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Wednesday, July 4, 2012

TIDBITS FROM MIG CHAT, 4 JULY


8:25 PM [target] [hammerman] all my sources say there is 0% chance of this going past nov 16 ,,, that is shabies last day in office ,,,,,,,,,,, every one also says very very soon ,,, ,,yall get an forget we will let you now when ,,stop stressing ,let me do that

goin4broke] I have a friend banker in panhandle Florida and he told me about a month ago all officers were on conference call. On the other end was one of their corporate tax attorneys and told them be ready for a currency called Iraq Dinar.

He said our bank wants all of these customers we can get and open up Business accounts for each as O has plans to tax the living you know what out of everyone with personnal accounts. I never post but I know this guy and I think he still has his first dollar, but now he also has Dinar. Poor sucker like the rest of us. Hope the info helps to ease those who are unsure which is all of us.

[billuke] Footforward said something in q&a last night or night before which my gut tells me is true. Since Iraq in under Ch. 7, they were invaded, their currency was made worthless, they are not in control. Anything they do has to be approved by the IMF or others - so how can they be in the driver's seat of this?

[eleanor] billuke therefore the agreements and laws have to be voted on an passed in order for the RV to occur. Now that's not saying that they are'nt being dictated to by some other people to do it at a certain time
[Aremel] eleanor Why should the Iraqi Government follow their Constitution? It is "VERY WELL ESTABLISHED" that the US doesn't follow theirs.

[Aremel] And we are still here.

[billuke] eleanor there you go, I'll buy that

[eleanor] Aremel It's made to appear as though we are and so it is with them

[eleanor] billuke therefore the illusion that they are in control

bookings] billuke billuke amen impo i do not feel iraq has anything to do with this rv at this point.

[drl] bookings I would haveto concur! this is a global event and Iraq is a cog in the wheel which is spun by far more powerful entities!

[eleanor] Aremel I think all are correct on some level and if we could put the pieces together we could pin the delay on some one or at least a group of peeps, but even then we wouldn't know the exact rate or date

[Aremel] eleanor There's just no arguing with that. So I won't .. lol

eleanor] bookings If that's true we'll see the RV within the 48hrs. Shabibi has after the three days

[eleanor] Ready to lock and load anytime

[Aremel] Since we are all following the opinions of others, or our own opinion which is largely based upon gleanings from the thoughts of others as well, I will wade in with a possibility. There is the distinct possibility that there is a much larger issue to be considered here. There is the possibility that there is more than just one country involved in the process which would create a non-static series of events which all play out at different times juxtaposed to each other with a date in the future (Long or Short) to come to pass. You can call the multifront event whatever you want, you cannot discount the possibility that this is NOT just about Iraq

goin4broke] I have a friend who got into this in 2004 and had 40 million Dinar. It is now 2012 and he has NO idea where it is now. This Dinar ride can break you down if you let it. I pray that Footforward is correct in his beliefs for each of us and that God takes back his World as I know each of us will help others ten-fold. Thanks to all service people who allow all of us to sit on computers waiting for our ships to come in.

[goin4broke] If this whole thing was truely a plan to correct the Worlds currency situation then kudos to those that had the brains and guts to come up with it. I don't know if we will ever know the truth as we may not be able to handle the truth.

[da58] hmmm..poppy3 just said based on new info he's received he has changed his perspective on the timing of our rv..and, that if you're over invested you will not like it. but - if you have prepared for the possibilities I think you will like it. That, he will be back in later to expain..earlier he stated that the only rate that has been discussed internationally and approved by the IMF is the 3.22 to 3.86 and all this talk about the buck, or the .86 is just that - talk.

heartfelt] Cyndee49 I don't think we will get any advance news. As most have been saying...it will just appear. I felt very comfortable till Poppy threw a wrench in it, but he may have a piece of MIS-information that he is stuck on.

[artmeister1] Poppy did say that vnd still is allowed to go now. Still saying 48 hours is up today and let's just hope we at least see a decent rate on it.

Kord] artmeister1 I also don't think the VND will go separate from the IQD.

[Cat-in-the-hat] Art ... i think it is a concerted effort on both iraq and the US and the PTB

[artmeister1] Kord: you are no doubt right on that too. I need for it to badly, but do feel we will get a much better rate if it goes with the others.

[pat888] Randy Koonce had a call yesterday and said he is looking for it late this week or the weekend but thinks at least by 7/15-16...said the key was when we see Talabini return and the Nat. Conference. Said in past O was delaying it for taxes...figures. He also said tariffs did not go thru but delayed

[Lauren305] pat888 on tariffs, I think Winalot is right. in import/export, most things are NET/30 NET/60 or NET/90, so they have to be in effect from the past (june) to be due at whatever time iraq then announces they be collected.

KAPERONI POST, 4 JULY

7-4-2012 Kaperoni (notes from today's call): Clearly Iraq is ramping up for this. For those of us who have been in this a long time know we have never seen as many articles coming out relating to the currency. The new currency comes out after they change the exchange rate. So, this event will occur in the very near future. I'm going out on a limb and saying 90 days or less. They need to stimulate the banking environment. They need to create an environment where the citizens are taking advantage of that technology. There's going to be a period of time where the rate changes and Shabibi will use that time to get citizens to utilize the banks. Large denoms will not be accepted at a merchant level. Iraqis will have to turn large notes into the banks where it will be dealt with electronically and the paper notes removed from circulation. The large notes will retain their value. Iraqi citizens will gain a bank account and buying power. We believe Shabibi already has removed a large portion from circulation. Initially the exchange rate will be 1 to 1 or possibly .86 cents and then from there it will continue to raise over time. I would expect the budget for 2013 to be a little higher than the USD which will also help with dollarization. Shabibi has his work cut out for him to make this currency something the citizens can be proud of. The Council of Ministers needs to tell the citizens when this is going to happen. Apparently something has occured since July 1st when it was stated that there were still some issues between the Council of Ministers and Parliament that needed to be resolved. The Council of Ministers have now approved the project during a meeting with Shabibi and the CBI to move forward. Now all players on board. That is HUGE. They still need to pass the law and read it into the gazette but at least now everyone is in agreement. Shabibi's plan is to get this done and now it appears that with the Council of Ministers on board he can achieve his goal. Dr. Bakri said that just changing the currency itself will not revive the country. The combination of all the progress they've made since the end of the war will lead to the dinar strengthening and the value will go up. Manufacturing, agriculture and national investment all contribute to the strengthening of the dinar. Change willl propell Iraq to the next level. The initial rate of 1 to 1 is the staging strategy and from there they will let the market drive it up. The initial rate of 1 to 1 will come out in September and will give Shabibi a few months to initiate the bank accounts and prepare for the new currency in January. The dinar sold out of country will stay out of country and ultimately it will be a hard currency. In September the currency will be bought and sold electronically among central banks around the world which will drive the value up. The IQD will be internationally traded but Shabibi will control the rate. It will be a managed float. That is the only way this can happen. The international banking environment would never have invested in Iraq otherwise. This is an amazing plan and we're all going to be part of it. The rate change must happen before September, if the dinar is going to be internationally recognized and traded between the banks. I hope everyone understands how very close we are. 

VIC1 CHAT, 4 JULY


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POPPY CHAT, 4 JULY


poppy3] amazing how willing people are to just settle for any amount. I believe in the word of GOD and it tells me The power of the tongue and your faith can be had. I am not willing to settle for a figure that not one person has ever confirmed in any way . it is and always has been a figment of someone's imagination.

The only facts about and rate that has been internationally approved and published says $3.22 to $3.86 by and from the IMF the only official word ever stated internationally. SO WHY EVEN CONSIDER ANYTHING ELSE from unknowing people. Why talk it period. ITS like if you don't like the roller coaster ride quit going and reading all the BS being stated by the peeps that have been building false promises for years and jerking the rug from under everyone. POPPY3

[poppy3] I have another prediction from new information today and have changed my outlook on the timing of our RV and will come back later tonight and give my new timing perspective on timing possibilities. You will not like it if you have over invested ..... If you have managed and planned for the possibilities you should like what I have to say . BBL Poppy3
[CoolSpot] poppy3 Amen. If this is of the Lord, which I know it is, we can't placed a limit on God. I am agreement with you.

[poppy3] CoolSpot amen and amen I don't limit my GOD poppy3 My daddy has all the money and supplies my needs over abundantly more than I can imagine. poppy3

[poppy3] dinar baby great to be feeling better and moving around without extreme pain. poppy

[poppy3] happy 4th to all and remember all our military world wide. Poppy3

[poppy3] my worries on the rv at this point is that if leadership makes a deal with Maliki and allow that fool to stay in power then i don't think dr Shabibi will not release the rv because he doesnt trust Maliki at all and even if Maliki signs releases and empliments erbil, hcl ,ministers, etc. That will not instill the dr's confidence in the forward movement of the government of iraq.

Today is the 4th and parliament begins on the 10th with Ramadon starting on the 19th through the 19th of august. My new feeling on timing is that if the dinar doesnt rv prior to Ramadon we will not see it before sept. 15th. At the earliest. And then only if there have been confirmed and documented restriction on Maliki's postion. Poppy3

[tag] hello poppy 3,i am so happy to see the positive progress you have made. I want to tell you that i have a great deal of respect for you , and always listen to all you have to say. With this new info. You mentioned it sounds like we may be looking at a longer wait, in your opionion does that go for the dong also????

[SWFloridaGuy] poppy3 Thanks for the post. Good to see you in the room again.  

[poppy3] tag no in fact i got more details today that a deal is being worked on to go ahead with the rv of the dong at anytime. My world currency international banker that does huge world commercial loans stated yesterday again that they have been told to expect movement on the dong, yen,and one other currency within the next 48 hour which is through today. I have not heard anything to change that notice. Only time will tell but i have confirmation a month ago that the imf did approve permission for vn to rv independently at anytime. Poppy3

[poppy3] i am totally confident in the investment and as i have done for years now i buy more dinar every month. I do not use family house or budget funds for my purchase. I just take other invested profit to make purchases so don't by what you can't afford. Poppy3

poppy3] Sugar pie chattels guys i am just looking at the needs of the process and days available to get those things accomplished even if movement took place today. Days to implement ??? About 10 even if agreed to impliment by Maliki and if he is removed time for selection for interum ?? Then to get interum approval then to have implimentation ?? These would fall after Ramadon which nothing political will happen during that time??? Just being very positive and optimistic and applying common since to the situation. Poppy3 just set down and take the calendar and all things needed and plug them in poppy3

trebor1859] Thanks poppy, Just praying your contact is correct on the dong and we see it today.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 4 JULY

7-4-2012  Newshound Guru Mike   We are seeing the finalized plans for the banks becoming the place to exchange...The Banking system will be the #1 place where people will transact business...and all the economies will evolve around the banking system as it was set up in the Future of Iraq Project.  They are not doing this because they are going to have a worthless currency...Saleh told us we are already in the middle of the project to delete the zeroes...that there will not be a decrease in value - there will be an increase in purchasing power and that they are very confident they can come into the international world with a solid currency.

7-4-2012  Newshound Guru Med  THE TIMELINE IS NOT LONG, AT WORST IT IS DECEMBER,  THAT IS WHAT, LESS THAN 6.  HELL SINCE 09 THEY HAVE BEEN PULLING BACK DINAR AND THERE IS STILL 35 TRILLION OUT THERE.

7-4-2012  Intel Guru Footforward    I DON’T BELIEVE IN THIS 3 OR 5 TIER CASH OUT THING, AND I DON’T THINK IT’S GOING TO GO IN BATCHES. THAT WOULD CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS. IT...ALL NEEDS TO GO AT THE SAME TIME, IMO.   I’M NOT STICKING TO ANY OTHER TIME LINE THAN NOW.   THE WHOLE FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS GOING TO COLLAPSE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW. IF NOTHING IS DONE, THE EURO WILL FOR SURE CRASH BY SEP. THE USD WON’T BE FAR BEHIND THAT. SO SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE.
7-4-2012  Intel Guru DinarWishes  Lets just say INDEPENDENCE is is a WONDERFUL thing...I really wish I could say more...But, Im a Happy Man!!!  Be patient and know the times they are a-changin...no HYPE.

7-4-2012  Intel Guru Studley
  DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES WANT TO SEE US LOOSE OUR MONEY, AND THE SYSTEM HAS TO BE COMPLETELY SAFE. SECOND, THEY ARE STILL TAKING CERTAIN KEY INDIVIDUALS OUT OF THE WAY. ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT: IRAQ HAS METICULOUSLY TAKEN THE LARGE DENOMS OFF THE STREET, THE HIGHEST BILL ON THE STREET IS 500 DINARS, WHICH AT THIS RATE IS 42 CENTS, IRAQ NEEDS A MONEY SUPPLY AND FAST.  ALSO, THE WORLD NEEDS CAPITAL INFUSION IMMEDIATELY, THIS IS A TIMING ISSUE, AND DON'T FORGET, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN DOWN AROUND THE WORLD.  IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A COMPLEX PROCESS AND TAKES TIME.
7-4-2012  Intel Guru Bluwolf  FOR ALL THOSE WAITNG FOR THIS INTERNATIONAL RELEASE,THOSE THAT WERE BUYING TIME CAN NO LONGER, BOTH ALL OF US AND THE BANKS ARE IN A SECOND TO SECOND WATCH...WE ARE STILL LOOKING GOOD THERE IS NO NEGATIVE NEWS WHAT SO EVER, SO WE ARE GOOD TO GO AT ANYTIME.

BULLDOG UPDATE CHAT, 4 JULY


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BLUWOLF CHAT, 4 JULY


bluwolf] NOW IMO I CANNOT BELIEVE OR EVEN THINK OF THE WHY THIS THING HAS NOT POP IN AS OF YET

[bluwolf] ALL I DO KNOW IS THAT THOSE THAT WERE BUYING TIME HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY DO NOT ANYMORE TO SPARE

musiccitylady] I think I will go on and call Oprah to see if she can get us some answers! :tinkerbell:

[bluwolf] musiccitylady THE ANSWER IS CLEAR ALL IS DONE AND WE ARE JUST WAITING ON THE CODES CALL.

twisted67] bluwolf ..... something we all need to think about “Many of life’s failures are experienced by people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up.”
[bluwolf] RdRiver WE GROW UP IN INTEL ACCORDING TO THE TIME FRAME AND THE ISSUES THAT SUROUND THEM,THESE CHANGE BY THE FORCES THAT BE AND WE CANNOT CONTROL THAT,I HAVE A NORTH TO GUIDE ME BY,AND I MAINTAIN IT FOREVER LOOKING FOR THE CORRECT INFO TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL

bluwolf] twisted67 100% CORRECT

[Angel] TotallyBlessed Sweet sometimes talks with them, but not sure how often love. I will ask if she has news of either that she might share :)

[bluwolf] Angel DID STUDLEY ACERTAIN WHAT WE HAVE BEEN INFORMING? OR DID HE NOT?

[noway37] bluwolf so ya saying its all done and we are just waiting for them to release the codes..??? no hold ups?? no nothing??

[bluwolf] noway37 YES CORRECT

[RdRiver] bluwolf he said he was cautiously optomisitc

 [tooldog] woooooooooooooooooooooo hoooooooooooooooooooo

[bluwolf] RdRiver WELL THEN HE ALWAYS IS,GOOD OLD STUDLEY

[noway37] bluwolf and they will release when they feels its right?? now will be show when they release or they release and will take a few days to show like the kuwait did?????

[bluwolf] noway37 THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT SCENARIO BUT IT WILL NOT TAKE LONG

[noway37] bluwolf so they may have released it but not showing up??

[bluwolf] noway37 ITS ALREADY IN OUR BANKS AND ALL WORLD WIDE SYSTEM,,WE WAIT NOW

 [firenice] bluwolf based on what we learned yesterday, do you feel Well Fargo is the only safe bank at this time?

bluwolf] firenice I HAVE TOLD YOU THAT WAY BACK IN THE PAST,IT IS THE ONLY SAFE ONE

[firefixer] Bluwolf, can the rate "fluxuwait" each day? Since it was released to the bank?

[bluwolf] firefixer NOT ANYMORE

[justaguy] bluwolf Is the Iraq stock exchange ready to go international?

bluwolf] justaguy YES

[paiaboy] bluwolf: The Fourth of July would be a great time to POP! the RV yeah?

[paiaboy] only thinking positive here

[dckb75] Have we been in this position long (just holding the codes)?

[bluwolf] dckb75 AROUND 6 MONTHS TO THIS DAY

 [dinardr] JUST A HEADS UP TO THE ROOM ... WE ARE CLOSING IN 12 MINUTES.. IF WE RV WE WILL REOPEN IMMEDIATELY

[bluwolf] LISTEN UP FOLKS YOU'VE ONLY GOT A COUPLE OF MINUTES LEFT,,ENJOY WHAT YOU GOT LEFT IN THIS ROOM,WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR OUR PHONE CALL AND THAT IS WHERE WE STAND,NO CHANGES NO DELAYS,NO GLITCHES,NO LOW RATES,ALL IS IN THE BASKET,AND YOU WILL SEE IT ASN,,GOOD AFTERNOON GOD BLESS ALL AND HAPPY JOURNEYS,,BLUWOLF

[dinardr] ALL OF YOU GO AND ENJOY YOUR DAY ... WE WILL BE HERE IF THERE IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT !! SO GO HAVE SOME FUN.. SPEND TIME WITH FAMILY .. EAT .. .WATCH FIREWORKS ... RELAX !!! LOVE TO YOU ALL

RUMORS FROM DINARLAND, 4 JULY


vic406] steveg thats just it studley comes out only when he feels it is very possible and when there way diff he flat out says it

[BLPastor] vic406 I agree, when Studley comes on I get excited....because things are happening. Otherwise he stays pretty quiet.

[vic406] This to the fact studley never mentioned okie says volumes

[steveg] vic406 Studley did mention Okie last night and said he gets excited looking at the large picture but he (Studley) relay the financial experience side of the picture

[vic406] TexasNative yep and his last comments on take what he said and take it apart to understand it but yes i agree

[TexasNative] Another key point in Studley's post...last time he was in he said watch the Stock Market...that it's being when commodities move with the up and down of the market that would be the sign...when asked about that last night he said no-comment. That is what the markets have been doing lately.

[vic406] ya know look at it this way studly always said we wouldnt see it till it was over well no banks no stock markets today the only way we would know is by a intel provider just a little food for thought
[highlander65] vic406 praying

[vic406] \perfect time to do so huh

[vic406] highlander65 me too

[blueblaze1962] vic406 Good Point..maybe today would be the best day? just a thought

[jetpack] Have great 4th July everyone Praying maybe tomorrow we find that rv before another weekend stay blessed :)

[twisted67] jetpack ....... but IMO ...... wouldn't in be fitting for this thing to go off just before the midnight hour on THE 4 TH OF JULY

[vic406] couldnt double dip even if you wanted

[smokin70s] Peeps I believe that there are 3 scenarios most folk with intel are following (regardless the sources),# 1 Iraq ,Sovrenty,US's Largest Embassy,Tarriffs Due Now & US economy(common sense)...# 2 Nesara no comment # 3 The Allignment Word Banking & PTB Pick your poison I PICK DOOR # 1

[smokin70s] blueblaze1962 My prediction of it showing BY Fri is based on # 1 and other personal incidentals

 [artmeister1] Gators: I think Jonny and Bella are in line with Okie, Studley, Soonerfan, Soonerpatriot, Freeway Bill, etc. If you all were on Chat in intel4u late last night where Studley and Soonerfan spent a lot of time, their explanations made more sense than anything I have heard. So, if they are on recaps, I would suggested reading. Until bad guys out of way and arrests made, it won't go down.

Our money is being protected. Randy is a nice guy. Just wrong in his rate prediction and how it will come down. When Rv is released worldwide, then GOI announced at same time. Maybe in country Iraq will have a similar rate to Kuwait, but time will tell. Shabs has stated that Iraq has the ME higher currency value. So, it has to be more than $ 3.60 where Kuwait is now. Just common sense tells us that. Iraq signed off a long time ago and they are not in charge of this.

 I think Okie and his crowd or followers, whatever you want to label them, will turn out to be right. Follow Drake also and the Nesara movement.

newshound] Gators I think Johnny was in a particular place as things were going on in his particular area of the RV. Like looking through a porthole window, he was able to see what was pertinent at the time and after that particular thing got taken care of all is quiet because it is done. Imo

[artmeister1] There are a lot of pieces to this big puzzle. You need to put them all together and most folks are not doing that. Studley has been through Rv's before and is the Forex and Banking guy. I think he is the one most on top of all of this.

[BIGREDDOG] good article on euro currency.. http://money.msn.com/inv ··· bak.aspx

[Gators] artmeister1 I can appreciate your thoughts here but this Nesara/WGS/PP has been going on over 30+ years.. This IQD is now speculated by some of the Gurus above as related to these programs does not make sense as the IQD was devalued about 8-9 years ago.

[da58] artmeister1 in following Drake - today is the 4th..the arrests are supposed to be complete, rfireworks, etc - green light given last thurs...and most would know about them. Well,,haven't heard a ton, or of thousands, etc.. Of course, it would be nice - but haven't heard much.

[newshound] artmeister1 I agree with all but the nersara as per it has been going on for many many years, and just has not happened. IMO it just got attached to the RV to bring back to life again. No disrespect to you at all and thanks for the thoughts, we all can have opinions and just agree to disagree. tks

[artmeister1] Here is what you do not understand. No announcements of these arrests are going to be made public in our newspapers because the main stream media is controlled by the bad guys. These arrests are currently being made by interpol, CIA, and Military. You will not hear about them until it is time for those announcements to be made and that will be after the surprise element has been taken care of. Nesara has been worked on for years, but you need to go back and read the dates and when it was passed in Congress (Now hidden) from anyone. Do more homework and it will all come together.

[jodilf] from Randy Koonce Call 12:36 AM [da58] Randy is also saying - right now - exactly right now - what we are waiting for, is for the National Meeting - which isn't happening until Talibani actually returns..he expected him today, but...and - he will announce who's house it is in..What is a National Meeting?? It's announcements..takes about 2 hrs..a half hour prep...solid announcemnets..and - Maliki needs to be there, to make 'his' announcements..so - that's when really can accomplish, and finish all this crap.ce accompanying President Jalal Talabani in his medical treatment trip to Germany, said that President Talabani is in very good health after having underwent an operation on his knee.

jodilf] more Randy Koonce 12:46 AM [da58] he's saying O needs this - for his reelection, badly...based on things he has said 'in the background''...(randy isn't going to say 'what' O has said, but has already incated his thorough disappointment in what he has learned..' 12:48 AM [da58] states M WONT go through the no confidence - period...they will HAVE to keep postponing it if T doesn't show for votes...HE is almost POSITIVE he will enact all...instead of more delays and etc..

[heartfelt] jodilf but didn't we hear that O wanted this no later then mid June because he needed OUR spending to show in 3rd quarter reports that would show mid Sept for his boost for election? That is what I heard but can't remember from who.

[jodilf] heartfelt probably - we've heard so much!!! I'm just reposting chat notes that were emailed to me

From late last night:

[BWM] well guys, another night of willful watching... some days there are really some things I wish I could share with you about daily interpretations that unfortunately, in the big picture, wouldn't do us any good to know but would certainly change your perspective about how some things "arrange" in dinarland...

[MRP] Of the billions of people around the world, you were one of the ones who heard about the RVs of the Dinar and Dong. You had the courage to stick with the investment, to sort through the information and build discernment. As you move toward your own Independence Day, please remember what BWM, DW, and Studley have taught you about creating generational wealth and helping in your community.

PEOPLEINVESTED CHAT, 4 JULY


Tuesday Night Chat with Millionday, RobinRedHed and Fresh:

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[millionday] Iraq has started to issue import licenses for traders that are meant to curb the smuggling of hard currency, a Trade Ministry official said. “The central bank will be able to recognize when it gives hard-currency transfers to a certain shipment and this shipment will be known to the central bank by its size, value and origin,” Sadiq Hussein, director general of the ministry’s Iraqi trade company for fairs and services, said at a press conference in Baghdad today. “Therefore, there will be no way to smuggle the currency.”

[ROBINREDHED] why would they need to smuggle worthless currency
[Tnt11] Great question red
[Mrs. Beans and Rice] ROBINREDHED millionday - yes, why would they care if it goes outside the borders? You can't use it out there.

[millionday] seems they are dying over it too
[millionday] brb with more 
[millionday] A security source in Nineveh Operations Command said Tuesday that five of the border guards were killed and others were wounded in clashes with armed smugglers on the border adjacent to Syria, west of Mosul. The source said in an interview with "Shafaq News” that "The armed smugglers were heading towards Sinjar district of Iraq-Syria border west of Mosul and they clashed with troops from the border guards that resulted the death of two guards and the injury of three others." The source, who asked not to be named, said that, "The armed smugglers fled after clashing with border guards while the army troops cordoned off the scene in search of them."


[millionday] In a time when President Jalal Talabani said Iraq will cross the current problems through national dialogue, he saw each of the coalition of state law and the Kurdistan Alliance, the return of President of the Republic prospective home will contribute to easing the political crisis. And the transfer of a presidential statement received "morning," a copy of it, the source of medical facilities for Talabani at his treatment in Germany confirmed that the health status of Excellent President of the Republic after the success of surgery of the knee joint. The source explained that the President moved yesterday (Monday) to the Survey of physiotherapy in a suburb of the German capital Berlin, and after doctors confirmed the full success of the process of replacing the knee joint, which made him, and that track is usually a period of physical therapy and exercise, where the President continues now period of convalescence and exercising, under the supervision of medical staff in charge.

[millionday] Told the Kurdish source "Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network" on Saturday that the president will return to the home during the next few days, noting that "the President of the Republic may call after his return to a broad national meeting, especially as the political crisis calmed down and started talking about reform, rather than other options Tazm positions. " He pointed out that laboratory testing and analysis conducted in the previous period in the hospital showed that all the normal physical functioning and there is no departure from the average in any of the indicators. The statement stressed that the president will leave the sanatorium physical therapy after the completion of these treatments and exercise necessary for preparing then to return to the country. The statement noted that Talabani had received many ministers and members of the House of Representatives and the political leaders and discussed with them in the current situation,

[millionday] where following the President of the Republic in detailed and accurate developments and events in the country, expressing his strong and confident that Iraq will cross the current problems through national dialogue and sincere construction high sense of responsibility to the people by all. In the meantime, he saw each of the coalition of state law and the Kurdistan Alliance, the return of President Jalal Talabani to the home will contribute to a breakthrough in the political crisis. The MP said the coalition of state law, Khalid al-Asadi's "Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network": that "the presence of President of the Republic to achieve momentum and strong support for the atmosphere of dialogue and help in the success of the reform project, which adopted the National Alliance and on this basis form a committee for this purpose."

[millionday] so he expects to resolve it all when he returns and he is simply having physical therapy -- not all this rediculas rumors that have been passed around -- he will be back and will be doing his exercise for his knees at home and is expected to have the national meeting when he
[millionday] the rest of the rumors are just that --- silly stuff
[millionday] brb with more
[Fresh] millionday I have something to share!

[millionday] the Iraqi Trade Ministry announced Tuesday, imposed on all goods leave the import and goods entering the country through border crossings and airports, saying it exempted import State for three months until a formula. The Director of the Iraqi State company for fairs and responsible for granting import permits Sadiq Hussein during a press conference in Baghdad that "we started working with input material and goods to Iraq to leave since July, and this restriction was limited to some agricultural, food and oil products and chemicals. Hussein said that "what is new is the inclusion of all articles, and leave the import target to prevent regulatory and statistical random import and enter non-conforming materials."

[millionday] Fresh let me finish this one and then lets have it hun ---
[millionday] "There will be emphasis on the entry and choose the most appropriate materials and finest", referring to "create a follow-up observation points for applications and procedures". Hussein said that "there will be prevented to enter any goods do not carry import leave, we are working to overcome all obstacles to traders away from administrative routine". He said that "the problem of Government emerged, we addressed the import agencies defer to government sector coverage under the leave beyond the end of this year, but until now we did not respond, we issued a provisional decision to exempt Government import for 3 months of leave, and let us know the import value by allowing him".

[millionday] so now they are ready to license all imports -- very cool step we have been waiting on
[millionday] alright fresh -- lets have what you have hun
[ROBINREDHED] millionday did we know we were waiting on this?

[millionday] i told someone -- probably forgot lol
[millionday] that my friend is customs

[millionday] wooohooooo
[jimplants] does this mean no tarriff for 3 months?
[anthonlcs] millionday Is licensing all imports a connection to tariffs
[millionday] so implementation is not just ink -- there it is in licenses

[millionday] customs -- now the taxation does not have to be applied for various reasons -- holiday -- atracting international trade -- trade agreements ect
[anthonlcs] millionday So that is saying that the tariffs are implemented
[millionday] but the law of customs is what we see is important -- because that is the law of trade ofr the country


[millionday] tariff is a tax that will be due in the next quarter for the company that signed a trade agreement

[millionday] customs is what appoints the license for the trade --- very cool
[millionday] fresh --- are you here
[millionday] did you say you wanted to bring something

[anthonlcs] millionday So tariffs are implemented but not in effect till next quarter...law of customs is granting licenses to import goods that will have tariffs on the goods when they bring the product in...Am I on the right line of thinking?

[millionday] anthonlcs when a company has a tax from trade -- it is due at the end of the quarter hun


[millionday] they pay tariff tax as agreed but it is accounted in their quarter reports and their yearly reports and debts
[anthonlcs] millionday ty I dont want to ask anymore dumb questions!
[millionday] there are no ddumb questions hun

[millionday] i am glad you ask --

[cornsnake64] millionday one more step closer??
[BobbyJ] millionday so customs law and tariffs are two separate issues? correct? and if they are have the tariffs been implemented? i keep see conflicting articles
[millionday] yes one more step and verification that they are moving toward global trade
[BobbyJ] for the latter. thank you
[Fresh] I was watching CNN with Wolf Blitzer because brett123 called me and let me know they had an upcoming segment on Iraq centered around $$$...
[Fresh] I recorded it and what they talked about is the need for Iraqi's to step up - they have huge budget surpluses from their oil revenues and we don't need to be supplying over $1billion in foreign aid every year to them

[millionday] tariff taxation is part of the customs law for each country but is described as a percentage and an agreement for each country and their trade agreement with the country in question
[Fresh] sorry I had a phone call come in and had to step away for a second - we have bad weather in our area and family is warning me!


[anthonlcs] IMF on CNN
[millionday] thank you fresh -- actually i have something here on the budget as well and would like to add that the 2013 budget is written completely in the new rate
[millionday] The cabinet also approved yesterday the supplementary budget for 2012 for a total of 10 trillion and 875 billion dinars. Announced the government spokesman, Ali al-Dabbagh said in a statement issued by his press office yesterday that "the Council of Ministers devoted its yesterday to discuss the supplementary budget, which was distributed on the priorities necessary for the needs of the Iraqi state, including Trliuna dinars for projects of the Ministry of electricity and 1.4 trillion for the ration card, and trillion dinars Kt_khasasat of the Ministry of defense and the amount of 830 billion dinars compensation the war with Kuwait. "Dabbagh said that" the supplementary budget has allocated 40 thousand degrees and careers as a need instant, of which 24 thousand degrees to the ministries of defense and interior, while the distributed scores of other ministries and state bodies to install with contracts. "


[Fresh] They also mentioned how they had a closed door congressional meeting in the last week about this situation in Iraq... so it seems this is front and center - Iraq starting to pony up money - and clearly we know there is a back story to this that could satisfy the USA

[millionday] However, he stressed that "the supplementary budget requires the approval and adoption by the House of Representatives." The Finance Committee of the House of Representatives has announced the approach the government to release 40 000 degrees and careers after the first of next July, as he said, a member of the Committee Deputy Secretary Hadi in a statement the "Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network": "The launch of these grades will be according to what installed in the general budget for the current year. "


[anthonlcs] How did they get from 100 billion to 10 Trillion


[jimplants] ok you said completely written in the NEW rate
[millionday] so this is the budget that robin and i were talking about that one day of how they moved the left over from 2011 contracts over and the suplementary amounts

[wheresmyRV?] Any idea when they are going to release the 2013 budget?
[millionday] remember robin how the report was saying they transfered over what was owed and they blended it with the new budget

[millionday] they have completed it and as soon as i get my hands on it -- i will bring it -- i know they finished it in april
[millionday] brb with more
[ROBINREDHED] millionday YUP

[millionday] Washington, DC Tuesday, July 3, 2012 IMF Managing Director Christine Lagarde says the U.S. economic recovery remains tepid and faces two major downside risks; the European debt crisis and the end of the year fiscal cliff. Lagarde delivered the concluding statement for the IMF’s annual U.S. economic outlook report Tuesday. She says the IMF’s recommendation is fiscal consolidation but it needs to be sensible and not excessive.Failure to solve fiscal issues will result in slowed economic growth and global spillover effects, Largarde warned decision delays in solving fiscal crisis & debt ceiling will only hurt economic growth and produce spillover effects to the rest of the world. Updated: 3 hr., 35 min. ago

[deaconfuzz] we can solve fiscal issues by pushing Iraq to RV
[millionday] this is about the next parliament meeting
[millionday] Economy and Investment Committee said about coming parliamentary group recommendations or decisions to amend Iraqi investment law ... She is a member of the Committee and Attorney for the Iraqi list of Nora albegari/JD/Committee reached with set up investment and the private sector to set recommendations or decisions to amend Iraqi investment law. ". Member of the Committee noted the economic and investment

[millionday] they are changing the investment laws during this next one -- the national alliance has completed their papers for resolve -- this is the last one to complete everyones papers from every party in preperation for talabani return

[millionday] so the economic news is simply that the laws that are changing for investment are being changed and voted through for the next session

[deaconfuzz] when is Talabani returning?
[millionday] the customs law is obviously in place and licensing has begun for all importers -- very good news to see trade moving
[millionday] couple days so probably thursday

[millionday] he is expected back by thursday session
[anthonlcs] millionday Next session is the 10th of July
[millionday] robin has had a very hard return trip so lets call it done and let her rest
[letsroll] millionday ... hello,, would the budget written in the "new rate" mean it is showing less Dinar resulting from a higher value ??
[millionday] we have seen already what is important to us and we are waiting for the next session

[para~investigator] cool
[anthonlcs] millionday Is the next seesion on the 10th?
[onthewings] millionday so will we have an anouncement of the National Meeting soon ?
[millionday] they said july 10th but -- they are meeting non stop so -- we shall see -- i would assume all laws will be out to the books on that date
[anthonlcs] millionday ty

[cornsnake64] millionday u da bomb ty
[millionday] yes we will have the announcement of the national meeti8ng soon -- they are ready now
[onthewings] millionday wooooohooooo !
[deaconfuzz] millionday did NA finish their paper?
[millionday] thank you robin -- so glad you are back !! get some rest my friend
[jimplants] a roundtable tomorrow?
[millionday] yes na finished

BULLDOG CHAT, 4 JULY


[Bulldog75] TWO POSTS COMING NOW AT 11PM ; THEN WE DO Q AND A. THANK YOU MODS. AWESOME CREW.

[Bulldog75] # 1: Big Banks’ ‘Living Wills’ Aiming for Bankruptcy Not Bailouts : U.S. regulators, seeking to prevent a repeat of taxpayer-funded bailouts of the financial system, released summaries of plans for breaking up nine of the world’s largest banks in the event of an emergency. The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. and Federal Reserve posted the public portions of so-called living wills on its website today as required by the 2010 Dodd-Frank Act. The documents outline more detailed proposals submitted privately to regulators describing how the companies can be dismantled if they fail. The banks required to file were JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM), Bank of America Corp. (BAC), Citigroup Inc. (coffee), Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS), Morgan Stanley, Barclays PLC (BCS), Deutsche Bank AG (DB), Credit Suisse Group AG (CS) and UBS AG. (UBSN). http://www.bloomberg.com ··· uts.html
[Bulldog75] #2: You might have missed the latest bank scandal, the one involving Barclays Plc (BARC), in the hubbub of last week’s U.S. health-care ruling and euro salvage plan. If so, allow us to fill you in: On June 27, Barclays, the U.K.’s second-largest bank by assets, admitted it deliberately reported artificial borrowing costs from 2005 to 2009. The false reports were used to set a benchmark rate, the London interbank offered rate, or Libor, which affects the value of trillions of dollars of derivatives contracts, mortgages and consumer loans. The bank agreed to pay a hefty $455 million to settle charges with U.S. and U.K. regulators, and on Monday its chairman resigned. Earlier today, Robert Diamond resigned as chief executive officer. Marcus Agius, who yesterday said he would resign as chairman, reversed his decision after Diamond quit and will stay on to lead the search for a new CEO. In an apology to employees before he stepped down, Diamond wrote that some of the misconduct occurred on his watch, when he was head of Barclays Capital, the investment-banking unit. Diamond was already in the doghouse with investors. In April, 27 percent of shareholders, upset that Barclays had missed profit targets, voted down his $19.5 million pay package. http://www.bloomberg.com ··· ure.html

[oktxmam] Bulldog75 Will the Living Wills created by the banks force them to divest themselves of their investment houses and insurance companies so we will return to separation of insurance, investments and banking?

[Bulldog75] oktxmam whatupnoweh : ANSWER: PLEASE READ CLOSELY WHAT IS IN THESE TWO ARTICLES. IF THIS HAPPENED HERE, WHATS HAPPENING ELSEWHERE? THIS IS WHY WE HAVE OVER 600 RESIGNATIONS. LETS TALK Q AND A. THANKS.

[preciousone] Bulldog75 : Is it possible in chat to tell us how to get our license off record that shows on bank account?

[Bulldog75] preciousone ANSWER: YES, THAT CAN HAPPEN. CLOSE THAT ACCOUNT. GO TO SEPARATE OTHER BRANCH BANK AND OPEN NEW ACCOUNT WITH PASSPORT, IF U CHOOSE.

[KAI] Bulldog75 - I read this articles earlier today. Do you anticipate more news along the same lines from other financial big dogs in the next couple of days? My thoughts is that a mid-week holiday is a good time to see final exterminations

[Bulldog75] KAI : ANSWER: WHAT WE WANT TO RECONIZE IS THE CONTINUING 'TRENDS' OF THE BANKING INDUSTRY. WE WILL TALK MORE BOUT THIS LATER. THIS IS PART OF THE GOOD VS BAD.

[river rat] Hello sir , what are oil credits and how do they effect us ? ty sir. i know off the subject ?

[Bulldog75] river rat : HOLD THAT RIVER OF CREDITS. ITS COMING. TY.

[SilverFox] Bulldog75 Based on these articles Bulldog it appears that the stage is being set for much bigger news to come forth. There is a momentum being established. Is there any indication of the next shoe that's going to drop and the time frame for future events and how does this all time back in to the RV.? Thank you.

[Bulldog75] SilverFox ANSWER: YES, GREAT Q. NOTICE THE THREE BANKS NEAR THE TOP OF THE LIST. I AM NOT DEPOSITING AT THOSE BANKS. GET THE DRIFT?

[KettleP] Bulldog75 .... Shabibi did a thesis on economics, Did he not? If so, where can I get a copy of it? Even though the 140 and the Erbil and the HCL were passed - they were not implemented. Is that correct? Just want to get a better handle on Shabibi's thinking.

[Bulldog75] KettleP : GOOD INSIGHT. BUT IRAQ IS OUT OF THE 'RV/CURRENCY EXCHANGE ' PICTURE AS OF NOW. HOLD ON THAT PLS. TYVM.

[JBK] Bulldog If our accounts are insured why is this so detrimental to us personally?

[Bulldog75] KettleP JBK ANSWER: BECAUSE IF ONE HAS AN INSURANCE CLAIM IT MAY BE 50-99 YEARS BEFORE ONE GETS THEIR CLAIM SETTLED. IMHO, I WILL NOT LEAVE LARGE AMTS OF USD IN MY MOTHER-LODE ACCTS. IT WILL BE IN FOREIGN CURRENCY OF : YUAN, HONG KONG, AUSSSIE, CANADIAN, UK OR SWISS

[mrsdinar] No question, just a comment: I enjoyed your conference call on last night - you are indeed the diggidy bomb!!! Thank you for all that you do...

[Bulldog75] mrsdinar : I REMEMBER YOU. BLESSINGS. THANKS.

[olefaithful] Bulldog, After rv,can you just leave your money in the bank>

[Bulldog75] olefaithful : YES, ; BUT, IMHO, MY ACCTS WILL BE FOREIGN CURRENCY MOSTLY. TY.

[Bulldog75] olefaithful : YES, ; BUT, IMHO, MY ACCTS WILL BE FOREIGN CURRENCY MOSTLY. TY

[.schooler] Bulldog75 is this return to glass steagall? separation of ways banks can operate? How will this affect our ideas of how banks work for us in future? re IQD

[Bulldog75] .schooler : NOTICE WF WAS NOT ON THAT LIST ABOVE ~ TY. WE HAVE TO TAKE EXTREME PRE-CAUTIONARY MEASURES.

[kennypth] Bulldog75 .....how will putting our mother load in foreign currency protect us better?

[Bulldog75] kennypth : FOREIGN CURRENCY WILL HOLD ITS VALUE BETTER DUE TO FORTHCOMING ISSUES, EVENTS. TY

[MaeBelle] Bulldog75 Who are Interpol? Do they have authority to come onto US soil and arrest people? Where does the authority come from that would be necessary to do that?

[Bulldog75] MaeBelle ANSWER: INTERPOL. INTER-NATIONAL POLICE TO SOLVE WORLD COURT ISSUES. INTERNATIONAL CRIMES RELATED. WE WAIT FOR THOSE DECISIONS, ISSUES, ARRESTS.

[MISPLACEDBUCKEYE] Bulldog75 it seams that the us is beefing up in the med to stop iran from trying to stop the hanuse strates is the PTB worried about this and also happy 4 to you and all vets

[Bulldog75] MISPLACEDBUCKEYE : GOOD Q; PART OF THIS IRAN IS A DISTRACTION EMBELLISHED TO TAKE US /USA OFF TRACK AND FOCUS OF REAL ISSUES. THOUGHT THERE ARE LEGITIMATE ISSUES WITH IRAN ; BUT WE HAVE TO WATCH THE 'HOME' AND 'CURRENCY EXCH' HAPPENINGS. REMEMBER: DISTRAACTIONS PRIOR TO RATE POST.

[SilverFox] Bulldog75 With the contagion that is going to occur world wide with the collapse of the European banking system what safeguards are in place with other foreign currencies to insure that they will not be dramatically devalued? Thank you

[Bulldog75] SilverFox : ANSWER: THERE CURRENCIES WILL BE BASED ON METALS AND RESOURCES WITHIN THIER COUNTRY. TY.

[jorges] I just joined. On a previous conference call I had the pleasure of talking to you for the first time. I want to thank you for your kind answer and great attitude. You're appreciated Bulldog.

[Bulldog75] jorges : HI. THANKS. GOOD TO SEE U!

[tracker] Bulldog75 can you say how long you believe the "Bad Guys" can hold this RV up?

[Bulldog75] tracker ANSWER: THE CLOCK IS TICKING IN OUR FAVOR!!!

[JBK] Bulldog75 I will admit I am not up on foreign currency. If invested in foreign currency do you also have the insurance protection? Do you make the exchange at the bank and it is held there and as you need it exchange it back to US for use?

[Bulldog75] JBK : ANSWER: ONE WILL HAVE TO OFFICIALLLY CASH INTO USD FIRST. THEN CONVERT. SEE WEALTH MGR ! TY.

[okiegroupie] Bulldog75 Was very nice to finally speak to you last night. Thanks for all you do. So I take this news about the banks can only be good for us as it removes more of the rats. Will we see more of this before the IR - IYHO? Or was this quite the motherload of 'dirt'? <<< BIG HUG WITH HOMEMADE PECAN PIE and COLORFUL FIREWORKS!!!>>>>

[Bulldog75] okiegroupie : RATS ARE BEING GRADUALLY EXTERMINATED AND CELLED. SPECTRACIDE GOOD INVESTMENT.

[CalifBob] Bulldog75 we have a group of about 5 couples who were going to try to cash in together. I am assuming that when we get the codes we will all need individual appointments. One of our folks is friends with a reg. VP of WF. Do you think that will be of any help to us??

[Bulldog75] CalifBob ANSWER: YES, ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A FRIENDLY BANKER! TY

[along4daride] Bulldog75 What foreign currency will hold best, IYO? TY

[Bulldog75] along4daride : ANSWER: PLS SEE ABOVE ANSWERS. ITS THERE. TY.

[buzzard1228] I want to set up a trust to insure that m mother-in-law, and father-in-law are taken care of, what is the max. amount I can set up for them?

[Bulldog75] buzzard1228 : SEE FORUM, SEEK COUNSEL. IMHO, IRREVOCABLE TRUST IS THE WAY. NO MAX AMT. ONE OF YOU BE THE TRUSTEE; NO ATTORNEY OR BANKER AS TRUSTEE. TYU.

[Ezekiel37] Bulldog75 When we have exchanged, How much average is safe to spread in dollars in different accounts/banks not include foreign money. Also could we have the site with the list again, sorry lost the connection and missed.

[Bulldog75] Ezekiel37 : IMHO, I HAVE 80% GOING INTO FOREIGN CURRENCY: YUAN, HONG KONG, AUSSIE, CANADIAN, SWISS, UK, ; TY.

[MISPLACEDBUCKEYE] Bulldog75 I heard that, like Saudi Arabia, Iraq has locked itself into contracts to use only Petrodollars for trading its oil into the indefinite future. How does that impact the RV? Is Iraq ever going to start using its own currency for all business transactions including its oil business?

[Bulldog75] MISPLACEDBUCKEYE : GOOD Q: WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF $$$ FORTHCOMING; CX/ RV. TY.

[.schooler] Bulldog75 will you explain more post RV re how one's funds are kept in banks,etc? or are we doing this at time of exchange IQD at bank?

[Bulldog75] .schooler : CAN BE DONE SAME DAY WITH YOUR WEALTH MGR AT WF. TY.

[MTDinar] Bulldog75 what is your opinion on all the dates/rates used to catch the hackers/bad dooers? thank you

[Bulldog75] MTDinar : EXTERMINATION IN PROCESS.

[georgeaa] bulldog75 I have read the news and read the news on all web sites I could find ..Nobody has the power to tell the big shots what their doing... So now what do we do GO GOLFING???:

[Bulldog75] georgeaa : LIVE LIFE LIKE ITS THE LAST DAY WITHIN REASON. FORE!

[demontrosier] Bulldog75 I created my irrevocable trust in a day, It pays to live in a state's capital.

[Bulldog75] demontrosier : THATS THE SPIRIT! CONGRATS!

[diamond77guy] Bulldog75 , Good evening, sir! Missed talking with you last night, line was too long I suppose. Great call though. Can't wait to hear you sing!   Just had back surgery the other day and was on earlier, must have gone out for a bit. Is Okie on final approach or still circling?

[Bulldog75] diamond77guy : PLANE IS WARMING UP ON RUNWAY!

[river rat] Bulldog75 with the 80% we put in other currency , is that we can cash out at any time we need to ? Ty. its another investment correct ?

[Bulldog75] river rat : YES, PROTECTION OF THE PRINCIPAL. NOT TO WORRY NOW BOUT INTEREST NOW. WAIT 90 DAYS. MARKETS WILL WOBBLE 10-20% AVERAGE. SOME MARKETS 30-50%. BE SAFE.

[MTDinar] Bulldog75 Last question for me as i don't want to monopolize your time...How will the sudden influx of wealth for our country be explained to the masses? by this i mean how will the gov explain 16trillion debt one day, greatly reduced to 0 the next? Thank you and have a happy fourth of july!

[Bulldog75] MTDinar MTDinar : THIS WILL BE VERY QUITE ON THE SURFACE. NO FANFAIR. WE WILL CAUTIOUSLY TAKE ONE DAY AT A TIME. STAY TUNED. TY

[chickenchix] what 3 banks won;t you use?

[Bulldog75] chickenchix chickenchix : SEE LIST ABOVE. BOA AND CHASE AT TOP OF LIST.

[mardom] Bulldog: Regarding the VND, at one point in April it was mentioned that the VND would have a code or possibly be part of the IQD code at the banks after the RV. Is this still in the equation?

[Bulldog75] mardom : YOUR BANK CODE IS THE KEY TO THE KINGDOM OF ALL $$$$.

[northwestnative] Have the rats been digging potholes in Okie's runway?

[Bulldog75] northwestnative : THEY TRIED. NO DEAL . SPECTACIDE.

[dansmom] Bulldog75 When you talk about co-mingling do you mean do not mix it with what we have in our bank accounts now? Thank you for all you do to help us.

[Bulldog75] dansmom : ANSWER: THAT IS CORRECT. BINGO.

[olefaithful] Is your wealth mgr the same as your banker?

[Bulldog75] olefaithful : NOT NECESSARILY. WEALTH MGRS ARE SPECIALIST ; NOT THE TELLER OR RETAIL BANK MGR.

[diamond77guy] Bulldog75 Sorry, I can't see the top of the list, what was the list of banks you wouldn't use, please?

[Bulldog75] diamond77guy : ANSWER: The banks required to file were JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM), Bank of America Corp. (BAC), Citigroup Inc. (coffee), Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS), Morgan Stanley, Barclays PLC (BCS), Deutsche Bank AG (DB), Credit Suisse Group AG (CS) and UBS AG. (UBSN)

STUDLEY & SOONERFAN CHAT, 4 JULY


[Soonerfan62] bluwolf GOOD EVENING MY FRIEND HOW ARE YOU?

[Soonerfan62] STUDLEY ARE YOU ON TOO??????????????

[Soonerfan62] sooner patriot GLAD YOU'RE STILL HERE TO, THIS IS GREAT.

[sooner patriot] Studley Good Evening my friend!

[Soonerfan62] highlander65 HAVEN'T CALLED BULLDOG, WANT ME TOO?

[sooner patriot] wango1 Thank you. You must be talking about Soonerfan62 and gtabdinar! :)

[wango1] Soonerfan62 strength in numbers

[MTGranny] bluwolf Bless you Bluwolf for all you bring and all you do

[MTGranny] Soonerfan62 Just like you to not take credit for the good that you do. TYVM

[Soonerfan62] MTGranny TRUST ME IT IS ALWAYS A TEAM EFFORT.

[hawaii50] Soonerfan62 : Bella and Jonnywg?

[Soonerfan62] hawaii50 WANT ME TO CALL THEM TOO????????????????
[TexasNative] Soonerfan62...so is July 4, 2012 gonna be a new "Independence Day" for everybody in here???

[Soonerfan62] TexasNative SURE HOPE SO.

[TotallyBlessed] Soonerfan62 Hi there!!!!! Good to see you!!!! How are you this evening???

[Soonerfan62] TotallyBlessed I AM ALWAYS GOOD.

[Soonerfan62] AND Papa Bear YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.  GUYS YOU HAVE SOME OF THE BEST INTEL GUYS IN THE WORLD ON NOW, MAN.

[sooner patriot] gtabdinar1 Hey man - glad you're here!

[Soonerfan62] bluwolf THANK YOU MY FRIEND, I AGREE STAY WITH US FOR AWHILE.

[wango1] gtabdinar1 Soonerfan62 sooner patriot well now the brain power is here.

[Soonerfan62] wango1 JURY STILL OUT ON THAT ONE.

[Soonerfan62] GUYS IF YOU WANT SOMEBODY IN INTEL4U YOU CALL SOONER62BUSTERS

[prosperous1] Soonerfan62 ylu are a Vet yo have pulled the Army, Marines, National Guard and [Soonerfan62] prosperous1 YES I AM... ARMY.

[Soonerfan62] GUYS ALL THE VETS AND/OR THEIR FAMILIES STEPPING UP TONIGHT WAS WONDERFUL. I WAS GLAD TO BE A PART OF THAT.

[Diane Marie] Soonerfan62 ~ you were AWESOME SIR.

[Soonerfan62] Diane Marie JUST A GUY WITH A MISSION.

[MTGranny] Soonerfan62 Thank you Soonerfan62 and all veterans for your service.

[Soonerfan62] MTGranny YVW

[bigdaddytim] Soonerfan62, several other sites have published news that the potential of the removal of the zeroes can mean the dreaded three letters that everyone hates. Do you have intel or publications that you can recommend to refute the claims?

[Soonerfan62] bigdaddytim YEA DON'T LISTEN

mountainman] Soonerfan62 by chance do you remember the Bradford Hat Co from the 60s ?

[Soonerfan62] mountainman HEY MY OKLAHOMA FRIEND, NO I DON'T.

[redsnowbird] GrannieAnnie We should put that on Recaps....all of the great Vets and their [GrannieAnnie] redsnowbird that would be nice, but the room was scrolling so fast not sure if our mod was able to capture it all.

[sooner patriot] bigdaddytim Smoke - don't waste any time on it and don't bet on it happening!

[gtabdinar1] bigdaddytim I wouldn't pay too much attention to that my friend....good reading but lot's of smoke.

[mountainman] Soonerfan62 what size cowboy hat do you wear and do you like silverbelly hats

[Soonerfan62] mountainman LIKE ALL COWBOY HATS, 7 3/8... STETSON.

[pick3king] Soonerfan62 what was the deal with vets and family.

[Soonerfan62] pick3king WE WERE HONORING THEM ON THIS SITE.  PEEPS THAT NEVER CHAT CAME FORWARD, IT WAS AWESOME.

[bandit] Soonerfan62 No wonder you got smartness- you got a large head

[Soonerfan62] bandit MY HAIR DON'T THIN.

[justaguy] Soonerfan62 Did you notice how humble all of our vets were? Impressive.

[Soonerfan62] justaguy YES I DID, CLASS WITH A CAPOTAL C.

[Soonerfan62] GUYS STUDLEY WAS ON THE PHONE, HE WILL BE HERE SOON.

[bigdaddytim] Soonerfan62 Is he on the phone with Shabs?

[Soonerfan62] bigdaddytim KNOWING HIM HE COULD BE.

[Soonerfan62] YOU KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN GREAT TONIGHT? WE HAVE HONORED ALL THE VETERANS AND I HAVE NOT BEEN BOMBBARDED WITH QUESTIONS, YOU GUYS HAVE LET ME ENJOY CHAT, AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

[studley] Hold your horses everyone, two issues that keep cropping up, number one, the Chinese. DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, WANT TO SEE US LOOSE OUR MONEY, AND THE SYSTEM HAS TO BE COMPLETELY SAFE. SECOND, THEY ARE STILL TAKING CERTAIN KEY INDIVIDUALS OUT OF THE WAY. ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT: IRAQ HAS METICULOUSLY TAKEN THE LARGE DENOMS OFF THE STREET, THE HIGHEST BILL ON THE STREET IS 500 DINARS, WHICH AT THIS RATE IS 42 CENTS, IRAQ NEEDS A MONEY SUPPLY AND FAST. ALSO, THE WORLD NEEDS CAPITAL INFUSION IMMEDIATELY, THIS IS A TIMING ISSUE, AND DON'T FORGET, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO BE TAKEN DOWN AROUND THE WORLD, LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO BARCLAY'S BANK, AND FORMER FRENCH PRESIDENT SARKOSY. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A COMPLEX PROCESS AND TAKES TIME, HANG IN THERE, AND GOD BLESS.

[RdRiver] Soonerfan62 studley seems to think we might be far out,,,or do I not understand please?

[studley] RdRiver NO, DO YOUR HOMEWORK, READ AND DECIPHER, BECOME A CRITICAL THINKER, CONSTANTLY ASK WHY THESE THINGS KEEP HAPPENING, AND WHAT ANGLES ARE BEING STRESSED?

[studley] I AM STILL ON PHONE, ALL QUESTIONS TO THE SOONER BROTHERS.

[steveg] As studely says - this is complicated with major components involved. Appears there is still much work to do or am I missing something....

[Soonerfan62] steveg WORK BEEN DONE. 

[Soonerfan62] GUYS HAS BENN AND FUN NIGHT, HAVE REALLY ENJOYED EVERYONE TONIGHT. I WANT TO CLOSE AS I OPENED, VETS WE REALLY APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVIVE. GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE, LOVE YA GUYS AND WILL BE BACK TOMORROW, I PROMISE, COULD BE A GREAT DAY, GOOD NIGHT.

[studley] THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE IN CURRENCY PLAYS: THEY WILL NEVER LET YOU KNOW HOW CLOSE WE REALLY ARE, I WILL GIVE ANOTHER CLUE, EVERY TIME THEY SAY IT IS GOING DOWN, AND PUT OUT TIMES, DATES, AND RATES IS TO SET UP THE CROOKS THAT HAVE BEEN ROBBING THE WORLD FINANCIAL SYSTEM, ALWAYS ASK WHY INFO IS PUT OUT, THERE IS HIDDEN MEANINGS TO EVERYTHING, ALSO, THIS IS A PROCESS, STUDY THE PROCESS.

[ready4bank] studley got it, Ty.... Watching the markets and news really bring the pieces together.

[studley] ready4bank AWESOME, SEE THE PATTERNS THAT DEVELOP, WATCH THE STEPS, THEY ARE SLOWLY REVEALING MORE AND MORE OF WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING IN THE CORRUPT FINANCIAL AND POLITICAL SYSTEM, THIS IS A WORLDWIDE EFFORT TO NOT RELEASE THE GLOBAL SHIFT.

[faithhope] studley the Art of war...  

[studley] faithhope EXACTLY, WATCH HOW METICULOUS THE ARE, THEY HAVE PUT KEY INDIVIDUALS IN CORNERS THEY CAN'T COME OUT OF, THEY USE QUICKSAND BETTER THAN ANYONE.

[sonnayhwh] So, when you hear the plane is circling, it's really acquiring its targets.... ;)

[studley] sonnayhwh VERY GOOD.... THEY CAN'T COME OUT AND LET US KNOW EXACT PLACEMENT OF THIS EVENT, USE ALL YOUR SENSES.

[studley] highlander65 RdRiver THEY HAVE TO RELEASE IT IN SUCH A WAY AS TO PROTECT THE SYSTEM AND MAKE IT SAFE AGAIN FOR EVERYONE, THIS IS WAY BIGGER THAN IRAQ, ENTIRE SYSTEMS ARE CHANGING, INSTITUTIONS ARE RESTRUCTURING, AND MASSIVE LIQUIDITY IS BEING RELEASED, THIS IS EXTREMELY COMPLEX, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THIS IS NOT ONLY A FINANCIAL SHIFT, BUT ALSO, A POWER SHIFT, AND THEREFORE, THE PTB ARE FIGHTING THIS TOOTH AND NAIL CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO LOOSE THEIR POWER.

[fawkesfire] studley so it is not only watching the plays but listening and paying attention to what is not said also.

[studley] fawkesfire EXACTLY, SEE WHAT THEY ARE SAYING, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY HEAR WHAT THEY DON'T SAY, READ BETWEEN THE LINES, CRITICAL THINKING.

[tangowoman] studley If we invest in foreign currency on exchange, should we hold it physically? Is it safe if it is with an electronic account?

[studley] tangowoman LOOK INTO FOREIGN CURRENCY ACCOUNTS IMO

[RdRiver] studley thanks so much,,,i totally see your perspective.

[studley] RdRiver I CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH, OKIE IS OKIE, HE IS ALL HEART, HE IS A WARRIOR, BUT SOMETIMES HE JUST GETS TOO EXCITED, HE IS TRYING TO KEEP EVERYONE IN GOOD SPIRITS, I AM HERE TO BACK HIM AND OTHERS UP WITH A FINANCIAL BACKGROUND UNDERSTANDING.

[studley] santafe VERY GOOD, IT IS PART OF THE SHIFT INTO A MORE TRANSPARENT SYSTEM

[studley] moonchild GREAT POINT, SHE IS ONE OF THE LAST HOLDOUTS, THE INSTITUTIONS YOU MENTIONED ARE KEY TO WATCH.

[steveg] studley a few weeks back you suggested we read Drake - do you still agree with his position on how this is going down?

[studley] steveg I SUGGEST YOU READ EVERYONE WITH A POUND OF SALT, AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT YOUR OWN PUZZLE, NO ONE KNOWS EVERYTHING.... MAYBE A COUPLE DO, BUT THEY CAN'T SPILL ALL THE BEANS.

  [sonnayhwh] studley but doesn't an asset backed currency translate to a reduced middle class?

[studley] sonnayhwh POWER IS BEING METICULOUSLY TAKEN AWAY AS WE SPEAK.

[myprayerrealized] studley Would it be an accurate statement to say that there is no way of knowing how close we are to an rv?

[studley] myprayerrealized THAT IS PART OF THE PLAN TOO, IF SOMEONE KNEW EXACTLY HOW CLOSE WE ARE: NUMBER ONE, IT WOULD BE A SAFETY RISK, AND NUMBER TWO, YOU CAN LOAD UP AND LEVERAGE THE SYSTEM, THEY DON'T WANT THAT.

[babybaby] studley would you be my James Bond man and bring this home ...I ask Soonerfan62 but got no answer....thank you

[studley] babybaby I WILL TRY.

  [sonnayhwh] studley but doesn't an asset backed currency translate to a reduced middle class?

[studley] sonnayhwh POWER IS BEING METICULOUSLY TAKEN AWAY AS WE SPEAK.

[tangowoman] studley Is there anything to gain in letting the whole world fall apart to hold back the rv?

[studley] tangowoman FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOSING POWER THERE IS.

[TIME4RVNOW] studley studley Is Chase bank is included with the equal package deal you negochiated with Wells Farg? Due to a history of Bankruptucy WF would not open a trust account, I had to open one at Chase. Thank you

[studley] TIME4RVNOW NO, THE CODES WILL ONLY WORK AT WF, SPECIAL EXCHANGE THERE.

[gabby1] Studley Remember when we used to have "windows" of opportunity... Is it still like that or can this REALLY happen at anytime like everyone is saying?

[studley] gabby1 ANYTIME.

[santafe] Studley are Credit Unions safer than banks (depending on their rating) ??

[studley] santafe PARTLY YES.  BANKS THAT ARE COMPLYING WITH THE NEW TREASURY SYSTEM WILL BE THE SAFEST.

[firenice] Studley is rv the massive liquidity that is being infused now?

[studley] firenice PARTLY.

[RdRiver] studley did you see my question about reserves? If WF will hold the rate till we reel in the dinars from the dealers?

[studley] RdRiver SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM, WF WILL BE ACCOMMODATING TO THAT ISSUE.

[wheezer2] studley would you please expound on "false manipulation"

[studley] wheezer2 CAN'T GO INTO THAT

[1biz4u] studley are we any closer to seeing the coming to fruition????????????????

[studley] 1biz4u OF COURSE

[studley] Catbite WF IS THE PRIMARY BANK OF THE NEW SYSTEM, THAT IS WHY WE PICKED THEM

[studley] sweetpea I AM NOT A FINANCIAL PLANNER, BUT WF, BECAUSE OF POWER OF ALL PEOPLE STICING TOGETHER, SHOULD HAVE GREAT RATE FOR EVERYONE

[sooner patriot] steveg I believe that investigation will proceed after the RV. It will not slow the one bit!

[ready4bank] studley last week you said you would look into a list of perks that the banks could offer us, is that still in the works? ty

[studley] ready4bank YES.

[studley] sooner patriot THANKS FOR THE HELP.

[sooner patriot] studley Your welcome. Hoping you didn't mind!

[sweetpea] studley I have USAA accts, consider it a good one, but they do not exchange foreign currency. So I would have to cash out with WF, who may require a large chunk of my money to stay in their bank, and then transfer to USAA. IS this a wise thing to do?

[studley] sweetpea I AM NOT A FINANCIAL PLANNER, BUT WF, BECAUSE OF POWER OF ALL PEOPLE STICKING TOGETHER, SHOULD HAVE GREAT RATE FOR EVERYONE.

[gtabdinar1] sweetpea That is still a great investment strategy....keep up the good work.

[MTGranny] studley Thank you, just looking for another opinion is all. Appreciate your info as always. Have a great 4th

[studley] MTGranny IMO, OTHER CURRENCY EXCHANGES WERE NOT FED TAXABLE, I DON'T BELIEVE THIS ONE WILL BE EITHER, EXCEPT FOR STATE TAXES.

[steveg] sooner patriot but is that consistant with item 2 of studleys original post?

[sooner patriot] steveg Yes. Don't worry about it.

[studley] sooner patriot NOT AT ALL, ANSWER WHATEVER YOU WANT.

[sooner patriot] studley I agree that this is a non-taxable event, if based on all the other previous RV's, even prior to Kuwait as well.

[studley] sooner patriot EXACTLY.

[studley] bamatom NO ONE WILL KNOW SPECIFICS UNTIL THIS IS RELEASED

[studley] misskitty05 YEA, WF

[sooner patriot] On the taxability of this event though, be sure to contact a tax professional just to be sure a tax law hasn't been slipped in unnoticed!

[sweetpea] studley Do you think that the packages with WF would require us to keep a large amt of our money in their accts, which would play a part in our ability to diversify?

[studley] sweetpea I DON'T BELIEVE SO, IMO, BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE KNOWN UNTIL RELEASE.

[tangowoman] studley If a bank requires us to keep a certain amount in USD in the account....1. is there a max amount of USD you feel safe to keep there 2. Can a bond be used in its place to satisfy the requirement?

[studley] tangowoman I'M NOT FINANCIAL ADVISOR, CAN'T ANSWER.

[misskitty05] Studley not to be dense but are you saying WF is the only bank that is compliant with the new system at this point? If not, how do we locate other banks?

[studley] misskitty05 I CANNOT, BASED ON MY POSITION, GO INTO THAT, WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS WF, IN MY OPINION IS SAFEST, MOST COMPLIANT BANK AS OF NOW, AND HAS SAID THE RATE WOULD BE AMAZING

[gabby1] This may be a dumb ? but... Everyone keeps talking about the bad guys.A lot of bad guys are known for having 2 sets of books, the real one and a fake. Is it possible that the PTB are faking us out and already doing "business" and secret deals,behind closed doors pertaining to the RV? Who would know?

[gtabdinar1] gabby1 First of all....there is never a dumb questions. Second of all....yes it may happen....but we will never know the truth as it is between the PTB, sovreign nations and powerfule individuals and companies.

[sooner patriot] gabby1 There will always be bad guys trying to get an advantage in some way. Count on it, but you and I probably have no way of controlling it. Just be as vigilant with what you have and try to keep yourself out of situations that open your holdings up to the bad element.

[faithhope] studley will they extend the FDIC after Dec 31st 2012?

[studley] faithhope DON'T KNOW, LOTS OF UNANSWERABLE QUESTIONS BECAUSE OF GLOBAL SHIFT

[sonnayhwh] studley iyo, will the asset pool the USD is based on adjust in value, allowing the currency supply to rise/fall?

[studley] sonnayhwh IT WILL BE LIKE A DAM THAT BURSTS, ALL CURRENCIES WILL FIND THEIR NATURAL LEVEL BASED ON ASSETS, IT WILL BE A MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT SYSTEM.

[MTGranny] studley I have a concern that the Dod Frank protection will not be extended into 2013. That means we must take care of investments and planning now in less than 6 months. What do you think, Studley?

[studley] MTGranny I DON'T BELIEVE DODD-FRANK WILL BE VERY USEFULL IN THE FUTURE, THEY WILL COME UP WITH BETTER SAFEGUARDS, ALSO, DODDFRANK ACT IS DECEIVING, LIKE OUR PRESIDENT, LOOKS LIKE A PROTECTION, BUT REALLY BIG CHUNKS ARE NOT EVEN WRITTEN YET, CAN BE USED AGAINST THE PEOPLE, IMO.

[sooner patriot] MTGranny If I might add, I think you'll have ample time to find a place for your funds. Please, please, please seek the help of progessionals to help you make these critical decisions. Make sure about that though. I'm hearing it isn't final as yet. Keep a close eye on it just to be safe.

[steveg] gtabdinar1 Finally - someone that tells us who the bad guys are. That helps me understand and who and what to watch for.

[gtabdinar1] steveg Not necessarily the bad guys.....just the Powers That Be....that was the question. Hope that clears it up a little more.

[wheezer2] studley do you have any suggestions as to how we can find a competent financial advisor in this new banking/finance environment? what about your bank?

[studley] wheezer2 PART OF WHY I DID WHAT I DID IS TO GET PEOPLE THAT USE THE CODES INTO THE TOP AREAS OF WF WEALTH MANAGEMENT, WHAT YOU DO WITH THAT IS UP TO YOU.

[xyz] I was to sell all my dinars on thur but i will wait a couple more days

[gtabdinar1] xyz Find something else but not the Dinars my friend!!!

[trebor1859] xyz I'm beginning to agree

[gtabdinar1] trebor1859 See my two posts above.....pleeeeeease!!!

[sooner patriot] trebor1859 While there is a lot of frustration out there, do not sell your Dinar and forever kick yourself of what could have been. My dad had a chance to buy Walmart stock at a pre-IPO rate and kicked himself the rest of his life for not investing $1,000 into what would have been billions now!

We're talking way before the IPO when Sam was building his first store in Arkansas. His brother-in-law lived two houses down. With all the splits the stock has had, we've been told billions.

[bamatom] studley Are you now saying we should not get the non interest bearing Dodd-Frank accts at WF?

[studley] bamatom I AM NOT A BANKER, OR FINANCIAL ADVISER, I WOULD FIND ACCOUNTS THAT SUIT YOU PERSONALLY.

[sooner patriot] bamatom You will not need an account with WF before exchanging dinars. You can start a new account with them at the same time. Bank officials have verified this to me very emphatically.

[studley] bcrt1 WHEN CODES COME OUT, SO WILL LOCATIONS, AND ALL IMPORTANT SPECIFICS

[studley] RdRiver i WOULD BE CONCERNED BOUT RESERVES, I AM NOT ONE THAT RECOMMENDS THEM, DINAR IN HAND IS KEY

[studley] shybabi IMO, WF WILL OFFER THE MOST COMPETITIVE RATES BASED ON SPECIAL EXCHANGE.

[pyromommy] studley sooner patriot if we have a personal WF banker do we still call the 800# for our appointment?

[sooner patriot] pyromommy Unless you've been told otherwise by your personal WF banker, you will need to call the 1-800 number.

[studley] pyromommy NOT SURE OF PROTOCOL YET, IT WILL COME OUT SOON

[bamatom] studley There was talk one time about WF maybe paying off reserve balances for us so we could exchange with WF have you heard any more on that subject

[bamatom] studley There was talk one time about WF maybe paying off reserve balances for us so we could exchange with WF have you heard any more on that subject

[sailman] studley Will WF be able to exchange Canadian dinar holders??

[studley] sailman NOPE, EACH COUNTRY HAS ITS OWN FUNDS FOR EXCHANGES

[addylou] wango1 is the EIN# for businesses or individual also?

[addylou] studley just got in..trying to catch up....are you saying not to open Dodd-Frank account at WF?

[studley] addylou I WOULD, IMO, OPEN ACCOUNTS THAT YOU DISCUSS WITH WF, YOUR ACCOUNTANTS, AND ANYONE ELSE YOU TRUST, DON'T ASK PEOPLE IN CHATROOM WHAT TYPE OF ACCOUNTS TO OPEN, TALK TO PROFESSIONALS.

[sooner patriot] studley Amen my friend. We need all peeps to realize that with money comes the responsibility to see responsible, professional help. Only amateurs use Uncle Vinny and we "Ain't" amateirs no mo'.

HAPPY 4th of July!!!!!!!!!!!!

Financial expert: the dinar to the economic stability needed to be a desirable out of Iraq, 4 JULY


Financial expert: the dinar to the economic stability needed to be a desirable out of Iraq

Baghdad (news) .. Attributed the financial expert, wholesome Elias Abou, the cause of the unwillingness of countries in the world to deal with the Iraqi dinar to the fluctuation in the rate of exchange against foreign exchange and the absence of political and economic stability in the country.
said Abbou (of the Agency news) said on Wednesday: The monetary policy pursued by the central bank responsible for rejection regional countries and international dealing in Iraqi dinars, because they do not allow the exit of large amounts of local currency abroad and restricted passengers to take limited amounts of the dinar when traveling.
He added that the Central Bank of afraid to enter the counterfeit currency when allowed to enter and exit currency of Iraq, but allowed to get out of the country will force the countries in dealing with and become internationally accepted and has a real value against other currencies.
and between: that the Iraqi dinar needs political stability and then the economic goal of diversifying revenues and increase the total production of the country and maintain the rate of exchange against foreign currency as dollar to become the dinar currency international desirable in all countries of the world.
and often complains of Iraqi pilgrims and travelers from non-treated countries in the world, especially neighboring countries in Iraqi currency abroad for fear of fraud or speculation, as well as the continued decline of the value of the dinar against the dollar.
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CBI set a date early next year to launch the new currency, 4 JULY


CBI set a date early next year to launch the new currency

Select Central Bank of Iraq beginning in 2013 put forward the date for the new Iraqi currency after deleting three zeros of them, said Central Bank Governor Sinan Shabibi that there are many measures and many misgivings on the bank is keen to implement the process of currency exchange, safe and easy.
As indicated by the Finance Committee’s parliamentary Majida al-Tamimi that “the cost of the actions dedicated to the currency exchange at 150 million dollars,” adding that “the currency exchange and withdrawal be gradual through the process of deposit in banks,” saying,
“The withdrawal of currency be gradual and not once as in the switch Previous “, and noted that al-Tamimi,” the Finance Committee to follow up the work of the Central Bank and to share what is going on the process of printing new Iraqi currency. “
The parliamentary Finance Committee had revealed earlier in the contract for the central bank with major companies to be printed currency from a high-quality paper
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Parliamentary Finance: budget 2013 will be the new currency after deleting three zeros, 4 JULY


Parliamentary Finance: budget 2013 will be the new currency after deleting three zeros

Parliamentary Finance Committee announced Tuesday that the budget next year 2013 will be the new currency after deleting three zeros from the current currency, arguing that the reluctance of traders and companies from trading in Iraqi currency behind the adoption of the Central Bank of the project to delete the zeros.
Said committee member Najia Najib said in an interview for “Alsumaria News” that “the budget next year will handle the new currency after deleting three zeros from the current currency,” stating that “the process of switching the currency and delete zeros will take approximately two years after the preparations for the process that began more than a year “.
The answer that “the Council of Ministers approved during the meeting the Governor of the Central Bank on the project to delete the zeros and replacing Iraqi currency after it decided earlier in the patient as the project due to rising dollar on the domestic market for the past few months,” noting that “the project to delete the zeros and currency exchange aims to restructuring of the Iraqi currency and the form in which to do business in line with Iraq’s internally and externally. “
And confirmed the answer that “the Finance Committee and the Central Bank had agreed at its last meeting to be next year’s date for the start delete the zeros and the balance of 2013 the new currency unless there was a barrier transmitting without it,” emphasizing “the need to support the government and parliament of the project to restructure the Iraqi currency.”
Najib and considered that “the reluctance of traders and companies from the use of Iraqi currency and trading it may push the central bank to adopt a project to delete the zeros,” asserting that “this project would reform the system of currency management and to facilitate their use.”
The Finance Committee hosted (26 June), Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of the appearance of Mohammed Saleh to discuss the mechanism that will be followed by the bank in the process of deleting the zeros and how long this process and changes that will occur on the exchange of currency.
A member of the Finance Committee in Jubouri Haytham (15 May 2012) in an interview for “Alsumaria News”, the month of January of next year 2013 will see the deletion of three zeros and the replacement of the currency, as will next September 2012, the direct printing of new currency in different categories.
The central bank accused in the (12 September 2011), government bodies obstructing the monetary reform and vowed persecuting, blaming the authorities responsible for exposing the financial interests of the country to danger.
What was seen as an adviser to Prime Minister for Economic Affairs (25 August 2011), to raise zeros from the currency is the biggest corruption in Iraq if it was during this period, and fall under the name of tampering with the economic, warning of “mafias currency” is preparing to rig the trillions of Iraqi dinars to replace them in light of the planned changes.
It is noteworthy that some economists believe that Iraq is ready for the time being to delete the zeros of the Iraqi dinar, pointing out that the deletion needs to be a security and political stability as well as economic stability.
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