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Thursday, June 14, 2012

WANGDANG PLAYBACK , 14 JUNE

Thursday Night Conference Call with Wangdang

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100 Minutes

THIS CALL WILL REPRESENT THE CALL THAT NORMALLY TAKES PLACE ON SATURDAY
THERE WILL BE NO CALL THIS WEEKEND

HAMMERMAN POST, 14 JUNE

6-14-2012 Hammerman: THE WORD DEAD WITH THE elusively-valued Vietnamese currency IS POSTIVE. IT SIMPLY MEANS NOTHING LEFT TO DO BUT LIVE RATE. NO WORK. NO HOLD UPS. NO DELAYS. JUST WAITING ON THE LIVE RATE. 100% POSITIVE. MOST WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND. NO OFFENSE MEANT BUT WE ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO UNDERSTAND AT ALL. THAT IS WHY THEY ARE BREAKING ALL RULES ALL DOING BORDER LINE LEGAL STUFF. IN A NUT SHELL THEY MAKE THEIR OWN RULES DAILY AND CHANGE EVERTHING DAILY BY DESIGN

Reasons Behind OANDA Trading Halt


Reasons behind our Sunday trading halt
I guess Sunday you could hide under your bed...!!

OANDA will halt trading this Sunday, June 17, from 6:00 AM EDT until approximately 3:00 PM EDT. I would like to further explain OANDA’s reasoning for this action.

First off, OANDA is the only forex provider that permits off-market, weekend trading.

In truth, volumes during the weekend are much lower than typical trading days, but OANDA has made this available as a service for its clients rather than an opportunity to increase corporate revenues.

The decision to halt trading is very much tied to the uncertainty in Europe and in particular, the Greek election. Given these events, there is the potential for extreme exchange rate volatility at a time when global currency markets are closed. 
OANDA’s concern is that exchange rates could undergo significant fluctuations as the exit polls are being made public.

If these fluctuations are wide enough, accounts that under normal conditions would be considered well-capitalized, could become subject to a margin call.

By halting trading and holding the closing prices steady during this period, we aim to shelter traders from the potential for price spikes. Of course, once trading resumes, new market rates will come into effect and while the hope is that prices will have settled by this time, some accounts may still face the risk of a margin call.

This is why we have issued a warning recommending that traders reduce positions if they determine they are vulnerable from a margin perspective. At the very least, all traders should review their accounts prior to the weekend and ensure they have sufficient capital to prevent a margin call when trading resumes at the new market price.

On a final note, anyone with open positions during this time, regardless of their choice of forex broker, is at risk when exchange rates reset upon the resumption of trading.

Yes, sending out this message is to inform our traders of the trading halt, but it is first and foremost intended to inform the investing community of the potential volatility in the coming days and to provide sufficient time to make any necessary adjustments.

WANGDANG POST, 14 JUNE

[rdailey] WangDang just cleared something up that I didn't catch earlier, that Maliki offered to resign as head of the Cabinet of Ministries if they would give up the withdrawl of confidence, not to resign as PM. But Wang says he will. Also Wang says be ready to get our .86 - 1.17 in the next TWO DAYS.

rdailey] Wang says that everything that the Govt owes every person, is loaded on that Smart Card. Pensions, back pay, oil sharing revenues, bonuses, etc.

BREAKING NEWS, BGG POST UPDATE, 14 JUNE

Breaking News!!! 

Mr. Sadr, Maliki is filed request his resignation from the government
(great find Careful1 ;) )


On: Friday 6/15/2012 2:11
Citizen / follow-up in a telephone conversation today with Mr. Maliki Sayyid Muqtada al-Sadr, according to some informed sources that al-Maliki pledged to the deposit of a written resignation from his current official (Chairman of the Presidential Council of Ministers) as collateral for the implementation of what has been agreed upon or in the future with partners. Mr. Maliki also asked by Mr. Sadr to exercise its role as anintermediary Corporate entry to clear the air and dispel the tensions arising from the crisis of confidence between the partners and the political process between the government of Maliki

http://almowatennews.com/news.php?action=view&id=43796

The article is basically saying not only is Maliki willing fully implement all the previous agreements - he'll tender a resignation letter as a "guarantee" that he will do everything he says he is agreeing to. It's awesome!! :) Thanks Careful!

I told you guys - Maliki is scared senseless over being called in front of Parliament - he knows there is no way he'll survive it (politically).

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 14 JUNE

6-14-2012  Newshound Guru Med   MALIKI  IS SURVIVING POSSIBLY BEING REMOVED FOR IMPLEMENTING AFTER 2 YRS, BUT THIS IS NOT OVER FOR MALIKI.   HE, I BELIEVE, WILL ANSWER TO THE CORRUPTION HE WAS AND IS INVOLVED IN.  SETTLING IT SO ALL ARE HAPPY IS JUST AS GOOD AS BOOTING HIS ARSS OUT, AT LEAST FOR US IT IS.   WE DIDNT NEED MALIKI OUT BUT WE NEEDED HIM TO BE PUT ON THE CARPET FOR A BIT SO HE UNDERSTOOD THAT HE WAS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTROL IRAQ LIKE SADAAM DID.   I SEE THE FIRST REMNANTS OF THE MEETING THAT BIDEN HAD FOR TWO HRS  IS FINALLY OUT...THINGS ARE LOOKING PRETTY GOOD.

6-14-2012  Intel Guru BWM    [Article quote from Oanda FX Trade:  Due to the extreme volatility some market analysts foresee could result in the coming days, OANDA fxTrade will not accept any trading activity from 6:00 AM EST until approximately 3:00 PM EST, on Sunday, June 17, 2012.]    in the big scheme of things it doesn't seem to matter...it's not really forex...it's an "out of market" trading platform...so I think it's again something that we read into more than what is truly relevant.

6-14-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG  I’m looking for things to get “really kicked off” sometime headed toward this weekend thru about the middle of next week. It could have gone sooner – but didn’t.

6-14-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana    if you've been in this investment for over a year, you'll know that we have an important holiday coming up...Ramadan.  I say this every year...NOTHING gets done during Ramadan...if we don't see the RV before Ramadan, you can all pack your bags and go on a camping trip for a month because it will NOT happen during Ramadan...this yearRamadan...is Thursday July 19 - Saturday August 18. They have said that they planned to release a new currency in September of this year, so that gives us about 5 weeks between now and Ramadan, and almost 2 weeks after Ramadan to September...so in my opinion, we are sitting right on top of two very good windows of potential.   ["continued in post 4...stay tuned"]

6-14-2012  Intel Guru BWM   someone this morning posted there will NOT be a different rate IN Iraq vs what the rest of the world will get... it's mere folly to think that way...or you have your head stuck up the exhaust of a diesel engine too long [oh, my]...that is not how this plan was laid out.

6-14-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   Looks to me like they are getting ready to get “this show on the road” – everyone would have liked Talibani to send the “official word” but it wasn’t required. Talibani is under some kind of duress. It’s hard to tell exactly what it is – but he’s playing his part. In the mean time – they will proceed against Maliki. This forward movement should be a dead-giveaway as to where all the “high speed” rhetoric is coming from. Maliki is desperate to save his hide. He may get some outside help – but it may not be enough. These guys are p!ssed!!   [uhh ooohhh!!!]

6-14-2012  Newshound Guru Med   THERE IS A BUMP IN THE ROAD I BELIEVE THAT CAUSED IT TO DELAY SOME AND THAT WAS THE DUMB AGREEMENT FOR TRADE MALIKI SIGNED WITH IRAN AND SYRIA.  IT DECREASED THE VALUE OF THE DINAR AGAINST THE USD QUITE DRAMATICALLY.   NOW CBI HAD TO RESOLVE THIS AND THEN STOP THE FRAUDULENT WAYS THAT SOME WERE GETTING DINAR AND DOLLARS AND THEY HAVE BUT I BELIEVE IT DOESNT START TILL JULY 1.  I DO NOT THINK WE AT THIS MOMENT ARE IN ANY WORRY ABOUT THE DINAR NOT REVALUING,  I BELIEVE IT IS STILL ON THE SAME TIMEFRAME THAT THEY ALWAYS HAD.   I THINK THAT JULY THROUGH SEPT THINGS WILL TURN TO CBI AND HOW OR WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO REMOVE THE ZERO'S FROM THE NOMINAL VALUE.

6-14-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana  This is a process that takes time and it was never meant to happen a year, two years, 5 years, or a month ago. Nothing is going to happen with the currency until they get Chapter 7 and the HCL handledOnce that's wrapped up, they can change the rate.  ["continued in post 3...stay tuned"]

6-14-2012  Newshound Guru Kaperoni   “Raised the proposal to delete the zeros of the Iraqi currency."   This article is not goodIt appears clearly in this article they are talking redenomination or LOP. I am not giving up hope, but this seems pretty compelling that Iraq may not be honoring the dinar at face value post redenomination. The best one can gain from this is 2X or 3X our investment if this is true. 

6-14-2012  Newshound Guru Adam Montana   nobody has cashed in yet, so we're all here waiting still...the big deal in the news this week is the Kurds wanting to boot Maliki for failing to get his act together...there is no bad news to reportIraq is still moving forward, and in my opinion our odds of making good on this investment continue to get better.

HISTORIAN POST, 14 JUNE


Hello Everyone! I discussed these CNBC videos on the June 13th RoundTable on The GET Team cc. There was a rumour that CNBC might have "slipped up" and talked about a "global reset". I was watching for that, but did not see anyone see anything of that nature. The term "global reset" is used quite a bit these days in the media, so it does not automatically refer to the long-awaited RV.

For some time, the mainstream business and financial news media have been debating the possibility of a "global reset" as economists and others analyze potential solutions to the Eurozone.

While use of this term is not reporting the RV, I believe that it does relate to the RV. It has all the characteristics of deliberate "messaging" to raise the public consciousness about the possibility of a global reset, so that when the RV and global financial changes do finally occur, they will not be such a shock to everyone.
They will instead appear reasonable and significant. This "messaging" is a form of education and also a preparation for culture change. It is how a formally managed transformation would prepare people for a massive change that could have emotional and psychological impacts.

The videos do one other thing that is important for "messaging", education and culture change. They educate the public on how a country would switch from one currency to another.

In the videos, they discuss the drachma and their hypothesis of how such a switch would occur.

For example, there might be a 1:1 exchange of the Euro for drachmas, and then after that market mechanisms would be deployed and the drachma would find its new rate. The explanation in the videos is done very well, so it is worth watching.

It covers all the basics -- what would happen to people's pay and bank accounts, what would happen to contracts written in Euros that have not yet been paid, how a return to paper drachmas and how electronic trading of the drachma would occur, etc. The example could easily apply to any country and currency, including the Fed USD.

The Videos

Here are the links. If they don’t take you to the videos themselves, just use the date and caption to find the videos in the archive. On Wed afternoon, they were already on page 12. The second video covers the explanation on how a redenomination of the drachma might work. It is included in the latter half of the first video.

Is $125 Billion Enough for Spain's Banks?

MON 11 JUN 12 | 01:00 PM ET

David Bianco, Deutsche Bank, discusses the market's reaction to Spain's bailout.
LINK

What If Greece Leaves?

Mon 11 Jun 12 | 01:10 PM ET

http://video.cnbc.com/gallery/
LINK

Conclusion

So what are my thoughts on all this? All of the above is good for the RV. From a transformation perspective, this tells me where we are on the map of change, and that is indeed near the end. This type of activity ("messaging", communications and education) is part of a specific activity and area of expertise called "people change management". This type of messaging does not usually happen until the target event is drawing near . . . otherwise everyone will forget what they are taught - in which case they will have to be educated all over again so that the info can be "top of mind".

So while this info does not mean that the RV is going to be immediate, it does indicate that the current planned target date for a global reset is near.

Have a great day everyone!  :)   Historian

Excitement on TV news today from all around Dinarland, 14 JUNE


soonerfan62] Guys just coming in for a second, phone blowing up, lots going on.PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't call the banks, we're close, BBL

[oucrazy] . . . methinks there are a lot of villages with missing idiots with all the morons running to the banks!!!

oucrazy] .really?. . . I mean, really? What part of do not call the banks do these wack jobs not understand?

[[Expendable2] [pmw1973] just heard on radio that reuters stated that central banks will have a joined effort to inject laquidity into the systems after greek vote

[granny10] pmw1973 it is being reported on CNBC right now. The European central banks are injecting liquidity into system.. Where are they going to get the money to do this without a revaluation?

 [myprayerrealized] granny10 Good point

[Coffeeone] Welcome RV!

aTailDragger] Fox news @ 12 pm ADT says all central banks will be voting on Sunday for adjustments or corrections and help as needed for aid to Greece in financial recovery.
[misskitty05] anyone know when the Greek vote is?

 [granny10] They are very excited on CNBC.

[manifest] misskitty05 their Sunday... when is that?

 [they call me Ahab] granny10 They had it on Fox it caused a 150 point jump in the Dow....said it was coordinated central banks around the world...post Greek election...sounds like RV to me thud

 [granny10] they call me Ahab sounds like rv to me.

[janiesmiles] granny10 thank u for sharing what is going on on CNBC appreciate it

 [mbillions] Stocks jump on possible coordination from central.... banksjaniesmiles

[misskitty05] Greece is 7 hrs ahead of est

 [pmw1973] they call me Ahab MAJOR networks and local radio reporting how cool

 [JLARSEN] And interesting that the G20 is this weekend!

[misskitty05] maybe we'll se it when the market closes??

 [JLARSEN] honeybelle It's on CNBC now

[granny10] Wow, a coordinated bank effort in Europe to increase liquidity requires money.

[Jorel] tell me nothing but good news ... are we there yet?

 [GJHHonor] ette cnbc are saying breaking news said stocks jump on report of possible coordinationed action from central what does that mean

 [hollyberry] Jorel Imminent, soon, close

 [mbillions] Central bankers on standby to ensure enough cash enters system --- reuters

[JLARSEN] They are saying that Central Banks are on standby to make sure there is enough money to put into the system....this is on CNBC

 [granny10] hollyberry Now CNBC is saying it is around the world. In asia, etc,. Here we go I think.

[misskitty05] CNN: stocks rally on speculation that the Fed may soon pull the trigger on more economic stimulus woo hoo!

[granny10] Isn't it true that Iraq is meeting with UN tomorrow to get out of chapter 7? Don't they have to revalue before they can be released?

[JLARSEN] CNBC..... they said that making sure the funds for Eurozone are available if needed starting Sunday.

Templejc] Reuters - central banks prepared for action if needed after greek election

[Templejc] DOW goes up 117 points in 9 minutes

yz] :dang: right now: cnbc: stocks cyrate on report of possible coordinated action from central banks :dang:

[Templejc] Euro zone will hold cc on sunday night - they are fearing a run on banks

pulaski] JLARSEN I am hoping there will be lots and lots of money floating around before sunday so they don't need it lol

[JLARSEN] Well, the people on CNBC have said that in their time at Wall Street... they have never seen anything like this.

granny10] CNBC is a cable tv show which does strictly finance. I don't have a link for that. It is tv. Any coordinated effort by banks to inject cash into the system for a "global" purpose is good news to us, IMO.

asher] from Fox news: Global central banks are preparing a coordinated action to provide liquidity to financial markets following the Greek election on Sunday if it becomes necessary, according to a report by Reuters, citing unnamed G20 sources. The markets and the euro are rallying on the news, with the

dmama] Expendable2 here's the link from cnbc http://www.cnbc.com/id/47812235

[dmama] Here's the reuters' link:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/14/us-eurozone-centralbanks-idUSBRE85D1FW20120614

mrsjim54] daniandquin morning sweet lady. i am just getting on the scene this morning and discovered the Oanda market alert. this seems to me to be the best mainstream indication we will ever get that currencies will be RVd. woohoo, i am over the moon.

[daniandquin] mrsjim54 pretty good eh?!

 [mrsjim54] daniandquin it's unbelievable! i never expected such an announcement!

daniandquin] mrsjim54 if you keep your eyes peeled, you'll see a few more things like that over the next couple of days IMO

[hollyberry] ok, let's be real, all the banksters and politians and gov agents have all cashed in for the past two month....do you really tink they're gonna talk about it before it publically RV's for us little minnows? This is MHO of coarse, but they've been moving $ around so they can announce a global reset and bail out the world and look like hero's...This is just what I tink ok!

hollyberry] Ok, let's review! We're about to be rich so let's not get stupid. :grin: Wisdom comes from the counsil of many (finanical advisors who manage big wealth). We are no longer sheep as we have graduated this year with Rvology degrees and we all know not to trust banksters anymore. Does anyone else have beads of wisdom to add to this pile?

BGG POST UPDATE, 14 JUNE


Talabani: Maliki officially informed us of his readiness to implement the previous agreements

Said President Jalal Talabani received Thblgaat an official from Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and the National Alliance confirms readiness for the implementation of previous agreements. Criticized the explanatory statement issued by the Office of the President at the same time, statements by some leaders of the Iraqi List.

The statement disclosed Wednesday evening from the failure of the President sign the paper Arbil, again implicitly refusing to withdraw confidence from the Prime Minister….

He also noted that the President received a subsequent notifications, an official of the National Alliance and the Prime Minister to prepare for the respect and implementation of previous agreements and taking into account paragraphs contained in the “Letter of Arbil,” except paragraph no confidence. “ 
noting that “a fact that the position of President Talabani, who starts always from being the head of the state and must therefore remain neutral and a sponsor of the consensus of the national reunification and unity a role that will make him lose if you stop with one party against another party .. We hope to put this statement, an end to the statements Almjavih of reality and contrary to the spirit of constructive dialogue, honesty and truthfulness

http://www.radiodijla.com/cgi-bin/news/news_item.pl?id=2012-06-13%2022:36:40#.T9lg4Bc7XB8

I have a funny feeling Talibani was hoping for this all along – he has had his heart set on a true “National Conference” since about Feb/Mar?? However, Maliki would never have gotten this far had there not be excruciating pressure on him (JMHO). Further, it’s not a done deal just yet. He has to actually get the “trigger pulled” – just him crying “wolf” one more time otherwise and I don’t think they will delay proceedings to see if he’s lying or not. Once Parliament convenes – he’s pretty much “cooked”.

Urgent …Deal behind the scenes: Allawi gets the presidency of the Council and the political powers of a full retreat from the withdrawal of confidence from the Maliki!!

BAGHDAD / Knights of hope

A source in the Iraqi secret meetings taking place behind the scenes between the lead in a coalition of state law and the leader of the coalition in Iraq, Iyad Allawi, to reach a formula that satisfies both parties to end the political crisis of the list.

The source, who declined to be named, said that “leadership in the state law, the envoy of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, offered Allawi to give him the post of Chairman of the National Council for the strategic policies and authorities provided for in accordance with the Convention on Arbil first return back on the subject of withdrawal of confidence and not to transport it to the House of Representatives so as not to worsen the crisis more than they are now. ”

The source added that “Allawi gave preliminary approval to the leader of the state law on condition that documents the official letter and then put in the House of Representatives for a vote to be legal action and without diligence by lawmakers in the future according to Aotaoelh fancies.”

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://fursanalamal.com/ArticleShow.aspx%3FID%3D3391&usg=ALkJrhiiO5jcTOZUI5_85YrYkPpQedS–g
If Maliki truly follows through on this deal – in my estimation, the hardest part (NCSP board) would already be agreed to. The rest of the items needed to stop the proceedings against him could be done fairly quick and easy. This is the one that could turn out to be a bugger…like I said though – it’s not a done deal just yet. I do see him as pretty shaken up by what he sees coming next week though.

Source in Iraq: Twenty MPs have joined the new, demanding no-confidence

Baghdad / Orr News

Disclosed an official source in the Iraqi List, said the list had the support of twenty deputies to join the claimants no confidence in Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.

And said the source, who declined to be named, told (Orr) that “the efforts of no-confidence is still ongoing and it is increasing continuously,” noting that “the twenty deputies agreed to submit a request to question al-Maliki as a prelude to change it.”

The source indicated that “the number of signatories of Representatives has 170 deputies, and there are ten other legislators did not sign, but they vowed to vote in the parliamentary hall with confidence,” explaining that “the Kurdish regional President Massoud Barzani are dialogues with political parties to mobilize more signatures.”

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.uragency.net/2012-03-11-16-31-52/2012-03-11-16-33-35/4747-2012-06-14-07-28-20.html&usg=ALkJrhg_G4VyZewdzk5JlmkN4NE3iPVKOA
There seem to be two parallel tracks – one side for a deal being made and the other pushing for an immediate “no confidence vote” – which is highly likely the reason he’s even talking deal. Or at least he better be – as soon as Parliament shows up they will get right to it!!

Talabani sent a message to the leaders of the four shows why he opposed the request to withdraw confidence.

BAGHDAD / electronic integrity

Sent President Jalal Talabani, a letter of reply to a message from the leaders of four political blocs explaining why he refused to sign the request for the withdrawal of confidence in Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.

And the transfer of the Information Office of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan spokesman for the Union Party Jindiyani Azad as saying that “President Talabani has prepared a letter of reply to the message received by the meeting of the parties to Erbil, explain all the facts as

These parties are for specific reasons which he refused to sign a message to the Iraqi Parliament Speaker Osama Najafi on the withdrawal of confidence from Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki. ”

 He declined Jindiyani detect the content of that letter justified his refusal by saying that “Iraqi leaders have not disclosed the content of their message to President Talabani, and respect us for this position, we also will not disclose the content of a letter Talabani, pleading, and if declared those parties the content of its message, then we will publish the text of the letter of the President Republic of the media. ”

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.alestiqama.com/news.php%3Fcat%3Dsiasy%26id%3D2821&usg=ALkJrhjhofyYpY4QaqASnS1UBoDjc5JcMQ
So the bottom line was – Talibani opposed the move for some reason – it wasn’t just about signatures…and their threats to expose one another tells me there is a lot more going on here than meets the eye.

Here are some interesting headlines…

Iraq denies side deals between Allawi and Maliki accuses the media of “jamming”

Now that this deal got out in the open – no one wants to admit it.

Hakim calls on Maliki to detect files that threatens the critical mass and brandishing their

Hakim is saying “MALIKI – put the weapon down and back away”!!

Security Committee warns Maliki of his efforts to raise the barriers surrounding the parliament

They all know what he’s up to. None of it worked. He will either execute his agreements or be gone.

*** Rumor Comments *** June 14th

Rumor – My intel is good so far ,,,,, if i tell yall all i have today ,,yalls heads would explode to ,,,

Someone needs and explaination of what “good intel” means!! ;)

Rumor – an yes im in contack with 10 are so whales that have cashed out ,,,comferming all morning,,,2.72 is what i am being told ,,,not the offical rate just what is on the cards for every day iraq peeps ,,,,, gov an military qwill get more i being told.

There are no early “cash-outs” (just yet). The bit about smart cards is just not true – and once there is a rate it will be the same for everyone. Period.

Rumor – is it true that CNN/CNBC announced a revalue of currencies for tomorrow? I even saw that someone said at 1:32pm (Thursday). Any truth to that?

There may be some “adjustments” on the way – but until there is a “firm” powersharing deal in place for Iraq – the IQD will not be part of the scenario.

Rumor – Have you any confirmations of any what we read about a rate “in country” of $2.72, smart cards being issued, a speech by (President) O (Obama) today?

Our President makes speeches regularly – that’s his job. What it will be about – another thing entirely…the cards might be issued – but they won’t contain a “secret RV’d rate” – I promise. There won’t be an “in” and “out” of country rate – only one currency in the world does that – 1!! Mainly because they want to promote spending at home.

BWM CHAT, 14 JUNE


1:00 PM 3sIntel[BWM] HEY TONY...

[BWM] Good Afternoon Everyone...

[BWM] ok I have a question for everyone... how can gas at an Exxon station in Texas be different from an Exxon in Louisiana... or better yet, from one exit to another how can the prices be different in the same stations EVEN owned by the same ppl...

[bfind] BWM supply and demand

[BWM] bfind is it really.. there is the same supplier... and does demand vary that much in several miles...

[BWM] so let me put it to you this way... how can the dollar be worth one amount in Mexico and another in Canada...

[BWM] I'm addressing the fact that someone this morning posted there will NOT be a different rate IN Iraq vs what the rest of the world will get... it's mere folly to think that way... or you have your head stuck up the exhaust of a diesel engine too long...

[bfind] BWM i read some where that in iraq there trading the dinar at $2.72 have u heard that
[BWM] bfind yeah I have heard something to that effect but along the lines of the value of the smart cards... while I have heard "loading" stories I have yet to confirm the "activity" of such loaded cards... so even if they had a value they are not usuable yet that I know of..

[bfind] BWM if theres a small bank in town in town to cash out at and not a wf for 200 miles will they be trying to match wf probley not i thank

[BWM] bfind we have a total of 3 big four banks in my state, all WF's, the closest being about 65 miles away... I have tried to work with them for some time getting information (to be fair to them they were "bought" out, not corporate WF) and had no success... not even recognizing the dinar. I will be going to Texas to cash out because I trust the banker that I have been working with

[bfind] BWM explain smart cards if u can this is something new to me and dont no how they r using them

[BWM] bfind the entire middle east has gone to an "ID" card system which contains all the citizens pertinent info on... some have real problems with this due to security concerns... if you think about it, how better to control a society than by controlling their money... consider if the government would not allow cash transactions where would that put you?

[gardener] BWM Texas has four very large federally mandated reformulation zones where the prices will reflect the special blending required in the area.

[BWM] gardener it was merely an analogy to the competitive and regulated issues we deal with on products, services and such... thanks for the info tho on Texas, very interesting

[lynncool] BWM I need a good banker in the metroplex - know of any??

[BWM] lynncool I'd make some "interviews" up and find someone that A. recognizes the dinar and is willing to discuss it and B. that you feel some level of trust or connection with

[bfind] BWM thank goodness i have a large city near by with just about every bank know to man so plenty of bank to cash out at and the can compet with one another

[BWM] bfind good for you... i'd have already started the interview process if I was you... even if I didn't have the money yet to open an account

[FIRECRACKERMAN56] BWM, Are we not real close to doing that here.imo. Yes.

[BWM] FIRECRACKERMAN56 I feel we are right there... I'm just tired of standing in the same spot

[bfind] BWM i got a phone call yesterday some people r saying in less then 48 hours we should be at the banks anythoughts

[BWM] bfind if I had a quarter for every hour I was supposed to be at the bank I wouldn't need an rv...

[boomer1110] BWM - Did I dream this or did someone say if the rv hadn't occurred by Thurs LaGarde would do it herself? It's 10PM in Bagdad, so if something was going to happen from there, I would imagine it will be overnight...or are they completely out of the picture. Sound confusing? I am confused!

[BWM] boomer1110 they start their meeting about this time at night (the productive ones at least) due to heat issues... so this is why we usually get a lot of information out in the afternoon after they complete them

[bfind] BWM how close r we

[BWM] bfind you know the middle easterners like to get "uncomfortably" close when carrying on a conversation...

[BWM] bfind nothing as of yet to share... still confirmations coming in on some things that I'd really like to hear resolution on...

[BWM] I just didn't want anyone concerned of the "diesel fumes" of the idea that the rate that shows up in Iraq will be the same everywhere... that is not how this plan was laid out...

[Dinarblessed] BWM I am having a hard time understanding the confusion surrounding the back packages. You have been telling us for a long time to be prepared and the bank packages help us to do just that....

[BWM] Dinarblessed the confusion seems to be between differintiating between "codes" and "packages"... two different things...

[bfind] BWM whats ur thought on fxtrade closing sunday

[BWM] bfind really in the big scheme of things it doesn't seem to matter.. it's not really forex... it's an "out of market" trading platform... so I think it's again something that we read into more than what is truly relevant

[bfind] BWM if we have to sign a discloser at the banks dose that mean that we wont no a rate till we go to the banks

[BWM] bfind even if you had to sign a nda to get the rate.. it doesn't matter, you are still not obligated to trade at that bank... it just keeps you from running thru the streets proclaiming the rate that you were offered..

[bfind] BWM i understand that part i guess what im trying to ask is well we no a rate before we go to the banks

[BWM] bfind that is hard to say... I don't think we'll really understand a lot of things until this breaks...

[bfind] BWM everything is just a guess for now or our best undrestanding

[BWM] bfind the biggest problem is too many "facts" being proposed... which makes most of the time spent debunking what we "can" believe

[TRUENORTH] BWM please sir...that NDA is a very one sided contract...how would we protect our mysterious rate with them from a frivilous claim that we have disclosed, so they could drop rate.

[BWM] TRUENORTH if you are not going with them then you obviously have no reason to disclose any information... and I think the banks know or will find out what the others are offering... again, it will come down to how badly the banks want your business... and let's be honest. For all the junk we've heard about .86 cents and such and you go into the bank and give them a code and they offer you $xx.00 are you really going to complain? we are struggling over dynamics that are not only yet to be revealed BUT also that may not really matter.

[Dinarblessed] bfind You will know the rate that it rv's at, which will be posted for everyone to see at forex, cbi or dealers. That rate will give you a starting point. Is that right BWM ? or wrong?

[BWM] Dinarblessed there will be "differences" but you will see the base..

[drizz] BWM ~ I'm assuming that when they RV we CAN discuss the CBI rate and the dealers rates so that when we go to WF we'll know how much more they are paying

[BWM] drizz yes... depending on when we see those things

[TRUENORTH] BWM I am not complainning about the rate, but am concerned about tactics. Once they have you signed in, they could frivilously claim you have disclosed to drop rate...then wht, they havethe money...I've dealt with banks and companies watching their agenda's. every minor move is major money, ty again

[BWM] TRUENORTH again, I think the situation will continue even post rv as a fluid event... banks will want you business... what will keep a bank from claiming you've broken your nda? well how about the other banks matching what was the known rate... I think the competition willl uphold the agreements

[moonchild29] BWM given how bad the situation is getting in Europe with Italy about to need a bailout, and how bad things are in the US, contrarily to what is being represented. How much longer do you think that the RVs can be put off?

[BWM] moonchild29 Italy has declared they will not need to be bailed out... so we'll see how that is resolved..

[walkingtall1943] BWM about nda

[BWM] walkingtall1943 NDA are built for protection... depending on how you use it, it can benefit you as you negotiate...

GEORGIABOY POST, 14 JUNE

06/13/2012
  [Georgiaboy] Just going out on a limb, but tomorrow looks pretty good ya'll

 [superbiz] Georgiaboy it really is FINALLY all falling together or am I still in dreamland???

[Angel] Georgiaboy I'll hold that limb for ya

[landons nana] Georgiaboy thank you!!!

[bcrt1] Georgiaboy so we should get a little excited, just maybe!?

[TotallyBlessed] Georgiaboy Georgiaboy praying for completion!!!! :yourock:

 [kansasgirl] Georgiaboy wooooo hooooooo and thank you!!!

[Georgiaboy] superbiz It really has all fallen together in the last few days

 [superbiz] Georgiaboy ty I am starting to allow myself to get excited again!!!

[mkay] georgiaboy...tell us again about forex being closed?

 [Georgiaboy] It really is the awesome news!! No doubt about it!

crt1] Georgiaboy are any other forex sites suggesting the same?

[wclogr] Geargiaboy I saw that, don't think thats a normal ocurance

[Georgiaboy] wclogr It has Never Happened!

[joannc1] "OANDA fxTrade will not accept any trading activity from 6:00 AM EST until approximately 3:00 PM EST, on Sunday, June 17, 2012" Poorly worded, but after reading it...I agree with Vic404

[mamari4] joannc1 that seems to me to say 6am -3pm ext on sun jun 17

[bcrt1] hollyberry YES it is and of all nights to be totally whipped!!! :bliss:

[joannc1] vivrelereve sounds to me like they're saying 6am to 3pm est sunday the 17th

[Georgiaboy] joannc1 They tried to hide the ball the best they could.... lol

[Georgiaboy] ready4bank 6 AM EST Tomorrow from what I get from the article. Helpfull hits "closed for the next few days" and "forex aint open Sunday morning..."

[tangowoman] Georgiaboy I agree with you that it means tomorrow. Because they say extreme market volatility...in the coming days would suggest they want to be closed during that time. Sunday at 6 am will be too late.

Georgiaboy] Getting late, ya'll have a great night , and GO RV!! Good Nite

 Submitted by Tyler Durden on 06/13/2012 21:43 -0400

Volatility

From Oanda

Due to the extreme volatility some market analysts foresee could result in the coming days, OANDA fxTrade will not accept any trading activity from 6:00 AM EST until approximately 3:00 PM EST, on Sunday, June 17, 2012. OANDA believes the convergence of a major market event during off-market hours represents a potential trading risk and has taken this rare step to protect traders from excessive rate fluctuations.

 Please note that during this halt in trading, you can still access your account details but no trading activity will be accepted. For this reason, OANDA strongly recommends that all traders consider minimizing currency exposures prior to the trading halt.

If you do intend to maintain open positions during this period, be aware that OANDA will hold exchange rates steady during the trading halt. However, when trading resumes, rates will immediately adjust to the current market rate and it is possible that the updated rate could result in a margin closeout if the price has moved significantly against your positions.

 Therefore, it is your responsibility to ensure you have adequate funds in your account to prevent a margin closeout.

 OANDA apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause.

 For more information, please contact a Customer Service representative.

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ADAM MONTANA POST, 14 JUNE

6-14-2012 Adam Montana: The big deal in the news this week is the Kurds wanting to boot Maliki for failing to get his act together. It didn't happen, and I'll talk a little more about that later. If you've been in this investment for over a year, you'll know that we have an important holiday coming up... Ramadan. I say this every year, and every year people argue with me, but every year I am proven right. NOTHING gets done during Ramadan. If we don't see the RV before Ramadan, you can all pack your bags and go on a camping trip for a month because it will NOT happen during Ramadan. Lucky for us, we have a few weeks before Ramadan and then we have a few weeks after Ramadan before the September deadline hits us. So, in my opinion, we are sitting right on top of two very good windows of potential. I know it might seem like things are being "set back", but that's simply not the case. The "gurus" out there will say things were "set back" to defend themselves when they are once again wrong on a predicted RV date but the truth is nothing has been "set back." This is a process that takes time and it was never meant to happen a year, two years, 5 years, or a month ago. Nothing is going to happen with the currency until they get Chapter 7 and the HCL handled. Once that's wrapped up, they can change the rate. Tarriffs are extra taxes imposed on goods. They don't signify an RV. One could make the argument that it would be silly to add extra tax on goods that are out of the average Iraqi's reach in the first place, unless there was a plan to increase the wealth of the average Iraqi in the near future, but the tarrifs themselves have nothing to do with the value of the currency. This year Ramadan check-in time is Thursday July 19, and check out is Saturday August 18. They have said that they planned to release a new currency in September of this year, so that gives us about 5 weeks between now and Ramadan, and almost 2 weeks after Ramadan to September. 5 weeks is a lot of time to get something accomplished! I obviously can't say for sure if it WILL or not, but it's a definite possibility. They have been working towards a resolution of HCL and Chapter 7 for years and getting closer all the time. 

STRYKER POST, 14 JUNE


6-14-2012 Stryker365: Let me see if I can help make sense of this (today's article from finance committee). NO MATTER WHAT THIS SOUNDS GOOD. ****Revaluation of the dinar against the U.S. dollar **** WHAT DID HE JUST SAY, HE DIDN'T. OH YES HE DID!!! HERE HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE DINAR GOING INTERNATIONAL, SEE "the existence of "critical theory" which states the general acceptance of the currency and the strength of attraction in all countries such as the dollar which has a acceptability all over the world, while the Iraqi dinar deal it only in Iraq, and continued:  Demand If you find a dynamic price tag is determined by dynamically If there is supply and demand by the rising price of these flow rates lead to increased bad was local or foreign." NOW HERE HE MAY BE TALKING ABOUT THE RATE BEING MOVED TO 1000:1 BUT KEEP IN MIND THEY AREN'T GOING TO TELL US THE REAL RATE, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT'S BS. "Iraq has oil revenues in dollars of foreign to make a thousand dinars dollar, a thousand dinars dollar and can be withdrawn by the Iraqi currency." TAKING IQD OUT OF THE MARKET IMO  "and pumped the largest amount of dollars." PUMPING LARGE AMOUNTS OF USD INTO THE MARKET "and reduce the width of the Iraqi currency will become more valued." REDUCE THE WIDTH OF THE IRAQI CURRENCY!!!  "will become more valued." WILL BECOME MORE VALUED!!!!!  "and all these factors lead to high exchange rate of Iraq against the U.S. dollar." ALL THESE FACTORS LEAD TO HIGH EXCHANGE RATE!!!  NO MATTER WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING MAY FINALLY HAPPEN

MED CHAT, 14 JUNE

06/14/2012

 Med says to (10:49:57): I NEED THE FLOOR THIS MORNING I GOT A CALL YESTERDAY FROM A MEMBER I AM CLOSE TO SHE IS LIKE A 2ND MOM TO ME SHE SAID MED WHAT IS THE TRUTH IS THIS EVER GOING TO HAPPEN WE HAD A BAD CONNECTION SO IT WAS HARD TO EXPLAIN WITH ALL THE INTERFERENCE

BUT I WILL TRY NOW TO EXPLAIN MY THOUGHTS BASED ON THE FACTS AS WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THEM AND BY WHAT WE ARE WATCHING NOW INSIDE IRAQ

THERE WERE 80 PLUS IRAQI'S INJURED OR KILLED IN A RECENT TERROR ATTACK MALIKI AND OTHERS HAVE NO CLUE HOW TO NOT ESCALATE THINGS BY THE WORDS THEY CHOOSE RIGHT AWAY WITHOUT ANY EVIDENCE OF WHO DID IT IT NATURALLY HAD TO COME OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS IT WAS THE NEW ALLIANCE

NOW EVEN THOUGH THIS SEEMS BAD IN REALITY WE HERE IN THE U.S. PER CAPITA ARE A MUCH MORE VIOLENT COUNTRY THAN IRAQ

REMEMBER THEY HAVE A LIMITED NEWS SERVICE WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF RADIO AND TV AND NEWSPAPERS SO THE NEWS IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME IN SUCH A SMALL COUNTRY

IT SEEMS MUCH WORSE THAN IT REALLY IS  THE POLITICAL ISSUES ACTUALLY SEEM TO BE TAMING DOWN

YES MALIKI DID SCREW OVER THE LIST AND KURDS AND YES THEY ARE DEFINATELY THE MOST CORRUPT BUT THIS IS THE MIDDLE EAST AND THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT HAS IT GOING ON JUST WE ARE WATCHING IT 24/7 AND THE CENTRAL BANK

THIS IS MY OPINION BASED ON FACTS THEY SHOULD HAVE REVALUED TWICE IN O9 THEY MISSED IT WAITING FOR NEW ECONOMIC GROWTH WHICH NEVER HAPPENED

THEN IT WAS THE STABILITY ISSUE FOR SHABIBI WHEN THE GOI HAD NOT FORMED IN JULY 2010 HE CAME OUT ALL ***** TO THE WALL ON IT WAS READY TO BE TURNED OVER TO THE NEW GOI

BUT AFTER WATCHING ALL THEY HAVE BEEN DOING TO GET THIS READY I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW THOUGH THERE IS A BUMP IN THE ROAD I BELIEVE THAT CAUSED IT TO DELAY SOME AND THAT WAS THE DUMB AGREEMENT FOR TRADE THE MALIKI SIGNED WITH IRAN AND SYRIA

AND WE ALL KNOW HOW THAT TURNED OUT IT DECREASED THE VALUE OF THE DINAR AGAINST THE USD QUITE DRAMATICALLY NOW CBI HAD TO RESOLVE THIS AND THEN STOP THE FRUADULENT WAYS THAT SOME WERE GETTING DINAR AND DOLLARS

AND THEY HAVE BUT I BELIEVE IT DOESNT START TILL JULY 1 I DO NOT THINK WE AT THIS MOMENT ARE IN ANY WORRY ABOUT THE DINAR NOT REVALUING I BELIEVE IT IS STILL ON THE SAME TIMEFRAME THAT THEY ALWAYS HAD I THINK THAT JULY THROUGH SEPT THINGS WILL TURN TO CBI AND HOW OR WHEN THEY ARE GOING TO REMOVE THE ZERO'S FROM THE NOMINAL VALUE

I KNOW YOU ALL HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WE JUST HAVE TO BE A BIT MORE THIS REMEMBER STILL IS A INFANT  FOR A DEMOCRACY AND IF WE GO BACK IN OUR HISTORY IT WAS NOT EASY AND MANY A HARSH WORD WERE TRADED AND MUCH VIOLENCE

I BET WHEN THE CIVIL WAR CAME MOST OF EUROPE THOUGHT AMERICA WAS OVER AND WE PROVED TO SURVIVE ONE OF THE GREATEST TRADGEDIES THIS NATION WAS EVER INVOLVED IN SO WHEN THINKING ABOUT THE POSITION WE ARE IN TAKE ALL THOSE THINGS INTO CONSIDERATION OK

JUST SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT I HOPE IT HELPS SOME TY MED OUT

MEMPHIS POST, 14 JUNE


I have a few questions for anyone that wants to answer them, and if not Frankie Frankie, might you address them tonight if you can?
1. If we do not see anything of an increase by the 15th or end of the month, why then would we expect it in September? I personally do not. September does not meet my definition of this being the season. That would be the next season and the situation that they face is too untenable IMO for such delay. They have stated that the re-pricing needs to coincide with the F.Y. budget. This initially might require an RV ONLY to occur on or about January 1st of a given year. I quickly disregarded such a strict interpretation. What seems plausable to me is that the mid year point, going into their third qtr. on July 1st fits this definition just fine. If this bothers ppl, then ask yourself this: "Do we seriously expect the CBI to lay this out plainly for us to see and forecast?"

2. I understand that S said the lower denoms were to come out in september but he also has said things like it will be done in 2011, in the mecca of 2012, and other things I cannot remember right now. This is not to criticize S, but things that have been said by him have either been premature or he does not have control of the ball. Yes he said September. To be correct tho I believe what Saleh said was the lower denominations were to begin production in September. Exactly why I do not expect it in September. To expect a Central Banker to tell us his plans especially on a project of this magnitude is something that I choose NOT to hold onto tightly! Just my opinions here...
They must release the lower denom bills immediately upon re-pricing their currency. Obviously then, it follows that IMO they have these bills already in hand. Otherwise it would be foolish for me to think that THIS is the season....
I have yet to read Wednesday's news OR listen to the CC but at last count, they have not spoken of the RV project for several days. The CBI APPEARS to be busy with other things....

3. If they continue to wait for the last nano second, why would they bring out the lower denoms and revalue in September when they will not meet with the UN again until January to be released from chp 7? see # 10 below.... 

4. If the game is played as it has been in the past they will wait until the first of the year and release LD's, and then RV right before meeting with the UN, why do this so early and wait for another 3 months for a release?

5. If I have seen this properly it appeared that the tariff laws were in the gazette and are to go into effect at the end of this June, that being said if there is not an increase in the currency what has to happen for them to move this back even further now, does this have to go to a re-vote? The tariff law was passed like two years ago. All that we are seeing at present is it enforcement. I have said endless times that I expect it to be enforced finally. Not because the RV is coming but because they are motivated to get accepted into the WTO and the tariff tax will in the long term promote production and growth of their own economy. The question of putting it off if the IQD is not re-priced? That is based on speculation that the RV is required for the tariff. This speculation has no basis in any news that I have read. Suggesting that the tariff needs to be delayed to fit with the RV is therefore simply adjusting the facts to fit this speculation! Have you seen any evidence that they plan to delay the tariff? I haven't...
To finish this point, will the tariff in July cause further problems for them if done in the absense of the RV? Yes. It is therefore further motivation FOR the RV but to make it a requirement is not accurate...

6. Do they still have enough money in the DFI funds to pay all the contracts they have been signing? Doubtful we will know any specifics on this. At least not at my pay grade...


7. If those contracts have being signed and paid at a 3.86 rate, unless they RV or increase at a rate higher than this they sure have lost a lot of money haven't they? this makes no sense to me at all. Me either. I have seen no evidence of any contracts paid at 3.86. Have you?

8. Will the citizens wait until the end of the year and hope it will get done even then, or will we start seeing demonstrations for lack of by the citizens?
One of the factors that I consider is the summer heat. The summers in Iraq are BRUTAL. The lack of energy and A/C takes it's toll and it is apparent the people are tired of the ineptitude in resolving this. I speculate that this is a further motivator for the re-pricing of the IQD in the summer. It will not provide relief from the heat but it will make the people happy.


9. If UN does not release on the 15th, can they hold a special meeting to release them if they get it done before the end of June?
The final Ch 7 IMO may not be lifted this month. I base this largely on the news posted by IH on tuesday of the UNSC report on the events of Jan-May.
Their mandate expires on July28 but the news indicated that this [and it's requisite funding] will be extended. We will see. The UNSC can obviously meet at any time to resolve and remove these final sanctions. It ALL hinges on the issues with Kuwait. The news has not been consistent in this regard [big suprise huh?] Initially it was all gumdrops and lollipops, leaving little doubt that Ch7 lifting was a done deal. I even spoke at length to this. Of late however, we are reading of this, that and the other languishing issue still not totally agreed upon or settled. Such things as missing persons is so abstract and likely never to be 'resolved' that I just ignore it. Boundry lines, port issues etc are tangible issues that two months ago I THOUGHT we had closure on! We will see...

10. And after all is said and done, if they get it done by the end of June will the UN make them wait to be released until Jan 2013 or will they be nice and help them along and out before then? This is #9 cleverly re-worded....nice try.... 

Sorry for all the questions but it is just things I have been pondering since it appears that this is going longer than the Mecca I thought it would go. Any thought would be appreciated

CBI sets a time limit for banks to reach their capital 250 billion dinars, 14 JUNE


CBI sets a time limit for banks to reach their capital 250 billion dinars

Baghdad, June 14 (Rn) – Iraq’s central bank said Thursday that he set a time limit for all banks in Iraq to increase their capital and reached the roof of 250 billion dinars, indicating that the end of the selection is to improve the banking dealings.
And exceeds the number of banks in Iraq and 50 banks with more than 800 branches spread across the provinces, which still is a little number compared with the population.
The deputy governor of Bank of the appearance of Mohammed, told the Kurdish news agency (Rn) “We asked all banks in Iraq by increasing their capital to strengthen their dealings and give them loans more,” noting that “the minimum capital duty and arrival at the next June is 250 billion dinars.”
The Deputy Governor explained that “each bank should be present during June with a capital of 250 billion dinars … banks currently seeking to increase their capital and the central bank is working to improve their work and not by the sword of Damocles.”
Iraq has suffered from a decline in per capita share of banking services for up to a bank an average of one per 40 thousand people, is a big difference from what exists in neighboring countries.
The main task of the Iraqi Central Bank to maintain price stability and the implementation of monetary policy, including exchange rate policies and the management of foreign currency reserves and the organization of the banking sector.
http://bit.ly/NkqyZ9

Iraqi planning distribution of 25% its oil revenue of oil to citizens by the end of the year, 14 JUNE


Iraqi planning distribution of 25% its oil revenue of oil to citizens by the end of the year

Baghdad, June 13 (Rn) – The Iraqi Ministry of Planning Tuesday it is nearing completion of the finalization of the basic instructions for the distribution of share of oil by 25% on the population by the end of this year, according to what passed the House of Representatives.
The Minister of Planning Ali Shukri, told the Kurdish news agency (Rn) that “it Diwani formation of the relevant committee for the distribution of 25% of oil imports to citizens not issued until now.”
“We are working with the Ministry of Finance prior to issuance of the order to keep the instructions and the basic arrangements for the distribution of this ratio.”
The thanks that his ministry is working with the committees of the financial and economic situation in the House of Representatives and the Ministry of Finance to put the finishing touches to these instructions and the plan of distribution. “
He said that during the next few will be Diwani will be distributed this quota before the end of the year.
The cleric Moqtada al-Sadr has stipulated that his bloc vote on the adoption of the federal budget law is part of the distribution of oil revenues to the population directly.
The House of Representatives during a vote on the budget by deducting part of the oil revenue and distributed to the population.
http://bit.ly/KIOgHf

Iraq List denies side deals between Allawi and Maliki; accuses points to “interference”, 14 JUNE


Iraq List denies side deals between Allawi and Maliki; accuses points to “interference”

Denied the Iraqi List, Thursday, the reports about the presence of side deals between its leader, Iyad Allawi, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, while confirming that the parties to Erbil, Najaf is still determined to withdraw confidence from the al-Maliki, accused the points of information campaigns be launched “in order to confuse the citizens and the withholding of facts for them.” .
The spokeswoman said the list Maysoon al in a statement released today, and received “Alsumaria News,” a copy of it, that “the coalition in Iraq and its allies in the Liberal bloc and the Kurdistan Alliance and the forces and personalities of other national are moving resolutely in the process of withdrawal of confidence from the Prime Minister by democratic means for violation of continuing with the Constitution and failing to Department of State “, stating that” the alternative would be a national figure from within the National Alliance. “
Damluji and called on citizens to “not to believe false rumors serve foreign agendas, including the existence of the secret side deals between Allawi and Maliki or waiver of any inch of the land of Iraq and the decline in the blocks and the national figures for the withdrawal of confidence.”
Damluji and accused some media of “the leadership of organized media campaign to spread the news and rumors untrue altogether designed to confuse citizens and the withholding of facts about them.”
Facing Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, claims of no confidence from him by a number of political blocs, most notably the Sadrists and the Iraqi List and the Kurdistan Alliance, while warns Congress of the State law, led by al-Maliki, the consequences of this step on the political process.
He denied President Jalal Talabani, Wednesday, to be behind the proposal to withdraw confidence from Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki also announced the Iraqi leader Iyad Allawi, saying that his statements “are confusing and surprising.”
And blocs agreed political opposition to the Prime Minister meeting, which met in Erbil, on June 10, to continue to mobilize the forces of parliamentary to address the “phenomenon of control and monopolize” the management of the government, while I decided to send a message illustrative to the President of the Republic is emphasized where the validity of signatures of the House and the adequacy of the required number constitutionally to withdraw confidence.
And accused the Iraqi List led by Iyad Allawi, in (June 11 present), President of the Republic to “repudiation” of the Constitution and the diversion of the names of 180 deputies signed the withdrawal of confidence from the Prime Minister to a coalition of state law, led, after he announced in (June 9 current) that his letter on the withdrawal of confidence from the al-Maliki did not report to the Parliament for lack of a quorum after the withdrawal of 11 deputies.
And threatened Iraq also resort with its partners to international forums to resolve the political crisis, two days after the announcement of the message sent by the cleric Moqtada al-Sadr in the (June 9 current) to the Secretary General of the United Nations through its representative in Iraq Martin Kobler demanding that play a role in the current crisis Iraq is going through, particularly in the area of partnership and the lack of uniqueness and the State Administration infringement of freedoms and actions taken in custody.
The country is witnessing a political crisis that some observers emphasize that it is on the rise in the unity of the differences between the political blocs, having transformed from a difference between the Iraqi List and the rule of law to the difference in the latter with the Kurdistan Alliance and the Sadr movement and other movements and parties.
http://bit.ly/Kw5EFF

Finance Committee Member: rising dinar as a result of Central Bank reserves, 14 JUNE


Finance Committee Member: rising dinar as a result of Central Bank reserves

Date: Thursday, 14-06-2012 11: 52 am
Baghdad (newsletter) … Financial Committee member explained Deputy//National Alliance, Abdul Hussein Al-yasseri, Iraqi dinar exchange rate against the US dollar of Central Bank reserves.\
He said Al-yasseri (News Agency news) on Thursday: improvement of the strength of the Iraqi economy and the Central Bank reserves and the presence of the private sector in private banks to raise exchange rate contributed to the dinar and the existence of the positive balance of payments shows some foreign countries ‘ exports of goods over imports of all of these factors lead to the lifting of the dinar exchange rate against the US dollar.
Al-yasseri referred to: “cash theory” which States the general acceptance of the currency and attracting force in all countries such as the US dollar which has acceptable around the world while it handles the Iraqi dinar only in Iraq, and continued: request if found, its price is determined dynamically through dynamic supply and demand if there is a rise in price of this cruise leads to greater currency bad domestic or foreign.
He added: the general orientation of the Central Bank (2003-2004) to purchase a Iraqi banknotes to reduce what is displayed in the Iraqi market and increases demand and pushing the dollar in the Central Bank auction and buy local Iraqi currency dollar and even determine price currency thousand six hundred dinars and then thousand dollar Bank continued to sell dollar foreign currency Iraqi dinar demand lifting of lack of presence in the market and reduced the price of the dollar is more than the Iraqi dinar.
And between Al-yasseri: that Iraq has oil revenues in dollar terms it can make thousand foreign BD $ and can withdraw the Iraqi currency and pump more dollars and reduce the width of the Iraqi currency, increase its value and all of these factors lead to higher Iraqi exchange rate against the US dollar.
http://bit.ly/KINNoB

POSTS FROM DINARLAND, 14 JUNE

Angel] it is a WONDERFUL day for an RV !

[daniandquin] MY FRIENDS, WHEN THE RV GOES LIVE YOU WILL KNOW WITHIN MINUTES, IF NOT SECONDS. OUR WONDERFUL INTEL GATHERERS WILL KNOW AND WILL BE HERE TO TELL US SO FAST THERE WILL BE A SONIC BOOM BEHIND THEM!!!! 

~PETERSMA] For those interested in The President's speech today while it will likely be broadcast very widely, here's a site that I know will be broadcasting it. http://www.barackobama.com/live It is scheduled for 1:45pm EST.

[dopeygrl] i have a quick question, been reading recaps and the question is about Oanda. Isn't forex always closed on sundays?

[paradisegirl] dopeygrl forex retail is closed until 5pm edt Sunday, but I think the institutional side is open 24/7

daniandquin] dopeygrl Oanda isn't forex- Oanda is a trading site, an d is ALWAYS open on the weekends for trade even when the forex is closed. but they are closing down this sunday....

[dopeygrl] OKMama but someone spoke to oanda and it said only sunday not from 6am today

 [OKMama] dopeygrl Really? Hmm... I took that post to me 6am today THRU Sunday. I guess I was wrong. Bummer!

[dsatmhk7] dopeygrl OKMama - I read that it was Vic406 that called them

dopeygrl] OKMama here it is [vic406] daniandquin I have just spoke witha very polite rep from Oanda they will be closed 6am sunday till 3pm so members can reduce there risk positions

[vic406] dsatmhk7 yep lol

[chillimac] i ask this question last nit to studley in q & a...never got an answer maybe you are someone else can answer ....Imagine 

 [.Imagine] chillimac what was your question?

[chillimac] if only codes are given at rv, how will we know what rate to negociate if we only get the rate when we go to wf

[OKMama] I'm still not sure about the whole "rate". How can we negoitate rates if we don't know what they will be beforehand. We do not have a WF here in Oklahoma so would have to travel to Texas. If we could cash out at BOA with a competitive rate that would be easier... Does this make sense?

 [chillimac] .Imagine who will say base rate

 [Angel] OKMama once you sign a disclosure, you will bargain

[.Imagine] chillimac will be public info at banks and currency exchange sites

 [chillimac] they said only codes

 [.Imagine] chillimac the codes apply to the group packages

 [OKMama] chillimac That's EXACTLY my question!! I don't want to be traveling back and forth between states trying to get the best rate.. I mean a 50 cent difference is HUGE!!

[sunshine] chillimac i beileve few minutes after the rv...WE will know the rate from dealers and cbi...from there..we should get better rate with wf...IF not..then do cash in with dealers...voila` rv now come on down now 

[elaine] sunshine .... The amount that they will be selling DINAR.... After the .... RV.... Will that be the same amount... That they will buy it back from us??

sunshine] elaine post rv...they will have the new rate...rv. rate...and also we can see it from CBI...and one more consideration...WF people..should offer more than thier competitors...in order to get us to cash in with them...

elaine] Angel ...... Praying u r RIGHT.... Regarding having time to bargain... With the BANK.... For a better RATE.... CLOCK... GOES..... TICK.... Tock 

[sunshine] again..people..Please remember..WE DON't have to use the bank codes..if we are NOT happy with that offer...

[sunshine] we must try our best..to get the best rate from your banks...they need us and our money too...any way mutual co operation for the best of all

[Angel] Listen, when you walk into a bank with potentially millions of dollars, they are going to WANT it to stay in THEIR bank, BARGAIN with them!

OKMama] dsatmhk7 Yes, I guess I don't need to get caught up in schematics. Let's just R/V and then we can worry about the rest! :)

[Angel] if you have a rate in mind, then ask for other things, no fees, a toaster, lol...whatever!

[prissynell] strange someone said earlier let someone go in in front of you and you can find out the rate but they will be under a ND

[sunshine] yes..we all are desperate for cash in as soon as possible...WHY NOT just cash in a 25 k or 50K...to pay off emergencies..and wait for few more days...

[prissynell] most of all I would say get your private bankers cell phone number

[heartfelt] prissynell it was stated you cannot share the rate only the code.

[prissynell] I know

[dsatmhk7] OKMama - I look at it this way; NO ONE knows the rates until it happens. At that point, I'm sure that the bank will tell me IF they want my business. Why sweat it until then??

Angel] thats where the disclosure comes in, they want you to promise NOT to give the rates out i believe

[bcrt1] I would be more excited if other forex "platforms" were closing too - still a potential great sign - others may not have announced yet

[rajuncajun] They do not want the rates out over the forums and published.

[prissynell] strange I had a private banker tell me if they paid out different rates they could get closed up

daniandquin] prissynell not true. the bank can negotiate any rate they want with a client.....

 [OKMama] rajuncajun I don't know if I could wait either. Yikes - I'm working on my patience as it is! lol

[sunshine] rajuncajun no problem...me too..if the rate is good for us...then cash in ALL...why wait for the risks..as we know..we are dealing with IRAQ !!!!

[vic406] bcrt1 remember that was not suppose to be public

[daniandquin] if the rate comes out at, say, $10 and the bank decides to pay you $20 for your currency...that's their choice!

[sunshine] daniandquin vic406 yes..this is a free market...we can deal and bargain to get the best of all...

 [prissynell] probably why a ND cause the banks dont even want the rates out to the public

 [highhopes] Maybe the non-disclosure is just stating that we agree not to post rate or details of the WF Exchange on any PUBLIC place??

daniandquin] highhopes exactly- and it's VERY serious!

[OKMama] somethings gotta give That's what hubby and I were talking about last night. I wonder how everyone will keep the rate to themselves... I'm certainly not going to post anywhere though!

[Angel] highhopes yes

[prissynell] daniandquin they can afford it since Treasury pays them back much more than that

[OKMama] We should at least know the base rate of the IQD and the VND though, right?

 [sunshine] OKMama YES...we are going to know the base rate jsut few minutes after the RV

[daniandquin] OKMama NO! the bank group code and rate and package MUST NOT BE MADE PUBLIC AND CAN NOT BE POSTED ON ANY CHAT OR FORUM OR WEBSITE

[sunshine] OKMama by the way...as soon as the RV happens...you can even google it...like IQD new rate...you will see ...a bunch of those

sunshine] daniandquin she means the base rate...not the codes

[daniandquin] OKMama oh sorry darlin- I misinterpreted your questions

tigerbobby] The Non Disclousure is simply that you keep the rate and the details of the bank package confidential

joannc1] smoothmoves good morning! I was wondering if you have the link to OANDAs statement about being closed Sunday due to the Greek Elections. TY

[smoothmoves] Joannc1, Good Morning ! Just go to www.oanda.com

[joannc1] smoothmoves I did, and I couldnt find it anywhere. Where should I be looking? Thanks sweetie

joannc1] Well, I searched all over OANDAs site and cannot find anything that says Greek elections are the reason they're closed Sunday from 6am to 3pm..Vic406 posted at intel4u that he spoke with OANDA directly this morning and there was no mention of Greek elections...hmm

 [smoothmoves] Try www.marketwatch.com

[joannc1]  I can find nothing that says the OANDA closing is related to Greece elections. I would imagine that if that were true, they would have included that info in their original post, or at least somewhere on their site. 

 [CajunBelle] joannc1 - Where did the Greece rumor come from? 

[joannc1] JstBringIt I have that!! Thank you. Sounds like RV to me. I was trying to confirm smoothmoves opinion that it's related to Greece elections. I didn't see anything that confirms that. 

[joannc1] CajunBelle smoothmoves posted it...so I was trying to confirm it.

.ladybug65] .Imagine ~ Do you think people who aren't invested will understand about the realignment of currencies and that some people just got filthy rich??

 [vic406] today is new Iraq holliday

[book2] Angel Could you please explain the implications of the various components of the HCL law on the revaluation?

[Pixie] wvic406 sorry what are they calling the holiday and what is the holiday about?

[vic406] Pixie dont know never got that

 [daniandquin] vic406 hmmmm wonder what the holiday is for?

 [vic406] Pixie i wonder if this was like when Shabs said the Rv day would be there national holliday?

 [OKMama] vic406 I saw that too. Makes you wonder if this a CELEBRATION holiday...

 [vic406] OKMama exactly hhmm 

[Remi8] vic406 Sure raises a few questions!!!! :)

Mama] vic406 There is just too much good info out there for this thing to not be THIS CLOSE! 

 [vic406] OKMama agreed

[Pixie] vic406 well day is still early...

[Remi8] OKMama I agree too ---

[ZTenor] And I really don't feel that our rate will be tied to Iraq's rate IMO.....since our Gov't will be exchanging our Dinar for oil.....kinda leaves it open to a high rate...again IMO. No matter how high the rate will be the US Gov't will always make money on oil....so they can't lose