, but there is not reason to look at that at this point IMO

  stevhens777: BWM do you think there will be a cap on the cash out?

BWM: stevhens777 by cap are you referring to time, rate or what? 

stevhens777: BWM a cap on the amount of dinar to cash in.

BWM: stevhens777 heck no... they want all they can get...

BULLDOG POST OF ENCOURAGEMENT, 7 JULY

Bulldog75] Living in Contentment: TODAY’S SCRIPTURE: “...I have Learned to be Content Whatever the Circumstances”: (Philippians 4:11, NIV) TODAY’S WORD from Joel and Victoria: In life, it’s easy to get so focused on our dreams and goals, the things we want, that it consumes us. We can get to the point where we’re not happy, and we’re not going to be happy until it happens.

 But I’ve found that if we have to have something in order to be happy, our lives are out of balance. When our goals and dreams start to frustrate us, and we lose our peace and we’re not enjoying life, that’s a sure sign that we’re holding on too tightly. What’s the solution? You’ve got to release it.

 Freedom comes when you say, “God, I’m turning it all over to You. You know my desires, and You know what’s best for me. I’m choosing to trust You and Your timing.” When we learn to be content whatever the circumstances, the power of the enemy is broken. It takes away his ability to frustrate us. Not only that, but by our actions we are showing our faith in God. 

When you choose to trust in His timing, you can live in peace, you can live in joy, and you can rest in Him, knowing that He has good things in store for your future! A PRAYER FOR TODAY: Heavenly Father, today I choose to trust in You.

 I release frustration over the dreams and desires in my heart, knowing that You know what’s best for me. I choose to trust in Your timing because You are faithful, and I will bless You in all things in Jesus’ name. Amen. — Joel & Victoria Osteen.

RANDY KOONCE POST, 7 JULY

Currency Chatter Conference Call Call:  2:30 Central

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7-7-2012 Randy Koonce: Smart cards have zero to do with the RV. We are still looking for the National Conference once you see that, start getting really happy. They won't announce the RV at the National meeting, they will announce the Ministers & the Stratigic Council. Once those are in place we are done the middle of July is what we are focusing on. If we go into Ramadan, we are still OK. Ramadan is a holiday, but a working holiday. Rate - $3.41, this will make their budget work. Every indication is this is our time.

BLAINO POST UPDATE, 7 JULY

7-7-2012 Blaino: HAPPY SATURDAY! SOME THINK I WAS ON A RANT LAST NIGHT, I WAS!!  I HAVE CLEAR AND IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE LEADING ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT A SCAM IS AFOOT HERE. THERE ARE MANY. THIS ONE IS HITTING US HERE! IT STOPS NOW, TODAY! I WILL COMPLETELY INFORM ALL OF YOU OF ALL THE DETAILS AND YOU WILL THEN BE POSITIONED TO MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION. IF YOU THEN THINK MY CONCERNS WERE UNJUSTIFIED OR THERE WERE OTHER FACTORS INVOLVED, WELL, CALL IT YOUR OPINION AND I WILL MAKE WAR TO INSURE THAT YOU ARE ENTITLED TO IT!!  IF YOU ARE CONCERNED, INTERESTED AND WANT COLD HARD FACTS, JOIN ME ON A CALL IN A FEW HOURS AND GET THE TRUTH! TILL THEN, THERE IS MUCH TO BE DONE AND LOTS OF YOUR CONCERNS TO BE ADDRESSED. SO, KEEP AN OPEN MIND AND I WILL BLOW IT FOR YOU.

BONDLADY CHAT, 7 JULY


BondLady] u know was thinkin bout something the last few days  remember when i said we had a good shot bk in april

[SMOOTH1] BondLady ty im ok
[luckyintx] yes
[campdav] I do
[shunshine] yep

[BondLady] from there 3rd to there 15th if they didnt screw it up or freak out now even after that next window i said we had another shot at was june 15th to july 15th
[campdav] yeppers
[BondLady] see what there doin in these arts again? just like they did in april
[luckyintx] postponing 
  [BondLady] an it was confirmed in the arts by the cbi they were gonna do the 000 thing in april an shabibi held off cause they freaked out  said they werent ready  then the last few days  they start doin it again  right at our next window an 3 months later from the last 1  an yesterday shabs comes out  an says how patient the cbi has been an tryin to comply with the gov an give them time to do what they need to do before shabs does what he needed to do

[BondLady] so if im right  then shabs is settin this to go again like before an they are in there classic freak out mode right before any thing goes active just sayin its a real possibility

[campdav] Very interesting

[BondLady] understand?

[BondLady] Al-Shabibi, Maliki discuss wait to switch currency 2012-07-07 Baghdad/JD/...The Central Bank official letter to Cabinet includes pros switch currency ... She is a member of the parliamentary Finance Committee and MP for the Liberal block Magda El-Tamimi/JD/that "Central Bank Governor Sinan Al-Shabibi met with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and spoke about the wait to switch currency and delete the zeros and the money supply.".

Tamimi said "that the Central Bank in an official letter to the Cabinet of Ministers ensures the pros switch currency and delete the zeros to reduce the money supply and to facilitate business processes and other" ... And remedied "but the cabinet so far has not responded to the Bank's book.".

Tamimi said "the Government supports the Finance Committee to wait till the present time not suitable for switching currency, we fear the emergence of counterfeit currency dealers Division.".

According to the parliamentary Finance Committee member and MP for the Liberal block "switch currency after 2003 witnessed the emergence of economic Division and dealers were counterfeit currency in the market, maybe switch currency at the moment is in addition to the money supply will grow more.".

The Central Bank has said in the past week put new Iraqi currency after deleting zeros in January. Central Bank Governor Sinan Al-Shabibi/JD/"Bank will put up new Iraqi currency after deleting three zeros in 1/1/2013.".

[BondLady] The Central Bank Governor said "there are many procedures and many misgivings on its implementation of the Bank is keen to be a safe and easy exchange.". The parliamentary Finance Committee revealed earlier Central Bank contracted with major companies to print the currency of high quality paper.

" She is a member of the parliamentary Finance Committee Magda Tamimi "cost actions devoted to switch currency at 150 million dollars. She noted that the "switch currency withdrawals be gradual through the check-in process at banks," "currency be withdrawn gradually and not once as in the previous switch.".

Tamimi noted that "the Finance Committee as a follow-up to the work of the Central Bank and abreast of what is going on with the printing of the new Iraqi currency.

"The Finance Committee member of" parliamentary speech, "Central Bank Governor Sinan Al-Shabibi" deposit in banks when switching the currency would be in one place and controlled to protect the currency from counterfeiting.

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[BondLady] no where in this art does shabs say he wont do it as he did bk in april imo he gave them 3 more months to do what they needed

[BondLady] Central Bank Governor Sinan Al-Shabibi met with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and spoke about the wait to switch currency and delete the zeros and the money supply.".

[BondLady] talked about delaying it

BondLady] Tamimi said "that the Central Bank in an official letter to the Cabinet of Ministers ensures the pros switch currency and delete the zeros to reduce the money supply and to facilitate business processes and other" ... And remedied "but the cabinet so far has not responded to the Bank's book

BondLady] the goi still hasnt said go ahead with it  and there are reasons why for this more than just throwin caution to the wind

[BondLady] i think many have the wrong idea an maybe not ill explain more after we get thru this art

[BondLady] Tamimi said "the Government supports the Finance Committee to wait till the present time not suitable for switching currency, we fear the emergence of counterfeit currency dealers Division.".

According to the parliamentary Finance Committee member and MP for the Liberal block "switch currency after 2003 witnessed the emergence of economic Division and dealers were counterfeit currency in the market, maybe switch currency at the moment is in addition to the money supply will grow more.".

The Central Bank has said in the past week put new Iraqi currency after deleting zeros in January.

[BondLady] the gov an the finance commitee wants to wait till its more economically stable shoulda did what shabs said to do if they wanted a good rate all in the last 5 yrs instead of power struggles an no 1 givin a inch or lettin hate rule ur bloc an decisions

[BondLady] should have supported iraq an not self motives which they are still doing even within these delays delays in every thing  its all about greed and power

[BondLady] Central Bank Governor Sinan Al-Shabibi/JD/"Bank will put up new Iraqi currency after deleting three zeros in 1/1/2013.".

BondLady] will put up new Iraqi currency after deleting three zeros in 1/1/2013."

[BondLady] after

[BondLady] The Central Bank Governor said "there are many procedures and many misgivings on its implementation of the Bank is keen to be a safe and easy exchange.". The parliamentary Finance Committee revealed earlier Central Bank contracted with major companies to print the currency of high quality paper. " She is a member of the parliamentary Finance Committee Magda Tamimi "cost actions devoted to switch currency at 150 million dollars

[BondLady] there are many procedures and many misgivings on its implementation

[BondLady] Bank is keen to be a safe and easy exchange."

[grashopa] .......exactly..........."after"

[BondLady] forcin the people to have to put there trusts in the banks again

[BondLady] forcin them to use banks again instead of under there matttresses

[BondLady] in order to get the ld's with a new rate imo they have to have a bank account

[BondLady] She noted that the "switch currency withdrawals be gradual through the check-in process at banks," "currency be withdrawn gradually and not once as in the previous switch.". Tamimi noted that "the Finance Committee as a follow-up to the work of the Central Bank and abreast of what is going on with the printing of the new Iraqi currency. "The Finance Committee member of" parliamentary speech, "Central Bank Governor Sinan Al-Shabibi" deposit in banks when switching the currency would be in one place and controlled to protect the currency from counterfeiting.http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http://www.dananernews.com/News_Details.php%3FID%3D1194

BondLady] to be witdrawn gradually not like it was back in oct 15th 2003 to an 15 2004only a 3 month window then wont be nothing like that and its not gonna go 2 to 10 yrs at 1166 either

[BondLady] they have a ton of money commin in an not goin out and the more money they have commin in just sittin around the more inflation rises hyper super inflation

BondLady] they cant just sit on this 1166 forever

[BondLady] now why would the goi not want shabs to bring on the new currency

[BondLady] from the articles its like shabs when hed say stuff about turkey when they remved there 000they did lop an he kept bringin that up  an the goi started fightin him then when he would say about turkeys bank stuff

[BondLady] so what if the goi whhich greed motivates them all just as much as power what if shabs rate wasnt enough for there likeing  what if there greediness wants more

[BondLady] they are sayin we need to wait to do this till the economy an infrastructure is more stable

[BondLady] well shabs been tellin them that for 5 yrs why they so concerned now like its new they want the rate to go right bk to what it was before and who wouldn’t i sure do too

[BondLady] but economically can they pull that off they screw up more than they fix daily

[BondLady] they wasted 5 millon dollars every single day by not exporting or usein the gas they burn off every single day  5 millon every single day burning  every 24 hours 5 millon dollars down the old iraqi trash can

[BondLady] in a 10 yr time

[grashopa] they have to be able to capture that gas............

[BondLady] every single iraqi could have had there own 5 millon usd from this waste

BondLady] they need to make it a whole lot easier for investors to come in an do all this stuff for them

[BondLady] then they could just set bk an rake in all the cash they lose ev day

[BondLady] there people should be the richest in the world

[BondLady] not 1 single person in iraq hould be wanting for anything

[BondLady] but because they are so afraid some 1 will get 1 over on them or get a bigger piece of pie than them or have a ounce more of power than them

[BondLady] they cant see past it they fight

[BondLady] so what if shabs just wanted a lil rate an let the supply an demand drive it up while they concentrated more on infrastructure an private sector an the economy

[BondLady] this imo is why the goi hasnt jumped on board let shabs say ok do this

[BondLady] sit the gov completly an start passin all these inv estment laws  pass the hcl an empliment 100% the art 140 an ill reinstate the currency bk to what it was an watch the $ signs pop into there eyes as they would rush in to get a lot of this stuff done

[BondLady] if there gonna take 5 millon from other countries to stall or bring down the gov

 an not suport there own country and its people would that do it for them goi is delayin givein there blessin for this to shabs because of imo greed they are not happy with what he wants done with the rate nor do they wanna do the work to get the great rate or work fast enought to pull it off

[BondLady] greed and power is alive and well in Iraq anywhos just thot id throw that out theres reasons behind all these delays an procrastinations some think its bad some thinks its good

[BondLady] but the number 2 things that motivates iraq and theres no denying that is greed and powerBondLady] the currecy spellls power and the greed drives them to want better spending power anyways imo to it all we wait an see

Shabibi and Maliki discuss patience during the process of switching the currency, 7 JULY


Shabibi and Maliki discuss patience during the process of switching the currency

2012-07-07
Baghdad/JD/…The Central Bank official letter to Cabinet includes pros switch currency …
She is a member of the parliamentary Finance Committee and MP for the Liberal block Magda El-Tamimi/JD/that “Central Bank Governor Sinan Al-Shabibi met with Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and spoke about the wait to switch currency and delete the zeros and the money supply.”.
Tamimi said “that the Central Bank in an official letter to the Cabinet of Ministers ensures the pros switch currency and delete the zeros to reduce the money supply and to facilitate business processes and other” … And remedied “but the cabinet so far has not responded to the Bank’s book.”.
Tamimi said “the Government supports the Finance Committee to wait till the present time not suitable for switching currency, we fear the emergence of counterfeit currency dealers Division.”.
According to the parliamentary Finance Committee member and MP for the Liberal block “switch currency after 2003 witnessed the emergence of economic Division and dealers were counterfeit currency in the market, maybe switch currency at the moment is in addition to the money supply will grow more.”.
The Central Bank has said in the past week put new Iraqi currency after deleting zeros in January. Central Bank Governor Sinan Al-Shabibi/JD/”Bank will put up new Iraqi currency after deleting three zeros in 1/1/2013.”.
The Central Bank Governor said “there are many procedures and many misgivings on its implementation of the Bank is keen to be a safe and easy exchange.”.
The parliamentary Finance Committee revealed earlier Central Bank contracted with major companies to print the currency of high quality paper. “
She is a member of the parliamentary Finance Committee Magda Tamimi “cost actions devoted to switch currency at 150 million dollars. She noted that the “switch currency withdrawals be gradual through the check-in process at banks,” “currency be withdrawn gradually and not once as in the previous switch.”.
Tamimi noted that “the Finance Committee as a follow-up to the work of the Central Bank and abreast of what is going on with the printing of the new Iraqi currency. “The Finance Committee member of” parliamentary speech, “Central Bank Governor Sinan Al-Shabibi” deposit in banks when switching the currency would be in one place and controlled to protect the currency from counterfeiting
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JUST HOPIN THOUGHTS: The economic and finance committee has agreed with the CBI that now is the time for the currency to be reformed. However some members of the government have yet to jump on board. This article is explaining how Shabibi is more or less explaining the pro's to Maliki to get his support behind the currency reform plan.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 7 JULY

7-7-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru Randy Koonce  Smart cards have zero to do with the RV.  We are still looking for the National Conference...once you see that, start getting really happy.  They won't announce the RV at the National meeting, they will announce the Ministers & the Stratigic Council Once those are in place we are done...the middle of July is what we are focusing on. If we go into Ramadan, we are still OK.  Ramadan is a holiday, but a working holiday.  Rate - $3.41, this will make their budget work.  Every indication is this is our time.

7-7-2012  Newshound Guru Vic1  We are in a stage of completion! Understand...I know many are weary...tired and fed-up!!!  Not my fault or anyones fault! These are money plays...far higher than most of our pay scale!  My friends in China and UK are all over this like flies on...you know what! The Markets are in a VERY "WIERD" formation!  Please take "NOTICE"...we are about to have "FINANCIAL...FREEDOM"! 

7-7-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   if Allawi is the one who questions Maliki it won’t be meant as a “procedure” – but a slap in the face...more likely the actually questioner will be Haider Mulla (a lawyer).  Depending on which guy they use – it will be a perfect “tell” as to their final intentions.

7-7-2012  Newshound Guru Mike  this Oil & Gas Law...it is now front and center...it now has to go forward...I contend that Shabibi needs to know whether or not his contracts that are signed are going to be legal and constitutional...they need to...make sure these oil contracts that they have signed, 45 of them, are going to be legal and that is what they are fighting about in this whole thing.  it is my opinion this is probably all part of what they are negotiating on to get these meetings done...nice to see that these things are on the agenda...it means things are moving forward...Very Very major step.

7-7-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Until some sort of power sharing  is sorted out in Iraq  there will be no revaluation of the IQD.  Any rumor of a rate being much higher than $3.50 is unrealistic.

7-7-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   I really do think there is plenty of positive things we should be focusing on right now. I do believe this investment is solid and there's plenty of reason to be optimistic about the future. The rest is just a distraction. 

7-7-2012  Newshound Guru Mike   The fact that they are putting their investment laws in place and the fact that these huge companies are going to do business with Iraq right now it bodes 100% well not only for our investment but where we are...our investment has bite and backing...very exciting and shows us we are in a very good place.

VIC1 CHAT, 7 JULY


vic1tgk] A quick post!

[vic1tgk] I have received numerous E-mails and Text and Calls.... I need everyones HELP! Anyone that has come to a point of blowing a fuse and or aRadiator cap... or even a Cylinder head gasket.... please listen! We are in a stage of completion! Understand...I know many are weary....tired and fed-up!!! Not my fault or anyones fault! These are money plays...far higher than most of our pay scale! My friends in Chian and UK are all over this like flies on...you know what!

Tell all your friends and family...that no matter how long..........this has taken..... we are in a Financial Revolution....and in that word...."revolution" we find the word...."LOVE" hidden! We need to show MORE...LOVE and compassion more than ever before!

The Markets are in a VERY " WIERD" formation! Please take "NOTICE" ...we are about to have "FINANCIAL....FREEDOM"! Stop all the Negative mind...games! Tell all whom you know that are GIVING up...to STOP!!! Bring back the "THE COURAGE" and FIGHT till THE...END!!! 
NOW is TIME to PUT on and GET into The REAL MIND ...SET of "VICTORY"! No time for LOSERS!!! CUZ 'WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS" DONE....LISTEN....WATCH and LEARN!!! GOD is and Has ALWAYS...BEEN GREAT!!! ARE YOU IN DOUBT? Vic

[3:49:16 PM] Dillon229: [.dc] vic1tgk VICTORY IN JESUS AMEN
[vic1tgk] .dc YES!!! GET That...VICTORY is UPON ..US, ALL!

[kouma1935] Vic, can you confirm that new sanctions have been put on Viet Nam/China and the Dong prospects have taken a hit?
[vic1tgk] kouma1935 I have not heard that? Vietnam is 22 largest and fastest growing...economy

[jesse1775] Vic1tgk sir would you say a tag account would be a great place to put currency into...say the U.S goes to T bills
[vic1tgk] jesse1775 The question you asked...is a FINANCIAL Planning question! Please always refer to Professional Licensed...People! That is my answer! WHY? because an opinion is just that! DO NOT BANK ON OPINIONS!!! PLEASE!!!

[vic1tgk] The TRUTH...will always prevail! All these Hedge Fund managers... and Derivitive creators...surely will say...all kinds of Negative things about ...The "DINAR"... after all the Financial systems are in dissaray is from all their 'GREED"!

 Did anyone...ask the CONGRESS Men or Women...if they really invested in the Facebook...IPO? You know what their answer....would be? No not me! I do not bet on a long shot!!! Because ....they would never...invest ...in Their name! However...their TRUSTS....would! Remember.... as they say..."OWN NOTHING , However, CONTROL EVERYTHING!!!


[vic1tgk] Large CONTRACTS COMPLETED with CHINA...IRAQ..."what a BIG... PLAYER! Folks...YOU'LL SEE...WHO Covers ALL the SHORT COMINGS ...In OIL SOON! IRAQ...will SURPASS and BE the LARGEST...SUPPLIER! WOW!!! THE GREAT USA.... HOW WE JUST.... GET IT DONE!!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! Thanx...HILLARY...your An AWESOME SECRETARY OF STATE!!!

[CrimsonTide] vic1tgk on July 4th Eliot Spitzer had a discussion re the Libor. Are these the corrupt rats that have been spoken about all along?? Or is this some new corruption in the financial world??
[vic1tgk] CrimsonTide NO Name dropping... we have had these rats...in play for a long time! We are building a better... global economy... and guess what? As much as China...manufactures...they are to become larger than USA/EU...consumers!!! So...hold on for the ride!!! ALL IS GOOD!!!

[jesse1775] Vic1tgk sir O was apperantly trying to line his pockets and holding things up, china put an end to it, in your honest opinion why did O refuse the bail out from china?
[vic1tgk] jesse1775 that is the kind of talk...we really need to stay away from! talk in person is different than talking on an open chat!!!

[mickey29] vic1tgk so sir are we still on the nano second time line
[vic1tgk] mickey29 I would not say it ..."IF" man i do not like that word...."IF" I did not believe it!!

[ouison] vic1tgk : probably has been answered, but do you know if the Chapter 7 has been settled up to now ?
[vic1tgk] ouison Listen... Chapter 7 ...does not effect revaluing of their currency! The USA/UN has kept iraq in ch.7 for their and all the worlds sake! We can...go in to IRAQ... anytime we see a THREAT... or reason to enter...That is not a problem! We are not going to allow...ANYONE or ANYTHING to HURT...IRAQ!!! BIG BRO...USA at the HELM!!!

[dinofan] vic1tgk Did she negotiate away our 2nd Amendment to get this done? That would be unacceptable to me
[vic1tgk] dinofan Explain yourself...
[dinofan] vic1tgk UN Treaty to ban guns
[vic1tgk] dinaofan TO WHOM?
[vic1tgk] LOOK! Mrs. Clinton....stopped RUSSIA from selling...Attack Helicopters to SYRIA!!! look at what has been accomplished this week in SYRIA!!! A CLOSE to BRIG. GENERAL defected...syria...last week A MIG-@( was flown to Jordan... the 33 high ranking Military persons and family...233 left to turkey! Turkey with USA help finds the two Pilots... all in Syria...is falling apart! WHY? Because...WHEN the USA says!!! YOU GOTTA LEAVE...YOU GOTTA LEAVE!!!

Now ASSAD..will most likely go to live in RUSSIA!!! This peace...In SYRIA will Shift to IRAN as WELL! NO ONE...WANTS any of US... The USA!!! OUR USS PONCE...arrived in BAHRAIN...GOOGLE the USS PONCE....and SEE if....ANYONE wants SOME OF THAT!!! COME ON...WE LEAD...WE ARE LEADERS... " LEAD...BE LEAD...or GET THE _ ELL OUT of OUR WAY!!! TRUMANS...WORDS!

[Retchie08] vic1tgk .. Can You teLL us if there is movement or meetings taking place now, even through this weekend ? TY Sir
[vic1tgk] Retchie08 Yes there is!

[balance] vic1tgk I saw that Iraq approved a $9+ Billion supplementary budget. Has this any bearing on our situation?
[vic1tgk] balance added to which budget? The 100, 105 and or 120 BILLION? Yes...that is a great move!

[bambam] vic1tgk We have not heard much out of Iran lately, why is that ?
[vic1tgk] bambam Those REPUBLIC GUARD...IDIOTS were firing OFF...Missiles! That was before The USS PONCE arrived! To me this is all so 'FUNNY' the last HURRAH... before we drop the AX!!! WE ARE for every REASON... THE LEADERS... NO JOKE...NO PLAYIN' .... WE WILL SEE...ALL FALL IN LINE...VERY Shortly! The RV...will SET the BALL IN MOTION! PEOPLE need to EAT...FOOD ...NOT BULLETS!!!

[DinarBob] vic1tgk Once the PTB, mainly the GOP and DEMS, let the RV move forward (hopefully this weekend), do you think the struggle over who is going to get credit for the RV will be made public or is the release going to be withheld from the public. If the public is aware of the RV and the proceeds of the RV are not used to pay down our national debt; would this not bring unrest to our country.
[vic1tgk] DinarBob Sorry, No COMMENT! That is a very good question... however...JFK got CAPPED for LESS than That!!!

[Retchie08] vic1tgk..Is iT True that Iran doesnt have the capabiLity to refine their Own OiL..& with Sanctions Now, They are Pretty much Hog-Tied with the United States & UN on The Watch ??
[vic1tgk] Retchie08 THAT IS WHAT I'VE BEEN PREACHING FOR ALONG TIME! SINCE MY DAYS AT MTT!

[vic1tgk] LOOK... ALOT OF FINANCIAL CORRUPTION HAS BEEN IN PLAY HERE AS WELL AS ALL OVER THE WORLD! BASEL 3 ...IS GOING INTO EFFECT JUNE 2013 ...AND BY JUNE 2018..THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION... HAVE TO BE IN COMPLETE... COMPLIANCE! REMEMBER..WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY! IN SIX....YEARS FROM NOW...THE BIG 4 AND FOLLOWERS HERE... HAVE TO GET THEIR "ACTS " TOGETHER! IF...THEY FALTER... THEN I GUESS.... "IRAQ AND CHINA" CAN BUY INTO THE AMERICAN BANKS...RIGHT? SO YOU SEE.... HOW WE ALWAYS LET OTHER COUNTRIES BRING IN...THEIR MONEY...AND LOCK IT DOWN!!! DID JAPAN.... BUY THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING?

[sooner84] vic1tgk What are your thoughts how Israel might be involved in the RV, if at all, or it might impact them?
[vic1tgk] sooner84 BROTHERMAN... WHO PAID FOR THE LAND IN 1948! THE ROTHSCHILD BOUGHT...WITH COLD CASH...THE AREA FROM GREAT BRITAIN! NO MORE ON THAT

[vic1tgk] I'M GONNA RUN SOME ...HONEY...DUES! BBL ...CAN I SEE A COUNT OF HANDS... ON WHO IS POSITIVE BEFORE I LEAVE! POSITIVE PEOPLE NEED TO HIT.... #7... ALL NEG'S ... NEED NOT APPLY
[vic1tgk] 7 IS GODS NUMBER!!! THE NUMBER OF COMPLETION!!! ..... #7 

POPPY POST UPDATE , 7 JULY

7-7-2012 Poppy3: More and more articles addressing the change in the dinar. My prediction at this stage is that if we see Maliki implement all the Arbil agreements prior to the 10th when Parliament goes back in session then we will see a RV just after Ramadan OR AROUND SEPT 1 but if they go into the Parliament session and he has done nothing then I think they will no confidence vote him out and if this happen and the have to put a interim PM in place. 

Then it will be late in September before the RV will be possible. ONLY TIME WILL TELL. I have talked with several sources about the dong and they have all indicated nothing has changed and that they thought it would have already RV'D this week and have no idea what the hold up is at this point.

BLAINO POST, 7 JULY


7-7-2012 Blaino: This will be done on the keyboard. I can type! There will be a revalue of the IQD. Let's get that out of the way first, so all those pulse rates can drop down a little and so on. Next item up for discussion, you people have been lied to by almost everyone.  Almost all the time.  About almost everything.  Rates, dates, connections, sources, timing, glitches (god, I love that piece of) RIGHT... "glitches".... What a convienient BS deal that has become! Wow !! Glitches gimmee a huge frackkin break. So, why all the lies, distortions, BS stories, "glitches" and so on?  Here's what happens, I see it all the TIME.  People have some intel, some info.. or "IMFO" and they legitimately want to share it, lift people up, provide a service, do some good, then later, after a time, there is NOTHING.  They now have an "IMAGE" a "personna" and a following! So, they stretch. They embellish, they help the "intel" along a little.  It's innocent at first. That's what they tell themselves "real stuff" will be along soon. Just buying a little time, a little space. Some think they are "helping people. CRAP, That's crap!!!

 Telling people "all your dreams are just around the corner" month after month, year after year is LYING!! Really $22.50 to $36.00 per dinar? How xxxxx stupid or greedy are you?  Without doing your due dilligence on everyone involved you will lose all and you will deserve it! If they "need" all that IQD why wouldn't they get it the same place you do? Hey I know, let's get a "sovereign" citizen.  He, she, they will get us a "tier one rate" because...well, they just will but you have to sign an non disclosure agreement. They sure as heck don't want you to spill a word of this. Maybe an "American Indian" who is a sovereign citizen can get "me" this special rate because this other lying, scamming, cheating xxxxx Uh, I mean facillitator introduced me for a fee, a percentage, little gratuity. Hey, after all, this "special person, this sovereign" won't talk to just anyone. Really? Are there attorneys involved? Did you check the state association? 

 Well, there must be some mistake, mustn't there? Joe Schmoe super great guru wouldn't lead me astray. Would he/she/they? If you induce some entity to enter a contract that you have no intention of fulfilling, you are a SCAMMER. If you have $90 in the bank and say $1500 a month in INCOME and you enter a deal to pay thousands a week in payments, that's an order in bad faith. Where are your means? I'LL PUT THE WHOLE THING IN A BIG FAT JUICY E-MAIL WITH PICTURES TOMORROW! "Hammer said it about himself got an invite to cash out in tier two. Then said he didn't cash out but got us a great rate with the top 10. Top ten what?" -- NO COMMENT FOR NOW. I was fully informed on THAT but all is not what it seems sometimes. More tomorrow Seems like great guys are getting us into something really special. Oh don't mind the little inconsistencies in our "CONTRACT."  Geez people, are you asleep, greedy, stupid, all of the above? Beware of the "CONE OF SILENCE." It'll turn into a dunce cap! While fully clothed and without a kiss, you have been xxxx. I have grave concerns. Over 300 million dinars so far, probably LOST!!  Should I stay quiet?  Working on it. It's leading in strange directions. Hope Hammer was not involved.

DINAR CHATTER, 7 JULY


3SIntel: “A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?” ― Albert Einstein

[cruiser] Hello and Good morning Everyone!!! Basel Group in the news:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-06/basel-group-seeks-tougher-rules-for-non-centrally-cleared-swaps.html

[cruiser] "The Basel Committee on Banking Supervision yesterday published a draft of the standards, which it said would prevent companies from exploiting rule differences between nations. The paper sets out a partial list of assets that can count as collateral, including gold and some equities.

[dinofan] So before this Basil rule they were using the same collateral over and over for multiple transactions? Surprised it didnt blow up in their face sooner. Try doing that yourself! 
waterworld] kimskennelklub cruiser .... IMO... the article is good news, exspecially this part... The U.S., the Treasury Department proposed an exemption for foreign- exchange swaps and forwards from most of the Dodd-Frank Act’s clearing and trading rules.... cont.

[_waterworld] The Treasury said there was less counterparty and settlement risk in foreign-exchange contracts than other types of derivatives. [dinofan] redsnowbird So if i read this right , banks still will only need 30% in reserve, instead of 10% as I think they need now?

[kimskennelklub] _waterworld i felt it was a good article also

[_waterworld] kimskennelklub ... gm and pray it will be a GREAT WEEKEND FOR NEWS!

[_waterworld] redsnowbird ... Less risk in foreign currency... IMO... That is why they are woking on a multi-world reserve instead of just the USD...... Again MO...

[cruiser] Here is what I gathered last night after doing hours of research on Basel III structure as to how it will be monitored or enforced: The Basel Commitee or Basel Group will be sending out regulations to all countries. They will choose to be compliant or not (I beleive there are 170 compliant countiries trying to find an accurate number). The compliant countries will then use their Central Banks to enforce the Basel III to the Public and Private banks of that Country. Central Banks will NOT have to be Basel III complaint.  

[chillimac] cruiser i thought central bank was owned by one of the bad boys

[cruiser] chillimac Each country has their own central bank. The U.S has the FED reserve. That will be changing to the UST if it has not already.. [cruiser] I still see this going towards the banks being exposed as the bad guys in the media..

[redsnowbird] dinofan The FDIC cannot support the banks if they fail.... and I don't think the US Treasury can as well.... I know what they say.... but in practical application, there is no way they can save if there is a domino effect.... That is why I am going to get Lloyds of London Insurance as well.....

cruiser] kids that is the completion date. 2019. Currently from what i gathered there are 170 countries that are going t obe basel III complient. There are timlines that each have to meet through out the next couple of years. I beleive all 170 are currently up to date. I know the U.S will be 100% in compliance after the Dodd Frank Act is completed in 2014.

[larryc] China economy is still in free fall, they lowered the interest rate again

[cruiser] larryc The Global Economy is in a free Fall !!!!

[cruiser] pianamama63 The RV can show its ugly mug any time now

[larryc] cruiser yep, the USD is going down fast

[cruiser] larryc No it is not. The USD is Strong and we want it stronger..

[cruiser] pianamama63 If I had that button I would be kicking it, step on it, punching it..

[blondyi40] did anyone read in recaps where doc said it would not rv over 1 dollar

[redsnowbird] blondyi40 Yes....that is where 30% of the intel gurus think it will be.

[nutzo] blondyi40 iraqi people have no confidence in the dinar, and if it rv'd at $1.00 then the people will still use it as it has a good history, it must be worth more than what it replaces or de-dollerisation will fail----end

[redsnowbird] blondyi40 We will adjust to whatever the rate is.... their rationalization is firmly grounded on the reasons why the $1 could be the rate.... however, other gurus have their rationalization and it is also based upon good logic for why the rate is $3-4.... Plan for both scenarios if you can.

[tradeviper] The gurus info in not based on opinion, its based on the pre negociated contracts with wells fargo

[Sprinkles] Can we still RV today?

blue skies] Sprinkles why not!!!

cruiser] larryc the dollar is strong because the Euro is low. The pound is Low. Oil is down still 20% for the year. Gold is down 5% or more. That is why the dolar is high.

[steveg] tradeviper you have read that we have a finale rate with WF? I was always under the impression that the final rate will not be known until after the RV. I hope you are right.

[redsnowbird] tradeviper I was just reflecting on the different rate estimates by the different gurus... but you are correct about the WF rate... that will be what is negotiated.

[tradeviper] Have not read anything, the contracts are already negotiated, just waiting to be signed and dated when released,

[tradeviper] the only thing that is not outlined yet is the process and how it will go down

nutzo] redsnowbird also, with all these guru's saying totally different things, dates and rates, after it pops, those that were closest will be remembered, all others will be fade from memory, and go back into obscurity, this is their moment in the light,

[redsnowbird] nutzo I agree.... though I will probably remember a lot of our gurus even if they are incorrect.... and hopefully they won't just fade into the distance!

[hiddentreasure] "In the midst of confusion shall come a clear golden thread of light illuminating and making known My perfect will saying, 'This is the way, walk ye in it.' Fear not, wrestle not, but follow the steps one by one into My perfect and abiding will. Say not to your heart, 'It is finished,' but say to your heart, 'It has begun, and My God shall establish and bring forth all that He has proclaimed in the land of the living.' Thank-You Father

[DOUBLE B] Swat: Maliki threatened with murder and ordered to promote personal

Hamayate [DOUBLE B] The source said that Maliki had received yesterday letters threatening assassination did not know the source of his part, is increasing the number of protected personal by providing a large number of protections and trained special forces, SWAT, which reached the number of troops added, including more than 320 people, adding that security has been tightened around the in an unprecedented manner to include all the characters that you meet or seek to meet him

[tab200] I hope who ever is threatening is a good shot

Maryrose] barb noway37 Recaps is all over the board this morning. First time in a long long time that I've seen that. What makes me feel ok about it is that most, if not all of the authors I've never seen before which makes me think SMOKE!

Vice Governor of CBI: The importance of strengthening the Iraqi currency and maintain the independence of monetary policy, 7 july


Vice Governor of CBI: The importance of strengthening the Iraqi currency and maintain the independence of monetary policy

Saturday, July 7, 2012 14:51
Search former Vice-President Adel Abdul Mahdi, with the Central Bank Governor Sinan Shabibi economic developments taking place in the country and the measures the central bank to raise the value of Iraqi dinar.
A statement by the office of Abdul Mahdi, the Agency has received all of Iraq [where] a copy of it today that “Abdul-Mahdi was received in his office in Baghdad a number of officials in the state of each individual, where he met central bank governor said during the meeting the importance of strengthening the Iraqi currency and maintain the independence of the monetary policy of the Bank Central.”
He added, “Abdul-Mahdi discussed in a separate meeting with the governor of Kirkuk, Najm al-Din Karim importance of service projects and urban development in the province, said Abdul-Mahdi, the need to provide better services to the people of the province.”
The statement said that former Vice-President also discussed with Minister of Water Resources and former adviser of the Republic R. Is Abdul Latif Rashid Allarroaii reality in the country and how to maintain the increase of water resources including reflect positively on the development of the agricultural situation in the country. “
He said, “Abdul-Mahdi received also a member of the National Alliance, former Deputy Qasim Daoud and discussed the overall situation in the political landscape in the country.
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Iraq postpones the introduction of the food basket (ration card), 7 july


Iraq postpones the introduction of the food basket (ration card)

SATURDAY, JULY 7, 2012 13:05
Revealed the Economic Committee in the House of Representatives, Saturday, for project work around the system in the distribution of the food basket of the ration card items for financial and technical reasons.
Said committee member Nahida Daini’s ” Twilight News “that” the system standard food basket was decided to postpone the application temporarily for financial reasons and technical, to the inability of the government to implement this project. “
“It’s the Economic Commission expects to provide food basket citizen when there is strong oversight and economic plans by the Ministry of Planning.”
Dani explained that “Ministry of Trade is the reason for the delay in the other, in order to contract with companies that delay is sober food, which reflected negatively on the Iraqi citizens.”
It was hoped to begin the introduction of the food basket of this month, which includes five food is flour, rice, oil, sugar and milk.
The system of delivery of the food basket per ration card items on time without delay based importer and one instead of multiple importers.
And return distribution system vocabulary of food according to the ration card to the Iraqi citizens to the year 1990, after the issuance of Resolution No. 661 on 6 August by the UN Security Council, who spent the imposition of economic sanctions against Iraq, while analysts point out that Iraq was adopted in the first case the distribution of food on the citizens on a monthly basis in 1942.
The majority of Iraqi cities witnessed demonstrations in protest on 25 February of last year, to demand better vocabulary ration card, and was among the other demands calling for improving the living conditions and quality of services provided to citizens.
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Member of the Economic Committee: deleting zeroes from the currency will address inflation and facilitate trade exchange, 7 july


Member of the Economic Committee: deleting zeroes from the currency will address inflation and facilitate trade exchange

Date: Saturday, 07-07-2012 02: 19 pm
Baghdad (News) … Member of the Economic Commission of the National Alliance Deputy//Amer Hussein Al-Fayez, the decisions of the Committee of finance and the Central Bank in the process of deleting zeros from the currency will address existing economic inflation and facilitates trade.
He said Al-Fayez (News Agency news) on Saturday: the deletion of zeros will help citizens to ease trading and exchange currency and ease of download categories a few cash in purchasing goods and goods.
He added: the operation would raise the moral value of the Iraqi currency and does not leave any damage or danger to the Iraqi economy.
And: the Iraqi currency will be pumped to zeros deleted market and will work with the old currency to the old currency is withdrawn permanently from citizens.
Explained: that the deletion of zeros from the currency will not affect the economy of Iraq as most recently in the street.
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Central Bank of Iraq’s new currency … soon to market, 7 july


Central Bank of Iraq’s new currency … soon to market

MP from Kurdistan Alliance bloc Mahma Khalil, for contracting the Iraqi Central Bank with (4) known international companies for the printing of new currency for the printing of the new national currency after you delete the zeros of which, describing the project to delete the three zeroes from the currency as “successful” and the time is ideal for replacing them.
Khalil (of the Agency news) on Sunday:
The project to delete three zeros from the local currency is one of the important projects and at all levels, whether for economic or security to the country, pointing out that the topic of the program by the central bank and a
good time to replace the ideal currency, which will be early next year.
He pointed out: that the central bank has contracted with (4) well-known international companies, and solid in the field of international currency printing, without giving their names or nationalities, saying: that it is too early to announce the nationalities of those companies.
Khalil added: The new currency will be a high specification and have the properties of security is very high is not as easy to be forged, in addition to the federal government has (25) organ The allergic and high distinguishes new currency counterfeit of good as well as import (25) another ATM by the central bank to detect counterfeit currency, calling for attribution and support this project because it will reform the Iraqi currency by reducing the money supply raised in the local markets.
The Attorney-Khalil: The new currency will consist of the categories (1, 2, 5, 10, 25 and 50, 100, 200) dinars, as well as small metal groups (50 and 250) fils.
As revealed deputy governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed in favor of the existence of safety properties of high-tech and scientifically advanced in the new Iraqi currency after deletion of zeros of the three of them.
Saleh said in an earlier statement that the Central Bank of Iraq has reached advanced stages of preparations for the mission logistics project to delete the three zeroes from the Iraqi currency, and after obtaining approval from the federal government to implement it will be working on a larger scale because it is a legitimate strategic interest to the general of the Iraqi people.