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Saturday, May 12, 2012

JONNY, BELLAGRITS & BANKER CHAT: Q&A, PART 2, 13 MAY


[..SweetQueen] Have the interbank rates for the IQD been established? have the interbank rates been established on the Islamic Interbank lending market as of yet? if yes? can you give me the value? if not thats no problem either [djodyb]

BellaGrits] ..SweetQueen NO, THE RATES CANNOT BE ESTABLISHED UNTIL THE IQD IS A TRADABLE CURRENCY

[booyah] .jonnywg .jonnywg re: your answer to flameon , so if the PTB are so powerful, and it isnt Iraq, and it should have happened in January, will it EVER happen? seems they can delay it indefinitely

[.jonnywg] booyah YOU ARE RIGHT ......THEY ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO DELAY BUT THE GOOD DAYS ARE TAKING OVER

[dollarman80] BellaGrits Im confused I read from another site today Arizonaheat stated we won't see and RV until Maliki sign the last document for the Ebril he does not want to lose his power can you enlighten me on this,thanks for all you do!

[BellaGrits] dollarman80 WHILE THIS MAY BE CORRECT, IT IS WIDELY FELT THE ESSENCE AND THE SPIRIT OF THE ERBIL AGREMENT HAS BEEN FULLY COMPLETED...THE COUNTRY OF IQ DOES NOT NEED A GOI TO HAVE A FULL RV

[BellaGrits] AND WE FEEL THESE ISSUES WILL NOT EFFECT FINALIZATION OF THE WORLD GLOBAL SETTLEMENT AND ADJUSTMENT
[highlander65] .jonnywg On the countries that are against the RV - are they getting less powerful ?? Are they countries or rich families in certain countries? Is the USA one of them?

[BellaGrits] highlander65 THE BANKER: AT THIS POINT, ALL COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD ARE ON BOARD--ISSUES--IF ANY..... WERE TECHNICAL AND A BIT POLITICAL

 [rlsunsfan] it just seems crazy that this thing has not appeared quickly and quietly, the longer it goes, the more press is starting to build- is this a good thing and what are your sources saying? thank you!

[BellaGrits] rlsunsfan THEBANKER ITS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN IT HAPPENS REGARDLESS OF PRESS OR NOT--NOT SLOW IT DOWN OR SPEED IT UP

[texaslady5] How did someone become eligible for the Global Prosperity programs, Thanks

[Capt Crunch] How much influence do the Rothchilds have over this rv?

[.jonnywg] texaslady5 IT WAS ADVERTISED AND WORD OF MOUTH............ OPEN TO MOST

[BellaGrits] Capt Crunch THEBANKER: NO COMMENT

[johnny law] BellaGrits You mentioned above that the USD will be in the first basket to RV....Are you saying that the USD will increase in value not decrease? Tnx

[BellaGrits] johnny law REVALS CAN BE UP OR DOWN

[joannc1] .jonnywg in your opening statement you mentioned of the 194 countries, 71 voted against the RV. That leaves 123 or 63% who voted for it. Are the 37% who voted against it powerful enough to cause a delay? And if so, what is being done to circumvent their opposition? Thank you.

[.jonnywg] joannc1 NO DELAY............... ALL ON BOARD NOW...........

[redeemed] If the forces that are anti RV are in control and so powerful.....why would we ever think we would see an RV?

[BellaGrits] redeemed WE FEEL THE GOOD FORCES ARE ACTUALLY OVERCOMING THE BAD....YAY!

 [dopeygrl] is your intel telling you that is can happen at any moment or are they saying a little while longer

[.jonnywg] dopeygrl ....... BANKER.............74ANYTIME BUT BY TUESDAY

[RCM] Can you tell us for sure of one bank you have talked with that has admitted this is not a scam..don't have to name the bank but just want to know that a real bank has verified it

[BellaGrits] RCM THEBANKER: YES, FIFTH THIRD 1ST CONVENIENCE WILL ALSO STATE THEY ARE CASHING IN, GLOBAL CURRENCY, ARVEST, AND SOME WELLS FARGO'S AND SOME CHASE BANKS....

[Arwen] Is China (and BRICS) prepared to help prevent an American financial meltown caused deliberately by America's current leadership (both parties)?

[BellaGrits] Arwen YES, WE FEEL CHINA HAS TOO MUCH AT STAKE IN THE US TO SEE IT FAIL

[goddess] Have any of the dinar gurus attempted to contact Christine LaGarde for info or discussion??

jonnywg] goddess I HAVE WRITTEN FOR POST RV ..................... THEY WILL ADDRESS ME ON THIS ISSUE AFTER DEPENDING ON AVAILABILITY............ ALSO CONTACTED HILARY AND MERKEL

[spelunker] The Banker - Are big 4 banks aware and involved in the release of the Prosperity Programs and World Global Settlements? Is the US Treasury going to be replacing the federal reserve as part of the release?

[.jonnywg] spelunker BIG 4 ARE INVOLVED AND UST WILL TAKE OVER

[shooter] BellaGrits Is the release on a timer?

[BellaGrits] shooter NO, WE DON'T BELIEVE IT'S ON A TIMER

 [youneverknow] Have the fiat based countries agreed to switch to Basil III compliance and allow the switch?

[BellaGrits] youneverknow YES

[berberboy] to banker, were the banks ready in january? intel for the last month makes it seem like the banks have just been gearing up for the last month of so

BellaGrits] berberboy THEBANKER: THE BANKS HAVE BEEN READY SINCE 01/01/12...HAD PLENTY OF TRAINING AND READY SINCE THAT TIME

[telemar59] Johnnywg being an intel provider you understand what is meant by Logistics and Timing but most of us would like a better understanding. Thanks.

[.jonnywg] telemar59 30 YRS OF FINANCE AND A FEW DEGREES

[imperium] jonny, what do you mean "it's all timing" what does that mean? Thanks

[.jonnywg] imperium STOCKS/GOLD/OIL/USD ADJUST BY THE MINUTE............ THIS IS JUST PART OF THE TIMING........... THEY HAVE TO RELATE

SUNDAY, MAY 13TH-- MOTHER’S DAY--CHAT WILL BE CLOSED IN HONOR OF ALL OF ALL OUR MOTHERS. CHAT WILL REOPEN IF THERE IS A CHANGE IN THE RV STATUS.

[bcnelson417] .jonnywg with all that is going on with chase right now should i be seeking an alternative bank?

[BellaGrits] bcnelson417 NO, CHASE IS FINE...NOTHING WRONG WITH CHASE....

[fishinmama56] I still don't quite understand why Iran figures into this, can you explain please

[BellaGrits] fishinmama56 EASY-- THEY DON'T

[skyali8i] .jonnywg BellaGrits All i have where i live is a WF adviser building.. I do have an account set up with WF would there be any way they could do my cash out at the Advisor building?!?!

[BellaGrits] skyali8i THEBANKER: IF THEY ARE SETUP AND EQUIPPED --SOME ARE AND SOME ARE NOT....

[queenmum] Banker thank you for being here. Post RV Can I hold my money in a non interest aacount in multiple currencies at the same time backed by the Dodd Frank Act. Thanks:) And Will US Treasury notes be made available? TYVM

[BellaGrits] queenmum THEBANKER: NO, YOU NEED A MULTI CURRENCY MARKET ACCT....THE BANK CAN ARRANGE THAT FOR YOU

[Cyndee49] If PTB against RV are so strong can they stop it completely?

[.jonnywg] Cyndee49 THEY TRIED AND IT IS DEEMED THAT THEY LOST...

[bandit] BellaGrits We keep hearing timing-- Are we waiting on Iraq timing ,IMF or whoms timing

[BellaGrits] bandit ASKED AND ANSWERED...IT'S THE LINING UP OF MANY THINGS WHICH WE FEEL WE ARE EXPERIENCING NOW

 [jyburt] we keep hearing there has to be a banking alignment, per previous statements they are tues, wed, thurs, at this point does that information still stand true

[.jonnywg] jyburt BANKER............... CAN HAPPEN AT ANY MOMENT

 [sandytob] What does the phrase "Timing Issue" mean anyway?

[tman42] IYO Lagarde is waiting on Shabs to say go?

  [BellaGrits] tman42 NO

[BellaGrits] sandytob SEE ABOVE

 [blackdog] Bella, why do you say that unfortunately Lagarde has the magic wand? Thanks

[BellaGrits] blackdog I WANT IT?

.zbesta] what all has to line up in order for the RV to go live?

[BellaGrits] zbesta OIL, GOLD, SILVER; ETC

[shooter] .jonnywg Fathers day is in June, thats not funny.........................

[.jonnywg] shooter A POST RV CELEBRATION

[.jonnywg] WE HAVE ANSWERED THE TIMING QUESTION

[wheezer2] BellaGrits .....you and jonny say "timing issue" what are you specifically referring to.....a sequence of events? if so, what events? thanks for your dedication to us :)

 [.jonnywg] wheezer2 ABSWERED

[Andrin] Banker, thank you for your time this evening. I have a young family. What should be my first step in securing our future and wealth after the IQD exchange?

[BellaGrits] Andrin THEBANKER: GET WITH A PERSONAL WEATH MANAGER...GET A FINANCE TEAM TOGETHER TO HELP W/ YOUR INVESTMENTS

[BigB] Since the 1st of last July, I have felt that Iraq has been drawing our attention from the real answers. I have felt that they could get their act together in 24-48 hours when the rest of the world was ready for the RV. What are your thoughts?

[.jonnywg] BigB YOU COULD BE RIGHT BUT THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES

[wheezer2] BellaGrits ...have either of you seen the PP letter?

[BellaGrits] wheezer2 NO, WE HAVE NOT

 [babybaby] is everything still the same for check out...1. call for appt 2. banks still be open for 8 days 24 hrs

 [wheezer2] .jonnywg ....what are the front bank screens showing for IQD?

[BellaGrits] wheezer2 PASS
vic406] Jonny we have been told Iraq Friday has joined the European union on trade specifically the pipeline any truth to that a RV had to be part of it if so where is it. Thanks For All

[.jonnywg] vic406 vic406 GUARRANTEED BY OTHERS UNTIL RV ANNOUNCED OFFICIAL

 [hooulu] .jonnywg...mahalo for your reply to my question yesterday....your answer was Christine LaGarde....my question today is >> Do you know of anyone who has been in direct, daily communication with LaGarde regarding rv, and, if so, does she have any comforting words for the masses waiting on rv?

BellaGrits] hooulu NO, WE DONT SPEAK DIRECTLY WITH LAGARDE; HOWEVER, WE COME CLOSE.... SHE IS READY, THE WORLD IS READY....WE HAVE EXPLAINED THE ELEMENTS OF THE TIMING AS BEST WE CAN

[19rue] .jonnywg or BellaGrits If Lagarde is the one with the magic wand and it is just a timing issue, what has happened this week that makes you think it will happen in the coming week?

[.jonnywg] 19rue MANY CONTRACTS TB PAID, GAS DEAL EURO, EURO COUNTRIES ARE ALL ON FINANCIAL COLLISION COURSES........... NOW IS IT
[berberboy] jonny or bella, dont take this as a negitive question, but is there a chance that the smoke we all here about is that its at the banks? in other words is there even a slight chance that intel is leading us down the wrong path? that it really has more to do with iraq then what your being told?

[BellaGrits] berberboy NO, IRAQ IS NOT AN ISSUE AT ALL

[ladyjoan] If BNS is on board with Canadian Packages where might we find this information and who should we speak to? Thanks

 [txtrkrwife] .jonnywg you mentioned that you will be closed on Fathers day as well, are you expecting it to go that far? TY

[.jonnywg] txtrkrwife THIS IS A POST RV CELEBRATION

[.jonnywg] ladyjoan THEY OFFER NO PACKAGES BUT YOU CAN TAKE A USA ONE........... BNS ADMITS THE IQD REAL

[thp329] You say you don't know what the holdup is, so how do you know it is not Maliki

[.jonnywg] thp329 HOW DO YOU KNOW IT IS??

[burgess] jonnywg/BANKER: Will we be able to cash out through Wells Fargo Advisors?

[BellaGrits] burgess HEBANKER: NO, YOU WONT CASHOUT THRU ADVISORS...JUST PERSONAL WEALTH AND THOSE TRAINED FOR CASHOUT...THAT WILL BE POSTED AFTER THE RV...

[hawaii50] Jonnywg, move into US dollars first, then move some $$ to other currency? Or move into other currency at cash in? Many thanks for your efforts!

[BellaGrits] hawaii50 YOU CANT CASHIN TO A FOREIGN CURRENCY FIRST--THAT'S LAW= MUST CASHIN TO US FIRST---THEN YOU DO WHAT YOU WANT AFTERWARDS--

 [..SweetQueen] I have another currency I am looking at investing into and I am wondering when a currency drops their zeros do you get prior notification or only notice the day of? [djodyb]

[.jonnywg] djodyb]NEED A LOT MOORE INFO ....BUT SAME RULES APPLY TO ALL

[carole1012] So, what has to be done to get Lagarde to release the wand?

[BellaGrits] carole1012 WHEN SHE RELEASES THE TIARRA???

 [BellaGrits] 10 MINUTES

[tman42] If Iraq has nothing to do with the RV, is it our banks that are holding it up? If so how does the US have the power to hold up something that is considered a global realignment of currencies?

BellaGrits] tman42 PLEASE PEEPS....ALL THINGS MUST LINE UP TOGETHER..... WE FEEL THEY ARE ALL IN SYNC FINALLY

 [twhite0772] Banker With the imminent RV so close why could't we get an advanced loan against our IQD at least percentage of? ie1000 to1 ratio.

[.jonnywg] twhite0772 BANKER .....BANKS LOAN ON ASSETS ... YOU HAVE NONE AS AT TODAY

[shar35] Banker - what are the banks waiting for in order to be able to pass the rates to the branches? Where is the authorization to come from? Or is the timing in the codes?

 [BellaGrits] shar35 THEBANKER: ALL WE ARE WAITING FOR IS IT TO BE RELEASED TO THE BRANCH LEVEL...REGIONALS HAVE IT

[shooter] .jonnywg So if it's at the regional level, What is LaGuard looking for to say go?

[.jonnywg] shooter PERFECT TIMING AND PTB AGREEMENT

BellaGrits] shooter PERFECT TIMING....WHICH WE FEEL WE ARE THERE....WE CAN'T BE IN A BETTER POSITION IN OUR OPINION COLLECTIVELY...THIS INCLUDES NUMEROUS IINTEL PROVIDERS AS WELL

[gwalls] If LaGarde holds the trigger, wouldn't pulling it diminish the power and hold on the world banking system. this whole asset-backed play is designed to be systemic change wresting control from BIS who she deals with and represents daily. She's holding it up??

[.jonnywg] I DISAGREE IT WRESTS CONTROL FROM THOSE WITH NO ASSETS

[tsm] BellaGrits : You say Iraq has signed off on the RV...Has anyone "a real person" seen these docs? or is it just the Peeps who are providing the info to YOU and thus far not doing so well with reliable intel

[.jonnywg] 5 MINUTES

[BellaGrits] tsm WE HAVE RELIABLE INTEL..... BUT THANKS FOR THE ADVICE.....SIGNATURES WERE ACQUIRED AS LATE AS LAST WEEK UNBEKNOWNST AND AT LAST MINUTE TO US

[FastTrack] Have the rates ever been in any of the branch levels?

[.jonnywg] FastTrack BANKER NO IT HAS NOT SHOWN

[wheezer2] BellaGrits , jonnywg "IF EVERYONE DOES THEIR PART, WE WILL DEFINITELY SEE IT BEFORE JUNE" please explain the 1st clause....who is everyone and what are their parts?

[THE BANKER] THE BOTTOM LINE IS BE AS CAREFUL WITH THIS NEW NEW FOUND MONEY AS YOU WOULD WITH MONEY YOU WORKED HARD TO EARN..REMEMBER TO MAKE WELL-THOUGHT-OUT DECISIONS.

[BellaGrits] wheezer2 PASS

[shooter] BellaGrits So if all the banks are ready, what is LaGuard waiting for?

[BellaGrits] shooter ANSWERED YOU EARLIER-- SAME QUESTION

rlsunsfan] what was the letter fromWF about saying its a scam?has that been verified

[santafe] Can you tell us a bit more about the announcement made in France about the new banking system.

[BellaGrits] santafe THEBANKER: IT'S FINISHED

[WISERNOW] A banker at Wells Fargo has stated that the Dodd Frank will ONLY protect "personal" accounts -- NOT busisness - such as my corp sole / Foundation - If that be true could you suggest Lloyds or some "private" entity for the protection?

[BellaGrits] WISERNOW THEBANKER: WHEN YOU GO IN YOUR PERSONAL WEALTH AND BANKERS WILL OFFER ADDITIONAL INSURANCE ON YOUR MONEY

[angelbabies28] do you think we will see this tomorrow or will it go to monday or tuesday?

[BellaGrits] tc0043 VERY POSSIBLY

[.jonnywg] OK THAT IS ENOUGH THERE IS NO SCAM AT WELLS FARGO............ THE JETTER WAS NOT SENT TO WF EMPLYEES.................... THEY ARE THE CLEARING HOUSE FOR THE IQD AND VND

[.jonnywg] THANKS FOLKS \

[..SweetQueen] THANK YOU , THE BANKER, JONNYWG AND BELLAGRITS AND AS ALWAYS THE CLUBKETTERS OF THE CASTLE.

[THE BANKER] GOOD NIGHT ALL MAY WE HAVE A GREAT NEXT WEEK OR SOONER..

JONNY, BELLAGRITS & BANKER CHAT: Q&A, PART.1, 13 MAY


[.jonnywg] Remember the old PROVERB: Knowledge is power? Well all of you Dinarians need to power-up and understand a few things The RV [revalue] isn't just about Iraq and the Dinar or Vietnam and the VND. The RV is an international matter, which does not necessitate; require or focus upon Maliki or Shabbi's permission or the United Nations approval or acknowledgment.

For those of you who do not research history, government, law and politics………. Those who do not know their past are condemned to repeat it. George Santayana The Chinese have no designs on World Domination and still they are responsible for championing the RV internationally. Seventy one Countries opposed the RV because it meant the destruction of their FIAT based currency and government.

All of those Countries are United Nations members. Now isn't that curious? The balance of the 194 Countries who are not United Nations members, voted in favor of the RV because they are tired of selling their goods and services internationally, in exchange for worthless paper [or] script, a/k/a FIAT currency!.........................
... The RV is all about forcing all Countries who wish to trade internationally, to make their currency [asset backed] or BASIL III compliant! BASIL III means currency guaranteed by gold, silver or some other measurable asset accountability: [e.g.] NO MORE Bonded Promissory Notes drawn against government issued birth certificates [or] currency backed by counterfeit Liens [or] Bonds simply created out of thin air, which is the reason why the Euro is on the verge of collapsing right now!

[.jonnywg] above is from JUDGE DALE retired

[calidinarhope] Is Iraq out of the picture at this point? Or could it be that although Iraq is out of the picture in terms of decision makinfoot activate the RV, PTB are waiting for Iraq to become somewhat stable politically before announcing the RV?

BellaGrits] calidinarhope IRAQ IS OUT OF THE PICTURE.

[.jonnywg] hi all ................... that post along with more will be posted ....... we feel judge dale has some good understanding

[dinarmaven] Do we really have an idea as to when the rv is gonna happen?

jonnywg] dinarmaven we think DISNEYLAND .....,,,,,,,,,,,, but it is just about finished

[fishinmama56] Can you give us any info at all on the Global Prosperity programs? Thank you

[.jonnywg] fishinmama56 they are to be released at same time as the RV

[Arwen] Will EO 13303 really expire soon and will it stop American's ability to purchase dinar?

[BellaGrits] Arwen AN OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT RESPONSE HAS NOT BEEN PUBLISHED

[slydog] .jonnywg Do you think we will see this next week ? TY

[.jonnywg] slydog slydog YES I DO

.[prissynell] jonny do you think the RV will happen before the PP but who will bring in the new banking system

[.jonnywg] prissynell BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.......... NEW SYSTEM IS IN PLAY UPON RV RELEASE

 [Daytona] .jonnywg can you tell us which currencies will be in the first basket?

[BellaGrits] Daytona WE FEEL CHINA, AUSTRALIA, UK, US DOLLAR, IRAQ, VIETNAM

 [flameon] Banker-Johnny how powerful are the forces that are anti-RV?

[.jonnywg] flameon THEY CURRENTLY RULE THE FINANCIAL WORLD ......SO VERY POWERFUL

[1biz4u] question To Banker: IYO Will the RV take place before June?? And will the rate come out high before it settles down?? Thanks

[BellaGrits] 1biz4u THEBANKER: HARD TO SAY--IT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE THE 1ST WEEK OF JANUARY 2012

 [highlander65] Did not know the history you just posted, Jonny. Thanks! Could you give us a little update as to where you think we are right now? Do you feel the next week will be the telling tale? THANKS SO MUCH FOR EVERYTHING!

[.jonnywg] highlander65 YES NEXT WEEK IS A GOOD TEST

 [4Shore] Are we positive that we are not waiting for Iraq? Are they the reason the button has not been pushed? Thx

[BellaGrits] 4Shore YES, WE ARE.... NO, THEY ARE NOT THE REASON THE BUTTON HASN'T BEEN PUSHED

 [booyah] Hi Jonny and Bella and Banker, please tell us why we aren't seeing this, after all the excitement and anticipation last week, here we sit, another weekend with no RV !! Please explain where we are at, thanks

 [calidinarhope] Is Iraq out of the picture at this point? Or could it be that although Iraq is out of the picture in terms of decision making to activate the RV, PTB are waiting for Iraq to become somewhat stable politically before announcing the RV?

[.jonnywg] calidinarhope FINANCIALLY YES........ POLITICALLY THEY STILL HAVE INFLUENCE

[angelbabies28] what is holding up the RV? and if nothing what is the reason it hasnt happened? thank you for all you do jonny and bella and team

BellaGrits] angelbabies28 THERE IS NO HOLDUP.....NO NEGATIVE/ ALL POSITIVE...WE FEEL IS LOGISTICS AND TIMING PERIOD.

 [Terri] IYHO will this happen in 2012??

[.jonnywg] Terri Terri Terri Terri IT BETTER

[ [RCM] your thoughts on the merger of Allawi and Kurd blocks?

[BellaGrits] RCM A GREAT MERGER...ABSOLUTE CONTROL OF THE COUNTRY

 [queenmum] Jonnywg and Bella are we still just waiting for it to drop in.... still a timing issue? TYVM for all you both do... So appreciate it.

[.jonnywg] queenmum YES IT IS TIMING

[patriot1490] jonnywg, that opening statements was music to my ears. So much going on and we need to hear it from you guys. Thank you so very much.

[.jonnywg] patriot1490 patriot1490 YW MY FRIEND

[19rue] .jonnywg or BellaGrits Do you believe the Iraqi Dinar can revalue with Maliki in office? Can the turmoil in Iraq put the revaluation on hold?

[BellaGrits] 19rue YES, WE DO AND NO, WE DO NOT FEEL IRAQ CAN HOLD THE WORLD HOSTAGE IN THE LEAST-- THAT IS LUDICROUS

[diamond4me] Hi, BellaGrits, JonnyWG, Banker:first question: I have been reading ppl are asking same question over and over again, how close we are and the answer we all klnow very close. Now post RV should we contact Wealth managment from Bank or Financial Advisor and what is the difference between both entity.

 [olesailor] who is holding the magic wand that will turn pixie dust into RV

[BellaGrits] olesailor I WANT TO HOLD THE WAND MYSELF ... lol HOWEVER, WE DO FEEL LAGARDE HAS THE WAND UNFORTUNATELY..... AND THAT DUST...MAGIC DUST? I ORDERED SOME lol...... LETCHA' KNOW WHEN IT COMES IN.

[.jonnywg] diamond4me BANKER WEALTH MANAGER HANDLES IT ALL ............ FINANCIAL ADVISOR IS RE INVESTMENTS AND ASSET ALLOCATION

[burneyw] what is holding it up

[BellaGrits] burneyw NOTTA...TIMING

[spelunker] .jonnywg BellaGrits Is there any new progress with the PPs and WGS this week? When might we see indications that they have been released? I know it won't be on the news. ;-)

[BellaGrits] spelunker WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THE WGS HAS BEEN RESOLVED AND FUNDS TO BE ISSUED FIRST OF WEEK....PP LETTERS HAVE BEEN SENT OUT AND WITH THE IMMINENT RV, ALL WE BE RELEASED...

[.jonnywg] FYI WE WILL ALSO BE CLOSED FATHRS DAY AS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY CHAT SITE

Lorim] Are any Canadian banks on board or aware of this possible revaluation? Will there be Canadian bank packages available on this forum?

[.jonnywg] Lorim NO PACKAGES BUT BNS IS ON BOARD

 [anothername] Shabbi has always said he wanted a seated GOI--How can we say ASN when we have this problem with "M" ?

[BellaGrits] anothername ANY SECOND NAME IS WHEN MALIKI AND SHABBS AGREE.... OR ONE IS REMOVED--- SO THE OTHER GETS HIS WAY.... NEITHER MATTERS FOR THE RV.... IRAQ HAS ALREADY SIGNED OFF ON THE RV

[Bigdog55] Johnnywg is this at the banks as of yet or is it still in the hands of the IMF or UST.

[.jonnywg] Bigdog55 BANKER IT IS AT THE REGIONAL LEVEL ........... NO BRANCHES

[firenice] Sweet queen Johnny you stated the other night that UST was given the green light to finish this process and how close are we to that end? Thank you

[BellaGrits] firenice WE'RE PAST THE END OF NO RETURN

 [alphadog71] Is the RV decision taking Iraq problems into condiseration before they push the button?

[.jonnywg] alphadog71 OF COURSE BUT NOT THE MITIGATING FACTOR

[TradJr] If iraq is out of the picture and every country needs this so bad right NOW and everything is done in banks and everything else is done what else is there to wait for? why stall if it is needed so much! all cant be done if we are still here waiting?

[BellaGrits] TradJr THEBANKER: IMO THE BANK PACKAGES ARE READY TO GO, THE BANKS ARE READY (ALTHOUGH WE DID ADD 2 MAJOR BANKS TO THE EQUATION AND CASHOUT)...JUST WAITING FOR THE RATES TO DROP

 [Bigdog55] Realisiticly do you believe this will be handled by the chinese and we will see it before the 1st of June

[BellaGrits] Bigdog55 IF EVERYONE DOES THEIR PART, WE WILL DEFINITELY SEE IT BEFORE JUNE

 [diamond4me] Is WGS And P-Program is Real. Do you know anything about CMKX Shareholder will be getting Paid.TIA

[BellaGrits] diamond4me YES, THE WGS IS REAL... CMKX WILL GET PAID AS WILL THE OTHER P'S WILL GET PAID
[wclogr] jonnywg, I recieved that letter a few days ago, with 71 fiat based countries of the UN in opposition to the RV it's hard to imagine a rv anytime soon

[.jonnywg] wclogr THEY ARE OVER RULED BY THE MAJORITY

 [queenmum] Are there any NEW banking laws or issues that we need to know about? Or will we wait to see the reveal first? TYvm

BellaGrits] queenmum THEBANKER: NOT MY KNOWLEDGE-- EVERYTHING IS READY TO GO--BEEN IN ENOUGH MEETINGS TO KNOW THAT

 [BigB] Is the devaluation of the US Dollar going to happen at the same time as the RV?

[.jonnywg] BigB IT WILL BE GENTLY DEVALUED ACCORDING TO OUR SOURCES OVER A PERIOD OF TIME

[jstairs] Judging from Judge Dale's summary, do you feel that the political process is controlling the rv release?

[BellaGrits] jstairs NO, WE DO NOT

[tman42] Are we waiting on shabs to give the ok before we see the RV released?

[BellaGrits] tman42 ABSOLUTELY NOT-- HE HAS DONE THAT ALREADY AND THEN SOME
[shar35] jonnywg - when was this vote of the 195 countries done? What are the remaining issues to be settled before the rate will be posted, if any?

[.jonnywg] shar35 I BELIEVED THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE PRESENTED THIS A YEAR AGO

[Spec1] .jonnywg - do you know if the time delay is an in USA or out of USA problem being resolved?

[BellaGrits] Spec1 GLOBAL –

[.jonnywg] .jonnywg A GLOBAL ISSUE NOT JUST USA

[texaslady5] If the EO13303 does expire, will our Dinar be of any value? Will we be able to cash in when it RV's

[BellaGrits] texaslady5 THE BANKER: THE DINAR WILL RETAIN IT'S VALUE-- IT'S CURRENCY

 [...FG~] .jonnywg will studley be working with us post RV still?

[.jonnywg] ...FG~ STUDLY POST ON ANOTHER SITE BUT HE WOULD BE WELCOME TO ASSIST.................................... WE WILL HAVE A FEW ADVISORS HERE TO HELP

 [ladyjoan] I am looking for information on the Canadian dollar being backed by assets instead of a fiat currency. Can you direct me to any information on this? Thanks

[.jonnywg] ladyjoan ALL CURRENCIES IN THE WORLD WILL BE BACKED BY GOLD / SILVER OIL

 [spelunker] .jonnywg Retired Judge Dale has written about america's "real" history. Have you become familiar with it? Even Columbus'

 [tessa] Jonnywg do you agree with Vic1 at OOm that 5/13/12 is the date agreed to by shabbi and moon for rv deadline

[.jonnywg] tessa DO NOT READ VIC1............. BUT NEVER HEARD OF THIS AGREEMENT

[spelunker] discovery was changed.

[.jonnywg] spelunker I DO NOT AGREE WITH EVERYTHING HE SAYS BUT MOST OF IT IS INTERESTING

[janiesmiles] Johnnywg and Bella Thank you for all your hard work to bring us information Really appreciate you both

[BellaGrits] janiesmiles YOU'RE WELCOME

 [telemar59] Johnnywg do you think we will be at the bank on Monday or later in the week?

 [spelunker] .jonnywg Retired Judge Dale has written about america's "real" history. Have you become familiar with it? Even Columbus'discovery was changed.

 [telemar59] Johnnywg do you think we will be at the bank on Monday or later in the week?

[.jonnywg] I THINK IT WILL BE OVER BY TUESDAY

[rlsunsfan] just listened to a call that stated .86 cents to 1.17 for 4 days- do you concur?

[BellaGrits] rlsunsfan OMW, REALLY? NO, WE DON'T

[oublood] BellaGrits .jonnywg what could Okie know that couldnt be released for over a week that he keeps holding back ??? THE POST !!!

 [Capt Crunch] How is fractional banking reserve going to be effected post rv?

[.jonnywg] Capt Crunch DERIVITIVES HAVE TO BE 100% COLLATERALIZED

[joannc1] .jonnywg Good evening. Do you know for a fact that the energy agreement between Iraq and Europe that was rumored to be signed yesterday, was actually signed? And if so, how did they manage to enter into that agreement without the Dinar becoming internationally tradable?

.jonnywg] joannc1 WE WERE ADVISED THAT IT WAS SIGNED AND GUARRANTTEED BY OTHER AGENCIES / IMF

[vivrelereve] .jonnywg .jonnywg hello do we have a current window you are looking at? Ty

[.jonnywg] telemar59 BY TUESDAY

[Chanan] Mr. Jonny & Ms Bella... Thank-You For All You Do For Us... Where Exactly In Your Opinion Do You Think We Stand???

[.jonnywg] vivrelereve vivrelereve THE FRENCH BORDEAUX WINDOW...............BY TUESDAY

[obie] Hi, Jonny, Bella, Banker......What is the forecast for cash-in with Chase at this time, with the info coming thru the media?

[BellaGrits] Chanan WAITING.... PATIENTLY......WE ARE AT THE END....WE JUST WANT TO SEE IT, FRIENDS

[slydog] .jonnywg Does any of the intel providers know the real rate or just guesstamating?

[.jonnywg] obie THE SAME AS WF AND HE OTHERS ............. BY TUESDAY

[Dragn] Thoughts on the Rothchilds, Morgans & Rockefeller families?

[goddess] What has been delaying the RV up to now. Everyone said it was done.

[BellaGrits] slydog WE FEEL WE HAVE A STRONG HANDLE AS TO WHERE WE ARE....HENCE, WE FEEL AS CLOSE AS WE ARE, WE NEED TO STAY MORE SILENT THAN USUAL NOT TO JEOPARDIZE OUR POSITION WHICH HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST.

[.jonnywg] Dragn BANKER NO COMMENT

[zbesta] Bella, Jonny ~ why did it not happen this last week

[BellaGrits] zbesta THERE WAS A LAST MINUTE ROUND OF SIGNATURES.....INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, AND UNAWARE OF THIS, THERE WAS LAST WEEK....

[BellaGrits] goddess TIMING.....MERE TIMING

[sandytob] .jonnywg Can you or the Banker tell us why the RV did not take place this week as we expected?

[BellaGrits] sandytob SEE ZBESTA

[Outriggers] If EO13303 is allowed, can a new EO be issued taking away our right to cash our dinar or restrict how much?

[BellaGrits] Outriggers NOT IN OUR OPINION....BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR A GOVERNMENT DECISION

[geterdone] Have the banks actually agreed to the 7-8 day cash in time frame with locked in rate?

[.jonnywg] geterdone NOT IN WRITING

chasen] BellaGrits are you saying the us dollar will rv before the dinar?

[.jonnywg] chasen BANKER AT THE SAME TIME

 [Daytona] BellaGrits thank you. We were told that there would be 12 currencies in the first basket. Is this a change in policy, or rather that other countries are not yet ready???

BellaGrits] Daytona THEBANKER: TOO MANY OF THE CURRENCIES WOULD NOT LINE UP-- OUR INFO IS THERE WILL BE ONLY 6 IN THE FIRST BASKET

 [JstBringIt] Is this synopsis close to what is going on? US banking and political systems are ready and waiting, Rates can be high for short period, waiting for Iraq to get ready to "announce" the RV, at the point they know exactly when announcement is to be done, high rate is released, then real announcement comes after our high rate period expires and everyone lives happily ever after???

[BellaGrits] JstBringIt THIS IS CLOSE?

[texaslady5] How did someone become eligible for the Global Prosperity programs, Thanks

[BellaGrits] texaslady5 WORLD GLOBAL SETTLEMENTS AND PROSPERITY PACKAGES..... WGS ARE COUNTRIES AND WORLD LIFESTYLES (HUNGER, EDUCATION, ETC)....PROSPERITY PACKAGES ARE HUMANITARIAN ISSUES AND OWNED BY INDIVIDUALS...WE BELIEVE IT WAS ADVERTISED BY WORD OF MOUTH

[queenmum] Jonnywg, Bella and Banker what are your thoughts as to the JP Morgan/chase derivatives downward spiral(it has been cooming for a long time) Do you think the RV could bail them out safely would they still be a bank to consider post RV cash in..... ? Tyvm for being here!

 [.jonnywg] queenmum THERE ARE NO ASSETS TO BACK UP THE DERIVITIVES THUS THEY ARE WORTHLESS NOW THAT ALL DERIVITIES MUST BE COLLATERALIZED........... THE RV WILL HELP............................................THEY SB AROUND AS STOCK ONLY FELL 12%

[sandytob] .jonnywg If the anti RV ppl currently rule the finacial world...how can we ever have this RV?

[.jonnywg] sandytob BANKRUPT THE ANTI RV PPL

 [mystery] .jonnywg if the banks are in charge..why are we still waiting?

[BellaGrits] mystery TIMING...LOGISTICS....WE ARE VERY CLOSE

[shooter] So with Jonny Posted about all the various countries, has everyone agreed and on board for the RV?

jonnywg] shooter BANKER WE THINK SO

[ladydi] Do you feel like it is safe to use Chase Bank in light of the recent news about their financial loss. It is the only one of the big 4 in my area.

[.jonnywg] ladydi BANKER CHASE IS OK............... A VERY LARGE BANK THAT JUST LOST SOME MONEY............ THEY WILL RECOVER

JONNY POST, 13 MAY

.jonnywg] You all know about Americas NATIONAL DEBT and heard the arguments about how our government leaders have squandered the labor and assets of future generations for centuries to come! Now heres the truth about that argument: America is a FIAT or debt based government and economy, and in order to stabilize a FIAT system, it is necessary to PERPETUATE DEBT and never pay it off! Hence, the reason why Congress refuses to be held to a balanced budget and the reason for our military involvement in so many foreign wars! Even a high tax structure helps to perpetuate debt, especially when 100% of your tax dollars are exported out of the United States! And I bet you thought your taxes ran the government and wars were all about stopping Communist aggression! In the minds of our government leaders: War and taxes are good for business! Spoken like a true sociopath! ................................. JUDGE DALE RETIRED

[.jonnywg] Debt represents a negative number and in America, debt is perpetuated with the use of promissory notes called: Federal Reserve Notes. The Federal Reserve is neither Federal nor is it a Reserve. It is a privately owned foreign corporation and is also known by the name: The Bank of International Settlements. The Federal Reserve Corporation is owned and controlled by a group of Sabbatean Jewish Bankers based in Israel. Americas NATIONAL DEBT is actually Israels Debt but we all have been taught that it is Americas obligation and responsibility, with the use of clever patriotic slogans like: This is the cost of Freedom! Youve got to love those patriotic slogans! The NATIONAL DEBT is a trick bookkeeping entry, which does not involve any real assets because a real asset entry would immediately cancel the debt. Under the Uniform Commercial Code, promissory notes such as a Federal Reserve Note, is defined as a: Negotiable Debt Instrument; and so the National Debt of America is based entirely upon these negotiable debt instruments. In retrospect, Americas National Debt can be cancelled at any time with an asset bookkeeping entry and the payment of one dollar of solid gold or silver! A positive cancels a negative, even when the negative is in the trillions. Its basic Algebra! BY JUDGE DALE

POPPY POST, 12 MAY

May 12 :33 PM [Sugar Pie] 4:47 PM [poppy3] ok rich friends caller said he has heard zero today and that maliki is still wrangling trying to find a way to stay in position. 

He like me thinks we will heard some solid details by monday evening and have a much better picture of the time table for the process to bring closure to the erbil, ministers, hcl and article 140...

All should be talked about by then and may even be activated hand tight friends and enjoy family and especially mom's . Poppy3

HAMMERMAN POST, 12 MAY

5-12-2012 Hammerman:  I think our most probable day (over 80%) won't be until Tuesday.  Anything can happen.  Maliki has been led back into the country (he came back on Thurs).  He has no political powers and has been playing well. They need 163 votes to receive "no confidence".  Evidently, though he will probably be reinstated after this thing RVs, but then go by the way side - b/c he has enough pull somewhere (US, China, who knows). I'm gonna sit on the rest of what I have.

DINAR GURUS UPDATE, 12 MAY

5-12-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru BGG    still no National Conference meeting set...Maliki has rejected any deadline set by alliances...it appears as though Maliki intends to take this fight all the way to the Parliament

5-12-2012  Newshound/Intel Guru ArizonaHeat   there are no hold up as far as a goi, or powers to be, we have an irbil agreement signed, but Maliki unwilling to sign the final document to enact this agreement.  he is going against his own word, the words we and other leaders agreed upon years ago.  he is a desperate man doing some very dumb things. we shall see how this all plays out very soon.

5-12-2012 Newshound Guru SWFloridaGuy  According to reports, Iraq's economy is improving at an exponential rate. According to the SIGR's (special inspector general for Iraq reconstruction) quarterly report sent to the US Congress, the IMF and the CBI both project GDP to grow by 12% in 2012Crude oil reached its highest production in decades and foreign commercial activity jumped 40%. The CoR (Council of Representatives) who among other things pass federal laws, ratify treaties, and approve nominations of specified officials, recently approved the largest budget in the country's history.

5-12-2012  Intel Guru BWM   there's a lot of speculation about the date for M's "deadline" and I wasn't going to get into it but so many are throwing the dates around I wanted to cover that... many are saying the 17th based on an article that was released BUT there was also an article stating that it was handed down on saturday before last which would also make Sunday, the 13th as a date also... SO, what does this tell us? Same thing, you CAN'T trust the articles from Iraq for true, complete information. AND, they don't give ACTUAL deadlines, there's always some "wiggle" room somewhere in there plans.

5-12-2012  Newshound Guru Med   THE OTHER BLOCS WANTED TO BE ABLE TO DISCUSS ANY TOPIC THAT WAS BOTHERING THEM AT THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE AND THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE WONT.  THEY HAD SO MANY PRELIMINARY MEETINGS THAT I STATED THAT THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE WOULD NOT TAKE PLACE, THAT THEY WOULD GET INTO...MORE ARGUMENTS, THE MORE THEY MET IT WOULD JUST FALL TO THE WAYSIDE.  NOW MALIKI IS TRYING TO USE IT AGAINST THE OTHER BLOCS...IF THE OTHERS AGREED TO THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE...I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF IT DIDNT TAKE PLACE THIS YEAR.  

NENOS CHAT, 12 MAY

Alex Z - Neno's Chat hey, duck, wile you are here, and i hvae to go, can i ask one thing before?
 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat sure

 Alex Z - Neno's Chat about the meeting in june, do we know the date? or will they post it? or is it just gonna be random?

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat usally mid june around 15th
 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat but i dont expect it to go that long

Neno Z - Neno's Chat [i]lol, speaking on that, did you or yall see the tarriff go into effect artcile for july?

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat didnt say that neno
 Neno Z - Neno's Chat [i]didn't?

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat no i said this was the chamber of commerence guy

 patty Z - Neno's Chat [b]thanks for that duck...they wouldn't advertise the 15th of june anyhow i don't think...

 Neno Z - Neno's Chat [i]Gotcha you.. but he said that

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat he dont run the finance minister

 Neno Z - Neno's Chat [i]I hear you...

 slj9999 Z - Neno's Chat [b][i]so that tariff comes after RV or B/4?

 Alex Z - Neno's Chat ok, thanks duck

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat the FIN min Aanswers to maliki only and they sett the tarriffs

 patty Z - Neno's Chat [b]so...the tarrif is still june 1...this was smoke right?

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat tarriffs come after

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat yes tarriffs are on for june first

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat lol no this is someone trying to reach out side his postion in the iraqi goi

 cajunmama Z - Neno's Chat ty duck for keeping us straight

 Alex Z - Neno's Chat wow...this is getting really close...i didnt reliaze how close it is...

 patty Z - Neno's Chat [b]the guy that said july 1 is not in charge of tarrif...so it is still june i guess

 slj9999 Z - Neno's Chat [b][i]ok thanks duck

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat yes patty

 Alex Z - Neno's Chat what could really stop it now?

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat nothing

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat its in the unsc hands

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat but imho they wont because kuwait has signed off on it

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat and they were the attached

 patty Z - Neno's Chat [b]what could stop it duck? just want to know for the heck of it...lol

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat attacked ..err

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat imho nothing

 Franky Z - Neno's Chat is more excited than a squirrel on a trampoline :P

 Alex Z - Neno's Chat well...so we just wait, somewhere between now and july

 patty Z - Neno's Chat [b]so we have 3 sundays left before the 1st...hope its the closest lol

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat july?

 crazzy_411 Z - Neno's Chat now would be better

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat it aint going dat long

 Xwoman Z - Neno's Chat the un mtg for the vote does have to be posted for two days though Duck, right?

 charlee Z - Neno's Chat Duck if it happens in May, they still need to post the UN meeting to vote, 2 days prior?

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat Application of tariffs beginning of July 08/05/2012 2:35 revealed to the economy and invest in the House of Representatives for identifying the first of next July as the deadline for the application of tariff law.

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat and added that the committee had heard a lot of government officials and their support for the application of tariff law, and what happened to delay him during the previous period for more than three times was because of the lack of automatic required for the application of this law. “

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat the automatic they talikng about is chapter7

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat said Husseini said “the last committee meeting with the Minister of Planning Dr. Ali Shukri, in which he explained some things, especially that there is trying to delay the application of this law from the perspective of” commercial “rather than economic,” noting that the final decision of the Parliament and the Commission Economic Committee and the Government is to determine the first of next July, the date for the application of tariff law.,

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat economic committee

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat has no say so

 patty Z - Neno's Chat [b]trying to delay...but doesn't have authority?

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat its upto the finance min ONLY

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat and he answers to maliki ONLY

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat the finance MIN is in the exicutive branch not the legistative branch

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat the date as it stands right now for tarriffs is june 1st

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat the last line should have told yall what was what >>>>>> he noted, “there were opinions from some lawmakers and other parties demands to postpone the application of this law again, but the Committee in turn, rejected that as before the date last resort commitments made by each of the government and parliament. “

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat yall dont think neno is going to the vegas for the circus ..circus .. buffett

 mbryan Z - Neno's Chat then what for?

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat he misses vegas .. lol

 mbryan Z - Neno's Chat to finalize details?

 patty Z - Neno's Chat [b]so...in other words its happening in the next three weeks..just say it!!!!!!

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat Executive branchThe executive branch is composed of the President / Presidency Council and the Council of Ministers.[4]

 mbryan Z - Neno's Chat yes ty duck gonna miss you

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat The Cabinet of Iraq (officially called the Council of Ministers) is the executive branch of the government of Iraq.

 slj9999 Z - Neno's Chat [b][i]They must be pretty confident that Iraq will be released from Chapt. 7

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat The National Assembly of Iraq elects a President of State who along with two deputies form the Presidency Council. The Presidency Council appoints the Prime Minister who appoints the Council of Ministers, all of whom must be approved by the Assembly. At least one former government ministry, the Information Ministry, no longer exists.

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat The former Deputy Prime Minister Rafi al-Issawi became Finance Minister

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat that is the big doggggggggggggggggg

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat for tariffs

 duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat Sovereign Ministries Defense Minister (acting) Nouri al-Maliki State of Law Coalition Islamic Dawa Party 2010-12-21 - [2] Finance Minister www.mof.gov.iq Rafi al-Issawi Iraqiyya National Future Gathering 2010-12-21 - [1] Foreign Minister www.mofa.gov.iq Hoshyar Zebari Kurdistan List Kurdistan Democratic Party 2010-12-21 - [1] Interior Minister www.moi.gov.iq (acting) Nouri al-Maliki State of Law Coalition Islamic Dawa Party 2010-12-21 - [2] Oil Minister www.oil.gov.iq Abd al-Karim Luaybi State of Law Coalition independent [2]

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat this is the cabinet that maliki put in place they answer to him

Message patty Z - Neno's Chat [b]they answer to himn over what..everything ot the rv?

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat lol no tarriffs

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat The current Prime Minister of Iraq is Nouri al-Maliki, who holds most of the executive authority and appoints the Council of Ministers, which acts as a cabinet and/or government.

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat not parliment

patty Z - Neno's Chat [b]basically like ours..if they appoint they agree..imo

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat they have squat to do on tarriffs and deals made with kuwait

slj9999 Z - Neno's Chat [b][i]dose he have to have Talabani's final approval duck

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat The current Presidency Council, a transitional replacement for the President of Iraq who serves largely as a figurehead with few powers, is composed of Jalal Talabani, Tariq al-Hashimi, and Adel Abdul Mehdi.

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat fugurehead only

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat here endith the lesson

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat imho the unsc is waiting for the 15th of this month to make there move .. but dont hold me to that .. its just my opinion ..

clines55 Z - Neno's Chat duck, are you kidding or serious? I'm sorry, but I missed the main chat...and I don't see anything in the articles pointing to today's news changing for the good

Alex Z - Neno's Chat [b]we think, never 100% in this game

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat its been sitting in front of yall for two weeks ide say lol

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat and no one reads

duck2000 Z - Neno's Chat .. lol

LATEST CC FRANK26, 12 MAY

Dinar Intel
Yesterday Frank imparted to us that Shabibi spoke for two days in a row Monday and Tuesday. If he talked today, whoa, hold on to your hats. But unfortunately he did not come out today and speak again unfortunately. Would have been great to see him speak for 3 days in a row, but he didn’t.
Frank will read one of his SK’s posts to us;
By Memphis » May 9th, 2012, 6:53 am • [Post 148]
Some thoughts after re-reading several articles from this week…
1) it is clear that Barzani has a grudge against Maliki. His motivations IMO are not to a unified Iraq but a separate state. Talibani is supportive of Maliki and the National Alliance is genuine in their desire to settle matters and "implement" them. I do NOT see Maliki being voted out. His defiance of the "15 day" deadline seems to say something. I believe he has a plan and the louder his detractors YELL, the more expectant I am to actually see the evidence....


2) I suspect that much of the news on the GOI is [largely] meant to draw our attention. Some of the articles are redundant at best and meaningless at worst. Even those with merit often contradict what I believe to be the truth at times. If we then re-direct our eyes towards the CBI, things can be made to L@@K like they are about to do something....big. For a few months now Dr S has been largely silent. It seems that he is currently taking centre stage in matters. Further, it seems that everywhere he goes, he has an entourage' of World Bank 'dignitaries' at his side....why is this? I doubt any of us can properly estimate what is happening at present that we have no clue to...


3) We went for most of 2011 with very little news on the CBI's project. In the past 6 months they have overwhelmed us with news. On this point, why is it that article affer article is released with the language easily understandable with little head scratching required but EVERYTIME they speak of matters related to the 'project' the language suddenly becomes difficult and at times nearly impossible to make sense of? If I were paranoid I would conclude this is done intentionally just to frustrate me... yes it is says Frank.


4) Things are being told to the citizens on TV that show immediacy and they TOLD US they would be doing this just prior to the RV.


5) The UN operation rate of exchange SDR for Iraq is yet to be updated for 2012. This is a huge break in pattern. The 2012 budget is not only NOT published but not even spoken of. This is beyond curious. Frank inserts that it’s not all that unusual for Iraq. Is it the AoP that is delaying this until the GOI grows up? Perhaps… Is there a deadline to meet? Don’t know. Is Maliki feeling pressure and fear of losing his power? Likely.


6) Chapter 7 seems likely to be lifted in June as it has....momentum. [Frank interjects that Chapter 7 can be lifted at any moment. They have already lifted the 3 zeros back in 3rd week of Jan.] Tariffs seems certain to be enforced by July 1st. [Frank inserts that only if they receive Chapter 7]. [Frank says they need to be seated and organized, grown up just the way the AoP wants them to be before they have control of a rate Shabibi holds on to a protects. Then you will see the tarrifs. Otherwise, they are pointless without Chapter 7; without the evidence of Chapter 7’s release. Entering article 8 which mandates they are to use only their own currency. Why do you think all of these nations are placing themselves into position to jump in to Iraq? They know that Iraq is about to walk into Article 8. This is huge for them as investors. This is why we saw the EU sign the contract with Iraq. The EU’s signature is huge. These are international companies with international business; about to deal with a non-international currency???] They are even holding symposiums on the subject now! Iraq is signing big contracts this week, most notably with the EU. They face [daily] many problems that will go "poof" affer the RV....


7) I expect to see the RV not later than the end of June. I will not be easily moved from this conviction. My biggest motivation from today forward will be L@@King for evidence that my current position is wrong. I will be attempting [with all my might] to prove my own opinion wrong. I hope I fail.....

Frank hopes Memphis fails as well. Frank leaves on June 1st to arrive to a place to set things up. God willing we will meet him there very soon. If it turns out that Frank must return to open the office, he will. Frank is prepared to return at a moment’s notice.

Understand, the lifting of the three zeros has qualified them for removing Chapter 7. The AoP doesn’t want to give it to them yet until they get the GOI in order. And that is what Maliki is working on right now. We believe we are going to be surprised next week with some news that Maliki is going to announce about ministers and Allawi’s position and Erbil and many different things.

In the interim it is wise to go about our daily lives as best we can.

Frank thanks Watchman for his post on Frank-Dodd Act; SK’s for all their hard work and input and posts; Mugsbuttons for his respectful ranting and leadership; Iggy and Randy for their posts. 66GTO for helping someone Keep the Faith a little longer. AddcentsPR for his T-shirts. Greenhouse who posted. MarianneTodd for negative and positive, respectful postings. AngelicLove61 – Frank noticed your posted analogy.

Monday Shabibi comes out and he talks. That was a shock. We know what he said as Frank went over this Monday and Tues. night. But then yesterday, not his aid; but Shabibi comes out, the ball being volleyed back to the court side of the CBI; what did Shabibi say yesterday? Anyone remember? He asked the GOI for the report on the study of the lifting of the 3 zeros. Frank went crazy. This was great.

Did he get it? Frank looked for it; something from Shabibi that might have said thank you GOI but today Frank saw something close to it. The Financial Committee submitted a proposal to the CBI and to Shabibi. Really? What was this proposal? They wanted to take the 60 billion to stabilize the IQD. Shabibi says no way Jose. Shabibi says, they don’t need to. Don’t need to? No? Why? What? You think I would tell you that we lifted the three zeros and stabilized it already. What are you silly? Of course not.

Ask me another question. Ok. Why are you not going to take our proposal that we have in our report about the lifting of the three zeros to include 60 billion to stabilize the IQD Shabibi? Because I have already lifted the three zeros and took care of that issue. Don’t worry about it. I got this. Oh ok.

You see family; there is no way we are going to be told these things in the articles. It’s fifty-two pickup. This whole week will likely be chaos until about Monday. You see they should tell us on Sunday but they wait until Monday. It’s interesting. We should learn more Sunday or Monday about the report that Shabibi asked for back from the GOI to give. It seems to be some hint today that he received it. If it’s just a hint then we won’t be told anymore until later and will be disarray until that time.

You see tomorrow is Thursday; they will work. Friday they don’t do anything. Saturday, by the time they get up the day is gone. Sunday it takes so much caffeine to get motivated and they don’t seem to accomplish much on Sundays. So we don’t usually see things until Monday. That’s kind of their pattern says Frank. It’s rather crazy.

Memphis is on the call. He wishes to make clear that he is not precluding that we can’t, won’t or could not see this in May. In fact, we could very well see the RV occur this month, but no later than the end of June.

Memphis is excited about this article that came out from the Finance Committee. He feels with it coming out; he has enough material to have something worthwhile to say. He’s going to do a late night post on this meeting with the Financial Committee. The words he highlighted in orange; look at the time scale. They are not talking about September; they are not talking about 2013. Very good says Frank.

Frank says, some of you think it’s going to come later. But you see, in September is when they are going to introduce the 100 and 200 dinar notes. Why would they introduce new double zeros, when they are trying to get rid of double and triple zeros from your currency? By lifting the rate. They need the rate. July. Tarrifs. They need the rate! They talk about January 2013 to release all the other lower denominations; they had better introduce the rate and have removed all the three zeros form my hands before they introduce the lower denoms. Yes they can coexist for a short period of time; otherwise they will have severe inventory and accounting issues.

Frank says to Memphis that he wants for him to put Memphis’ voice and Frank’s trip and correlate them…as one.

Memphis says he hope’s Frank’s trip is interrupted. Frank says he hopes so too.

Frank says, the kind of things we are seeing right now, never happened in ’04, ’05, ’06, ’07, ’08…

Frank has studied what happened with Kuwait from ’91 – ’99. Frank didn’t know he could buy the Kuwaiti dinar. He thought it was illegal to buy it. The only reason some had it was because they were businessman or soldiers over there who found out about it. Frank says we didn’t have the right to buy it.

Why is it that the President of the US, Jr. who listened to the examples of Sr. during those years, but this time allowed US citizens to participate in this Marshal Plan? You learn from your successes and failures. From ’91 to ’99 we balanced our budget. And now we are how many trillions in deficit but yet our gov’t comes out and says we have a surplus of 58 billion???

Frank says, how many chess pieces have been moved on the chess board to make one say, wait, why did you make that move? None of your business; now make your move.

Edjin comes on the call and speculates on the movements of the dates of the tariff law enactment is moving around, yet moving around and coming closer to our time frame. Frank says, yes his Team has also been speculating on this but didn’t feel it enough to really speak on. But Team feels it is because Talibani is positioning a time for the National Conference and this is probably why we see the movement in the dates of the tariffs coming online. Both of these dates are hovering in the shadows currently and we won’t see them settle until Talibani announces the date. This is Frank’s Team’s opinion.

Frank you say the three zeros have been lifted. Yes. Then why don’t we see the RV. It’s because the AoP are not pleased with what they are seeing in the GOI. That’s why now that the GOI has been requested of CBI; give me the report I requested to approve the lifting of the three zeros. Are we in harmony? Are we in coordination? Are you going to do what that report says? You’re not going to overspend; you’re not going to steal from the budget. You’re not going to ask for more. You’re not going to use other currencies and on and on.

We’ve seen the budget but we haven’t seen the rate released that is in the budget.

The AoP is no longer pleased with their Parliament. They are not under the rule of the British monarchy. They can become a democracy. 

BWM POST, 12 MAY

5-12-2012  Intel Guru BWM   there's a lot of speculation about the date for M's "deadline" and I wasn't going to get into it but so many are throwing the dates around I wanted to cover that... many are saying the 17th based on an article that was released BUT there was also an article stating that it was handed down on saturday before last which would also make Sunday, the 13th as a date also... SO, what does this tell us? Same thing, you CAN'T trust the articles from Iraq for true, complete information. AND, they don't give ACTUAL deadlines, there's always some "wiggle" room somewhere in there plans.

GOODYBOY THOUGHTS POST, 12 MAY


5/11 happy hour..."I don't care how long it takes..."

this is a goodyboy get down and get real commentary...be blessed with grace for continued patience and perseverance...

...we are involved in a volatile, unpredictable intel process...we have just got to keep in mind that this process is almost impossible and at best difficult to assess, analyze and even more tenuous, problematic and precarious when attempting projections and predictions...this is what some do not understand..

.especially those who bash the false alarms of guruian projections over the past year...we only know what we know and the fluidity of this process is fraught with the potential for error...but let's be thankful that we have a dirty dozen or so bunch of gurus with contacts trying to decipher this convoluted dinarian dilemma...
...then, as a bonus for all of us here in our PTR iCommunity, we have Dan, Tony and Gary and an exemplary group of mods, including red lily with the tireless efforts at bringing us all the latest news and published information...do we all really realize what we have here...a heterogeneous and believeable leadership with all the hopium, groundedness and dinarian reality you could ever want...

...look folks, and I am staring into my mirror...its time to hunker down and do our own research, analysis, assessment and decision-making...aka beginning to practice post-RV behaviors...we are going to be thrust into a whole new financial world post-RV and the responsibility for each of us will change dramatically from refreshing the PTR web page and looking for hopium and the latest rumtel to... what the hell do I do now...

....based on a history of the process of international currency RV's (go ahead...google it and research how RV's came down)...this will come like a thief in the night, when we least expect it...stay poised, grounded and stay lit with anticipation...if you have IQD, then you are in the race...this is an endurance race...the race began years ago...I can smell the finish line and I don't care how long it takes me to get there!