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Saturday, May 19, 2012

MIG CHAT , 19 MAY

eleanor] the original plan I was told was for M to stay and announce erbil etc,
If they indeed gave a no confidence vote and M is replaced by someone and that someone has to announce the erbil etc then I think there is a seven day delay.
( that's what I've been told)

cherryberry] eleanor IYO do you think certaining developments took place with Erbil and we are just waiting on the good news?

[eleanor] cherryberry event have taken place with erbil hcl and everything else long ago just have to have it announce by the proper authority

[pat888] eleanor you might be right, but food for thought...over at the ptr free forum here's what Maven1 said on 5/14..."Possible 3 day grace period after the no confidence vote before it is finalized. Since they are setting up to name an interim PM from the same party (within the NA) no elections are required which helps them move quickly. Either Talabani or Chalabi as interim PM will move to implement Erbil the moment Maliki is officially out. Which could be this week. The good doctor will RV after Erbil and the power sharing is announced. Which could be this week.

eleanor] pat888 Believe me,I hope they're right

[pat888] eleanor me too!

DEEP INTEL DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE, 19 MAY

05/19/2012
  Deep Intel Down The Rabbit Hole 5-19-12

This is a HOT Intel tidbit which just came in. Sourced from Iraq and
Financial Traders NY.

The Final Holdup for the Dinar RV was Malaki who refused to sign off the
RV. Malaki was placed in his position by the Bush Dark Cabal. He received
a vote of 'no-confidence' by the Iraq government. The news said he
resigned but was actually forcefully removed by the military.

RV WILL PROCEED THIS WEEKEND.

Also hearing that funds have been transferred and in place for the
Cash-In.

Hearing "Rumors" of Dinar Cashing In proceeding via tiers with the Fat
Cats, Whales and Government People already done. The "We The People" are
next in line.

 WE IS READY FOLKS. LET THE BLESSINGS FLOW!

 JMH
 Telling It Like It Is!

DOVE POST, 19 MAY

At the written request of Dove credit for the Lakota Story belongs to Jim Tressel, the Author 

Dove] Okay, in my best teacher voice... good evening class... your new word for the day is woohitike (wo-oh-hee-tee-keh) ..... 

Woohitike or bravery is one of the central virtues or values of the Lakota Sioux ... They believe we all have it in us to be brave, that each of us can defend the camp when necessary... 

Life will give us the opportunity, issuing the invitation to the contest and as time goes on, we will be shaped and strengthened by our challenges. Whether we can win each time or not, we will be tempered by adversity.   

The ancient Lakota hunter warriors handcrafted their own bows from seasoned ash wood. There were two ways to acquire proper wood.

The conventional way was to find a young ash tree, harvest it and let it dry for at least five years. But the hunter warriors were always on the lookout for a mature ash tree that had been struck by lightning.  

Such a tree had been dried and cured in an instant by the power of the lightning, and any bows made from it would be much stronger. Such trees were rare, but they were preferred because they had suffered the ultimate adversity.... and ultimate adversity produces ultimate strength... 

Many have borne adversity in the recent years and months ... and one day, because you are an over-comer, you will find a raw, rare strength in your core being that will take you far for many others in the days ahead. 
(the end of the word lesson today class) 

[Dove] some people have no idea of the tempering worked in us through this dinar season in our lives... it was encouraging to again look at the perspective of what is worked within us while we press in without giving up...

POPPY POST UPDATE, 19 MAY

6:28 PM [poppy3] rich friends just ran home to update you on what sounds to be great NEWS... Now we are working fast to try and confirm information . 

I received a call that stated there is a meeting that has taken place in washington yesterday and it involved several high level peeps that i can't mention at this time. They were told of a change in the administration in iraq and that many political changes would become apparent within the next few day.

 Sorry nothing was made very explicit at this time but this was a special called meeting after the arrival of a high level representative from iraq arrived here and requested permission to update o and staff. 
Stay tuned when they call me back i will come in and update. Asap they are going to call me back as soon as they get concrete information. Poppy3 
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[poppy3] Urgent. Iraq: Iraqi leaders and Mr. Sadr agreed to withdraw confidence in Maliki Baghdad: Euphrates news} on the Iraqi list MP Hassan shoird Al-Hamadani said Iraqi leaders and the Kurdistan Alliance met with sadrist leader Moqtada Sadr today. Al-Hamadani said in a statement today {Euphrates news} "the meeting discussed the decision-making and reaching the final results emerged for this meeting",

plus "reactions of the Government and what will be taken during the next few days from important decisions concerning the political situation in Iraq." He noted that "all the leaders agree to withdraw confidence while not responding to what was agreed at the meeting of the five leaders in Erbil". Political sources had confirmed the existence of side meetings between political leaders in Najaf ended 2. http://www.microsofttran ··· mid%3D54

 12:07 PM [poppy3] Wheres My RV? According to their own figures released back last dec. Their budget is figured on $3.41 cents so it will be at least that amount. Remember follow the money and the man with our money is dr shabibi and he has said several time their money will be the highest in the m/ east and at present that figure is $3.60 don't worry about rate or listen to the peeps giving any definite rate they don't have a clue. Poppy3
sully] Many peeps say we don't need Parliament to get this done but how else do we get the 163 + votes for withdrawal of confidence without calling parliament in. I am assuming someone has precalculated the votes and it will be a lock on no confidence.

poppy3] newmonies ok i didn't lose my source because i posted about the meeting sunday of the fab five he said it was his mistake to tell me not to post it and it showed up on recaps already now anyway. yes they will be meeting tomorrow and making plans for post mailki gov.

Like I said they are moving fast and have given themselves the 10 day deadline to get all the nine subjects completed. hang on rich friends all is well in dinar land. POPPY3

[newmonies] poppy3 alright!!! had me worried poppy..

[sully] Is it conclusively crystal clear that malarki is gone.

[newmonies] sully its just like any other situation... if the right people want you out... you’re out!!! doesnt matter about the votes... they "PTB" will make it look like they had the votes...

[poppy3] newmonies did me also but he called about 30 min ago and said not to worry it was his mistake. We just knew about 24 hours early lol,lol now sdar has announced it himself.    i feel much better. Poppy3

[newmonies] me2 brother... glad it worked out...

[sully] newmonies So the Constitution gets tossed if they want him out without the 163+ votes. Just curious is all.

[SWFloridaGuy] poppy3 That's when you know you have a good contact.  

poppy3] talked to bgg about a hour ago and he had just left down town chicago and missed the drive by's ?? He is back on the interstate headed north and should get to the cabin in a couple hours. Keep him in your prayers for a safe journey. He will update as soon as he gets settled. Poppy3

[newmonies] Talabani will present paper demand the withdrawal of confidence in Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to the House of Representatives this week !!!!!

[DOUBLE B] BAM

[SWFloridaGuy] newmonies That's what I'm talking about!! 

[poppy3] newmonies expect that vote within 48 hours after the request goes in and a national conference as fast as possible after that for the assignment of interum pm and implimentation of pending projects. At least this is how the news is lining up. Poppy3

[sully] poppy3 TY for that, answers my question.

[poppy3] i am through for the night .. I have to prepare for church in the morning .. Add one more close friend to our prayer list frank has just been diagnosed with cancer . I will dance with all of you very soon have a very blessed night poppy3


SOONERFAN CHAT, 19 MAY

[soonerfan62] Good Evening everyone, hope everyone is having a great weekend

[daniandquin] soonerfan62 so tell us something that energizes the castle and makes us smile!!!!

[soonerfan62] OK You own Dinar

soonerfan62] Guys info was dead until about 2 o'clock then non stop, but let me assure none of the intel providers are going to do anything to delay it again, read between the lines 

soonerfan62] Foot say a lot today and if you were paying attention like I was and reading between the lines, he said a lot 

sunsfan] soonerfan62 ...hopefully that info is positive... 

soonerfan62] sunsfan Oh absolutely, no negative at all, but lots of BS   

[Angel] daniandquin can someone post link or something for what FF said? 

[daniandquin] Angel sorry darlin- no one captured it :>( I wasn't here either so I cant' even give yo the gist 

[jmh] soonerfan62 Been working all day. Didn't see what foot said, but I take it from your comments if was good stuff and we are about to finish this deal up. Correct??? 

[sunsfan] soonerfan62 ...thanks for coming in...this silence is torture....thanks again I think from most of us  

[soonerfan62] jmh Correct 

[1biz4u] soonerfan62 so the fact they may be replacing Maliki, doesn't matter one hill of beans to our RV coming ASAP? 

[soonerfan62] 1biz4u Correct, my famous saying " DON't Care" 

[BLPastor] soonerfan62 I'm praying this is our last weekend. 

soonerfan62] BLPastor Believe it is but have said that a few times before LOL 

[BLPastor] soonerfan62 I know, but I really believe this is the last one.

[soonerfan62] BLPastor Me too buddy  

[youneverknow] Well I am glad the information gatherers do not want to spoil the chance for RV, my husbands question is: will the replacment of Maliki hold things up? 

[prissynell] soonerfan when you come in here our spirits lift

[jmark10] youneverknow replacement of Maliki will speed things up IMO 

[youneverknow] TY jmark, but is there a chance they will delay based on how long they take to pick a new PM?  

1biz4u] youneverknow has nothing to do with RV! Ask soonerfan62. 

 [BLPastor] Is it my imagination, or are the Iraq news people and the bankscreen people finally coming together in agreement? 

[keiji] soonerfan62 Has the news got better since yesterday or is it still the same? TY

[soonerfan62] keiji Better

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 19 MAY

5-19-2012  Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy   Looks like we may have reached a turning point. The meeting in Najaf today has produced a breakthrough where 2 documents have been signed. An official spokesperson just announced that they have finally reached "BIG" and "DECISIVE" results, and in the next 2 days we will witness the outcome of these decisions. 

5-19-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   According to their own figures released back last Dec., Their budget is figured on $3.41 so it will be at least that amount. Remember follow the money and the man with our money is Dr Shabibi and he has said several time their money will be the highest in the m/east and at present that figure is $3.60. Don't worry about rate or listen to the peeps giving any definite rate they don't have a clue.

5-19-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG   The most interesting news of the day is there was a “mini-summit” meeting of the Erbil 5 today in Najaf...they just aren’t saying what happened. There could be a lot of reasons for the secrecy...(possibly an additional “secret” meeting tomorrow).  Maliki wasn’t even invited – no matter what his PR goons are spouting.

5-19-2012  Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3   they are scrambling to set the course for making changes. Sadr stated last night they will move to replace Maliki. SADR & TALIBANI don't play games, they will be deliberate in their actions and it appears they have their mind made up that Maliki is out. They are not listening to any of his requests for face to face meeting and are moving forward. This is the most limbo of this process we have been in and yet I think it may be our best position in three years. 

5-19-2012  Newshound Guru Mailman17  MALIKI WAS GIVEN A DATE...HE SAID SCREW IT...I REALLY THINK THE BIG 5 WAS THINKING...MAYBE HE WOULD HAVE COME TO HIS SENSES.  PLAN B...THEY MUST DO THIS ACCORDINGLY AND TO IRAQI LAW.   THEY...HAVE TOLD PARLIAMENT TO BE READY FOR AN EMERGENCY SESSION.  WE ALSO KNOW THEY HAVE THE VOTES NEEDED.  THEY HAVE STATED THEY WILL NOT NO VOTE HIM....BUT HAVE A REPLACEMENT WHEN THE TIME COMES. OVER THE WEEKEND...JUST LOOK FOR NEWS REGARDING PARLIMENT...THIS IS SEALED JUST GOTTA DO IT RIGHT.  THE RV WILL COME...BUT IRAQ IS BETTER OFF WITH THE RV WITHOUT MALIKI, JUST ASK SHABS.

5-19-2012  Intel Guru Footforward  IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT IRAQI NEWS. IRAQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. HE, MALIKI, WILL GO BY THE WAY SIDE AFTER THINGS ARE OK.  IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A YEAR AGO...LAST JUNE-2011 BUT IT DIDN'T.  SHABIBI CAME OUT AND SAID IT WOULD RV IN THAT TIME FRAME LAST YEAR.   I CHOOSE TO STICK IT OUT AND REAP THE BLESSING WHENEVER IT COMES. I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THIS. WE CANT WRITE OFF ANY TIME OR ANY DATE.   ALL THE INFO IS POSITIVE...THINGS ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD!

KAPERONI & BL CHAT, 19 MAY

12:08 PM [kaperoni] ok so i come by to bring some good juice
12:08 PM [Shredd] we talkin abot exec order 13303

12:09 PM [kaperoni] i got some more good juice
12:09 PM [BondLady] cia report

12:09 PM [kaperoni] This is another Gem from Tgirl
12:09 PM [kaperoni] I have been stating for years no LOP

12:10 PM [BondLady] me to

12:10 PM [kaperoni] and recently these good article are out that IMO confirm the one the other say to me clearly said 1000 dinar will remain 1000 dinar  just like Dr. Fadel and Dr. Bakri said

12:11 PM [kaperoni] so  today this one comes out House of Representatives of the fear of corruption associated with raising the zeros Currency  let me show you a few quotes...

12:12 PM [BondLady] i have that art kappy  it is a good 1

12:13 PM [kaperoni] He explained that "those who stand deduced from the change are the currency on the interest that they would gain economic situation in Iraq when replacing paper reviews the category of 1000 dinars to one of category 1 dinar, which means that the money supply would remain the same with a different class."

12:13 PM [kaperoni] My view of this is that quote is saying that those who have researched this, have realized they will gain economically from this. They also give us the nugget that tells us that they only way they can reduce the money supply is to collect the 3 zero notes in advance (which is what they are doing) as the quote says that this process on it's own does not reduce the money supply.

12:14 PM [kaperoni] now

12:14 PM [BondLady] yes

12:14 PM [Shredd] yes, good.....

12:14 PM [kaperoni] "Economists and shows that the process of removing three zeros from the Iraqi currency will lead to increased value, and to increase the purchasing power of citizens, pointing to the need to pursue policies to persuade the citizens quiet and get used to it for a period not exceeding two years. "

s12:15 PM [kaperoni] Well that pretty much tells it all  increase in purchasing power  i done

12:15 PM [BondLady] but yet kap they keep on floodin more usd in iraq, u see the art yesterday says for the cbi to just go ahead an sell iqd to the people since they prefer it so much over the iqd

12:20 PM [cat] kap does wyo play into this

12:20 PM [BondLady] On May 3, 2007, the IMF released a statement in relation to the international compact with Iraq, which has turned the tide in regards to speculation on the Iraq dinar. The contents of the article discuss changes made in Iraq on the economic front of how the Iraq government had eliminated fuel subsidies. 

The article also stated that the Central Bank of Iraq had raised interest rates in an attempt to allow a gradual appreciation of the dinar in an attempt to fight dollarization of the Iraq economy. Although there are claims of widespread optimism of some language used later in the press release among some dinar speculators, there have been no publicly released statements or analysis by any news sources or governments.[5]

12:21 PM [cat] wto

12:21 PM [kaperoni] well it does yes   iraq needs accession badly  to open the doors  in iraqs but they wont get it  unless they get this stuff in place

12:22 PM [BondLady] Between October 15, 2003 and January 15, 2004, the Coalition Provisional Authority issued new Iraqi dinar coins and notes, with the notes printed by De La Rue using modern anti-forgery techniques, to "create a single unified currency that is used throughout all of Iraq and will also make money more convenient to use in people’s everyday lives."[3]

 Old banknotes were exchanged for new at a one-to-one rate, except for the Swiss dinars, which were exchanged at a rate of 150 new dinars for one Swiss dinar. These new banknotes led to a new industry of selling the new Iraqi dinar to oversea investors who hoped to profit from Iraq's new currency when the economy improved. 

The provisional government of Iraq has made this legal, but the banknotes are exchanged at different rates by companies wanting to make profit. Due to the success of this program, though, Iraqi dinar has been widely counterfeited. However, there are six different security features on the 25,000 Iraqi dinar note that one can check for authenticity.[4]

12:16 PM [BondLady] ty kap

12:16 PM [kaperoni] that was good too

12:16 PM [BondLady] for talkin about that art

12:16 PM [kaperoni] you take all the info we have

12:16 PM [BondLady] shredd was talkin about the pres exec order kap

12:16 PM [kaperoni] from the original plan from dr. fadel

12:17 PM [BondLady] and he posted the new renewal of it a min ago

12:17 PM [kaperoni] to the research paper of dr. bakri

12:17 PM [kaperoni] to the World Bank gal

12:17 PM [kaperoni] and now this

12:17 PM [kaperoni] it is very compelling

12:19 PM [BondLady] love this part......These new banknotes led to a new industry**** of selling the new Iraqi dinar ******to oversea investors******** who*** hoped to profit**** from Iraq's new currency****** when the economy improved. ***********The provisional government of Iraq has made this legal,**********(and so did our president bush, when he signed the pressidentual order allowing all american citizens tobe able to invest in iraq..BL) but the banknotes are exchanged at different rates by companies wanting to make profit.

12:23 PM [kaperoni] good stuff

12:23 PM [BondLady] so with the presidentual order obama just renewed

12:23 PM [kaperoni] thanks for letting me visit

12:24 PM [Shredd] always welcome kap

12:24 PM [BondLady] combine that with........These new banknotes led to a new industry of selling the new Iraqi dinar to oversea investors who hoped to profit from Iraq's new currency when the economy improved. The provisional government of Iraq has made this legal, but the banknotes are exchanged at different rates by companies wanting to make profit. Due to the success of this program, t...........then we see no matter what they cant just shut us out at rv time

12:25 PM [BondLady] The provisional government of Iraq has made this legal,

12:25 PM [BondLady] ty kappy come again any time

12:26 PM [kaperoni] bye all

12:27 PM [BondLady] my historical and interesting stuff thread has a lot of diff stuff in it for any 1 who wants to ck it out every thing i just showed yall is in that thread also

12:28 PM [BondLady] same as the oil and gold boom town stuff those things apply right now to whats happenin in Iraq   the reconstruction the inflation every thing

12:29 PM [BondLady] read that an u know what to expect

12:29 PM [tlm724] BondLady alot of arts in the past few days about developement

12:29 PM [BondLady] yes

12:29 PM [BondLady] all goes right back to a oil boom  buildings and towns grow up and appear almost over night   inflation hits hard  lots of stuff from the past does exact same stuff in Iraq thats why i made those two threads oil an gold booms

NEWS, RUMORS AND ARTICLES, 19 MAY







NEWS, RUMORS AND ARTICLES

5-19-2012 Finance Committee: Starting in July oil revenue sharing plan will allocate 25% of Iraq's oil profits to citizens. Guidelines and mechanisms have been developed for the distribution ratio of 25 percent of the abundance of Finance of oil revenues among citizens, according to the law of the Federal budget for the current year.  Calculations start in July.


5-19-2012 Sykes: Efforts were made ​​by the Iraqi National List in the last few days to withdraw confidence from Maliki by collecting signatures from within the House of Representatives. They failed to collect the 163 votes needed to block confidence in the Prime Minister. The political blocs fear it's complexity due to the lack of a suitable replacement.

5-19-2012 Hub: Just watching a country's economic structure being formed while we are interested in it, is a college edcuation in itself.  The only thing I have personally, is the knowledge of how it should happen and its following the model to a T.  No one can go around the process, because it always comes back to center.  I think this is the reason for so many delays but the fact remains, to compete in a global economy, they have to have a currency worth their country's value and cannot stay at the artificial number for long.  If Maliki should be allowed to remain and become a true dictator, there is no telling what he would do.  At that point Iraq would lose all respect and the dinar could do whatever and would remain worthless.  THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN.  So all I can say is, hold on, I think we are there and we should be happy very soon.


5-19-2012 Mailman17: MALIKI WAS GIVEN A DATE, HE SAID SCREW IT.  I REALLY THINK THE BIG 5 WAS THINKING, MAYBE HE WOULD HAVE COME TO HIS SENSES.  PLAN B, THEY MUST DO THIS ACCORDINGLY AND TO IRAQI LAW.   THEY HAVE TOLD PARLIAMENT TO BE READY FOR AN EMERGENCY SESSION.  WE ALSO KNOW THEY HAVE THE VOTES NEEDED.  THEY HAVE STATED THEY WILL NOT NO VOTE HIM BUT HAVE A REPLACEMENT WHEN THE TIME COMES. OVER THE WEEKEND JUST LOOK FOR NEWS REGARDING PARLIMENT.  THIS IS SEALED, JUST GOTTA DO IT RIGHT.  THE RV WILL COME BUT IRAQ IS BETTER OFF WITH THE RV WITHOUT MALIKI, JUST ASK SHABS.


5-19-2012 Poppy3: According to their own figures released back last Dec. Their budget is figured on $3.41 so it will be at least that amount. Remember follow the money and the man with our money is Dr Shabibi and he has said several time their money will be the highest in the m/east and at present that figure is $3.60.  Don't worry about rate or listen to the peeps giving any definite rate they don't have a clue.

5-19-2012 Poppy3: The 10 days deadline is now for themselves to get things implemented is what I am being told still trying to confirm.  This isn't a Maliki deadline, it is one they have placed on themselves.  All the fab five have set another meeting for Sunday also.   So, at this point I am not sure if this meeting this evening is the Sunday meeting they have moved up or is just another extra meeting. Yesterday the S.S. contact said they had the schedule showing the Sunday meeting and didn't mention this meeting today.  Either way it is sounding very good that they are in a hurry.


5-19-2012 Najaf: Today a new proposal includes a deadline of 10 days for each point of the nine points for their implementation. A proposal will be put out at a meeting of leaders of political blocs in Najaf involves giving a 10 day deadline for implementation of all nine of the points that were agreed upon at the second meeting of Erbil.  The proposal will be presented at a meeting of leaders of political blocs include giving notice of 10 days to implement all nine of the points.  In the event of non-implementation of these points, things tend to withdraw confidence from the Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.  The start of the meeting of leaders of political blocs to be held at 5pm tonight.

5-19-2012 Chattels (Excerpts from Wang Dang chat): Erbil should happen very soon and we need to start really looking closely for Shab to give us our 86 cents because Allawi has promised it will take 3 days for him to seat his ministers and then the new pm has to announce the GOI is complete and then full blown RV.  We have Maliki saying he will implement all of erbil and we also have the national alliance saying that they are ready to give m a no confidence vote.  So, either WAY.  They have stated in open that Erbil is constitutional.  His party that combined wants to get rid of him.  The groups have more then the half needed to push the vote of no confidence and Parliment is on stand BY.  Maliki does not have to be there for a no confidence vote from Parliment.


5-19-2012 Sadr: Will meet today with Kurds, Iraqi List, and National Alliance parties to discuss crisis.  They are meeting today in the Najaf province to discuss the withdrawl of confidence from Maliki and said this meeting is complementary to the meeting in Erbil.

5-19-2012 World Bank: Mission in Iraq was set up for the purpose of checking on the efficiency of Iraq's banking sector.

5-19-2012 Poppy3: BGG and I and a few of our sources all think we are closer today to seeing a completion than we have ever been. We feel it may run even into early June but they will try and finish before the June 1 date.  They are facing tarriffs, need the rest of the budget finished, the tarriff are one of the steps to the WTO and the RV will automatically take them out of chapter 7 and allow them to become full members of the WTO. Lots looking very good for us.

5-19-2012 Wang Dang: Saturday morning conference call.  Today 11am est.  530-881-1300  PIN: 911968

5-19-2012 Hammerman: Conference Call PLAYBACK.  530-881-1399 PIN 928134#

HUB POST, 19 MAY


5-19-2012 Hub: Just watching a country's economic structure being formed while we are interested in it, is a college edcuation in itself.  The only thing I have personally, is the knowledge of how it should happen and its following the model to a T.  No one can go around the process, because it always comes back to center.  I think this is the reason for so many delays but the fact remains, to compete in a global economy, they have to have a currency worth their country's value and cannot stay at the artificial number for long.  If Maliki should be allowed to remain and become a true dictator, there is no telling what he would do.  At that point Iraq would lose all respect and the dinar could do whatever and would remain worthless.  THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN.  So all I can say is, hold on, I think we are there and we should be happy very soon.

TERRYK CHAT, 19 MAY

TERRYK] WHO WAS TALKING ABOUT BLACK CABLE LAST NIGHT  I MISSUNDERSTOOD, I THOUGHT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A GROUP

BUT BLACK CABLE IS THE COMMUNICATION LINE GOING FROM EUROPE TO THE USA
WAS THINKING ABOUT IT

IN FACT WAS DREAMING ABOUT IT, I REMEMBER BACK IN THE DAY OF TELECOMUNNICATIONS WHERE WE HAD TO HAVE ACCESS TO BLACK CABLE
AND IT WAS $$$$$$$  BIG TIME I THOUGHT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GROUP NOT A PHYSICAL ITEM

[TERRYK] NO THEY WERE SAYING SOME SITE WAS HOLDING IT UP THE RV
AND THAT'S WHY I THOUGHT THEY WERE REFERING TO A GROUP
TERRYK] THERE ARE LIKE THREE SPIN OFFS OF THE OLD KNIGHT TEMPLOR THAT HAVE THE WORD BLACK IN IT  AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERING TO.
VERY STRONG $$$$ GROUPS

[TERRYK] SO I SEE ALOT OF ARTICLES THIS MORNING A LOT OF NEWS THAT THEY ARE SERIOUS ABOUT DOING THIS JUST WHEN IS THE QUESTION

[cjswest]TerryK, hi, i think blaino and hammerman were talking black cabal

[bjj (Barb)] cjswest , gm, black cabal or cable?

[TERRYK] I THOUGHT THEY SAID CABAL AT FIRST THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERING TO BUT WAS DREAMING THEY WERE REFERING TO CABLE

[TERRYK] I'M ALL CONFUSED MUST BE THE WATERMELON I'M EATING

[cjswest] bjj (Barb) cabal , not a cord , but strong organization

[cjswest] bjj (Barb) War Breaks Out Within the United States - White Hats vs. Black Cabal is on google search,

[TERRYK] OH NOW I'M A SIDETRACK IT'S ALL GOOD JUST WANTED TO EXPLAIN WHY I SAID WHAT I DID  IT'S ALL GOOD

[TERRYK] I THINK IT'S MORE CONFUSING NOW THAN EVER

[TERRYK] WHO CARES WHO IS HOLDING IT UP REALLY

[TERRYK] WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT

[TERRYK] NOT LIKE WE ARE GOING TO SEND SOMEONE OVER TO THEIR OFFICE AND SAY LOOK GET OFF THE BUTTON

[TERRYK] WHY  AT THE END OF THE DAY

[TERRYK] WHY  IS THE QUESTION YOU NEED TO ASK YOURSELF

[TERRYK] WHY DOES IT MATTER

[TERRYK] IT WILL COME WHEN GOD WANTS US TO HAVE IT

[TERRYK] NOTHING YOU OR I CAN DO ABOUT IT....

[TERRYK] Nesara - New Financial System - audio youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/w ··· mvkzSryQ

[TERRYK] SORRY IF I CAME OF ROUGH  I'M AS FUSTRATED WITH THIS AS ANYONE
YEA LIKE 9 PLUS YEARS NOW  A LONG TIME  IN FACT I PURCHASED MY FIRST DINAR AND PUT IT AWAY AND FORGOT ABOUT IT

[TERRYK] I GOT TO PAY FOR THIS SITE HERE IN AUGUST.

[TERRYK] GRRRR ANOTHER $2,000

[Agent 007] oh the renewal of add-on chat?

[TERRYK] THAT AND THE OPTIONS WE HAVE .

[TERRYK] EVERYTHING IS UNLIMITED

[bjj (Barb)]TerryK, is that payment for the year?

[TERRYK] YEP

[TERRYK] I PRAY THIS RIDE IS NEAR IT'S END.

[Tradewind1] The iPhone is getting a bigger screen

[TERRYK] IM STILL USING THE DROID II

[TERRYK] ONE OF THE LARGEST SCREENS BUT SLOW COMPAIRED TO THE NEW ONES

[Agent 007] I just upgraded to the Sambung Note - love it - tablet cell

[Tradewind1] I like my iPad but not driving

[TERRYK] I HEARD THAT WAS SWEET

[TERRYK] I HAVE AN  ASUS PAD

[TERRYK] HAD TO BE DIFFERENT

[TERRYK] QUAD PROCESSORS

[TERRYK] AND FOR WHAT

[TERRYK] PLAY CARDS FASTER

[TERRYK] THATS WHAT I WAS TELLING EVERYONE THE OTHER DAY

[TERRYK] DOWNSIZE NOT UPSIZE MORE MEANS MORE HEADACHES   

[TERRYK] THEN I GO OUT AND BUY A MORTORCYCLE

[TERRYK] OK ALL TIME TO GET INTO THE HOT TUB

[TERRYK] BIG STORMS HERE LAST NIGHT

[TERRYK] THEN OFF TO THE MEETING

[TERRYK] GOD BLESS YOU ALL

TONY POST FROM PTR, 19 MAY


5-18-2012 Tony (PTR): There was an announcement last night in Iraq but no one can verify.  I am being told we reallly MAY SEE THIS TONIGHT between 3am and 5am.  I just received a call that there is a LIVE rate at the banks.  I can't disclose what bank or state.

Message -- Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to the Stabilization of Iraq


Message -- Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to the Stabilization of Iraq

Message -- Continuation of the National Emergency with Respect to the Stabilization of Iraq

TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES:
Section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)) provides for the automatic termination of a national emergency unless, within 90 days prior to the anniversary date of its declaration, the President publishes in the Federal Register and transmits to the Congress a notice stating that the emergency is to continue in effect beyond the anniversary date. In accordance with this provision, I have sent the enclosed notice to the Federal Register for publication continuing the national emergency with respect to the stabilization of Iraq. This notice states that the national emergency with respect to the stabilization of Iraq declared in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, as modified in scope and relied upon for additional steps taken in Executive Order 13315 of August 28, 2003, Executive Order 13350 of July 29, 2004, Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004, and Executive Order 13438 of July 17, 2007, is to continue in effect beyond May 22, 2012.
Obstacles to the orderly reconstruction of Iraq, the restoration and maintenance of peace and security in the country, and the development of political, administrative, and economic institutions in Iraq continue to pose an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States. Accordingly, I have determined that it is necessary to continue the national emergency with respect to this threat and maintain in force the measures taken to deal with that national emergency.
Recognizing positive developments in Iraq, my Administration will continue to evaluate Iraq's progress in resolving outstanding debts and claims arising from actions of the previous regime, so that I may determine whether to further continue the prohibitions contained in Executive Order 13303 of May 22, 2003, as amended by Executive Order 13364 of November 29, 2004, on any attachment, judgment, decree, lien, execution, garnishment, or other judicial process with respect to the Development Fund for Iraq, the accounts, assets, and property held by the Central Bank of Iraq, and Iraqi petroleum-related products, which are in addition to the sovereign immunity accorded Iraq under otherwise applicable law.
BARACK OBAMA

BWM CHAT, 19 MAY

[BWM] well reason 2590 that I don't say some things in chat... it appears that some of the "bad news" of the day didn't pan out...

[BWM] I'm still keeping tabs on that just in case... but the reasoning at least gives me hope it will not play a part in the big picture

[BWM] OH and BTW (that's By the Way if you're translating) if you have to come into a chat to post you're NOT talking... um, you sort of defeat the purpose... just saying

[BWM] oh yeah... and if I have to give you permission to post... that's prolly too late also

[punkin] Did you read Historian? BWM Too long but summary is not to say anything................go to Recaps and click on her name Historian

[BWM] punkin I got it... you just need to understand that certain ppl don't like to be talked about...

[JOHNNYcashin] BWM do think we can see this RV this month?

[BWM] JOHNNYcashin I'm not giving up on that anywhere close yet

[JOHNNYcashin] so call gurus are saying we will see the RV this week! What your take on than? BWM

[BWM] JOHNNYcashin well tomorrow is the last day of the week on my calendar... SOOOO, kinda running out of time for that... but never give up hope on a day until it's passed.. well, Friday's out this week

[tiffany] BWM Does that mean the RV is pushed out much further now?

[BWM] tiffany not unless you driving a grader.

FOOTFORWARD POST, 19 MAY

MAYBE I CAN JUMP IN HERE A MINUTE, GUYS.......... JONNY, OR ANY OF THE INTEL PROVIDERS FOR THAT MATTER, INCLUDING MYSELF, WILL BE HERE AS SOON AS THERE IS SOMETHING NEW TO SAY. YOU GUYS KNOW THAT THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD. JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T HEAR THAT FROM US FOR A FEW DAYS DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING HAS CHANGED. I KNOW JONNY HASN'T BEEN I’M NOT GOING TO TELL ANYONE TO RELAX BECAUSE IT IS STRESSFUL. BUT REALLY, HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU NEED TO TELL YOU WHERE THIS IS GOING? I CAN ALREADY TELL YOU JONNY, BELLA, SOONER, FREEWAY, STUDLEY, AND MANY OTHERS WILL TELL YOU WHAT I'M SAYING....

IT DOESN'T MATTER ABOUT IRAQI NEWS. IRAQ HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. HE, MALIKI, WILL GO BY THE WAY SIDE AFTER THINGS ARE OK.

THINGS ARE STILL MOVING FORWARD! JONNY IS NOT IGNORING ANYONE AND HASN'T FORGOTTEN YOU. JONNY ISN'T HERE, BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING NEW TO SAY RIGHT NOW...IT’S REALLY THAT SIMPLE. IT DOESN'T HELP THAT YOU HAVE...."PEOPLE" WHO WANT TO SHARE THEIR OPINIONS...BUT...YOU HAVE TO MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND ON WHAT TO BELIEVE. I KNOW ITS NICE TO HEAR THAT, AND HAVE THE REASSURANCE EVERY DAY, BUT IF THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN, IT DOESN'T MEAN THINGS ARE WRONG. JUST BECAUSE THINGS ARE SILENT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE SLACKING OFF, OR NOT WORKING ON THIS. WHEN I SAY WE HAVE IT COVERED, WE HAVE IT COVERED!

WE ARE MOVING INTO A NEW SYSTEM AND NEW POINT IN HISTORY, AND THINGS LIKE THIS ARE A BATTLE...PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP POWER SO EASILY. BUT I'M TELLING YOU THIS----TAKE IT OVER LEAVE IT....THINGS ARE MOVING FORWARD......EITHER WAY WE ARE ONE DAY CLOSER.

I DON'T LIKE WAITING OR BEING BROKE ANY MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.

I DON'T KNOW WHEN.... I DON'T KNOW THE DATE OR THE RATE BUT I KNOW IT'S COMING AND I BELIEVE ITS COMING RIGHT AWAY...I FEEL THAT IN MY HEART. IF I THOUGHT THIS WAS A LONG TIME OFF I WOULD TELL YOU GUYS. BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT. I FEEL I HEARD THE FLOOD GATES OPENING LAST NIGHT.

I CANT CONTROL HOW YOU THINK, BUT NO ONE IS PUSHING ANYTHING ON ANYONE. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT'S BRING BROUGHT TO THE TABLE, BRING SOMETHING ELSE. IF YOU HAVE NOTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO BRING THEN DON'T BRING ANYTHING AT ALL....I’M SIMPLY POINTING OUT THE FACT YOU MIGHT WANT TO MAKE BETTER WORD CHOICES AND WATCH HOW YOU TALK TO PEOPLE. IT IS WHAT IT IS. I'M SORRY I'VE BEEN WRONG EVERY TIME. THIS SHOULD HAVE GONE LAST JUNE-2011 BUT IT DIDN'T.

I DON'T MIND THE QUESTIONS, JUST THE PEOPLE WHO LIKE TO POINT FINGERS BUT CAN'T DO OR SAY ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE. WELL, SOME OF YOU LIKE ME AND SOME DON'T. EITHER WAY I HAVE TO BE AROUND..... I MEAN WE ALL SUFFER TOGETHER. WE ALL CARE. AND WE ARE IN THIS TOGETHER. WE MIGHT WE AS WELL MAKE THE BEST OF IT.

I WOULDN'T CUT THE UST OUT.... I CANT SEE THAT HAPPENING. CHINA HAS NO OIL AND THEY DON'T CONTROL THE WORLD'S OIL EITHER. THEY CONTROL A PORTION OF WF, NOT ALL OF IT. THE U.S. WON'T GO THROUGH CHINA FOR THEIR OIL IN THIS CURRENT SYSTEM. HOWEVER, WE ARE ABOUT TO GO TO A NEW SYSTEM. Beavette

I KNOW....... SOME PEOPLE THINK I'M A MORON AND A BULLY. THERE WILL ALWAYS BE THOSE PEOPLE...YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M A CHRISTIAN...I MUST BE A BULLY. BUT I DON'T RECALL PUTTING A GUN TO ANYONE'S HEAD AND TELLING THEM TO BELIEVE IN GOD.

PEOPLE HEAR A LOT OF THINGS. I HEAR EVERY DAY, 6 TIMES A DAY OR MORE THAT THE RV IS GOING TO HAPPEN... I THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO GET THIS DONE EVERY DAY...BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS....THEY ARE WORKING ON IT. MANY PEOPLE WANT THIS DONE ASAP... AS BADLY, IF NOT WORSE THEN WE DO.

IT SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED A YEAR AGO... IT DIDN'T. I CHOOSE TO STICK IT OUT AND REAP THE BLESSING WHENEVER IT COMES. I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN THIS. THAT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION.

I’VE HEARD THAT ABOUT 200 TIMES... THAT CHINA PLAYS A ROLE IN THIS, BUT WE WILL NEVER KNOW THE FULL STORY. IF IT WAS IN MY POWER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, IT WOULD HAVE ALREADY, FOR SURE!

SHABIBI CAME OUT AND SAID IT WOULD RV IN THAT TIME FRAME LAST YEAR BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO GET THE NEW BANKING SYSTEM IN PLACE AS THE RV ALONE WASN'T GOING TO SAVE THE ECONOMY WORLD WIDE......IT NEEDED A BIGGER FIX. WE DON'T REALLY CARE. THEY KNOW WHAT RANGE THEY NEED THINGS TO BE IN. THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE....GEORGIABOY IS THE EXPERT IN THAT AREA.

I'VE SAID IT THIS WAY BEFORE, WITH WHERE WE ARE AT.....WE CANT WRITE OFF ANY TIME OR ANY DATE. ALL THE INFO IS POSITIVE THINGS ARE NOT MOVING BACKWARDS.

DO I KNOW ALL THE REASONS WHY IT HASN'T GONE YET?....NO....I DON'T THINK ANYONE DOES. WOULDN’T DO US ANY GOOD TO KNOW SPECIFICS ANYWAYS---WE JUST NEED TO PRAY AND IF YOU DON'T PRAY, YOU KNOW I'LL PUNCH YOU IN THE NOSE LOL. JOKE...PLEASE NOTE THAT WAS SARCASM-- LOL

SO, I AM GOING TO SPEAK FOR JONNY, ONLY BECAUSE HE'S CANADIAN.... EVERYTHING IS GOOD. NOT MUCH NEWS TO SHARE. NOTHING NEW. WE ARE WAITING FOR THE OTHER SHOE TO DROP. HE'S OLD. (CUT THE POOR GUY SOME SLACK LOL).....AND I SAY THAT WITH LOVE AND WITH THANKS GIVING... BECAUSE I KNOW IT’S COMING!!