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Thursday, June 21, 2012

SOONERFAN CHAT, 22 JUNE


[soonerfan62] GOOD EVENING GUYS AND GALS. I WANT TO COME IN FOR A WHILE AND CHAT AND BRING YOU WHAT I CAN BUT FIRST I WANT A FEW MINUTES FOR ME. I WANT TO SAY TO ALL OF YOU I AM 62 YEARS OLD AND HAVE NEVER HAD AN EXPERIENCE LIKE THIS IN MY LIFE AS THIS RIDE ON THE INFAMOUS IQD.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES OUT OF YOUR TIME TONIGHT TO EXPRESS MY HEARTFELT THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR BEING SO PATIENT AND RESPECTFUL TO ALL OF US THAT TRY OUR BEST TO KEEP YOU INFORMED.

I WANT TO PERSONALLY THANK OKIE, FREEWAYBILL, STUDLEY, LOJAK, DEBTARHEEL, FOOTFORWARD, BULLDOG, TEXRED, TOM, TEX, IGTENNIS, QF1, SHASTA7, BLUWOLF, GENERAL64, VIC1, JONNYWG, BELLAGRITS, SWEETQUEEN, PAPAJACK1052, PAPABEAR, JOHNNY AND OTHERS THAT SOME OF YOU DON'T RECONIZE THERE NAMES, THAT I TALK TO MOST EVERYDAY AND HAVE FOR A LONG, LONG TIME. WITHOUT THEM, YOU WOULD NEVER SEE SOONERFAN62 IN HERE. 
I GUESS WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY IS WITHOUT THESE GUYS, SOONERFAN62 AIN'T SQUAT. I THANK ALL THE MODS HERE AS WELL AS 3SINTEL AND OOM FOR ALWAYS GIVING ME THEIR UPMOST RESPECT AND ALWAYS KEEPING ALL OF YOU UPBEAT AND POSITIVE.

INTEL: IF YOU HAD ANY IDEA HOW CLOSE WE ARE YOU WOULD ALL READ THIS POST WITH A BIG SMILE ON YOUR FACE. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SAY MY PEACE AND I WILL ANSWER ANYTHING THAT I CAN OR THAT IS ALLOWED. SOONERFAN62

[greek1212] Sooner all most other intel providers under NDA, r u?

[soonerfan62] greek1212 NO

[blessing] Soonerfan62 is bella ok we have not heard from her just checking to make sure she is ok.. Thanks

[soonerfan62] blessing HAVEN'T TALKED TO HER IN A COUPLE OF DAYS

[ram1] soonerfan62 Do you feel this ride will be over by the end of this month? Thanks for all you do.

[soonerfan62] ram1 YES

[duffy] Soonerfan: Why did 2 other intel providers on phone calls today say that we won't be dealing with banks on the bank pdgs?? They said be careful and it's a scam. Your thoughts>>>

[soonerfan62] duffy DON'T CARE WHAT THEY SAY, LISTEN TO PEOPLE ON THIS SITE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH

loumat] soonerfan62 Wells Fargo was NOT downgraded today..is it from lack of exposure to European sovereign debt or the imminent RV, or both?

[soonerfan62] loumat NO THEY ARE STRONG

[fawkesfire] soonerfan62 Bella once said that sadly when things are falling down..like they are now it seems...it would be our time...the timing and legistics thing...your opinion? Thank you

[soonerfan62] fawkesfire GOOD POINT

[blessing] soonerfan62 I heard I can move the tassel on my Cap by Tomorrow Night? You think thats true? Thanks for all you do.. GOD BLESS YA

[soonerfan62] blessing OR BEFORE I HOPE

[newbeginning] soonerfan62 Seeing the key words entering on the networks such as CNN like Global bailout Global stimulus ect do you think this is how they are going to present the RV PP & GS to the world?

[soonerfan62] newbeginning YES IT WILL BE INDIRECT

[newbeginning] soonerfan62 So do you think that someoen will be able to take credit for this Global Bailout such as Mr. O?

[soonerfan62] newbeginning THE PTB WILL SEE TO IT HE DOESN'T GET THE CREDIT

[Serendipity] soonerfan62 I don't want to ask stupid questions. And I hate to repeat questions you hear day after day. I do wonder if the extra time that this is taking is changing our basket any--Is Chine wanting to go over the wall with the VND as was rumored a few weeks ago, or not probable still?

[soonerfan62] Serendipity THEY WILL NOT

[heartfelt] Good Evening soonerfan62 Your opinion if the National Meeting if needed? I'm assuming that is a no with your earlier comment but do you have an opinion if needed?

soonerfan62] heartfelt NO BEARING IMO

[newbeginning] soonerfan62 Do you think Drake's intel is on about the upcoming arrests? And if yes do you think RV before Arrests?

[soonerfan62] newbeginning SOME BEFORE, SOME AFTER, IN FACT A LOT AFTER

[fawkesfire] soonerfan62 when the time is right will you grace us with bringing in the announcement with Okie?

[soonerfan62] fawkesfire NO THAT IS HIS AND HIS ALONE, THE GOOD NEWS, I WILL KNOW BEFORE YOU GUYS LOL

[paiaboy] soonerfan62: Aloha from Hawaii, just wanted to say that myself and friends of mine here in Hawaii always follow you and all the Intel in here, there is no need to go anywhere else. In Hawaii the word "Ohana" means family and we have a great Ohana here in the group/chatroom they are all a class act.

[soonerfan62] paiaboy I AGREE, AND THANKS

[rnort] soonerfan62 Do you think those with reserves will have time to get them and cash in at the bank or will we have to cash with who owns the reserves?

[soonerfan62] rnort DEPENTD ON EXPIRATION DATE

[newbeginning] soonerfan62 I noticed after about 6 weeks of announcements of huge inroads into the US banking economy by the Chinese that I havent read much the last 7-10 days do you think they have completed all they want to get & are ready to push for the completion of the RV or do you think they arent done yet?

[soonerfan62] newbeginning THEY ARE READY

[SGD3] soonerfan62 We are getting pretty desperate at my house and just received more bad news today... Please tell me I will be put out of my misery soon. We so need some good luck (RV) right now

[soonerfan62] SGD3 MANY ARE, WE ARE PRAYING FOR ALL OF YOU FOR THIS TO END SOON

[blueblaze1962] soonerfan62 Good evening, just came in for a few...Don't know if you heard FootForwards call tonight but he said he expects this to be done by the end of the month..do you agree? Or do you think sooner?

soonerfan62] blueblaze1962 YES AND YES.

[loumat] soonerfan62 Are the price jumps in commodities over the past couple of weeks consistent with pricing in the RV?

[soonerfan62] loumat DON'T KNOW

[hawaii50] Soonerfan62: Are we lookin good for the next few days? If you can't say, that's ok. I missed your update.

[soonerfan62] hawaii50 SURE, I BELIEVE WE ARE

[book2] soonerfan62 is it most likely to happen on a weekend when banks around the world are closed?

[soonerfan62] book2 NO, ANYTIME NOW

book2] soonerfan62 is anyone manipulating the markets, or are the trends acting on their own?

[[soonerfan62] book2 WHO REALLY

[keiji] soonerfan62 Is Studley positive and excited?

[soonerfan62] keiji VERY

[sharonsdinar1] soonerfan62 Just got on is there any news that would suggest we could have an RV before the weekend.. anything that is sharable

[soonerfan62] sharonsdinar1 YES AND NO

[kimskennelklub] soonerfan62 [wango1] soonerfan62 What is the level Gold and Oil have to drop pre RV ?

[soonerfan62] kimskennelklub DON'T KNOW

[booyah] soonerfan62 does it look like all the markets are lining up for this to finally pop?

[soonerfan62] booyah JUST THE WAY WE WANT THEM TO

[cruiser] soonerfan62 Bluwolf said the other night that the RV happened April 8th (first basket). My thought is that it did on that date. The People in charge, then decided that it would not be a good idea to post that first basket and wait til the other 2 baskets(or at least 1 basket) be ready to go, to prevent a double dip scenario. Am I crazy for this thought?

[soonerfan62] cruiser YOU ARE NOT CREZY AND AS YOU KNOW BLU IS A GOOD FRIEND, BUT ALL MUST RV TOGETHER

[soonerfan62] cruiser WOULD CAUSE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MANY PROBLEMS

[geterdone] soonerfan62 do expect the financial markets and bank situation to get worse to make this pop or do you think they may intervene with the new banking system prior to it getting really bad and having runs on our bank

[soonerfan62] geterdone I THINK THE'RE BAD ENOUGH NOW

[loumat] soonerfan62 Will the sanctions on Iran that become effective July one predicate a necessity for the RV so Iraqq can replace Iran's oil production in the market?

[soonerfan62] loumat DOESN'T MATTER

[vic406] With currecies pairing europe on the verge but most of all the bank down grade is there any better time to pop?

[soonerfan62] vic406 NOPE, NOW IS THE BEST TIME IMO

[firenice] Soonerfan62 if this does not go tonight or tomorrow, can it go Sat or Sun?

[soonerfan62] firenice SURE ANYTIME NOW

[soonerfan62] GUYS I WILL GIVE YOU A SHORT CLOSE TONIGHT: BE READY, LOVE YA GUYS, BE BACK TOMORRUW, GOOD NIGHT

BONDLADY POST, 21 JUNE


6-21-2012 Bondlady: As far as Okie's intel, I don't go along with or approve of the majority of it but about 3 months ago when he was saying so many different things and calling the RV done. I decided to investigate him just to see if he was who he claims to be and what type of man he was. I didnt really tell anyone much about me doing this. Like I said, I may not agree with his intel but as a man I did a pretty through search of him. I'll tell you all a small bit of what I found out. Per his oil field back ground thats all true. He owned his own drilling company and he contracted for other big oil names which I won't name. As far as his military back ground goes, that's all true too, he was even wrote up in a Oklahoma paper as basically a hero. He in 1991 created a device that would find the mines that saddam put out all over the place. I can't speak for his intel. In my opinion it kinda reeks or it was never proved right. I'm not defending anything or any one. I'm just giving you all facts about what I learned.

TERRYK CHAT, 21 JUNE

TERRYK] MORNING ALL YOU CRAZY PEEPS WHO HAVE DINAR IN THEIR POCKET
[TERRYK] READY TO SPEND
[TERRYK] OPPS PINK
[TERRYK] UGGGGGG
[TERRYK] MUCH BETTER
[TERRYK] MORNING ALL
[TERRYK] PINK HURT MY EYES
[TERRYK] SO WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT MY NEW FORMAT FOR THE CALLS
[TERRYK] IRAQ IS BACK ON THEIR FEET
[Dee1031] ok
[TERRYK] AND REMEMBER ABOUT 8 MONTHS AGO ALI SAID IT COULD NOT RV MORE THAN .10 AS WELL
[TERRYK] HE DON'T KNOW
[TERRYK] HE IS A DINAR SELLER
[Dee1031]    true
[TERRYK] THATS IT
[Studmuffin]    did you watch the ww2 video? 
[TERRYK] YES I DID
[TERRYK] IT MADE ME SIT BACK AND GO WOW
[Dee1031] I'm listening to last nights call right now
[TERRYK] THANKS
[Studmuffin]    my pleasure 
[TERRYK] WE HAVE A GREAT TEAM
[TERRYK] FOR THE CALL
[TERRYK] LOOKING TO BRING MORE IN
[TERRYK] ALOT OF INTEL DISCUSSION
[TERRYK] ITS LIKE FOX IN THE MORNING ALMOST
[TERRYK] WE ARE GOING TO CALL IT DINAR AT NIGHTS
[TERRYK] OR DAN FOR SHORT
[TERRYK] DINAR AT NIGHT
[Dee1031] ah got it
[TERRYK] SO I AM HEARING THIS AM THAT SOME OF THE SO CALLED GURU'S ARE SAYING TONIGHT OR FRIDAY AS WELL
[TERRYK] HMMMMM
[DINAR BANKER] Good morning everyone!
[TERRYK] WHEN I READ ALL THE NEW GURUS NAMES IM THINKING TO MYSELF WHO ARE THESE PEEPS AND WHERE HAVE THEY BEEN THE PAST FEW YEARS
[TERRYK] I AM BEING TOLD BY A GREAT FRIEND AND SOURCE IT IS IN MAY
[bjj (Barb)] How are your friends in Reno TerryK , do they have appointments yet?
[TERRYK] THEY HAVE A MEETING FRIDAY
[TERRYK] IS WHAT THEY TOLD ME
[TERRYK] THEY ARE FED UP THIS IS TRIP NUMBER 3
[TERRYK] BUT THESE ARE WHAT SOME CALL THE WHALES
[TERRYK] IT IS NOT 42 RGONE
[TERRYK] ITS NOT .10 RGONE
[TERRYK] ITS BETWEEEN THE TWO
[TERRYK] TAKE A SHOT
[rgone]    ty    
[TERRYK] YOU MAYBE RIGHT
[rgone]  TerryK  Last nights call was probably the best I've heard since you started this site Terry. Job well done!  
[TERRYK] THANKS RGONE
[TERRYK] COMING FROM YOU THAT MEANS ALOT
[TERRYK] I'M TRYING TO FIND THE RIGHT FORMAT THAT PLEASES THE PEEPS
[TERRYK] SPREAD THE WORD RGONE IF YOU WOULD
[TERRYK] OK ALL I GOT TO GO PUT IN A SPRINKLER LINE IN MY YARD 
[TERRYK] BEAT UP ON GREG TODAY
[TERRYK] HE RAN OUT OF THE SCRATCH AND SNIFF MOUSE PADS ALREADY
[TERRYK] I THINK HE WAS SCRATCHING THEM AND SNIFFING
[TERRYK] LATER ALL

RANDY KOONCE UPDATE, 21 JUNE


How you makin it Weatherford Tx.

I am dropping a note to bring you up to speed with where we are at...... The last letter and call said that Maliki had to do 3 things.

1. Announce GOI

 2. Resign

3. No Confidence vote. ( I do not believe that Maliki will go through that.)

Since there has been no movement on what has happen there has been no need for a call..... We are still looking for the same thing.
  The National Meeting. to announce the Ministers and strategic counsel and as the articles have been saying they are working on those things....

Why after going so fast to just stop...... Well the only thing I can say is when Biden went over there everything has slowed to a crawl....

So it is telling me that Obama stepped in and slow the process for Maliki to obtain support to remain Prime Minister.

Just because I have not said much in the last couple of weeks does not mean all the other crap like the .86 and the printing of the currency is true... the articles of the printing came out in 2007 and it is just a reproduce article........ the .86 is still just a misinterpreted article that the western people have picke up......

I promise not to let you miss the RV but we still are looking for the National Meeting. I cannot give you anymore than what i have said and what I am saying is truth.....


The .86 will not let the budget open so that will not happen...... only a number to make the budget balance lets the budget open..... that is one reason the US has not got a budget in 3 years.

BGG, POPPY AND SWFLORIDAGUY REPLAY CC, 21 JUNE

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DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 21 JUNE

6-21-2012  Intel Guru BOBGETZ6   [new guru]   I wanted to come in and say something about the rates being thrown out there today. There is no way, IMO, that the Iraq budget can be sustained with those one to one or less exchange rates period. Also, does anybody think that Iraq would come in substantially under Kuwait? I think not. As far as the end of the ride, I am convinced that we may well be done by Monday. If not, the back end, as I have heard it, would be two weeks away, July 5th. We are definately near the end...I am grounded, stable and would not consider selling my dinar nor bury my head in the sand. This is the real deal and I feel as if we are on top of the finality.

6-21-2012  Intel Guru Bulldog75    IF THIS COMES IN HIGH; AND IMHO PROB WILL; CASH OUT AND GET OUT...OOM [OkieOilMan] WILL BRING THE LATEST WHEN IT OCCURS. WE ARE AHEAD OF THE CURVE...YOU WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO KNOW WHEN THIS EVENT OCCURS.

6-21-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy  The dinar is not considered a promisary note, we will be able to exchange them outside of Iraq and the CBI must be honor them at face value. Article 32 Paragraph also states that the CBI must honor them in accordance with the law. "Article 32 Issuance of currency. 1. The CBI shall have the exclusive right to issue banknotes and coins for circulation in Iraq. Banknotes issued under this Article shall be a first charge on the assets of the CBI.  ["continued in post 3...stay tuned"]

6-21-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana  Since we know the CBI plans to introduce the new currency in or around January, and we know they can't have a significant RV until they are out of Chapter 7, and we know they need a little time to resolve the HCL...doesn't it seem like everything is falling in place right at the same time? Personally, I don't believe in "coincidences" like these. It seems to be very well orchestrated, and gives me hope that things are indeed moving forward as planned. ["continued in post 5...stay tuned"]

6-21-2012  Newshound Guru BGG  Maliki still has only three options are: 1) To fully implement all previous agreements – his opponents not only don’t believe him to be sincere, they aren’t crazy about letting him stay at all. 2) Resign just prior to an official vote in Parliament (which is a very strong possiblity) 3) Try to fight it – through the end of a vote in Parliament. He may well do this – but if he does, he knows the “prognosis” for winning is bleak and what comes after a loss is even more bleak.

6-21-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy  Redenomination Vs. Revaluation. I take the latest article from the Finance Committee as a great sign. They are saying the new currency "will increase by three zeros, indicating that they had an extensive study concluded that the lifting of the zeroes will strengthen the value of the Iraqi currency." Some people speculate the plan may be a redenomination, followed by an RV, where we would make a profit of around 3x what we paid. I disagree with this. Our money will be worth face value for a year. The "000" notes will be legal tender but they will not be equivalent to those notes without the "000s," which is why there has to be an effort to remove them from circulation in country, prior to raising the value. The large notes will retain their value and there will be 2 choices, trade in for lower denoms we can hold indefinitely or exchange for another currency, in our case USD. ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]

6-21-2012  Intel Guru Bluwolf   A LITTLE HISTORY...CHINA WAS CHOSEN BY THE GLOBAL BANK AND THE IMF TO BAIL OUT AND PAY FOR ALL INTERNATIONAL RELEASE, FOR CHINA HAS THE BEST ECONOMY AND THE MOST MONIES OUT THERE...THAT IS WHY THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF THIS SUBJECT.  THINK FOR A MOMENT CHINA WILL NOT AND I REPEAT WILL NOT GIVE UP IT'S CHANCES OF CAPITALIZING ON BOTH THE DINAR AND THE VND, IT IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME EVENT.

6-21-2012  Newshound Guru Breitling  Every 4 months is when the U.N. security committee gets together to decide if Iraq gets out of Chapter 7 or parts of the regulations of Chapter 7, it's every 4 months, so the next one is in October.

6-21-2012  Newshound Guru Vic1  I TRULY BELIEVE...THEY HAVE PUSHED THIS AS FAR AS COULD...NO MORE...ROOM! IT HAS GOTTA GO DOWN.

6-21-2012  Newshound Guru Mike  You can tell they are serious about moving forward with the Vote of No Confidence folks…This is not a dead deal…we’ve said it has just begun…lots going on – they have the ability once Parliament is in – The President of the Parliament can bring this up for a vote – I think they may try – we will have to see what happens on Thursday when they are in….so As the World Turns with Government of Iraq we get closer and closer to it.

BOBGETZ POST, 21 JUNE

BOBGETZ6] I wanted to come in and say something about the rates being thrown out there today. There is no way, IMO, that the Iraq budget can be sustained with those one to one or less exchange rates period. 

Also, does anybody think that Iraq would come in substantially under Kuwait? I think not. As far as the end of the ride, I am convinced that we may well be done by Monday. If not, the back end, as I have heard it, would be two weeks away, July 5th. As far as taxes go. My attorney says that it is not a federal taxable event and that he believes there is case law to support that. My CPA, as well, does not think it is taxable. 

My state does not have an income tax so that is not a problem for me. I am not a guru, just convinced based on my contacts which I trust implicitly. I do not appear on that side >>>>>>>>> of DinarRecaps. In no way am I trying to give tax advice, just stating opinions of professionals. We are definately near the end, so don't let folks make your mind lose it's focus nor listen to all that is out there. I am grounded, stable and would not consider selling my dinar nor bury my head in the sand. This is the real deal and I feel as if we are on top of the finality. Relax, breathe and enjoy your life. Why not?

BWM CHAT, 21 JUNE


SALTYDOG: BWM Ok coach what seems to have slowed us down

BWM: SALTYDOG you know it's fun hearing all the reasons and excuses for things... I just don't deal well with those... I'd rather hear someone tell me they don't have a clue rather than making up some "reason" something didn't happen which puts the blame away from them...

wittsend: BWM Have you read AzHeat most recent post in forum and would you agree with it?

BWM: I haven't talked to him in depth in a few days... but I feel he is being safe based on information he knows...

stevhens777: BWM Do you think all currency will rv the same day or just the dinar?

BWM: I think it'll be the dinar and all or perhaps others minus the dinar... just have to see...

punkin: Hi BWM just got on the chat for the first time today...can you tell us what is actually going on? Please.
BWM: Still looking... lots of information going around...

indigo: BWM do you think the vnd would have a chance of going in any group that would/could/might go separate from dinar? thank you

BWM Yes I do... it's not the first choice... but an option

wittsend: BWM What happened to all of the folderol surrounding the Chinese wanting the VND to go immrdiately? Was it purely BS, VND pumping, or have cooler heads prevailed upon the Chinese

BWM: wittsend everyone wants the most value out of this they can get...

wittsend: BWM Yes, that stands to reason especially from the VN and Chinese perspectives. But there are factors, some important, that augur against that as well.

wittsend: BWM Any intel on just how long VN or China may wait on the dinar?

BWM: wittsend I think they still have both targeted at the moment...

wittsend: BWM ...to go in the same basket, if i may finish your thought.

BWM: that is ideal... but yes I don't think China will wait if the "September" and such discussions continue

wittsend: BWM Some have suggested that the VND could have a 2-stage RV, both w/o support from IQD, then with. Nothing new on that front, I guess.

BWM: I've heard that... and it would work... and it wouldn't bother me a bit

sfmhi: BWM - it's so difficult to understand that as times goes by the Chinese are still pushing/helping this RV. And, I've been eating chinese religiously every week paying my homage to them. geez

BWM: we discuss the "double dip" frequently... but if anyone is looking to do that it's China... they hold mass amounts of both dinar and vnd and stand the most to gain from this... not even getting into not having to deal with the U.S. debt that they couldn't get rid of if they had to

wittsend: BWM Ultimately, that may happen if the IQD stands pat for that September timeframe. Frankly, I have a hardtime seeing the IQD go that long, notwithstanding the tea leaf readers bleatings saying so.

BWM: I personally don't see it going that long with current information... we'll see how things go and watch from there

punkin: BWM I have people calling me all the time that have given up and they keep asking What is so secretive about not being able to get information........and I tell them I do not know. So please tell me what to tell them.

BWM: They can't expect to know everything about all things... sometimes you just have to accept the fact that you have to believe in something

MRP: BWM Someone was talking about the banks losing money, and I've heard all sorts of figures. Is any of this true, and if so, relevant to the RV?

BWM: MRP when you are limited by your operating procedures it limits your ability to make money... so I'd say there is some truth there... not to mention staffing costs for training and hours..

BWM: ok.. got to jump off for awhile... will try to get back later on...

BULLDOG CHAT, 21 JUNE


Bulldog75] 2:33PM CST: BULLDOG75 POST: THE FORSEEEN 'MARKET WOBBLE OF 10-20%' THAT WE MENTIONED 6 MONTHS AGO IS GRADUALLY OCCURING. TODAY ALONE HAS SEEN A '2-3% SWAY' IN GOLD, SILVER, DOW & OIL. THIS WILL PROBABLY CONTINUE IN A DOWNWARD SPIRAL, IMHO. THIS IS NO CAUSE FOR ALARM AS WE HAVE TRIED TO PREPARE ONE FOR THIS COLOSSAL RV EVENT.

SEEK IMMEDIATE COUNSEL OR QUALITY ADVICE FOR ALL 'TRUST' PAPERWORK. TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED. ALL PAPERWORK, BANK ACCTS, IRS RETURNS, LEGAL DOCUMENTS, PASSPORTS, SECURITY MEASURES SHOULD ALREADY BE IN PLACE. OOM WILL BRING THE LATEST WHEN IT OCCURS. WE ARE AHEAD OF THE CURVE AT THIS SITE. YOU WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO KNOW WHEN THIS EVENT OCCURS. (end).

[Bulldog75] Goldfinger : ANSWER: YOU ARE NOT A DAY LATE AND A DINAR SHORT. YOU ARE A DAY EARLY AND WAITING ON A 'DINAR FLOAT
 Bulldog75] IslandDancer : WONDERFUL DAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

[Bulldog75] blueblaze1962 : YES, MORE INFO COMING. PLS HOLD

crawdaddy] Bulldog75 can i ask you a banking question? i thought i was all set up, but may have a flaw in my plan

[crawdaddy] i set up a bank account in my state using a nevada adress, was now told that the account number will show my state not nevada, and i will have to pay my states corp tax, sound right to you?

[Bulldog75] crawdaddy : CONTACT UST , ASAP BY PHONE AND RECTIFY PROBLEM. THANKS.

[4:07:05 PM] Sednet1: [Bulldog75] OTHER INFO: MOODY'S TO UNVEIL BANK DOWNGRADES TODAY AT 4PM EST SOURCES SAY. GLOBAL BANKS UNDER REVIEW SINCE FEBRUARY. THIS COULD BE BIG. WE WAIT. TAKE CARE OF ONE'S LEGAL PAPERWORK PLEASE.

RCM] Bulldog75 do you think parliament will actually meet the weekend or postpone again?

[Bulldog75] RCM : NOT IMPT.

Bulldog75] CONGRESSIONAL ISSUES, DEBT CEILINGS, WHERE INVESTORS GO UNDER THESE CONDITIONS ARE MAJOR CONCERNS!!!!! STAY LIQUID.

[doghouse] Bulldog75 - my daughter holds dinar, she does not bank with WF but wants to cashin with them, she has no money to open an acct now, can she open an acct at cashin time??

[Bulldog75] doghouse : YES SHE CAN; BUT GET IN LINE. . BLESSINGS. DOW DOWN 3% / 250PTS

[gocon1429] bulldog75 if this turns out to be a non taxable event, lets say 7days to cash out high, should we cash out all dinar

Bulldog75] gocon1429 : IF THIS COMES IN HIGH; AND IMHO PROB WILL; CASH OUT AND GET OUT

Bandit] Bulldog75 -With gold and oil down today, does this move us in the right direction

Bulldog75] CRUDE DOWN TO 79 ! WOW.
[CanadianBacon] Gold down to 1550

[Bulldog75] bbwantsrv : WE BLESS EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE .
[Bulldog75] TY

Bulldog75] WE MANIFEST WHAT WE THINK, FEEL, KNOW, PRAY AND DECLARE. WE BLESS THE UNIVERSE AND EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD. AMEN.
[inhisarms] Amen!

Bulldog75] geterdone ; CASH DIRECT INTO THE TRUST. LESS COMPLICATIONS. IMHO.
[Bulldog75] TY

Bulldog75] I LOVE U ALL. KNOW THAT WE ARE ALL HERE FOR A REASON. WE ARE CHOSEN. OUR NEW FOUND WEALTH IS POWER. 10% OF THE GROSS GOES TO THE KINGDOM.

[Bulldog75] STAY LIQUID. BUY NO BANK PRODUCTS. NO INVESTING FOR 90 DAYS. MARKETS WILL CONTINUE TO WOBBLE 10-20%. STAY POSITIVE. WE ARE SAFE AND BLESSED

[Bulldog75] tweety ANSWER: DOUBLE DIGITS PROB UP TO .10 . THANKS. (VND)

[sue47] Bulldog75 - with the downgrade of the banks will we find it easier to negotiate home mortgage payoffs?

[bamb] Bulldog75 Bulldog75 I need your advice... smart jentelman   ... Wells Fargo will not open my personal trust acount due to history of bankruptsy .... but they did open my LLC business account.. I would like to have my trust with Wells Fargo.. rather then other banks.. what should I do? thanks a million 

[Bulldog75] bamb : GO TO DIFFERENT WF LOCATION.

[Bulldog75] irkaola : FOREX IS UPDATING AT TIMES.
[Bulldog75] DEPENDING ON SYSTEM AND WHICH ONE.

Bulldog75] Papajack : HI. WELCOME !!! PLS TAKE OVER Papajack : I MUST GO. THANKS.
[4:07:10 PM] Sednet1: Bulldog75] BLESSINGS TO ALL. WE ARE ALMOST THERE. STAY TUFF LIKE A BULLDOG.

[4:11:00 PM] Sednet1:
[Bulldog75] DUO: ANSWER: THE TWO TRUSTS THAT I HAVE ARE: #1) Irrevocable, Discretionary, Non Grantor, Complex, Spendthrift Trust AT : WWW.911TRUST.COMAND #2) BUSINESS TRUST, SEE Jim Jenkins jimscd@comcast.net

Searcher] Bulldog75 We are planning to convert most of our into other currencyl. Do you think this to be a wise path at this time? jyho

Bulldog75] Searcher : ANSWER: YES , IMHO; CONVERT TO: SWISS, AUSSIE, CANADIAN, HONG KONG DOLLAR, YUAN. BLESSINGS. GONE.
[4:13:13 PM] Sednet1: Bulldog75] OhanaNena : NO FRETS OR SWEATS; BUT IMHO, STAY OUT OF THE MARKETS AND ANY INVESTMENTS FOR 90 DAYS. LET MARKETS SETTLE. PROTECT PRINCIPAL; NO WORRY BOUT INTEREST. DISREGARD WOLVES. WE ARE AHEAD OF THE GAME AND CURVE HERE. BBL TONITE.
 

BOBGETZ POST, 21 JUNE


6-21-2012 BOBGETZ6:  I don't listen to the "Talking Heads." However, I do have contacts of my own and I do have a good feeling about these next two days. I think that they look very good. The "Talking Heads" just seem to recycle each others information and I don't get that from the contacts I know. I feel very positive about the investment and the ride should end very soon.

BLUWOLF POST, 21 JUNE


6-21-2012 Bluwolf: A LITTLE HISTORY. CHINA WAS CHOSEN BY THE GLOBAL BANK AND THE IMF TO BAIL OUT AND PAY FOR ALL INTERNATIONAL RELEASE, FOR CHINA HAS THE BEST ECONOMY AND THE MOST MONIES OUT THERE. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF THIS SUBJECT. THINK FOR A MOMENT CHINA WILL NOT AND I REPEAT WILL NOT GIVE UP ITS CHANCES OF CAPITALIZING ON BOTH THE DINAR AND THE VND. IT IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME EVENT.

ADAM MONTANA POST, 21 JUNE


6-21-2012 Adam Montana: Since we know the CBI plans to introduce the new currency in or around January, and we know they can't have a significant RV until they are out of Chapter 7, and we know they need a little time to resolve the HCL, doesn't it seem like everything is falling in place right at the same time? Personally, I don't believe in "coincidences" like these. It seems to be very well orchestrated, and gives me hope that things are indeed moving forward as planned.

KAPERONI POST, 21 JUNE


6-21-2012 Kaperoni: Almost daily the same questions arise, the same insecurities or the same fears. There is absolute proof in these forums that a revaluation of the dinar is coming. I want to make you aware of a post/chat I did some months ago pertaining to a "paper" that Dr. Bakri wrote in Iraq. This "paper" is the most conclusive evidence we have. He "matter of factly" states without question what the "present authorities have decided to change the Iraqi currency to a new currency" over the other choice which is a LOP. So, there is no guessing, no wondering, no confusion, no misdirection. It is unequivocal!

SCOOTER POST, 21 JUNE


6-21-2012 Scooter-EG: I hope these banks are now ready to reboot. They like June 30 for some reason, not certain exactly why that is. This is a major structural benchmark for the Iraqis. HUGE IMO.

It's been on the list of things to complete sinced the 2006 MOU (Memo of Understanding).

They had so many accounts out of control it was terrible. Ernst and Young reported it was the worst case of a bank audit they had ever seen but that was back in 2007. Too much corruption, too many open accounts all over the world. 
Imagine if you take those two government banks that do over 85% of all the countries transactions and you now clean the books up and Re-Value/Devalue their assets, they've essentially changed the valuation of the whole country and that to me is a starting point.

I see many changes in 2013. The part that I liked was the line that discussed the new currency. It translated weird -- but it's very intriguing to see the timing and release of this information from the council of ministers.

They will deploy a HYBRID solution, they will introduce the lower notes and methodically suck in the larger notes. While at the same time increasing their CPI values of products and goods.

The real question will be their economy and how well they diversify and begin their primary bond market.

Those will determine the sustainabilty of any rate. If you remember the World Bank reform program for Iraq concludes in October of 2013.

So, I can see them start to introduce the new notes in 1st or 2nd quarter of 2013 and start the process. It could be sooner than that if they have the printing presses rockin those notes out.

BGG DINAR UPDATES BLOG, 21 JUNE


Update: I’m doing another “Blog on the move” (throughout the day) – SO STAY TUNED…

Maliki still has only three options are:

1) To fully implement all previous agreements – his opponents not only don’t believe him to be sincere, they aren’t crazy about letting him stay at all.

2) Resign just prior to an official vote in Parliament (which is a very strong possiblity)

3) Try to fight it – through the end of a vote in Parliament. He may well do this – but if he does, he knows the “prognosis” for winning is bleak and what comes after a loss is even more bleak.

 *** Current News ***

Iraqi parliament speaker: Prime Minister still could face vote to oust him for hoarding power

By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, June 21, 6:29 AM

BAGHDAD — The speaker of Iraq’s parliament reaffirmed Thursday that lawmakers are prepared to oust the nation’s prime minister if he refuses to share authority with his political opponents and break a deadlock that has all but paralyzed the government.The threat by Speaker Osama al-Nujaifi, a leader in the Sunni-dominated Iraqiya political coalition, counters a claim last week by Iraq’s president that there is not enough support in parliament to call a vote to push Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki from power.

Speaking to reporters Thursday, al-Nujafi said he personally believes al-Maliki, a Shiite Muslim, should step down from the job that he barely won after national elections in 2010 failed to produce a clear winner.

Since then — and particularly after U.S. troops left Iraq last December — critics have accused al-Maliki of sidelining his political opponents and violating agreements to share power within a unity government.

 The political deadlock has all but brought Iraq’s government to a standstill so far this year….

 Last week, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, said a preliminary count of lawmakers who want al-Maliki to step down fell four short of the 164 votes needed to force the issue. But al-Nujaifi denied that, saying that while a few lawmakers backed off, “the number is still enough.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iraqi-parliament-speaker-prime-minister-still-could-face-vote-to-be-ousted-for-hoarding-power/2012/06/21/gJQATaOHsV_story.html

I told you when we get close the mainstream media would start picking it up!! Wow!! It’s a long article but worth a look see and it’s all in plain English ;)

Breaking News… Nijaifi: Constitution authorizes parliament to hold its session in any province

Baghdad (AIN) – The Speaker, Osama al-Nijaifi, stated that the constitution allows the parliament to hold its session in any province in Iraq.

In a press conference on Thursday, Nijaifi said” The parliament chairmanship has the right to choose the place to hold its session because the constitution allows it to do that.”

“We can choose any place at any province to hold the parliament session, but at current time the suitable place to hold the parliament session is the parliament building in Baghdad.” /End/

http://www.alliraqnews.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=12686:breaking-news-nijaifi-constitution-authorizes-parliament-to-hold-its-session-in-any-province-&catid=35:political&Itemid=2

I believe this to be from the news conference today – and it is a very, very interesting turn of events. He’s basically telling Maliki to put the barriers back in place or they will move Parliament and hold it someplace safe. He will be interrogated (at a minimum) - one way or the other.


Sadrists: Files are ready to question al-Maliki is a large

Sumerian News / Baghdad

Revealed the Sadrist movement led by Muqtada al-Sadr, said Thursday that the files for questioning Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has become ready, while pointing out that it involves “breaches” of human rights and “corruption” and “harness” the judiciary and security services, likely to rise to the withdrawal of confidence by blocks other than the Iraqi List.

The MP said the block free of the stream Alshahyla Jawad said in an interview for “Alsumaria News”, “the Legal Committee, composed of six MPs, which was formed in Erbil for the preparation of files, questioning Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has completed its work and the files are ready and complete.”

The Alshahyla that “those files for some breaches of human rights and financial and administrative corruption,” adding that “some of the other of meddling in the judiciary and security services and Tschaarhama.”

He Alshahyla that “large files and attached evidence,” saying it would “rise to the level to convince the msses is affiliated to the coalition or Iraqi Kurdistan or Liberals, to a vote of no confidence.”

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.alsumarianews.com/ar/1/43414/news-details-.html&usg=ALkJrhjCKUSsMaskQscSWQQTU3dRmfXI8w

Though there are conflicting reports out. Sadr seems to think there is plenty of evidence to bring Maliki to ruin. This would not surprise me at all!!

Here are some interesting headlines…

Urgent. المالكي يطالب بعقد جلسة استثنائية لمجلس النواب الفرات نيوز Maliki calls for convening a special meeting of the House of Representatives

If Maliki were in such great shape (politically) why would he be trying to preempt a vote at every turn??

*** Rumor Comments *** June 21st!!

Rumor – Today will be a good news day, no need to waste time on rumors.

SWFLORIDAGUY POST, 21 JUNE


SWFloridaGuy] Redenomination Vs. Revaluation. I take the latest article from the Finance Committee as a great sign. They are saying the new currency "will increase by three zeros, indicating that they had an extensive study concluded that the lifting of the zeroes will strengthen the value of the Iraqi currency." Some people speculate the plan may be a redenomination, followed by an RV, where we would make a profit of around 3x what we paid.

I disagree with this. Our money will be worth face value for a year. The "000" notes will be legal tender but they will not be equivalent to those notes without the "000s," which is why there has to be an effort to remove them from circulation in country, prior to raising the value. The large notes will retain their value and there will be 2 choices, trade in for lower denoms we can hold indefinitely or exchange for another currency, in our case USD. 
[SWFloridaGuy] The dinar is not considered a promisary note, we will be able to exchange them outside of Iraq and the CBI must be honor them at face value. Article 32 Paragraph also states that the CBI must honor them in accordance with the law. "Article 32 Issuance of currency. 1. The CBI shall have the exclusive right to issue banknotes and coins for circulation in Iraq. Banknotes issued under this Article shall be a first charge on the assets of the CBI.

The CBI shall make appropriate arrangements for the issue of its banknotes and coins as required for circulation in Iraq. Banknotes and coins issued by the CBI and intended for circulation are not promissory notes , bills of exchange ,or any other type of commercial document under the applicable commercial law, and the CBI is obliged to honor them only as provided for in this law." We've seen articles that point to a redenomination and that is exactly what we should expect to see.

[SWFloridaGuy] Shabibi himself said in DC, when it comes to the possibility of a revaluation of the IQD, it depends upon inflation, stability and is something they must hide from the public, for obvious reasons. More than just hide from us though, with the attention this has received it's imperative to the process to actively suppress anything that supports a revaluation and their goal is (and should be) to throw us off the scent. They do need to educate the public of the upcoming changes though and the only way I can see doing this is by saying they will introduce a new currency with the zeros removed and reference countries in the past who have gone through a RD.

[SWFloridaGuy] It would be implausibly foolish to reference Kuwait and tip their hand to the world. Shabibi is by no means a foolish man. Iraq does not have hyperinflation and they are one of the wealthiest countries in the world. This plan has been in the works for quite some time and no one wins unless they revalue.

It's my opinion that we're going to see the zeros removed and the exchange rate raise somewhere on par with the USD, like the SIGR report suggested. Over time this may raise to become the strongest currency in the middle east (which includes more factors than just the highest exchange rate) but initially 1:1 is a huge jump and if it revalues the way we want it to, presents many challenges in and of itself.

These are just my opinions, which seem to be evolving over the years and I absolutely could be wrong. I don't pretend to have this figured out and am not an expert by any means. I enjoy hearing both sides of the redenomination vs. revaluation debate and can appreciate aspects of both arguments.

[SWFloridaGuy] I'm just hoping for the best like everyone else.

RUMORS FROM DINARLAND, 21 JUNE


daniandquin] LET ME ENCOURAGE YOU ALL: I HAVE HEARD NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NEGATIVE IN THE LAST 5 DAYS. NOT A SINGLE HINT OF A PROBLEM OR DELAY . EVERYTHING I'VE HEARD IS THAT WE ARE THERE. WE WAIT ONLY FOR THE RATE TO GO LIVE. THAT'S IT. I'M VERY VERY EXCITED AND YOU ALL SHOULD BE TOO!!!!

 [garban] Hey everybody, just got on. Does anyone know if the s&p bank down grades will have any affect on our RV?

[andisgram1] cruiser so what time does market close?

 [cruiser] andisgram1 4pm est

care888] cruiser ...so are u saying after 4 the banks will be downgraded then possibly an rv?

cruiser] keep this in mind,, I am just piecing this together. The bank downgrade may have nothing to do with the RV, but it will cross one more thing that has to happen off the list.
[care888] cruiser ...what else is on the list that we can watch?....smokin70s ...not meaning to, just jumped on for some info and trying to figure this thing out....i mean no harm to anyone

[cruiser] just find it odd, because the bank downgrade was suposed to in May, actually the begining of May, and it took 2 month for it to happen (hopefullt today)....

[cruiser] care888 lets see if the bank downgrade does something. Let that happen, and if the RV occurs we will know if that was it. If it does not, then we know it was not... Really went on a limb there....

[care888] cruiser ....at least if gives us something to watch when we don't know what to watch, lol

highlander65] I'm back!! Just heard that after the bell 17 banks and other fin. agencies may be downgraded by Moodys. Everyone expecting something big after the bell... Has anyone else heard that?

[hollyberry] highlander65 with banks being down graded, I'd think tomorrow there would be lines outside!

[highlander65] hollyberry well they were downgraded in the past and that didn't happen -- as far as lines. This was on Bloomberg

[highlander65] Guatie 17 Lenders and securities - talking now on Bloomberg

 [highlander65] more downgrades to come after today on same banks!!!

 [highlander65] pulaski U know these banks just passed the stress tests so what the heck is going on?

[hollyberry] gsi3000 Well yeah, this isn't real time so it's delayed by 15 min but gold is down 37+ and the dow by 176 those are indicators

[Guatie] highlander65 I remember reading someone talking about bank downgrades, may have been Vic

[bluefrog] the USD is up by over 1% is VERY rare!

 [gsi3000] hollyberry does the target get to look any better? or are we still chasing rainbows

 [mrsdok] Everything seems to be lined up...now we just nd the RV to pop!!!

[highlander65] bluefrog well as cruiser said yesterday - they need to prop it up cause when this happens could drop significantly.

[highlander65] hollyberry exactly on cross hairs lol

[hollyberry] gsi3000 I don't think we'll be chasing anymore but I am hoping to see a rainbow up there over all of us in red, white and blue colors

[pulaski] highlander65 I believe it to be as cruiser suggested this morning that it is another piece of the puzzle that needs to happen

[paiaboy] so what do you say the RV will be release after the Stock Market Closing Bell on Friday? instead of the Last Bank in USA closing?

paiaboy] I wonder if the Banks will be open on Saturday for a exchange?

[paiaboy] the NY stock market has what hour and a half to go?

 [highlander65] paiaboy yes

[RFrost] hollyberry wow crude oil is down to 78 and gold down 49 to 1565. Interesting day

[hollyberry] RFrost has the NYSE gone above 200 yet?

[mbillions] Dow down 218 points

[paiaboy] NYSE 215 points down baby

[z1world] oil $78.25

[IshMan] z1world The metrics are great for an RV

 [RFrost] hollyberry Dow is down 210

 [hollyberry] RFrost going down folks, down, down, down

[highlander65] RFrost yes crude is so low I can't remember when it was at this level last

[prissynell] 209 stk market down gold 48.00 oil 78.00

MED CHAT, 21 JUNE

Med says to (17:34:12): OK GANG FIRST OFF AND I SAW IT YESTERDAYWHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW WITH THE GOI MEANS NOTHING IT DOESNT MATTER IF TALIBANI RESIGNS OR WHATEVER

IT DOESNT MATTER IF MALIKI IS HERE OR GONE JAN 1 OR 2013 THE NEW CURRENCY WILL BE OUT TO RUN SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE LARGER DENOMS

stlou says to (17:35:55): http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...309#post126309

Med says to (17:36:47): INTERESTING I WONT HOLD MY BREATH LOL

stlou says to (17:37:12): time will tell on that one..

Med says to (17:37:17): THE RATE OF EXCHANGE WILL INCREASE SOMETIME BETWEEN NOW AND DEC IT CAN HAPPEN ALL AT ONCE OR IN STAGES THAT IS WHAT I BELIEVE AND NONE OF THAT IS A GUESS IT IS ALL IN THE FORUMS

CHATTER IN DINARLAND, 21 JUNE


laurelei] Great quote of the day (and one of my favorites): “The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it." – Michelangelo

Highhopes: Want to start your day with a smile-watch this:

http://www.flixxy.com/jive-aces-bring-me-sunshine.htm

[UNEEK] Good Morning All - Wednesday was Humpday - Thursday is Hypeday - Friday is Hyperday - Sat is Hohumday - Sun is Humhoday - Mon is just Humday and Tues is Hoday – Now if we could just make one of those our RVday!!!!

BOBGETZ6] UNEEK As you know, I don't listen to the "Talking Heads." However, I do have contacts of my own and I do have a good feeling about these next two days. The "Talking Heads" just seem to recycle each others informaton and I don't get that from the contacts I know. GM

hub] BOBGETZ6 you thinkin the next couple ofdays looks good,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[BOBGETZ6] hub I think that they look very good.
[Gators] there is a distinct pattern in Dinarland for many years. Wednesday night the hype starts rolling in and heads towards the weekend. Then Monday and Tuesday the same questions and anxiety why it did not happen

[BOBGETZ6] Gators That indeed has been the pattern and the same recycle and slightly changed information.

[Gators] BOBGETZ6 Just curious how do you feel about this investment and any idea where we are with this investment? It seems after many years on this ride the doubts really creep in.

[BOBGETZ6] Gators They do creep in for some, but I feel very positive about the investment and the ride shoud end very soon, I hate to use the word soon.

[His girl] BOBGETZ6 We don't really care to hear the word "soon" but all other apt descriptions have been worn out too! Lol

BOBGETZ6] His girl GM going to look in my thesaurus and see if I can find something better.

[UNEEK] BOBGETZ6 -- I would like to see the word "imminent" and it be literally for real :):)

[BOBGETZ6] UNEEK How about using either "shortly" or "promptly?"

[His girl] Hmmmm synonyms for soon?

[His girl] soon - Synonyms In the near future : anon any minute now, before long, betimes ,by and by ,coming down the pike ,directly ,early ,ere long ,expeditiously ,Following a time, event : a while later ,after ,another time ,at a later time, behind, by and by ,ensuingly ,eventually ,in a while, intra ,Sooner than expected : advanced ahead of time ,anticipative, anticipatory, before appointed time, beforehand, direct, immature ,immediate, matinal

[Precious] good morning everyone

[Precious] there is very good read by vic in recaps..read it all

[Precious] so much news this morning I cannot bring it all in

[Precious] this must be an important week

[Precious] seems all started moving toward our rv again

[Precious] BRB

[trex] Gold down $19.50 = $1588.30 and Silver down .62 = $27.50, what's your take

[heartfelt] trex IMO this is very good news. I had always heard we wanted gold down to about the 1500 mark

[Precious] Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:18 House of Representatives postponed its scheduled Thursday to Saturday.

[heartfelt] trex When gold is down it strengthens the dollar. It was reported that the devaluation of the $ would not happen till about September

DOUBLE B] Urgent .. Najafi: political blocs will be asked to question al-Maliki during the next two days

 [DOUBLE B] little confused how he is gonna question him, if Parliament doesn't convene until Sunday

[chattels] DOUBLE B my thoughts exactly

[chattels] and if the news is to be believed, the no confidence issue is not even on the agenda

[chattels] for the first day of parliament

[DOUBLE B] Urgent. Maliki calls for convening a special meeting of the House of Representative

[DOUBLE B] http://www.dinarupdates. ··· post6053

[DOUBLE B] It was the first governmental request for an extraordinary session of the Council of Representatives and the discussion of the constitutional requirements of the government at a time when the House of Representatives prepares to interrogate al-Maliki.

weneedit] Good morning castle ! When is Ramadan and how long is it ?

[Dreamer] weneedit Ramadan I believe starts on July 20th and usually last for a month.

[devildogmom] ***Intel providers come from many walks of life. They come here and share what they have in good faith. All they can do, is pass along what they are hearing, and in some cases offer their opinions on what it means to us. We have all become very well educated in world events, banking, trusts, economics, markets, and the list goes on. They provide so many things for us. You may agree with some and not others. That is perfectly fine. We do ask that you be respectful of their contribution whether you agree with it or not. Thank you!

intheriver] Intel providers are brave men and woman. It's easy to sit back and critique what you read. It's a lot harder to search for the truth and sort though all the smoke. IMO it is cowardly to criticize but very gutsy report intel (after it's been verified of course).

Highhopes: I liked this one today:

The Power of One One song can spark a moment

One flower can wake the dream

One tree can start a forest

One bird can herald spring

One smile begins a friendship

One handclasp lifts a soul

One star can guide a ship at sea

One word can frame the goal

One vote can change a nation

One sunbeam lights a room

One candle wipes out darkness

One laugh will conquer gloom

One step must start each journey

 One word must start a prayer

One hope will raise our spirits

One touch can show you care

One voice can speak with wisdom

One heart can know what is true

One Life can make a difference

TAKE TIME AND MAKE A CHANGE!

Iraqi parliament speaker: Prime Minister still could face vote to oust him for hoarding power , 21 june


Iraqi parliament speaker: Prime Minister still could face vote to oust him for hoarding power


    BAGHDAD — The speaker of Iraq’s parliament reaffirmed Thursday that lawmakers are prepared to oust the nation’s prime minister if he refuses to share authority with his political opponents and break a deadlock that has all but paralyzed the government.
    The threat by Speaker Osama al-Nujaifi, a leader in the Sunni-dominated Iraqiya political coalition, counters a claim last week by Iraq’s president that there is not enough support in parliament to call a vote to push Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki from power.
    Speaking to reporters Thursday, al-Nujaifi said he personally believes al-Maliki, a Shiite Muslim, should step down from the job that he barely won after national elections in 2010 failed to produce a clear winner.
    Since then — and particularly after U.S. troops left Iraq last December — critics have accused al-Maliki of sidelining his political opponents and violating agreements to share power within a unity government.
    The political deadlock has all but brought Iraq’s government to a standstill so far this year.
    Bickering between the Shiite-dominated government in Baghdad and the self-rule Kurdish region in Iraq’s north threatens to stunt vital foreign investment in the country’s lucrative oil production. Provinces with majority Sunni populations have threatened to create their own autonomous regions. And political lethargy, combined with red tape, has delayed improvements to everything from the nation’s electricity system to job creation to rooting out government corruption.
    The deadlock has continued against a backdrop of sporadic but deadly bursts of violence: 120 Iraqis have been killed over the last 10 days alone in bombings mostly targeting Shiite pilgrims and security officials across Baghdad and beyond.
    “This is a dangerous matter that if continued would lead to catastrophic consequences,” al-Nujaifi said as parliament prepared to return to work after a six-week recess.
    He said al-Maliki would be summoned for questioning in front of parliament within days. “And if there is a parliament majority that is not convinced with the results of the questioning, then the non-confidence vote will take place,” al-Nujaifi said. He called the process “an attempt to put the country on the right track again.”
    In April, heeding complaints from his followers, hardline Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr met with Sunni and Kurdish leaders in what was widely viewed as a summit to plot al-Maliki’s ouster. But on Thursday, al-Sadr released a statement on his website saying “he tends not to intervene” in such matters.
    Last week, Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, said a preliminary count of lawmakers who want al-Maliki to step down fell four short of the 164 votes needed to force the issue. But al-Nujaifi denied that, saying that while a few lawmakers backed off, “the number is still enough.”
    Responding, an al-Maliki spokesman said the prime minister planned to address parliament soon but predicted he would not be forced to resign.
    The prime minister’s media adviser, Ali al-Moussawi, said al-Maliki will answer parliament’s questions and respects his opponents’ rights to call for the no-confidence vote. “But we are confident that they will fail to secure the needed 164 votes,” al-Moussawi said Thursday.
    Al-Maliki also has called for a special session of parliament to address lawmakers in public, said Safa al-Din al-Safi, the state minister for parliament affairs. A date for that session has not yet been set.
    Al-Nujaifi also said he, too, would step down if enough lawmakers voted to expel him — a process he said was firmly guaranteed under Iraq’s constitution.
    “Iraq has efficient and qualified people and figures who can lead Iraq and who can take Iraq into a new horizon,” he said. “Now we are in severe political crisis and we hope to get out of it.”http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/iraqi-parliament-speaker-prime-minister-still-could-face-vote-to-be-ousted-for-hoarding-power/2012/06/21/gJQATaOHsV_story.html