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Sunday, May 20, 2012

JONNY & BELLAGRITS CHAT: Q & A, 20 MAY

jonnywg] FIREFIGHTERGIRL GET READY FOR TOMORROW ........ NIGHT NOW

 [ringbell] .jonnywg. Hi. How are you.

 [.jonnywg] blessing HAVING COFFEE WITH CHRISTINE ............. LOL

[.jonnywg] ringbell GET READY FOR STEAK

.jonnywg] WHILE TONIGHT IS YET ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO REJOICE. WE MUST REMAIN CALM AND FOCUSED............. WE ARE ALL READY

  [Maryrose] on a one to ten scale how does this week look?

[BellaGrits] Maryrose AWESOME IMO......

[keiji] .jonnywg so tonight/tomorrow could be magical?

[.jonnywg] keiji YES IT COULD BE

[plastyxman] .jonnywg .jonnywg .jonnywg what did you mean, when you said "whatever the outcome"

[BellaGrits] plastyxman EVASIVE IS THE KEY AT THIS POINT

racerx85] what is the word for vnd

 [BellaGrits] racerx85 THE VND HAS BEEN ALL OVER THE PLACE FROM .03-.99

[andisgram1] IQD tomorrow too?

[BellaGrits] andisgram1 WE WANT IT ALL!!!

[sharonsdinar1] .jonnywg does it seem like all the bad dudes have been taken out of the picture as well as all the glitches.. we could actually have a go...

.jonnywg] sharonsdinar1 NOT EVEN CLOSE T...........THOUSANDS OF BAD DUDES STILL LEFT ,,,,,,,,,,,,, BUT WE ARE GETTING CLOSE

 [1lucky1] .jonnywg I heard it was 120 degrees in april, it melted most of the ice cap...will there be an earthquake on venus this yr? :cheers: :cheers:

[.jonnywg] 1lucky1 PROBABLY BUT I CANNOT USE THE MAGIC WAND TO CORRECT SO WE WILL HAVE TO PUT UP WITHIT SOMEHOW

[firenice] Jonnywg is this truly coming to a conclusion?

[BellaGrits] firenice WE BELIEVE WE COULD BE WRITING THE FINAL CHAPTER...OH, WHAT A NOVEL; WHAT VOLUMES, HUH?

[febgirl] .jonnywg do you still agree that we are now 24 hours into your 36 hours guideline from last night

[.jonnywg] febgirl febgirl YES WE ARE 24 INTO IT

[twisted67] jonnywg......do you think everything is ready for us CHD to cash in here

 [drpete] There seems to be two very distinct camps: those that feel that it is all about what is going on in Iraq with Malikil and Erbil and the GOI and those that feel it has nothing to do with Iraq. Is is just a source bias?

BellaGrits] drpete CONFUSION....WE KNOW WE ARE RIGHT! BAHAHAHHAAHA

[wittsend] Does Wells Fargo have the UST codes in its possession?

[.jonnywg] racerx85 JURY IS OUT BUT THERE WILL BE NO DOUBLE DIPFOR SURE

[barb] Is the 36 hour countdown clock still running

[.jonnywg] wittsend YES

[weneedit] Do you think we may wait to RV till next weekend (3 Day holiday ) ?

[.jonnywg] barb 24 HOURS INTO IT

[BellaGrits] weneedit NO, WE DON'T THINK SO AT ALL

[dinar4golf] .jonnywg BellaGrits do you still think the banks will have extended hours for appointments? TY for your time.

[.jonnywg] dinar4golf YES

[artle01] .jonnywg China appears to be really driving the VND-gosh, they about own Viet Nam! I am looking for .20-.25 but I have heard some estimates to almost $2!! What a ride!!What is your best guess from your intel?

[BellaGrits] artle01 UNDER .02 -.20-- BE HAPPY ANYTHING OVER

[redsnowbird] .jonnywg Why do you think the rates keep changing?

[TXinCA] Jonnywg - so it looks like red shoes or boots will be in order soon!! Thank you and Bella for all you do!!

[BellaGrits] TXinCA YOU'RE SO WELCOME

[shooter] .jonnywg When it comes to timing, they must relize by now there is no perfect time. Do you think they will just go for close?

[.jonnywg] redsnowbird MARKET CONDITIONS..... OIL.......GOLD............USD

ready4bank] jonnywg How long will we have for the high rates? ty

[BellaGrits] shooter ITS ALL ABOUT OIL, GOLD, AND THE USD...THE ALIGNMENT OF SUCH....WE THINK THE POSITION LOOKS GREAT

[possum] .jonnywg BellaGrits Given ur hands are tied can u still smile? if its cashin tmrw, just smile...tyvm

[.jonnywg] ready4bank WE ARE TOLD SEVERAL DAYS

Fawkesfire] .jonnywg BellaGrits it was mentioned that more currencies may rv in another basket in about 6 weeks...is that still a possibility? Thank you

[BellaGrits] Fawkesfire ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE..WE DO LOOK FOR MORE

[.jonnywg] possum possum WE ARE SMILING

[wheezer2] BellaGrits .jonnywg GE...do you still feel confident about the 36 hr time frame you gave last night?

texasguey] some are saying that only a few banks will be cashing in is this true

[BellaGrits] texasguey NO...MANY

[.jonnywg] wheezer2 YES 24 INTO IT

[...tigger1] How sure are u about the week and we dont have to go thru another week end?

[.jonnywg] ...tigger1 DANG ...NO MORE WEEKENDS PLEASE

[wittsend] Has Wells fargo received the go-ahead to release the UST's codes?

[BellaGrits] wittsend YOU'D HAVE TO ASK WELLS FARGO

[Arwen] wittsend But please don't call banks!

[kimberly] .jonnywg when you say there will be no double dipping, will there be an opportunity to pay bills with the cashout of the VND? What is your timeline feasibilities with that scenario?

jonnywg] kimberly DO NOT KNOW BUT PROBABLY

[Apostle_2012] .jonnywg .. as silly as it may sound, do you think the iluminate has any influence on Lagarde? IYO

.jonnywg] Apostle_2012 YES

~healthy3] I have an account with Chase and that is the closest bank that has foreign currency dept on-site verification. Do you think they are still okay to use?

[.jonnywg] ~healthy3 SHOULD BE OK

[dinofan] is the timing pre-set at trip points for commodities or does a person have to ok it when numbers look good?

[.jonnywg] dinofan THERE IS MORE THAN TRIP POINTS AT STAKE

[Apostle_2012] .jonnywg .. as silly as it may sound, do you think the iluminate has any influence on Lagarde? IYO

[BellaGrits] Apostle_2012 POSSIBLE

 [weneedit] What do you think about the story if we walk into a bank w/out a reservation we would get a lower rate ?

.jonnywg] weneedit weneedit weneedit NOT NECESSARILY

[rlsunsfan] Have the culmination of very public meetings about global reset and the publicity helped push this through to start tomorrow?

[BellaGrits] rlsunsfan WE SURE HOPE SO...WE DON'T CARE WHAT PUSHES IT...JUST DO IT ALREADY!

 [truthseeker1] .jonnywg BellaGrits Much admiration and thanks to you both for all you have done for the planet in this adventure! Can you comment on how safe our funds will be in the banks...will Basel III protect it, given there are still thousands of bad dudes remaining?

[.jonnywg] truthseeker1 I CANNOT GIVE ADVICE BUT I PERSONALLY WILL KEEP 25% TO INVEST IMMEDIATELY IN USA........ THE BALANCE I WILL MOVE TO A MONEY MARKET ACCOUNT IN FOREIGN CURRENCIES ................................ I WILL BRING BACK MORE AS NEEDED

[.jonnywg] OK ALL WE ARE NEAR THE END OF THE JOURNEY.................THERE IS NOT MUCH INTEL TO PROVIDE............. PLEASE PREPARE FOR THE END

[snuffys] what time will it show tomorrow??

[BellaGrits] snuffys NOW, DO I FAVOR SAMANTHA FROM BEWITCHED????

[shybabi] What % probability.... RV will hit in the next 12 hours

[BellaGrits] shybabi IT'S GOOD ... IT'S BEEN GOOD FOR 3 WEEKS

[diesel09] Jonny and Bella do you know of a document that was put out in 2003 it is a 180 pages have either of you heard of this doc o yes and it was put out by pres Bush?

[Fawkesfire] .jonnywg BellaGrits if all the silence and trying to be non telling on the boards does no good....will you scream intel and the top of your lungs until the darn thing pops?

[BellaGrits] Fawkesfire YOU BETCHA!

[.jonnywg] Fawkesfire NO AS IT DOES NO GOOD

[ddsnp] JWG/Bella...what do ppl mean when they say "double dip"

[BellaGrits] ddsnp DOUBLE DIPPING IS WHEN YOU CASHOUT AND INVEST YOUR MONEY BACK INTO A CURRENCY

[.jonnywg] THANKS TO ALL THE MODS

[BellaGrits] THANK YOU SWEET QUEEN AND ALLLLL THE MODS...HUG A MOD TONIGHT!

 [.jonnywg] I WILL STATE TONIGHT THAT WE ARE YET AGAIN IN A GREAT POSITION .......WE HOPE IT PUSHES THROUGH AND SATISFIES EVERYONE...............JONNY

POPPY POST, 20 MAY

9:00 PM [poppy3] yes lots of bogus stuff .. and remember i leaked the meeting they held today and it was supposed to be a private or secret meeting. Well the result of that meeting are being held very secret. Hold on this is very critical aquiring confirmation and also getting facts. 

We will unravell the intel and work on finding the facts ASAP. Try not to get sucked up into the rumors. FACTS FOR TODAY WILL APEAR TOMORROW it has been that way for a good while and this today meeting should have great results. It won’t surprise me if they don’t wait a week – which could be the reason for the “unnamed” thingy. 

The smoke trail doesn’t look to be for us BGG said this yesterday and it is so true I agree with him completely. GRACE IS ON THE THRONE AND WE ARE ALL TREMENDOUS WINNERS POPPY3

9:06 PM [poppy3] glryan11 no body said a week ??????????? where and why do peeps want to paint the worst case senario with every bit of information. guys i have faith in my lord jesus that i am a winner and i always have been since i started following his word and trying to maintain my eligibility to recieve from him. never place your thoughts in a state of negative HE ISN'T EVER NEGATIVE WITH YOU OR YOUR SITUATION he wants you to prosper. GODS LOVE TO ALL POPPY3

[poppy3] all is well - AS I WAS SAYING we are and will be in the winners circle and BGG and Myself from information and yes some of it isn't confirmed as yet but all shows we are moving faster towards our Blessing than we have in 3 years. 

I know it is hard to continue to be patient but man I been waiting on my son to get up and talk to me for 26 years so this wait is nothing. You turn you faith to GOD and then you feed it with his word and nothing can stop you. I wish I could talk to all of you for a couple hours and tell you my story and how GOD has blessed me for years . 

Some day perhaps I can and I promise you will be shocked. ok i am going to get supper . STAY positive and stay happy . POPPY3

JONNY, BELLAGRITS & SWEETQUEEN CHAT, 20 MAY

.jonnywg] what a day

[xyz] .jonnywg good or great?

 [.jonnywg] good so far

[diverdown] Jonny what's good

[.jonnywg] we are all waiting in anticipation of the rv..........whatever the outcome we are still in a great position

.jonnywg] i will do a q&a in a bit

BellaGrits] HI HOPE YOU ALL ARE DOING GREAT.....JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THIS ROLLERCOASTER RIDE HAS BEEN HARD ON ALL OF US, BUT I TRULY SEE MORE UPS THAN DOWNS AT THIS POINT.....I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THINGS LOOK VERY VERY PROMISING .......

I AM EXCITED, AS ARE MANY OTHERS I AFFILIATE WITH IN THE INTEL WORLD.....I PLAN ON HAVING A FABULOUS WEEK..... PLEASE FORGIVE MY EVASIVE COMMENTS.....IT SEEMS TO BE FOR THE BEST, AND I'LL ADHERE TO WHATEVER I NEED TO SO WE CAN GET THIS RIDE OVER ASAP. THANKS FOR BEING THE GREAT PPL YOU ARE...THANKS FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND PATIENCE-- I ADMIRE YOU ALL VERY MUCH. ~BELLA

[..SweetQueen] I TRULY BELIEVE WE HAVE REASONS TO BE EXCITED, ALTHOUGH I REMAIN GROUNDED BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD TOO MANY TIMES AND I HAVE ALWAYS WOUND UP IN A DEAD END, BUT HOPEFULLY THIS TIME THE NAVIGATION SYSTEM IS WORKING AND THAT WON'T HAPPEN. ROFL

ready4bank] BellaGrits we are in hour 21 of the 36 jonny said last night, still on track for this timeline?

[motorcitymark] ready4bank maybe , quite possibly .... won't know til the end

BellaGrits] ready4bank I FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT, WHAT ABOUT YOU GUYS?

barb] BellaGrits Bella, I am hearing that banks do not want packages put into chat rooms or forums. Have you information you can share about that? Thank you :)

BellaGrits] barb YOU WILL GET INSTRUCTIONS AS SOON AS IT RV'S ... OK?

 [BellaGrits] barb REMEMBER THE BANKS WILL HAVE THEM AT THEIR SITES TOO

justincase] BellaGrits BellaGrits - Do we have any special sign-up to get the intel4u package??

BellaGrits] justincase NO....YOU JUST FREELY GET THEM....NO PROBLEMS AT ALL

BellaGrits] telemar59 PLEASE DON'T BE ANXIOUS..... ALL IS WELL .... WE WORK 19/24 HOURS A DAY.....HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR OVER A YEAR.... WE ABOUT HAVE THIS THING IN A CORNER WHERE IT CAN'T RUN NOR HIDE~

care888] BellaGrits ...perhaps you could address..why is the CBI rate for the swiss franc not on there with an amount when it's listed on the IMF rates of exchange?

 [aceman] care888 that means nothing

 [BellaGrits] care888 THE SITE YOU ARE LOOKING AT FOR THE CBI IS NOT REAL--FOR STARTERS..... MAYBE THEY SLIPPED UP?

 [tlhcbh] Bellagrits I read elsewhere that VND and a couple of other currencies may RV before IQD if RV of IQD is delayed further. Any comments on that?

[aceman] BellaGrits just curious how do we know the cbi site is not real?

[BellaGrits] tlhcbh IMO WE WILL SEE THEM RV TOGETHER, AND YES, THERE WERE RUMORS OF THAT...

BellaGrits] aceman AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, ANCIENT CHINESE SECRET!!!

SECRET!!!

[blessing] BellaGrits where is our pal Soonerfan62?

 [BellaGrits] blessing AHHHH, HE IS PROBABLY TAKING IT EASY--SOONERFAN IS MORE THAN LIKELY WATCHING GOLF AND KICKING BACK IN HIS LAZYBOY!

[TexasT] BellaGrits well than how can we make this RV,,,happen

[BellaGrits] TexasT IT WILL HAPPEN....YOU ALL KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN.... NEVER STOP BELIEVING..WE'VE COME WAY TOO FAR...

[BellaGrits] TexasT IT WILL HAPPEN....YOU ALL KNOW IT WILL HAPPEN.... NEVER STOP BELIEVING..WE'VE COME WAY TOO FAR...

[slydog] BellaGrits Did johnny have to leave

[ [BellaGrits] slydog HE HAD A PRIOR OBLIGATION..... NO BIG DEAL.....HE MAY MAKE IT BACK IN LATER.....

TexasT] BellaGrits oh I believe it will happen,,,,now now now now now

[Angel] I believe, I believe I believe, I believe I believe, I believe I believe, I believe

[BellaGrits] TexasT THAT'S THE SPIRIT OF A TRUE TEXAN!

[..SweetQueen] I'M GETTING NUMEROUS PM'S ABOUT MY STATEMENT TO BELLAGRITS "IF YOU KNOW WHAT I KNOW WE HAVE REASONS TO BE EXCITED". PLEASE DON'T READ MORE INTO IT THAN JUST A STATEMENT, I AM HOPEFUL AND I FEEL WE ARE CLOSE, BUT I HAVE ALWAYS SAID TO REMAIN GROUNDED BECAUSE IT WILL BE IN GOD'S TIMING , NO MATTER HOW MUCH WE CLAIM TO KNOW.

 [tlhcbh] Bellagrits, your thoughts on how competitive the Currency dealers will be compared to the banks when time comes to cash in?

[BellaGrits] tlhcbh I PERSONALLY LIKE THE BANKS MYSELF.... I WANT TO DIVERSIFY THOUGH.... I PLAN TO MOVE IT OUT AFTER CASHIN AND INVEST NOT ONLY IN OUR COUNTRY BUT IN MANY THINGS...

vegaspete] I was told by a source in a huge group that this will not happen until Miliki, or however you spell his name is gone. If that's soon it will happen soon. If not this is all about politics...

BellaGrits] vegaspete NOTHING ABOUT IRAQ ANYMORE

 [LSUgal] good afternoon everybody! Been feeling bad most all day and haven't been on anything Good To Report Today??

[BellaGrits] LSUgal SORRY YOU HAVE FELT BAD TODAY.... JUST GOOD VIBES HERE AND TOPPED WITH SOME GOOD INTEL....THAT'S ABOUT IT! ROFLMAO

 [tlhcbh] Bellagrits, Thank you, I was referring to strictly the exchange rates and not any bank packages or post-RV investment opportunities. Do you think the exchange rates offered by the dealers are likely to be very close to those we could get at the banks?

[BellaGrits] tlhcbh I THINK AS FOR MYSELF.... I HAVE MORE LEVERAGE AT A BANK...WE WILL SEE, RIGHT?

 [BellaGrits] REMEMBER PEEPS....NEGOTIATE....THEY NEED YOUR BUSINESS

 [BellaGrits] BUSINESS####

spoofs] BellaGrits Should we use the packages that are offered as a beginning point for negotiations?

BellaGrits] spoofs I WOULD!!!

tlhcbh] Bellagrits yes thanks... I know you must be weary of all of us asking you to read our tea leaves very time you grace us with a q&a session.. Thanks for your patience!

[BellaGrits] tlhcbh NO PROBLEM AND YOU ARE WELCOME....I DONT MIND AT ALL...

spoofs] BellaGrits Glad to know my assumption there was correct. Thank you for all of your help and understanding when we get a bit emotional and unruly!

BellaGrits] spoofs IT'S OKAYYYYYYYYYYY, IF I ONLY HAD THE CHAT ROOM...AND THE INTEL PROVIDERS HAD TO BE SO LIMITED....I DUNNO HOW I'D RESPOND...I SEE IT LIKE THIS, I HAVENT WALKED IN YOUR SHOES...IT APPEARS ITS HARD ENOUGH KNOWING WHAT I DO...SO I ADMIRE YOU ALL IMMENSELY

TexasT] BellaGrits we miss Freeway Bill!!!!!!!!!! he is darn funny

 [BellaGrits] TexasT FREEWAY BILL IS A MESS! LOVE THE GUY! I MISS HIM TOO....HE HAS A BAD INTERNET CONNECTION...HATE THAT!

KAPERONI POST, 20 MAY

From time to time more proof comes my way.
Here is proof that the CBI is collecting the 3 zero notes (as the means to reduce the money supply).
Article...
Deputy: five conditions capable of reviving the economy and most notably the presence of correct vision Sunday, May 20th
http://translate.goo...basraelc.com%2F
Quote...
"The morning newspaper (the semi-official) to the official reports indicated that the central sold last Thursday, nearly 250 million dollars and was able to absorb three trillion dinars over the past month against the sale of two billion dollars and is expected, analysts and financial experts to see the dollar fall further in the coming days Coinciding with the increase in sale auctions currency from the dollar and the decline in demand to buy it in local markets. "
Now that in itself is enough, but this article came out the other day that is the icing...
House of Representatives of the fear of corruption associated with raising the zeros Currency Saturday, May 19
http://translate.goo...Firaq-news.html
Quote...
"A member of the parliamentary Finance Committee Abdul-Hussein al-Yasiri for "Twilight News", "talking about lifting the zeros of the Iraqi currency is accompanied by the opinions of other support and stand against it."
He explained that "those who stand deduced from the change are the currency on the interest that they would gain economic situation in Iraq when replacing paper reviews the category of 1000 dinars to one of category 1 dinar, which means that the money supply would remain the same with a different class."
So they are clearly saying here that "lifting the 3 zeros" does not reduce the money supply in itself. Therefore, as shown above, Shabs job is to collect them. And i might add, he done a fine job
Here is the last quote from that article...
"Economists and shows that the process of removing three zeros from the Iraqi currency will lead to increased value, and to increase the purchasing power of citizens, pointing to the need to pursue policies to persuade the citizens quiet and get used to it for a period not exceeding two years. "
Oh you want more?
How about the SIGIR report to US Congress?
SIGIR - Quarterly Report to the United States Congress (April 2012)
http://www.sigir.mil...12.pdf#view=fit
Look at page 84 (94 from the page guide)
Quote...
"In April 2012, the CoM postponed indefi nitely
plans for a currency reform that would have removed
three zeros from the Iraqi dinar in 2013 and
required the issuance of new currency notes. The
reform would have made the dinar’s value slightly
less than $1. It is currently worth less than one tenth
of a cent."
They are talking about the Council of Ministers (CoM) telling Shabibi to hold off. Which since then we know the CBI has made it clear (as well as Parlaiment) they did not have any authority to do so and the CBI is moving forward. But the key here is they disclose the rate (slightly less than $1.) which support the 1.17 to $1 or .86 rate we have been reading about for months.
Another point from this SIGIR report is clearly this information shows the CBI plan. So those who were saying Shabibi was the bad guy trying to LOP the dinar and the GOI was just stopping that from happening are simply wrong. The CBI has the correct plan, we just need to see it play out.

kap
 

Delete the zeros of the Iraqi currency early 2013 and printing new currency early June, NEWS!

Delete the zeros of the Iraqi currency early 2013 and printing new currency early June



Author maher Babylonian news/Baghdad

Tuesday 15/5/12 3: 47 PM

Iraqi parliamentary sources said that the new Iraqi currency printing will begin early June next will replace currency and delete zeros from the beginning of next year will be 2013.

The parliamentary Finance Committee said, Tuesday, that the deletion of zeros and replace the Iraqi currency would be early January 2013, indicated it will start printing the new currency in various categories.

Member of the Finance Committee, said Haitham Al-Juburi said January next year will delete the three zeros 2013 and replacement of currency, "he said, adding that" starting from September 2012, will next direct printing new currency by various categories. "

Jaburi said that "the process of replacing the old currency will continue year old should be withdrawn in full during the first six months of the year 2014", stating that "delete the three zeros and replace would preserve stability in Iraqi currency and reducing the demand for hard currency.
He Al-Juburi said Iraqi Central Bank allayed all fears concerning money-laundering and forgery during the process of replacing the old with the new currency, "he" possesses a special body to combat money laundering. "

Jaburi said that "reform of currency management system into the work of the Central Bank and to delete zeros is a strategic functions," the Finance Committee in Parliament supports the policy of the Central Bank of Iraq in that direction ".

Issued by the Secretariat of the Council of Ministers on 12 April 2012, a decision to wait in the application deleting zeros from the currency and requiring all the procedures relating to stop the process until further notice.
Some economists believe that Iraq is not initialized at this time to delete the zeros of the Iraqi dinar, pointing out that this step requires political stability and security, along with economic stability.

The Iraqi Central Bank, announced in January 2012, intended to put three large segments of the Iraqi dinar include 200, 100 and 50 dinars after deleting three zeros from the currency, he said the process of replacing the currency take two years.

DANIEL'S BANK STORY POST, 20 MAY

Daniel  said:

I dont know if this will post, but I have a bank story to share.

I have joined a group of people that hold dinar up in Mich. and my friend that got me into the group had just called me down here in Fl. to tell me a wells fargo banker has asked them to get there group together on Tuesday coming up so they can all set up a non interest bearing account, its the first time Ive heard anything real from someone I know. GOOOOOO RVVV!!!!! 

BGG POST, 20 MAY

5-20-2012 BGG: There was a “mini-summit” meeting of the Erbil 5 yesterday in Najaf (an additional “secret” meeting will be held today).  I did foresee this and even talked about it on the last call.  While everyone was upset early in the day about the negative press, secrecy and possible extensions I had several private conversations with folks while on the road yesterday. I was consistent – even though it appeared to be dragging out I told everyone not to  worry. I had a funny feeling (no matter what the press was)  It was about to “officially – HIT THE FAN," and now here we are.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 20 MAY

5-20-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   "Breaking News: All the leaders in today’s meeting have agreed to withdraw confidence from the Maliki"  There was a “mini-summit” meeting of the Erbil 5 yesterday in Najaf (an additional “secret” meeting will be held today). While everyone was upset early in the day about the negative press, secrecy and possible extensions...even though it appeared to be dragging out...I had a funny feeling (no matter what the press was) – It was about to “officially – HIT THE FAN”...and now here we are.

5-20-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy we are just witnessing the necessary, procedural steps that can't be bypassed. First we have the interrogation; next the no-confidence; and finally, once we have a stable GOI and Erbil implementation, Shabibi and the CBI will move ahead with the reforming of their currency project and the raising of the exchange rate.   A week after they interrogate him we should see a vote and he should be out. I think it will happen quickly.

5-20-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   Maliki is toast! The Council of Representatives are going to interrogate him. An interrogation is the first step prior to the request for his removal. Political parties submitted an application that includes the justification for Maliki's dismissal from his office. They announced that this interrogation session must be public so the Iraqi people can watch. The Iraqi constitution defines two ways to withdraw confidence from the PM according to article 61. A week after his removal is submitted, the Council of Representatives may withdraw the confidence from Maliki with an absolute majority of its members. The other option would be for the President to file. The meeting in Najaf already has produced a decision for his removal. The reports yesterday that said a BIG and DECISIVE decision had been reached were true.   ["continued in post 2...stay tuned"]

5-20-2012  Newshound Guru Bondlady   with the presidentual order [exec order 13303] obama just renewed...combine that with...These new banknotes, led to a new industry of selling the new Iraqi dinar to oversea investors who hoped to profit from Iraq’s new currency when the economy improved...the banknotes are exchanged at different rates by companies wanting to make profit. Due to the success of this program...we see no matter what, they cant just shut us out at rv time.  The provisional government of Iraq has made this legal.

5-20-2012  Intel Guru Jonnywg   all of the hype re maliki is just that...it doesn't really matter one way or the other...we are in a holding pattern waiting for the permissions to cash...all is well and the dinar cashin still possible very soon.

5-20-2012  Intel Guru BWM   the constitution prohibits certain things in the revaluing of the dinar...how it can fluctuate will be based on the way it comes out...and will be limited by how that is done.  I know the number in the budget...and it's not 1 or below...it [rate] will be 3 plus MINIMUM...I'm looking more for 4 give or take as the "base".

5-20-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   they will be meeting tomorrow [Sunday] and making plans for post mailki gov.  they are moving fast and have given themselves the 10 day deadline to get all the nine subjects completed...expect that vote within 48 hours after the request goes in and a national conference as fast as possible after that for the assignment of interum pm and implimentation of pending projects. At least this is how the news is lining up.

DINARWISHES POST, 20 MAY

DinarWishes] Life in Dinarland has been very trying at times and the Ride has been So far a challenge and attempt at retiring my therapist.... Really though I have tried to take a small break this weekend and decompress a bit but I have been unsuccessful.... Phone wont stop ringing and My Bride has returned from being a week away from home.... So, also trying to spend time with her....

[DinarWishes] Things are looking really good for the Transition of wealth we have been waiting for.... I have NO IDEA what is the hold up or even if there is one but My plans have been made and I am ready for come what may....

[ [DinarWishes] Well peeps Just wanted to stop by and Now I need to find some food..... 

[DinarWishes] BE GOOD AND GO RV!!!!

HAMMERMAN POST, 20 MAY

5-20-2012 Hammerman: If Iraq doesn't get off their butts in the next 8 days, then 6 other currencies will RV without them.  That's what I have been told from my banking contacts.  

The movement that's going to take place with these other currencies has never happened before.  

The VND started bouncing around yesterday. Last night around midnight it showed at 43 cents.   This morning it was around 13 cents.  

The IQD showed in the banks at $4 and also around $16 but probably won't stay there.  Kuwait is also going to revalue but the IQD will come out higher.

BANK STORY, 20 MAY

STARlite] Bank story: My client is 86 years old, opened two months ago a WF and they know she has dinar and how much. Thursday they called her for an appointment to come into see the wealth management banker. Friday they called back, to make the actual appt. She was outside and well she will call them Monday and go in. Now I would say that it could be for cash out, ???

[rvers] Had chinese for dinner last night. This is what my fortune cookie said "Affirm it, visualize it, believe it, and it will actualize itself". That is what I am doing tonight. It's time to get this over with!

kazorlando] Good evening everyone.....have not been on today....hope everyone is doing well and had a great weekend. Yikes, another weekend and no RV!! I have read up on recaps and it appears all is still good. Tick, Tick, Tick....

youneverknow] kazorlando, yes all still good but what do you think about the one person who said it would take another week because of official votes in Iraq?

[kazorlando] youneverknow youneverknow I read that....depends on whether you believe the camp that says Iraq has nothing do with it or if you believe the camp that states Iraq needs to get their stuff together before it can rv...take your pick..either way, we wait!!

[laurelei] it will be very interesting to see if we ever learn what has been happening behind the scenes, I'm so curious

[HeIsFaithful] just getting money won't change "poor" we have to learn how to think wealthy...otherwise the money won't last and "poor" will come knocking on your door again.

[laurelei]  if you choose to only persue the negative possiblities, it may be time to take a break from the chats. It gets frustrating from everyone without breaks from time to time

 [laurelei] Personally, I prefer to look at the forward progress that has been made

Moonchild29] laurelei I do not think we understand enough about what is going on to know whether we are progressing or we are stalled. I am certain that it has nothing to do with Iraq but I do not know who or what is determining the RVs

Moonchild29] I think I know who does the button pushing but not who tells that person what to do or why

[laurelei] Moonchild29 good point

[Moonchild29] the problem is that the people who really make the decisions stay in the shadows and we really know little to nothing about them or their motivations

[GJHHonor] Banks are closed tomorrow here in Canada, it is Victoria Day holiday.

[snuggs101] collie so this is REALLY good for us right?

collie] snuggs101 they postponed the tariffs last year..they need it for revenue and for trade.........that seems to me we are closer IMO but would like other's to comment to.

[collie] snuggs101 the article also said they need it to create employment and that means businesses coming in and don't think they will want to at the present rate of their currency.

laurelei] collie agree...

phase2] m00nbaby777 BGG said he may give a call tonight, but, evidently has not confirmed that or given a time.

[.dinarmama7] OKay, so many have called OKIE our modern day Moses for this transfer of wealth. But remember this, Moses led the people out of Egypt. They mumbled, grumbled and complained and did not believe and wandered around out there for 40 years. When they were across the river from the Promised Land, 12 spies were sent in to spy out the land. 10 came back w/an evil report and they believed them.

 [.dinarmama7] Two came back w/a good report and they were the only ones who entered the Promised Land. So I say, OKIE is our Joshua, not Moses. He will take us into the Promised Land.

 [.dinarmama7] Many now believe the evil reports out there. How many of us believe the good reports that OKIE gives us. Just food for thought.

: Precious] Bank Holiday Memorial Day Weekend ~ Saturday, May 26th - Monday, May 28th

[Precious] hmmm.... closed 2 days for Memorial day??? new one

BOBGETZ CHAT FROM MIG, 20 MAY


mimi3] what about Maliki?

[pjs] hub the whole maliki thing is looking really good

[pjs] mimi3 Its looking like there gonna get the votes to get him out

[hub] mimi3 looks like the process to remove his is moving, but my question is as late as some articles get to us, has this started already or maybe even finished already, i dont know

[mimi3] hub let's hope and pray!!

[BOBGETZ6] hub I heard yesterday from a good source that this has been done.

hub] mimi3 if he has been the problem, get him out. the other leaders or a couple have said they would implement the programs immediately if given the chance, so they may get the chance quickly

[pjs] BOBGETZ6 I hope your source is right no one else's ever is

[mimi3] BOBGETZ6 I heard the dong had been taken out of the basket and would rv tomorrow?then dinar Tuesday!! But we have been down that road many times
[hub] BOBGETZ6 i was kinda thnkin this might already be done, just the thought that we would get a play by play of the description of something so important to iraq just seems out of place, just my worthless opinon

[BOBGETZ6] pjs Well, this is a very good source and they have been both right and wrong. I think that with him being one, today late, may be the day.

[BOBGETZ6] mimi3 I heard that also. I hope so.

[hub] mimi3 i hope that is right, bring on....................eeehhhhaaawwww

mimi3] BOBGETZ6 BOBGETZ6 what rate did you hear on dong?

[BOBGETZ6] mimi3 Vietnam, for all practical purposes, is really China. China purchased billions of dollars worth of businesses and banks. With that, there is not much left of Vienam business wise as they are mostly labor and China can support a higher VND rate.

[BOBGETZ6] mimi3 .78 to .86 or something like that.

[mimi3] bobgetz6 wow

[mimi3] yep same

[BOBGETZ6] mimi3 I had heard much more than that but it was not even close to realistic.

[mimi3] I will be just fine with .78-.86

imi3] sadr isin line right behind M if he does not implement the erbil

[mimi3] hub me too!!

[peganded] BOBGETZ6 are you saying the vnd will rv at 78 - 86 cents!?

MED CHAT, 20 MAY

Med (10:34:44): SABAH EL KHEER DS

stlou:  hey folks..state of law is saying that the other blocs can can't get enough votes for the withdrawal of confidence..

Med: CAN WHAT
stlou: but I doubt that
Med: WELL
stlou: happy b-day big guy

Med: IF YOU COUNT THE 39 SADRISTS
cheeks: happy birth day hoser
Med: AND THE 80 LIST  SHOKRAN TY  THAT TO ME IS 119 OR THE 163

stlou: hey med..just wondering..you think the SOL is counting the Sadr group as not voting for it, and counting it amongst their bloc?

Med: NO  TO ME THIS IS JUST THEM TRYING TO CAUSE DISSENTION BY CLAIMING WHATEVER THEY CAN SO THEY ALL LOOK AT EACH OTHER TO SEE WHO IS GOING TO SCREW THEM OVER THIS IS ALL IT IS I HAVE WATCHED THIS STATE OF LAW FOR THE LAST TWO YRS

stlou: i read that the group was working on their plan to move Iraq forward..all the while maintaining they will vote no confidence

Med: AND THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN THEM USING THE MEDIA TO CREATE PROBLEMS IT IS A LAST DITCH EFFORT TO SAVE FACE

stlou: it does seem..they have a plan to get this country back on it's feet

Med: YES THEY DO

stlou: maybe they grew a set?

Med: THE LIST HAD A GREAT PLAN WHEN THEY RAN ALL MALIKI HAD WAS HIM USING THE SHIITE CARD AND THEN USING THE BAATHIST CARD AGAINST THE OTHER BLOCS

stlou: ahh..an arab race-baiter?

Med: BY ARRESTING AND CLAIMING THEY WERE GOING TO OVERTHROW THE GOVT YES THIS TYPE OF POLITICS WAS COMMON IN THE 20'S AND 30'S AND THEY JUST HAVE NEVER UPDATED IT WHEN YOU DONT HAVE ANY CARDS TO PLAY YOU HIT THE MEDIA AND TRY ANYTHING YOU CAN

stlou: arab politics  101

Med: THEY NEED TO UPDATE THEIR AMERICAN HISTORY BOOKS THAT IS THE PROBLEM TWO YRS AGO I SAID I REFUSED TO PAY ATTENTION TO ANY POST BY THE STATE OF LAW AND I HAVE NOT CHANGED MY MIND

stlou: i see the blocs are meeting again today?

Med: GREAT TY THAT IS GREAT NEWS MEANS THEY ARE NOT SITTING ON THIS WAITING FOR WHO IS LEFT IN THE NA TO MAKE SOME REPLY THE SADRISTS WANT MALIKI OUT AND SADR IS NOT SITTING IDLE

stlou: they are anticipating Maliki not doing anything in the 10 days allotted him

Med: THERE IS NO 10 DAYS THE IRAQI LIST STATED TODAY THAT NO EXTENSION WAS GIVEN AND THIS WAS ON ALSUMARIA TV  A VERY REPUTABLE NEWS AGENCY

stlou: then maybe this talk of "10 days" is nothing more than what it takes for Najfafi to get the parliament back in session to vote?

Med: THERE WAS NO 10 DAYS GUARDIAN JUST POSTED IT

stlou: gotta go read that..bbiab

Med: OK IF YOU DONT BELEIVE ME  LOL

SpankyI: http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...iki-government

Med: http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...d=1#post123731  LOL


 Med: I AM HANDICAPPED NOW A BIT SLOWER     I CAN ONLY USE 6 OF 10 FINGERS

yukon: morning med looks like the start of a goo day

SpankyI: poor thing

yukon: good lol

Med: YES IT IS

SpankyI:  http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...y-January-2013 I LIKE THIS POST TO U GO GIRL GUARDIAN(F)

Med: YES SO DID I SPANKY  SHE IS TWO FOR TWO

SpankyI: that put all them dates to rest lol

Med: YES THAT IS WHAT I SAID IN MY POST

ADDITIONAL CHAT ADDED HERE 9:04 AM CDT BY KSDUNLAP

busman (13:52:47):  http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...747#post123747

read that post before anyone yells at me, came out of the gazzett

russell: dont like that post busman

Med (14:04:58): HI GANG  RUSSELL WHAT DONT YOU LIKE ABOUT IT TO ME PERSONALLY I HAD A HMMMMMM  THAT AFTER 9 YRS OF SELLING DINAR IN THE U.S.

russell: med it did not sound to good

Med: BY MANY COMPANIES HOW PLEASE EXPLAIN LETS LOOK AT IT AND GIVE ME YOUR OPINION

Proceeded Website U.S. economic process the sale and purchase of the Iraqi dinar to the other foreign currencies.

TO ME THIS SAYS THE DINAR IS BEING SOLD TO BASICALLY ANYONE WHO HAS A TRADEABLE FOREIGN CURRENCY

russell: med maybe i miss read

Med: NO THIS IS THE FIRST LINE ANYONE AGREE WITH MY THINKING OR DISAGREE  PLEASE SPEAK UP

russell: agree

Newlife: OK

Med:  OK LET'S GO TO THE NEXT LINE

And knew the site itself as a company trading in currency registered with the U.S. State Department and the Ministry of Treasury and money services business, manages and owns the site www.ibuydinar.com.

OK TO ME  THIS IS JUST STATING THAT THERE IS A COMPANY TRADING IN CURRENCY AND IT IS REGISTERED WITH THE US TREASURY AND MIN OF TREASURY AND THE NAME OF THE SITE IS LISTED AM I RIGHT OR WRONG

russell: agree

Med: OK  NEXT LINE

And Zkralmouka that does not achieve any gains financial, or "get rich quick" scheme in advance as it is not an adviser and does not provide any investment advice.

OK TO ME IT IS SAYING HE IS NOT PROMISING ANYTHING  AND HE IS NOT AN INVESTMENT ADVISOR

Newlife: Right

Med: HE IS ONLY SELLING IT AM I RIGHT OR WRONG

russell: agree

Newlife: Right

Med: OK  NEXT LINE

He said: When you buy foreign currency (such as the Iraqi Dinar, Vietnamese Dong), this may involve the risk of total loss that may not suit all collectors.

TO ME THIS IS SAYING THIS IS A RISK AND ANY OR ALL OF WHAT YOU BUY YOU MAY LOSE IT ALL

Newlife: We know that Bur why was it but into the Gazzet at this time? After all these years?

Med: OK NEXT LINE

Stressing that the Iraqi dinar currency traded publicly in the global currency markets, and thus may be limited ability to replace them

TO ME THIS IS A TWISTED STATEMENT AND IT IS SAYING TO ME YOU BETTER BUY IT NOW OR YOU MAY NOT BE ABLE TO IN THE FUTURE AS AN INVESTMENT

NOW NEWLIFE I AM ASKING THE SAME ? THEY ARE JUST NOTICING IT NOW REMEMBER

busman "limited ability to replace them" this is what caught my attention

russell: med sorry misunderstood

Med:  ***  OF THE DI**** ***** CLAIMS TO ALWAYS BUY HIS DINAR  FROM THE TRADE BANK OF IRAQ

dinarsformeandhim: mine to busman

Newlife: To me it sounds like Iraq may have limited abillity to buy it back

Med: WHICH IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE CENTRAL BANK OF IRAQ SO THEY PICK ON A RELATIVELY UNKNOWN TRADER

Newlife: I hope I am wrong

Med: WHEN DT AND SAFE DINAR HAVE BEEN THE MAIN SELLERS OF DINAR BUT WHO IS THE ONE MAKING THE STATEMENT GANG THERE IS NO NAME WE DONT KNOW IF IT IS FROM CBI OR JUST SOME JOE BLOW AUTHOR IT DOESNT SAY ANONYMOUS

Jade: Maybe it's *** - incognito!! )

busman: they have a website

Med: YES BUT REMEMBER THEY DID NOT POST THIS SOMEONE IN THAT MEDIA OUTLET DID THEY PICKED IT UP AND POSTED IT

busman: i know

buckaroo: Yes im looking at the site now .. Morning DS

Med: NOW WHAT IF THEY POSTED ***'S WHERE IT CLAIMS THAT IF THE DINAR REACHED PAST HISTORY OF THE $3 PLUS WOULD YOU FEEL BETTER AND ON HIS SITE

busman: why didn't they is my ?, like you said been selling for years

Med: IT STATES OR REFERS TO THE PO 133303 AND ALSO THE CPA ORDER 38 AS WHY WE CAN HAVE DINAR HONESTLY GANG IF YOU WANT TO BEAT YOURSELF UP OVER A TRADER BEING IN THE GAZETTE GO FOR IT

buckaroo: Med this site has only beeg registered with the US tres sinse April 12

Med: BUT I DONT REALLY CARE

(Happy Birthdays to Med)

Med: NOW HE BUYS DINAR CORRECT

mailman17: HAPPY BIRTHDAY POPS.....BUT I FIGURED YOU WOULD HAVE STOPPED COUNTING A FEW YEARS AGO....OLD PEOPLE DO THAT YOU KNOW

Med: TY MM17  I DID

busman: yes

Med: SO HOW OLD AM I

mailman17: 56

jesse888: 54

Med: THINK ABOUT IT IF IT IS SUCH A RISK WHY IS HE BUYING IT  MAKES ME GO HMMMM

glo123: 29 holding

Med: SAME AS IN IRAQ  IF IT IS SUCH A RISK

busman: imited ability to replace them

Med: WHY ARE MONEY CHANGERS BUYING IT UP ON THE STREET IT IS A PLOY BUSMAN TO SCARE YOU INTO SELLING SO HE IS DOING YOU A FAVOR SINCE WHEN DOES ANY BUSINESSMAN DO ANYONE A FAVOR

busman: i have some to sell, to

Med: ARE THEY NOT OUT TO LOSE MONEY

busman: atthe right price,lol

tudor: not working on me, only selling when it is worth something

Med: AM I RIGHT OR WRONG IT ISNT ME EITHER

busman: yes

buckaroo: Correct Med

Med: SEE WHEN YOU SIT BACK AND TAKE IT LINE BY LINE AND THEN DISCUSS IT AND LOOK AT IT

russell: med thanks for explaining

Med: YW