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Tuesday, June 12, 2012

BLAINO POST UPDATE, 12 JUNE

6-12-2012 Blaino: According to 3 confirmed Dinarians, some large IQD holders "MAY" be getting some signals regarding "CASHING OUT" AHHHH. LET ME TYPE THOSE GOLDEN WORDS ONE MORE TIME. "CASHING OUT!" Feels good just to type it out. WOOHOO-BAY_BEEEEE! Got some intel from my "Whale Watcher" earlier today: Seems like out 'turn' is in the works for the next few days. IF, That's IF all works out! He/She/They are even now awaiting a call regarding 'departure!' Said the "Whales" ought to be done cashing in today and/or tomorrow and then "WE" get our turn at bat! (SWING BATTER, SWING!) He/She/They doubt we will see much before Thursday maybe Friday. So, using our judgement and common sense, we should be done by mid week next week. Maybe!!

BELLAGRITS CHAT, 12 JUNE


[BellaGrits] HEY ALL!!!! HOPE YOUR DAY WASN'T NEAR AS FRUSTRATING AS MINE.....OMW!!! TALK ABOUT MASS CONFUSION.... I DON'T DRINK, BUT IF I DID, I'D BE IN RARE FORM RIGHT NOW!!!! LOL ANYWAY....YOU KNOW HOW THEY LOVE TO CONFUSE THE INTEL PROVIDERS.....THEY GET THE GOLD MEDAL TODAY!!! I AM NOT TOO PROUD TO ADMIT IT!

[wango1] BellaGrits Is this the dead silence before the storm?
[BellaGrits] wango1 SOME SMALL THINGS HAD TO BE DEALT WITH ...AND THEY WERE...AS YOU KNOW, I WILL BE NON-SPECIFIC....BUT I AM TELLING YOU, IT TOOK ME A LONG TIME TO TRACK THE REAL TRUTH DOWN...I HAVE A GREAT GROUP OF PPL AND I HAD JONNYWG EVEN JUMP IN FOR A FEW CALLS....HE SAYS HELLO TO YOU ALL TOO. ANYWAY, WE ARE BACK ON TRACK....THINGS ARE MOVING ALONG VERY NICELY, AND WE ARE JUST WAITING "PATIENTLY" SINCE I AM TOO TIRED TO NOT BE PATIENT.....RIGHT? I KNOW YOU ALL ARE AS WELL...ONCE AGAIN I COMMEND YOU FOR BEING SUCH A GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE....HONESTLY, I DUNNO HOW YOU GUYS DO IT....

[BellaGrits] GLAD ANGELQUEST CAME BY FOR A VISIT!!! SHE IS A GREAT PERSON--HOPE YOU AL GAVE HER YOUR FULL ATTENTION!!!!

[BellaGrits] OKAY, I DO WANT TO ADDRESS ONE ISSUE THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION....

[BellaGrits] I GOT A LOTTTA HELP FROM MY FRIENDS...GREAT FRIENDS....HONESTLY, WHAT GREAT SUPPORT....ANYWAY, LET ME SETTLE SOME THINGS REGARDING THE BANK ORDEAL...OKAY?

[BellaGrits] I GOT A CALL THAT IT WAS REPORTED YOU MUST HAVE YOUR COMPLETE NAME ON YOUR KCGROUP CASHOUT CODE WHEN YOU EMAILED IT IN???? IT MUST MATCH YOUR DL OR PASSPORT....THERE IS ABSOLUTLELY 100% NO TRUTH TO THAT IN THE LEAST....I CALLED STUDLEY AND I CHECKED THIS OUT WITH JONNYWG....BOTH OF WHOM TOLD ME THAT WAS COMPLETE NONSENSE....ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS EMAIL TO THE INTEL4U.COM SITE...NOTHING MORE....WE EVEN CHECKED WITH THE BANK....STUDLEY AND JONNY WANTED ME TO MENTION THEY ARE BACKING ME 100% ON THIS STATEMENT.

[top_gun] BellaGrits generals64 said that

[BellaGrits] top_gun WELL, I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING OUT ANY NAMES, BUT HEY, I GOT YA STRAIGHT NOW...

[Serendipity] BellaGrits On recaps

[BellaGrits] Serendipity I HEARD IT WAS ON RECAPS...

[.ladybug65] BellaGrits~ thank you! How's Jonny?

 [BellaGrits] .ladybug65 JONNY IS DOING SUPER

[Serendipity] BellaGrits Yes. I think that the original plans and new plans might be mixed up. Thanks for clearing it up.

[BellaGrits] Serendipity I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THAT CAME FROM BUT HE HAS REFERENCED STUDLEY....MANY TIMES....AND I WENT STRAIGHT TO STUDLEY TO MAKE SURE WE WERE DOING THIS BY THE BOOK....STUDLEY OFFERED TO COME IN HERE...I TOLD HIM I COULD DO THIS....BUT THANKS FOR ASSISTING IN CLEARING THIS UP, AND THANKS TO JONNYWG.

[badgerbill] BellaGrits Hey Bella....ra really think we are good???? Because things are really getting tough..if ya know what i mean!!

[BellaGrits] badgerbill I KNOW WHATCHA' MEAN....YES, I DO THINK THINGS ARE LOOKING GOOD...AND YOU ALL KNOW IF I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT .... I'D NEVER TYPE IT TO YOU..

[wvlady] What General said did not make sense ..... after all we were told we could inform family and friends the code ..... how could that be if they had to be registered with their real names..... DUH...to general

[BellaGrits] wvlady NO, IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE.....I COULD SAY MORE, BUT I WILL REFRAIN....IT JUST ISN'T IN MY CHARACTER TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD....AND WHAT A SHAME I HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE INTEL PROVIDERS GO AFTER THE OTHERS...I DON'T GET IT....WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER-- SO I THOUGHT.....IT IS DISHEARTENING TO SAY THE LEAST.

[mstxstar] BellaGrits BellaGrits is it still true that we can pass the code on to people who might not be on the list or no?

[BellaGrits] mstxstar YES, YOU CAN.....JUST KNOW YOU CAN NEVER POST IT ANYWHERE, OKAY?

[berberboy] BellaGrits how long can things go like this before we figure someone is pulling our leg?, i mean for months now we are being told any minute.

[BellaGrits] berberboy I SEE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL??

[loumat] BellaGrits we all appreciate you comin in here and settin the record straight.....we get worried in here and rumors spread like wildfire in Colorado..(.pray for those folks)

[BellaGrits] loumat WILL DO...I AM SORRY YOU WERE MISINFORMED

[justaguy] BellaGrits I'm assuming that we won't know the rate until we get to the bank???

[BellaGrits] justaguy YOU GOT THAT RIGHT....NO IDEA...BANK ON $4 PLUS AND BE HAPPY...I KNOW I WILL FOR SURE...YES, THAT IS A STANDARD JONNYWG ANSWER....

[loumat] BellaGrits how could you NOT be..I spoke with some of the others in the family..lots of time spent on the phone trying to get us the straight scoop..We all are indebted to you!!!!

[BellaGrits] loumat I ADMIT I CALLED SOME OF MY FAMILY TOO, THEN I THOUGHT THIS IS CRAZY....NO WAY.... WE DON'T NEED YOUR PERSONAL INFORMATION.....YOU NEED TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF AT THE BANK .... THAT'S IT....HAVE YOUR CODE

[BellaGrits] YOU ALL HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH MORE THAN YOU REALIZE...THINK OF ALL THE DEGREES YOU NOW HAVE? WE EVEN TALKED ABOUT THEM...IRAQIOLOGY, RVOLOGY, DINAROLOGY, BANKOLOGY, C'MON....GIVE YOURSELVES SOME CREDIT!

[elaine] BellaGrits ..... I thought we didn't need to negotiate with studley/the generals .... Group

[BellaGrits] elaine YOU CAN ALWAYS TRY FOR MORE WHEREVER YOU WANT TO GO...USE THE PACKET AS LEVERAGE...IT'S YOUR CHOICE, IT'S YOUR MONEY

[mamari4] BellaGrits yes you forgot CHATOLOGY and FORUMOLOGY and RECAPSOLOGY too!!! roflmao

[BellaGrits] mamari4 YEPPERS I GUESS I NEED TO READ RECAPS ON MY OFF TIME......LIKE I HAVE OFF TIME...LOL

[BellaGrits] OKAY YOU WONDERFUL PEOPLE....HAVE A BLESSED NIGHT...MAY GOD GRANT YOU PEACE....MAY YOU HAVE A GOOD SLEEP....I AM FLAT UP TIRED...I EXPECT TO SLEEP LIKE A BABY!!!! WHATTA DAY...EVER HAD A WHATTA DAY?

[BellaGrits] GOODNIGHT ALL

RAY & STEVE POST, 12 JUNE


(RAY) desertdog, on 12 June 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

I just want to start off by saying that there are some interesting comments on this thread which is someone else's Theory & Rumor from another site. And that is all it is. Nothing more. Steve started this site to provide information about the Iraqi dinar. Neither Steve nor I have ever put any information on here to "pump" the dinar.

This site is strictly informational only. If there are people on here that truly feel the dinar is a scam and will never RV or RD, I would suggest leaving and go about your life and forget the dinar ever existed. As for Steve and I, we both truly believe there will be an RV and it will be very soon.

 Shabibi has personally said this several times in public. A man of his character would not make these claims if they weren't true. I know a lot about what is going on over there and all the preparations being made to RV the currency. The Iraqi people are being told daily what to do when it revalues and that they will be very happy because the dinar will be the strongest currency in the region. 
Does that sound like a LOP? Merchants and money exchangers are smuggling the dinar out of Iraq daily because they know it will be worth more out of country than in country. Saleh is on TV now telling the people how the prices in country will be adjusted to reflect the new dinar value when it revalues.

The new currency has been printed and shipped to all the major banks in Iraq and is awaiting for the revalue to happen to begin exchanging the new for the old. There is a lot more happening which tells me there is going to be an RV very soon and there will be many instant millionaires in this country and else where. I just want to encourage everyone to stay positive and hang on to your dinar because you too will be very happy soon.
Blessings,
Ray

SteveI: Great words of wisdom. Thank you for sharing again the facts about this investment. I have been watching this post and was about to close it, but there are many great comments here. I just elected not to debate or explain again something like the "LOP" that will never happen (in this case that is).

Like you said, between your contacts and my partner and his contacts, yes this not a good investment, it is a great one. It will not take all that much longer to get the political wrangling resolved, then the rest will fall into place. There are many things going on that we have simply not shared do to my involvement.

Yes, there have been a few brief moments I have considered bailing from this investment, but when I take and add up everything we know to be a fact and not fiction, it renewed my confidence in marching forward and being strong and positive. I took many years for all of this to happen and it will not be done overnight, however, we are close to the end of this ride.

Keep your head high and your hopes even higher. Remember, Wisdom is understanding what's really important!

Blessings,Steve 

Embattled Iraqi PM holding on to power for now, 12 JUNE


Embattled Iraqi PM holding on to power for now

BAGHDAD — Iraq's embattled prime minister has fought off an attempt to push him out of office, aided by divisions among his opponents and Iranian intervention on his behalf.

Nouri al-Maliki's tactical victory averts a potentially destabilizing contest to replace him, at least for the time being, but perpetuates the sectarian-based deadlock that has paralyzed the country for years.

In the latest setback for those trying to unseat al-Maliki, the country's president said Sunday he would not ratify a petition for a no-confidence vote because it lacked the needed number of signatures.

An Iraqi lawmaker who supports the prime minister says Iran is helping him by trying to buy time. Tehran is pushing for a two-month grace period during which al-Maliki, who has close ties with the Islamic Republic, would ostensibly try to appease coalition partners who accuse him of monopolizing power.

At the root of the standoff is the unresolved power struggle between Iraq's three main groups — the majority Shiites and minority Sunnis and Kurds — following the ouster of Saddam Hussein in the U.S.-led invasion of 2003.
Elections in March 2010 were inconclusive. Al-Maliki was able to form a national unity government but its component parties do not trust and in some cases detest each other.

The continued impasse has raised the possibility of renewed sectarian violence and hampered plans for rebuilding the country ravaged by a decade of fighting.

Six months after the departure of the last U.S. forces, hopes seem to be fading that oil-rich Iraq can quickly transform into a functioning democracy.

"It's a sensitive and tense situation and anything could go wrong," analyst Joost Hiltermann of the International Crisis Group said of the ongoing political crisis.

Al-Maliki, a Shiite, is under fire for breaking promises to share power with his partners in a unity government that includes the Sunni-dominated Iraqiya bloc, Kurdish parties and loyalists of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

Sunnis who believe he is targeting their leaders with politically motivated prosecutions and Kurds who think he is hostile to their northern autonomy have their own reason to dislike the prime minister.

Al-Maliki's erstwhile partners have been pushing to unseat him with a no-confidence vote in the 325-member parliament, but appear to be struggling to muster the required 164 votes.

Last week, they said they sent a petition for a no-confidence vote with 176 signatures of lawmakers to President Jalal Talabani — a Kurd with ties to Iran who is apparently reluctant to see al-Maliki replaced. On Sunday, Talabani said the petition only had 160 valid signatures, falling short by four. He said 13 lawmakers told him they were withdrawing or suspending their signatures.
The rebels in al-Maliki's coalition can also force a no-confidence vote without Talabani's help, but it's a longer, more cumbersome process.

After Talabani's ruling, al-Maliki called for more talks to resolve the coalition crisis.

Al-Maliki's main foreign backer, Shiite-ruled Iran, is also trying to keep him in power, according to several Shiite politicians who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of those efforts. Al-Maliki is a key guarantor of Tehran's influence in Iraq and forged close ties with Iran's leaders during two decades in exile there in the Saddam era.

The push to unseat al-Maliki hinges on al-Sadr, whose loyalists have 40 seats in parliament. The mercurial young cleric has a long history of conflict with al-Maliki, but is also particularly vulnerable to Iranian pressure.

Sadr bolted the Shiite political camp several weeks ago to side with Iraqiya and the Kurds. Shortly after that, he was summoned to Tehran, where he was asked to give al-Maliki two more months to work out his coalition problems, according to Shiite lawmaker Humam al-Hamoudi, an al-Maliki supporter.

To add to the pressure, al-Sadr's Iranian-based spiritual leader issued a religious edict that would rule out having al-Sadr side with Sunnis and Kurds.

Al-Sadr's response to the pressure remains unclear.

Al-Hamoudi said he expects al-Sadr will eventually return to the Shiite fold, for fear of losing support among his constituents.

Before departing for Tehran, al-Sadr tried to unify the ranks, asking senior members of his movement and the Mahdi Army militia to sign a loyalty oath to him with a fingerprint dipped in blood, said a senior militia commander, Abu Ali Rubai.

Meanwhile, the push against al-Maliki is likely to continue.
The coalition rebels said in a statement they would "continue to mobilize lawmakers," while al-Hamoudi suggested that a lack of trust will make it hard to solve the coalition's problems.

"The problem is that al-Maliki has signed so many signatures before, but the level of commitment will only be seen in the future," al-Hamoudi said, hinting at broken pledges of the past.

In the original coalition deal, reached after nine months of political wrangling following the 2010 election, al-Maliki made sweeping concessions in a bid to form a government. "What he signed up to was very theoretical and not achievable," said Reidar Visser, a Norway-based analyst who writes for the blog historiae.org.

Among other things, al-Maliki promised to set up a body that would have final say on legislation and be headed by the leader of Iraqiya, but later reneged. Al-Maliki also failed to appoint defense and interior ministers, jobs he kept for himself as he tightened control over the security forces.

The deadlock has meant parliament is not passing important bills — key among them those that regulate oil revenue-sharing.

The uncertainty has fed a number of Iraq's ongoing crises, such as the conflict between the autonomous Kurdistan region in the north and the central government in Baghdad over the oil rights.

Hiltermann said Iraq's lack of effective government has been cushioned by its oil riches — an income tens of billions of dollars a year.

He said he expects Iraq to muddle through as long as oil keeps flowing. "It's not a good situation for Iraq," he said. "Just more of the same."

TIDBITS FROM MIG , 12 JUNE


8:08 PM [Precious] Hammerman:;;6-12 -2012 ,,,early evening,,,,,,are yall ready to end this ride ,,,,, wooo holly ca ca poo info is still smoking good ,,,,, imo some upper class in iraq are using smart cards ,,, paris club still there ,,, china uda an japan delayed everything ,,weather slowed three filghts into iraq ,,but they are there ,

,i belive ,anouncments within 48 hours if intel is true ,,,,, we should hear of it in iraq ,,,, then hours later here then days later we get to the bank ,,,, my best intel just told me should be wealthy by the june 27th ,,all we can do is sit back hope an wait ,,,,,

intel says meeting on the 15th [un ] wont speed this up ,,not a concern for iraq ,,,, whales with over 50bil have gotten money ,,,,, whales withover 500mil starting within a hour ,do not ask rates are details ,,wont share ,,, just be glad i hearing what i am 
if yall watch fox news there is alot of money talk the last few days ,,,,an where the hell are these broke states getting money to back bonds they are selling ,,hhmmmmmm ,, could it be whale money ,,hmmmm mite be ,,,,, all is still good an all is positive ,,,,, im happpppppyyy ,,,, live ,,,love ,,,an learn

8:19 PM [Precious] tommyk: 6-12-2012 SWFloridaGuy lets hope a deal has already been struck. The last statement released said Maliki has now agreed to most of the points regarding Erbil, ministers etc. Lets hope that statement is true.

if it is, then we will see formal public announcements of power sharing and we can turn our focus back to the CBI and their currency reform project. I’m disappointed Talabani seems to be backing Maliki but if they can reach an agreement (a real one) then maybe that’s the quickest, most painless solution anyway.

Given Maliki’s history though, it’s very hard to trust him.

6-12-2012 BGG We are on schedule, on track, going in the right direction. Let's be cautious...let's give the process time to work out.

6-12-2012 Med NOW THIS JUNE 15TH MEETING WITH THE UNSC IS ALWAYS MISINTERPRETED AS A CHAPTER VII MEETING, IT IS

8:21 PM [Precious] [angelquest] alllllll but RELEASE................ALL just waiting on the dead beats to give it up 

[Precious] [angelquest] guys there is no reason to keep asking for a DATE......ALL in intel dont know EITHER........THE people that will pull the trigger are waiting TOO............THIS is to go down with no one knowing ahead of TIME..........NO one person has all the specific for reason

  Precious] triggers51: i do not speak but about 20 arabic ,,words ,,,,, an yes im in contact with 10 are so whales that have cashed out ,,,comfirming all morning..

[Paladin] [Maryrose] wheezer2 today on CNN they talked about a global currency revaluing this Thurs

[Precious] triggers51: shar35--I always like to explain it this way. Over the years, I have won about $20M. But I have lost about $20M $300K. So there you go--in the hole!!!

hammerman: gambler1 yes ,,,, 2.72 is what i am being told ,,,not the offical rate just what is on the cards for every day iraq peeps ,,,,, gov an military will get more i being told

[Precious] triggers51: plan2stand: Just got word from my guy. He is very excited. Says the whales will be done cashing in today and tomorrow and then we are next. He doubts we will see anything by tomorrow but could be. More likely Thursday or Friday. If something happens to slow it down again, we should be done by mid week next week. Pretty much what hammer said. I'm pumped.

8:02 PM [Precious] Gold to be Declared Tier 1 Asset Under New Basel III Rules The new Basel III rules are set to make gold a Tier 1 asset for commercial banks- compared to the Tier 3 ranking it holds currently. This means PHYSICAL gold will count as capital the same as a treasury bond.

Demand for physical metal will increase substantially from this ruling, but you won’t hear it mentioned on CNBC. The big new thing in gold – capital adequacy ratios Ross Norman looks at the implications for gold of an increased focus on the assets banks are allowed to hold as tier one capital.LONDON (SHARPS PIXLEY) –

 Forgive the hyperbole in the headline but we wanted to get your attention as something quite profound is happening that could propel gold to record new highs. Yes, potentially the biggest thing since the birth of the gold ETF and the liberalization of the Chinese gold market in 2003. A decade on and we have grounds for saying that gold may well see a significant leg higher… the big new thing in gold. I’ll explain…

8:04 PM [Precious] In short, they are meeting to consider making gold a Tier 1 asset for commercial banks with 100% weighting rather than a Tier 3 asset with just a 50% risk weighting as it does today. At the same time they are set to increase the amount of capital banks must set aside as well. A double win potentially.

Hitherto banks have been much dis-incentivised to hold gold while being encouraged to hold arguably riskier assets such as equity capital, currencies and debt instruments, none of which have fared too well in the crisis.

 With this potential change in capital adequacy requirements. Bank purchases of gold would drive up its value relative to other high quality qualifying assets, increasing its desirability for regulatory purposes further. This should result in gold being re-priced to bring it on a par with all other high quality assets.

8:05 PM [Precious] This is a treble win for gold – it would be a major endorsement of its role in preserving wealth and as a store of value from the highest financial authority, it would lead to significant purchases of gold by major financial institutions and it would lead to a reappraisal of its value with respect to other Tier 1 capital such as quality sovereign debt. Under the new rules gold could become a very significantly larger proportion of a reserve pool which is about to grow very much larger.

8:07 PM [Precious] Canadians made up the largest share of purchasers, accounting for 24 percent of all international sales. That compared with 23 per cent in 2011 and 11 per cent in 2007. Chinese buyers made up the next largest segment at 11 percent, followed by Mexicans at 8 percent.

 While sales to foreigners make up only about 10 percent of all U.S. home sales, they are among the fastest-growing segments of the market. International sales climbed 24 percent last year, according to the survey. People from Canada and elsewhere are being lured by rock-bottom prices, a massive supply of foreclosed properties and record-low interest rates.

ANGELQUEST CHAT, 12 JUNE


[ANGELQUEST] xyz ALLLLLLL BUT RELEASE................ALL JUST WAITING ON THE DEAD BEATS TO GIVE IT UP LOL.

[ANGELQUEST] chillimac MONEY TALKS , DEAD BEATS ARE FIGURING THAT OUT BUT NOT REAL SMART..... LOL

[Bluestar101] ANGELQUEST Hi there ANGELQUEST:)! So it is true there are still peace negotiations going on with the dead beats?

[ANGELQUEST] Bluestar101 WELL I HATE TO SAY YES BUT IN SOME CASES YES

[Dreamer] ANGELQUEST It seems The Dead Beats have the money, power and control to do whatever they want.

[ANGELQUEST] Dreamer WELL NOT REALLY ANYMORE.............THE BANKS DONT KNOW THEIR BOSSES ARE CHANGING....LOL LET THEM PLAY KING A FEW MORE HOURS..... LOL

[ANGELQUEST] .ladybug65 15TH IS MY OUTSIDE DATE..........
[chillimac] ANGELQUEST if he gives his speach on thurs, then we need to do this tonite ,,,,, calls tomorrow.....o spech thur

[ANGELQUEST] chillimac NO WILL BE IN SYNC I AM SURE

[wheezer2] ANGELQUEST good evening, unfortunately, i have not followed you enough to know who you are referring to as the dead beats. would you kindly explain for us UNelightened ones :)

[ANGELQUEST] wheezer2 PTB............POWER THAT BE......... AUTHORS OF THE PLAN........MANY NAMES

[raptor22] Angelquest does that mean super really close and why do u feel 15th

[ANGELQUEST] raptor22 raptor22 BECAUSE I AM TIRED AS ALL OF YOU FOR WAITING? NO I CAN NOT ELABORATE TOO MUCH TO TELL ABOUT 15TH

[booyah] ANGELQUEST ANGELQUEST hi love just got here ... do we have to wait till the 15th?!!??

[ANGELQUEST] booyah HELL I HOPE NOT......... SORRY BUT NO IT CAN POP ANYTIME....I KNOW WE SAY THIS ALOT BUT IT IS TRUE

[wheezer2] ANGELQUEST Please do not misunderstand me as i mean NO DISRESPECT, but do you think by making the statement you are expecting this by the 15 th that that could jeopordize the release as some as have indicated in the past.

[ANGELQUEST] wheezer2 NO IT IS ALL OVER THE INTERNET ALREADY........... LOL

[TIME4RVNOW] ANGELQUEST ANGELQUEST in simple words...where r we??? .... Pardon me.I don't understang the hint language.... I would apprechiate a strait shooter answer... in simple words for 1/2 dumb blond lol lol

[ANGELQUEST] TIME4RVNOW WE ARE HERE AT THE MOMENT IN TIME OF NO RETURN

Maryrose] wheezer2 today on CNN they talked about a global currency revaluing this Thurs!!

[ANGELQUEST] Maryrose YES I KNOW TRUSTED PERSONS THAT SAW IT

[booyah] ANGELQUEST ANGELQUEST thanks, sure hope you are right as the 15th means another weekend of torture!

[ANGELQUEST] wheezer2 MANY PERSONS HAVE SAID THIS WEEK BECAUSE OF THE RELEASE OF CHAPTER 7 BUT THAT I NOT THE REASON....LOOK AT WORLD MARKETS....

[ANGELQUEST] GUYS THERE IS NO REASON TO KEEP ASKING FOR A DATE......ALL IN INTEL DONT KNOW EITHER........THE PEOPLE THAT WILL PULL THE TRIGGER ARE WAITING TOO............THIS IS TO GO DOWN WITH NO ONE KNOWING AHEAD OF TIME..........NO ONE PERSON HAS ALL THE SPECIFIC FOR REASON

[ANGELQUEST] geterdone HANG IN THERE............IT IS TRULY COMING WE JUST DONT KNOW EXACT JUST FITTING THE PUZZLE

[cheeny] ANGELQUEST ..Are there any worries or things we should know about putting our money in the banks? Thanks.

[ANGELQUEST] cheeny COULD BE..............EVERYONE NEEDS TO TAKE ACTION AND READ WHAT CAN HAPPEN.......JUST TYPE IN MONEY SECURITY AND READ MORE THAN A FEW PLACES........THEN COME BACK WITH QUESTIONS I CAN NOT ELABORATE HERE IT WILL TAKE TO LONG.......... SORRY

[geterdone] ANGELQUEST With everything in the news about the pending derivitive issue, I am wondering about all the big 4 even WF. I thought WF was the clearing bank now and not Bank of America.... so confused....

[ANGELQUEST] geterdone i am not sure of that because the whole monetary system is changing

[geterdone] ANGELQUEST IYO - does it appear that our banks will be down at the same time this goes? We talked about situations around the country were people were working on sorting out all of the foreclosure mess, is that still going to happen?

[ANGELQUEST] geterdone yes they are now

[justbelieve7] ANGELQUEST Thank you for coming in...been wondering what you thought since you didn't think this would go into June and here we are! :)

[ANGELQUEST] justbelieve7 justbelieve7 no one thought we would see june..........crap happens......

[geterdone] ANGELQUEST are you going to be around post RV to help us understand what is going on and what to expect?

 [ANGELQUEST] geterdone yes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[geterdone] ANGELQUEST I want you to know that I truely appreciate you and the time that you take to help us. You have always helped me understand things that I probably would not have otherwise..... Thank you..... Do you know Rich Queen and has she been around?

[ANGELQUEST] geterdone yes i do know here and she is around just most of us are keeping low for the time being

[Maryrose] ANGELQUEST since we don't know the rate therefore the amt we will have I have a plan to deposit one dinar into a non interest bearing acct. Go to my attorney, draw up trusts, go back to the bank. Open two more accts in the trusts names and exchange the remainder. Sound like a plan??

[ANGELQUEST] Maryrose yes dear sounds like a good plan

[fawkesfire] ANGELQUEST it seems to me that although it would have been nice to rv last year...we really weren't ready. Seems now with that we will be able to reap a much better harvest for waiting...your thoughts?

 [ANGELQUEST] fawkesfire well that would be common sense and i do beleive we will but we must remember all currencies will change to worth of their country.............so we win either way................

[geterdone] Well heck everyone kept saying that they did not want anyone to know when it would happen and I think they covered that. They have me very confused......... :superlachen:

 [ANGELQUEST] geterdone yes there game is confusion and we are "a ball of confusion.... lol

[sherry ann] angelquest is their any updates you can share please?

[ANGELQUEST] sherry ann actually no not at this time.............remember two things........when this is ready there will be misinfo out the yahoo............then following it is quiet..........we are there now

[ANGELQUEST] justbelieve7 no someone just asked an outside date i feel it is the 15th

[chillimac] ANGELQUEST an the count down begins

[ANGELQUEST] chillimac begins? still continues lol

[sherry ann] angelquest is their any updates you can share please?

[ANGELQUEST] sherry ann actually no not at this time.............remember two things........when this is ready there will be misinfo out the yahoo............then following it is quiet..........we are there now

[ANGELQUEST] sherry ann yes no intel coming in for the most part

[youneverknow] My husband doesnt believe to that the articles from I raq stating that they will raise the value are real, he doesn't beleive in anything good about the RV anymore, I don't know what to do anything I can say to convince him again, he used to believe

[ANGELQUEST] youneverknow give it to God...........some people just get in those hangups so appease him and you will see he will be a new man..........but it is tiring and I and others in the intel for years get that way but we have to keep the faith and we just study all angles i think i know more in history than i ever learned in 12 years of school and 3 of college... lol

[debneureka] I am hosting a huge family reunion on the 4th of july...an RV would really make it special! Tyvm AQ...love ya lots!

[ANGELQUEST] debneureka love you too it will be a 4th to remember i am hearing

[pulaski] ANGELQUEST and not the type of history read about after the fact but while it is being made lol

[ANGELQUEST] pulaski indeed my friend indeed........but i have learned much that was hidden

[1biz4u] ANGELQUEST does this timing need a new battery? LOL

[ANGELQUEST] 1biz4u i think it just needs a new timing belt.......... rofl

[oucrazy] ANGELQUEST . . . GE. . . I plan to cash in one or two notes. Do you think I would have to have an appointment to do that? Thnx

[ANGELQUEST] oucrazy oucrazy hey there................... yes so i am hearing yes

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 12 JUNE


6-12-2012  Intel Guru Hammerman  info is still smoking good...imo some upper class in iraq are using smart cards...i belive announcements within 48 hours if intel is true...we should here of it in iraq...then hours later here, then days later we get to the bank...my best intel just told me should be wealthy by the june 27th...all we can do is sit back hope an wait.   intel says meeting on the 15th [un] wont speed this up, not a concern for iraq...whales with over 50bil have gotten money...whales withover 500mil starting within a hour...all is still good, and all is positive.

6-12-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru SWFloridaGuy    lets hope a deal has already been struck. The last statement released said Maliki has now agreed to most of the points regarding Erbil, ministers etc. Lets hope that statement is true. If it is, then we will see formal public announcements of power sharing and we can turn our focus back to the CBI and their currency reform project.  I’m disappointed Talabani seems to be backing Maliki but if they can reach an agreement (a real one) then maybe that’s the quickest, most painless solution anyway. Given Maliki’s history though, it’s very hard to trust him.

6-12-2012  Newshound Guru BGG  We are on schedule, on track, going in the right direction.  Let's be cautious...let's give the process time to work out.

*****Poppy3 Update - Prayer are being requested for Poppy3 - he has internal bleeding and one of the ribs has punctured a lung.*****

6-12-2012  Newshound Guru Med  NOW THIS JUNE 15TH MEETING WITH THE UNSC IS ALWAYS MISINTERPRETED AS A CHAPTER VII MEETING, IT IS NOT.  THIS IS THE ANNUAL UNAMI REPORT, READ AND DISCUSSED.  IT ALSO IS THE TIME THEY RECOMMEND TO CONTINUE OR NOT.   FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW WHAT THE UNAMI IS,  IT IS THE UNITED NATIONS ASSISTANCE MISSION IRAQ.  THEY PROVIDE GUIDANCE AND ASSISTANCE TO IRAQI'S AND TRY TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE BY WORKING WITH THE IRAQI GOVT.

6-12-2012  Intel Guru Cap1     ALL IS LOOKING SO VERY GOOD RIGHT NOW.   IF THERE WAS ANYTHING THAT WOULD SHED A NEGATIVE LIGHT ON THIS ADVENTURE, I WOULD LET YOU KNOW.  MANY THINGS HAD TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BEHIND THE SCENES AS THIS IS AN EVER GROWING PROJECT OF GARGANTUAN PROPORTIONS. THE WHOLE RV/GLOBAL RESET HAS TAKEN ON A LIFE OF ITS OWN.  WE'RE IN THE HOME STRETCH.

6-12-2012  Intel Guru TerryK   I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE HAD A CHANCE, A STRONG CHANCE LAST NIGHT TO RV.  THERE WAS ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO REMOVE M FROM POWER YESTERDAY AND THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH VOTES TO DO SO.  NOW THERE ARE THREATS JUST TO REMOVE HIM FROM POWER.  I PRAY THIS IS DONE PRIOR TO THE 15TH.  I DO KNOW TODAY THERE ARE TALKS GOING ON...IF THEY DONT REMOVE HIM, I THINK THIS WILL PUSH TO SEPT 1.

6-12-2012  Newshound Guru Med    I THINK THAT IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE TARIFFS WILL FORCE AN DRAMATIC MOVE BY CBI ON THE RATE OF EXCHANGE INFLATION IS HOVERING AROUND THAT AREA WHERE IT COULD REDLINE IN A MATTER OF A FEW DAYS TO A FEW WKS AND AT THAT MOMENT SHABIBI SAID HE WILL NOT HESITATE AND I BELIEVE HIM HE IS A MAN OF FEW WORDS BUT WHEN HE DOES SPEAK IT USUALLY MEANS SOMETHING. WE KNOW HIS GOAL IS WHAT WHAT DID HE SAY HE WANTED THE DINAR TO BE AT IN SEPTEMBER OF 2011, ONE TO ONE WITH THE USD.  THIS IS FACT AND IS THE ONLY TIME HE CAME OUT WITH ANY VALUE.

6-12-12  Intel Guru Footforward   The Dinar and the Dong are to go at the same time.  It can happen at any time.

6-12-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   You just don't get how bad off Maliki really is right now. There is consideration in his own party of either an attempted military take-over or having Maliki resign and someone from the Dawa internal party take-over. It's really bad for him.  It might have been easier if Maliki or Talibani or anyone would have stood up and done the right thing.  If they don't move on Maliki in the Parliament in the next 7-10 days I will be shocked!!

6-12-2012  Intel Guru FreewayBill    [Freeway Bill from 6-9-12: Another day, another 85 cents.]  The corrected extra rate accumulating for Dinar Holders for each day delayed is .085 not .85.   My bad...085 per day was what I was told...sorry for the misunderstanding. From my understanding, there was a "penalty" put on to cover what this has costs all of the banks involved and countries involved while they have been made to stand ready and it costs them money and lots of it.  I know for a fact that there will be a "country" rate which will be much higher than the coded rate which will be higher than the bank rate.  The country code is increasing daily to pay some of these losses back to countries, who for their part have been ready and are suffering because of the delays.  From what I understand, this penalty phase started a few weeks ago and continues.

BLAINO & HAMMERMAN POST, 12 JUNE


6-12-2012 Blaino: According to 3 confirmed Dinarians, some large IQD holders "MAY" be getting some signals regarding "CASHING OUT" AHHHH. LET ME TYPE THOSE GOLDEN WORDS ONE MORE TIME. "CASHING OUT!" Feels good just to type it out. WOOHOO-BAY_BEEEEE! Got some intel from my "Whale Watcher" earlier today: Seems like out 'turn' is in the works for the next few days. IF, That's IF all works out! He/She/They are even now awaiting a call regarding 'departure!' Said the "Whales" ought to be done cashing in today and/or tomorrow and then "WE" get our turn at bat! (SWING BATTER, SWING!) He/She/They doubt we will see much before Thursday maybe Friday. So, using our judgement and common sense, we should be done by mid week next week. Maybe!!



6-12-2012 Hammerman: My intel is good so far. If I told you all the info I have today your heads would explode. I'm happy, what I said on the call last night is being comfirmed. I do not speak but about 20 arabic words and yes im in contact with 10 or so whales that have cashed out.  Been confirming all morning.  Between this Thursday and the 20th for an RV. I'll really be shocked if we see it this week, with the way they are in timing I feel late next week we'll see an RV.  2.72 is what I am being told. Not the offical rate, just what is on the cards for every day Iraqi citizens. Government and military will get more I am being told.
 

BEAR POST CHAT, 12 JUNE


pennoch2000: WELCOME BROTHER BEAR....GOOD TO SEE YOU TONIGHT

   ajay214: There's a BEAR in the house!!! Welcome back Bear.

chattels: hog1 personally i am looking to confirm that iraq is released from chapter 7 on friday and then it could be hours or days or a week, i am looking for an announcement prior to the first of july

chattels: MP specifies preconditions for Maliki's impeachment 12/06/2012 19:09 : http://www.aknews.com/en ••• /311975/

Believer: Good to see you Bear5642

Bear5642: ok first let's take care of business my contact was extremely nervous and anxious with the question i poised to him however he said it would take more time and HE would have to arrange for a private meeting.
chattels: parliamentreconvenes on the 21st

hog1: chattels : Thanks for your thoughts

chattels: hog1 welcome

Bear5642: He told me by friday he will get back with me

pennoch2000: Bear5642 WHAT QUESTION DID YOU POSE TO HIM?

Bear5642: Asking m what his intentions were with this situation

Bear5642: And the seating of thje goi

pennoch2000: OH - THE BIG QUESTION......

blanc: Bear5642 evenin bro and do you think they have the votes to unseat him or just cat and mouse game

pennoch2000: I KNOW HE WAS ASKED TO STEP DOWN, HOWEVER, HE DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO BE THE KIND OF LEADER THAT WOULD JUST DO THAT...IMHO - WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?

ajay214: Bear, you stated you expect the RV by the end of the month. Care to share any additional intel?

Believer: Bear, do you feel the M thing is tied to the RV to the degree that we need all of the M things worked out before we do see our RV?

Bear5642: Yes i do because of certain issues coming to a head with iraq government

hank: Bear, so you believe that all of this is held up because of M and the GOI? Thanks

Bear5642: I believe he could resolve some issues with the goi and shabibi wants the goi seated period

hank: Thank you

chattels: Bear5642 Have you information or an opinion as to whether iraq will be released from chapter 7 on friday and if so please tell us whether it is info or opinion

hog1: Bear5642 What is M motative not to deal with the issues and the GOI. Why cann't the USA pressure him??

BROKEOILY: bear5642 gone

They are a soveriegn nation and shabibi wants a government

 6:50 PM ladyluck: Maliki's opponents are attending for questioning next week: http://tiny.cc/neatfw

 6:52 PM Bear5642: Let me get call from iraq Friday

6:53 PM Bear5642: Anything else

6:54 PM chattels: Bear5642 is it fair to say that your info relies upon the single source in iraq ?

6:54 PM WISERNOW: Is your daughter okay and did she have her baby?

6:54 PM stevhens777: Bear5642 So you disagree with other intel providers saying its out of Iraq's hands now?

6:56 PM nannanae: bear could it be the last ditch smoke like kuwait did a big drama thing as smoke?

6:56 PM nannanae: or is all those nations there to make sure they get rid of the PM

6:58 PM Bear5642: I wish i had more and oh by the way i did speak with specific people who are involved in the bank codes today and we have come to an understanding -

first and foremost clear my name and stop putting out lies about me.

Second - be careful because i am watching and will find out if anything is crooked and illegal.

Third - these 2 people swore to me they were not receiving any payments or disbursements for the bank codes.

I have names number and emails and i know how to use them. Taking applications with specifc information has a serious liability issue - so i hope they have liability insurance in the sums of millions to back up any transactions that go through their hands.

6:59 PM Bear5642: Let say billions of liability insurrance to back up these transactions

7:00 PM nannanae: just sounds like more smoke and mirrors and miss understandings we beings are so famous for..

7:00 PM hog1: Bear5642 :Have you heard any news about a big announcement on Thursday? either in Iraq or USA

7:00 PM Bear5642: There was no yelling or aguing and we have resolved some concerns i had. However i feel the actual cash in the iqd should be enough profit for anyone and i hate anyone being motivated by greed. 1% is way to much

7:01 PM blessed&highlyfavored: Bear5642 any "guesses" on the rate??

7:01 PM Bear5642: All i know is i have been called and told to relax take abt=reathe and be patient it is big day of expectation

7:01 PM blessed&highlyfavored: Bear5642 ok thanks!

7:02 PM Bear5642: I will touch rate or date i feel june is ripe for an rv

7:02 PM Bear5642: NOT

7:03 PM Bear5642: People wake up and be extremely cautious who you give information and what you give the wolves are out and they are lerking and busy

7:03 PM hank: Bear, any thoughts to the potential lifting of chapter 7 this weeks' end? Thanks

7:03 PM Bear5642: I feel chapter 7 wto and goi are all there

7:04 PM Rajuncajun: Bear. Glad to see ya back on a site. There are a lot of CRAZY speculations out there. I do not feel we are in a window nor do I believe no more weekends. I feel this will not happen for at least a few more weeks at least. What say you?

7:04 PM Bear5642: By the way dinardetectives is a totally unbiased web site and they do post what i say

7:05 PM Bear5642: No later than end of june jmo

7:06 PM blessed&highlyfavored: Bear5642 so all this we hear about the rv being in the bank is bunk?

7:06 PM BROKEOILY: Bear5642 thanks a million and bless you

7:06 PM Bear5642: Amen i am blessed to have a place i can call home and i do consider you all to be family. Since i was rejected and cast out for asking a question. Thank god i have tuff skin and gentle heart

7:07 PM Bear5642: I will be back tomorrow at 3:30 pm if thats ok and i will give an hour to questions

7:07 PM Bear5642: CENTRAL

7:07 PM blessed&highlyfavored: Bear5642 sounds great!

7:09 PM Bear5642: Well i am blessed and highly favored and this is my new home. Remember i didn't betray anyone

7:10 PM hank: Bear, Thank you for your time. I will see you tomorrow.

7:13 PM Bear5642: God bless you and i will be back tomorrow. Remeber i was just recently banned and it is a horrible feeling. As a wingman in the other site i had the authority to ban others and not once it 3 years did i evr do it. Pray before u ban just a suggestion not challenging the mods or admin

7:13 PM Bear5642: THANK YOU

 7:14 PM Bear5642: Good night see you tomorrow

7:14 PM WheresMyRV?: bye Bear5642

7:15 PM Bear5642: Noy but later

7:15 PM Bear5642: BYE

7:15 PM Bear5642: Not bye but later 

EAGLE HAS LANDED POST, 12 JUNE

from Eagle Has Landed....


A MUST-WATCH VIDEO! 


Iraq makes political and economic progress


USA TODAY reporter Jim Michaels elaborates on life in Iraq six months after U.S. combat troops left.


VIDEO is just over four minutes long


http://www.usatoday.com/video/index.htm?bctid=1677242929001#/Iraq/Iraq+makes+political+and+economic+progress/42804638





POSTS FROM DINARLAND, 12 JUNE


laurelei] Great quote of the day: "It is not what they take away from you that counts. It's what you do with what you have left." Hubert Humphrey

eleanor] 56 hours to go

[xyz] eleanor 56hrs to what?

[eleanor] Friday

[xyz] eleanor ...and friday is the backwall? hmm

[eleanor] xyz Rv won't happen til after Fri

eleanor] This month, this week

[xyz] eleanor why so?

[eleanor] this year

[eleanor] Cause I said so

[eleanor] xyz hehehe

[eleanor] and have been for some time
[Aremel] eleanor Little Aremel, do your homework ... "Why mom?" Cause I said so ....

 [eleanor] xyz cause smart cards will be out by then,and lower denoms, and iraq will be released from chap 7, And the banks are tired of waiting

 [eleanor] And the timing will be right for the election

Aremel] 911GTS Anyone who brings bad news in here ... be forewarned. I have a VooDoo Doll and a Chicken and I know how to use them

eleanor] And I supply the pins

[bama] in fact, I am almost certain that the reason the people in the Middle East continue to blow each other up and throw shoes at politicians has very little to do with religion or culture and more to do with their frustration over the fact that they can not have pulled pork, bbq ribs, and a cold beer

[bama] if they would put a pig in the ground, tap a keg, and relax, they could have all of their political issues worked out by the time the pig was smoked

[ZTenor] bama I think the beer would make them forget their differences and someone would be soooooo happy they would push the rv button just to see what it does.... rofl

[bama] of course, they could also be a little up tight over the fact that the only parts of a women they ever get to see are her eyes and her hands .....

 [bama] I mean what kind of world is it when there are no cut off jeans and halter tops? Not one I want to live in, that's for sure lol

bama] smokin70s the good news is that I am fairly certain that I am relatively positive that I know that I think that there is a decent chance that we can have a reasonable hope that there is a high probability of success of this occurring at some point in the future lol

dinarmama7] We all need to pray for Poppy3 - he has internal bleeding and one of the ribs has punctured a lung. papajack, would you lead us in prayer for him please.

[papajack] Sure Father YAHVEH in YAHSHA's Name we bind the physical attack against POPPY3 and we ask you to infuse his body with the healing power for which Your Son paid such a high price. We thank and praise you for the miracle in POPPY 3's body. AMEN!!!!

[BGG] highhopes - - hogwash. He's looking better today.

[BGG] I just got off the phone with Mrs. Poppy. I bet he listens in on the call tonite - I doubt he talks though.

[OfCourse13] bclarkutah I really feel for him! I broke one rib years ago when I was young and it hurt like crazy! Couldn't lie down and breathe. Had to sleep in a recliner for weeks. Poppy broke lots more and is older.  

[OfCourse13] Not a lot they can do for shoulder blades and ribs either. Just time.

 [daniandquin] Happiness is not something ready made. It comes from your own actions. Dalai Lama

[daniandquin] It is very important to generate a good attitude, a good heart, as much as possible. From this, happiness in both the short term and the long term for both yourself and others will come.~~~ Dalai Lama

eagles4] When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it. –Henry Ford

[bamanana] Cool. thanks..........man, the intel this past week has been really really slow..........

[musiccitylady] bamanana yes, strange

[andisgram1] punkin Starting to doubt today!

 [Stitch] punkin working on it hon! The castle is filled with expectation and anticipation!! rofl

[punkin] Stitch Do you have anything to share that is solid information?

[djoni] gm RV will you show today??????

 [Stitch] punkin nothing new that hasn't already been shared by our intel providers. Waiting for the Golden Silence to become the Celebration Roar!! : [daniandquin] Stitch NIcely Said!!

[andisgram1] Stitch Haven't we been through the silence before?

[Serendipity] punkin Nobody can share solid stuff. Seems to make it get up and run away. And besides when ready to go, seems like anything can stop it. But I decided that I was going to enjoy today as if it was my blessing day. If it isn't I just had a great day. Not anxious just happy!

 [mrsdok] 6-12-2012  Intel Guru TerryK   i want you all to know that we had a chance, a strong chance last night to rv.  there was another attempt to remove m from power yesterday and there are not enough votes to do so.  now there are threats just to remove him from power.  i pray this is done prior to the 15TH.  i do know today there are talks going ON...IF they dont remove him, i think this will push to sept 1

[Aremel] Has anyone in this room heard that at roughly a couple of days ago that there was an RV, and now we are just waiting on codes?

[farmtrader] Terrik says Sept 1.

[bbme] Aremel Aremel i can't prove anything but was told the whales had all cashed in???

 [Aremel] bbme I have heard that too, but I can't prove it either.

 [gr8teth] Aremel didnt happen

[Aremel] gr8teth Based upon fact or supposition?

[gr8teth] no pre cashin of whales yet

[gr8teth] Aremel fact

[bbme] Aremel Aremel i was told to get my passport and make sure everything was together

[Aremel] Facts? Care to share the source of the fact or how you know for sure?

[farmtrader] gr8teth how do you know? just asking.

[Aremel] I am not trying to prod a sleeping lion here, but I have seen a lot of people declare this or that as fact, but when they are pressed as to the source of the fact or how they KNOW for sure that what they say is indeed fact and not just words parroted from someone else ... they never can or choose not to.

[gr8teth] this is a NO PROD zone...lol

GENERALS POST, 12 JUNE

generals64] Now, the Bank (Wells Fargo) has told us that the Cash in group of Generals64 and Studley will have the highest rate available....There was a person that said the negotiators were getting 10% of the dinar cashed in...He only got a piece of the conversation...So, listen right now closely for the TRUTH....READY????

generals64] When we got Studley for a negotiator we had a short and very complete discussion of what we expected...And, We asked him to try and get an extra 10% above the stated rate for this group. We told him to get it from the Banks Spread. He agreed....and that is where the 10% number came from...So, if you are in our group and you follow that other person then YOU are the one getting the extra 10% not him....Think about it....And, if you want to ask me a question and see me here YOU KNOW I'll do my best to answer it...

[generals64] The Generals64/Studley group is open to anyone who is wanting to be in the negotiated group. You are not charged anything (but a toaster for me and milk bones for Roscoe lol). We felt that a leverage of More people with more dinar would help all of us. I have always thought it would be only fair if everyone were to be treated the same....Now, QUIT asking about Bank Packages as there ABSOLUTELY are NO Bank Packages. All they have is the every day package available to everyone. EVERYONE. .

Now, of course if you have a large quantity of dinar there will be Wealth Management programs and YOU (not me or our group) will have to follow your own conscience and your mind. There will be people at the banks that are qualified to tell you the different ways of increasing your income through their systems....

[mimiover21] generals64 If you want my opinion.. If someone is helping us get great ==private service--and a better deal than I could get on my own--I wouln NOT CARE if they did get a commission. That's how free interprise works!! BUT way to go! We are waiting to hear from your peeps! And thanks

[generals64] mimiover21 :...I agree with you. I feel these guys should make a commission but I have my own opinion just like everyone else does. We are really hearing great things and they are not as political as all the people are saying. When this happens it will just happen...

Now, i have told (or asked) our complete group of reasearch and information team to be available for at least three (3) days to help everyone. We intend to be on the sites ( I'm banned from all but this one) and available to tell or explain how it is going down. This is so simple...I don't recommend anyone buying more, nor do I recommend anyone buying reserves. 

You should be registered with a group and i can't say that HARD enough. The group rates will be better than you going in to try and negotiate it for yourself....That I Promise....Couldn't get that one pass Wells Fargo. Yes, We all thought Okie should be the one to announce it...I voted yes myself on that one. Now, Studley and his Partner have worked at this diligently and hard...Give em a break...

[TRUENORTH] generals64 sir, why would we trust them to help us and not themselves?

generals64] TRUENORTH :...who are you asking about helping themselves???

[TRUENORTH] generals64 bankers

[TRUENORTH] generals64 advising us

 [generals64] Let me throw this at the wall folks.....If there is a walk-in Rate and that is what we get we would all take it and run....Right?.....Now, if someone goes in and negotiates a better rate through the banks and collects it through the banks Spread then where and what do we do....Take the posted rate????or the negotiated rate?.....Now, me, I'm going with Studley....He and I have "growled" at each other and I have Yelled very loudly at him....I have yelled very loud at this partner as well....You guys, some time in life you have to find someone to trust and hang your hat on.....

[generals64] TRUENORTH :...A banker here told me about a non-taxable Bond issue and a 6.5% interest rate...I didn't know that existed...If you did then why didn't you tell this whole group????I tell it all and get banned from the other sites....

[TRUENORTH] generals64 Sir, I mean any advisegiven AFTER the negotiation on how they handle ouraccts

 [generals64] TRUENORTH :...Sorry...thought you were "growling"...Please understand I talk to Roscoe more than I do live people....I understand the Banker situation but, i found one that is a financial investor....Personally, I hope they make money...I would rather have someone making money around my money than someone losing it all...wouldn't you???

drl] aTailDragger That's why I don't begrudge PTR for charging their site fee! It not worth it but they have a right to charge it and the national cemetary is filled with valient soldiers that died so they could! It's called freedon libeberty and the American way of life....FREE ENTERPRISE!

[aTailDragger] drl absolutely...supply and demand. If I have to pay for what I want, I will, if I find as good or better for free i will. as long as I know going in...hey, I'm ok with that.

[generals64] aTailDragger :...My information is not FREE....You owe me a Toasterlol

 [TRUENORTH] generals64 of course, that was what I was asking, but I want your investor..ps. I can bark if it is easier for you...lol meant to be fun

[generals64] aTailDragger :...You know, the person that has put more in this than anyone is kcmana...She needs everyones thanks...Seriously...Even Wells FArgo was impressed with her abilities...

 [generals64] TRUENORTH :..When this is over...Get hold of me...this guy is sharp...Seriously

[dietcokeandice] generals64 ye[ she helped me

[chocolaterv] generals64 generals64 how do we thank kcmana?

[generals64] dietcokeandice :...Personally????? I think we are there...Please allow me to just say that...i don't want to jinx it...

[generals64] YOU GUYS/GALS...:....I am a History Buff and I mean Fanatic about it....I really enjoy the research of all historical things...Remember, I've been married to a School Teacher for 46 years...this has to happen and all the stuff being put out by some of the GURUS is just hopes and desires...Now, They can say the same about me but I can and will produce verification or I don't tell it..

digs] generals64 has there been any discussions with regards to getting a better rate on the VND at time of cash-in as well with being a member of the group?

 [generals64] Digs :...The VND has not been an issue...it should have been though...

generals64] kittykat4fun :...did you know Texas Mama has a blue Polka Dot Bikini that she wears while working in her North Rose Garden...

Skyman] generals64 now that is funny, and will most likely end up on Recaps.. roflmao

SALTYDOG] generals64 Do you know how many toasters you are going to get?? rofl

[generals64] SALTYDOG :...haven't gotten a single one yet....kinda like the Gurus...just promises...lol

BWM CHAT, 12 JUNE


1PM CST 3sintel BWM

[BWM] HERE'S MY PROBLEM WITH SOME APPOINTED PROVIDERS: HERE IS THE STATEMENT THEY POSTED...Logistics is the holdup ... Not Obama, Not Maliki, or anyone else. Once they have all systems in line, we will be going to the bank.

THEN, THEY TURN AROUND AND SAY THIS...It has been estimated by reliable sources that at this point and time, every day that it does not happen, the ending rate will be increased by 85 cents. If you put that into real numbers, that would be $850,000 for every million dinar you have.

[BWM] SO CONSIDER THIS... IF THIS ABOUT LOGISTICS AND OBVIOUSLY NOT IRAQ, WHY WOULD YOU "PENALIZE" A COUNTRY WHO IS NOT IN CONTROL OF THE SITUATION...
[wittsend] BWM A corrective statement was issued by that provider.

[BWM] wittsend has nothing to do with the amount... it's the THEORY... how can you punish a country who has done all they need to do...

[wittsend] BWM Agreed, it seems illogical.

[wenmar] BWM maybe it is not the country they are punishing

[BWM] wenmar it's their currency is it not... to add numbers to THEIR currency sure seems to be pointing it out to them...

[12wait] BWM We already know we come to the no hype zone to get the real news so do we have any REAL updates, thx!!

[BWM] 12wait news has been very good.. made a new "friend" yesterday who had some very good news so I'm waiting to see if what their expectations were come to fruition

[12wait] BWM thanks a lot, I appreciate the work u do with accuracy and for keeping it real. How's DW?

[BWM] 12wait He's been busy working...

[BWM] the other thing that would bother me about such a penalty is they just now decide to this in two weeks ago? I just don't see it that way...

[subtle] BWM...1.5 years ago some awaiting pay outs connected with the WGS were told that because of delay there was fines and penalties that would be added to the amounts the longer it took...so that dinar post seemed similar fwiw

[BWM] subtle the "settlements" I could see where they could levy fines or penalties just based on the circumstances alone... but this is a currency... How can you penalize a currency? Think about it...

[brsuperduty] BWM after 4,567,869 reasons why it hasnt hppened a person tends to question huh???? lol

[brsuperduty] wenmar who what when where huh

[citizensoldier] I that the WGS & PP's are not tied to the revaluation of a currency of a country.

[BWM] brsuperduty the combinations have become plentiful to say the least..

[aTailDragger] BWM So what IYO is the holdup? Do you think they are sitting pat because many are still buying dinar?

[BWM] aTailDragger they know how much dinar they have available... it's accounted for and not a problem..

[wittsend] BWM Have we ID'd just who is levying this penalty? do they have the authority or the power to do so?

[BWM] remember, the dinar in other countries is not "paid" for technically by Iraq... so it really doesn't matter to them

[brsuperduty] BWM i feel sorry for the person who knows the real reason and happens to try and say so

[wittsend] BWM Have we ID'd just who is levying this penalty? do they have the authority or the power to do so?

[BWM] remember, the dinar in other countries is not "paid" for technically by Iraq... so it really doesn't matter to them

[BWM] wittsend my point is there can't be a penalty IMO levied against the revaluation of a currency.. they may decide they NEED more money but to think that every hour that goes by they will have to raise the amount seems ridiculous to me

[aTailDragger] BWM ok so technically in other countries, it is paid for by USA as primary trade currency maybe?

[BWM] aTailDragger oil costs about $2 a barrel (full production costs approximately) even by "trading" the oil at $30 something a barrel they still are technically making money off the transaction

[wenmar] BWM wouldn't that mean that any fine would not affect Iraq?

[BWM] wenmar the fine would by definition raise the value of the currency IN COUNTRY also... which they have a budgeted amount... so would they have to change their budget to reflect the amount of changes in prices they would have to make in the market and in business to reflect those penalties

[citizensoldier] wenmar The USA is not a memberof the world court and therefore not subject to its rulings.

[wittsend] BWM I don't disagree with your point, but mine asks just as basic a question but the approach is from a different angle.

[BWM] wittsend I can see where you are going with that...

[wenmar] BWM that wouldn't be the case would it if it already Rv"d in the country and they delay that they are talikng about the fine for would be out of country, would it?

[BWM] wenmar has it RV'd in country? the economics of it say it can't happen that way... at best you'd look at about a 10 hour "headstart" and that would be if it revalued on a saturday night

[brsuperduty] BWM so really its just a matter of everything being lined up for this size of a event????

[HeIsFaithful] What is really bothersome is that things are getting increasingly worse economically and we continue to wait. Puzzling to say the least. [HeIsFaithful] "Should be increasingly bad" poor grammar.

[shalala] BWM What are your feelings about whether Iraq will be released from CH7 on Friday?

[BWM] shalala don't think so... don't think it matters to us

[shalala] BWM Can you elaborate on that last part please? Meaning may RV before anyway?

[wittsend] shalala I think it has to.

[BWM] shalala 7 needs RV... RV doesn't need 7...

[wenmar] BWM That's the million dollar question....

[wittsend] BWM If it is a penalty which increases the redemption cost of each barrel of oil redeemed with dinar turned over by the UST to Iraq with the purpose in mind to the US in the butt for whatever delays have occurred, then it may make some sense.

[BWM] wittsend but if the inherent statement says it's not the U.S. either... how can you justify it causing them a penalty also... see the problem?

[BWM] shalala 7 needs RV... RV doesn't need 7...

[shalala] BWM Yep understand that. With that said, what is your feeling on how close we might be at this point?

[wittsend] BWM Does the "inherent statement" say it's not the US?

[BWM] wittsend the term in the post referred to "logistics"... so who do we penalize... UPS, FEDEX? I mean.. the IMF? who you gonna penalize? GHOSTS?

[wenmar] wittsend That makes sense to me...

[wenmar] BWM It could be the US Treasury, The Fed, The IMF....

[wenmar] BWM I think logically is the operative word. Nothing in this has been logical from my perspective.

[wittsend] BWM Making each barrel more "expensive' lessens the potential "savings" envisioned by the Bush admin.

[BWM] wittsend here's the problem... the Saudi's would like to lower the cost per barrel of oil (which would be good for consumers, bad for everyone else selling oil) while the other OPEC countries (remember who's "supposed" to be the head of it) want the price much higher... those who have a lot of something can affored to charge less because they make volume...

[HeIsFaithful] BWM all I know is based on info shared and not shared and the economic disaster we are looking at daily. The delay is curious.

[BWM] My concern is that we look at every piece of information as logically (I know that's a stretch in this) and determine whether it fits in the FRAMEWORK AS IT WAS WRITTEN... I'm not saying that the information could be totally wrong, but it is presented in a way that completely IMO leaves it without credible backing...

[shalala] BWM Thanks for helping to chat through these things. This is how intel should be done, and why we all love 3sintel!

[aTailDragger] penalze PIF? Your logic makes sense...so who or what than is guarding the button? holding up the revalue?IYO

[wittsend] BWM comments: How often has the framework that you refer to shifted?

[BWM] wittsend I'm talking about ppl posting specifically... please don't read or let me miscommunicate what exactly I'm having a problem with... this is about information shared on these chat boards...

[wittsend] BWM Perhaps I'm in error here, but what the Saudis' do or want is completely outside of this transaction with only some small bearing on it.

[BWM] wittsend it doesn't affect the RV directly in that sense BUT it has formed alliances that create less than ideal situations for some...

[wittsend] BWM I agree that the original provider who talked about the penalty was less than forthcoming with a reasonable explanation as to why it was forthcoming.

[wenmar] BWM Would the oil credits that the US is to receive be out of the hands of OPEC?

[BWM] wenmar OPEC's purpose is to control the production and therefore price of oil for the countries within it's association..

[wenmar] BWM From what I have read, Iraq remains a member of OPEC, but Iraqi production has not been a part of any OPEC quota agreements since March 1998. So, how does that play into it?

[BWM] wenmar again, it's the alliances that are/will/could be an issue down the road... I think we've gotten down a trail that is leading some to believe that this is an issue with the RV when it isn't... so please don't read it that way...

[wittsend] wenmar I think those credits would have to be outside if you'll let me kibbutz here.

[wenmar] wittsend I would think so too.

[BWM] wenmar it wouldn't as wittsend has said earlier... I don't think it would affect the issues in regards to the cost of the trade agreements...

[wittsend] BWM If we accept the premise that the Saudis want to lower the price per barrel, the dinar/oil credit deal could prompt the reason.

[BWM] wittsend if there were an "oil" war it would be about keeping the order of the countries as they want to make them happen... I can't see the Saudis doing anything to keep them from being number 1 in production... they are pretty proud of that...

[wittsend] BWM I think that's true, but to be honest, I don't see these possible repercusions standing in the way of this occurring, and I don't get the sense that you do either.

[wittsend] BWM But it could happen as you suggest.

[BWM] wittsend absolutely not... just one of those things on the sideline