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Tuesday, June 19, 2012

SOONERFAN & BLUWOLF CHAT, 20 JUNE


soonerfan62] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, HOPE YOU'VE HAD A GREAT DAY. I WANT TO START OFF WITH A STORY TONIGHT, TALKED TO OKIE THIS AFTERNOON AND HE SAID HE GOT A CALL I THINK FROM A MOD BUT NOT SURE TELLING HIM THAT HE SAY MY POST TODAY AND WANTED TO KNOW IF HE HAD TALKED TO ME MANY TIMES TODAY????????? OKIE TOLD HIM NO AND THE GUY SAID , I THOUGHT SO. OKIE TOLD HIM "MANY" WAS 10 OR MORE TIMES AND THAT WE HAD TALKED ONLY ABOUT 7 OR 8 TIMES, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT RESPONSE.

WANT TO SAY HELLO TO MY DEAR FRIEND bluwolf HOW ARE YOU SIR? GUYS LET ME MAKE ONE THING CLEAR; WHEN OKIE, BLUWOLF, STUDLEY, FREEWAY, DEBTARHEEL, LOJAK, PAPAJACK1952, BULLDOG OR ANY OF THE REST OF THE INTEL PROVIDERS TELL ME SOMETHING AND NOT TO PASS IT ON, I DON'T AND THAT IS WHY I AM ABLE TO GET INFORMATION FROM SO MANY PEOPLE.
WHEN I SHARE INFO FROM MY INTEL WITH THEM I GET THAT SAME RESPECT. THAT IS WHY WHEN WE DO POST, IT IS INTEL THAT HAS BEEN CONFERMED BY AT LEAST 3 OTHERS. NOW THAT I'VE SAID MY PIECE, LET'S CHAT

[Spicegirl] soonerfan62 Hello handsome. So good to have you here tonight hon.

[soonerfan62] Spicegirl HI DARLING

[ready4bank] soonerfan62 what was your take on O speech?

[soonerfan62] ready4bank SERIOUSLY........DON'T CARE

[gretco] soonerfan62 - any news today that you can share?

[oldman] soonerfan62 with the closing of the G20, with no resolutions made, where do you honestly think we stand????

[soonerfan62] oldman WE'RE GOOD TO GO ANYTIME

[dguru] soonerfan62 whats with all this tension you guys seem to display lately

[soonerfan62] dguru WHAT TENSION, WE LAUGH ABOUT IT

[oldman] soonerfan62 thank you, everyone seems kind of lost, not sure what to think.

[charps84] soonerfan62 Are the intel providers bummed that it didn't pop during these meetings?

[soonerfan62] charps84 NOPE

kord] soonerfan62 Do you think the uproar in Egypt will have a negative effect on the RV?

[soonerfan62] kord WHY NEGATIVE, WHY NOT POSITIVE?

tornado] soonerfan62 -What is really causing this RV not to happen?? would we ever know??

soonerfan62] tornado YOU WILL AND SOON

[paiaboy] Soonerfan62: the Cabo talks come and gone pretty much and with EU members telling the US mind their own business so we will move forward now making US number 1 once again IYHO?

[soonerfan62] paiaboy US NOT IN CONTROL IMO

[keiji] soonerfan62 do the guys really have any good intel that gives them an idea when this should happen?

[soonerfan62] keiji LIKE BLU SAID ALL ARE LOOKING NOW

[dguru] soonerfan62 are you going to go on a limb and tell us to sleep with our phones

 [soonerfan62] dguru YEA YOU SHOULD DO THAT EVERYNIGHT, I DO

[bluwolf] soonerfan62 I WILL RELAY THIS MESSAGE BY YOU SO ALL CAN READ,,FIRST WE ARE WAITING FOR OUR CALL AND THERE IS NO RELATION WHAT SO EVER WITH WHAT OCCUR IN THE G-20 MEETINGS,SECOND ALL IS GOOD AND READY TO GO AND THERE IS NO HOLDUPS WHAT SO EVER,,ARE WE CORRECT ON THIS THOUGHT

[soonerfan62] bluwolf 100% AGREE MY FRIEND

[soonerfan62] GUYS UNDERSTAND BLU AND I BOTH HAVE THINGS WE CANNOT SHARE THAT IF YOU KNEW YOU WOULD BE EXCITED TOO

[wittsend] soonerfan62 Have the forces arrayed against this RV been controlled for now ?

[soonerfan62] wittsend I BELIEVE SO, NO I KNOW SO

[trazy] Soonerfan. seen okie today? How is he feeling about now?

[soonerfan62] trazy LIKE THE REST OF US, GREAT

[BigDaddyTIm] soonerfan62 Why can't your info be shared?

[soonerfan62] BigDaddyTIm YOU WANT WHAT WE POST TO HOLD THIS UP LONGER?

[bluwolf] BigDaddyTIm BECAUSE IF THAT INFO LEAVES THIS ROOM AND REACHES THE 312,000,000 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE U.S. THAT DID NOT BUY THE DINAR WE WOULD HAVE HAVOC IN YOUR COUNTRY

[tornado] soonerfan62 -What is so sensitive you cannot share,give me a break sooner.......

[soonerfan62] tornado OK THEN TAKE A BREAK

[tornado] bluwolf -Blu c'mon man,we all have been hearing timing fo over 6 months now......

[bluwolf] tornado WELL THEN NOW YOU GIVE US SOME INFO

[perwinkle] tornado I for one do not want to know anything that will hold this up ....

[tigerbobby] Believe maybe it has already happened and will be released soon- how else could there be no hold ups on the actual RV?

[kord] soonerfan62 Can you or Blu explain why anybody would Not want the RV? Even the bad guys?

[soonerfan62] kord BAD GUYS DON'T WANT TO SHARE POWER, REAL SIMPLE

[bluwolf] kord ITS ALL A QUESTION OF TIMING THAT IS ALL.

[MtnStar] Blu or Sooner - I have no IQD intel but was told by fiancial people that monies are being relocated worldwide right now - would this be a portence of something happening RV wise

[bluwolf] MtnStar YES

[bluwolf] dguru LOOK LIKE SOONERFAN SAID FRIEND IF YOU KNEW AL THAT WE KNOW YOU WOULD BE EXCITED TO.

[Capt Crunch] Bluwolf I get that's it a matter of timing. I do. Could you please give me and others an example of what could be construed as the right time in order for me to be a tad more at ease with such an answer, please?

[tornado] bluwolf -gag order

[bluwolf] tornado SO THEN YOU KNOW,SO WHY THE ISSUE,DO NOT DO THAT FRIEND

. [soonerfan62] tornado WE ARE NOT UNDER GAG ORDER, BUT WE'RE NOT STUPID EITHER

[MtnStar] bluwolf - also - the strings were being pulled to make China economically stronger with this money moving - is this what you're seeing? and does China own the Vietnamese banks now?

[bluwolf] MtnStar THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING IN A SHORT WHILE IT WILL OWN OUR BANKS TO

[klee123] could it happen for us before july 1?

[soonerfan62] klee123 EVERYTHING POINTS TO BEFORE YES

 [producer] Soonerfan you know as I know nothing you can say will stop this Rv

[soonerfan62] producer NOT TRUE MY FRIEND

[wheezer2] soonerfan62 bluwolf and we are soooooooo grateful that you are NOT stupid!

[miabella] Hey Peeps....we need to remember we are all in this together....Cutting one another apart is not going to change the timing, however will call discord amongs all of us. I'm as frustrated as you all...but being cordial whether we agree or not might help us all cope.

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 [wittsend] soonerfan62 What was done to bring the VND back into the basket when the threat seemed imminent that either VN with or without Chinese support would RV on their own?

[soonerfan62] wittsend WAS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, SORRY WOULD CAUSE TOO MANY PROBLEMS

[wittsend] soonerfan62 What was done to bring the VND back into the basket when the threat seemed imminent that either VN with or without Chinese support would RV on their own?

[bluwolf] LISTEN UP A LITTLE HISTORY,,,CHINA WAS CHOSEN BY THE GLOBAL BANK AND THE IMF TO BAIL OUT AND PAY FOR ALL INTERNATIONAL RELEASE FOR CHINA HAS THE BEST ECONOMY AND THE MOST MONIES OUT THERE,,THA IS WHY THEY ARE IN CONTROL OF THIS SUBJECT.

[soonerfan62] bluwolf PLUS THEY OWN MOST OF THE DEBT OF MOST OF THE COUNTRIES

[dguru] bluwolf is that what your excited about

[peaches105] soonerfan62 you think the vnd will come out low or high hon

[soonerfan62] peaches105 5 TO 12 CENTS IMO

 [BigDaddyTIm] bluwolf, I thought the Rothchilds were actually in the drivers seat??

[bluwolf] BigDaddyTIm NOPE

[jyburt] soonerfan62 bluwolf so tomorrow Bernanke sorry for the spelling, should we listen to what he says about global stimulus, or maybe thats not related

[soonerfan62] jyburt I WON'T LISTEN, AGAIN DON'T CARE

[vote4rv] hey soonerfan62 how do the trillions of transactions per day affect the RV? I would think there are some real issues with new losses once rates are decided and then the RV is delayed??

[soonerfan62] vote4rv WHAT TRILLIONS?

[vote4rv] soonerfan62 foreign currency transactions

[bluwolf] soonerfan62 YOU WILL ALL BE SURPRISED

[spelunker] soonerfan62 Have any mass arrests happened as yet?

 [TotallyBlessed] soonerfan62 soonerfan62 hey there sweets IYO do you believe that the IQD will be of a high rate?

[soonerfan62] TotallyBlessed YES

[wheezer2] bluwolf what will be all be surprised about ? :)

 [keiji] soonerfan62 Do you think there are 1 or 2 people who are controlling the timing?

 [kord] bluwolf soonerfan62 So if China is in the driver's seat, how can the bad guys keep stopping it?

[bluwolf] kord NO ONE IS STOPPING ANYTHING ANY MORE

[blessing] soonerfan62 It seems like the G20 was so everyone can get their story Straight :)

[tornado] kord -good question

[soonerfan62] kord AGAIN NO COMMENT

[wheezer2] bluwolf bluwolf what will we all be surprised about? :)

[motorcitymark] wheezer2 probably the rate of the Dong

[bluwolf] motorcitymark CORRECT
MtnStar] bluwolf so the money is being shifted and an RV hastens the shift - and will happen if China wants it to as well as the powers of $$$ above China - what is China's stake in this then is the big question

[bluwolf] MtnStar I BELIEVE IT IS CALL CONTROL

MtnStar] bluwolf - of such a resource rich nation - make sense

[ [ken153] bluwolf control like in global policy control

[3than] ok so who do i need to pay to get this thing done!?

[bluwolf] ken153 IN ALL ASPECTS

[ken153] bluwolf 10-4

[MtnStar] 3than - China

[showmethemoney] bluwolf if all u say is true, then there is no reason this will not be over by Friday...

 [kord] bluwolf soonerfan62 thanks..then I expect to see this amn!
[blessing] soonerfan62 it sounds like the bell should toll any time now..

[soonerfan62] blessing COULD YES

 [youneverknow] soonerfan, can you relieve our minds about the new denoms being relased in Jan? Will it hold up the RV>

 [BigDaddyTIm] Blu, do you think that the release will be a precursor to the one world government or New World Order?

[bluwolf] BigDaddyTIm NONE OF THE ABOVE

[.abundantlife] soonerfan62 I have noted Aussie dollar is getting stronger every day this week. Things are being adjusted definately.

[soonerfan62] .abundantlife GOOD TO HEAR

[keiji] soonerfan62 you think this is the week?

[soonerfan62] keiji YES

Gabby1] soonerfan62 do you think (like a few others) that this could go until September?

[soonerfan62] Gabby1 I'LL SAY THIS NONE OF OUR GROUP THINKS SO

[blessing] bluwolf You have always said it will be high and you have never changed..

[bluwolf] blessing NOW WHY SHOULD I?

[soonerfan62] mawbell THANKS BABY

[MtnStar] bluwolf - so with this money moveme t it could be sooner (haha) reather than later

 [TIME4RVNOW] bluwolf soonerfan62 I dont want to ask you the samo samo questions over and over again... lol I just want to know... really... please.... JUST lol tell me when can I cash a note???

[bluwolf] TIME4RVNOW WHEN YOU RECIEVE THE CODES WHICH SHOULD BE SOON

[addylou] bluwolf I like the way you think :.

[bouv] soonerfan62 is the Fed falling and the UST taking over this week?

[tornado] bluwolf soonerfan62 -Really appreciate your dedication to the dinarians.........TY

[soonerfan62] TIME4RVNOW IF WE KNEW FOR SURE WE WOULDN'T NEED DINAR WE COULD SELL THE INFORMATION

[BigDaddyTIm] I vote that we come up with a code word for "soon" so that we don't have to use it anymore!

 [whynot] Bluwolf Doesn't seem like there is a humongous elephant in the room at the G20 and no one will let him loose? I mean they have the answer, right? so strange!

.[soonerfan62] PHONE

[bluwolf] BigDaddyTIm ASN

[larryc] soonerfan62 bluwolf any chance the IQD could come out at say $4 and then go up once we all cash in, so that countries will have a high value reserve currency in the /Dinar?

[bluwolf] larryc NOPE

[soonerfan62] larryc JUST THE OPPOSITE, COUNTRIES NEED HIGH RATE LIKE YESTERDAY

[shooter] soonerfan62 I'm real good with yesterday

[MTDinar] bluwolf sorry friend, getting here late so i apologize if this question has already been asked...I watche the address by O and wanted your opinion on the one sentence "...undervalued currencies...". is that code and does it mean ans?

[bluwolf] MTDinar IT MEANS ALOT,,LETS HOPE THE WORLDS OTHERS LISTEN

[larryc] soonerfan62 I think that they may go very high once the little guy is out

[soonerfan62] larryc LOL WE ARE THE LITTLE GUY

[soonerfan62] OK BACK, JUST OKIE TELLING ME TO TAKE MY PHONE TO BED WITH ME, JUST KIDDING, SE I HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR

[ready4bank] soonerfan62 lol

[IslandDancer] soonerfan62 lol !

[shooter] soonerfan62 , thank you, I'm 230, haven't been called a little guy for a really long time...........

[Idbound] bluwolf soonerfan62 Thanks for all you have done We will Treasure the Day when it comes!!!!

[soonerfan62] Gabby1 TALK TO HIM MANY TIMES A DAY, TOO BUSY WITH INTEL

[sherry ann] soonerfan62 what would be the next currency to buy?

[soonerfan62] sherry ann YOU WOULD WANT TO GO ON THE RIDE AGAIN, ARE YOU NUTS? LOL

[bluwolf] LISTEN UP I MUST GO NOW,,THERE ARE NO DELAYS OR HOLDUPS,,ALL HAS BEEN DONE FOR AWHILE,WE NOW WAIT FOR THE CODES,LIVING A SECOND BY SECOND TIMEFRAME,SO RELAX THIS RIDE WILL STOP SOON..GOOD NIGHT AND GOD BLESS ALL,,BLUWOLF

[keiji] bluwolf TYVM

[shooter] Night Blu......................

[bluwolf] I HOPE WE ARE CLEAR NOW

 [shybabi] Bluwolf....don't forget to take your phone to bed....

[bluwolf] shybabi OK

 [paiaboy] soonerfan62: IYO what other currencies will pop just as good has IRQ and VND?

[soonerfan62] paiaboy NONE

[bluwolf] paiaboy NONE OTHER

[dguru] is hawaii closed yet

[soonerfan62] dguru NO

[hawaii50] 4:40 pm banks closed between 6 and 7

[paiaboy] hawaii50: ASB has branches closing at 7:00pm

[shooter] soonerfan62 Does it matter after Hawaii closes?????????????????????

[soonerfan62] shooter I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT SO, YOU KNOW THAT

[jetpack] Soonerfan62 do u agree if rv doesn't show this week it probably want til end July or later???

[keiji] soonerfan62 Do you know what factors determine the right timing?

[soonerfan62] keiji NO ONE DOES

[wittsend] soonerfan62 Someone has to know.

[oucrazy] soonerfan62. . . Still have a chance for tonight?

[soonerfan62] oucrazy IMO YES

[bluwolf] THINK FOR A MOMENT CHINA WILL NOT AND I REPEAT WILL NOT GIVE UP IT'S CHANCES OF CAPITALIZING ON BOTH THE DINAR AND THE VND IT IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME EVENT AND IT WILL NOT BE SEEN ANYMORE..CAPICH

[paiaboy] Soonerfan62: why is that waiting on the banks in Hawaii to close ?

[soonerfan62] bluwolf CAPICH IS NOT SPANISH LOL

[tornado] soonerfan62 -who or what entities really pushes this rv button??

[soonerfan62] tornado CHINA IS IN CHARGE PERIOD

[wenmar] soonerfan62 Italiano...

 [keiji] soonerfan62 If no one know the timing factors, what makes you guys think it's close?

 [paiaboy] and China loves H A W A I I

[soonerfan62] tornado CHINA IS IN CHARGE PERIOD

[keiji] soonerfan62 If no one know the timing factors, what makes you guys think it's close?

[soonerfan62] keiji INTEL RECEIVED ALL DAY EVERYDAY FROM 20 DIFFERENT PROVIDERS

[TotallyBlessed] soonerfan62 well maybe we need to be eating more chinese

[paiaboy] everyone loves HAWAII

[imperium] Capice-capice-capice-capice.

[blessing] soonerfan62 so tell China to hit the dang button will buddy lol lol

[MTDinar] soonerfan62 if China is hovering over the button, what are they waiting for? can't be much holding them back unless the rate gets higher the longer they wait????

[rajuncajun] What does banks closing in Hawaii have to do with it?

[whynot] Soonerfan If China is in charge I don't think it would be a bank timing thing... but there I go trying to think again. Lol

[soonerfan62] whynot THEY WILL TELL THE BANKS WHAT TO DO

[TRUENORTH] soonerfan62 rate tied to oil cost for China?

[soonerfan62] TRUENORTH OH DON'T KNOW, COULD

[Pearlnoir] TRUENORTH soonerfan62 will be $89.98

[kimskennelklub] soonerfan62 i just signed on.. i am sure this has been asked but exactly where are we sitting at this time.. tyvm

[soonerfan62] kimskennelklub WITHOUT

[hollyberry] imperium Do we know what they are interested in then, there must be a reason for gaining such power

[rlsunsfan] soonerfan62, do you know who Madame wu is?

[soonerfan62] rlsunsfan OF COURSE

musiccitylady] Just got here after being gone all day. Are we still supposed to take our phones to bed with us again tonight?

[book2] musiccitylady no, we're taking our blenders to bed tonight. You didn't get the memo?

[kimskennelklub] soonerfan62 i realize we do not have a live rate now.. but iyo.. are we any closer then we were last night. ty

[soonerfan62] kimskennelklub YEP

[1biz4u] soonerfan62 did you see my question about double digits??

[soonerfan62] 1biz4u NO, BUT YES

[paradisegirl] soonerfan62 thanks for your devotion to all of us, it is appreciated more than you know.

[soonerfan62] paradisegirl I KNOW BABY AND IT IS MY PREVILEDGE TO DO ALL I CAN

[soonerfan62] miabella hollyberry I REALLY JUST COME IN TO FLIRT WITH YOU GUYS

 [Spicegirl] soonerfan62 GN and thank you for coming in tonight.

[~healthy3] Thank you soonerfan for all the information- much appreciated..gn all

AMERICAN CONTRACTOR: "IT APPEARS JAN 2013", 20 JUNE

6-19-2012 American Contractor: The new Iraqi Dinar will be distributed in January 2013, not in the middle of the year.  Most likely in the first quarter.  Saleh stated the procedures to delete the zeros from the currency will begin in the beginning of the new fiscal year or the beginning of their new budget. When you hear someone saying it will be in Sept or sooner, that's just not true.  Iraq private banks are resisting the CBI by not having electronic banking. They would have to admit to the actual values and pay taxes on the admitted values.  The CBI can raise the raise the bar as it wants, the reality is the private banks lack the ability to raise the necessary capital. Lack of services available to the bank to present to the Iraqi private market to generate direct business revenue. Lack of trust in the banks because of perceived negative governmental influence potentially effecting the bank's value in a supposedly free market. Nothing is concrete and the stituation could change over night but it appears Jan 2013

BLUWOLF CHAT, 19 JUNE

[bluwolf] OK NUFF SAID DID YOU ALL SEE THE SPEECH

.[positiveperri] bluwolf we did...or I did :)

[1biz4u] bluwolf still believe ASN??

[bluwolf] 1biz4u YES

[vivrelereve] bluwolf bluwolf hi was that what you said to look for?

[thankful] bluwolf I thought it was spectacular!

[GrannieAnnie] bluwolf Which speech are you referring to?

. [bluwolf] GrannieAnnie THE G20 CLOSING

[cvreal] bluwolf did you find anything in the speech pointing to an RV?

[bluwolf] cvreal NOPE

[bluwolf] I HAVE MY OPINION

[bluwolf] YOU ALL WANT TO KNOW WHAT I THINK

[bluwolf] THERE IS A EMAIL OF MINE IN THE GET ROOM IT WAS PLACED THERE JUST NOW

[bluwolf] IF WE ARE ALL ADULTS IN THIS ROOM I WILL BRING IT OVER,,IF NOT I WILL NOT

[bluwolf] THE G20 MEETING IS OFFICIALLY OVER AND THE PRESIDENT GAVE THE CLOSING SPEECH,,THE CONCEPT OF THIS SPEECH REALLY LACKED ANY COMPROMISE OR SOLUTIONS TO THIS WORLD ECONOMIC AGENDA.. I FOR ONE CAN SEE THAT NO REAL RESOLUTION WAS ACCOMPLISHED,,IT IS A TO EACH IS OWN SCENARIO WITH NO LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL,,

EUROPE IMO TOLD THE U.S. TO BE SILENT FOR THEY ARE IN THIS MESS BECAUSE OF THEM AND THAT BEING SO THEY HAVE NO POWER IN TELLING THEM OR GIVING THEM ANY TYPE OF ECONOMIC SOLUTION TO THIS WORLD CRISIS.. SO WITH THAT SAID I PERSONALLY DO NOT SEE ANYTHING BETWEEN THESE MEETINGS AND THE INTERNATIONAL RELEASE OF THE WORLD CURRENCIES.. NOW THE QUESTION IS HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THESE INTERNATIONAL RELEASE OF CURRENCIES ?

WHAT WOULD BE THE NEW EXCUSE OR HOLDUP IF ANY ? THERE IS ANOTHER SUMMIT IN A COUPLE OF DAYS SUBJECT THE EU SITUATION AND AFTER THAT RAMADON WHICH IS ALSO A PAIN IN THE BUTT.. SO WHEN WILL IT HAPPEN ? AND DOES THESE TWO SUBJECT HOLD ANY RELATIVITY WITH THIS RV ? IMO I DO NOT KNOW AND I GUESS THAT NOBODY ELSE WILL EITHER…

NOW I HAVE A MESSAGE TO ALL BANKS,, TO THE UST,, TO THE IMF,, LOOK IF YOU WERE WAITING ON THE COMPLETION OF THIS SUMMIT TO REACH A DETERMINATION AND BEING IT A NOT SO GOOD SCENARIO WITH LACK OF COMPROMISE,, THEN WHY DO YOU NOT PUSH THE BUTTON AND RELEASE THE WHOLE WORLD REVALUATIONS AND GIVE BACK THE PEACE OF MIND TO ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD WHO ARE HURTING ?

SOMETHING MUST BE DONE IMMEDIATELY AND THAT TIME IS NOW.. I HONESTLY HOPE THAT THIS MESSAGE GETS OUT AND REACHES THE EARS OF THOSE INVOLVE AND THAT THIS BUTTON IS PUSHED,, IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO AND THE WHOLE WORLD WILL BE IN DEBT[ IN THE GOOD SENSE ] FOREVER,,NO MORE POLITICAL AGENDAS THE PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH,,LETS GET IT OVER AND DONE WITH,, EVEN THOU SOME TIMES WHAT SEEMS THAT IS,, IS REALLY NOT,,AND THAT,, THAT IS NOT IT REALLY IS,,WHICH ONLY BRINGS US TO THE CONCLUSION THAT SHOULD BE OBSERVED BY THE OUTSIDERS,, LOOK WE AIN'T STUPID,,GET IT DONE....

[kord] bluwolf I thought you said before that it was already done and we were just waiting for the official call.

[bluwolf] kord THAT HAS NOT CHANGE MY FRIEND PLEASE DO NOT MIX THINGS

[kord] bluwolf ok good

[pdh] Bluwolf. I thought you said ASN and NO holdups!!!

[bluwolf] pdh IT STILL IS ASN

[Bravo] So were not done?

[heartfelt] Bravo That is not what he is saying

[BARBIE] bluwolf All I can say is WOW! Well done! And, thank you!

[paiaboy] bluwolf: some people just don't understand...

 [bluwolf] paiaboy I CAN SEE

[bluwolf] MY CONVICTION HAS NOT CHANGED ONE THING DOES NOT RELAT TO THE OTHER

[sharonsdinar1] Very well said Mr. Bluwolf.. I hope those in the position of doing something sees this letter..

[pdh] Bluwolf. There must be holdups if you just asked them to quit delaying and push the buttom. That's means it can't be ASN!!!!

[heartfelt] this is all political manuevering

[bluwolf] mkay IT IS MINE

[blueblaze1962] bluwolf Did you hear the sentence in the speech right before he started taking questions?

[bluwolf] pdh PLEASE READ IT AGIAN AND AGIN UNTILL YOU UNDERSTAND,A SPECIFIC WORD HAS MANY MEANINGS

[bluwolf] blueblaze1962 YES AND I HOPE ITS RIGHT

[paiaboy] bluwolf: I just can't understand it...my father had always told me read between the lines...others just it goes in one ear out the other

[blueblaze1962] bluwolf Glad someone else caught that and understood the statement..it was very quick and subtle...but duly noted

[Yousparkle] blueblaze1962 Can you tell us what the statement was?

[pdh] Bluwolf. ASN has one specific meaning. You have been saying ASN since January.

[mlm] blueblaze1962 What was the sentence?

[mkay] presidets speech......about undervalued currency?

[bluwolf] blueblaze1962 LETS JUST HOPE THEY COMMIT

[book2] Yousparkle 1helton Obama: countries with undervalued currencies need to raise their value

[charps84] bluwolf Apparently everyone (the intel providers) were looking at these meeting for the possible release of the Rv. So now everyone's bummed?

[Yousparkle] book2 blueblaze1962 Thank you!

[oldman] SO basically, since they did not reach any conclusions at the G20, we are back to square one????

[ken153] oldman no ,,,, they will not stand by and have currencies undervalued !!!!!!!!

[GJHHonor] did O really say that to revalue there currency at the G20 when he started his speech?

peaches105] GJHHonor hi sweetie i dont know but would like to know hon

BULLDOG CHAT, 19 JUNE


[7:28:23 PM] SpiritualWarrior: [Bulldog75] Merkel Faces G-20 : Group of 20 leaders focused their response to Europe’s financial crisis on stabilizing banks as the International Monetary Fund raised its lending capacity to shield the rest of the world economy. http://www.businessweek. ··· pressure Emerging countries boosted their pledges to the IMF’s global firewall, nearly doubling the fund’s resources to $456 billion, at a G-20 summit in Mexico dominated by the global effort to restore confidence in the euro. President Barack Obama and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, facing pressure from the U.S. and fellow European leaders to do more to stem the crisis, met before the summit after trading accusations in recent weeks over responsibility for the turmoil. “The president was encouraged by what he heard regarding ongoing discussions in Europe about the paths they are pursuing to address the crisis,” White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters during the summit in Los Cabos yesterday. An after-dinner meeting of Obama and the leaders of the four participating euro-area countries -- Germany, France, Italy and Spain -- was canceled after summit participants agreed that they had spent enough time on the crisis, an official from a G-20 nation familiar with discussions said. China, Brazil, Mexico, India and Russia announced contributions to the IMF to bolster a “second line of defense,” fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde said in an e-mailed statement. China will contribute $43 billion, the official Xinhua News Agency reported. The others’ share was $10 billion each.

[Bulldog75] MKRAINTZ : SOMEONE SWUNG ON MY STAR AND DISAPPEARED INTO THE UNIVERSE.  

[MISPLACEDBUCKEYE] Bulldog75 is that one of them shooting stars
[Bulldog75] MISPLACEDBUCKEYE MUST HAVE BEEN

[Events617] Does anyone here want to tackle a technical question here for me?
[Bulldog75] Events617 : AS LONG AS ITS NOT A 'TECHNICAL FOUL' ..NAME IT
[songwriter55] Bulldog75 you don't need a star, you are one...
[Bulldog75] songwriter55 ; AHHHHHHHH THANKS.

[IshMan] Bulldog75 Reports today, China is sourcing 17% of its oil from Iraq. Seems like this would make a great fit for China to be the "bank" for the RV's needed liquidity...
[Bulldog75] IshMan : CHINA IS STILL THE DEALER AT THE CARD TABLE.

[nanaof5] Bulldog75 hello this is nana48, how have you been?
[Bulldog75] nanaof5 : HI. SO ARE U REFRESHING AT FS OR CELEBRATING A 48 YR BIRTHDAY?

[IshMan] Bulldog75 How do we get China to open up the game and raise the stakes?
[Bulldog75] IshMan : THEY WILL. RE-SHUFFLING DECK RIGHT NOW.

[sunnygirl] Bulldog thought China wanted the VND to go
[Bulldog75] sunnygirl : EVERYONE WANTS THAT SO THEY DOUBLE DIP; DOUBLE UP ; DOUBLE THEIR PLEASURE. WON'T HAPPEN.

[ITrustGod] Bulldog75 What does the article you just reference mean to the International release of the IQD?
[Bulldog75] ITrustGod ANSWER: SUPPORT & GOODWILL.

[skinny413] Bulldog75 Ya got allot of friends, we are 610 strong in this room already
[Bulldog75] skinny413 : GOOD # SO FAR!

[Bulldog75] http://www.businessweek. ··· pressure

[ITrustGod] Bulldog75 Isn't it true that until the Euro Zone corrects their monetary policies that this can go on and on?
[Bulldog75] ITrustGod : ANSWER: FIAT MONEY CREATES A REPEAT OF HISTORY AT SOME POINT . IE: EUROPE NOW. BUT LOOK AT DEBT OF USA !  THAT TOPIC ALONE COULD BE DISCUSSED FOR DAYS.........

[Bulldog75] FOX NEWS "AWAITING O REPORT FROM CABO SAN LUCAS, MX. BEFORE TOP OF THE HOUR. 
[Bulldog75] GEITHNER SPOKE THIS AFTERNOON : WITH OTHER FINANCIAL EURO LEADERS. AWAITING ON THAT.

[IshMan] Bulldog75 Change of Fed Reserve policy on interest on those excess reserves, and that money comes back to economy. Very interesting year in front of us. The wobble is going to be huge.
[Bulldog75] IshMan : YES. WOBBLE 10-20% IN THE MARKETS; AM GLAD I AM NOT IN THE MARKETS.

[blueblaze1962] Bulldog75 Do you think O will have anything of significance for us to listen to tonight?
[Bulldog75] blueblaze1962 : UNKNOWN ON O TOPIC

[reglou] Bulldog, are we still second by second for this rv?
[Bulldog75] reglou : : TICK TOCK

[Frenchy] Bulldog75 When can we Celebrate at the 19th Hole? I Might even Indulge in a Little Spirits..
[Bulldog75] Frenchy : NO MOON LIT GOLF.

[IshMan] Bulldog75 ... unwinding of Fed excess deposits and associated leverage should drive interest rates up... There's your wobble, and we better have guys in government that understand the power of the private sector.
[Bulldog75] IshMan : GOOD EYE. SOME MARKETS COULD WOBBLE OUTSIDE/HIGHER THAN THE 20%. WE WAIT TO SEE.

[Bulldog75] SPAIN ; HAS 25% UNEMPLOYMENT.

[blueblaze1962] Bulldog75 Spain in bad way just like Greece...
[Bulldog75] blueblaze1962 : MUCH DUE TO : BANKERS, LAWYERS, POLITICIANS AND LACK OF GOLD/SILVER/MINERAL BACKING.

[bullrider1988] Bulldog75 qustion im in company stock will that be effected iyo
[Bulldog75] bullrider1988 : I HAVE NO STOCKS. MARKET WILL BE VOLATILE AND UNPREDICTABLE.

[Bulldog75] ..sambo : ROCK IN ROLL APPROACHING 1300!

[Bulldog75] O IS NOW ON NATIONAL TV FROM CABO SAN LUCAS, MX. PROB G20 WRAP UP.

[ITrustGod] Bulldog75 Should we be preparing for domestic turmoil. I have heard of reports of preparations for ,Martial Law.
[Bulldog75] ITrustGod ; PASS ON NEGATIVE.

[Bulldog75] RIGHT NOW; O IS JUST ANSWERING REPORTER Q&A ON WORLD FINANCES. NOTHING OUT OF NORMALCY ON EURO FRONT.

[trazy] Bulldog. Is what Obama is saying relevant to our rv?
[Bulldog75] trazy : NOT REALLY RELATED DIRECTLY TO RV; ........ITS POLITICS, TRADE, SYRIA

[inspired] Bulldog75 Bulldog75 Do we need to watch O right now?? I he going to be announcing something we are (directly) concerned about??
[Bulldog75] inspired : ASNWER: NO. O DISCUSSING: POLITICS, TRADE, SYRIA.

[mickey29] Bulldog75 we don't have to wait until October until Malki resigns for the RV do we please say no
[Bulldog75] mickey29 : OF COURSE NOT. TY.

[Bulldog75] hOPE YOU ALL GOT SOME QUESTIONS ANSWERED LAST NIGHT ON THE TRUST CALL. FILTER AND DECIDE. TRUSTS ARE CRUCIAL TO PROTECT ONES MONEY AND HAVE TAX STRATEGY.

[greek1212] Bulldog75 if we cash out then set up a trust when we move the money to the trust will we pay taxes
[Bulldog75] greek1212 ; CASH SMALL AMT FIRST. SET UP TRUST THEN CASH MOTHER LODE.

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DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 19 JUNE

6-19-2012  Intel Guru Hammerman   There really was zero movement last night, really none. A few good signs but no big push.  There is big, big joy in Mexico where the g20 is going on. We believe it [through sources] was leaked that Mexico would RV within days and if y’all pay attention y’all should now that Mexico is in the basket of 23. We are close.

6-19-2012  Newshound Guru Med    I ...HAVE NOT USED INTEL IN ABOUT TWO YRS...THIS INFORMATION I JUST RECEIVED FROM PROBABLY THE MOST RELIABLE PERSON I KNOW WHO I HAVE NOT TALKED TO IN ALMOST TWO YRS JUST TOLD ME  THAT I PROBABLY MADE A GOOD MOVE  ON PLANNING THE RV PARTY FOR THIS YR.  I WAS GIVEN INFORMATION  ABOUT MOVES BY CERTAIN ENTITIES AND GIVEN INFO ABOUT A PERSONAL CONVERSATION.   THAT IS ALL I WILL SAY.    ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]

6-19-2012  Newshound Guru Mike  Maliki is still up the the same old things...trying to save his job...working every angle he possibly can - trying to make sure he stays in power...US is telling them you are not falling apart...we have too much invested here....there is an election coming - you are not falling apart period.  There is a vested interest to have this all work out - starting to see pressure from others that if he wants to stay in power he needs to work this out - thats the constant messge we are hearing from the US and everybody else - We like what we are hearing - moving forward slowly but surely.

6-19-2012  Newshound Guru Med  TARIFFS IN 14 DAYS, THIS COULD BE HUGE.  I THINK IT IS A MISTAKE.  IT WOULD BE GOOD IF IRAQ ACTUALLY PRODUCED SOMETHING THAT IS IMPORTED, THEY DONT.  TARIFFS ARE SUPPOSE TO HELP THE LOCAL BUSINESS'S COMPETE  BY...FORCING THEM TO SELL HIGHER.  THIS, AS I SAID, WOULD BE GOOD IF IRAQ PRODUCED SOMETHING.

6-19-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    Here are some interesting headlines…"Habib Terminal: dissolve parliament and hold early elections would be a last resort if all doors are closed solutions"  This guy is dreaming – this would be the second best solution for Maliki. The first being for him to stay “as is”these guys are saying this in another veiled attempt to “threaten” the jobs of the Parliamentarians. As if raising the barriers and leaving them open to terrorist  which they are conspiring with isn’t enough.

6-19-2012  Intel Guru Footforward   THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT AGENDAS HERE.  THE BAD GUYS WANT TO GET THIS DONE RIGHT NOW AT 1 DOLLAR, OR DRAG THINGS OUT UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR. THE GOOD GUYS WANT TO GET THIS DONE A.S.A.P. AT A HIGH RATE.  THE BAD GUYS ARE LOSING THE FIGHT!  THE GOOD GUYS HAVE BEEN GETTING THE UPPER HAND FOR SOME TIME NOW. DO I KNOW FOR SURE WHEN THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN? NO. I KNOW IT CAN GO ANY TIME NOW AND I TRULY BELIEVE WE ARE HEADED INTO THE GREATEST PERIOD THIS EARTH HAS EVER SEEN!

6-19-2012  Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man    Always know that the element of surprise can be used by the Good side just as well...the RV will most likely show up when you are least expecting it.  Always remember that Iraq and the world needs the RV. The only question is when and at this moment only the Good side knows when that is…but it will happen...COGITATE!

6-19-2012  Newshound Guru Mike   "Iraq moves banking and tax problems for the U.S. Congress"  With the Future of Iraq Project teaching them how to handle banking situations and the monetary situation - something we have done already so it make sense for us to support them in this...again another major step forward ...getting our government to work with the Central Bank.

6-19-2012  Intel Guru Bluwolf  ALL THINGS DONE WAS SURGICALLY PUT INTO PLACE, ALL INTENTS WAS TAKEN CARED OF, IT TOOK SOME TIME BUT EVERYTHING HAS BEEN COVERED AND THE GOOD GUYS WON...YOU ARE IN THE VERGE OF RECEIVING AND THERE IS NO WAY BACK NO MATTER WHAT OTHERS SAY.  THE IQD RV HAPPENED A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. WE NOW AWAIT ITS' INTERNATIONAL RELEASE. ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ONLY AWAIT FOR THE RV CALL.

6-19-2012  Newshound Guru Med   ALL 3 ARTICLES PERTAINING TO THE WITHDRAW OF CONFIDENCE ARE ACTUALLY VERY GOOD.   IT APPEARS THAT MALIKI HAD SOME MINOR MOMENTUM  FOR A BRIEF MOMENT  BUT LOST IT WITH THE U.S. NOT GOING TO BAGHDAD TO MEET WITH MALIKI AND INSTEAD GOING TO ARBIL TO MEET WITH ALL 5, REMEMBER ALL 5 - SADR, TALIBANI, ALLAWI, BARZANI ?  MUTLAQ  HMMM.  DINAR...ALSO NOW IS PICKING UP STEAM IN THE MEDIA WITH MORE AND MORE POSITIVE SUPPORT.

6-19-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    Maliki received a letter from the severe criticism by the Adviser to the Deputy Chairman of the U.S. ...let’s hope this apparent shift in US policy towards Maliki is, in fact, legitimate. If it is – he is probably done for sometime this week (provided he doesn’t fully capitulate before Thursday).  This is more really good news for us.

6-19-2012  Intel Guru Footforward   I WANTED TO...ASSURE YOU GUYS THAT THE RV IS FOR SURE 100% WITHOUT A DOUBT GOING TO HAPPEN.  HOW ANYONE COULD EVEN SUGGEST THEY KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE DELAYED UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR IS KIDDING THEMSELVES. THAT IS NOT WHAT HAS BEEN DECIDED AT ALL. THE MARSHAL PLAN IS TO END IN 2013. MEANING THIS HAS TO HAPPEN BY JAN 2013.   I’M LOOKING FOR THIS ANY TIME.  MY OPINION IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I KNOW

NEWMONIES POST, 19 JUNE


6-19-2012 Newmonies: Meeting tomorrow to end the issue of withdrawal of confidence from the Maliki. This just what BGG has been sayin, one way or another Maliki is DONE!!!!  "National Alliance held a crucial meeting tomorrow to end the issue of withdrawal of confidence from the Maliki. The National Alliance will hold a meeting tomorrow at the home of President Jaafari coalition in the presence of Prime Minister Maliki. This meeting will be the last and decisive with regard to the issue of withdrawal of confidence from Maliki. The Sadrist movement will be present at this meeting, which will end either the withdrawal of Maliki for Prime Minister or the implementation of the demands of the blocks, which calls for the withdrawal of confidence."

KAPERONI POST, 19 JUNE


6-19-2012 Kaperoni: Dinars are published landmarks the Iraqi currency the new after you delete the zeros. Central bank decided to adopt some of the features and pictures to be developed on the new currency after deletion of zeros.  And obtained by / JD / a copy of the book's central bank, which included the historical and cultural landmarks and images to be placed on the implications of the currency close to the mentality of the Iraqi public and culture.   

DINAR CHATTER , 19 JUNE


DebTarHeelGirl]  I know its hard to wait - but SUDDENLY IT SHALL COME.... till then come on sing this with me... "I've got the joy joy joy joy down in my heart.... with the peace the passes understanding down in my heart, down in my heart to stay!  AMEN?  AMEN!!!

poppy3] queen for poppy he is getting better and thanks all for the prayers . i let him view the chat site this morning for a few. he will be back soon. say blessing to all of you.

[misskitty05] Fed Reserve having a 2 day meeting to decide whether more monetary stimulis is needed to bosst the economy. Bloomberg.com whoo hoo

[misskitty05] That's boost the economy!

[Precious] tanner: Bernake to speak tomorrow, Weds

[Precious] O speaks tonight

[Precious] chatter: In the evening, the President will hold a press conference. This press conference is open to pre-credentialed members of the media.AND PRESS SCHEDULE FOR TUESDAY, JUNE 19, 2012
Precious] per whitehouse.gov ...... 7:30 PM The President holds a press conference Local Event Time: 5:30PM MDT Convention Center Open to pre-credentialed media

[~PETERSMA] So I know it's never a great idea to burn bridges but honestly once I get my RV deposit slip in hand, I don't want to burn my bridge with my employer, I want to BLOW IT UP!! ;)

[hawaii50] Soonerfan62: You have been one of our best Intel researchers. People's nerves are just on edge, about to roll over with expectation and some fear. CNBC has just talked about "stimulus" on a global level. I keep my cell phone on by my bed every night, charging!! We love you, Soonerfan62!!

jyburt] granny10 momma said they announced that bernarke will be talking at 12.30 est time tomorrow, not sure when but it was announced on bloomberg

[ready4bank] granny10 it's on CNBC

[GrannieAnnie] granny10 here is the link you was looking for Fed Will Ease Monetary Policy This Week: Goldman’s Hatzius 19 Jun 2012 http://www.cnbc.com/id/47868321

[nutzo] mbillions what I find more interesting, is that over 100 world leaders will be there wednesday, but not camaron, obama or merkle, they are sending a representative instead, (three biggest ecconomy's, and the leaders aint going hmmmmmmm!)

[hawaii50] CNBC: G20 ends today! Talk of a "stimulas" hope we are not reading more into this...but that is what I heard.

[fosterholdings2010] Hawaii50 Maybe soon we will hear more details

[hawaii50] raptor22 ; CNBC has mentioned several times in the last few hours about possibilities for the current crisis. They have spoken of a "stimulas"...but not defined what that would be.

[justchecking] hawaii50 Fed's pretty much set on QE3. Their last stimulus option.

[hawaii50] justchecking Yes, but that is not defined either...I hope that includes the RV

[redsnowbird] Are you aware with the new banking regulations....very few countries are allowing Americans to open up off-shore banking accounts anymore?

[redsnowbird] Remember the discussions of asset protection and diversifications? It may be a good idea to have some of it out of the US hands....look at what it happening in Greece, Spain and Italy...where the govt. takes the money from the people to pay off the govt. debt......this has happened several times in Argentina...and Greece as well.

[redsnowbird] Anytime a country becomes close to bankrupt....the govt. take the assets and pensions of the people in their country.

[Spicegirl]  Depending how much you have, the bank often offers investment people for gratis. Also, they are not on bank salary.

[mrsdok] Hi Spicegirl, dun! FG, I asked y a NIB Acct shld NOT hv a debit card attached to it???

[M64] mrsdok IMO so your money doesn't disappear if anyone gets your card or even your card number, you don't want any cards attached to that account, again IMO.

[ready4bank] mrsdok an example..... Open 2 NIB accounts, leave majority of $ in main acct, do not have debit card..... Then 2nd acct will be your spending acct, use a debt card..... Only move money between the 2 when needed. If your debt card gets copied or stolen you won't lose everything...... Just a quick example

SOONERFAN POST , 19 JUNE

[soonerfan62] GOOD AFTERNOON GUYS, JUST A QUICK DRIVEBY. I HAVE BEEN WORKING ALL DAY WITH MY SON AND MY PHONE HAS BEEN BLOWING UP AND NOT IN A GOOD WAY. I GUESS I DON'T UNDERSTAND SOME OF YOU AND THE WAY YOU THINK. 

LET ME ASK WHY THE BIG DEAL OF OKIE TELLING ME TO TAKE MY PHONE TO BED BECAUSE THIS COULD HAPPEN AT ANYTIME???? NAME ME ONE INTEL PROVIDER THAT HASN'T SAID THIS COULD GO DOWN AT ANYTIME. DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY A BIG DEAL WAS MADE OF IT LAST NIGHT. 

ALSO HEARD MOST OF YOU CAME TO MY DEFENSE AND I APPRECIATE IT, BUT NOT NECESSARY. IN CLOSING, OKIE AND I HAVE TALKED MANY TIMES TODAY AND OH BY THE WAY HE TOLD ME NOT TO LEAVE THE HOUSE WITHOUT MY PHONE, LOL LOL LOL BBL SOONERFAN62

BGG DINAR UPDATES, 19 JUNE


*** Current News ***

Leader of the National Union: The next step is to withdraw confidence from Maliki’s government

Erbil, June 19 (Rn) – A member of the Politburo of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan led by Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, said on Tuesday that the next step with respect to the current crisis in the country is to withdraw confidence from the government of Nouri al-Maliki, adding that the demand of the Democratic Party to withdraw confidence from the Government of Maliki is the demand of all the leaders of the coalition of Kurdish blocs.

According to Adnan al-Mufti, told the Kurdish news agency (Rn), that “the National Union remains committed to the agreements concluded within the Kurdistan Alliance about all the political issues that arise in the country, despite retaining the union of different orientations and opinions with the rest of the leaders of the coalition.”
He said the Mufti that “the National Union is keen to protect the unity of ranks and positions within the coalition of Kurdish blocs in Baghdad,” pointing out that “the next step in conjunction with the resumption of Iraqi Council of Representatives meetings Thursday after the end of summer recess will be working in order to withdraw confidence from the government of Nouri al-Maliki.”

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.aknews.com/ar/aknews/4/312997/&usg=ALkJrhj86sqWp9-KJ84J1Y5zTEWDX0EBww

This is EXACTLY what I have been saying – every single one of the MP’s under Talibani’s leadership put their signatures on the original document. Just because Talibani is not in the picture doesn’t mean they won’t vote the right way. I fully expect every one of them to vote unanimously to remove Maliki (should it come down to that). Keep in mind, they are all Kurds. If Maliki stays “as is” they fully expect some type of aggression from Baghdad.

Iyad al-Samarrai: the rule of law to ask about the reason for non-implementation of the Convention, instead of Arbil asked about our commitment to no-confidence

{Baghdad, Euphrates News} The secretary-general of the Islamic Party MP Iyad al-Samarrai said the talk about the readiness of the National Alliance, the implementation of previous agreements and the current gives voice except for two cases, the first that some people arrived at the point of despair and says there is no room for reform, because it promises the promises by the Prime Minister, while others He says nothing but a paper deeds to pressure him to be the last chance for reform is required.

He was President Jalal Talabani has said in his letter to the leaders of the wave of Arbil that the National Alliance announced its readiness for the implementation of previous agreements and current.

Samarrai said in a statement to Agence {Euphrates News} today, “We hear and since the formation of the current government that will implement the rest of the terms of Arbil,” adding that “instead of the question, Why do you insist on the withdrawal of confidence from the government and ask why has not implemented these items so far.”

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Samarrai is saying the NA blabbering on and on about fully implenting the Erbil agreement brings up two very important points. First, the people are sick of the excuses and believe there is no chance of reform. They hear nothing but promises, promises and more promises from Maliki and then nothing…unless he’s backed into a corner.

Secondly - he says, instead of them (the SLC) whining with the question “Why do you insist on the withdrawal of confidence”…the question they really should be asking themselves is “why don’t we have the Erbil agreement fully implemented” (after having a year-and-a-half to get it done)???

This was the smartest dialogue I have heard in a couple of weeks. It’s the very heart of the matter and is exactly why this will be concluded soon.

Barzani is ready to meet with Maliki, provided that it is in Erbil 

The newspaper added that “the conflict between the two leaders on his way to calm and that there is mediation in order to conduct a meeting between the. The newspaper quoted information obtained by the “number of public figures moved for it after it announced the rule of law in the words of one of its officials that a meeting will take place between the two leaders, but the main obstacle in front of the meeting is that the President of the Region is ready to hold a meeting in Baghdad, and insists that he would meet al-Maliki in Arbil . The relationship between Barzani and Maliki has seen a large constricting and the statements of the mutual accusations of bringing the matter to request the withdrawal of confidence in Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.

http://www.alestiqama.com/news.php?cat=siasy&id=2933

This I don’t doubt – there is a lot of last-minute “wrangling”. Maliki is doing everything he can to “derail” what’s coming. It is even possible we see a “last-minute deal” or Maliki resigning. Anything is possible. However, I also think it is getting very late in the game for a legitimate offer to be accepted.

Shammari bloc opposed to the owners of 25 questions prepared for questioning …

Secret / Baghdad

A spokesman for the cluster white lawmaker Kazem al-Shammari, on Tuesday, calling for the creation of powers for the withdrawal of confidence in Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki’s 25 questions for questioning in the House of Representatives, equipped with deputies of the State of Law coalition files for approval to ask when questioning al-Maliki.

Al-Shammari said, that “the bloc opposed to the owners, which includes the Iraqi List and the Sadrist movement and the Kurdistan Alliance has created a file to question the prime minister in parliament consists of 25 questions,” stressing that “On the other hand, several MPs from the coalition of state law equipped files to ask if approved questioned al-Maliki. ”

He added that “Iraq and the Kurdistan Alliance want to be questioned from a Shiite deputy Liberal block so as not to be Sunni Arabs and Kurds accused of political sectarianism.”

The Shammari said that “the rule of law has a serious corruption of files summed up by evidence and sound recordings, documents, photographs and video files will be displayed during the questioning session, deputies and staff related issues Kabarmthmin administrative and financial corruption.”

It seems that Iraqi officials are taking files from financial and administrative corruption, which they own a source of threat not only to evaluate and reform the country and the results of those files from the destruction of Iraq and the decline in international forums and place it on top of the list of top countries in financial corruption.

http://www.dinarupdates.com/showthread.php?5425-Shammari-bloc-opposed-to-the-owners-of-25-questions-prepared-for-questioning-..-The-l&p=5965

Don’t let this guy fool you – he’s one of the “Waffle House gang”, who incidentally – have such a bad name now they have to start “coding” their news releases with something other than “the White bloc, white mass, mass for change (basically, they are bribed mouthpieces).

He’s also saying they “vigorously oppose” the Parliamentarians with 25 questions prepared for the Maliki questioning (which means they are likely already prepared to begin)….and that they too have video tapes – blah, blah, blah… What this means is – the opposition has some pretty damaging video evidence (like I said a long time ago) to go along with the Maliki questioning in the upcoming session.

Al-Bayati is likely to send the paper to resolve differences to parliament next Thursday

MP for the most likely coalition of state law, Abbas al-Bayati said the president sends the paper to resolve differences to the House of Representatives after resume the hearings next Thursday. ” Bayati said in an interview quoted (and independent Iraqi news agency) that the paper and president of the republic resulted from the ongoing meetings between the President and all the political blocs to do this is to become an integrated paper and can be put in the House of Representatives for the information of the representatives of the people. ” He added that these points are subject to dialogue and negotiation, and then find the solution, indicating that there is a crisis of confidence and a clear day in the political scene and there are parties aimed started Download problems on one party or another. He said that everyone should know that they are part of this crisis, and are involved with and better for them to looking for a solution to it in order to return mutual trust to reach a joint dialogue demands of the political blocs finding a solution to an urgent and necessary to restore confidence because there is no party that holds the other responsibility of what is happening and to throw the blame on it.

http://ina-iraq.net/news/political/23205.html

The only thing I can imagine this being is a complete acceptance of the terms of the Erbil agreement and an immediate law being presented to Parliament regarding the NCSP and several Ministry appointments. But is still too vague to be serious. They may well present this deal to Parliament. Allawi has already accepted it – with the stipulation…they move it through Parliament very quickly. NO MORE DELAYS!!

Naqeeb: Withdrawing confidence from Maliki on its way regardless of pressure

Baghdad (NINA) – Member of Iraqiya Alliance, Falah al-Naqeeb, said that the process of withdrawing confidence from Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki is moving on its way regardless of pressure being exerted. In a statement to the press on Saturday, June 16, Naqeeb said, “The issue of withdrawing confidence from Maliki has not ended when President Talabani announced that the quorum has not been achieved.”

He went on, “We believe that the number of signatories demanding withdrawing confidence from Maliki exceeded required quorum; therefore Parliament has to convene and summon Maliki to withdraw confidence in accordance with legal and Constitutional procedures.” Naqeeb pointed out that many lawmakers from Sadrist Trend, Kurdish Alliance and Iraqiya Alliance, in addition to many others, still insist on voting to withdraw confidence. / End.

http://ninanews.com/English/News_Details.asp?ar95_VQ=FLMLFD
This article is from yesterday – but no less valid. They intend to either keep the pressure on or remove him. Either solution is acceptable to the oppostion.

Here are some interesting headlines…

Rule of law, renewed welcomed dialogue with the political blocs that demanding the withdrawal of confidence from the government

Of course they are – they’re minutes from getting their XXXes handed to them!! DIALOGUE AWAY BOYS!!

Sadr told al-Maliki: Imam Mahdi army is ready to clean Iraq from Saddam’s dictatorship and quasi!!

I think Sadr is pretty much tired of being threatened.

Shammari: Maliki’s coalition has a video condemns those who call for interrogation files of corruption

What this really means is they know what video the opposition has lined up for Maliki’s questioning and they are trying to “get out in front of it”.

Source: Al-Qaeda preparing to launch attacks on the House of Representatives and 4 provinces

If this really happens – you know Maliki was in it up to his eyeballs!! It’s a public, veiled threat to get them to not show on Thursday.

BULLDOG POST, 19 JUNE


[Bulldog75] conference calls. busy day. I love you all. The G-20 will produce a plan for global growth. Our time is nigh.http://news.yahoo.com/dr ··· 020.html Though this is not the major reason, it is part of the timing. There are many conditions which makes this RV "Inevitable and forthcoming with Our Manna". We are blessed and highly favored. You are meant to be here. Our Time has come.
[Bulldog75] Please be prepared and have all necessary legal work done. This is crucial for One's estates. Avoid the taxes in the future by doing one's legal work NOW. I love you all. The putt is falling in from 'the Pro side'. Our future is here. Good Night. Sleep well. You all are awesome and are here to change Our World to be a better place. Amen. Good Night. See you in the morning.

[Freedomfighter] Bulldog75 Howdy Sir question on the EIN # been trying on the IRS website to apply for one, they say they cannot process online must call them. The instruction for the 911 trust say to DO NOT call them they will screw it up for sure. Any suggestions?
[Bulldog75] Freedomfighter : the complication is the name of the Trust usually. Call em pls. ........On the 911 trust; just enter your email , name and phone # . They will communicate with you that way, ; thats not a web site butcorrespondence email address for your convenience. thanks. Sleep well. 

POSTS IN DINARLAND, 19 JUNE


We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things, because we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths. - Walt Disney

Topic at 3sintel: "Fear can only prevail when victims are ignorant of the facts."--Thomas Jefferson

Precious] eleanor got any idea on time?

7:18 AM [eleanor] well I liked Bobgetz post yesterday which meant waiting til thurs

[goin4broke] Eleanor Just read your post on Recaps and thought it was very astute on your part. I know I've read we have so much oil here in the U.S. that we could never need oil from the rest of the World if we started taking our vast amounts instead of relying on others.

All of us are like kids on Christmas Eve we know it is coming, we hope that it is true, and we know that all of the days after it happens will be wonderful for all of us. Someone just push the button and let the World start changing for the better.
7:24 AM [eleanor] goin4broke hey Thanks the posting was just a little info gathered over the years and a lot of logic and a little common sense. This RV isn't rocket science but is a pretty involved equation.

drob1111 ] We need a 12 step plan for dinarholics

[drob1111 ] Hi, i'm Drob1111 and i'm a dinarholic

misskitty05] Interesting article this a.m. Bloomberg.com about Chase $2B in losses... "the discloseure of $2B in trading losses by [Chase] has prompted calls to end the [Fed reserve]. ...a clear example of the fox guarding the henhouse" !!!

[tb30] By the way last night on Fox they were saying that the market is waiting for something BIG to happen with our money to bail the other countries out.

[BULLY! BULLY!] Fox...Germany expects Spain to formally ask for bank bail out soon.

generals64] leaving for there in just a few minutes....hot and weary and tractor is too... kinda thought we might wake up wealthy this morning...

[generals64] oucrazy :...last night everything I heard from everyone I knew said it pointed to this morning...Seriously....Now, remember, I d reasearch and not predictions. .I promised not to bring the Drama to this room....However, if any of the stuff came true last night (so far it hasn't) then we are sitting in the right place. All of the predictions are simply speculative .

[generals64] oucrazy :...remember that Iraq has nothing to do with this RV now. That is what the banks and bankers are saying...I hope they are right and I hope this comes to an end real soon.

[generals64] dragn82 :...There is so much "Jumbled" Jargo on this topic that it is scary. If you read this or that they all have an opinion...(Kinda like having a nose...we all have one)...From what we have heard from the People in the banks...(Seriously not dream world people) this has been finished and is able to be released...But, It hasn't has it???

I personally think that it is closer than we realize. I personaly have made a conscience decision to not listen to the do-dahs anymore...I am going back to my original Research mode as that seemed to have always given the correct answers. I am not "beating " any of them up...I just want to know what is REALLY going on...

generals64] Personally, I don't worry about Maliki...I think he has more on his plate than to worry about this Revaluation....However, remember this :...........it is a CURRENCY EXCHANGE..........I don't care WHO says any different....

[bobbysac] generals64 we may never know the truth

[barb] _waterworld many positive signs RV is niow!!

[_waterworld] barb yes, waiting on the B20 and G20... IMO

[Stitch] barb all the incoming inforfmation is positive and looking excellent for the RV

[_waterworld] FYI... According to Kissinger.... Engagement with the West is now central to China achieving its economic goals, and incoming governments in both China and the United States have every incentive to maintain the status quo.

RickeyT] Precious if I remember correctly, Shabibi has been to parliament 4 times for approval to revalue the currency, they said "go for it" , but due to the political situation, Shabs said " not yet"

[Precious] RickeyT sounds about right

[Precious] i think it is done and just waiting till the right time..when that is idk

[Sparkles] Precious Shabs should just jump in feet first and let'er rip lol

[Precious] i agree lol

[beenready] All 3 of them were pretty excited yesterday...especially bluwolf...He went way out on the limb and said it had RV'd

[Austria75] This war between OOM and Intel4U is ridiculous. Please let it go people. I too was on the chat when Soonerfan62 said that Okie had sent that message. From that I have to beleive that OKIE doesn't want this feud to continue. I am posting this on both sites. Hope those who are upset can let go. Please

Angel] everyone is on edge, understandably so. people say and do things under stress they normally would never even think of

BGG: Maliki received a letter from the severe criticism by the Adviser to the Deputy Chairman of the U.S. Let's hope this apparent shift in US policy towards Maliki is, in fact, legitimate. If it is he is probably done for sometime this week (provided he doesn't fully capitulate before Thursday). This is more really good news for us.

[careful1] well lets see we have al-queda gonna strike what was it the parliment?, then we got ummm the iranians saying they will bomb kurdistan, thennnnnnnnn we have sadr sayin he will bring out HIS militia, my question is dang is there gonna be an iraq left after all these threats...just a thought

[OfCourse13] careful1    I'm not even worried. Could be wrong, but all I hear is "My daddy can beat up your daddy" kind of mouthing off.

[careful1] exactly

namvet68] well, anyway you look at it, we're one day closer than yesterday